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EP 9 | Grave Mistakes · Tales from Incredible Tales

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  Speaker 1: Back then, you know, when you ride a motorcycle, the
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  Speaker 1: ladies were slanted, right? So while she was passing by,
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  Speaker 1: by the Dari, there's one of she standing there at
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  Speaker 1: the graveyard.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Art.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Ryan. My name is Wayne. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Kyle and this is Tales From Incredible Tales together
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  Speaker 1: with some very special guests. We're taking a look back
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  Speaker 1: at Incredible Tales, a horror anthology that add on channel
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  Speaker 1: five
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  Speaker 1: in 2004 to 2017. We will also be asking them
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  Speaker 1: on their very own scary stories in every episode of
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  Speaker 1: Tales from Incredible Tales. We will explore a different theme
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  Speaker 1: and how it ties to some of the classic incredible
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  Speaker 1: Tales episodes. Now, for this episode, we're looking at stories
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  Speaker 1: that revolve around graves. The episode's theme was inspired by
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  Speaker 1: follow from season one and the suitor from season two
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  Speaker 1: in, follow a young couple drives up to Malaysia on
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  Speaker 1: the way back. The girl spots an old tombstone poking
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  Speaker 1: out from the grass by the side of the road.
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  Speaker 1: When she returns home, she realizes that the owner of
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  Speaker 1: that tombstone has followed her home
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  Speaker 1: in the suitor, a young girl spends the night in
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  Speaker 1: a graveyard on a dare. After returning from the graveyard,
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  Speaker 1: someone starts to stalk her, leaving her gifts and other things.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a secret admirer or is it someone from
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  Speaker 1: the other side
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  Speaker 2: that was entertaining? That was
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  Speaker 1: very entertaining. Yeah, I just got a jump scare or
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  Speaker 1: the follow on. Right. Yeah. You said it is. I
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  Speaker 1: have to look up your jump scares are probably the
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  Speaker 1: reason why people should be watching. Not just listening to them,
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  Speaker 2: but when you watch these episodes it's like, it's so relatable. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because you're like,
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  Speaker 2: this is what you see happening, like, with your friends
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  Speaker 2: or you've done it. Yeah. Your friends on a dare.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you watch it, I think that's why
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  Speaker 2: it resonates very well with the audience.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. And speaking of this, have any one of
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  Speaker 1: you tried to do this? Like the suitor?
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  Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I think I've back in the day
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  Speaker 2: during my teens, I probably be the one who would
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  Speaker 2: dare my friends.
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  Speaker 2: Ok. Or if I'm there, I probably do it in a,
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  Speaker 2: in a group rather than alone or solo. Yeah. What
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  Speaker 2: about you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: I've done it. I've done back in my day. Yeah. But, like, I, I,
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  Speaker 1: it's not nowhere near how stupid, like the character in
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  Speaker 1: the graveyard episode was, like, where she's like, oh, if
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if he's dead I still want him
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  Speaker 1: like it. Nobody. Is that, that dumb. Right? I hope not.
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  Speaker 1: When I was much younger. I, I started with photography
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  Speaker 1: and I started urban exploring. So I visited a lot
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  Speaker 1: of abandoned places. So I would usually go alone. Actually, I,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I will go to abandoned places
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  Speaker 1: and photograph by yourself. Yeah. Wow. For the gram before
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  Speaker 1: there was a gram, right?
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  Speaker 1: Not, not selfie. I just take like nice creepy visuals
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. So I remember this one time where I
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  Speaker 1: went to the tangling Brunei hostel is still around an
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  Speaker 1: abandoned hostel. Yeah. So it, it's right behind orchard road.
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  Speaker 1: So I remember going there and you know, just daring myself.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pretty big place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's surrounded by landed properties and a bit,
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a forest. So, you know, like afternoon
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  Speaker 1: you think that you're OK? You think that you're, you're unbeatable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you're in your, you like teenager, you
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  Speaker 1: feel like you nothing can hurt you. Right. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: of course, Iii I was very loud mouth and a
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  Speaker 1: very loud mouth. Eighties. I was like, there's no such
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  Speaker 1: thing as ghosts
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  Speaker 1: go. Right. Come follow me. I don't. Yeah, back then,
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  Speaker 1: back then. Ok. So the spirit back then not now.
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  Speaker 1: And something did follow me back like something that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: and I've been doing it on the street. So for the,
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  Speaker 1: for that period of time, maybe across 10 months. I've
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  Speaker 1: been going to abandon places, including old with the saying
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  Speaker 1: that there is no such thing as ghost. Even if
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  Speaker 1: there is, I'm not scared.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it's dumb. And then, yeah, the, the,
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  Speaker 1: the peak was when I went to Brunei Hostel and
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  Speaker 1: then something follow me back. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine someone being so stupid.
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  Speaker 2: I think we went quiet because it's like, that's very daring,
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  Speaker 2: very daring.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for speaking up for me because I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see.
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  Speaker 1: I believe we are. We were all young ones, right? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What about you? I know I was an absolute coward.
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  Speaker 1: Absolute coward. I had friends who would go to, I
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  Speaker 1: think back when you know, it was still accessible and
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  Speaker 1: questionably legal of whether you could go into old Changi Hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I had friends would go there all the time and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're smart. Yeah. Well, when you're
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  Speaker 1: a teenager and then you're such a coward, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: but also I
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  Speaker 1: peer pressure was terrible but never terrible enough for me
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  Speaker 1: to go. I'm going to do this. What's the worst
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  Speaker 1: that can happen? I mean, I did urban exploration as well,
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  Speaker 1: but I never stood in the middle of an abandoned
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  Speaker 1: place going follow me home. I'm not scared.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, no, no. Even those during the afternoon
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  Speaker 1: as well were incredibly creepy. And for some reason, there
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  Speaker 1: were a lot of them just off orchard road as
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  Speaker 1: well because I, I, I'm, I'm quite a coward but
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  Speaker 1: even if my friends give me that day and I,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go do it because to me it's not,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have any trouble there. I always
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  Speaker 1: think about what's gonna happen if there's trouble there. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a very difficult time with my parents.
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  Speaker 1: So I rather not. But speaking of those theres that
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  Speaker 1: my friends did went to, I'm pretty sure that as
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  Speaker 1: long as you don't do anything stupid there, like say
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  Speaker 1: out things
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  Speaker 1: or disturb the space, I, I don't think they will
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  Speaker 1: follow you home
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  Speaker 2: or unless you do something that you're unaware of what
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about about, like, you know, maybe there's incense
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  Speaker 2: there and we didn't step on it and sometimes we
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  Speaker 2: are knowing,
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  Speaker 2: invite the spirits. I mean, like, I'm much like you,
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  Speaker 2: I explore quite a bit, but I don't explore with
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  Speaker 2: the intention of going thinking like I'm ghost exploring, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like going from one place to another. But in
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  Speaker 2: terms of there, um
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  Speaker 2: uh in Thailand, they have their version of the Ouija
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  Speaker 2: board and they call it P Toga which is like
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  Speaker 2: ghost and within the glass, you play that here,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't play it, but my mom told me
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  Speaker 1: about it. OK. So
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  Speaker 2: basically, you invite the spirit through a glass. So it's
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  Speaker 2: like if you know the OI J board, right? Basically.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, it's a thai version of the Ouija board. But, um,
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  Speaker 2: you have, you have your letters, t, letters and numbers
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  Speaker 2: and what not and then you put the glass upside
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  Speaker 2: down and then you summon the spirits together with your friends.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I've done. But I've always felt very
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  Speaker 2: uneasy doing it. Have you, have you done it like that?
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  Speaker 1: No, I, I, strangely enough I was told not to
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  Speaker 1: play and that during that, that foolish period, right? I,
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  Speaker 1: I tried to ask someone to play with me but
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  Speaker 1: nobody would play with me. Ok. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: really good that we kind of know each other. Now
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  Speaker 2: if we like we met like together,
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  Speaker 1: come on car because the, because the Chinese has a
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  Speaker 1: version also like similar to the Taiwan where it's just
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  Speaker 1: characters and then you summon them, it's scarier because you
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  Speaker 1: kind of trap it in the glass, like in a sense.
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  Speaker 1: LA Yeah. And how do you release it back?
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  Speaker 1: You ask it to leave, it can refuse you. And
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  Speaker 1: if you don't, if you, if you basically it refuses
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  Speaker 1: to leave, you're done.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you're playing with fire. So it's like, it's
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  Speaker 2: actually quite, it's quite not an ideal way to play
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  Speaker 2: a game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that was when I was much younger
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  Speaker 1: and then I abandoned places also. They serve a different purpose.
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  Speaker 1: So people who practice black magic, they tend to, they
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  Speaker 1: tend to dumb spirits there or evil things. They want, like,
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  Speaker 1: the white liquid thing that you saw is probably a
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  Speaker 1: curse or something that, like something evil that someone has
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  Speaker 1: thrown away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how they dispose of it, like,
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  Speaker 1: because the bill? Oh, really? But wouldn't you, like, if
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  Speaker 1: it's trapped in there, if you threw away the jar,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't it release whatever? That's why they never open it one.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's trapped in there. Right. In, in Malay folklore,
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  Speaker 1: we would usually trap them in glasses and we show
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  Speaker 1: them
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  Speaker 1: in the sea or t stone so that it sinks
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  Speaker 1: all the way down. Nobody can ever find it because
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it might float up and somebody else might find it,
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  Speaker 1: open it up and that's it. Speaking of abandoned places
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  Speaker 1: like graveyards, like these kind of places. So we saw
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  Speaker 1: that info serene, you know, she tried to mess around
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  Speaker 1: with
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  Speaker 1: the tombstones. So have you heard of any other superstitions
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  Speaker 1: around tombstones, graves, cemeteries or even abandoned places?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the superstitions. But like for me, overall,
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  Speaker 2: like just cemeteries, overall, whatever religion it is, it's like
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  Speaker 2: it's a sacred place. So I think going back to
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  Speaker 2: some of the questions you've asked me in like the
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  Speaker 2: past episode, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: um memorable places or haunted places that I feel. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I always feel when we were at cemeteries, there are
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  Speaker 2: places that we were invading their space, you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: coming into their space and especially when we shot at night.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because it's like,
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  Speaker 2: um, I would, I would feel very uneasy and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure the crew would feel uneasy too. That's when I
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  Speaker 2: was telling on the previous episode about, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when we do prayers and we do our own thing.
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  Speaker 2: But I think with the cemeteries, that's when, like, you
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  Speaker 2: could see that we're more invested with the prayers
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  Speaker 2: because we're moving into a space that is legitimately their space. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So there are places that I feel you have spirits
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  Speaker 2: and energies running and I have always felt uneasy being
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  Speaker 2: cemeteries for shooting. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, so, so when you were shooting the hosting links,
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  Speaker 1: you actually shot in the cemetery as well.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yes. Yes. Many
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  Speaker 2: different types of cemeteries mostly in Singapore. Um The re
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  Speaker 2: reenactments in Singapore and Singapore. Yes, we semey. Do you remember?
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  Speaker 2: Um there were several, there's, we were discussing how you
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  Speaker 2: would ride at night. That road that right? There is
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  Speaker 2: a funeral. There, there's a cemetery, not funeral. There's um
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  Speaker 2: there's a couple of them, a couple of them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a Chinese temple. So we shot, there are ones
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  Speaker 2: that are closer in the city. What
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  Speaker 1: about Bukit Brown?
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  Speaker 2: Where is that exactly?
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  Speaker 1: It's nearer to the city.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure we have is
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  Speaker 1: a very, very old cemetery of more than 100 years old. My,
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  Speaker 1: my colleagues went there for like a small show for
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  Speaker 1: our station
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  Speaker 1: and they brought the, the MFF. And there were readings there. Really. We,
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  Speaker 1: like
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  Speaker 1: they did it but they didn't mess around with it.
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  Speaker 1: So they left but Buket wrong, got a lot of pot,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Right. Maybe that's why the, the Brown is
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  Speaker 1: famous for Pontianak. So the trees, right are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that house the Pontianak.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, cemeteries in general in general,
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  Speaker 1: but Bukit Brown is a very old cemetery. Very, very old.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the pioneers of Singapore are buried there. So
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  Speaker 1: you can imagine how old it is. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: there's someone living there
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  Speaker 1: cr I believe so. Yeah. Cr I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 1: they live there, but I know that they spend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time being there in the cemetery and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like for someone to work in that line you
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  Speaker 1: got to be somewhat like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. You have to be somewhat, you know, intune
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  Speaker 2: with the energies so that it doesn't affect you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I,
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  Speaker 2: I would say Semey for me are,
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  Speaker 2: um, they're quite haunted for me, you know, because a
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  Speaker 2: lot of spirits are like running around and everything. So
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  Speaker 2: I would never take up that dare and I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: want to dare a friend. I mean, like it goes
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  Speaker 2: back to when you were left in the cemetery and
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  Speaker 2: you have to run that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: What cemetery was that by the way?
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  Speaker 1: So the cemetery in question is basically to cemetery. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that one, I feel like, not as creepy, I
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  Speaker 1: honestly feel really. Yeah, because he's new ish. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: is huge. Right. Yeah. Actually there's one part of the
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  Speaker 1: cemetery is abandoned. Have you heard of an abandoned cemetery? So,
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  Speaker 1: it's further down of the newest section. There's one right
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  Speaker 1: is overgrown
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  Speaker 1: and it's blocked off and it's nearer to the live
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  Speaker 1: firing area because we have, like, the army area is
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  Speaker 1: nearer to, that is even further is up. The hill
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  Speaker 1: is very, very old. I've been in, once I went in.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, you don't go back. Wait. So
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  Speaker 1: it's as in there, no graves. There are graves, there
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  Speaker 1: are graves. But so maybe the graves are like, maybe
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  Speaker 1: buried in the seventies or something. Very, very old because
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  Speaker 1: they go by year. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, that's, that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty anybody
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  Speaker 1: know why that section is. I think maybe like the
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  Speaker 1: lineage is off. Nobody go and claim so. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: that's how it works. I like if you don't claim
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  Speaker 1: the grace for like a set, like the government will
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  Speaker 1: just take it out and then you will settle it themselves. Actually.
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  Speaker 1: Singapore has a couple of Semes. Right. Brown is one.
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  Speaker 1: Church is one, there's also one in the city, a couple. Actually, I,
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  Speaker 1: I remember a long upper swing road. I guess there
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  Speaker 1: used to be an old one called the Beter Diary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which has now been turned into a house, the
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  Speaker 1: whole neighborhood full of neighborhood now really means ferry. Right? Yes. Ok. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember at one point it was just turned into
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  Speaker 1: a park. So it was just like people be running
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  Speaker 1: there and everything
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  Speaker 1: and which the MRT was not working for. Really? Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 1: so they skipped
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  Speaker 2: it or they skipped,
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  Speaker 1: it was built already. It just, they just skip because
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  Speaker 1: nobody's there is, it is a massive park that was
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  Speaker 1: later for building house. That's right. The reason I know
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  Speaker 1: so much is because I saw a documentary there. Of course, you,
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  Speaker 1: it was just more like just for school thing. But but,
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  Speaker 1: but II I walked around, it's really peaceful but you
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  Speaker 1: feel a bit creepy, a bit creepy when you're there
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  Speaker 1: because it's still, you know that it used to be
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  Speaker 1: a massive cemetery and they have two sections, a Muslim
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  Speaker 1: section and I think a Christian section, this big of land.
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  Speaker 1: And then behind that there was a, there was a
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  Speaker 1: Columbarium that's right beside it. It's a very popular place
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  Speaker 1: among the oldies because they usually tell stories from there.
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  Speaker 1: My mom says that when she was pregnant with my
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  Speaker 1: brother and back then, you know, when you ride a motorcycle,
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  Speaker 1: the ladies were slanted, right? So while she was passing
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  Speaker 1: by by the da, there's one
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  Speaker 1: of standing there at the graveyard. Why, why, why she
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  Speaker 1: must pass by that road? Dangerous? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Actually a good question
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  Speaker 1: with your father. That's right. Yeah. But the thing didn't
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  Speaker 1: disturb her, it's just that she was there but it's there. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there space? You see and is quite
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  Speaker 1: near to town. It's not very far. It's near Serangoon
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  Speaker 1: and bottom area. So,
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  Speaker 1: yeah, when the M RT wasn't open, there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of rumors I've heard from my friends say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's because it's haunted. That's why they skip the station.
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  Speaker 1: They were not supposed to be anybody there, but then
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  Speaker 1: there were, there were people waiting there. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely confirm me cemetery and you're essentially digging a
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  Speaker 1: tunnel through all my,
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  Speaker 1: just slightly above the grain where it would be, right?
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  Speaker 1: But that, that actually that's what's happening for Mount Pleasant Road.
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  Speaker 1: There's a, there's another MRT, I think it is Buket Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Buket Brown, Mr T. So it's not part of the
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  Speaker 1: new Circle line, right? It's also not open yet,
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  Speaker 1: right?
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  Speaker 1: I remember my favorite story and I'm quite sure this
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  Speaker 1: one wasn't real because everybody who told it seemed, it
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  Speaker 1: seemed too obvious to be real that when the train
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  Speaker 1: would go past that station that nobody was using,
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  Speaker 1: you could see into the station. If you, if you looked,
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  Speaker 1: you could see and there will be people waiting in
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  Speaker 1: the station. Oh my God. Yeah. Which, which one is it?
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  Speaker 1: The one that's in? Oh my God. That's creepy. The
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  Speaker 1: funny thing I remember, I heard different things about. I
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  Speaker 1: heard that people found it very peaceful. It is like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people used to go jogging through that cemetery and that's
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  Speaker 1: something that's the only time I've heard of people going
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: jogging through cemetery. So when they turned it into a park,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, the same people who are jogging
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: before are still jogging there now. Yeah, but we mentioned
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: this before that there are places in Singapore that were
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: once a cemetery and then turned into a building, a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: housing estate like mine previously. So now that I know,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: so it's like, ok, what about the future? I think
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the future generations will be talking about it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: once they grew up there, they experience some things and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: they find out they found out that that place used
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to be a cemetery, then you would change the whole
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: entire perspective. I think it's just just accepting that Singapore
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: is like that. I feel like I, I think I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: like to believe that even the spirits they know they're like, yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you guys are lack of land. We're gonna be. There's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: no place to be. That's true. Yeah, the place that
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I'm staying right now used to be a cemetery as well. Yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not surprised like, yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: so back to the cemetery thing. So I think I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know, as you go to cemeteries, try
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: not to do anything that might disturb spirits and all that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Um Even in Malay folklore, we have to give our
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: blessings first before we step in. It's like, because the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: spirits are there. If you don't give your blessings, the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: spirits you might just bump into them. Right. That is a,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that's trouble. Yeah, that's one. And then, you know, we, uh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it's ok to go at night.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: It's just that you have to give your best things
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and you have to keep your mouth shut. You quiet,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: don't say anything. If you see anything, smell anything, whatever
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it is quite, quite Singaporeans most like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It's like your friends but shut up.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyone who wants to go to the cemetery,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: please take note.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: It's quiet for a reason.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Is that, is that like a thing like in, like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: in Thailand? Um we don't have cemeteries because with um
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: with it being predominantly Buddhism. So it's like it's, we cremate.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting as we're talking about cemeteries because I was,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that was running in my head too because we don't really,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and Thailand has a lot of land. So it's like
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: if we were to do cemeteries. But I think the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: cemeteries that we do have are of um
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: because Thailand is predominantly Chinese. So it's like, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: for the Chinese because like I'm part Chinese. So a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: lot of my ancestors are like, they have tombs like
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in my mom's hometown. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: just, when I just came back from Vietnam for holiday
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and one of them, one of the things that they
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: told us is that for their ancestors, like their grandparents
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: who passed away, they will bury their body
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: at the, at the back. Oh my God. Yeah. And then,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you know, that's the party feels right and then they
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: will bury the body in the middle of the party fields.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. So when we were passing by, I
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: can actually see the tombstones and the gray in the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: middle of the field that belongs to them and their
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: future Children will have to, you know, harvest party around,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: around them. What's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the reason? Because they say that if the land belongs
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to you, then you should be.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But just that just that like there's no like religious
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: like reason I believe not to. I don't think so.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So it's funny because I was passing by some of
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the even shops like those mini houses. That's a grave
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like a tombstone right beside the balcony. Wow. Like imagine
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: going out of your house and seeing
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a tombstone. So imagine being a buyer and taking over
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the property. So it's like you don't only get the property,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you get the people who were there before you.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: That that's creepy. So the tomb is it like Chinese?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: They mainly if I'm not wrong, mostly Buddhist. The great
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: style is Chinese LA. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, like Singapore,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like because the way they do it right. It's pretty
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: long too. So I think the body itself is there.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's what you get if you
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have a lot of land. Right? So you can bury
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: your ancestors in the middle of the rice paddies.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Imagine if that applies here in HDB flats. I'm, like, downstairs.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like that stereotypical idea of, like all
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: those rich old families in the west who have, like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: their family graveyard behind. Yeah. But I feel like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Like in the U they, some of them, they do
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: bury on their own land but their lands are huge
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of land and I think they designate a certain area
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: rather than this randomly
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: middle of a need, right?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: They have the, that's interesting. I didn't know about it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing. Yeah. Yeah, because it struck me. It's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: totally different because like, what you say when you were in,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: when I was in Thailand, it's totally, you don't really
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: see a lot of graveyards and then suddenly in Vietnam
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: is like here and then there and then behind you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and then right in front of you, it's like they
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: live together with the experience, which is interesting. You don't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: see it but you,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you feel it. So when I was back in my
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: mom's village, right, she did tell me behind the, this
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: massive Buddhist temple is where they burn, the bodies never
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: go there because you want me like, I know you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: horror
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because my dad offered a one at night we take
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the scooter, we go and see where they burn and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: she's like, no, no, don't bring him there. It's like
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that place is haunted because that's where they burn.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Every, every temple in Thailand you'll see, like the huge
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: pillar and that's where all the bodies get cremated. Yeah. So,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I guess, like, the temples in Thailand are probably the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: cemeteries that, you know, we see because, like, a lot
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of families, they have their,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: their loved ones cremated and then they would do a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: tombstone on the temple grounds. But that's more traditional. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: think nowadays what they do is they just release the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: ashes in the oceans.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yes. So they have a niche, right? Like a niche
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: for the, yeah, my family has that as well. So,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in the church that they go to, like, it's almost
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: like a family reunion because they've planned it out. So that, like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: all this family is over here. But right next to
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: them that's, that's their uncle and over here.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah. So before they pass on they always have
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: these conversations, like, oh, who am I going to be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: roommates with Indonesia? Like,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you guys are really morbid about this. But it's also adorable.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: like neighbors. Yeah, exactly.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Like in Taiwan. Like, I read, like, in Taiwan they
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: actually speculate in the niche so the prices will go up.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So they have, like, they have, like, sales agents. They
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: say you buy this, right? You can interchange like you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: could give it to your next generation or something. Or
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: maybe the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: will go out. There's speculation because Feng Shui. Right. Oh, yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That's what my, my mom did to my grandfather after my,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: when my grandmother passed away, she, she's changed locations and
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: since she had to pay for a different spot so
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: that their house together now and then now that spot
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that my grandpa was um, was previously in, is now, um,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you know, available. I see.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Right. So, with respect to different religion, if let's say
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you go to a columb? Yeah. Is it the same
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: kind of advice not to speak
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: anything or I can speak for everyone that like, respect
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: is universal, right? Generally you try to respect the day
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: no matter what really, you just don't anyhow talk. I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just keep quiet. Like what I was advised was to,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: even if you go to like a place that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it is holy or like a place that is for mourning.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Just keep your, that's right. Your thoughts clean. Just don't
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: think about anything. Just keep quiet. Yeah, that's a good
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: advice because just have to touch on cemeteries because in
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Malay folk law, cemeteries are not just for people who are,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you know, to rest but they are dark magics use
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and practice over there. Oh, really? So, you know, if
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you watch all these Malay scary films, they usually dig
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: up bodies, some parts of the body bones or whatever
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for their rituals. Hence it becomes a center for anything creepy.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And I heard like sometimes they have battle,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like they battle each other black magic versus black man
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in cemeteries or in like forest, right? They practice, then
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: they fight each other. I've heard about it in forest.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Not so much in cemeteries, but yeah. Yeah, but that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: where they get the things because I seen, I seen,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think it is in Singapore. I've seen a Tik Tok.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: They show someone who practice black magic. They actually go
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to the cemetery, they dig up the dirt from the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: cemetery to put a curse on someone.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: The specific, I don't know how they do it. My
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: uncle just went to the cemetery to visit a relative
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that passed away. He found a yellow cloth being tied
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to a corner of this person's graveyard.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And in Malay folklore, yellow cloth, it's usually tied to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: black magic. Oh OK. Yeah. So that person might want
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to use this person's grave as who their ritual. But
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: even though the person may not be related, but because
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: it's black magic, right? I need just a graveyard or
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: something from the body. So it doesn't even have to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: be somebody from the family of the doesn't have to.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: This is a question for everyone. What would the engraving
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: on your tombstone
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: say, live at peace and moving on? Wow,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that's a good one.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Really? I mean, no, no, no, I'm thinking about mine
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking at you. Mine is like super trolly.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Of course it is. Look behind you. Oh,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that's so you,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I, I probably
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: something to do with stories, I guess just like, I don't,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I know, like, but it's either going to be like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you know, still telling stories or something like that. I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: love it. Yeah. People can actually read your to,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that's not a bad idea. Like a really funny story.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I know people are going into very serious that way.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, put a full short story on my two
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: episode as well. And then right at the bottom. Oh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: by the way, this is way. Yes, that's a good one.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I think mine will probably be what are you looking at?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: You should put your like tombstones, right?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Why you,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: this is a good one, right? So the tutor was
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the season finale of season two. How did it feel
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: for you once you have completed two seasons of the show?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I felt relieved. I think each time when we do
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a season, I feel relieved because of the fact that
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it's a lot that we're presenting a lot of stories and, um,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: outside of the stories that we're presenting on incredible tales,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: it's like now I can say it uh very directly
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: is that I have my own stories and their own
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: experiences outside. So, uh
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to have that, um the amount of stories that we're telling,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I just kind of feel relieved to move on from
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: it and then ready for the next season,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: were you, do you know that season three was going
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to come out or?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: No, I actually, each time we went into the season,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: we didn't know whether we're going to have the next
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: season or not.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But I think by the time we reached season two
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: into season three, that's when I realized how much it
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: resonated with people because of the fact that I would
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: start to get stories from people, random people outside of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the show because we would run for a season, but
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: it would still stay in people's minds. So even after
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the show had aired, whether I'm taking the bus or
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the train or people randomly see me, they would just
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: come and talk to me.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And uh the majority of the time, I don't know
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: what they're talking about until they give me the twist
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: at the end where it's like, you know, my wife
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: came to see me last night and I'm thinking, why
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: is he telling me his wife came to see me?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife came by last night. I'm like, oh cool.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You know, and then he tells me the whole story
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: about like, you know, she came and caressed him and
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: it was like, it was like a feel good because
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I think part of my um of being who I
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: am is to connect with people. But sometimes I forget
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: from what platform what show and then, you know, he'll
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, she, she left me three years ago.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: She passed away three years ago. So then I'm like, oh,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it's from incredible tales.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is like, this is deep. Yeah. And, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: for people to be able to be, feel safe to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: tell me their stories, like, I'm just very honored. So,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I think, into the second season, um, that's when I
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: start to feel that it really started to connect to
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: people in a different way. Just not just like watching
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it in the, from an entertainment point of view, but
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: everyone has stories, whether it's from other people or their own.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's right. And hence where comes tales from incredible
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: tales looks like we're getting close to the end of
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the episode. K you know what time that is morbid time. Yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: There we go. It's time for our morbid fact of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the day again, this doesn't necessarily have to be about ghost.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: It could be about anything. So Kyle, this one a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: bit supernatural so
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: is really messed up. But in the 19th century people
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: were crazy, superstitious. Ok. So a young woman, her body,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: she's already did. The, basically the villages dug her up
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and her heart and liver will remove post mortem and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: burn because people thought that she was a vampire.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you can't even rest in peace. You can't even rest
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: in peace. I thought, I thought in the first place
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: they will take up the heart and the liver for donation. No, no, no.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But this, this is post mortem. So that by then
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: it's already gone already, you can't even use it 19
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: centuries or more. Yeah, because they do the body. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Did it put it back? At least. I don't know. I, yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: but I was like a fire. Highly. Not likely. But, ok. Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: But she might have practiced witchcraft, which you know, if
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: after you die, even if you have practiced witchcraft, you
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: could still come back as a spirit hunting people. Maybe
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that's why they decided to do that. I would presume
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that is from Europe. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's not in Singapore. No,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that's a good fact.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Ok, it's not. Ok. Empires in Singapore. We've got more
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: than enough here. We don't need a bit too much. Yes,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: maybe too much. All right. So once again, thank you
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: so much art for such a great sharing. And thank
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• 33:20
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• 33:23
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• 33:36
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