Latest / Normally / Normally Podcast: Democrats Meltdown on Camera, Fauci Cover-Up Claims & Nigel Farage’s UK Surge
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Yays, we are back on normal you show with normalish
- 0:08Speaker 1: takes for when the news gets weird. I am Mary,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Cathryn Nils.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I'm Carol Marco. It's how are you, Mary, Catherine.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm good. You'll be glad to know that I got
- 0:15Speaker 1: my children so dirty this morning that I bathe them.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I was like, right, let's make it really worth it. Yes, once,
- 0:26Speaker 1: So what do you do? We went to like a
- 0:29Speaker 1: regional park where they have access to a bay and
- 0:32Speaker 1: then there's just like a huge beach area that's not
- 0:36Speaker 1: the Potomac. Don't anybody worry.
- 0:37Speaker 2: It's a bay, not swimming in the Potomac.
- 0:40Speaker 1: No. And I just let them wait around in the
- 0:42Speaker 1: mud and stuff and goof off and it's probably goosepoop involved.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I don't know what about you, Carol.
- 0:49Speaker 2: You know the kids are doing their year end things.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Are school years almost over. That's quite nice. And I
- 0:57Speaker 2: have a driving child now, so she does a lot
- 0:59Speaker 2: of the taking her brothers around.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Wow, it's great. That is a real upgrade.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I posted this on X but when we
- 1:08Speaker 2: were in Brooklyn last weekend. You know, all of her
- 1:10Speaker 2: friends in Brooklyn can't drive for another year, so it
- 1:13Speaker 2: would be like, within the first thirty seconds of the conversation,
- 1:16Speaker 2: they'd be like, how are you doing? She's like, I
- 1:17Speaker 2: drive now. I have my driver's license, so that's all
- 1:21Speaker 2: I'm doing. How are you doing?
- 1:23Speaker 1: Great? Just cruising now it is? Yeah, well that's great.
- 1:29Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Dems crashing out? What is
- 1:34Speaker 2: going on? I feel like they fall apart at the
- 1:38Speaker 2: tiniest bit of pushback. And I know you and I
- 1:41Speaker 2: have been talking about this for a long time that
- 1:43Speaker 2: they just have no stamina for the kind of thing
- 1:46Speaker 2: that Republicans have to face. But even by our extremely
- 1:52Speaker 2: low standards for them, they've been not meeting those standards.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:58Speaker 2: So Aavier Era is running for governor of California, and
- 2:04Speaker 2: he was set up to have an interview with a
- 2:07Speaker 2: local California station and he kind of lost the plot
- 2:13Speaker 2: right off the bat. Let's roll that clip. This is
- 2:16Speaker 2: the start of our interview with Javia Prista in Highland Park.
- 2:20Speaker 2: By the way, this is a profile piece.
- 2:21Speaker 1: This is not a gotcha piece.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Right.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Well, look, I think we're these questions are fair. It's
- 2:26Speaker 2: in order to learn about you as a candidate. So
- 2:29Speaker 2: one is about the profile.
- 2:30Speaker 1: I don't know how you define profile, but I'd like
- 2:32Speaker 1: to begin the interview the way I described profile is
- 2:35Speaker 1: you talk about all the things that I've done, things
- 2:37Speaker 1: I want to do, and along with some tough questions,
- 2:41Speaker 1: but not only a tough question.
- 2:43Speaker 2: She hadn't asked anything yet, and he was already like,
- 2:46Speaker 2: you're only going to talk about good.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Things, right, right, well, And I do feel like even
- 2:53Speaker 1: for a Democrat, if you even for a Democrat, even
- 2:55Speaker 1: for if you take this posture with even a reporter
- 3:00Speaker 1: who is friends likely to be basically supportive of you,
- 3:03Speaker 1: they're going to be more likely to ask hard things
- 3:06Speaker 1: because they're like, it's not your function to tell me
- 3:09Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. Also, it just is not
- 3:13Speaker 1: that hard to be an adult who has been asked
- 3:16Speaker 1: questions before, exactly as a person who is running for
- 3:20Speaker 1: governor of California.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things is that federal
- 3:26Speaker 2: prosecutors had uncovered a conspiracy in which some of his
- 3:30Speaker 2: top aides and consultants siphoned money from his old attorney
- 3:35Speaker 2: general campaign account. And so I think he was worried
- 3:40Speaker 2: about her asking about that. But in which case, prepare
- 3:44Speaker 2: an answer. You know, he's named as a victim in
- 3:48Speaker 2: that indictment. It's not a bad thing for him necessarily
- 3:52Speaker 2: unless he reacts like a lunatic, in which case it
- 3:56Speaker 2: becomes a bigger story. It's like, well, what did he
- 3:58Speaker 2: not want to be asked about? And then the other
- 4:00Speaker 2: thing that she ended up asking him about was a
- 4:03Speaker 2: New York Times story about his time as HHS secretary
- 4:08Speaker 2: where they lost some number of migrant miners in the
- 4:13Speaker 2: detention centers. Again, you know what she's going to ask you,
- 4:18Speaker 2: You know what the tough questions you're going to be
- 4:21Speaker 2: prepare in advance.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Yeah, just have something. I do enjoy that. Katie Porter
- 4:27Speaker 1: just straight up said in a debate on stage, he's
- 4:31Speaker 1: saying that that's MAGA talking points, but actually it's true.
- 4:34Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, that's what we were saying several
- 4:36Speaker 1: years ago.
- 4:37Speaker 2: That's how all MAGA talking points turn out.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Usually how that works. So I'm glad to have the
- 4:42Speaker 1: Democrats saying that now. But yes, just prepare something. But look,
- 4:45Speaker 1: this guy has been California Attorney general, worked as an
- 4:48Speaker 1: attorney for years, has been elected to office, and was
- 4:51Speaker 1: the head of HHS, and is now running for governor
- 4:54Speaker 1: and cannot muster better than this.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I like from a local reporter and not saying that
- 5:00Speaker 2: local reporters are you know, less than in any way,
- 5:05Speaker 2: but they tend not to be like the national reporters
- 5:09Speaker 2: looking for the big clip. It's funny because she got
- 5:12Speaker 2: the big clip without ever asking for it, without actuallying
- 5:15Speaker 2: for it.
- 5:15Speaker 1: This is similar to what happened with that very viral
- 5:18Speaker 1: clip of Katie Porter where she went off on the reporter.
- 5:22Speaker 1: That was also just a sit down like let's chat,
- 5:26Speaker 1: but the reporter had ideas of I don't know, asking
- 5:29Speaker 1: her a few like medium challenging things that she did
- 5:33Speaker 1: not like that at all. So Yeah, the reporters in California,
- 5:37Speaker 1: the TV reporters in California making a name for themselves
- 5:39Speaker 1: by by not doing at all, balanced with almost nothing.
- 5:45Speaker 2: By asking extremely standard campaign questions.
- 5:48Speaker 1: I appreciate their efforts though nonetheless it is it's entertaining
- 5:52Speaker 1: to watch and truly, how are you going to be
- 5:55Speaker 1: governor of California? At least Newsom can talk right. I
- 5:58Speaker 1: can critique his talking because he's often lying right, but
- 6:01Speaker 1: he does just like have words come out of his mouth.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Yeah. Also in the DEM crash out pile, Senator from Maryland,
- 6:11Speaker 2: Chris Van Holland had this exchange with FBI director Cash Patel.
- 6:16Speaker 3: The only person that was slinging Margarita is in the
- 6:19Speaker 3: Salvador on the taxpayer dollar with a convicted gangbanging rapist.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Was you, you know, the only person that ran up
- 6:24Speaker 3: a director bar tab in Washington, DC at the lobby
- 6:28Speaker 3: dark room drinking on tacked pair dime during the day.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Now, he had asked Cash Patel about the allegations that
- 6:39Speaker 2: he was drinking at work, and Cash gave that excellent
- 6:43Speaker 2: answer and basically shut it down completely. And Ben Holland
- 6:48Speaker 2: has been all over the place ever since.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his reaction is crazy. First, the question is fine,
- 6:55Speaker 1: Like there's an Atlantic piece that says that Cash has
- 6:57Speaker 1: this issue. Ask about that an answer from the guy.
- 7:01Speaker 1: But you have to expect that these cabinet secretaries come
- 7:06Speaker 1: armed with oppo. They simply do. And I don't mind
- 7:10Speaker 1: it because if you're a congress person you should be
- 7:13Speaker 1: used to that. Again, this is these are tough questions
- 7:16Speaker 1: for you. Ask the question, but expect to get something back.
- 7:20Speaker 1: And in Patel's case, he comes with several points about
- 7:24Speaker 1: how Van Holland was sitting at the table having Margarita's
- 7:28Speaker 1: with this guy. Very famous picture brings up a weakness
- 7:31Speaker 1: for him because it's not a good look y. He
- 7:34Speaker 1: references an FEC filing that was many thousands of dollars
- 7:37Speaker 1: spent on alcohol. Then Van Holland decides that the way
- 7:42Speaker 1: to respond to this is by tweeting all morning or like.
- 7:47Speaker 1: The last three tweets he has are in response to
- 7:50Speaker 1: Cash Pattel. So the rapid response forty seven sent out
- 7:54Speaker 1: the picture and Chris Van Holland is like, glasses were
- 7:57Speaker 1: placed in front of us, but we did not drink that.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I know that maybe be a confusing concept for director Patel.
- 8:02Speaker 1: The next tweet is yesterday FBI director Cash told me
- 8:06Speaker 1: he'd take the Alcohol Use Disorder's identification test if I did. Well,
- 8:10Speaker 1: here's mine. Given all the lies he told yesterday, I
- 8:13Speaker 1: imagine he'll fudge the numbers here. But let's see yours,
- 8:15Speaker 1: director Patel. So he went into this thing asking when
- 8:19Speaker 1: did you stop beating your wife? Yeah, and then he
- 8:22Speaker 1: ends up doing surveys online about how maybe he beats
- 8:25Speaker 1: his wife.
- 8:28Speaker 2: It's wild. It's wild again. It's that expectations game. Cash
- 8:33Speaker 2: Patel expected to be attacked, and that is why he
- 8:36Speaker 2: was so well prepared. But these Democrats completely don't expect that.
- 8:41Speaker 2: They think they're going to get a walk everywhere they go,
- 8:44Speaker 2: and so they come off it's so unprepared.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Yeah. He also tweeted about the bar tab and he's like, well,
- 8:51Speaker 1: technically that wasn't public money. It's like, my god, have
- 8:55Speaker 1: you ever heard when you're explaining you're losing, because that's
- 8:57Speaker 1: what happened. What is happening right now? Yeah. I also
- 8:59Speaker 1: do want to say on the ptel front, there was
- 9:01Speaker 1: the story after the story that alleged his drinking, talked
- 9:05Speaker 1: about how he gives bourbon bottles a lot of people
- 9:08Speaker 1: as I just want to say that that's not very weird,
- 9:12Speaker 1: right in well enforcement communities. In law enforcement communities, they're
- 9:17Speaker 1: often it's a lot of men like bourbon.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Yeah, lot of women.
- 9:21Speaker 1: A lot of women do too. But if you're giving
- 9:23Speaker 1: gifts to men in law enforcement, it's a pretty good bet, right, right.
- 9:28Speaker 1: So they have them in grace and various teams. They
- 9:31Speaker 1: look cool and this is not a very odd thing
- 9:35Speaker 1: to give. It doesn't. It's not a signal of a
- 9:37Speaker 1: red flag of some big problem.
- 9:39Speaker 2: Right. Absolutely, I have bottles that I don't. I don't
- 9:43Speaker 2: drink wine, but I have bottles of wine that have
- 9:46Speaker 2: a politician's like logo on it. At no point did
- 9:50Speaker 2: anybody think, oh, that politician has a drinking problem, because
- 9:53Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with anything. And again, I
- 9:55Speaker 2: would love a cash Battel branded bottle of I'm a
- 10:00Speaker 2: rye drinker if you have rye, but I'll take bourbon.
- 10:02Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, send it over.
- 10:05Speaker 1: It's very off brand from me, but I'm not a
- 10:07Speaker 1: brown liquor girl.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Wow, that does that does seem off brand for you?
- 10:10Speaker 2: And it seems like you would totally be like I thought,
- 10:12Speaker 2: you know, as we're talking about this and like, but
- 10:14Speaker 2: we both drink brown liquor.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I feel like I should do the Bourbon Trail to
- 10:19Speaker 1: like to like, I'll take my palette more sophisticated. Yeah,
- 10:23Speaker 1: and then you know, Chris van Holland can use that
- 10:25Speaker 1: opo against me at somebody.
- 10:26Speaker 2: But right, alcoholic normally girls.
- 10:30Speaker 1: We should take that trip and improve my uh my tastes.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Actually, I'm fully serious, a normally
- 10:38Speaker 2: branded tour of the Kentucky Bourbon Trail. They're want to
- 10:42Speaker 2: sponsor it.
- 10:44Speaker 1: We are on our way We're going to.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Take a short break and be right back with more
- 10:50Speaker 2: on Normally. We are back on Normally where a haunted
- 10:57Speaker 2: virus outbreak aboard a crew ship has made people go
- 11:02Speaker 2: a little nuts and start thinking about again lockdowns or
- 11:07Speaker 2: masking or whatever. And I immediately saw the reaction from
- 11:11Speaker 2: people who you know, we all suffered through it during COVID,
- 11:15Speaker 2: just being like, don't even try it, but I'll tell
- 11:18Speaker 2: you. You know, it's funny. The COVID fiasco has made people
- 11:23Speaker 2: so suspicious of any story, but the story about this
- 11:27Speaker 2: hantavirus kind of sounds legit, even though it did give
- 11:31Speaker 2: me a little bit of the you know, eating bats
- 11:34Speaker 2: at the wet market vibes. But apparently a Dutch couple
- 11:38Speaker 2: were on a long bird watching trip through South America
- 11:41Speaker 2: and they bored the MB Hondias, which is the ship
- 11:44Speaker 2: that had the outbreak. They reportedly visited a landfill that
- 11:49Speaker 2: is famous among birders for attracting rare scavenger birds, especially
- 11:54Speaker 2: the white throated kara kara. And from what the Post reports,
- 11:59Speaker 2: this landfill is so disgusting and like completely not allowed
- 12:04Speaker 2: to have tourism, and yet this couple.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Anyway, I would bathe my children right there.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, shower almost directly afterwards, at least maybe even hand sanitizer. Maybe.
- 12:16Speaker 1: So.
- 12:16Speaker 2: The theory is that the rodents living around the dump
- 12:19Speaker 2: carried this particular andy strain of the hunted virus. Investigators
- 12:24Speaker 2: think the couple may have inhaled the virus particles from
- 12:28Speaker 2: the contaminated rodent droppings or urine while bird watching there.
- 12:32Speaker 2: It's all super gross. Shortly after boarding the cruise, the
- 12:35Speaker 2: husband became ill and later died, but apparently he had
- 12:39Speaker 2: spread that infection to several other passengers and crew members
- 12:44Speaker 2: aboard this cruise ship. Yeah, I don't know.
- 12:48Speaker 1: I think this is plausible because birders are very serious
- 12:53Speaker 1: about it.
- 12:53Speaker 2: They are serious.
- 12:55Speaker 1: If you're if you're going to another country, yeah, to
- 12:59Speaker 1: look for birds. We're already a couple of steps beyond
- 13:03Speaker 1: where I'm ever going to be, and the landfill is
- 13:06Speaker 1: just one more step. It's like bird watchers, particularly if
- 13:10Speaker 1: they if there really is a rare bird that shows
- 13:12Speaker 1: up there, I could see. It's like Pokemon got to
- 13:14Speaker 1: catch them all, you know, they got to get out
- 13:16Speaker 1: there and they got to say I saw the kra kara.
- 13:20Speaker 2: I can't think of anything that I would want to
- 13:23Speaker 2: go to a landfill for like they're like, hey, there's
- 13:25Speaker 2: like a brand new burken bag at the landfill. Like
- 13:28Speaker 2: you know what. Pass.
- 13:29Speaker 1: I heard a story one time about somebody who like
- 13:32Speaker 1: lost their physical bitcoin. There was worth like huge amounts
- 13:38Speaker 1: of money and it was in a landfill and they
- 13:40Speaker 1: went looking for it.
- 13:42Speaker 2: No still, no, keep still for you. I just I'll
- 13:45Speaker 2: never be able to watch that off me.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I do you think? Yes, if we can all
- 13:50Speaker 1: stay calm as hauntavirus is less communicable than COVID, not
- 13:56Speaker 1: everything with virus attached to it needs to be panic.
- 13:59Speaker 1: My let's see, let's assess our risk, which is the
- 14:04Speaker 1: thing that so many did not do in public health
- 14:08Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Yes, that would be nice. Also on the communicable disease front,
- 14:14Speaker 2: a COVID whistleblower testified today. His name is James Erdman,
- 14:19Speaker 2: and he testified that Fauci's role in the COVID cover
- 14:23Speaker 2: up was intentional. I think that's kind of a big deal.
- 14:27Speaker 2: I think that's going to be like in any mainstream
- 14:30Speaker 2: media tomorrow. Yeah.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Look, I think media long ago just said we're just
- 14:36Speaker 1: gonna slide right on past this, and we're not really
- 14:39Speaker 1: gonna revisit, And we're not going to talk about when
- 14:43Speaker 1: people we loved were incredibly bad actors and outright lied
- 14:47Speaker 1: to the American people for control over their lives over
- 14:50Speaker 1: and over again. So no, I don't think we're going
- 14:52Speaker 1: to hear a lot about this. I'm not surprised that
- 14:57Speaker 1: someone reports that Fauci deliberately led people to believe this.
- 15:04Speaker 1: That was what I suspected all along. Yeah, I think
- 15:07Speaker 1: he's shown a propensity to lie in public many times over,
- 15:12Speaker 1: and this is just another example. But you know, it'd
- 15:16Speaker 1: be nice. It'd be nice if those people who supported
- 15:20Speaker 1: Faucian called all of us monsters for pointing out when
- 15:22Speaker 1: he was lying, could say, oops, yeah, are bad.
- 15:26Speaker 2: They can't. They can't because I even at the very beginning,
- 15:29Speaker 2: where Fauci throws out a pitch at an empty stadium,
- 15:33Speaker 2: he wears his mask to the pitcher's mound and throws
- 15:37Speaker 2: the pitch where nobody is anywhere near him, and then
- 15:40Speaker 2: he goes back into the stands and sit with I
- 15:42Speaker 2: think it was his wife, and then another friend takes
- 15:44Speaker 2: off the mask, eats popcorn, is like none of it
- 15:47Speaker 2: made any sense, and yeah, still mad, bro.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Yeah, none of them lived like they actually were talking
- 15:54Speaker 1: about the virus right like. None of it matched up
- 15:58Speaker 1: except for in rare cases, and certainly not with Fauci.
- 16:02Speaker 1: By the way, the CIA spokesperson says, the committee acted
- 16:05Speaker 1: in bad faith by subpoenaing an agency officer for testimony
- 16:08Speaker 1: today without notifying CIA, despite having already obtained closed door
- 16:12Speaker 1: of testimony from the individual previously. Well, if they obtained
- 16:14Speaker 1: the testimony, then why isn't it fair game for us
- 16:16Speaker 1: as well? The witness testifying today is not appearing as
- 16:19Speaker 1: whistleblower in pursuit of the truth, but instead in response
- 16:21Speaker 1: to the subpoena issued by Chairman Paul So, yeah, so
- 16:25Speaker 1: he can talk.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, fine to me. Yeah. Andrew Colvit summarized
- 16:30Speaker 2: Erdman's testimony by saying Fauci stacked the Intelligence Communities analysis
- 16:35Speaker 2: with conflicted scientists funded by NIAID who pushed the natural
- 16:40Speaker 2: origin lie while obfuscating facts around a lab leak from Wuhan, China.
- 16:44Speaker 2: CIA managers retaliated against analysts who refused to go along
- 16:48Speaker 2: with the middle of the night rewrite that buried the
- 16:50Speaker 2: lab leak conclusion. Seems bad, I don't know again, you
- 16:55Speaker 2: know when hantavirus hits and everybody's first reaction is I'm
- 17:00Speaker 2: not doing anything to stop this. I don't care what
- 17:03Speaker 2: they tell me about it. That's not great. You know.
- 17:06Speaker 2: If we do have a contagion that's actually bad and
- 17:10Speaker 2: deadly and very easily passed, we're going to be in
- 17:14Speaker 2: trouble because these people lied about COVID.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Yeah, frittering away public trust was not a great idea,
- 17:20Speaker 1: and we kept saying that, and.
- 17:23Speaker 2: If only somebody had said it.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Please listen to us, help us, help you. Nonetheless, few
- 17:31Speaker 1: they were not interested in that.
- 17:33Speaker 2: No, they were not They were not at all interested
- 17:35Speaker 2: in that. All right, we're going to take a short
- 17:37Speaker 2: break and come right back with some British politics. British
- 17:41Speaker 2: be right back.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Okay, we are back on normally with a little news
- 17:48Speaker 1: from overseas. In the UK, where Cure Starmer of the
- 17:52Speaker 1: Labor Party is the Prime minister, they held what's sort
- 17:54Speaker 1: of equivalent to the midterms, like everyone that's not a
- 17:59Speaker 1: member of Parliament is voted on, and the Labor Party
- 18:03Speaker 1: lost thirteen hundred seats. I think it's a lot over
- 18:07Speaker 1: a thousand. It was a lot, and they didn't all
- 18:11Speaker 1: by the way go to the Tory Party. Many of
- 18:14Speaker 1: them went to the Reform Party which is headed by
- 18:18Speaker 1: Nigel Farage. So the left took a beating here. This
- 18:24Speaker 1: is the party that is the party of the Prime Minister.
- 18:28Speaker 1: He's of course like on thin ice now having all
- 18:31Speaker 1: these meetings trying to figure out is there going to
- 18:33Speaker 1: be a leadership position change because he is clearly so
- 18:37Speaker 1: unliked and I think, frankly very obviously inept. So he's
- 18:42Speaker 1: sort of hanging on by his fingernails at ten Downing
- 18:44Speaker 1: and people in his own party trying to figure out
- 18:47Speaker 1: how to get them out of this situation.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom Bevin posted what happened in the UK elections
- 18:56Speaker 2: on the night that it was going down, and I
- 18:58Speaker 2: mean basically Labor and also Conservatives they lost quite a bit,
- 19:02Speaker 2: but Green gained and Liberal Democrats gained, and of course
- 19:06Speaker 2: Reform gained the most. So he had Reform up by
- 19:10Speaker 2: three twenty, libdem up by twenty three, and Green's up
- 19:13Speaker 2: by twenty two, Conservatives down by eighty and Labored down
- 19:17Speaker 2: by two hundred and six. I just kind of hard
- 19:21Speaker 2: to understand what's going to happen in Britain when I
- 19:24Speaker 2: think it's going to just the centrist parties will no
- 19:28Speaker 2: longer exist if things continue down this road. There's some
- 19:32Speaker 2: conservatives I really like, but there's conservatives that are not
- 19:35Speaker 2: conservative at all in Britain and I think that that's
- 19:40Speaker 2: I think they want that version of American conservativism. And
- 19:44Speaker 2: I got into it with a Wall Street Journal whatever
- 19:47Speaker 2: writer who said Trump has nothing to do with this.
- 19:49Speaker 2: He was on with Stuart Barney, and Stuart asked him,
- 19:53Speaker 2: do you think this Trump played any role? I think
- 19:56Speaker 2: Trump does play a role. I think Trump showed something big,
- 20:00Speaker 2: which is that you can close the border to a
- 20:02Speaker 2: legal immigration period, end of sentence, and that's something. And
- 20:07Speaker 2: I think that what reform is doing in Britain is
- 20:10Speaker 2: saying we could try that here.
- 20:12Speaker 1: We could do that. Yeah. Well, and it's also interesting
- 20:14Speaker 1: that the Labor Party, which should be sort of the
- 20:17Speaker 1: more centrist of the lefty parties, has gone from Tony
- 20:21Speaker 1: Blair to Cure Starmer. Right, that's the trajectory, right, and
- 20:27Speaker 1: it's not serving people well. I also think it's interesting
- 20:30Speaker 1: that these are that you hear this big cry out
- 20:34Speaker 1: in local elections, because it feels to me like that
- 20:37Speaker 1: might be a sign that local competence and on the
- 20:41Speaker 1: street crime and disorder issues are playing pretty large in
- 20:46Speaker 1: a lot of politics, and if you stick to those messages,
- 20:50Speaker 1: you might do pretty well wherever you are in the world.
- 20:53Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the look this podcast is called normally
- 20:57Speaker 2: because we like normal behavior, and I think there's nothing
- 21:01Speaker 2: crazy about saying I want to reduce crime on our streets.
- 21:05Speaker 2: I want to reduce illegal immigration because if for no
- 21:08Speaker 2: other reason it's illegal, it's not permitted. I want to
- 21:12Speaker 2: follow the laws. I think a lot of people and
- 21:14Speaker 2: I talk about Asia a lot because I just I've
- 21:17Speaker 2: been there twice in the last couple of years, and
- 21:18Speaker 2: I really enjoyed what I saw there in places like Singapore,
- 21:21Speaker 2: and people are like, well, but yeah, but Singapore canes.
- 21:23Speaker 2: People like, you don't have to cane people. What if
- 21:26Speaker 2: you just enforced your laws at the standard that people expect.
- 21:30Speaker 2: They don't want caning, that's good. Why don't you just
- 21:32Speaker 2: put them in regular old jail.
- 21:34Speaker 1: By the way, the laws when it comes to immigration
- 21:37Speaker 1: in our country were passed by a democratically elected Congress,
- 21:41Speaker 1: and people act like it's fascism right to enforce the
- 21:45Speaker 1: laws created by our elected officials. I don't think that
- 21:49Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that, and I would like to
- 21:52Speaker 1: see it done. But I think this kind of thing
- 21:54Speaker 1: is resonating all over and that the Left took us
- 21:59Speaker 1: down these paths for so long and punished people so
- 22:02Speaker 1: much for speaking up about them, that people are now like, nah,
- 22:08Speaker 1: we're making a turn. We're making a turn.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Here, sharp, sharp turn. So let's see what happens. I
- 22:16Speaker 2: root for the UK. I would love to see it
- 22:17Speaker 2: be a functioning society, and so much about what's happening
- 22:21Speaker 2: there right now is not functional at all, and I
- 22:24Speaker 2: think that no growth. For example, they're just you know,
- 22:28Speaker 2: somebody there was this thing. I think we talked about
- 22:31Speaker 2: it on here, but if they were a US state,
- 22:33Speaker 2: they would be our fifty first poorest state.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, speaking of normalcy. I wanted to make this
- 22:41Speaker 1: point about DC too, and I might have done it
- 22:42Speaker 1: before in the podcast, but it matters to me. The
- 22:46Speaker 1: left will sort of tisk tisk about the reflecting pool
- 22:50Speaker 1: or the fountains and the parks being on the fountain
- 22:55Speaker 1: in DuPont Circle is on. The fountain in Meridian Park
- 22:57Speaker 1: is on. The fountains in the Lafayette Park are on
- 23:00Speaker 1: the National Park Service I think is the entity that
- 23:03Speaker 1: is doing that work.
- 23:04Speaker 2: I've never seen them on before.
- 23:06Speaker 1: I have lived in this town since twenty two thousand
- 23:11Speaker 1: and four. Now there may have been times that they
- 23:13Speaker 1: were on at some point, but as a rule, they
- 23:17Speaker 1: have been off the entire time I've lived here. Just
- 23:20Speaker 1: like the escalators on the Metro don't worry, and so
- 23:24Speaker 1: people sort of tiss tiss, like I can't believe they're
- 23:26Speaker 1: spending money on this or that. It's like, I don't know,
- 23:28Speaker 1: having them functioning seems like the bare minimum, and I
- 23:31Speaker 1: kind of enjoy it.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Yeah, if you kind of get used to the idea
- 23:34Speaker 2: that things don't function, I think things spiral out of
- 23:37Speaker 2: control very quickly. Things should function. That's a good message.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Well, and I realized when I saw the water flowing
- 23:44Speaker 1: over the Meridian Park fountains. I was like, it could
- 23:47Speaker 1: have been so much better the whole time. And it
- 23:49Speaker 1: is a small thing, but it's a thing that signals
- 23:52Speaker 1: deep down, someone's running this place in a way that
- 23:56Speaker 1: makes the people here feel cared for.
- 23:59Speaker 2: The broken windows theory in New York did so much
- 24:02Speaker 2: because they didn't allow subways to go out covered in graffiti,
- 24:06Speaker 2: and so that made people expect that things would be
- 24:09Speaker 2: clean and taken care of. And these are good things.
- 24:12Speaker 2: We want, these things. We love to see it. We
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