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26 WOMEN, ONE NFL PLAYER II MY EXP- EP25 · WHERE REAL STORIES COME TO LIFE.🎙️

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You meet a good-looking man.
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>> Mhm.
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>> He's uh he's nicely
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>> built.
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[laughter]
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[music]
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[laughter]
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>> What up? What up everyone? Colin Shikoli
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once again with my experience podcast
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and uh I'm here with my co-host
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>> Braa
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>> Big Mike. Ah, and uh
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>> Mike
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Big Mike
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everything goes for him. I believe he
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he's he's trying to play cool. He's
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trying to play cool. But anyway, yeah.
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Um your dynamic duo once again on uh
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episode 25, Vibe. Yeah. And um yeah,
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it's been a long way uh coming. And
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today we have uh lots of goodies for you
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guys. And uh
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yeah, not uh not forgetting uh to ask
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you guys once again before we start,
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make sure you you guys check out our
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YouTube page and our social media pages,
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right? All right. Yeah. Um Big Mike.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Uh I want you to wear this shoe. M
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>> you meet a good-look man.
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>> Mhm.
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>> He's uh he's nicely built.
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>> Damn. [laughter]
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>> Oh, my bad. My bad. My bad. Okay.
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>> I'm going to
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>> I'm going to I'm going to scratch it
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again. I'm going to scratch it again.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Uh a lady meets a good-looking man.
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>> Yes.
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>> Or rather, ladies meet a good-looking
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man. He's uh 6'4
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>> or something there about.
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>> He's uh nicely built.
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>> Mhm. And he's living all this expensive
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lifestyle.
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>> And by expensive,
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>> tall, duck, and chocolate.
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>> Oh yeah. Tall, duck, and rich of uh dark
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chocolate.
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>> Everything. Exactly. Everything any
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other lady wants out here.
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>> And um in this case, this guy is living
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the life.
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>> I'm talking about investments. I'm
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talking about real estate. I'm talking
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about big cars. um talking about uh all
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the fancy things and the beach houses
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and the traveling and the and all that
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[ __ ]
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>> And this guy and this lady falls in love
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uh apparently this ladies fall in love
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with this guy
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>> and the guy claims to be a football
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player and he plays for the San
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Francisco 16 uh 49ers.
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>> 69 is my favorite number. So it keeps
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ringing in my head.
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>> 69.
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>> Yeah. Oh, if you know, you know. So,
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this guy
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uh tells the ladies that he plays for
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the
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San Francisco 49ers.
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>> And the ladies, he's he's
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>> and no homo, he's good-looking.
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>> He he he's he he he
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plays this part of a rich football guy.
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>> And uh ladies fall in love with him. And
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not one lady, not two lady, not two
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ladies, not three ladies, but 26 ladies.
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>> Do you think if at all, let's just say
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in in the in your other life,
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>> if you reincarnate and find yourself you
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are a lady, do you think you would fall
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for such a person?
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>> Uh hold on, just hold on to that
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thought. I'm going to answer that
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question. [laughter]
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>> I need to give you the whole context of
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this story.
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>> So this guy
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>> uh manages to bag 26 women.
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with a consistent scheme,
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>> consistent story.
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>> Mhm.
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>> He tells them that he's a he's a
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football player.
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>> Mhm.
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>> He even went to he he's it's it's a
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planned scheme.
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>> Mhm.
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>> He went to an extent of uh recording
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himself training on the training like
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>> so he's a real trait a professional.
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>> Yeah. He's that's how he's um
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>> portraying himself. He's packaged
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himself
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>> on on his social media. But answering
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your question,
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>> I
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it's a yes and no.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Why? Yes. Why? Yes.
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>> If I was a lady.
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>> Um yes. Why? Yes. If I was a lady, this
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guy um
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>> is 6t tall.
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>> Yeah. 6' tall.
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>> Nicely.
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>> Dark chocolate.
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>> Like if you Yeah.
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>> Full of what I'm saying. Anyway, so
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>> he's and not not just that, he also has
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>> money.
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>> Money.
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>> He flashes the money
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>> and he records himself with this with a
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I saw a video of him recording himself
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with a bunch of keys.
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>> And he says, "This is a this is a
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Porsche. It's worth um 10 million. This
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is a Mercedes. I just got it the other
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day. It's worth 17 million. And this is
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so they ends up saying all these cars
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you see here are worth like uh 200 B 200
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million. And uh the ladies see this
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>> and uh he lies the ladies
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>> that uh he's going to he has a a real
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estate um company or something of the
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sort and he wants them to
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>> so that they can invest in him.
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>> Yeah. M
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>> and if if if
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I was a lady
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>> and you tell me that and you actually
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flash more money than the one you're
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asking me to [laughter]
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>> I'm I'm going [clears throat] to try to
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buy into that idea cuz every other every
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other lady wants to date a rich man.
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It's it's it's it's the reality.
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>> So if you are a lady, you'll be like the
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Yes, daddy clocking. [laughter]
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Yeah, I'm not going to lie, bro. I'm not
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going to lie. If I was a lady,
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>> Yeah, that's gay. God damn it. Whatever.
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Hey, whatever you just did is gay as
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[ __ ]
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>> No, let it be. Nowadays, you know,
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everything even if you try even if you
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try to be as straight
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>> as an arrow, there is always something
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that they someone will always find that
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thing just to say that you're gay. So,
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>> that's okay. And it's it's it's it's
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okay to be who you are.
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>> I mean, if you think about it, even just
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watching
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A straight porn is just sounds like gay.
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>> Oh, you you What do you mean?
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>> I mean
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>> you as a man as a straight man.
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>> Oh, watching the other guy do his thing.
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>> Yeah, he's gay as [ __ ]
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>> Anyway, uh we digress.
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>> So, why would you say no? That's you.
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>> So, so I've given I've given you the
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reason why I would say yes because
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there's a lady who said this guy the
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lady gave uh DJ John uh $10,000.
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But on that particular day, the John
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spent more than $20,000 on her
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>> with gifts
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>> and all that [ __ ] And so the lady
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was like,
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>> "This this this looks looks like a a
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lucrative idea."
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>> And the the lady did buy into into it.
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>> So that's me. I I would be that lady
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>> cuz if I look at uh if I look at it from
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this perspective, I gave you $10,000.
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>> But now on this shopping spree we've
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gone
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I bought shoes, I bought necklaces and
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all that [ __ ] And uh if I look at
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the receipt, it's actually more than
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$10,000
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>> which you invested in me.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But you know when you are investing in
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me, the plan was you you were to invest
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in
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>> my company in my real estate company.
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>> No, me let's say let's assume I'm the
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lady. when I was investing with you
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>> the idea that I had was this investment
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is going to be of a future thing of a
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compounding thing maybe and now
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>> the aspect that you have spent on me is
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like I'm I've used my money
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>> so
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>> to enjoy myself without my consent you
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understand what I'm saying
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>> that that's that's actually another idea
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>> and uh to explain it even further uh
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>> this lady
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>> Mhm. M
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>> saw the potential in that whole thing.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Because if if if you've actually spent
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your money, which is
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>> Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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>> So you would buy into that. That's
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that's very good marketing. It's a very
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Why is he getting arrested then if you
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only gave me 10K and I spent 20 on you?
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So this is why he's getting arrested.
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No, I think I think the reason why is
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getting arrested. I was investing in you
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not to buy me something cuz if I had the
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money, I could have gone and bought it
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myself, but I was investing in you so
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that maybe for a future compounding
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system that you sold to me. So, because
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it's a it's a it's um
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it's a real estate company, quote
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unquote, that he has that uh
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he he was born into it.
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>> So, this is old money, old money, quote
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unquote.
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>> So, you just if you want to if you want
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to be like me and if you want to live
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this life I'm living,
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>> you bring your money, invest in my
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company,
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>> which everyone every other big company
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would do. People buy shares.
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>> Mhm. So he got the ladies, but he got
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the reason why the f the federal
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government is arresting him is because
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he it looks like a romance scheme, which
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was a planned romance scheme. He got 26
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ladies doing the same thing. And these
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26 ladies have invested more than
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$10,000. $10,000, I think, is was just
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one of the least amount of money.
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>> Collectively, I think they scammed more
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than 2.6 six something million dollars
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or something.
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>> So this is uh here's a story
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>> uh the John Labra love
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>> 35
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>> his name says it all.
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>> Yeah his name his his name is very
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[laughter]
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>> how much collectively did
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>> were arrested and charred with federal
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Oh three guys.
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>> Mhm. Uh the conspirators Taylor Jamie
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Taylor Jamie Chan were arrested and
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charged with federal federal wire fraud
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and conspiracy.
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>> And you know what what's crazy about the
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the the the the second guy that you read
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his name was
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>> Taylor Jimmy
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>> when they started the guy was 16 years
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old.
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>> That's crazy.
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>> Yeah.
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>> When they started actually 18.
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>> It says 18.
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>> Yeah. Right now he's 18. But when they
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started I think when they started Yeah.
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They started I think it's been two or 3
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years.
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>> So listen
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>> there some years. Yeah.
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>> Uh it says they were caught on uh they
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arrested uh in late August 2006 for
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running an elaborate multi-year scheme.
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So it's just it's not something they
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started the other day.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Multi-year scheme. M
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>> um where love poses a San Franc San
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Francisco 49ers wide receiver and
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wealthy real estate
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>> to defraud at least at least 26 women
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out over out of over $1.3 million US.
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>> So he's accused of him not playing in
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the games for the two years.
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>> Dude, listen. This guy
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had invested in this game this much on
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his birthday.
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He posed with a a cake
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>> with his name with a a 49ers
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uh cake with a jazzy on with his uh
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apparently jazzy number and name.
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>> Mhm.
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>> And he said he's been the 49ers have
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wished him a a happy birthday.
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He even went he even went on uh getting
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discounts from barbers from barber shop
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and uh [laughter]
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asking them to
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>> I think he gave him a haircut for for
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with with marketing whatever and he he
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got a discount he paused as a marketer
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and this
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>> people are taking he's signing pictures
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and
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>> yeah it's not just about the he didn't
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just call
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women alone
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>> he was living the life of a real
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athlete.
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>> Yeah. He lived the life of a and I don't
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know where he was
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cuz there's videos of him where he walks
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into a a showroom, gets a new car,
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expensive car
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>> and just drops off.
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>> But but the showrooms have now come out
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and said that he was giving a good
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money.
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>> Mhm.
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>> And he was renting the the the cars. So
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if I am a business person and you come
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to rent a car from me and I'm there for
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the money. I I won't say no for the
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money. If you're gooding me
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good money and you're taking care of the
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car, I don't have a problem you renting.
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I don't care whatever you are doing. I
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don't know. I don't want to do a
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background check for you to come and
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take my car. All I need is the money. My
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guy my car is in good condition. That's
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all I need.
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>> So here's another question.
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So this is another controversy where uh
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I think people were
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were just curious.
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>> So
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one guy comes and tells you
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hey can we do 50/50?
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>> What do you mean by that?
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>> One guy approaches a lady tries to hit
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on her
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>> and tells her hey can we do 50/50
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>> in terms of relationship?
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>> Yeah. And the lady says hell no. Then
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other another guy comes and tells you uh
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give me your money. I'll help you
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invest.
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>> Yeah, you're helping me invest. Not
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coming in terms of relationship.
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>> So here here's the catch.
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>> Is this one lady trying to be
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I don't want to call it greedy, but is
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she trying to be over ambitious or she's
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just trying to look for a man who he can
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who she can grow with? See for me I feel
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like for example in the age of social
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media
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>> uh for ladies let's say you are an
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influencer and you have uh a chunk of
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good followers on Instagram or something
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on social media if someone's approach
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you
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>> uh with an a public image of such a
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person like an athlete. Yes, you would
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want to hear what he is telling you
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>> and maybe he's not even your type. So
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you might
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want to be with them
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because of the lifestyle they have sold
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you and the investment they have told
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you you can whatever you can gain from
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them. So as for me as a lady I might be
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of uh that I'm not trying to be over
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ambitious but I just want a good future
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for myself in terms of it's not only
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about the relationship but in terms of
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investing.
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>> Mhm.
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>> And wanting to have enough for me for
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the future. So I don't think the ladies
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were wrong.
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So,
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you've asked me about if I would if I
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would buy into into the idea
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>> of meeting this
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>> uh scammer.
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>> I answered it. What's what's what's uh
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what's your answer? Would you buy into
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it? And tell me why you would buy into
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it and why you would not buy into it.
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>> Okay. Let let me let me just say
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something cuz I feel like
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>> stretch. I'm not using my full potential
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as a man. I feel like I'm not using my
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full potential as a man.
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>> Honestly, that how he feels.
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>> You know why?
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>> You know why? Because as men, we have
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always been looked at as liars.
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>> So already I feel like I'm not using my
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lying skills to my full potential. Cuz
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if I don't, let's just say I'm I'm not a
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liar, but let's just say men lie. Let's
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just say men lie. If my lies are not
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bringing money, bro, as an athlete,
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>> just
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>> you you bro, you
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>> you know the difference between me and
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>> do you know do you know what I mean? As
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an athlete,
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>> the difference between me and uh Dian
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love is just because
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>> you are not maximizing your potential. I
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I
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>> and you have the access to the club.
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You're not even acting,
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>> bro. Right now, we will be clocking for
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you on Ys. [laughter]
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Just clocking for you on Ys. Bro, I I
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feel like first of all, as a friend,
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when I heard the when I saw the story, I
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was like, damn,
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>> my brother is not maximizing his full
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potential. I was like, damn. So now I'm
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working and this is what we can do.
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>> I need to start flexing.
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>> I'm ready to be a PA, bro.
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>> And pause us that. Uh
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>> I'll strategize.
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>> Social media manager present.
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>> I [laughter] got you guys. I got you
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guys. But we we we need to but we need
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the money to display the opulence.
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>> We need the money.
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>> Yeah, we need the money to to to go and
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rent a nice Mercedes.
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>> Now we can save
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>> to go and rent a nice Porsche. So let's
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let's sit down and create. You know,
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this is a scheme. It's not just
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something you wake up one morning and
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decides to do.
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>> And that's why he started a couple of
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years ago.
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>> So you guys, you start small. You get
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small me. [laughter]
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>> You start help me help me pay my gym
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membership fast.
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>> No, no, no. That's [laughter] a lie.
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>> You becoming your own partners. But but
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you know you know what what I really
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that what was funny about the the uh the
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red flag that I saw that the management
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did do well
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>> was when he went to sign for the
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contract of for
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>> Oh yeah they're like oh big boy what are
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you doing I'm signing the contract I'm
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signing a contract how much how serious
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and signing the papers
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>> he's actually signing the papers
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>> but let's just take let's just say take
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yourself in Dian's fruit uh
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What would you have done better for you
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not to get caught?
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>> Um,
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again he he did uh I think he did
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everything very smart but uh every every
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other journey has a has a destination.
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>> Yeah. So he his journey
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>> that was the destination. No, just just
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looking from outside in
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>> from from the outside looking
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>> just to prolong the at least prolong the
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scam to get more money.
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>> I I don't think this the scam was going
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to last much
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>> because uh uh these ladies were now
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coming out
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>> and posting screenshots.
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>> I think that's why you need me as your
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PA. So I I think I think those are those
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are those are those that [laughter] was
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a journey that that actually had reached
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its destination.
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>> See
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>> but now we have a blueprint.
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>> See you that's why
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>> that's why anyway according to me from
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the outside looking in I think that that
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was that was the end of it man I don't
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think so you you are an athlete don't
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worry I'll manage you. Let me tell you
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something now. So for me
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>> to prolong this uh scam for us to get a
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good money you know there are some
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people who started as scammers.
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>> Mhm.
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>> There are so many people who are started
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as scammers.
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>> Looks like you know a couple of them
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there.
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>> But right now where they are you can't
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even say they are scammers. Why? Because
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they manage themselves. Well so what I
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would do
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>> can you can you put some names to maybe
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so I can get the context.
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>> No the ones that I can put are back at
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home. So
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>> it's fine.
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>> The sharp boys.
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>> Let's go.
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We have the the the lawyer guy alleged
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the the alleged the alleged lawyer guy
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>> cuz you know I'm I'm also about to buy
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Lamborghini Urus.
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>> Yeah. No very soon.
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>> But I told you that's why
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>> I see it's it's becoming a theme.
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Everyone is buying it. So I think it's
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that easy.
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>> Yeah. What do you think?
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>> If if you have me as your manager
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automatically it won't even last you and
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you start with no problem. I'll manage
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you.
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>> What's the catch? Tell me. So the catch
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is what would you have done better?
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>> What would I I would have done better as
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the manager first
20:12
as the [ __ ] already employed himself.
20:15
>> So what I could have done is make sure
20:18
that in in as much as I want to use this
20:21
the the money that the women are giving
20:23
me to invest in at least I would put it
20:26
somewhere where at least I I can get the
20:29
money to pay them back when the money
20:32
that I have is compounded. That's a nice
20:34
idea where when they want their money,
20:37
you it's like using their money to
20:39
invest, you get the interest on top and
20:41
you start paying them.
20:42
>> The whole point the whole point was to
20:44
to rob you 100%.
20:46
>> No, that's why I'm telling you me now as
20:48
the PA what I could have done.
20:50
>> You return the money.
20:51
>> No, I'm not returning the money.
20:54
Building a new script.
20:55
>> We are building a new script. Yeah. WHAT
20:57
DID HE WRONG?
20:59
>> LISTEN TO ME. YOU STAY IN THE SHOES THAT
21:01
HAS THAT point was to steal. No, no, no,
21:04
no, no, no. That's where you get it
21:06
wrong.
21:07
>> The logistics.
21:07
>> That's where you get it wrong.
21:09
>> Listen to your manager, please.
21:10
>> Yeah, that's where you get
21:13
>> Oh, and just pause. Hold on to that
21:15
thought.
21:15
>> If you guys are watching and you're
21:17
wondering what are these guys, what are
21:20
these guys wearing?
21:21
>> This uh our new match.
21:25
>> It's very limited. You can't find it
21:28
anywhere in the world apart from uh with
21:31
uh my experienced team. Let's um Ke, let
21:34
me let me let me let let me show them
21:35
the back. This is this is how the back
21:38
looks
21:42
and this is how the front looks. We have
21:44
only 10 pieces. So, uh let us know in
21:48
the in the in the in the DMs if you if
21:50
it's something you can rock. if you if
21:52
you think we look nice in them and if if
21:54
you want to look look nice in them too
21:56
and you want to support uh this
21:58
>> let's go back to the money
21:59
>> up and coming [laughter]
22:00
uh podcast
22:02
>> back to you in studio Mike
22:03
>> so for me I've told you I could have
22:05
found ways I I mean better ways in which
22:10
I could have invested in with uh the
22:12
money that I was being given
22:14
>> to compound more
22:16
>> so that when they come to ask me for
22:18
their money remember
22:20
>> I don't think if they were some
22:22
contracts that were signed that I'm
22:23
giving you this money
22:26
for you to do for me this. They were
22:28
giving me this money maybe through cash.
22:30
If there were no contracts, I can say
22:32
>> what if there contracts
22:35
>> this is this is this is big money. We're
22:36
not talking $100. We're talking
22:38
$100,000.
22:40
>> Remember who is giving also she's in
22:41
love.
22:41
>> Yeah.
22:42
>> And and that's a very that that was a
22:44
very smart smart move too.
22:46
>> Mhm.
22:47
>> Very smart. I I I put you in a corner
22:50
where you get emotional,
22:52
>> then I I hit.
22:53
>> Mhm.
22:53
>> Yeah.
22:54
>> So that's why I'm telling you for for
22:56
the the the the ladies that were scammed
22:59
and did not sign any contracts, it's
23:01
different.
23:03
>> I'm curious. I'm curious. Cuz cuz look
23:06
look if if at all we are starting to
23:08
invest in something as a good manager
23:11
that I I want to be I would want this
23:13
thing to come to benefit us not to to
23:16
make it a limited thing that will come
23:17
and end us.
23:18
>> But but how many how many thieves think
23:20
like you can you think about that?
23:21
>> There are a lot of thieves outside that
23:23
thinks like me.
23:25
There are a lot of people. The fact that
23:28
we don't know them
23:29
>> then then that's that's not even that's
23:30
not even that's not even a scam, right?
23:33
That's a that's a legit business.
23:34
>> Yes, it's a business. It's a a legit
23:36
business.
23:36
>> Then why don't you just start a
23:38
business?
23:38
>> You're going to start the reason why
23:40
Mike is giving
23:41
>> you don't have the resources. Sometimes
23:43
maybe you don't have the resource to
23:45
start the business.
23:46
>> Mike is not giving back the money
23:48
because at one two three Mike is giving
23:51
back the money as a silence power.
23:53
>> Yeah. And to legitimize this thing.
23:56
>> Yes. It's like a drug business. You
23:58
know, you know, you you guys definitely
24:00
want you guys definitely want to set up
24:02
that guy. You know why?
24:03
>> No, you are not setting him up. Listen,
24:05
we're not setting this ladies this
24:07
ladies are falling in love.
24:09
>> No, put love aside.
24:11
>> It's not just one lady, two ladies,
24:13
three ladies. It's 26 fing ladies. How
24:16
how how are you going how you going to
24:18
stop these five ladies giving me money
24:20
in the first place? Listen, listen,
24:21
listen, listen.
24:23
>> And it's something very
24:25
>> Do you think do you think let's say
24:27
let's just take for an example if we
24:29
agree hypothetically if we agree that
24:32
Shikoli as you as the athlete that we
24:35
know you are going to be the face of
24:37
this camp?
24:37
>> Mhm.
24:38
>> Do you think I can I cannot manage 26
24:41
women
24:44
>> that gave me invested [laughter] in
24:47
Listen. No, no, no. Let me just explain.
24:49
No, no, no, no, no. Let let me explain.
24:52
You want toress it?
24:53
>> No. Let me explain to you in terms of
24:56
let me say, you know,
24:58
>> Jesus Christ.
24:59
>> As a manager,
25:00
>> you said you can manage six ladies and
25:02
as a manager, as a manager, it's my
25:05
responsibility.
25:07
No, let me just finish. Let me just
25:09
finish.
25:09
>> If you must be a thief to be that
25:11
manager.
25:12
>> Of course, I'm a thief. For us to come
25:14
[laughter]
25:15
Of course, I'm a thief. for us to come
25:17
and say that we are starting a scam. Who
25:19
am I?
25:19
>> A thief.
25:20
>> A thief. Of course, I'm a thief.
25:22
>> Jesus Christ.
25:23
>> So, I don't think this is my idea idea.
25:27
>> No, just listen to me. I know you are
25:28
not buying because you you are an
25:30
athlete. I'm the person that is going to
25:32
manage you. So, let's say for example,
25:36
we start we plan and start an investment
25:38
as coming.
25:40
So, we say that our target you you are
25:43
going to be the athlete. We are going to
25:46
get money from these women.
25:47
>> Mhm. [clears throat]
25:48
>> What are we doing with this money? What
25:50
are the investments that we can do so
25:55
that when they come to ask for their
25:57
money? We can even defend ourselves.
25:59
There are so many people there are so
26:01
many stories that I've heard where
26:02
people women were conned. People were
26:04
conned money. But let me just finish.
26:06
Let me just finish what I'm saying.
26:08
People were conned. But these people
26:10
went and invest so much in whatever they
26:14
are doing that they got like 100 times
26:17
the money. So that when even you go
26:21
in terms of law you can win you can't
26:23
win them.
26:24
>> I think I think Mike Mike is living an
26:27
illusion
26:28
>> and THAT THAT'S A REALITY THAT'S A
26:30
REALITY of what is happening.
26:32
>> That's an illusion. Mike is talking on
26:33
>> that's just being a smart thing.
26:35
>> That's no that's an illusion. That's a
26:37
>> that's just as per me. Can you allow me
26:39
to tell you why that's an illusion?
26:40
>> Okay. Yeah.
26:41
>> That's a that's a a thief or rather a
26:44
fraudster living an an illusion.
26:46
>> Mhm.
26:48
>> Tell me how many fraudsters think like
26:50
you,
26:51
>> bro. They
26:52
>> Tell me how many how many fraudsters
26:54
think like that? Fraudsters live for
26:56
>> fraudsters
26:58
>> and and and and and anyone committing
27:00
crime and all that [ __ ] These guys
27:02
live for the moment. And that's why
27:04
>> they will flash the fancy things.
27:07
They'll flash a bag of of of of millions
27:09
of dollars for you for you to see. They
27:12
want you to buy into the idea. Well, the
27:14
moment you buy into the idea,
27:16
>> then you they have you.
27:18
>> Mhm.
27:19
>> And that's why this guy was very smart.
27:22
He went for the ladies.
27:24
>> Yes.
27:24
>> And he knew he was good-looking.
27:25
>> Mhm.
27:26
>> And he knew
27:27
>> Mhm.
27:28
>> he's he's quote unquote what the ladies
27:31
want.
27:32
>> Every scam has a target.
27:34
>> Yeah. Every target, right? Mhm.
27:37
>> But anyway,
27:38
ladies,
27:41
please, please, please, please. Oh,
27:43
that's the camera. Ladies, please give
27:46
these other broke boys a chance.
27:49
>> No, broke boys don't deserve no
27:52
[laughter]
27:54
broke boys don't deserve no return
27:57
investment. Bro, [laughter] what I'm
28:00
telling you right now, I think what
28:02
you're saying, you know, everybody has
28:04
his own opinions, right? And for me, for
28:08
what I've seen, there are so many
28:10
stories that I've heard of [snorts]
28:12
people that have made money out of scams
28:14
and they are now big people. Let's talk
28:17
about the story of uh the the Indian
28:20
family of which wanted to grab our
28:23
airport in in in in
28:25
Kenya. Not even that they have another
28:28
separate
28:30
company that was even banned in the US.
28:33
If you read the story of how they
28:35
started, the whole company is a scam
28:37
thing. But there is nowhere in this
28:39
world where you will go and win win
28:42
against them.
28:43
>> Mike, that's what I'm saying. You see
28:45
that?
28:46
>> So if you want to be a scammer, you must
28:48
be smart.
28:49
>> If you see with that idea, just get
28:52
money and and start legit business. What
28:54
if I can't I can't find the money?
28:56
>> That's the smartest.
28:57
>> If you want if you want to get the idea
28:59
of Dejon was getting quick money.
29:01
>> Yeah.
29:02
>> And let me let me tell you something. If
29:04
[clears throat] if if there is a time
29:05
where I've realized that it's easy to
29:08
scam people is right now.
29:10
>> Is right now. Do you know why?
29:12
>> You tell me.
29:13
>> Look [clears throat] at the uh e economy
29:15
right now. Everyone is desperate. The
29:17
good environment to scam people is when
29:19
they are desperate and they need it. Not
29:20
not I I wouldn't say everyone is
29:22
desperate.
29:24
>> For you to invest in someone whom you
29:26
don't know well
29:28
>> and you don't maybe you don't even sign
29:29
contract and you just give them 10k just
29:31
because I know you you are my boyfriend.
29:33
No,
29:34
>> I know that's
29:35
>> that's being desperate.
29:35
>> That's a that's a that's a
29:39
>> that's a that's a I think that's a
29:42
that's a that's a very uh long topic. If
29:44
we decide to to get honestly to the to
29:47
the to the to the end of it, I don't
29:50
think we're going to finish.
29:50
>> So So you watch what's your conclusion?
29:52
>> My conclusion is ladies, give this
29:55
brokers a chance, man. Find someone.
29:57
>> Boys don't deserve no [ __ ]
29:58
>> I know. That's right. [laughter]
30:01
>> So my conclusion will be
30:05
in this life
30:06
>> no balance.
30:08
>> Everybody has to fulfill his purpose. If
30:11
you have a strategy to scam people,
30:16
>> if your 40 days are over, you will go.
30:19
>> Yeah. And
30:20
>> after after all, all of us, we there's
30:22
no one who is living out on this world
30:25
alive.
30:25
>> As you as you as you as you do that,
30:27
just remember every as I said in the
30:29
beginning of the episode,
30:30
>> every journey
30:31
>> has an end.
30:32
>> Has a destiny.
30:33
>> I better enjoy 2 years
30:35
>> as a millionaire
30:36
>> than live for 30 years.
30:37
>> Exactly. That's the whole point. That's
30:39
why I'm telling you you now you just
30:43
answered your own question. You just
30:44
answered your own question. This is fast
30:46
money. You're trying to get rich quick.
30:48
>> Okay. Okay.
30:49
>> Yeah. So when when you come with a plan
30:51
like this to pay again
30:55
that's literally living the law. You
30:58
know that you every do you want to die
31:00
right now
31:01
>> just because you have money? No. I don't
31:03
want to die. The more you get money is
31:05
the more you want to enjoy this money.
31:07
So why don't you be smart and think in a
31:10
better ways to scam people and have
31:12
strategies more than die? You scam
31:15
people to die now. Nobody does that.
31:16
>> Manage me Mike. Now let's switch it up
31:19
not as a sport cuz I I can't play sport
31:22
>> as a big film producer.
31:24
>> Okay. [clears throat]
31:25
>> Let me package you. Let's first let's
31:28
first see your potential. What's your
31:30
potential as Kev right now?
31:32
>> I say I I can [laughter] do things. You
31:35
got you got good [ __ ] right?
31:37
>> You got you got you got a quite full of
31:40
beautiful baddies.
31:42
>> I can say
31:43
>> that's right. Right.
31:44
>> You can say that's right. Okay, let's go
31:46
ahead. So, what can we do? We can still
31:49
go the straight way.
31:51
>> You guys you guys you guys will plan
31:52
you'll plan your your whatever after
31:54
this episode.
31:55
>> Yeah, we I I'll have you guys I'll give
31:57
you guys an office somewhere. You can
31:58
sit down. My conclusion was
32:01
[clears throat]
32:01
>> if if you can prolong if you you can
32:04
find a way to live you can't sleep
32:07
hungry when when let me just quote
32:11
caligraph said
32:19
it's a man eat man society that's fair
32:21
>> anyway moving on swiftly imagine you are
32:25
a dad you leave the house for a couple
32:28
minutes and um to go and get medication
32:31
and groceries and when you come back to
32:33
the house your whole life has changed.
32:35
What am I talking about? I'm talking
32:37
about uh Lindsy Clansancy. Uh the the
32:42
husband left to go get medication and
32:45
groceries, leaving behind the wife and
32:47
um the wife and uh three kids. And when
32:51
he came back, his whole life had uh
32:55
taken a 360
32:57
turn, which is very sad.
33:00
>> What did what did Lucy Clansancy do?
33:02
Lindy Clansancy uh analived three of his
33:08
own.
33:09
kids.
33:11
>> And that's called
33:12
>> Yeah, it's a it's a very it's a very sad
33:15
story to to to talk about, but we'll
33:18
have to we'll have to to put on our big
33:21
boy pants and uh talk about it.
33:23
>> Mhm.
33:23
>> What do you think? You leave the house
33:25
and come back and uh What do you think
33:27
should happen to Lindy Class? Do you do
33:29
you have the background of the story?
33:30
>> Yeah. First of all,
33:31
>> what do you think should happen to her
33:32
first?
33:33
>> What I think should happen to her?
33:37
Uh I think that needs a lot of
33:40
explanation to do first cuz first you
33:43
have to go to the background
33:45
to what was happening cuz that's how US
33:49
works. How that's how the law works for
33:52
me to be in a position to judge him. I
33:54
must have the uh clear
33:59
of what was happening behind the scenes.
34:02
So Lindsy Clancy first she was a mother
34:04
of three right and uh she was suffering
34:09
from postpartum depression.
34:12
So
34:12
>> psychosis
34:13
>> psychosis and uh she was under
34:16
medication
34:17
and uh
34:20
according to what was happening
34:23
me I would say
34:26
to me I wouldn't side with cuz
34:32
it's the the the story is so
34:34
controversial cuz there's also a story
34:38
of when the same situation happened and
34:41
it was a
34:43
But
34:45
other than that, me what I'm I'm so
34:47
worried about is nobody's fight who is
34:51
fighting for the kids.
34:54
And to make the matters worse,
34:57
>> the there's a a lady who made a video
35:00
and said that let's pause fast. Let's
35:03
just think
35:05
as if the kids were I think ceramic
35:07
something.
35:09
You see how that's diabolic?
35:11
>> Let's let's She said uh let's let's
35:14
let's
35:15
>> not look at these kids as as human
35:18
beings. Let's look at them like uh
35:21
>> uh ceramic pots. Expensive ceramic pots.
35:24
>> Yeah.
35:25
>> And
35:27
uh what does he say? So someone walks
35:30
into um someone who has who has
35:32
epilepsy, who's suffering from ep who is
35:35
epileptic, walks into that uh uh store
35:39
with precious ceramic pots and uh
35:43
>> as they're trying to find something to
35:45
get to buy,
35:48
the the the
35:50
epilepsy hits them.
35:53
Then they they fall and break a couple
35:56
of the expensive
35:59
uh ceramic pots and these ports are are
36:03
broken beyond beyond repair.
36:06
Who are you going to blame? I according
36:09
to me I thought
36:13
that was a very good analogy
36:15
but
36:18
not in this situation. Yeah,
36:20
>> it was a very good analogy.
36:22
>> Yeah, for the situation it was so
36:23
irrelevant.
36:24
>> Yeah, I think it was kind of irrelevant.
36:26
>> Yeah, it was so irrelevant
36:27
>> because the remember the people who have
36:30
lost their loved ones, their loved ones
36:32
>> and they might stumble onto this kind of
36:35
analogy
36:36
>> and uh in the beginning you said let's
36:39
not look at them like people. Let's look
36:42
at them at us. But do you think as
36:46
[clears throat] a society
36:48
was it right for everybody has his own
36:51
opinion and the controversy is there are
36:54
people who have come out to defend uh
36:58
lensly side
37:00
there's there's always going to be
37:03
um
37:05
we live in a very in in a in a very
37:12
awkward world I'd say for lack of a
37:13
better M
37:15
>> where if
37:17
you just decide to walk naked today
37:21
>> there are people who support you and
37:23
there are people who who be against you.
37:24
There'll always be two sides of the same
37:26
coin.
37:26
>> Mhm.
37:27
>> So in this case everyone is entitled to
37:30
their own opinion.
37:31
>> Yeah.
37:32
>> But as we are trying to defend your
37:35
opinion
37:38
>> just remember that there's a someone
37:40
somewhere
37:41
>> who's grieving. There's someone who's uh
37:45
the husband. We don't know. We don't
37:46
know what situation
37:48
>> actually Lind's husband is in right now.
37:52
>> We don't know how long it's going to
37:54
take him to come out of this this this
37:56
this hole,
37:59
>> which is a very deep hole. And uh I
38:04
I am going to I'm torn between judging
38:07
the guys who are actually
38:09
siding with Lindsay and the guys who are
38:11
actually against Lindy. I'm torn in
38:13
between. I don't know. I don't know what
38:15
to say. Probably I need to just sit back
38:17
and go through the story once again.
38:20
>> Go through the story once again. But I
38:22
don't think according to me,
38:25
>> I don't think there's anyone who is
38:27
entitled
38:29
>> to an alive anyone else and get away
38:32
with it.
38:33
>> You know what? Whatever the situation,
38:35
no one should be in a position to take
38:37
away life unlive
38:40
of anyone
38:42
and get away with it. People should face
38:44
the law
38:46
and uh
38:48
and just get what they desire
38:50
>> with fairness
38:51
>> with fairness and what they deserve. So
38:53
the controversy uh behind this story is
38:56
that now people are comparing two people
39:00
because there was one of I think someone
39:02
by the name Andrea or something that
39:06
happened last year where [snorts] he was
39:09
a father of three then he killed all the
39:12
three boys. So people are comparing
39:15
these two situation. Do you think they
39:18
are the same? He was suffering from
39:20
mental illness too. The same way Linsley
39:23
was suffering from illness, mental
39:25
illness too, he did the same thing that
39:28
she did. But for him,
39:31
he was straight away judged and thrown
39:36
in whatever the judgment they came
39:38
about. So people are saying why is
39:41
Linsley not getting the same treatment
39:44
and what is that going to do to the
39:46
society? Because now
39:49
>> now if we say that
39:52
if they can be affected the with their
39:56
hormones it means that let's say you you
39:59
put a a gun in the hands of someone like
40:03
that he will he can she she can shoot
40:05
someone then say that she was suffering
40:07
from you know what I mean?
40:09
>> Yeah.
40:11
What [snorts] what I'm what what I'm
40:12
thinking is
40:16
and again right now you remember one of
40:19
our
40:20
when you were just starting this
40:23
>> there's uh one of our episodes that we
40:24
talked about mental health I think I bet
40:26
>> you were here we talked about mental
40:28
health
40:29
>> and um
40:34
in in the defense of everyone suffering
40:36
from uh mental health
40:38
>> that's a very
40:40
>> that's a very dark place to be as a
40:42
person.
40:42
>> Mhm.
40:44
>> It's a very dark dark dark place to be
40:47
as a person. You you need so much
40:50
support.
40:51
>> Mhm. That's [clears throat] true.
40:53
>> You need so much support. And I think
40:54
Lindsay was in that
40:57
dark place. And when you're in this dark
41:00
place, people are saying maybe the
41:02
husband didn't support her to an extent
41:05
that she needed. I I agree. But that's a
41:09
that's a that's a That's a moment that
41:11
needs more than just one person and
41:14
that's a moment that also needs the
41:17
society and the government
41:19
>> and yourself.
41:21
And I think Lindsay missed
41:25
missed either either that that I just
41:29
mentioned. She missed either support of
41:31
the government, she had she missed
41:33
support of the [clears throat]
41:35
of the society or maybe the husband. I
41:38
don't know.
41:39
So in my thinking is uh
41:45
mental health
41:49
for for first of all I'm going to say
41:51
this as we finish up
41:53
>> for Lindsay
42:01
I'm very I'm very sorry to say this but
42:02
I think she's supposed to go to jail for
42:05
for for an aliveing three livesm Mhm.
42:09
>> Three. We don't know who they could be.
42:10
They could be
42:12
future NFL stars,
42:14
>> future American president, future at
42:17
Tony, future judge, future doctor.
42:22
Those are those are three precious lives
42:24
that uh were taken.
42:26
uh and um I think she should be she
42:30
should be she should face the
42:34
whatever she deserves for doing that and
42:37
according to the law of course and uh
42:39
two
42:41
uh before we try to
42:44
before we try to take care of someone
42:46
else. Yeah, let's try and take care of
42:48
ourselves first
42:50
>> and make sure um we're in the right
42:53
place to take care of someone else. And
42:56
this by by someone else I mean could be
42:59
your own kids, could be your own
43:00
husband, could be your own wife,
43:03
>> could be your own family before you try
43:05
to take care of uh anyone else. Take
43:07
care of yourself first. And lastly,
43:12
let's support the ladies too. Let's
43:13
support the ladies. this uh postpartum
43:16
the postpartum depression and postpartum
43:18
psychosis is very real.
43:20
>> If you have a if you have a wife, if you
43:22
have a mother, if you have a sister
43:24
after
43:26
before and after they give birth, be be
43:29
there for them and uh and support them
43:31
all through this process. For me in
43:33
conclusion what I would say is that
43:39
as at now what we know the proceeding
43:43
where the proceedings are at as at now
43:45
it was uh a mistrial so they have to go
43:48
and look onto it again but other than
43:51
that
43:52
>> me the the whole the the problem that I
43:56
had with the whole story was if I put
44:01
let's just assume alleged If allegedly
44:04
he's found not uh to be not guilty, what
44:09
will that portray to the society?
44:13
>> That is my problem. At what point do we
44:19
how will that be portrayed in the in the
44:23
in the society whereby if a woman does
44:26
it,
44:28
she's not the problem. She's treated
44:31
she's treated differently with compared
44:34
to when a man does it.
44:38
>> That is where my problem was with it.
44:39
>> Yeah. It's it's it's it's a very it's a
44:42
very tricky position to stand as a
44:44
society
44:45
>> as a judge, as an attorney.
44:47
>> Mhm. It's a very it's a very it's it's a
44:49
very tricky case because it could be
44:53
the reality is maybe she was in a dark
44:57
place which looks like she was but now
44:59
when we try to compare it with genders
45:01
now it becomes very tricky it becomes
45:03
very very tricky very
45:06
>> I would I'm very curious I'm following
45:08
the case closely and I'm very curious to
45:10
see how it's going to be
45:11
>> and in conclusion in addition to that I
45:14
would say also let's about mental mental
45:18
health in men's too.
45:19
>> Yeah.
45:20
>> I feel like it's easier to to blame the
45:22
guy, but also
45:24
>> Yeah. Exactly.
45:24
>> If you look at it from the outside,
45:26
>> your wife is going through stuff. She's
45:28
home. This is America.
45:30
>> This man has to right now is the bread
45:32
winner.
45:32
>> Yeah. He still has to provide.
45:34
>> So, you know what I mean?
45:35
>> Yeah.
45:35
>> So, he can't be
45:38
around
45:39
>> all the time. You know,
45:41
>> so it's it's a Yeah. Again, see, we have
45:45
to eat.
45:45
>> Mhm. We have to pay the bills. So what
45:48
happens in that in that situation?
45:51
>> Yeah. But again,
45:55
may their soul rest in peace.
45:57
>> Yeah. Those
45:58
>> cuz losing three kids is not also
46:01
>> I hope I also hope the the hubby
46:04
recovers from whatever she's he's going
46:05
through.
46:06
>> Yeah.
46:07
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46:20
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46:23
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