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- 0:54Speaker 2: What's up, Ryan?
- 0:55Speaker 3: What's up, fellas? How about another victory week for you guys?
- 0:59Speaker 3: We're on Victory Tuesday here and a nice relaxing one
- 1:02Speaker 3: because you got the bye coming up.
- 1:04Speaker 5: Five straight for the Broncos as they head into the
- 1:07Speaker 5: bye week. Seven and two. Big question, though.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Trade deadline is today at 2 o'clock. Do you expect
- 1:12Speaker 4: the Broncos to do something?
- 1:14Speaker 3: I don't, but at the same time, I think that
- 1:18Speaker 3: one thing fans miss, at the end of the trade deadline,
- 1:22Speaker 3: prices become cheaper. So yes, if you want a piece
- 1:25Speaker 3: and you're sending or buying players, sure. I think everybody's
- 1:29Speaker 3: seeing Jeffrey Simmons, I think that guy has read the
- 1:31Speaker 3: D tackle at Bears. That worked out, so that's gonna
- 1:34Speaker 3: get a couple people. thinking some more, but look, you
- 1:37Speaker 3: have the team you need if you're the Broncos, and
- 1:39Speaker 3: the number one thing people are going to want is
- 1:41Speaker 3: one or two of your corners or safeties. Are you
- 1:43Speaker 3: giving away JL Skinner? Are you giving away Jaquan McMillan?
- 1:47Speaker 3: I mean, I'm saying no, but we talked last week.
- 1:51Speaker 3: I'm down with moving some pieces at the running back
- 1:53Speaker 3: position because you need a vet to get ready and
- 1:56Speaker 3: have you ready for the playoffs.
- 1:58Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't mess with the strength, and their strength
- 2:00Speaker 6: right now is the depth in their defensive backfield. That's me,
- 2:03Speaker 6: but Let me ask you something about the offensive side
- 2:06Speaker 6: of things and the running game.
- 2:07Speaker 7: You're an offensive lineman. You played that position. You played
- 2:10Speaker 7: it very well. You won a ring. Is it the line?
- 2:13Speaker 7: Is it the running game? Or is it the running back?
- 2:15Speaker 7: What's the problem there? D, all the above.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Always choose D, all the above. I did love the
- 2:23Speaker 3: commitment to the run. And if you go back and
- 2:26Speaker 3: watch this game against the Panthers, I mean, the Broncos
- 2:29Speaker 3: really did commit to the run. They ran it with
- 2:32Speaker 3: over 20 designed run calls. I mean, there have been
- 2:35Speaker 3: games where there was 11, right? So they committed to
- 2:38Speaker 3: the run in a different way. I think you saw
- 2:40Speaker 3: it in how it opened up the rest of the game.
- 2:43Speaker 3: I think it kept Bo Nix in flow. But let's
- 2:46Speaker 3: be clear, it's not looking the same with J.K.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Dobbins.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Yes, he averaged 4.5 yards per carry when you just
- 2:52Speaker 3: look at the numbers. But, man, he was not explosive
- 2:55Speaker 3: outside of that first play from the line of scrimmage.
- 2:57Speaker 3: I think he's trying to press too hard. I think
- 3:00Speaker 3: the linemen are really, really trying to force that run game.
- 3:03Speaker 3: But it's going to get there, boys. It takes time.
- 3:06Speaker 3: It takes time to put a whole engine together. And
- 3:09Speaker 3: that run game is a big piece of this Broncos engine.
- 3:11Speaker 8: Ryan, if you've got the guys inside that room who
- 3:14Speaker 8: think their position group is pretty good and maybe they're
- 3:16Speaker 8: not the reason that things aren't really motivated and going
- 3:20Speaker 8: right now, At the deadline, do they look around and go, hey, man,
- 3:24Speaker 8: maybe we should go trade for this guy? What's the
- 3:26Speaker 8: feeling inside the room to try to get better, or
- 3:28Speaker 8: do they think like you just said, hey, man, we
- 3:31Speaker 8: got the team that can win. We're already 7-2. These
- 3:33Speaker 8: are our guys.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Well, you think it's, hey, these are our guys. You're
- 3:37Speaker 3: hoping that guys don't get traded. I mean, just look
- 3:39Speaker 3: at your show. Somebody got traded today. Would it be
- 3:42Speaker 3: great for them?
- 3:42Speaker 9: Maybe.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Would it suck for everyone on the show? Absolutely, right?
- 3:46Speaker 3: So you've built some chemistry here in Denver. I mean,
- 3:49Speaker 3: I do think There is a couple positions you could improve.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Could you get a left guard? I mean, that was
- 3:54Speaker 3: something where when the Quinton Nelson deal, you're just like, man,
- 4:00Speaker 3: where were the Broncos in that conversation, right? But at
- 4:03Speaker 3: the end of the day, you have had to build
- 4:05Speaker 3: a belief if you're the Broncos from before the trade
- 4:08Speaker 3: deadline all the way back to training camp that you're
- 4:10Speaker 3: going to win the Super Bowl with the guys in
- 4:12Speaker 3: the room. And fellas, they can do it. I mean,
- 4:14Speaker 3: they're going to be able to compete for the number
- 4:17Speaker 3: one spot in the entire AFC again. And so you
- 4:21Speaker 3: are very confident in the team that you have in
- 4:22Speaker 3: that locker room.
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- 4:35Speaker 4: turn to the experts. Let me ask you just a
- 4:37Speaker 4: basic question. Let's say that the offensive line is not
- 4:40Speaker 4: doing a good enough job opening up holes for running
- 4:43Speaker 4: backs and blah, blah, blah. But if you get a
- 4:46Speaker 4: better caliber of running back, what difference does that make?
- 4:49Speaker 4: For example, if the issues in the running game right
- 4:50Speaker 4: now are almost directly offensive line related and you bring
- 4:54Speaker 4: in Jonathan Taylor, does it still change?
- 4:56Speaker 3: It does change because some running backs really create the hole.
- 5:00Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is if you're running
- 5:02Speaker 3: to a wide zone on your left and that running
- 5:05Speaker 3: back puts his foot in the ground at the guard
- 5:07Speaker 3: and to cut back, no one's going to honor that
- 5:10Speaker 3: wide edge versus a guy like Jonathan Taylor knows, Hey,
- 5:13Speaker 3: I'm going to face my shoulders almost parallel to that
- 5:16Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. And I'm going to get out there
- 5:18Speaker 3: to force those running, those linebackers to get across, to
- 5:21Speaker 3: force those defensive linemen to pull off their block a
- 5:24Speaker 3: little bit, to try and get sideways. That's when the
- 5:27Speaker 3: old line pushes the guy even deeper into the linebacker.
- 5:30Speaker 3: You get to the second level, you cut back at
- 5:32Speaker 3: the numbers or right where out the tackle was to
- 5:35Speaker 3: start the play and and now you're going upfield. J.K.
- 5:37Speaker 3: Dobbins has not stretched the field that way. He's a
- 5:40Speaker 3: powerful runner, and he's somebody who, if you look, has
- 5:43Speaker 3: been running into the back of his linemen a lot.
- 5:45Speaker 3: You do not want to change direction in the backfield,
- 5:48Speaker 3: and you especially don't want to do it while stopping.
- 5:51Speaker 3: versus Jonah Coleman's pressing that hole. That's what they call
- 5:53Speaker 3: pressing that hole. I'm going to stay on this track.
- 5:56Speaker 3: And once it opens, it's either going to open up
- 5:57Speaker 3: front side or backside, but I'm not going to deviate
- 6:00Speaker 3: right when I.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Get the ball.
- 6:01Speaker 3: And so, yes, if you get a guy like Jonathan Taylor,
- 6:03Speaker 3: it drastically changes the run game. It looks different. And
- 6:07Speaker 3: defensive players have to play different because of those threats
- 6:10Speaker 3: to the edge.
- 6:12Speaker 6: Do you anticipate the Broncos making any changes to the
- 6:16Speaker 6: O-line or, Is it fine the way it is? Is
- 6:20Speaker 6: the blocking scheme fine the way it is?
- 6:23Speaker 3: Well, at this point, the blocking scheme is not going
- 6:25Speaker 3: to change. You can't go in and put a whole
- 6:26Speaker 3: new one in. But I do think that with some
- 6:29Speaker 3: rest and some health, you're going to get a refreshed
- 6:32Speaker 3: offensive line. Now, at the same time, guys, this is
- 6:35Speaker 3: the job, right? If you're winding out of gas here
- 6:39Speaker 3: halfway through the year, you're going to play the most
- 6:43Speaker 3: physical and brutal football of the season in January. So
- 6:47Speaker 3: you have to do everything to get ready for that.
- 6:48Speaker 3: But if the opportunity to improve the offensive line is there,
- 6:52Speaker 3: I think the Broncos will take it. I also think
- 6:54Speaker 3: they have one of the best offensive lines statistically outside
- 6:57Speaker 3: of running the football. But it would be interesting as
- 6:59Speaker 3: well to see those attempts and when those attempts are
- 7:02Speaker 3: to see how competitive they actually are when you get
- 7:04Speaker 3: down to it. But this offensive line has been there
- 7:07Speaker 3: for every comeback, boys. You got to ride the horses
- 7:10Speaker 3: that got you there.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Okay, good.
- 7:12Speaker 8: But when you look around the league, the Jaguars are
- 7:15Speaker 8: going all in here. Like, they just picked up three pieces, man.
- 7:18Speaker 8: They're like, we're going to solidify ourselves. Is there any urgency,
- 7:23Speaker 8: you think, to try and keep up with the Joneses?
- 7:26Speaker 3: You cannot keep up with the Joneses. You know, we
- 7:29Speaker 3: had Michael Phelps, the Olympic swimmer. We all remember, I
- 7:32Speaker 3: don't even know what country that guy was from. He
- 7:34Speaker 3: was trying to beat Michael Phelps, and then all of
- 7:36Speaker 3: a sudden he was looking in the race at Michael Phelps,
- 7:38Speaker 3: who was just kicking his butt by focusing on winning.
- 7:40Speaker 3: You can't focus on the Jaguars. You've been to playoffs
- 7:44Speaker 3: more times than they have in the last two years.
- 7:46Speaker 3: So you can't concern yourself with what other teams are doing.
- 7:49Speaker 3: You've got to believe in what you're doing and your roster.
- 7:53Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what else, guys. I mean, you
- 7:55Speaker 3: tell me. can we get a more dynamic position than
- 7:59Speaker 3: what Marvin Mims has been giving us? I love Marvin Mims.
- 8:02Speaker 3: He's a fantastic person in addition to a player. But
- 8:05Speaker 3: Pat Bryant was going off, right, last week. You know,
- 8:08Speaker 3: you had other guys, Troy Franklin, going off. So I
- 8:12Speaker 3: don't know, man. I do think you need some more dynamic.
- 8:14Speaker 3: With your roster, Mims is an excellent punt returner, but
- 8:17Speaker 3: he can do three things, the go route, the jet sweep,
- 8:20Speaker 3: and return that punt for you. I think you can
- 8:22Speaker 3: get some more dynamic play out of that player.
- 8:26Speaker 5: Ryan Harris with us.
- 8:26Speaker 4: Just a quick aside question because I was watching the
- 8:29Speaker 4: game last night and Minnesota's defense incredible, but they have
- 8:33Speaker 4: nothing at quarterback right now. Is it possible for a
- 8:36Speaker 4: team midseason, like let's say they trade for somebody today,
- 8:40Speaker 4: which I'm sure they're trying to, how difficult is it
- 8:43Speaker 4: for a quarterback to walk into a brand new team,
- 8:45Speaker 4: brand new offense, brand new system midseason and have success?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Well, tremendously, especially when you walk into that room and
- 8:52Speaker 3: the two other quarterbacks are demoralized. I mean, what does
- 8:55Speaker 3: that quarterback room look like at the Vikings? I mean,
- 8:58Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's not motivated, not tall. Carson Wentz, you know,
- 9:03Speaker 3: can't get it done. I mean, are you trading for
- 9:05Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins again? For goodness sakes.
- 9:08Speaker 5: Do the Raiders want to?
- 9:09Speaker 2: I was just thinking that.
- 9:11Speaker 3: If I'm the Minnesota Vikings, I go and get Tampa
- 9:15Speaker 3: Bay's Jalen Daniels. Jalen Daniels. He was the quarterback that
- 9:20Speaker 3: beat the Cowboys on the road on a short week.
- 9:23Speaker 3: I mean, that kid can play. I think you go
- 9:26Speaker 3: get him, man. Or go trade for Shadur. Force that
- 9:30Speaker 3: issue over there. The best GMs force an issue. And
- 9:34Speaker 3: I think there's enough quarterbacks between Deshaun Watson, Shadur Sanders,
- 9:37Speaker 3: and Jalen Daniels that you're going to be able to
- 9:39Speaker 3: find a quarterback. And if I'm the Vikings, Jalen Daniels
- 9:42Speaker 3: is the guy I'm going after.
- 9:44Speaker 7: Brett, ask Ryan your question about the state of college football.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Oh, here's the thought that I had because I saw
- 9:50Speaker 4: that the executive director of the college football playoff basically
- 9:54Speaker 4: said this.
- 9:54Speaker 5: We know that you guys don't want to go to
- 9:56Speaker 5: 24 teams.
- 9:57Speaker 2: We hear you.
- 9:57Speaker 5: We're doing it anyway. And I just thought.
- 10:00Speaker 4: For years, college football fans have been force fed things
- 10:04Speaker 4: that they don't like. You know, rivalry games go away.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Conference realignment, not a huge fan of expanding the playoff.
- 10:10Speaker 5: Now expanding it again.
- 10:12Speaker 4: NIL rules, transfer rules, all these different things that it
- 10:15Speaker 4: feels like college football fans haven't liked is now being
- 10:18Speaker 4: force fed to them. I know college football is not
- 10:21Speaker 4: going anywhere. I know people are still going to watch.
- 10:23Speaker 4: My question is, is this the way you should be
- 10:25Speaker 4: treating your consumers of your product, though?
- 10:28Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Nor the employees of that product. How does
- 10:34Speaker 3: going 24 games, how does that protect the student athlete?
- 10:39Speaker 7: Anybody?
- 10:39Speaker 3: Bueller?
- 10:41Speaker 7: Bueller? Okay. Are you playing the student-athlete game with me?
- 10:44Speaker 7: Are you playing the student-athlete game with me? Come on, Ryan.
- 10:47Speaker 7: Not everybody's like you in college. Come on.
- 10:49Speaker 6: You know the bulk of these players are not student-athletes.
- 10:52Speaker 6: There was a player from Miami that's in his eighth year.
- 10:55Speaker 7: What's he studying?
- 10:56Speaker 3: How can you be a student-athlete? You got 24 playoff teams.
- 11:01Speaker 3: You got a zero week start now. Do you think
- 11:04Speaker 3: the teachers care if you've got a game when you
- 11:07Speaker 3: got a test?
- 11:07Speaker 8: No.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Do you think your coach changes practice because you got
- 11:10Speaker 3: a test?
- 11:11Speaker 8: No.
- 11:11Speaker 3: But look, college football is here to stay. They are
- 11:14Speaker 3: going to maximize whatever value they can find. And it's
- 11:18Speaker 3: absolutely shocking. Now, to me, guys, I think we have
- 11:21Speaker 3: to make some improvements like. If you gamble on a
- 11:24Speaker 3: college sports team of any sport, those teams get a
- 11:27Speaker 3: portion of the bet or the winnings, period. It could
- 11:30Speaker 3: be a dollar. But, I mean, you've got people betting
- 11:33Speaker 3: millions of dollars every weekend on this product. And the
- 11:36Speaker 3: people at the NCAA who clearly have not been hit
- 11:39Speaker 3: in the field of play of football want to expand
- 11:42Speaker 3: to 24 games because they just want more money. and
- 11:44Speaker 3: more money because they're seeing what sports entertainment's building, and
- 11:47Speaker 3: they want a piece of it as much as they can.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Who's watching the 24-16 matchup in football? Get out of here.
- 11:55Speaker 7: Yeah, but the state of college football, the debate we
- 11:58Speaker 7: had earlier, is I think college football is as popular
- 12:01Speaker 7: as it's ever been right now.
- 12:02Speaker 3: 100%.
- 12:03Speaker 7: Rivalries are gone. It sucks.
- 12:05Speaker 6: But if you go to games and you find– now,
- 12:09Speaker 6: not every college football program because– There are programs, somebody
- 12:13Speaker 6: just texted the show saying they watch religiously.
- 12:16Speaker 7: He's a Wyoming fan. Well, yeah, because Wyoming's screwed. Yeah,
- 12:20Speaker 7: you're screwed. I don't know what to tell you.
- 12:22Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know what to tell you, but
- 12:24Speaker 6: there are certain programs now that are screwed. And I
- 12:26Speaker 6: wish I could help you because that sucks because there's
- 12:29Speaker 6: history and tradition there. That's the part that really troubles
- 12:32Speaker 6: me is what do you do with these programs that
- 12:34Speaker 6: are the have-nots that can't get in that.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Circle, Ryan?
- 12:37Speaker 3: Well, they've done it to themselves, right? I mean, CU, CSU,
- 12:41Speaker 3: how the hell do you stop that game?
- 12:43Speaker 2: Period.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Under what world do you stop that game, right? I mean, CU,
- 12:49Speaker 3: they've got a problem too. The Big 12 is just
- 12:51Speaker 3: barely hanging on, boys. So what you're going to see
- 12:54Speaker 3: is you're going to start to see a lot of
- 12:55Speaker 3: Wednesday college football games, things like that. You're going to
- 12:58Speaker 3: see some different things. And the other piece too, I
- 13:01Speaker 3: mean– Vic, you were there. We were 50 feet away
- 13:04Speaker 3: from each other at the game. Why didn't you say hello?
- 13:07Speaker 3: The pregame, I couldn't see you, man. You got to
- 13:09Speaker 3: stand on the bench. The pregame, you tell everybody, Vic,
- 13:12Speaker 3: when that stuff was going around the stadium with those lights,
- 13:15Speaker 3: I've never seen that before.
- 13:16Speaker 6: It was the most electric atmosphere I've ever seen.
- 13:19Speaker 3: And so that's the other piece. I mean, I've called
- 13:21Speaker 3: the game at Virginia Tech. They play enter the Sandman
- 13:24Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, and they've got lights off. what's
- 13:26Speaker 3: your thing at the stadium you got to give a
- 13:28Speaker 3: better experience to the fans right at the game that
- 13:30Speaker 3: includes bringing kids onto the onto the field giving them
- 13:34Speaker 3: opportunities and also lowering the price of a ticket my
- 13:36Speaker 3: goodness I and.
- 13:38Speaker 6: That's why I've been arguing with Brett this morning because
- 13:40Speaker 6: he he came across as if college football is suffering
- 13:43Speaker 6: it's not suffering at all but Vic.
- 13:45Speaker 4: It's not can I be clear I didn't say that
- 13:47Speaker 4: college football was going anywhere or it's gonna like poof,
- 13:51Speaker 4: go away. All I'm saying is, for years, college football
- 13:55Speaker 4: has been rooted in, like, one thing, and that's been
- 13:57Speaker 4: the big thing for them, which is tradition.
- 13:59Speaker 5: It's nostalgia. It's the matchups that you had. It's the
- 14:01Speaker 5: rivalry games.
- 14:02Speaker 4: And I think an aspect of this, just another sort
- 14:07Speaker 4: of drop in the bucket, is they expanded 24, no
- 14:09Speaker 4: more conference championship games.
- 14:11Speaker 5: I think that's something that people hate.
- 14:12Speaker 4: I think that teams really like the idea of having
- 14:15Speaker 4: conference championship weekend.
- 14:16Speaker 6: And I disagree with you. I think conference championship games are...
- 14:19Speaker 6: What does it matter anymore? The goal isn't the conference championship.
- 14:23Speaker 6: The goal is the CFP championship.
- 14:26Speaker 7: You have to.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Change your goals. Now, I do agree with that, because
- 14:29Speaker 3: if you think about it, you know, a lot of teams,
- 14:32Speaker 3: if you have a if you're number one going into
- 14:34Speaker 3: that championship game. you're playing one of the toughest games
- 14:37Speaker 3: of the season right at the end. And does it matter?
- 14:41Speaker 3: I mean, will you drop out?
- 14:42Speaker 8: No.
- 14:43Speaker 3: I mean, I think we saw this, what was it
- 14:44Speaker 3: a couple of years ago with Georgia and Alabama, one
- 14:46Speaker 3: of those two one in the, in the sec championship game.
- 14:49Speaker 3: But at the same time, that's what we love. I
- 14:52Speaker 3: love watching the Dr. Pepper sec championship game. I don't
- 14:55Speaker 3: know why I couldn't tell you. And, and so it's
- 14:58Speaker 3: like watching the Rose bowl. So you got to remember though, uh,
- 15:02Speaker 3: The NCAA has done this to itself. They have restricted–
- 15:06Speaker 3: multiple teams have stopped doing rivalry games, and it hasn't
- 15:08Speaker 3: been in just the last five years. Multiple teams are
- 15:12Speaker 3: trying to get to less conference games, and then you've
- 15:14Speaker 3: got strange start times. I mean, what time did that
- 15:17Speaker 3: Arizona State game kick off last week? My goodness. It
- 15:20Speaker 3: was like 9.30 Pacific time.
- 15:23Speaker 6: At the end of the day, Ryan, and everybody, listen
- 15:25Speaker 6: to me. At the end of the day, there are
- 15:27Speaker 6: 138 Division I football programs. It is impossible to keep
- 15:33Speaker 6: everyone happy. Parody at that number is impossible. You're not
- 15:39Speaker 6: going to achieve that. You know, if you're in the
- 15:41Speaker 6: NFL and you have 32 teams, if you're in the small, okay,
- 15:44Speaker 6: but you're dealing with 138 teams, different parts of the country.
- 15:50Speaker 6: And here we are trying to achieve parity.
- 15:53Speaker 7: Good luck.
- 15:54Speaker 3: We've got it. We've got the most parity we ever had.
- 15:56Speaker 3: I mean, Kentucky was top 10 for the first time
- 15:58Speaker 3: since when?
- 15:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Since the prohibition? I mean, come on, dog. I mean,
- 16:03Speaker 3: you've got Ole Miss hanging in there still. Where did
- 16:06Speaker 3: UCLA come from?
- 16:08Speaker 2: Right?
- 16:08Speaker 3: I mean, come on. I mean, the parity is there,
- 16:10Speaker 3: but to your point, like, Team 70 through 120, it's
- 16:14Speaker 3: never been there. Nobody knows where Abilene Christian is. But
- 16:16Speaker 3: I do know a couple players that have come out of.
- 16:18Speaker 7: There, right?
- 16:19Speaker 3: But you're going to have parity. We've had the best
- 16:22Speaker 3: we've had so far with all the different teams that
- 16:24Speaker 3: are in the mix. I mean, it's not going pretty
- 16:26Speaker 3: easy for Lane Kiffin. They have a must win this weekend, right?
- 16:30Speaker 3: So the parity is there, but I think we have
- 16:33Speaker 3: to be honest. We really don't care about the bottom
- 16:35Speaker 3: half of Division I teams anymore. And in that way,
- 16:38Speaker 3: it's kind of like European soccer. They've been relegated. You know, okay, Minnesota,
- 16:42Speaker 3: way to go, P.J. Fleck. Do it against Ohio State
- 16:44Speaker 3: before you come back to the big league.
- 16:46Speaker 6: Ryan, how did we survive all those years without scoreboard, fireworks,
- 16:51Speaker 6: and music during commercials?
- 16:53Speaker 3: I just told someone. I said, I brought someone new
- 16:55Speaker 3: to Notre Dame. I said, you would not believe the
- 16:58Speaker 3: uproar of putting in a big screen. And by the way,
- 17:01Speaker 3: by the way, you need another one on the other side,
- 17:04Speaker 3: right on that northeast side. And let me tell you, boys.
- 17:07Speaker 3: I mean, there's a Under Armour and a Peacock logo there.
- 17:11Speaker 3: They're missing about $ 200 million in sponsorship. Where's the Allstate
- 17:16Speaker 3: on the field? I don't care. Where is the cars.com
- 17:21Speaker 3: at the 20-yard line on the numbers? They are wasting money,
- 17:24Speaker 3: not promoting what you can with your corporate sponsorships on
- 17:28Speaker 3: the field. You've got to get there, too.
- 17:30Speaker 4: I went to a Notre Dame game years ago. I'm
- 17:33Speaker 4: trying to figure out exactly when it was, but it
- 17:34Speaker 4: was before they put in the scoreboard. And all I
- 17:36Speaker 4: thought to myself was.
- 17:39Speaker 5: Can you make it easier on me?
- 17:40Speaker 4: I know you don't like your nostalgia thing, like I'm
- 17:42Speaker 4: walking into a 1930s game.
- 17:44Speaker 5: Can I get a scoreboard? What's the score?
- 17:47Speaker 3: People turned their back on the university. Ask Vic.
- 17:51Speaker 7: It's true.
- 17:51Speaker 3: People are like, I'm never going to a football game
- 17:54Speaker 3: because they put a screen in. Meanwhile, Purdue had one
- 17:58Speaker 3: when I was in college in 2006. Hyping up their guys.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Brett Cain with the big Boilermaker hammer.
- 18:05Speaker 7: And music. People love that.
- 18:07Speaker 6: You have to understand, this is one of the last
- 18:08Speaker 6: institutions that actually piped in music they refused because they
- 18:11Speaker 6: thought they were bigger than that. We're too traditional. They
- 18:14Speaker 6: didn't do any of that. They didn't do any of that.
- 18:17Speaker 6: During timeouts, you would look at the band and say,
- 18:20Speaker 6: great band. Now it's like a normal game.
- 18:23Speaker 7: It's unreal.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Well, Ryan, we always appreciate the time. Thanks for joining us, buddy.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Have fun this victory week, boys.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Enjoy it.
- 18:30Speaker 8: I could sit here and talk Notre Dame football all day.
- 18:33Speaker 8: How about if I call you during the break?
- 18:36Speaker 3: Vic, that's him telling us he wants us to bring
- 18:39Speaker 3: him next time. We'll bring you next year, Moes. Auburn game.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Let's go, Moes.
- 18:43Speaker 7: If you had been there, you'd be talking it up
- 18:45Speaker 7: like it's no problem.
- 18:46Speaker 5: I'm sure it was a blast.
- 18:47Speaker 8: You know what?
- 18:48Speaker 9: I would.
- 18:48Speaker 3: He'd be crying telling the story.
- 18:49Speaker 2: I would.
- 18:50Speaker 7: I saw Rudy.
- 18:51Speaker 8: I really saw him. Listen, I love college football. I
- 18:55Speaker 8: love the pomp and circumstance, the venues. I probably would cry, yes.
- 18:58Speaker 5: Ryan, you're the best, buddy. Thank you.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Love you, buddy. Peace.
- 19:01Speaker 5: Ryan Harris joins us every single week back after this.
- 19:03Speaker 10: Shepard back on top over to Durant. Durant goes to
- 19:06Speaker 10: the right hand, and he throws it away. Christian's got
- 19:08Speaker 10: a breakaway. He leans in, got fouled on his way
- 19:12Speaker 10: to the.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Rim by Reed Shepard. Three-throw number one. No good, so
- 19:18Speaker 2: that's why it's a good foul by Reed Shepard.
- 19:20Speaker 10: Now, if he misses this one, you get a Whataburger
- 19:24Speaker 10: if you're in Houston. Oh, let my people eat! Second
- 19:30Speaker 10: one is no good. Rebound down to Durant.
- 19:38Speaker 4: That was one fun spot from last night. Hey, did
- 19:43Speaker 4: you guys know that $ 10.
- 19:45Speaker 5: Just real quick here, Moshe.
- 19:46Speaker 4: $ 10 doesn't get you a lot anymore these days.
- 19:48Speaker 5: I mean, we all know, right? This economy. Dow Jones! NASDAQ!
- 19:55Speaker 5: But on Tuesdays, it'll get you any large pizza from
- 19:57Speaker 5: Papa Murphy's. It's a $ 10 Tuesday. Order at PapaMurphy's.com. Pick
- 20:00Speaker 5: it up. Bake it fresh at home.
- 20:02Speaker 7: Yeah, Moshe.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Why does it feel like every Tuesday I'm now out
- 20:05Speaker 2: of town?
- 20:06Speaker 8: I can't get me. There ain't no Ain't no Papa
- 20:09Speaker 8: Murphy's here in Toronto, man.
- 20:11Speaker 5: Oh, let my people eat. Here's the thing.
- 20:15Speaker 2: And ask, do yourself a favor. Hang on. Yeah. Ask Vic. Hi, Vic.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Look at me. Yeah. Ask Vic who sings that song.
- 20:27Speaker 2: He'll have no idea. I don't care.
- 20:28Speaker 5: That one's pretty popular. It's Buffett, right?
- 20:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Jimmy Buffett.
- 20:32Speaker 7: He has no idea.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Look at his face. He has no idea. Are you
- 20:35Speaker 2: kidding me?
- 20:36Speaker 5: They named the restaurant after him.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Yeah, he has James Margaritaville. Yes, they named it after him.
- 20:42Speaker 5: No, after the song. After the song. You guys never
- 20:45Speaker 5: been to a cheeseburger in paradise?
- 20:47Speaker 2: Anyway. Oh, let my people eat.
- 20:52Speaker 5: I got a concern here, okay? I was just talking
- 20:55Speaker 5: to Raj during the break.
- 20:56Speaker 4: Because I was like, I need your thoughts on something.
- 21:01Speaker 4: We aren't that far into the season that's the ninth
- 21:04Speaker 4: game of the year. I got a lot of concerns
- 21:08Speaker 4: about what the Nuggets are.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Or what they are not.
- 21:15Speaker 5: You know what, Moshe? Strike that. I take your comment.
- 21:18Speaker 5: What they aren't. I have a concern about what they
- 21:21Speaker 5: are not.
- 21:22Speaker 4: And I think what they are not is a team
- 21:25Speaker 4: that is a West contender.
- 21:29Speaker 5: It just doesn't feel that way. Very top-heavy.
- 21:32Speaker 4: And even in the starting five, I'll tell you directly
- 21:39Speaker 4: what my concern is. Our concern forever has been Aaron Gordon,
- 21:43Speaker 4: whether he can stay healthy. My concern now is Aaron Gordon,
- 21:47Speaker 4: whether he can play to the level that we need
- 21:49Speaker 4: him to. And that is a different scare. It's one
- 21:53Speaker 4: thing to hold your breath like, please, Hammy, don't blow up,
- 21:56Speaker 4: all that different stuff. It's another thing to be at
- 21:58Speaker 4: the point where you're like, does he still got it?
- 22:02Speaker 5: Is it still there? Sorry, one last thing. I made
- 22:06Speaker 5: the comparison to J.K. Dobbins earlier.
- 22:08Speaker 4: Because they felt like the same guy last year. It
- 22:10Speaker 4: was a necessary piece for your success, that guy being
- 22:13Speaker 4: in the lineup and being healthy. But you were scared
- 22:15Speaker 4: you couldn't trust him to stay healthy. This year, I'm wondering,
- 22:19Speaker 4: if J.K. Dobbins can stay healthy or not, does he
- 22:21Speaker 4: have the ability still? And I'm starting to question that
- 22:24Speaker 4: with A.G., and that's terrifying me.
- 22:26Speaker 8: Yeah, it's one of those, the great boss Spearman once said,
- 22:30Speaker 8: now there's justice and there's vengeance, and then there's two
- 22:32Speaker 8: different things. There's, hey man, can he stay healthy and
- 22:37Speaker 8: so you can win versus, hey, can the guy just
- 22:42Speaker 8: even get there anymore?
- 22:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:44Speaker 8: On a consistent basis. He can have one-off games and
- 22:47Speaker 8: that sort of thing, but Vic, you know how much
- 22:49Speaker 8: I love A.G.? I mean, I absolutely adore that guy.
- 22:53Speaker 8: I love everything about him. I love how hard he's worked.
- 22:57Speaker 8: I love his brain. I love his ability when he's
- 22:59Speaker 8: really on. It's just that I'm getting to the place
- 23:02Speaker 8: where Brett is, where there's actual fear in my heart
- 23:06Speaker 8: that he's just not the same dude anymore and that
- 23:08Speaker 8: dude ain't coming back. And that's a scary, that is
- 23:11Speaker 8: a scary place for me to be.
- 23:13Speaker 7: Well, I hope there still remains in there.
- 23:17Speaker 6: I never thought I would hope for this. I never
- 23:20Speaker 6: thought I would say this. But it's my only hope
- 23:23Speaker 6: is that maybe there's something that's bothering him physically that
- 23:27Speaker 6: he's sorting through, that he's getting through, that he's trying
- 23:30Speaker 6: to work out. And then once he does, he'll get
- 23:32Speaker 6: back to what he is. But I don't see that pop.
- 23:36Speaker 7: You know that pop?
- 23:38Speaker 2: Yep.
- 23:40Speaker 5: I'll tell you where I think it's gone missing. I've
- 23:44Speaker 5: mentioned this before. I give A.G.
- 23:47Speaker 4: A ton of credit for at this point in his career,
- 23:50Speaker 4: he has turned himself into a three-point shooter. Now, numbers
- 23:56Speaker 4: aren't great this year, but we've seen it. Like, he
- 23:58Speaker 4: shot 44% a couple years ago from three. That is
- 24:01Speaker 4: elite three-point shooting. I almost feel like that's come at
- 24:05Speaker 4: the expense of what his game should be centered around,
- 24:09Speaker 4: which is the inside part.
- 24:10Speaker 2: The cutting.
- 24:11Speaker 5: The dunking. The bully ball.
- 24:12Speaker 8: What I'm trying to tell you is I don't know
- 24:15Speaker 8: that he's that guy anymore.
- 24:16Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying.
- 24:18Speaker 5: He's shooting less than 40% from the field this year.
- 24:23Speaker 2: That is correct.
- 24:23Speaker 8: But I just don't know that his body, and either
- 24:25Speaker 8: it's a real thing with his body, or it's a
- 24:28Speaker 8: psychological thing with his brain and his body. He doesn't behave,
- 24:32Speaker 8: and he doesn't play the same game he played four
- 24:35Speaker 8: years ago.
- 24:36Speaker 2: He just doesn't.
- 24:37Speaker 8: Now, you may say that that's what the Nuggets really
- 24:41Speaker 8: need is his old game, and I would agree with you.
- 24:44Speaker 8: But again, why I'm throwing it to Vic here is
- 24:46Speaker 8: I'm just not sure we're going to get that anymore.
- 24:48Speaker 8: Watching these guys pass up opportunities and pass up shots
- 24:52Speaker 8: to defer to just the two All-Stars, you can't have
- 24:55Speaker 8: that and expect to win on a consistent basis.
- 24:57Speaker 2: You just can't. So maybe there comes a time when
- 24:59Speaker 2: you've got to experiment.
- 25:01Speaker 8: Maybe one of the kids goes into the starting rotation,
- 25:03Speaker 8: you bring him off, and you limit his minutes so
- 25:05Speaker 8: he's not playing 30 a night, so that he's playing
- 25:08Speaker 8: maybe 20 or 22, and then his body can react
- 25:12Speaker 8: in a positive way. I don't know what the answer is, Vic.
- 25:14Speaker 8: I really have no idea. I'm just trying to find
- 25:16Speaker 8: something here that's going to salve the wound.
- 25:18Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I'm doing.
- 25:23Speaker 4: With each year that we get removed from the championship season,
- 25:28Speaker 4: And the numbers and the dollars that you're paying to
- 25:31Speaker 4: the guys that got you the championship has put you
- 25:33Speaker 4: in a cap-restricted place, right?
- 25:35Speaker 2: A bind.
- 25:36Speaker 8: Bind.
- 25:36Speaker 4: So with each year that we get removed from that,
- 25:40Speaker 4: the depth of this team has taken a hit. Out
- 25:43Speaker 4: goes KCP. Out goes Michael Porter Jr. Out goes this guy.
- 25:47Speaker 4: Out goes Peyton Watson. You know what I mean? Like,
- 25:49Speaker 4: each year it just feels like one piece of something
- 25:52Speaker 4: you've relied upon has left, which puts more stress.
- 25:55Speaker 5: On the people at the top, right?
- 25:57Speaker 4: Now you become even more top-heavy in a sense of
- 25:59Speaker 4: these guys need to produce. Well, what happens when the
- 26:02Speaker 4: top-heavy nature of your team has pieces that aren't producing
- 26:06Speaker 4: to the level that are necessary?
- 26:08Speaker 7: I'm not going crazy here because I sort of saw
- 26:14Speaker 7: this coming.
- 26:16Speaker 2: No, you did. You did.
- 26:18Speaker 7: I'm not losing my, you know what?
- 26:20Speaker 8: We talked at length in the summertime, Vic. You were
- 26:22Speaker 8: very perceptive about this. This might be a step back
- 26:26Speaker 8: year to be able to get to where you need
- 26:27Speaker 8: to be next year and the year beyond.
- 26:29Speaker 7: Listen, and I hate to say this, in November, hopefully
- 26:34Speaker 7: they surprise us. Hopefully things happen. Hopefully things come together.
- 26:37Speaker 7: But I'm not pulling my hair out. I'm not ready
- 26:40Speaker 7: to jump. I'm not ready to do any of that
- 26:42Speaker 7: because things work in cycles, man. And this is where
- 26:46Speaker 7: they are in the cycle.
- 26:48Speaker 8: They.
- 26:49Speaker 6: The CBA put this in. Somebody asked me this yesterday.
- 26:54Speaker 6: Why would they trade Michael Porter Jr.? Why would they
- 26:57Speaker 6: do that?
- 26:58Speaker 7: Well, you tell me. Why did they do that motion?
- 27:00Speaker 2: Because they had to.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Why did they have to?
- 27:05Speaker 8: Because they couldn't afford. They couldn't go into the tax.
- 27:07Speaker 8: They couldn't go into that second apron anymore. Or they
- 27:09Speaker 8: couldn't do it, period.
- 27:11Speaker 7: The CBA has forced teams to do things.
- 27:12Speaker 2: It's so prohibitive.
- 27:13Speaker 6: Yeah, it's forced teams to do things that they did
- 27:16Speaker 6: not want to do. It set up a domino effect. Now,
- 27:22Speaker 6: there are some deals that they've done in that five,
- 27:25Speaker 6: six-year span that don't make any sense that we can
- 27:27Speaker 6: get into.
- 27:27Speaker 2: I get it.
- 27:28Speaker 7: You know, moving up in the draft and giving up
- 27:30Speaker 7: four picks in the process. I get it.
- 27:32Speaker 6: There are things that were done. But disassembling your team
- 27:37Speaker 6: when they did is something that was caused by financial issues.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Correct.
- 27:42Speaker 6: More than anything. And not even financial because they still
- 27:45Speaker 6: have the highest– they pay the most money right now.
- 27:47Speaker 2: In the NBA.
- 27:48Speaker 5: There's– currently still a second apron team, right?
- 27:51Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. But they're going to get out of that.
- 27:53Speaker 7: It's going to happen. They're not going to live in
- 27:55Speaker 7: that second apron. It would be prohibitively stupid to live there.
- 27:59Speaker 8: And before the fans say, well, why they can afford
- 28:03Speaker 8: to live in the second apron, nobody in this league
- 28:08Speaker 8: lives in the second apron.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Period. End of story. You can't afford it.
- 28:12Speaker 8: Not only is it just ridiculously expensive and the taxes
- 28:16Speaker 8: on it are insane, but It is so prohibitive to
- 28:20Speaker 8: a team to be able to do anything. I mean,
- 28:24Speaker 8: any move whatsoever when you're in the second apron, you
- 28:27Speaker 8: just can't do because of the rules.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Nobody lives there.
- 28:30Speaker 8: Hell, the Boston Celtics, they win a championship, and the
- 28:33Speaker 8: owner says, adios, thank you, got my ring.
- 28:36Speaker 2: I'm out of here.
- 28:37Speaker 8: Blew the whole team up and sold the damn team
- 28:40Speaker 8: because they couldn't do it, Vic. I mean, it works
- 28:43Speaker 8: that way for everybody in the entire league, so don't bring.
- 28:46Speaker 2: That to me.
- 28:46Speaker 7: Somebody writes in, it's not even a step back, though.
- 28:48Speaker 7: They're not making moves to improve their future. I want
- 28:54Speaker 7: you to take on the role of GM. What moves
- 28:57Speaker 7: do you make necessarily to improve your future outside of
- 29:00Speaker 7: selling off everything?
- 29:02Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you. To that texture's point, though,
- 29:06Speaker 4: it's easier to stomach... taking a step back if you
- 29:11Speaker 4: have light at the end of the tunnel on how
- 29:14Speaker 4: it's going to get better. But taking a step back
- 29:17Speaker 4: and not seeing that light at the end of the
- 29:19Speaker 4: tunnel doesn't make you feel any better.
- 29:20Speaker 7: Well, maybe you don't see what their plan is. Maybe
- 29:23Speaker 7: they don't want you to know their plan.
- 29:24Speaker 6: They haven't announced their plan. Maybe they have a plan.
- 29:27Speaker 6: Do you think it would– let me ask you something.
- 29:29Speaker 6: Do you think it would benefit a franchise to tell
- 29:30Speaker 6: its fan base, hey, everybody, this year we're going to
- 29:34Speaker 6: sort of suck a little bit, but– Do you think
- 29:36Speaker 6: that announcement should have been made?
- 29:37Speaker 5: Oh, hang on.
- 29:39Speaker 9: This.
- 29:40Speaker 5: They're not stupid.
- 29:41Speaker 4: I know they have a plan moving forward, but not
- 29:44Speaker 4: being able to see it right now is just not.
- 29:48Speaker 7: You don't see it.
- 29:49Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 29:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:51Speaker 7: But again, if you make an announcement of what the
- 29:53Speaker 7: plan is, you're telling fans.
- 29:57Speaker 5: No, no, no, Vic, I get it. What I'm saying is.
- 30:02Speaker 5: It would be like being a Chargers fan right now.
- 30:04Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 30:04Speaker 5: They're really bad. And then you're like, okay, we're bad.
- 30:08Speaker 5: So then what?
- 30:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:10Speaker 5: Not seeing the plan moving forward, even though you know
- 30:13Speaker 5: the team has won.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Sure.
- 30:15Speaker 4: It's just as a fan, you're like, well, what is
- 30:18Speaker 4: the suffering I'm doing for then? I want to get
- 30:21Speaker 4: back to the championship level stuff.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Do you think.
- 30:24Speaker 6: A guy like Aaron Gordon, guys like CB, guys that
- 30:27Speaker 6: were the core part of this team that won this
- 30:29Speaker 6: city's very first NBA championship. Do you think they've earned
- 30:34Speaker 6: the right, earned the right by delivering that?
- 30:37Speaker 1: Yes.
- 30:38Speaker 6: To get out of, yeah, to swim their way out
- 30:42Speaker 6: of this, whatever this is.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I used to have this conversation.
- 30:44Speaker 8: I used to have this conversation with Big 50 all
- 30:46Speaker 8: the time about the Broncos. And he goes, listen, Super
- 30:49Speaker 8: Bowl championships by you. credibility they buy you time they buy.
- 30:54Speaker 6: You and they buy you goodwill for for there's got
- 30:57Speaker 6: to be that that's correct where does the goodwill end
- 31:00Speaker 6: that no that's that is that's a Brett.
- 31:03Speaker 2: That's a great question I'll know it when I see
- 31:05Speaker 2: it but I'm going to tell you this right now
- 31:07Speaker 2: when I see.
- 31:08Speaker 6: It I'm going to tell you this right now this
- 31:09Speaker 6: is the truth and most you know if you had
- 31:12Speaker 6: told me in 2000 the year 2005 pick a number
- 31:18Speaker 6: hey I'm gonna get you championship in 23 And you
- 31:23Speaker 6: may not win another one for a while. You might
- 31:26Speaker 6: think you can, but you may not win another one
- 31:28Speaker 6: for a while. You might suffer a little bit. You
- 31:31Speaker 6: might go through a roller coaster. But I'm going to
- 31:33Speaker 6: get you that championship in 23. Yeah, you take it
- 31:35Speaker 6: all day and all night.
- 31:36Speaker 7: Do you know how fast a Nuggets fan would run
- 31:40Speaker 7: to that table and pick up the keys? And I
- 31:44Speaker 7: know you don't want to think that way because everybody
- 31:45Speaker 7: wants to think in terms of dynasties and legacies and
- 31:48Speaker 7: all that. I know that. There's a reason eight different
- 31:51Speaker 7: champions have won.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Eight?
- 31:53Speaker 7: Different champions have won in the NBA.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 4: There's a reason for that.
- 32:00Speaker 5: 303-504-0925. Shop Mazda text line. One price, one person, one hour. Oh,
- 32:03Speaker 5: by the way, next.
- 32:05Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely nothing to do with all that.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Bye.
- 32:08Speaker 7: Anime, Star Wars, Star Trek.
- 32:10Speaker 1: The toilet suddenly shattered and collapsed beneath him. Wait, are
- 32:14Speaker 1: you still driving that Honda? Oh, by the way, with
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- 32:32Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, stories around sports in the world
- 32:35Speaker 4: we feel like you should be aware of.
- 32:36Speaker 5: First of all, Moj, can you do this for me?
- 32:38Speaker 4: Because it is the month of November, and November is
- 32:41Speaker 4: Hockey Fights Cancer Month, which is a huge thing, obviously,
- 32:45Speaker 4: for blood donations and the Avs and Vitalant teaming up together.
- 32:49Speaker 8: They certainly are. To donate blood here in the month
- 32:51Speaker 8: of November, help fight cancer. This is Hockey Fights Cancer Month.
- 32:55Speaker 8: Over 25% of blood donations go directly to cancer patients
- 32:59Speaker 8: and their treatment centers. And everyone who donates, as you
- 33:01Speaker 8: probably heard earlier, everyone who donates automatically entered to win
- 33:05Speaker 8: a 26-27 Avalanche team signed stick or a Josh Manson
- 33:08Speaker 8: signed stick. So go to Vitalant.org forward slash Hockey Fights
- 33:13Speaker 8: Cancer and get on that because there's not one person watching, listening,
- 33:17Speaker 8: or personally affected by this insidious disease.
- 33:20Speaker 2: So please try to take care of it.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Go ahead, Moshe.
- 33:23Speaker 7: You start.
- 33:24Speaker 2: Okay.
- 33:26Speaker 8: Vic, I'm glad you're back. 51 years ago today, something happened.
- 33:30Speaker 8: Do you recall what that was?
- 33:32Speaker 7: Hold on a second. That would be 51 years ago.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Today. I have no idea. Do you want to hit?
- 33:44Speaker 2: I know what it is. The story it's told from
- 33:45Speaker 2: the Chippewa on down. Nellie, hit it.
- 33:47Speaker 9: All right. Make the call, get your goomy. Never gives
- 34:01Speaker 9: up her dead. November turned gloomy.
- 34:05Speaker 7: Nellie, Nellie, get off the air. Nellie, take your picture
- 34:07Speaker 7: off the air. Let him fill this time. Nellie, let
- 34:10Speaker 7: him fill this time.
- 34:12Speaker 6: Turn off the music.
- 34:19Speaker 8: 51 years ago today, ladies and gentlemen, the wreck of
- 34:21Speaker 8: the Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior. It's amazing that ship
- 34:25Speaker 8: went down. Not a distress call, nothing. They don't know
- 34:29Speaker 8: how it sank. It's just a sad story, but it's
- 34:32Speaker 8: also an emotional one because Gordon Lightfoot wrote a brilliant
- 34:36Speaker 8: song about it, 29 Souls.
- 34:41Speaker 2: All right, are we back?
- 34:43Speaker 7: Yeah. All right, cool.
- 34:46Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, so let me ask you guys
- 34:49Speaker 5: a question.
- 34:50Speaker 2: You can't tell me you don't like that song. Don't
- 34:52Speaker 2: be a jerk about it. You know. You know.
- 34:54Speaker 5: I read something from Mike Silver. Vic, jump back on here, please.
- 34:59Speaker 4: Is this a guy that just wants to have a
- 35:01Speaker 4: sight set for the future, or is this real, you think?
- 35:05Speaker 5: Mike Silver says this. Remember, when Jack Campbell.
- 35:08Speaker 4: Was carted off, he had the neck spine injury.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very scary.
- 35:15Speaker 4: So he had movement in his legs, but... He's struggling
- 35:20Speaker 4: to move his upper body. That's getting better, I suppose.
- 35:23Speaker 4: Not a lot of updates coming from this. Mike Silver said,
- 35:26Speaker 4: people in the Lions building reportedly believe Jack Campbell is
- 35:30Speaker 4: coming back to play this season.
- 35:32Speaker 7: Wow.
- 35:35Speaker 5: Is that a.
- 35:36Speaker 4: Guy who went through a traumatic thing that needs a
- 35:39Speaker 4: goal in mind?
- 35:40Speaker 5: Or do you think this is real?
- 35:43Speaker 4: Because I can't imagine if I had that kind of
- 35:45Speaker 4: injury that I would just come back and play a
- 35:47Speaker 4: few weeks later.
- 35:50Speaker 5: You know what.
- 35:52Speaker 8: I mean?
- 35:53Speaker 2: Dude, it was scary. It happened in Buffalo. When you
- 35:56Speaker 2: saw him on the field, dude, it was scary.
- 35:58Speaker 7: And he's playing to this day. The guy in Buffalo
- 36:00Speaker 7: is playing football today.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't a spine, Vic. That was a heart thing.
- 36:04Speaker 3: He almost died.
- 36:05Speaker 2: He was dead.
- 36:07Speaker 5: He actually did die.
- 36:08Speaker 7: He died.
- 36:10Speaker 5: All I'm saying is.
- 36:12Speaker 4: if you're him though, like I remember this happened, look,
- 36:15Speaker 4: not to compare these things, but just as an example,
- 36:18Speaker 4: when I took a 92 mile an hour fastball off
- 36:20Speaker 4: my helmet that almost hit me in the face and
- 36:22Speaker 4: I stepped.
- 36:22Speaker 5: In the batter's box, my next at bat, I was horrified.
- 36:26Speaker 5: I was absolutely terrified.
- 36:28Speaker 4: And I can't imagine if that happened to me on
- 36:30Speaker 4: a football field that I'm not in the back of
- 36:32Speaker 4: my head thinking about that the next time I go
- 36:34Speaker 4: out there, right?
- 36:34Speaker 5: Wouldn't that just be a natural human thing?
- 36:37Speaker 8: I think it probably would be. I mean, I can't
- 36:39Speaker 8: imagine it wouldn't be. I, I would be terrified, too. Oh,
- 36:42Speaker 8: by the way, Vic, do you have one, or should
- 36:45Speaker 8: I go again? I've got one, but go ahead.
- 36:47Speaker 7: Somebody on the Twitch wonders, which one of you is
- 36:50Speaker 7: breathing so hard into the mic?
- 36:52Speaker 5: That was you. That was you upon re-entering this segment.
- 36:55Speaker 7: Was I doing this?
- 36:56Speaker 4: You had your headphones off, and you were going, I
- 37:00Speaker 4: don't know if you ran up a flight of stairs
- 37:02Speaker 4: on the way back.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Or what? Go ahead. Did you see what happened.
- 37:06Speaker 8: Yesterday with the Philadelphia Flyers in a 3-1 win against Vancouver?
- 37:10Speaker 2: Did not.
- 37:11Speaker 8: Well, their prized young stud, Matvey Michkov, and defenseman Nick
- 37:16Speaker 8: Seeler got in an argument on the bench. Or one
- 37:18Speaker 8: guy was on the bench and one guy was on
- 37:20Speaker 8: the ice, and it was about you're not passing the puck.
- 37:22Speaker 2: You're not doing it.
- 37:23Speaker 8: I mean, shouldn't we see more of that around sports
- 37:26Speaker 8: where two guys in the same team get in a fight,
- 37:29Speaker 8: an argument?
- 37:29Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's what happened.
- 37:33Speaker 8: Maybe it went unnoticed, but Eric Johnson has come on
- 37:35Speaker 8: out and said, look, I got thoughts on this. He goes,
- 37:37Speaker 8: I am going to give you my thoughts. Both guys
- 37:39Speaker 8: are to blame, but I'm going to tell you Flyers
- 37:41Speaker 8: fans aren't going to like it. He laid some groundwork there.
- 37:44Speaker 2: E.J. did the former Flyer.
- 37:47Speaker 7: This just in. Is that the name of the segment?
- 37:49Speaker 8: Yes. Yes.
- 37:50Speaker 2: That's what this is called.
- 37:51Speaker 7: This just in.
- 37:52Speaker 6: Jesse Rogers, who covers MLB for the White Sox and Cubs.
- 37:56Speaker 5: How dare you?
- 37:58Speaker 8: What?
- 37:59Speaker 5: I was going to do this, but go ahead.
- 38:00Speaker 2: I love it.
- 38:01Speaker 7: You know this is my deal. Why would you take mine?
- 38:04Speaker 7: Go ahead.
- 38:04Speaker 5: Go ahead.
- 38:05Speaker 7: You know what I like.
- 38:06Speaker 5: Go ahead.
- 38:06Speaker 7: You know what I like. Go ahead. He reports that
- 38:09Speaker 7: the GM meetings are taking place right now, and the
- 38:12Speaker 7: general manager meetings are a big deal in baseball.
- 38:14Speaker 5: In the MLB, yeah.
- 38:16Speaker 7: So the GM meetings are taking place, and they decided
- 38:19Speaker 7: to hold at these meetings a pickleball tournament.
- 38:23Speaker 6: My favorite sport, pickleball. Guess who won the GM pickleball tournament?
- 38:29Speaker 5: You think the Rockies can't win anything?
- 38:31Speaker 8: We got a championship here in Colorado.
- 38:33Speaker 5: Who says the Rockies can't win, baby?
- 38:35Speaker 7: You'd like that, wouldn't you? This just in from the
- 38:39Speaker 7: GM meeting, the Rockies execs out-dueled the Marlins team to
- 38:45Speaker 7: win the second annual GM meeting pickleball tournament.
- 38:51Speaker 3: It's official, guys.
- 38:53Speaker 4: The Rockies have won the offseason. This just in, or breaking.
- 39:01Speaker 5: News, or whatever term you want to use.
- 39:04Speaker 3: Did you guys see.
- 39:06Speaker 5: What Rory said about DeChambeau, now that live golf is.
- 39:09Speaker 8: I was going to do this one. He's not wrong,
- 39:12Speaker 8: but the way he said it, Rory loves.
- 39:14Speaker 2: To take shots at guys. He loves it. No, no, no.
- 39:16Speaker 5: He loves to take shots at live guys, but he
- 39:18Speaker 5: especially loves to take shots at Bryson.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Correct.
- 39:21Speaker 4: So what did he say about Bryson DeChambeau now that
- 39:22Speaker 4: he's kind of golf homeless? Yeah, I think a name
- 39:26Speaker 4: like Bryson DeChambeau and everything he brings with him, good
- 39:29Speaker 4: and bad, would bring eyeballs to the DP World Tour.
- 39:34Speaker 2: Good and bad.
- 39:35Speaker 8: I guess he's going to play in December in the
- 39:39Speaker 8: tournament in South Africa is DeChambeau.
- 39:42Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, Moshe.
- 39:42Speaker 8: Hang on. Yeah.
- 39:43Speaker 5: Here's another quote.
- 39:45Speaker 4: Honestly, look, I'm certainly not in his shoes and nor
- 39:48Speaker 4: would I ever want to be. But it doesn't seem
- 39:51Speaker 4: like he's got many options. You know, if he wants
- 39:53Speaker 4: to play competitive golf, he doesn't have options. He loves
- 39:59Speaker 4: taking shots.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Oh, he does.
- 40:01Speaker 4: He does.
- 40:01Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, I don't know if you guys,
- 40:04Speaker 6: an outstanding story was written and released yesterday about how
- 40:08Speaker 6: into it Jonte Porter was with this betting stuff.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Oh, I saw that. That's, that's, that's tough.
- 40:14Speaker 6: Some of the detail in this story is remarkable, but
- 40:17Speaker 6: I had no idea this existed except for Peaky Blinders.
- 40:21Speaker 6: In 2022, Jonte owed like $ 160, 000 on a bet he lost,
- 40:26Speaker 6: and he met this dude who's a heavily tattooed fitness influencer.
- 40:31Speaker 7: His name is Johnny Collage. What's so funny?
- 40:39Speaker 5: Just Johnny Collage.
- 40:41Speaker 7: Well, Jonte asked Johnny Collage if he knew any bookies
- 40:43Speaker 7: who would let him bet on credit because he needed
- 40:45Speaker 7: to make up this money. He found these bookies and
- 40:49Speaker 7: he owed them a lot of money. Jonte came to
- 40:52Speaker 7: understand that this would be the Jewish mafia. He was
- 40:57Speaker 7: getting squeezed by the Jewish mafia for money.
- 41:03Speaker 2: In this gambling ring.
- 41:04Speaker 7: Alfie Solomons.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Alfie Solomons.
- 41:05Speaker 7: Exactly. That's the first thing I thought of was Peaky Blinder.
- 41:08Speaker 7: First thing I thought of was Alfie sitting there squeezing
- 41:12Speaker 7: him for this money.
- 41:14Speaker 4: I was trying to find this Johnny Collage guy online
- 41:16Speaker 4: because I have.
- 41:17Speaker 8: To take a look at this character. It was either
- 41:18Speaker 8: go to Johnny Collage or Stevie Decapage. You know, it's
- 41:21Speaker 8: either one of those two guys.
- 41:22Speaker 4: I typed in what I, I didn't know how to
- 41:24Speaker 4: spell Johnny Collage, so I spelled Johnny C-O-L-L-A-G-E.
- 41:29Speaker 5: I don't know how it's spelled. You know what popped
- 41:30Speaker 5: up on Google?
- 41:32Speaker 2: What's that?
- 41:33Speaker 5: I said, oh, were you talking about Johnny Football? Johnny Manziel?
- 41:35Speaker 7: No.
- 41:36Speaker 4: Like Johnny College is what they thought I was trying
- 41:38Speaker 4: to write in? Somebody find Johnny Collage. I need to
- 41:41Speaker 4: get a look at this guy. This tattooed, roided out freak.
- 41:48Speaker 4: You're like, hey man, you look like a shady character.
- 41:52Speaker 4: Can you place money for me?
- 41:58Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 41:59Speaker 5: How do you spell this?
- 42:00Speaker 2: I read that thing and I'm like, whoa.
- 42:01Speaker 5: Vic, how do you spell his name?
- 42:03Speaker 7: You didn't have the spelling correct. It's K-A-L-A-J. Johnny Collage.
- 42:11Speaker 7: Maybe it's pronounced Collage.
- 42:12Speaker 2: I don't know. Collage.
- 42:13Speaker 7: That's how I pronounce it. Dude, some of the detail.
- 42:16Speaker 7: I can't even read this to you.
- 42:18Speaker 5: Come on, dude.
- 42:20Speaker 4: This guy looks like a Jersey Shore guy.
- 42:24Speaker 6: He's a member of the Jewish Mafia.
- 42:29Speaker 5: Oh, my apologies. I didn't mean it.
- 42:31Speaker 2: You better.
- 42:33Speaker 5: My apologies. I didn't mean it. Anyway, that's all, by
- 42:36Speaker 5: the way.
- 42:38Speaker 8: I loved Tom Hardy as Alfie Solomon.
- 42:41Speaker 2: I thought he was brilliant in that series.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Pay that man his money.
- 42:45Speaker 6: Has a new season of Mobland started yet? Can anybody
- 42:50Speaker 6: confirm that? Because he's in that, and it's outstanding.
- 42:54Speaker 2: Yeah, dude is great.
- 42:55Speaker 4: Garage door making some crazy noise? Don't ignore your garage door.
- 42:58Speaker 4: Small problems lead to big problems. Call Don's Garage Doors
- 43:00Speaker 4: for a tune-up today.
- 43:02Speaker 5: Back after this.