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- 0:00I know the administration is looking at a plan B and unfortunately let's go by.
- 0:06Just take a step back for one second and realize that student loans have
- 0:12become politicized, right, so bar words are confused. I'm by not going
- 0:17to pay back? Am I paying it back? What's going on? You're
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- 0:47and welcome you are listening to watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host,
- 0:52Carrie Letz. Well, you recently heard there was a huge setback to
- 0:57the current administration's plans to forgive student loan debt. The Supreme Court struck it
- 1:03down basically said the President does not have authority to a unilaterally give debt forgiveness
- 1:11to millions of student loan borrowers. If you recall, during the global pandemic,
- 1:19the repayments of these loans were suspended. I mean we're talking a trillion
- 1:26and a half nearly two trillion dollars worth of debt. The president announced a
- 1:32plan that he was going to forgive a number hundreds of thousands of people's student
- 1:38loan debt. It went to court, he lost, and now we're back
- 1:42to square one. But more importantly is what effect does this have on you?
- 1:48What effect will it have on the economy? And our good friend Paul
- 1:55Auster is with us now, and Paul, it's great to have you back
- 2:00on. You're the credit expert here. I mean, you know that that
- 2:07it's going to have a huge impact. What's your take on it? What
- 2:10do you think it is going to be the impact of this, Paul.
- 2:14So, so we already know from certain surveys that have been done, and
- 2:17but it was millions of borrowers. A certain percentage of those barrowers will not
- 2:24make the first payment that comes due in October, right, so they start
- 2:30the clot back on September one, injuries will start to a crew. First
- 2:35payments will be due October first, and borrowers are going to miss the first
- 2:40thirty day about payment. And the other side of the coin here is not
- 2:46having any of that debt canceled will equate to hire credit card debt for a
- 2:53certain amount of the other barrowers. And as soon as you start taking up
- 2:57on credit card debt, your your credit scores come down. So it's going
- 3:00to cost them more for everything else. So this is a credit killer.
- 3:05It's a one two punch for sure, between the late payments between the higher
- 3:09credit card debt. It's going to have a tremendous impact on the economy.
- 3:16Now I'm not saying that you know, they should have forgiven the debt.
- 3:21They shouldn't have forgiven the debt SIPs way above my pay grade. But what
- 3:23I do know in terms of the impact on the economy and consumers credit,
- 3:30this will not be a good thing. Now, does the economy need to
- 3:34slow down anyway? Does this have some type of benefit indirectly? Maybe?
- 3:39Ads? All right, so, and I should note your firm is called
- 3:44better Qualified. You're in New Jersey, but work around the country. And
- 3:49so it's somewhere around fifteen billion dollars a month in payments that will start flowing
- 3:55into the government. But a substantial number these people have already spent that money,
- 4:00if you will, or counted on not having to make any repayment.
- 4:06So there's going to be a huge number of defaults. So effectively, here
- 4:12they've just kicked the can down the road, haven't they make sure had it?
- 4:15You know when you start you know again, these early thirty daily payments,
- 4:19we already see the uptick on auto payments. These are typically the early
- 4:26bellweathers of a downturn in the economy. So we see the uptick in pre
- 4:30foreclosures, we see the uptick in auto payments. You're going to see it
- 4:34in student loans. So it's not a good situation. And now what will
- 4:41happen also is you will effectively remove a couple of million in barrowers from the
- 4:46housing market from buying a car. Because this will destroy their credit. They
- 4:51will not be in a position to obtain any type of financing. So this
- 4:57is definitely going to have a negative impact. So potentially this could be the
- 5:02have many more times the effect of a federal reserve rate. I couldn't it,
- 5:08it, sure could it Sure couldn't. Now, Look, I don't
- 5:12think anybody would argue with suspending the payments. During the pandemic, these young
- 5:17bars were in some of the worst positions coming out of school. The job
- 5:23market was obviously crushed, so suspending the payments during the pandemic was a good
- 5:29move. Trying to forgive that much debt after the pandemic under you know,
- 5:35loosely associated the Heroes Act of two thousand and three. It just didn't I
- 5:46didn't think there was any way that the Supreme Court was gonna, you know,
- 5:48uphold it. And here we are, so the solution's going to have
- 5:54to come from Congress. And maybe this is a good time to revisit the
- 5:59entire student loan scheme, all right, the fact that it's the only type
- 6:04of debt virtually out there, with some other exceptions, but the only type
- 6:09of debt that is non dischargeable in bankruptcy, maybe it's time for Congress to
- 6:15say, you know what, a student loans, especially if the person never
- 6:19graduated from college got the value that they were seeking. Maybe this is the
- 6:26time to revisit this, and maybe it's going to result in forgiveness. But
- 6:30on the other hand, you've got to be sympathetic to the people who either
- 6:33paid for their college in whole or paid back their student loans, spend ten
- 6:40years paying them back, and then is that fair to them? To see
- 6:45millions of people have their loans forgiven just for showing up. Yeah, I
- 6:49mean there were already income based repayment plans. There are page you go plans,
- 6:57there are service loan forgiveness that if you work for a government agency or
- 7:02a nonprofit for ten years, um. After the ten years, then it's
- 7:08it's forgiven. So those types of incentives are still herere and barrowers need to
- 7:15be very proactive. But what I've been trying to do is just get the
- 7:17message out there. You can't wait until September one. It's it'll be here
- 7:20in a blink of an eye October one. You have to have a plan
- 7:24in place and figure this out. It's not just gonna go away. UM,
- 7:29so do something. When was the last time you logged in to your
- 7:32to your student loan account? You even know what the principal balances do?
- 7:36You know what those monthly payments are going to look like? Um? You
- 7:40know when they when they start to kick in. So be proactive. Go
- 7:44to student aid dot gov. Student aid dot gov is the only website,
- 7:49the only place borrowers should go to get information. As you don't carry what's
- 7:56going to happen is you're gonna have all these bad actors jumping in here.
- 8:00It's a perfect time for them to pray on these bar works who are very,
- 8:05very susceptible right now. They're panicking, So you're going to have people
- 8:09wind up getting it, you know, caught up in scams and fraud and
- 8:13situations like that because they're so vulnerable right now. So student aid student aid
- 8:18dot gov is the only website a bar where should go to. And again,
- 8:24there are retainment plans out there that are going to be directly correlated to
- 8:28your current income, So you have to figure it out. So what do
- 8:33you think, good? What do you think is going to be the upshot
- 8:37of this? I mean, you know you're being a not being a gambler
- 8:43as such, but knowing the magnitude of the problem out there and how many
- 8:48people will be suffering as a result, where do you think this is heading?
- 8:52So again, that's the only time is going to tell that. But
- 8:58I know the administration is looking at a plan bum and unfortunately let's go by
- 9:05Just take a step back for one second and realize that student loans have become
- 9:11politicized, right so bar words are confused by not going to pay it back?
- 9:16Am I paying it back? What's going on, and of course human
- 9:20nature says, let's hope for the best. Right, They're going to get
- 9:24this through, and I'm not going to have to pay back, um,
- 9:26maybe all of my student loan or ten twenty five thousand dollars worth of the
- 9:31student loan. It's going to significantly decrease my payments. And that's These are
- 9:37just carrots that have been you know, hanging out there, being dangled in
- 9:41front of these students causing confusion. So the politic is the poet is the
- 9:46politics behind this um. You know, ongoing debacle is not a good thing
- 9:52for anybody. So what happens, you know, moving forward, we know
- 9:58there will be ex out of the falls. We know there's going to be
- 10:01x amount of late payments. We know they're going to carry higher credit our
- 10:05debt because of the student loan debt. And again what I am saying that
- 10:09is this is a real one two punch killer for these young people because they
- 10:16don't have a long credit history. So people loans are very powerful helping these
- 10:22young people build their credit. Well it's gone in the blink of an eye
- 10:26with one thirty daily late payment. You know, you could lose a young
- 10:31person like that could lose fifty seventy five one hundred points off their credit scores.
- 10:35So this is not a good situation, to say the least. It's
- 10:41a nightmare scenario. People who've been trying to do the right thing. The
- 10:46government gives them this relief, and it's questionable whether they really have the authority
- 10:52to do that in the first place. But nobody seems to be challenging that,
- 10:56right. So you know, uh, you gotta wonder the government has
- 11:05caused this mess, so they need to They need to settle the problem.
- 11:09They need to solve it, right, Congress, and go back to what
- 11:13you were saying before. You don't solve it by forgiving the debt um that's
- 11:18already been obtained, right, because that's not fair to a guy like me
- 11:24who paid my student loans back. You know, I didn't come from a
- 11:28high net income family. I had to pay my student loans back. And
- 11:31what about the students that invest in trade schools and and try and start their
- 11:37own businesses. You know, where do you draw the line? So you
- 11:39draw the line in you signed a contract for these student loans. Why does
- 11:46it cost so much money? Some of these universities have you know, endowments
- 11:52that are that are the size of countries GDP. I mean, it's just
- 11:56an amazing situation that you diversities have become these powerful, powerful financial vehicles.
- 12:03So how did we get here in the first place. The universities are charging
- 12:09way too much in room board and tuition, and it's offset. It's kind
- 12:13of like the healthcare industry. They charge that because they know that these students
- 12:18are going to be able to get financing. They paid for it. So
- 12:22there really has to be a going to peel back the onion all the way
- 12:26and kind of almost start over and then you know, deal with the problem.
- 12:33But you know, canceling the debt is not solving the problem. Yeah,
- 12:37definitely not. And well, I guess we're gonna find out. You
- 12:41know, Congress got us into this mess, and Congress it's up to Congress
- 12:48to get us out, right. That's a scary thought. Care. That's
- 12:54just you don't have a good track record. They have a great track record
- 12:58and getting us into mess, but they don't have a great track record in
- 13:01getting us out. It's certainly not without causing pain somewhere else, or just
- 13:07like you had said, just kicking the can down the road. You know,
- 13:13and what you were saying about these large college institutions here creating this problem.
- 13:22You know, they're the beneficiaries of it, right, I mean,
- 13:26they benefit from the problem that was created here. And so you can't just
- 13:33let them off the hook and say they have no you know, they become
- 13:39these wealthy institutions here, you know, as a result of government large s.
- 13:46So they got to be part of the solution, and they have to
- 13:50they have to bite the bullet here, right, there's no doubt, there's
- 13:52no doubt that they have to be held accountable and also participate in in how
- 13:58we move fall right, could not agree with you more. Hey, just
- 14:03tell us again where we find you, how we connect with you on the
- 14:05web, and and what else you can do. Listen, just go to
- 14:11better qualified dot com. You can ask questions anonymously. You can get access
- 14:16to two different self help guides. You can speak to one of our credit
- 14:22experts to figure out, you know, what's the best way to move forward.
- 14:26We can suggest debt management programs to kind of deal with all your other
- 14:31debt. You know, like you had said, if if it's a federal
- 14:35student loan, there is no you know, even if you have filed for
- 14:39bankruptcy, it will be excluded. So we have to look at this holistically
- 14:43for each consumer. So just go to better Qualified dot com, set up
- 14:48a brief phone call, and the consultation and analysis is always free, and
- 14:52let's figure out if if we can provide any sort of relief and assistance.
- 14:56All right, Hey, we really appreciate you coming on as always, Paul.
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