Latest / INSPIRE STORY / #0131 _STORY INSPIRE: Decisions that transforman, with Action Bronson
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- 0:03Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
- 0:08by night. All day.
- 0:13Speaker 2: That one brought a smile to my face.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Yeah, all the weird shit that someone's given me. That's
- 0:18at the top. Well, I got this. This is a
- 0:21woolly mammoth tooth that my friend John gave me.
- 0:24Speaker 2: That's fucking ridiculous.
- 0:25Speaker 1: A woolly mammoth tooth with a woolly mammoth carved into it.
- 0:27Speaker 2: That's craziness.
- 0:28Speaker 1: That's crazy, right? That tooth's probably 10,000 years old. No bullshit.
- 0:33Speaker 2: But the balls to carve into it, too.
- 0:35Speaker 1: I know. I would never. I mean, it's beautiful.
- 0:38Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.
- 0:38Speaker 1: The guy did it. He nailed it. I mean, it's
- 0:40a beautiful little elephant there.
- 0:42Speaker 2: That's fucking unbelievable.
- 0:43Speaker 1: But I would never carve into one of these things.
- 0:46Speaker 2: It almost looks like an alligator gar from the side,
- 0:48like a little alligator jaw. Right.
- 0:52Speaker 1: It does a lot. The thing about these teeth, though,
- 0:55is they find so many of them that they don't
- 0:57think of them as precious. So you're allowed to do
- 1:00stuff with them. Like, you could buy a knife with
- 1:04a woolly mammoth handle. Like, this is a piece of
- 1:08woolly mammoth that they make for a gun. So you
- 1:11could put that on a 1911. It's a handle made
- 1:14out of woolly mammoth teeth.
- 1:16Speaker 2: You just have a knife. This is an extra handle?
- 1:18Is this this handle?
- 1:20Speaker 1: It's the pistol.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Or this handle?
- 1:22Speaker 1: It's the pistol handle.
- 1:22Speaker 2: It's the pistol handle.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:24Speaker 1: And this is a piece.
- 1:25Speaker 2: It would make a good handle for this one, too,
- 1:26like the front one for fucking. Oh, okay.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Like if you're holding a sick-ass thing. Sick-ass thing, yeah. Yeah,
- 1:32it definitely could do that, too. I mean, they basically
- 1:35could make anything they want out of it. They make
- 1:37folding knives out of it. Jamie has a folding knife
- 1:40out of it.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Can you make piano keys out of it?
- 1:42Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you definitely could.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Yeah. The woolly mammoth.
- 1:45Speaker 1: They use it for.
- 1:45Speaker 2: The woolly mammoth woolitzer.
- 1:47Speaker 1: You could, right? You definitely could. If you could use ivory,
- 1:50you could use woolly mammoth ivory. Because they use it
- 1:53in pool cues. This is a tooth, too.
- 1:55Speaker 2: I used to have my own pool cue. Unscrewed it.
- 1:59I used to come to the fucking pool hall, unscrew
- 2:02the fucking thing, and get nuts with it. Having a
- 2:05pool cue, you're a different level of human being when
- 2:09you're walking around with that. You're not playing games.
- 2:12Speaker 1: You're not playing games.
- 2:12Speaker 2: You're there to play games, but you're not playing.
- 2:16Speaker 1: It's a very serious thing. It's a cool thing. You
- 2:18show up with your own cue, like in The Hustler.
- 2:21The guy shows up with a leather satchel.
- 2:23Speaker 2: That satchel alone.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:26Speaker 2: It's male accessories. Right. I love a good male accessory. Right.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Like, we don't have a lot.
- 2:32Speaker 2: We have a knife. Yeah. A knife always looks good
- 2:34on the side. A gun. A watch. Watch.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Watch is a good male accessory. It's like. The most
- 2:40acceptable male jewelry.
- 2:41Speaker 2: For sure.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Don't you think?
- 2:42Speaker 2: Watches. I don't want no one with a nose ring.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I don't want to pull up with this one.
- 2:47Speaker 2: The Brahma bull nose ring.
- 2:48Speaker 1: You could pull off gold chains and diamonds and shit
- 2:51because you're a rapper.
- 2:53Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not. No one knows me as that.
- 2:55They know me as a blue collar guy. I don't
- 2:58even look good with jewelry on.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I look silly. I do too. I feel stupid. I
- 3:02never wear a chain. I feel stupid.
- 3:04Speaker 2: I don't own a chain. I had a chain back
- 3:05in the day. It had a little... miniature Tasmanian devil piece.
- 3:11That was the tattoo everybody in high school got. Taz
- 3:13was the first. I want one now. Taz with boxing gloves.
- 3:16For sure. Boxing gloves with the child's name. I have
- 3:19that on my head.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Yeah, my friend Kenny got that. It was his first
- 3:23tattoo when we were in high school. Taz being the
- 3:25devil with a boxing glove, we were all like, sick.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Because we were like 16. Taz was still to this day,
- 3:34like that and barbed wire. If you had barbed wire
- 3:36and Taz.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Dudes went so far with barbed wire, they got barbed
- 3:40wire around their ankle, which is a big mistake.
- 3:44Speaker 2: It was Pamela Anderson with the barbed wire.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Remember that one? Didn't she have it on her ankle?
- 3:48She had it on her arm.
- 3:49Speaker 2: On the arm in that movie.
- 3:50Speaker 1: A lot of dudes had it on the arm. Fairly okay.
- 3:54It's kind of a bad decision, but it's okay. But
- 3:56on the ankle?
- 3:58Speaker 2: Any type of ankle accessory jewelry other than like a surveillance.
- 4:06For me, it doesn't work. My ankle is way too
- 4:10bulk on. It's a thick ass ankle.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
- 4:13Speaker 2: It doesn't hold jewelry well.
- 4:14Speaker 1: No ankle does. No male ankle holds jewelry well. I mean,
- 4:19I don't believe in it. Listen, I'm not telling you
- 4:21what to do. If you're a guy who likes beads
- 4:24on your ankle, feel free.
- 4:25Speaker 2: If I go to Club Med and come back with
- 4:27the braids and the ankle twist, you know, then it's
- 4:30like we're on vacation.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Even on vacation, ankle jewelry is odd for a man.
- 4:36Speaker 2: But, you know, people start acting different when they go
- 4:38on vacation. I have friends that wear different outfits. Shorts
- 4:41get shorter. Shirts get tighter.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Right.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Pieces of clothing just remove themselves.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:48Speaker 2: It's like wearing, I need to wear the Velcro pants
- 4:51to just rip them off.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're on vacation, you just don't want to
- 4:54be yourself for a week.
- 4:55Speaker 2: I feel that.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Just relax. Can I just cut this fucking tie off
- 5:00of me?
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, get that out. I also don't want an agenda.
- 5:04Speaker 3: Right.
- 5:04Speaker 2: I don't want to have like, we're doing this, we're
- 5:06doing that.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like that.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Vacation is not to have a schedule.
- 5:10Speaker 1: I think the schedule should be around eating. Oh. That's
- 5:13what I believe. That's my feeling is like cool ancient things.
- 5:17Like if you're in a cool place like Athens, you know,
- 5:20you definitely got to go seek some cool ancient shit.
- 5:23But get the good grub.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Speaking my language.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Now find the spots.
- 5:28Speaker 2: I was eating some rare scampi right in front of
- 5:31the Pantheon. You know, like there was a beautiful restaurant
- 5:34known for scampi right there. Wow.
- 5:37Speaker 1: That's phenomenal.
- 5:38Speaker 2: I was just recently in Mexico City. At TOT Wakan. Ooh. Oh,
- 5:44my God.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I want to go there. I was in Mexico City
- 5:46only once for the UFC, but it was in and out.
- 5:48It was one day, you know, two days.
- 5:50Speaker 2: I want to live there.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Mexico City's a dope spot, man. I don't go places much.
- 5:54It's a lot of pollution, but there's a lot of-
- 5:55It's New York. It's kind of like a Mexican New York,
- 5:59but bigger. It is.
- 6:00Speaker 2: It's huge.
- 6:00Speaker 1: But bigger. Bigger than New York, right?
- 6:02Speaker 2: There's like 10 million people that live in the place
- 6:04they told us not to go to. They told me, yo, listen.
- 6:07I was like, what the fuck is this massive area here?
- 6:09He's like, yo, don't go there. But 10 million people
- 6:12live there. What is the population of Mexico City? And
- 6:17I was getting that good lung capacity.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Right, if you're working out up there, it's like, I
- 6:21think that's really high above sea level.
- 6:24Speaker 2: It is 10,000.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Is it 10? Mexico City's 10?
- 6:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Boy, what an advantage you would have if you lived
- 6:29up there. And then you go down to sea level,
- 6:31you could fuck everybody up. Your cardio would be off
- 6:33the charts.
- 6:34Speaker 2: I couldn't believe myself.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real, man.
- 6:36Speaker 2: And I was just doing normal things. I wasn't even
- 6:38working out.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Right, exactly. You just feel like you're more blood in
- 6:42you because you do.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Whoa!
- 6:44Speaker 1: Low to mid 20 million people, depending on how you
- 6:47define its boundaries. It's unbelievable.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Wow.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It's also unknown. There's no census that I... Right. It's
- 6:52also very... It's lots of shanty situations as well. Oh,
- 6:57of course. Yeah.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Did a shooting not happen yesterday?
- 7:01Speaker 1: Where?
- 7:01Speaker 3: At Teotihuacan.
- 7:02Speaker 1: No.
- 7:02Speaker 3: What?
- 7:02Speaker 2: Yeah. A shooting.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Oh, I did see something like a... It's just a
- 7:06crazy person, right?
- 7:08Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe so.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Yeah, Teotihuacan, a popular tourist archaeological site outside of Mexico City.
- 7:13Speaker 2: That's where you're not allowed to go. That's the Sun Temple.
- 7:16Speaker 1: You're not allowed to walk up?
- 7:16Speaker 2: You're not allowed to walk down. Like what they're doing?
- 7:19Just to that area and then you can't go up.
- 7:22Speaker 1: And so this guy just started shooting people?
- 7:24Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, wait, you can't go there. He's fucking, he's elevated. Yeah,
- 7:28that's the Sun Temple.
- 7:29Speaker 4: He's there with the gun and there's a bunch of
- 7:30people like laying down on the ground that were like.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus Christ.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Like he's like shooting right at them.
- 7:36Speaker 1: This is crazy. I don't know. He said something to
- 7:39them too. I saw something on Google this morning. He
- 7:42said something to them.
- 7:44Speaker 2: That motherfucker was hopping on one leg. Did you see
- 7:48the hopping? Oh, fuck.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see that.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Just going to go check out some cool buildings and
- 7:55someone shoots your fucking Achilles tendon off?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Bro, that's one of the worst injuries you could probably
- 8:00sustain is an Achilles injury.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Especially with a gunshot. How many people died?
- 8:06Speaker 3: I think one. Seven people were shot. Ugh. One fatally shot.
- 8:14Speaker 1: The story of that area, that place is so insane.
- 8:18I went down this long rabbit hole because I had
- 8:21read something that the Aztecs didn't build that and that
- 8:25they found it there. And they called it the place
- 8:28where gods were born. So then I went on this
- 8:30deep dive on the Aztec people and whoever was there
- 8:35before them. It's a total unknown. There's so much about
- 8:39that area like the Olmecs. They don't– who the fuck
- 8:41were they? They don't know. They just got these giant
- 8:44stone heads that look like they're either Polynesian or African.
- 8:47They're fucking huge heads with a helmet on. And there's
- 8:51a bunch of them. And no one knows who made it.
- 8:53No one knows what language they spoke.
- 8:55Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's truly unbelievable. I know there's one native
- 8:58language that I worked in kitchens my whole life. So
- 9:01they would always joke with me that they were speaking Totonaca.
- 9:04And Totonaca is definitely like a tribe from down there.
- 9:06And it's these mythical curing people like these, the healers.
- 9:12And- We happen to actually, my wife knows a woman
- 9:17from the lineage of that family. It's all just crazy shit.
- 9:20But regardless of that, just the sheer fact of those buildings,
- 9:24I saw with my own eyes, that's not it. There's
- 9:29more underneath. That's not just, it's all surface area shit. Right, right, right.
- 9:33That stuff goes, it runs deep. There's like cities on
- 9:36top of cities on top.
- 9:37Speaker 1: They build them on old ones.
- 9:39Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like you tile the floor. You
- 9:41just leave that bullshit and you just tile right over it.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Well, even when I was in Italy, we were in Ravello.
- 9:47And there's this beautiful church up there. You go for
- 9:49a little walk up the hill. There's a beautiful church,
- 9:51old church, like from the 1800s. But it's built on
- 9:55top of a church that's like a thousand years old
- 9:57and there's a glass floor you could see through to
- 10:00the bottom with the original ruins.
- 10:02Speaker 2: The same thing in mexico city they do that everywhere
- 10:05there was these people making their pilgrimage where they crawl
- 10:07on the floor from fucking hundreds of miles away in
- 10:11jesus's name just to get to the church oh wow
- 10:14i don't know what that some some act of like
- 10:18some humbling act where they crawl from hundreds of miles
- 10:22away to the church. And everyone come, I don't know,
- 10:25millions of people come to this. It was fucking crazy.
- 10:29Speaker 1: That would be a religious experience.
- 10:31Speaker 2: It truly was. I was just in there and we
- 10:34caught sermon and I was getting fucking chills. Just from
- 10:39the way they spoke and the echo, the way that
- 10:41the acoustics in this room was. Wow. It was meant
- 10:44to give you chills. They know what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:46They know what they're doing.
- 10:47Speaker 4: I don't want to go down the full Charlie Kirk
- 10:49rabbit hole, but I saw this video yesterday where he
- 10:51visited Jerusalem, and they were taking him to this place
- 10:53underground where they mapped it out and used archaeology to
- 10:57find out that, I believe, this spot here where they're at, Jesus,
- 11:00I think, preached or something.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Huh.
- 11:04Speaker 4: They found it underground, and they just built the city
- 11:06on top of it, like you were just saying.
- 11:09Speaker 2: There's all these phenomena.
- 11:10Speaker 1: But that is a common thing. Yeah, it's a common thing.
- 11:14Where they find this is where he was. No, no,
- 11:16I mean, it's a common thing where they take old
- 11:18sites and they just build the new sites on top
- 11:20of them. It's a really common thing.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of, it's fucked up, but it's also
- 11:26like paying homage. I guess kind of. Like keeping the
- 11:30same vibe like this.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Well, it's just like rebuilding a house.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to keep some bones.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:36Speaker 2: It's good bones. It's like there's good bones there. Right.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I don't think people probably had a really good sense
- 11:42of what history would mean 2,000 years later back then.
- 11:45You know what I mean? Like when they were doing
- 11:47all this shit. These people were busy.
- 11:48Speaker 2: They were busy. They left all kinds of tchotchkes, man. Yeah.
- 11:51They left so many tchotchkes, it's crazy. It's true. I
- 11:54feel stupid. I have to do the same thing with
- 11:57my time. I have to constantly be, I have to
- 12:00leave cool shit.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Because they left cool shit.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Just because I feel it in me as well. Like,
- 12:05I get it.
- 12:06Speaker 3: Right.
- 12:06Speaker 2: I get it. But when I went to the museum
- 12:09down there, you see all these things. It's like ornaments,
- 12:12like just literal tchotchkes.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Things you would see ornamentally placed by your grandmother on
- 12:19top of things or like on top of doily just
- 12:23for decorative purposes. But also everyday things and just everything
- 12:28meant something. Everything meant something to them, and everything was
- 12:32done with intention. I don't think that this was all
- 12:35accidental for them. What do you mean? Well, they knew
- 12:39who they were praising. All the little figurines for the
- 12:42fertile women were these women with big, humongous hips and
- 12:46asses and big breasts and stuff like that. These are
- 12:49the nurturing women. Then they showed the people who were
- 12:51supposed to be witch doctors. They fucking looked like witch doctors,
- 12:54all crazy, three skulls holding crazy fucking things. Right.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Like, they.
- 13:00Speaker 2: determined my view or these views of who these like
- 13:04who people are you understand like status wise and species
- 13:10wise like this is a barber this is a this
- 13:14and your idea of what that person looks like a
- 13:17nurturing woman is known to be a voluptuous woman right
- 13:22their ideas were there already they built all their all
- 13:25their little chachkis and their little statuettes that they represent
- 13:28and these women very voluptuous.
- 13:31Speaker 1: It would have been interesting to see, to hear their
- 13:34version of the world. You know what I mean? Like,
- 13:37I wonder what they knew about the rest of the world.
- 13:40I wonder how much they knew, how much they knew
- 13:43about like Europe and Asia and how much they knew
- 13:45about Africa. Did they know anything about all that stuff?
- 13:48Like when they were existing, like whoever built TO, how
- 13:51do you say it? TOT Wakhan? Yeah.
- 13:53Speaker 2: TOT Wakhan.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Whoever built that, like, How much do they know about
- 13:57the rest of the world? That's what's interesting because we
- 13:59don't really know. We assume that they're all isolated. But
- 14:03more and more as time goes on, they keep finding
- 14:06evidence of earlier and earlier seafaring people. I think they've
- 14:11pushed people in boats back to 60,000 years now. Let's
- 14:15see if that's true. Put that in perplexity. What is
- 14:18the oldest known use of boats?
- 14:23Speaker 3: Also speaking of that, they think they found Noah's Ark.
- 14:25Speaker 2: As long as there's been water, there's probably been something
- 14:27to float on it.
- 14:28Speaker 3: Noah's Ark scans.
- 14:29Speaker 1: What?
- 14:29Speaker 3: We brought that up before.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Oh, Mount Ararat in Turkey?
- 14:32Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been going around Twitter the last couple
- 14:34of days. I think they did some new scans and
- 14:36found some stuff underneath it.
- 14:37Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I want to see that. But what was the other question?
- 14:41The other question is the oldest boat. What do you guess?
- 14:43Tell your guess.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Fucking, it's beyond my thought. It's like, I don't even
- 14:48know a number. A number doesn't come to mind. Like,
- 14:51As long as there's been water. Right. What the fuck
- 14:54does that mean? I don't even know.
- 14:56Speaker 1: I wonder how long it took, like, early man to
- 14:59figure out that trees float. And if you could figure
- 15:02out a tool. Once they figured out tools, they must
- 15:05have started making stuff.
- 15:07Speaker 2: But when we see all these ancient, really, like, laser
- 15:11diagnostic fucking situations, they knew already.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:15Speaker 2: They knew.
- 15:16Speaker 1: That's different. That's different. Like Egypt, right? Archaic humans are
- 15:20crossing substantial sea channels long before our species Homo sapiens
- 15:24appeared on the record. Whoa. So implying intentional crossings as
- 15:30far back as roughly 450,000 years ago.
- 15:34Speaker 2: When you think about it.
- 15:35Speaker 1: What the fuck?
- 15:36Speaker 2: Fucking polar bears and seals, they jump up on a
- 15:39little broken piece of ice and they float.
- 15:41Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 15:42Speaker 2: That's a boat. Yeah. That's a boat. Yeah.
- 15:45Speaker 1: That's what the polar bears are doing. You're absolutely right.
- 15:47Speaker 2: They put their hand in the water as a rudder.
- 15:48Let's go this way. Let's go that way.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Yeah, they know what they're doing. They know how to
- 15:52tip them over.
- 15:52Speaker 2: They know exactly.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Tie the seals to pop off and slide.
- 15:56Speaker 2: It's years of evolutionary knowledge.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Yeah. 450,000 years is bananas, though. I thought it was
- 16:02like 60.
- 16:03Speaker 4: Well, further up it said somewhere between 60,000 and 130,000,
- 16:07but this article here says it could be even more
- 16:09before that.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Well, what was that most recent discovery of a human
- 16:14skull that backdates human beings, not necessarily Homo sapiens, but
- 16:20versions of humans back to a million years? Was it Homo,
- 16:25not Homo naledi?
- 16:27Speaker 4: It was a skull they had, but they didn't do
- 16:30testing or something.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Right. And this– they said it's a million years old.
- 16:35So I don't think it's us, but I think it's–
- 16:39the question is it coexisted with us.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about a million years old.
- 16:45Speaker 1: So that might mean we're a million years old. You
- 16:48want to hear about some shit that I just read
- 16:50the other day that's nuts? You know how the thought
- 16:54is that there's Neanderthals and that human beings bred with
- 16:58Neanderthals and that's how the Neanderthal population went out? There's
- 17:04at least this one researcher who has a different opinion
- 17:07and he was using genetics to point this out. He
- 17:10said that he believed that humans may have created Neanderthals
- 17:14so that humans bred with an even older human species
- 17:19and Neanderthal is the offspring of the humans, Homo sapiens
- 17:24and whatever this older thing is.
- 17:29Speaker 2: It didn't create a superhuman though.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Well, Neanderthals are kind of a superhuman.
- 17:33Speaker 2: But mentally, they're known to be a little bit like Neanderthal, no?
- 17:38Speaker 1: See, that's a statement that people say.
- 17:41Speaker 2: I'd like to know, is Neanderthal really an intelligence or
- 17:46is it dumb?
- 17:47Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't really know.
- 17:48Speaker 2: I'm a fucking idiot. Like, I must be this.
- 17:50Speaker 1: They had bigger brains than us, though. Which is weird.
- 17:53But that might have been to have better musculature, better coordination.
- 17:58They were way stronger than us.
- 17:59Speaker 2: Huge.
- 18:00Speaker 1: They weren't big. They were like 5'7, 5'8. They're like
- 18:03my height.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Bone structure, right?
- 18:04Speaker 3: Right.
- 18:05Speaker 1: They're built completely different than us. They would tear us apart.
- 18:08They would tear us apart the way like a chimpanzee
- 18:09would tear you apart. They just rip your arms off.
- 18:12Like they're insanely strong. And their bones are much denser
- 18:15than ours. But it says the gap between genetics and
- 18:18archaeology leaves us with an unclear picture of where the Neanderthals...
- 18:21Originated columnist Michael Marshall details a surprising new hypothesis that
- 18:27suggests they may have come from us. So this was
- 18:30the thing that I had read. Oh, you have to
- 18:34buy a– what is this? New Scientist? We should probably
- 18:37get a subscription for them anyway. We use them a lot.
- 18:40They got good shit on there. So I think the
- 18:42idea is that they're– you know, they keep finding these
- 18:46other versions of humans. Like they found this thing called
- 18:50the Denisovan. And then they found this other one. What
- 18:53do they call the big-headed people?
- 18:55Speaker 2: Where are they finding these?
- 18:57Speaker 1: They find bones. China is one of them. They found
- 19:00the big-headed guy they found in China. They find them
- 19:03all over the world, man. They find these bones that
- 19:06are just weird. You got to think of how few
- 19:09human bones are going to make it from people that
- 19:12are alive right now. So few of us are ever
- 19:15going to become fossils. So we're putting together– A version
- 19:19of the history that's completely incomplete as far as the
- 19:22evidence is concerned. There's just not enough evidence of like bones.
- 19:25If we had– like look, if everybody who ever lived
- 19:29died and left their bones and then future people could
- 19:32study their bones forever, boy, we would know so much more.
- 19:36We would know so much more. There would be bones everywhere.
- 19:39But we would know so much more about how things work.
- 19:42Speaker 2: French did something with them. Fucking catacombs, put them on
- 19:45the ground, build something, make it decorative.
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- 20:40and network management details. The decorative. Noah's Ark mystery deepens
- 20:47as a researcher blows lid on strange rock formation in Turkey.
- 20:51So this rock formation is on Mount Ararat. That's what
- 20:56it looks like?
- 20:56Speaker 3: This thing here in the middle, yeah, and they said
- 20:58it's the same.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Wait a minute, that's not AI? Nope. Is this all LiDAR?
- 21:03Speaker 3: So this is a picture.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Bro, that's crazy. That's the actual image?
- 21:07Speaker 3: I'll show you the other ones they have.
- 21:09Speaker 1: God, that looks like what somebody would send me in
- 21:12a Facebook group chat.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Honestly, this shit right here, if it's not AI, if
- 21:19it's AI, it should say it.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Right. If it's not a guy that looks like a boat.
- 21:24So look, I'm not a geologist or someone who's a
- 21:27landscape expert, but that's a very unusual feature. What are
- 21:31the odds that something looks exactly like a boat?
- 21:35Speaker 4: So then underneath it, they scanned it. And then they're
- 21:38saying that these potentially are hallways or.
- 21:42Speaker 2: I mean, that's the shape of a boat.
- 21:44Speaker 1: That's a fucking boat. Oh, so there's structure inside of it?
- 21:48Speaker 3: Well, the biggest issue is that this is on the
- 21:51side of a mountain. So that's not where the ocean is.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Bro, the Great Flood.
- 21:57Speaker 4: It's 6,500 feet above sea level, it says. So if
- 22:01you're going to go with the story of the flood,
- 22:03then you'd have to say that we don't know exactly
- 22:05when the flood happened because this would be petrified wood
- 22:09or something. And I read it takes somewhere between thousands
- 22:12and millions of years to get petrified wood. So we'd
- 22:15have to be on the lower end of the thousands
- 22:17because it's probably not millions of years. And then tectonic
- 22:21plates would have had to lift it all the way
- 22:22up here.
- 22:24Speaker 1: No, not necessarily if the flood receded when the water
- 22:28was that high.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Yeah, if it flooded the entire planet.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Right, but then the question would be where's all that water?
- 22:35Speaker 2: All kinds of strange phenomena push things towards the surface.
- 22:39This could be anything. It could be anything, but boy,
- 22:42it looks like the shape of a boat. If it
- 22:44was down below, the water could definitely push. Everything could
- 22:48be pushed as long as that's nestled in there.
- 22:52Speaker 1: I think maybe it was good wood. A lot of
- 22:53this is just the universe fucking with us. I think
- 22:57it's part of the simulation. Part of the simulation is
- 23:00the universe fucks with us. And the universe shows you
- 23:03some things that shouldn't be real by your version of
- 23:06what is and isn't true.
- 23:07Speaker 2: A.I.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Well, that's one.
- 23:10Speaker 2: That's pretty much what the fuck it is.
- 23:11Speaker 1: No, that's happening.
- 23:12Speaker 2: That's the explanation of it.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Yeah, that is. But then there's stuff like this. If
- 23:16this is an AI, it's almost like the universe is AI.
- 23:19It looks like a big abalone. The whole thing is
- 23:21not real. Whoa. So does that line up with the
- 23:25actual biblical- So.
- 23:26Speaker 4: That's where, like, this is even five years ago that
- 23:29this picture on the screen was taken. So I think
- 23:31that they're doing- Whether or not they're taking some liberties
- 23:35and what the descriptions are or not, I don't know.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Boy, it certainly is a weird shape.
- 23:39Speaker 2: This is Noah's Ark right here, this thing?
- 23:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:41Speaker 2: It looks like a fucking riverboat.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Well, that's what it was.
- 23:44Speaker 2: It looks like we're playing P-Knuckle on the riverboat there
- 23:47on that one.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Well, you had to get all the animals in there, bro.
- 23:50Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like that would be the one.
- 23:52Speaker 1: What did you think it looked like?
- 23:53Speaker 2: I don't know, like some fucking mega yacht.
- 23:57Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 23:58Speaker 2: A bunch of hulls. What is the thing?
- 24:01Speaker 1: The staffs and the holes. Listen, I think the story
- 24:05of the flood is a real story because it exists
- 24:07in too many cultures.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Water is very unexplainable. Water has no enemy.
- 24:13Speaker 1: And tsunamis. Tsunamis fucking happen, dude. And if they happened
- 24:17and you were in that area, you would think it's
- 24:19the end of the world because you don't have contact
- 24:21with people in Europe. You don't have contact. So wherever
- 24:25you are is an apocalypse.
- 24:26Speaker 2: It's the Great Flood.
- 24:27Speaker 1: You think it's the whole world's gone.
- 24:29Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything specific about the acacia wood,
- 24:31but I remember looking this up last week, and it
- 24:33very specifically said acacia wood was used to make the Ark.
- 24:37Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. Acacia honey is fucking unbelievably delicious.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Well, the reason he's bringing that up is acacia is
- 24:42also rich in DMT, and that's these scientists.
- 24:45Speaker 2: No wonder I like it.
- 24:46Speaker 1: There you go, dog. These researchers out of Jerusalem think
- 24:50that that's what Moses' burning bush was. So where God
- 24:55saw– where Moses saw God as a burning bush, that's
- 24:58what they think that means. They were burning the acacia bush.
- 25:01Speaker 2: He was hitting the deems.
- 25:02Speaker 1: He was hitting the deems. He was hitting the deems.
- 25:05He probably did talk to God. God probably did have
- 25:08some good messages for humanity in the early days when
- 25:11we were.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Basically just savages.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Wild fucking creatures with stone tools.
- 25:17Speaker 2: Man.
- 25:19Speaker 1: We've come a long way. I mean, human beings are
- 25:21still trying to figure it out. Obviously, we're in the
- 25:25middle of three fucking wars going on in the world.
- 25:27But we're doing better. I think.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:32Speaker 1: I think we're doing better.
- 25:32Speaker 2: We're doing better in day-to-day stuff.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Day-to-day interactions with people are definitely, for the most part, better.
- 25:40Speaker 2: I feel like we're at a place where everyone's going
- 25:44to either come together or we're going to just fucking
- 25:47totally rip our fucking heads off.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Right. My fear is that a lot of chaos is
- 25:53going to happen and they're going to use that as
- 25:54an excuse to have AI run everything. And that's where
- 25:57things get really fucking weird. That's where creativity dissolves, freedom dissolves.
- 26:04You become some little biological time card.
- 26:09Speaker 2: The other day, I fucking posted a picture of a
- 26:13frog that I AI generated just because I wasn't able
- 26:17to get the frog to do what the fuck I
- 26:18wanted to do in real life. Like, I want the
- 26:22frog holding frog popsicles. He was being difficult, so I
- 26:26had to fucking use another guy. And everyone was blasting
- 26:30me like, yo, not you, not you. I can't believe
- 26:33you used AI. Like, yo, you're. What? People were fucking
- 26:37flipping out on me.
- 26:38Speaker 1: So people are upset that you're using.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I generated a picture of a frog.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Who is mad at you for this?
- 26:44Speaker 2: Whoever is on my Instagram.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Huh.
- 26:46Speaker 2: And my fans and the people who are, you know,
- 26:51just hating on AI. I get the idea of like
- 26:54using it in a, you know, in a conniving way
- 26:57or in a. But it was a picture of a
- 27:00fucking frog. There it is. That's fucking good.
- 27:08Speaker 1: That's cool.
- 27:08Speaker 2: And I said that that was going to be my
- 27:10album cover, but then people were like, yo, you're taking
- 27:16away opportunities from other artists. Well, let me just clear
- 27:19this up. I wouldn't have hired you no matter what
- 27:22because I do all my artwork anyway. There was no
- 27:25job to be taken away. So let's just, if that's
- 27:29the argument, you could throw that one out.
- 27:32Speaker 1: This is just tools.
- 27:33Speaker 2: It's good old fun.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Listen, I don't think.
- 27:36Speaker 2: This is Photoshop pretty much.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, it's beautiful.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Thank you, man.
- 27:39Speaker 1: It's very cool looking.
- 27:40Speaker 2: But then I did.
- 27:41Speaker 1: I get what people are saying.
- 27:43Speaker 2: I get it too. I get it. After it was
- 27:44explained to me by a younger generation of mine.
- 27:47Speaker 1: I get you should hire artists to make stuff. But
- 27:50do you know how long it would take an artist
- 27:51to make that? Unless the artist is doing exactly what
- 27:53you're doing.
- 27:54Speaker 2: But I get that, but I wouldn't have hired him
- 27:57in the first place because I do all the hard
- 27:59work on my own. Everything comes from me.
- 28:01Speaker 1: So it's not a job loss no matter what.
- 28:03Speaker 2: No, it wasn't a job loss no matter what. But
- 28:05I get the idea of it. I get the idea.
- 28:09It's shits and giggles. It's fucking whack that that's what
- 28:12people are worried about.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I don't think– I think it's just a bunch of
- 28:15people looking for things to complain about, A. And then
- 28:18there's also like a sentiment in the air, which is
- 28:21that AI is coming for everybody's job. So anytime someone
- 28:24uses AI that could have been used by people, there's
- 28:27a certain percentage of people that are going to kind
- 28:29of rightly be upset.
- 28:30Speaker 2: I get it.
- 28:31Speaker 1: But you're not going to stop it. This is the thing.
- 28:34That fucking– that wave is 2,000 feet high and it's
- 28:38moving 100 miles an hour and you're not going to
- 28:40stop it. You're not going to stop it. This is
- 28:43just what AI is.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I didn't realize the severity. I mean I guess I
- 28:48do now, but.
- 28:50Speaker 1: Bro, it's alive.
- 28:51Speaker 2: It's fucked. It's fucked for sure.
- 28:52Speaker 1: These things are alive. And they're going to be able
- 28:54to do everything for you.
- 28:55Speaker 2: I don't usually use any of those things. I'm pretty,
- 28:58you know, Neanderthal when it comes to this type of thing. Yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 1: See, the thing about the Neanderthals is they don't know
- 29:04if they were dumb. So they used to think that
- 29:07they were really stupid. And then they realized that they
- 29:10probably had language and they probably had tools and they
- 29:13probably had a sophisticated society and they buried their young.
- 29:17And maybe we just assume because they're brutish and strong
- 29:21that they were stupid. But their brains are bigger than
- 29:24our brains. They might not have been dumb.
- 29:26Speaker 2: That's why I consider myself a Neanderthal.
- 29:27Speaker 1: They have big eyeballs, too.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Looks are deceiving. You think that, you know, some schlub.
- 29:34And here I come, fucking mister.
- 29:35Speaker 1: I've never seen you with the bass.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I did it this morning.
- 29:38Speaker 1: You can swing that motherfucker, dude. It's very impressive. It's
- 29:41a hard thing to do.
- 29:42Speaker 2: And I got up to like 88 pounds on that bitch,
- 29:45which is ridiculous. That's a lot.
- 29:47Speaker 1: I started doing this new kettlebell exercise. You do like
- 29:50an eight in the air with a kettlebell. We start
- 29:53it like this. All the way up and down like that.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's crazy.
- 29:59Speaker 1: And over around your head. Woo!
- 30:02Speaker 2: Serious deal. Oh, my God.
- 30:04Speaker 1: Your core, you don't realize how weak that shit is
- 30:07in those weird movements until you try something like that.
- 30:10Speaker 2: That's why the kettlebells are the best things. Kettlebells, the clubs,
- 30:14the mace.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Awkward stuff.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Awkward. I love all that stuff. All the sandbag work.
- 30:19I'm still doing that every day. Since I was here last,
- 30:22I know it doesn't seem it, but I've lost like
- 30:2420 pounds.
- 30:25Speaker 1: Congratulations.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Well, I got up to 300 again. Damn, dog. Now
- 30:28I'm back down to 265. I know you can't see it,
- 30:32but I'm kind of jacked.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Well, you're very thick.
- 30:34Speaker 2: I'm jacked. I'm jacked.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Yeah. You're very like... You're a bull.
- 30:38Speaker 2: I know, man. But I'm trying to be a— You
- 30:40put the work in.
- 30:40Speaker 1: It's just— but the problem is you also work with food,
- 30:43delicious food.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I stopped eating.
- 30:44Speaker 1: So much pasta. Phenomenal food. Did you?
- 30:46Speaker 2: I did.
- 30:47Speaker 1: So much is a funny way of saying it.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I have not eaten so much pasta. By whose definition
- 30:52is so much? I've cut it out a lot. I'm
- 30:56trying to dial it in heavily. I'm trying to really
- 30:58dial it in. I need— this is my life. It's all
- 31:01about being dialed in. Yeah. I can't let it go
- 31:04because once I let it go, it's going.
- 31:07Speaker 1: I hear you.
- 31:08Speaker 2: It's going.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It's hard once you get those carbs,
- 31:15once you get that pizza and that pasta rolling.
- 31:17Speaker 2: You know what? Once I stopped, I don't even fucking
- 31:19need that shit right now. I don't even crave it.
- 31:21I'm not really interested in that. A simple piece of
- 31:24toasted whole wheat bread does it for me. Just jam that.
- 31:29I don't need pizza. I've eaten enough pizza in my
- 31:32life for fucking 45 children.
- 31:34Speaker 1: What's that?
- 31:35Speaker 2: What's that? 45 children's lifetimes couldn't equate the amount of
- 31:40pizza I've eaten.
- 31:41Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
- 31:42Speaker 2: So, I mean, I feel like I've eaten enough of
- 31:45everything that I've needed to. Now it's time to just fuel.
- 31:48It's all about the fuel.
- 31:50Speaker 1: You're dialing in.
- 31:51Speaker 2: I'm working out with, like, serious dudes that are, like,
- 31:54jacked out of control, and I'm the only one that's rounded.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Do you have a trainer that you work with?
- 31:58Speaker 2: No, no, no. I train with dudes who train every day.
- 32:01Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 32:02Speaker 2: One dude's an IFBB pro.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Oh, bodybuilders.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Bodybuilders. But I'm trying to do a little bit of that.
- 32:09I introduce my stuff. No one can really do the
- 32:12mace because that takes a long time to perfect that work.
- 32:16And everyone's way too tight.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Right.
- 32:18Speaker 2: So I do that on my own. I do like
- 32:20three days of that with the kettlebells. And I do
- 32:23normal shit. Deadlift. My knee's a little fucked, so I'm
- 32:26doing Zurchers. Zurchers is my favorite squad anyway. Zurchers are great.
- 32:31It's my favorite.
- 32:32Speaker 1: It's really good for grappling and just for elevating your testosterone.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Bro, it's known to be like one of the— it' s definitely
- 32:38like a— it' s a jiu-jitsu. Every MMA fighter should be doing that.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Yeah, it's big for wrestlers, the ability to take people
- 32:45down and also stuff takedowns, the same sort of strength.
- 32:48Speaker 2: That thrust. Yeah. It's phenomenal. It's my favorite squad by far. Yeah,
- 32:52it's great.
- 32:53Speaker 1: The shoulder stuff that you do and all that May stuff,
- 32:55you must have like really strong shoulders. My shoulders never
- 32:59fuck with you.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Not anymore because I healed myself with the Anit motherfucking club.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Like literally John Wolf helped me. I would just hit
- 33:07him up like, yo.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Those things are great. It's great just because most of
- 33:11the time when you're lifting, you're just picking stuff up.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:15Speaker 1: You're doing bench press. With this, like you're swinging it
- 33:17over your head and you're pausing out in front, swinging
- 33:20it overhead.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Think about when you're doing jiu-jitsu, you get your hand,
- 33:23your arm put over there and you have that strength.
- 33:26Speaker 1: It's never in like bench press position.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Never. You're never like pushing perfectly. You're always in like weird.
- 33:32Speaker 1: That's why yoga is really good for jiu-jitsu.
- 33:34Speaker 2: I've been trying to do a little bit more of everything.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Yoga is so good for you, man.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Pilates, yoga.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Pilates is surprisingly hard.
- 33:42Speaker 2: It's one of the hardest things I've ever done. I
- 33:44put the goddamn things on my ankles. I was laying
- 33:47on my back doing scissors. Don't tell anybody. But yeah,
- 33:52I was next to my wife.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Tighten up that man pussy.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Bro, my man pussy was like fucking that. It was
- 33:57like rock solid. And I told her, I was like, yo,
- 34:01this hurts my asshole. You're fucking literally making me work
- 34:04out a crazy muscle. And she's like, yep, yep. You
- 34:08feel it, right? You got to go home with a
- 34:10sore asshole.
- 34:12Speaker 4: Ow.
- 34:12Speaker 1: You're sitting on the bowl. Ow.
- 34:14Speaker 2: You got to wear the donut. You got to sit
- 34:16on the cushion.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Oh, no. Remember those? People used to have those at
- 34:19their house? On the seat. We'd have that like cushiony
- 34:22toilet seat.
- 34:23Speaker 2: On the toilet seat?
- 34:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:24Speaker 2: That one that we'd hit it. Yeah. Remember that one? Pink.
- 34:29Grandma pink. Oh my God. I just remember the smell
- 34:33of old ass coming off a toilet, like a grandma's
- 34:36ass or a grandfather's ass.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Yeah. Old.
- 34:40Speaker 2: I remember my father's shit smell. Was it different? Yeah.
- 34:44You always would throw a cigarette in the toilet afterwards,
- 34:46so it smelled like a shitty cigarette.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:51Speaker 1: That was back in the day where everybody smoked in
- 34:53the house.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Oh, my God. We used to have a ring. He
- 34:55would sit, and there was a ring up there from
- 34:58the Rothman Blues.
- 34:59Speaker 1: What's a Rothman Blue?
- 35:00Speaker 2: It was a fucking English cigarette.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Wow. Isn't it crazy how doctors used to recommend cigarettes?
- 35:06You used to be able to buy cigarettes at a hospital.
- 35:09Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I've purchased them at hospitals with the thing.
- 35:12Speaker 1: In bed. When the guy's in bed.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Or you could buy them in, like, they would come around,
- 35:15like a six-year-old kid would come around with the thing.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Like a lady would come by with, like, a box
- 35:20of different kinds of cigarettes in it. And the guy was, like,
- 35:22picking out cigarettes that he could have while he's in
- 35:24his hospital bed. Damn.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Those are the days.
- 35:26Speaker 1: See if you can find one of the pictures.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Those are the days. I remember the pull machine was
- 35:30always my favorite when I got sent to the store
- 35:31to go do this, do that.
- 35:34Speaker 1: Yeah. Look at this.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
- 35:35Speaker 1: This has to be an ad, right?
- 35:38Speaker 2: Is it an ad? That's the golden days.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Or maybe it's a newspaper photograph or something like that.
- 35:42Was that Paul Moll? 1950s cigarettes were marketed as being
- 35:49good for you. Look at the nurse is lighting this
- 35:50guy's cigarette.
- 35:51Speaker 2: That's crazy. Well, he doesn't look sick. His hair is
- 35:55done nicely. So when did people in America.
- 35:58Speaker 1: We looked up this who figured out the first cigarette,
- 36:00didn't we?
- 36:00Speaker 3: Is it the same guy, different nurse?
- 36:03Speaker 1: Oh, this is all bullshit.
- 36:03Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Maybe it's just one guy had a freaky nurse. Who
- 36:07the nurse is?
- 36:08Speaker 2: It just reminds me of why is America so medicated?
- 36:11Why are we just so fucking medicated on everything?
- 36:16Speaker 1: Because it works.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Does it?
- 36:18Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't do what you want it to do.
- 36:21But as far as mental medications.
- 36:24Speaker 2: That shit works?
- 36:25Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that works. Sure. Prozac has
- 36:27a legitimate effect on people. They get accustomed to it.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Good or bad?
- 36:30Speaker 3: Adderall.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Adderall.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Depends on who it depends on the dose. You know,
- 36:34it's like, if you want to say good or bad,
- 36:36I know a lot of people that are very successful
- 36:39that use Adderall. Uh, I don't necessarily know if it's bad.
- 36:43I think it depends on who you are, whether or
- 36:45not you can just use it when you need it,
- 36:48like to write or something like that. I know journalists
- 36:50that use it, but if it's, uh, if it's one
- 36:53of those things that you're addicted to, like, uh, benzodiazepine,
- 36:57you know, like, uh.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Michael Jackson?
- 37:00Speaker 1: Well, no.
- 37:01Speaker 2: That was the Michael Jackson one? No.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Oh, that was the Latin. Well, he died from being sedated.
- 37:08He died from propofol.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Oh, he was just sedated and then pumped with other stuff.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I don't think he could sleep at night. I think
- 37:14he was just so mentally ill.
- 37:16Speaker 2: That's fucked.
- 37:17Speaker 1: That guy was too famous, man.
- 37:19Speaker 2: There is that level.
- 37:21Speaker 1: There's a level of too famous.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Wait, it's deep. Yeah, and he also had a lot.
- 37:25Everyone on earth knows who Michael Jackson is.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:29Speaker 2: I don't think there's anyone who doesn't know who Michael
- 37:30Jackson is. Even now. If you're born now, you know
- 37:33who he is. Yeah.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I mean, he was so famous that even after all
- 37:38the sexual allegations, all of his music still played on
- 37:42the radio. It was so good.
- 37:44Speaker 2: No one gives a fuck.
- 37:45Speaker 1: Seriously. It was so good.
- 37:46Speaker 2: He's the only one no one cares.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Right.
- 37:48Speaker 2: Look, R.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Kelly stuff, you barely hear it anymore.
- 37:50Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Please don't.
- 37:54Speaker 2: I will not.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Or do.
- 37:55Speaker 2: He's a disgrace. I mean, it's disgraceful. But his music
- 37:58was phenomenal. It was like that changed motherfuckers, the whole
- 38:02vibe of R & B, like disgusting, unbelievable, nasty, disgraceful things.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Right. But if you separate the artist from the art.
- 38:10Speaker 2: And that's the fucking worst thing. You can't do that.
- 38:13You cannot say that. It comes as a whole package.
- 38:15Speaker 1: But my question is, how many of those guys were
- 38:18like that way back in the day? You know what
- 38:22I mean?
- 38:22Speaker 2: Probably a lot. A large amount. You see the sickness.
- 38:25I don't understand why motherfuckers get a little bit of
- 38:28money and start doing weirdo shit.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Like island shit?
- 38:30Speaker 2: Like I like to garden.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Like island shit?
- 38:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Like I like gardening. I like stonemasonry. I like working
- 38:40out and cooking.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Right. I'll tell you why.
- 38:43Speaker 2: I'm obviously not on that level, but I don't see
- 38:45my mentality changing so far off where I'm fucking going
- 38:48to the island, you know?
- 38:49Speaker 1: No. It's never going to happen. It's a bizarre issue.
- 38:51Even if there was a new island. But the thing is,
- 38:54you made money by doing what you love. That's a
- 38:57very different kind of money. These people are just trying
- 39:00to make money. So when you're just trying to make money,
- 39:03it's all about. experiences and items that you possess so
- 39:08you want to buy your own island you want a
- 39:10jet what else you want you want a ferrari you
- 39:12want a bunch of shit things you want things and
- 39:15you keep getting more things and you want to do
- 39:16things that you're not supposed to do like you want
- 39:18to eat an endangered species you know there's like a
- 39:22restaurant in china they'll serve you tiger they'll serve you gorilla.
- 39:26Like whatever you want to eat. Endangered species. I mean
- 39:29I've seen things– I don't know if this is true
- 39:31but there was a story that was written about this
- 39:32place where you could go in China. And this is
- 39:34a– see if you can find it. There's a story
- 39:37about like– it's one of those things where it's like
- 39:41a– it's not like a restaurant.
- 39:43Speaker 2: It's a gathering.
- 39:43Speaker 1: It's a gathering that happens like once every year or
- 39:46something like that and they go and they would eat
- 39:48endangered species.
- 39:49Speaker 2: I think I've seen– Fucking crazy. I know.
- 39:52Speaker 1: But that's a billionaire crazy person money thing. Like we're
- 39:55going to go eat a tiger. You know what I mean?
- 39:57It's fucking ridiculous. Yeah. It's weird.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. I don't even like
- 40:03to hurt anything. I don't. Right.
- 40:04Speaker 1: But that's because you're not that kind of a rich guy.
- 40:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:08Speaker 1: You're a guy who made a bunch of money just
- 40:10by being himself. And that's a totally different enterprise than
- 40:13someone who's just trying to make a bunch of money.
- 40:16The people that are just trying to make a bunch
- 40:17of money, they're never happy. You're never satisfied.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. I mean, I don't know where anybody
- 40:23comes from, but I live in a two-fucking-bedroom apartment my
- 40:26entire life, up until recently. I still do.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Here it is. Crackdown on menu for China's animal eaters.
- 40:34Speaker 3: This is from 2014, though, so they made a rule.
- 40:36Speaker 2: What kind of riblet meat is that? Look at those
- 40:38fucking striations. Oh, no wonder.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Porcupine. They changed the law because of it?
- 40:43Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I don't know if because of it,
- 40:46but that's why it's probably not talked about as much anymore.
- 40:51Speaker 1: The diners of southern China have long had a reputation
- 40:54for exotic tastes. With locals sometimes boasting they will eat
- 40:57anything with four legs except a table. LOL.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Fucking jerks.
- 41:05Speaker 1: So pangolin. So pangolin's endangered, right? Are they endangered? Wasn't
- 41:10that one of the things they thought was the wet market?
- 41:13Speaker 2: On top it.
- 41:13Speaker 3: Says they had endangered tortoises and snakes and porcupines in cages.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Ugh. And imagine you're so nasty you want to eat
- 41:21an endangered snake. Eating a snake alone is gross. But
- 41:25you're so nasty you want to eat an endangered snake?
- 41:28Speaker 2: I've had snake soup. I was in Japan and I
- 41:31had fucking a good snake soup. It was smoked.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Was it good?
- 41:34Speaker 2: It tasted like beef.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Really?
- 41:36Speaker 2: It did. It was supposed to be, you know, make
- 41:40you very versatile.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Oh, versatile.
- 41:43Speaker 2: What's the word?
- 41:43Speaker 1: Vero.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Vero.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Versatile as well, right?
- 41:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:49Speaker 2: It was a black snake, of course.
- 41:51Speaker 1: Ah, black snake. Was it a poisonous snake?
- 41:54Speaker 2: That, I'm not sure. But there was a bunch, it
- 41:58was like, this was a Michelin star restaurant, two Michelin star,
- 42:01and of course it was like French-Japanese creations and fucking
- 42:09quite endangered.
- 42:10Speaker 1: Really?
- 42:13Speaker 2: As endangered as I could get.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Endangered?
- 42:16Speaker 2: A little turtle. A little sneak.
- 42:18Speaker 1: But some turtles are not endangered.
- 42:19Speaker 2: I know, but I don't even like to do it.
- 42:21It's just, it turns me off.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Dude, I used to have turtles as pets. I used
- 42:26to have turtles. And at one point in time, I
- 42:29had piranhas. Turtles are way more psychotic than piranhas. When
- 42:35I would feed my turtles, I'd feed my turtles goldfish.
- 42:38And they'd swim around and grab the goldfish and just
- 42:40bite them in half. It was crazy to watch.
- 42:43Speaker 2: They got those powerful jaws.
- 42:44Speaker 1: And I'm looking at them. I'm like, of course. You're
- 42:46a little dinosaur. Just look at you. You look like
- 42:49a dinosaur. You have this crazy stegosaurus shell over your back.
- 42:53And you're swimming through the water.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Some neck comes out like that.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Dude, they were super aggressive. See if you can find
- 42:59videos of turtles fucking up goldfish.
- 43:03Speaker 2: What about those big motherfuckers though? Do they grab them
- 43:05with their hands? Like the big snappers.
- 43:07Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Big snapping turtles. Those are for like Bowser.
- 43:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever seen one in real life?
- 43:13Speaker 2: I've seen the big sea, like the big tortoises in Hawaii,
- 43:16but I've never seen a big snapping one.
- 43:17Speaker 1: I saw like a medium one, not a real big one,
- 43:20but they look so freaky. Their fucking teeth or that
- 43:25beak thing, that mouth.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Fucking jacked up neck too. Yeah. Like a big fucking
- 43:29huge thing.
- 43:30Speaker 1: Big fucking huge clamped down neck. There's one different type.
- 43:35What is that one really crazy looking snapping turtle? Is
- 43:38it a gar snapping turtle? I think it is.
- 43:41Speaker 3: I've never seen this one before.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Whoa, what the fuck is that?
- 43:44Speaker 3: A mata mata turtle.
- 43:46Speaker 1: Whoa.
- 43:47Speaker 3: What the fuck kind of head is that? It's a
- 43:49triangle head.
- 43:51Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a UFO.
- 43:51Speaker 3: With a weird nose.
- 43:53Speaker 1: That's weird.
- 43:55Speaker 3: I've never seen that.
- 43:56Speaker 1: It's eating a goldfish too? There you go. Oh, he
- 43:59just swallows it whole. What a weird looking creature. If
- 44:04you told me yesterday that this didn't exist, I would
- 44:06have believed you. If you told me yesterday this is AI.
- 44:10Speaker 2: What's the reasoning that a lot of these species go
- 44:14flat heads?
- 44:16Speaker 1: Hmm.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Good question.
- 44:17Speaker 3: Mixing the bottom of the.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Because you slip right into the shell, I'm sure.
- 44:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.
- 44:21Speaker 1: I'm sure you fit better in the shell.
- 44:22Speaker 2: But you go hammerhead and heads like that and fucking
- 44:25stingrays and shit just turns flat. Flounder.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Right. That's a weird one. Two eyeballs on one side.
- 44:32What the fuck is that? So this is a very
- 44:34timid turtle eating the goldfish. He's just... The ones that
- 44:38I had, they swam after the goldfish and grabbed them.
- 44:42Speaker 2: Look at this fucking thing. Whoa!
- 44:44Speaker 1: Alligator snapping turtle.
- 44:46Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one. Alligator. This one is the one
- 44:49that turns into fucking Donatello.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Look at the face on that fucker.
- 44:52Speaker 3: See its tongue down there?
- 44:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Oh, so its tongue looks like a goldfish?
- 44:56Speaker 3: A little worm.
- 44:56Speaker 1: So it tricks him?
- 44:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Come get some.
- 45:00Speaker 3: Look.
- 45:01Speaker 1: Oh, snap. Nature's so evil. It gave me a lure
- 45:05in my mouth.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Nature has no mercy, man. Nope. No mercy.
- 45:09Speaker 1: No mercy.
- 45:10Speaker 3: We were talking about smoking this. I saw this today
- 45:12that UK has voted to ban anyone born after 2008
- 45:15to be banned from smoking.
- 45:19Speaker 1: What?
- 45:20Speaker 3: It hasn't passed. It has to.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm
- 45:24going to light up a cigar. Fuck them.
- 45:26Speaker 3: It says this.
- 45:27Speaker 2: That's a crazy one.
- 45:29Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of fake when I saw it,
- 45:30but I looked it up.
- 45:33Speaker 3: There's articles about it. It's a draft law, they say,
- 45:36which doesn't mean it's an actual law yet, I think.
- 45:38Speaker 1: I'm opening up a fresh box for them. Fuck you.
- 45:42That's crazy. But that's just, we were talking about this yesterday.
- 45:46Speaker 2: They love having their fucking thumb on you.
- 45:49Speaker 1: It's government. It's like when they expand government, they got
- 45:52to give government something to do. So what do they do?
- 45:54They come up with more rules and regulations. And they
- 45:57come up with more people to enforce those rules and regulations.
- 46:00Even if they don't make any sense.
- 46:01Speaker 2: More bills. Pass this. Pass that. I got a fucking...
- 46:03Everyone has an idea. Every new politician has their ideas.
- 46:07Speaker 1: And they all want to fucking control you. That's what
- 46:09they want to do. More than anything, they want to
- 46:11control you. That's their favorite sport. Their favorite sport is
- 46:14telling you what to do.
- 46:16Speaker 2: I just had a beautiful dinner with our mayor of
- 46:19New York, Mamdani.
- 46:20Speaker 1: How is he? Do you like him?
- 46:22Speaker 2: He was... He's 34 years old, bro. I know. I've
- 46:25never thought that I'd be sitting at a table with
- 46:27a mayor who's younger than me and knows about fucking rap.
- 46:30Speaker 1: Didn't he rap for a while?
- 46:33Speaker 2: I don't acknowledge that. That's hilarious. No, but he's a
- 46:41very nice guy. We had a nice dinner. I didn't
- 46:43speak politics. I'm not really one of those guys. We
- 46:45just talked shit.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 46:47Speaker 2: Yeah, but what the fuck do I know? I don't
- 46:49know shit.
- 46:49Speaker 1: I don't know shit either.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Exactly, so.
- 46:51Speaker 1: The thing that I would always be most concerned is
- 46:54who's financing him, what is their agenda, what are they
- 46:57trying to get him to do? Because it's always money.
- 47:00It's always about money. People are discovering New York City Mondani's.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Oh, that's a fucking crazy picture, right?
- 47:05Speaker 1: He's rapping with an apron on. What's that about? Mr.
- 47:08Speaker 2: Cardamom.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 47:10Speaker 3: Okay.
- 47:11Speaker 2: It's a wild one.
- 47:12Speaker 1: Shame the guy for his mistakes of the past. Let's just,
- 47:16you know... He's just doing some wild stuff, like with
- 47:19taxes and things. Like he's trying to tax these billionaires.
- 47:22Speaker 2: I saw that. What I'd like him to do is-
- 47:24Want one of these, brother? Yeah, sure.
- 47:25Speaker 1: Why not?
- 47:27Speaker 2: What I'd like him to do is fucking help alleviate-
- 47:30Thank you, senor. Help alleviate taxes for people who are
- 47:35born and raised New Yorkers. I shouldn't have to pay
- 47:38for everyone else's bullshit.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Right.
- 47:40Speaker 2: At least give me a little break.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Not just that, but- Thank you. They should be responsible
- 47:45with where the tax dollars go. So before asking you
- 47:48for more taxes, clean up all the fraud.
- 47:50Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 47:50Speaker 1: That's not a fucking big request. That's like a pretty
- 47:55simple thing to ask for. But nobody says that. All
- 47:57they ever say is we need to tax you more.
- 48:00Speaker 2: This year was a mess. He came into all of
- 48:01us when it was a shit storm of literal horrible weather.
- 48:06And the fucking city was an honest garbage hole. It
- 48:09was a shit mess.
- 48:11Speaker 1: It got real bad with snow, right?
- 48:12Speaker 2: Fucking seven feet high piles of garbage. Like, disgrace.
- 48:16Speaker 1: Now, why was that?
- 48:17Speaker 2: Because, I don't know. I would say the union rep
- 48:22wasn't allowing the workers to fucking go and clean shit.
- 48:25I love your honesty. When they're at odds. Listen, I
- 48:29don't know. I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either.
- 48:34Speaker 2: You know, when they're at odds, they're at odds.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Well, so there was a union strike.
- 48:38Speaker 2: They don't allow... They don't allow... Any of the sanitation
- 48:42people to move a muscle unless their union rep says
- 48:45it's okay. You go and sit in the fucking truck
- 48:48and take a nap until we tell you to move. Right.
- 48:52I'm with them. Me too.
- 48:54Speaker 1: Listen, I'm with them.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Me too.
- 48:54Speaker 1: Because out of all the fraud that's existing in that city,
- 48:58all the waste that they've showed, that is one thing
- 49:01you should fucking pay people for because the job sucks.
- 49:04Speaker 2: Okay?
- 49:05Speaker 1: And it's super necessary.
- 49:07Speaker 2: It's the most necessary job. To close Jorge Masvidal.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Yeah, super necessary.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Super necessary.
- 49:11Speaker 1: You fucking have to pick up the garbage, goddammit. Pay
- 49:14those fucking people. I mean, are they asking for unreasonable
- 49:17amounts when you find out how much money you spent
- 49:19on the fucking home? situation and it never got better
- 49:21at all I bet they're getting paid more than the
- 49:24garbage people.
- 49:24Speaker 2: I'm sure but they get good pensions everyone works for
- 49:27a pension it's all for security pension is fucking dental
- 49:32how many times are you going to do dental.
- 49:34Speaker 1: Yeah but you should also get paid if you're moving
- 49:38garbage you should get paid well Period. And for people
- 49:41to go, oh, it's an unskilled job. That's a back-breaking job.
- 49:45You're slinging around bags all day and picking up cans
- 49:49and yanking on levers.
- 49:51Speaker 2: Far from unskilled.
- 49:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not unskilled. You try and drive that fucking truck.
- 49:55It's also dangerous. You're hanging off the back of the
- 49:57truck sometimes. You're out there in the weather. It's fucking hard.
- 50:02You could hurt your back. It's fucking hard. It's a
- 50:04hard job. They should get paid well. And anybody who
- 50:06doesn't think that is a cunt.
- 50:11Speaker 2: You should definitely be paid well.
- 50:12Speaker 1: That's the thing about this world. Everybody's greedy. They want
- 50:14it all for themselves.
- 50:16Speaker 3: Here's one thing they're doing I just found online. They're
- 50:18adding these giant bins, which maybe is better than piles, but.
- 50:24Speaker 1: My boy.
- 50:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that would definitely be better than piles. They're always
- 50:26adding these fucking bins.
- 50:27Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem with that is.
- 50:28Speaker 2: Goddamn Eric Adams made you buy a $ 100 garbage can
- 50:31for your house back in the day from his cousin.
- 50:33This is what I was told from my man in
- 50:35Middle Village.
- 50:36Speaker 1: How much?
- 50:36Speaker 2: $ 100. My boy Connie Gorgeous told me. $ 100. You have
- 50:42to buy a fucking new garbage can for your house
- 50:44one way or another, no matter what, from Eric Adams' cousin.
- 50:48Speaker 1: Oh, really? Show that again, Jamie.
- 50:50Speaker 2: $ 100.
- 50:51Speaker 1: So that actually makes more sense, though, that they're doing
- 50:54this big, because that also probably, the problem is if
- 50:56it does keep the rats out, then what are the
- 50:58rats going to eat? Then you're going to have a
- 50:59bigger rat problem. New York's got a fucking giant rat problem.
- 51:05Speaker 2: I've been seeing less lately.
- 51:07Speaker 1: Because they're hiding.
- 51:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been seeing less. Well, it's about to be summertime,
- 51:10so they're going to come out. Once again, if they
- 51:13pick the fucking garbage up, there'll be less rat.
- 51:16Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
- 51:16Speaker 2: If they stop doing all the construction. I mean, that's
- 51:20what breeds these rats that come out.
- 51:22Speaker 1: For sure.
- 51:22Speaker 2: You're digging these fucks up. You're disturbing their house.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Yeah, but they rely on people to eat. The thing is,
- 51:29it's a completely coexisting.
- 51:34Speaker 2: It's like those monkeys in the Philippines.
- 51:36Speaker 1: It's an ecosystem. The rats and the people are an
- 51:38ecosystem because the rats eat human garbage. And they live
- 51:42piled up around humans for a reason. So they could
- 51:44eat our garbage. And during the pandemic, it was a
- 51:47real fucking problem because no one was going to restaurants
- 51:49for a while. So the rats were everywhere. They were
- 51:51freaking out. They're eating each other. Rats do eat each other.
- 51:55I had a rat eat, well, a bunch of rats
- 51:58ate a dead rat in my garage once. yeah he
- 52:02died big fat rat too he died i heard the
- 52:05trap go off but it was like 10 o'clock at
- 52:07nine i was like fuck it i'll deal with it
- 52:08in the morning i got up in the morning there
- 52:10was nothing left but his tail there was like some
- 52:13skin the feet and the tail they ate his entire body.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Yeah now there was a whole like garage full like
- 52:20one of those uh I don't know, like a storage space.
- 52:23But in the street, you just heard them fucking the
- 52:27gate would be knocking back and forth like they're having
- 52:30a goddamn underground fucking strike force in there.
- 52:34Speaker 1: That's why when people get upset about coyotes, listen.
- 52:37Speaker 2: Bro, I heard them recently.
- 52:38Speaker 1: You need them.
- 52:39Speaker 2: Bro, the fucking pack of coyotes howling and screaming during feeding.
- 52:45Speaker 1: In New York City.
- 52:46Speaker 2: Well, upstate.
- 52:47Speaker 1: They do it in New York City, too. They find
- 52:49them in... The Central Park.
- 52:51Speaker 2: Yeah, like an hour and a half away was really
- 52:53something else.
- 52:53Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they had a lot of them up there.
- 52:55But you need them. Otherwise, you're going to have rats everywhere. Like,
- 52:57there's a balance to all this shit. Just don't leave
- 52:59your cat outside.
- 53:01Speaker 2: No. I saw a fucking owl like this outside. Really?
- 53:05Fucking in the daytime.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Let me reset this.
- 53:07Speaker 1: What is this?
- 53:09Speaker 3: Rats hiding. I think this was.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Oh, yes. They fucking.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they hiding your engine.
- 53:12Speaker 2: Bro, rat ate my fucking boy's BMW engine. All the wiring.
- 53:18Speaker 1: Oh, my God. They chewed up all the insulation. Well,
- 53:26that's just... That's not dead rats, right? What is that?
- 53:30Speaker 3: It's not alive ones.
- 53:32Speaker 1: Isn't that the stuff, though? I think that's the stuff
- 53:34of the ceiling.
- 53:35Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
- 53:36Speaker 1: I think it's the insulation above the roof of the...
- 53:39All right. Above the engine. It's just they nested in
- 53:43this guy's place.
- 53:45Speaker 3: Yeah, this says that the trash bins are going to
- 53:47get rid of a lot of the.
- 53:50Speaker 2: How the fuck do we know?
- 53:50Speaker 1: You're not going to lower. The thing is, didn't we
- 53:54figure out that the number of rats in New York
- 53:56City is pretty similar to the number of people?
- 53:59Speaker 2: I would probably say it out. It outdoes it.
- 54:02Speaker 1: How could you?
- 54:03Speaker 2: It's just so slow.
- 54:05Speaker 1: They don't really know. But someone had told me that
- 54:07the biomass of rats was the same as the biomass
- 54:10of people in New York City, meaning the weight. But
- 54:13we looked that up and that doesn't seem to be true.
- 54:15Speaker 2: But if it's true, it takes much more to make
- 54:18up one human being. So there's going to be 10
- 54:20times more.
- 54:21Speaker 1: Sometimes people read things or write things down and it's
- 54:25just not accurate. Because like there are a lot of
- 54:29cases where small things have a crazy biomass. Like I
- 54:33think the biomass of ants is similar to the biomass
- 54:37of human beings on Earth. Wow. Find out if that's true.
- 54:42Put that into perplexity.
- 54:43Speaker 2: You ever see the ants that have that little honey butt?
- 54:45They have a little ball of honey on their ass?
- 54:48Speaker 1: Oh, I have seen that. What's that for?
- 54:49Speaker 2: It's a taste.
- 54:50Speaker 1: Come get some.
- 54:50Speaker 2: It should be delicious.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Come get some.
- 54:52Speaker 2: Give me that fucking ass.
- 54:54Speaker 1: Imagine if ladies started having that. That's the new thing.
- 54:56Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 54:57Speaker 2: I'd eat so much ass.
- 54:58Speaker 1: No nose ring. Now they just have a honey pot
- 55:00on their ass.
- 55:01Speaker 2: A honey ass. That's how you capture me.
- 55:03Speaker 1: Look at this. Ants on Earth together have about 20%
- 55:07of the biomass of all humans. When measured as dry
- 55:11carbon mass.
- 55:12Speaker 2: Okay.
- 55:13Speaker 1: What about insects in general? Maybe that's where they fucked up.
- 55:19What is the biomass of all insects compared to the
- 55:23biomass of people?
- 55:27Speaker 2: What are you typing this in? What is this?
- 55:28Speaker 1: Our lovely AI sponsor, Perplexity.
- 55:31Speaker 2: Oh, beautiful. Yeah.
- 55:32Speaker 1: On a global scale, total biomass of all insects is
- 55:34several times larger than human biomass.
- 55:38Speaker 4: Wow.
- 55:38Speaker 2: Wow.
- 55:40Speaker 1: Fuck that.
- 55:41Speaker 2: And all this is Smithsonian. Bugs. I love fucking bugs.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Do you?
- 55:46Speaker 2: I love bugs.
- 55:47Speaker 1: We're lucky they're little.
- 55:48Speaker 2: I know, you're right. There's a real, like, there's a
- 55:52generous amount of species up where I'm at, and I
- 55:55really enjoy them recently. You can't be upset at them,
- 55:58because if the area was unhealthy, they wouldn't be there.
- 56:01Speaker 1: Well, you're in upstate?
- 56:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:03Speaker 1: Upstate's beautiful, but check yourself for ticks.
- 56:06Speaker 2: Oh, I do all the time. All the time.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Upstate's got a lot of Lyme.
- 56:10Speaker 2: He got bit by a tick recently. He caught it
- 56:13three days later. He already had it, but he's good now.
- 56:16Speaker 1: Did he go and immediately get the antibiotics? Yeah. That's
- 56:18what you got to do. When you get that Lyme disease,
- 56:20you got to get it quick.
- 56:21Speaker 2: Where do you think they usually capture you? Like around
- 56:23the crevasses?
- 56:24Speaker 1: Yeah, like your legs, your ankles.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Oh, that's fine.
- 56:27Speaker 1: Where they climb up on your pants.
- 56:28Speaker 2: But as long as they don't go up in the
- 56:29fucking Netherlands. Yeah, the nether region.
- 56:31Speaker 1: That would suck. But I think it's a systemic issue
- 56:34more than it is the initial bite. The bite, though...
- 56:37To know that if you've got Lyme disease, a couple
- 56:39days after the infection, it starts getting like a bullseye
- 56:42around it. And that to a lot of people is–
- 56:46that's the big sign that you've got Lyme disease. But
- 56:49sometimes when they get to the doctor, that circle is
- 56:52gone and the doctor doesn't believe them. I've had this
- 56:54happen to a friend of mine who's a very smart guy.
- 56:56And him and his son both got Lyme disease and
- 56:59he couldn't get the fucking doctor to believe that it
- 57:02was Lyme disease until his kids started getting– what's that
- 57:06mouth thing? Guillain-Barre. How do you say that?
- 57:09Speaker 3: Guillain-Barre syndrome?
- 57:11Speaker 2: Is that what you say?
- 57:12Speaker 1: Guillain? Guillain-Barre syndrome? Half your face gets paralyzed.
- 57:17Speaker 2: Oh, fucking hell. Bell's palsy.
- 57:19Speaker 1: Right, but there's a name for it. I think it's
- 57:22Guillain-Barre is very similar because I knew a guy who
- 57:27had that, and it was the same thing, and he
- 57:29was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre.
- 57:31Speaker 2: Does it go back?
- 57:31Speaker 1: Yeah, it went back.
- 57:33Speaker 3: It does say that.
- 57:34Speaker 1: Dice Clay had it for a while.
- 57:35Speaker 2: Really?
- 57:36Speaker 1: Yeah, Dice Clay had half of his face, and he
- 57:38was going on stage with it. He didn't give a fuck.
- 57:40Guillain-Barre syndrome, facial weakness or paralysis.
- 57:43Speaker 2: I bet you no one even noticed.
- 57:45Speaker 1: With Dice, he talked about it. He brought it up.
- 57:47Speaker 2: It was pretty obvious. That's what I'm saying. He was
- 57:48just fucking talking about that.
- 57:49Speaker 1: No, but it was pretty obvious. Like, half his face
- 57:51was like this. It was crazy. Half his face just
- 57:53wouldn't move.
- 57:54Speaker 3: Fuck.
- 57:54Speaker 1: You know?
- 57:57Speaker 2: Not good. Fucking shit happens, man. You got to just
- 58:01deal with things as they come.
- 58:03Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 58:03Speaker 2: You can't really, like, who the fuck knows what this
- 58:06world is about and why things happen, bro.
- 58:08Speaker 1: I'm just saying, be careful of ticks.
- 58:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 58:09Speaker 1: Because those bitches, they're trying to get you. And those
- 58:13little fuckers, a large percentage of them on the East
- 58:16Coast carry Lyme disease.
- 58:17Speaker 2: For sure. For sure. Yeah. They're diseased little pricks. I
- 58:22spray myself with a nice geranium spray.
- 58:25Speaker 1: Geranium?
- 58:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:26Speaker 2: There's an elixir. It's like a natural lavender, geranium oil,
- 58:30all kinds of shit that you spray on yourself that repels.
- 58:32Speaker 1: Are you sure that doesn't make them want to bite
- 58:34you more?
- 58:34Speaker 4: No, no.
- 58:34Speaker 2: It repels.
- 58:35Speaker 1: For sure?
- 58:35Speaker 2: It brings other things, but it takes those guys away.
- 58:38Speaker 1: It brings in ankle bracelets?
- 58:41Speaker 2: Yeah, bro. I got ankle bracelets and fucking Brahma Bull
- 58:45nose ring. When I was in Mexico City, I was dressed.
- 58:50I bought a fucking jade, like yade. It's from over there.
- 58:54I brought a jade necklace that was a little bit
- 58:56too tight. So it looked like a choker. Like a dog? Yeah,
- 59:00my boy told me I looked like I had my
- 59:02nipple pierced in the picture that I showed him. Yeah,
- 59:04I looked like a fucking bear. I had circular glasses.
- 59:09a scruff. You could see a little bit of this scruff. Two,
- 59:15two chokers. This is what I'm saying. You act different
- 59:18on vacation. Two, I had a fucking amber choker and
- 59:22a jade choker.
- 59:23Speaker 1: You would be killing it in the bear community. If
- 59:25you ever want to switch teams, you would dominate the
- 59:28bear community. Right? Just do it for fun.
- 59:31Speaker 2: Like, fuck it. We'll fuck some guys up. What's up?
- 59:35Speaker 1: What were we just asking? What was the question? I
- 59:40thought I had a question.
- 59:41Speaker 2: I forgot. You got all off track with that comment.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Yeah. It's Bear Talk.
- 59:46Speaker 2: Bear Talk 101. What were we.
- 59:48Speaker 1: Just talking about before that, though? Bugs.
- 59:53Speaker 3: Right.
- 59:54Speaker 1: Bugs.
- 59:54Speaker 2: Ticks.
- 59:55Speaker 1: Ticks. Lyme disease. Guillain-Barre. There's another one that's out now.
- 1:00:01There's another disease that's out that people are getting called alpha-gal,
- 1:00:04and it's from a tick called the Lone Star tick,
- 1:00:06and it makes you allergic to red meat. That one
- 1:00:11you cannot get, my friend.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: No, that's fucked up. I don't want that.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: That is not for you.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: No.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: That would ruin everything in your life.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Bro, I've been eating so many fucking bone-in fillets. It's
- 1:00:19been crazy.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I can't get that tick.
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: I need those gains.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: There's no other gains like that, right?
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: Bison. I've been eating a lot of, like, gains things,
- 1:00:28I guess. My diet is sweet potatoes and game.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: There you go. Sweet potatoes. Phenomenal.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: That's what I exchanged the pasta for the sweet potato.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Do you eat rice?
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: A little bit. A touch. A touch. Is that no good?
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: I hear conflicting things. I like it.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: White rice.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that I eat that I like.
- 1:00:51I just eat them because I like it. Like, when
- 1:00:53I'm eating spaghetti, I'm under no illusion.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know what you're eating.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I'm not under an illusion.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: You like a good pasta. I know that.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: I do, I do.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Evan Funk pasta, right?
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: I know you like a good Evan Funk pasta.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: That dude, that dude can cook.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: I had him on my show early on, like, before
- 1:01:08all his, like, his success and just kicked it off.
- 1:01:12I loved his, he's a fucking trip.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: He's the man. And he is.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: When you care like that.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Aficionado, yeah.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: There's another guy, Stefan Secchi in New York. Oh, my God.
- 1:01:22Stefano Cecchi is another sicko. Make amazing al Matarano. You know,
- 1:01:27it's all about the wooden dowel. That's how they make
- 1:01:30the pasta. It's all old style. Nothing extruded. All with
- 1:01:36the thing. Yeah. With the Matarano. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: Evans places, you can watch them make the pasta. You know,
- 1:01:43he's got Mother Wolf. He's got Funk. Is it Funky
- 1:01:46or Funk? How do you pronounce it?
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: I have no idea. I call him Funk. It's like
- 1:01:49Terry Funk.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: Right. Probably Funk.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: I thought he was Terry Funk's cousin.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: Are they making tortellini here?
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: No, that's Stefano. Oh, my God.
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: Look how good that looks.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: This man right here, when I went to Osteria Francescana
- 1:02:03in Modena.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: I love how you said that.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Massimo Battura's place. It was like the number one restaurant
- 1:02:10for many years. He was the chef there that was
- 1:02:12making all the food. He was like a young man.
- 1:02:14And then when he opened his restaurant, Resdor, in New York,
- 1:02:17it was like, He takes such good care of my
- 1:02:20mother as well. Like, yo, they just go above and beyond.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: He's a beautiful guy. This is art. Like, the way
- 1:02:27he's making this food, this is art. This is a
- 1:02:29work of art. He's performing art.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: Who do I have? I had fucking Devin Haney in
- 1:02:33the kitchen with me making pasta with him.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: Oh, really?
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: That's crazy. You know, I like to bring these guys
- 1:02:37in and do weird things.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: That's awesome. Devin Haney making pasta. Bro, Yuri, bro. I know.
- 1:02:48Holy fucking shit.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: That was crazy.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: Crazy. What an animal. Well, I mean— How ridiculous. That
- 1:02:54was so— it' s like.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: You kind of got to look at it two ways.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: I saw it happening, right? Like, oh shit, yeah.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: You got to look at it two ways. One, you
- 1:03:02got to look at it from Yuri's perspective. Like, he
- 1:03:05had it there. The fight was over. The guy was hurt.
- 1:03:08But you also look at it from Carlos' perspective. Carlos
- 1:03:12Olberg is hurt. He can't move his right leg. They're
- 1:03:14probably going to stop it in between rounds. And Uri,
- 1:03:18he can't move. So Uri's just pot-shotting him. And he's
- 1:03:22kicking his one good leg. He's kicking his one good leg.
- 1:03:25And then, boom, he clips him with a left hook.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: I mean, with the one punch that he's known for.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Not just that.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: The step-back hook.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: The one punch that you can throw if your right
- 1:03:35leg is hurt. A check hook.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: Because when you, the check hook is one of the, like,
- 1:03:41Alexander Volkanovsky actually did a really good breakdown of this
- 1:03:45on YouTube. But what he was talking about is the
- 1:03:47check hook, you put all the weight on the front
- 1:03:49leg a lot. Because as the person's coming, a lot
- 1:03:52of the weight as you uncork the punch is on
- 1:03:54that front leg. And Olberg, that's a snake. Like the
- 1:03:58way he throws that left hook is so fast.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: It was perfect.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: It was the perfect punch.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: He threw one just to get the distance on the
- 1:04:07first one and then clipped him again.
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: Perfect.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: But Yuri, man, it looked like I watched. I know
- 1:04:14you were watching as well, watching in real time. But
- 1:04:16it just looked like he got upset that he hurt
- 1:04:19his knee and he.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: Was like, fuck, fuck. He clearly did get upset. I
- 1:04:22really do think that he got upset. I do think
- 1:04:25that's true.
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: But it makes no difference on.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Carlos got him. Yeah, Carlos got him.
- 1:04:30He fucked up.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: That's a clean win.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: But that's part. Yeah, it's part of fighting. Like, you
- 1:04:34have to be ruthless. Like Khalil Roundtree is one of
- 1:04:38the nicest guys you're ever going to meet. When he
- 1:04:40fought Modestus Bukakis, he sidekicked his knee sideways and blew
- 1:04:43it apart.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: That was nuts.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: And Khalil is one of the nicest guys alive. But
- 1:04:48when you're in there, he's trying to do it to you.
- 1:04:50You're trying to do it to him. And if his
- 1:04:52leg gets blown out, you have to take advantage of
- 1:04:54it because he would take advantage of it on you.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: I've been watching for a long time. I've been watching
- 1:04:58Khalil for a long time since the beginning. I remember
- 1:05:01the change when he went to Thailand. There was this change.
- 1:05:05He came back from Thailand and that's what he did.
- 1:05:08That was his first fight when he was fucking.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: The first fight was Eric Anders.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and he looked totally different.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: Yeah, me and DC were like, what happened? Right? Because
- 1:05:17he was always good.
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: With the front leg and just like all tight movements.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: He was super sharp. He was super sharp.
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: That was nuts.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's it. Oh, my God. So horrible. So
- 1:05:28horrible to watch. Oh, my God. Just perfect sidekick to
- 1:05:31the knee. Just blew his shit apart. That guy was
- 1:05:34out for over a year.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of the gnarliest.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: Oh, it's so nasty when you see it sideways.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: Oh, because it started at the thigh.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: I don't want to see it, Jamie. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Oh, bro, it started at the thigh.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: Show me some Khalil Rountree versus Eric Anders. So Eric
- 1:05:51Anders is one of the toughest fucking human beings to
- 1:05:54ever live.
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Because he was getting lit up. His legs were getting destroyed,
- 1:05:59and he never even flinched. He never even made an
- 1:06:02owl face. It was never like, there's nothing. He just...
- 1:06:06dead stoic the entire time. And then I asked him afterwards, oh,
- 1:06:10fuck yeah, that shit hurt.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: But guys like Eric Anders, he's been in the UFC
- 1:06:14for 10 years.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Decent career.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: Super smart guy. Invested his money, bought a bunch of houses.
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: Oh, really?
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: Very clever.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: Oh, that's great.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: Very smart. Yeah, he's smart. That's good to know. Yeah,
- 1:06:23he's planning. And he's just a cool dude to talk to,
- 1:06:26but When Khalil came, like, we were looking at him.
- 1:06:29It's like he's moving like a tie, like the hand movements, everything.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Yeah, he came back totally different.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: That light front foot.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: It was like full-on Muay Thai. And Khalil's always been
- 1:06:38super fast. Like, one of his strengths is that he
- 1:06:42can hit guys before they even calculate. Like, his speed
- 1:06:46when he's, like, really going after you, like in the
- 1:06:48Jamal Hill fight, he's got speed that confuses guys because
- 1:06:51they're like, oh, shit, like, you've got to recalibrate because
- 1:06:54this guy moves faster than any of the middleweights.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Nasty elbows.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: And he's a light heavyweight.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: He's nasty, like, just. He's like, well, I shouldn't say to.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: Any middleweight, but he moves like a middleweight. That's what
- 1:07:04I should say. He's got, like, middleweight speed but a
- 1:07:07light heavyweight frame. And he just started lighting them up
- 1:07:12with like pure Thai technique. And this was the perfect
- 1:07:15kind of showcase for him because Eric's not like a
- 1:07:17big wrestler.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: Eric's kind of a brawler. Oh, yeah.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: And with a guy like Khalil, especially since Eric fights southpaw.
- 1:07:25So when you fight southpaw and Khalil fights southpaw, it
- 1:07:28really opens up that left leg to get attacked or
- 1:07:32the right leg, excuse me, to get attacked. Because your
- 1:07:35power leg is behind you, whereas you're fighting normal people
- 1:07:37that are orthodox. It's usually you have to kick them
- 1:07:40with an inside kick if you're a southpaw. But southpaw
- 1:07:43to southpaw like this, Khalil just can light that leg
- 1:07:46on fire. Oh, it was fucking– but it was the
- 1:07:51sound it was making. Like when we were there, it.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: Was like slap. This was memorably different.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: Well, he had just gotten really tuned in, man. When
- 1:07:59he was in Thailand, he got really tuned in. Particularly– oh,
- 1:08:02you already got it in the second round. It's particularly
- 1:08:04the first round.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: He got tuned up before this, right, which made him
- 1:08:06go there, which made him go to Thailand.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: Johnny Walker.
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: So Johnny Walker clipped him with an elbow from the clinch.
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: He hit him with a Thai elbow and KO'd him.
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: Back when Johnny Walker was very explosive and Johnny Walker
- 1:08:19was very wild. He fought wild. He fights more calculated now.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: I feel like after the worm, it was a wrap.
- 1:08:26After he hurt himself.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: That worm thing was crazy.
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: The shoulder is one of the worst things to hurt
- 1:08:32and then get surgery on it. It never comes back, right?
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: He blew it apart, too.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: Doing the worm.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: You can't make that shit up, bro. Was that Mishus
- 1:08:40or Kornoff? I don't know who he fought during that fight,
- 1:08:47but it was– he fought a good guy. And it's
- 1:08:49like Johnny Walker, when he was winning in the early
- 1:08:54days of his fights in the UFC, he was just, yeah.
- 1:08:57It's Cirkunov, right? Yeah.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Like, that kind of shit.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: Like, these flying elbows. Like, wild, reckless. But he got
- 1:09:03KO'd a few times by some really technical people. And
- 1:09:06then he tried to be, yeah, right there. Like, he
- 1:09:11fucked his elbow up or his shoulder up.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: I've jumped on the bed like that and hurt my
- 1:09:14fucking arm. You know, when you jump on the bed.
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Yeah, he blew it apart.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: You forget that your arm is connected.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: He fell like that and like immediately blew his shoulder out. God,
- 1:09:24it's so silly.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: Fucking horrible. Look at him. Looks like he KO'd himself.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: Oh, you can see it pop out.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Terrible, bro.
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: Terrible. Some people just shoot themselves in the dick. I know,
- 1:09:35they do.
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of people that do. A lot
- 1:09:38of people ruin their life for no fucking reason. They
- 1:09:41can't help it.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: I go through life trying not to shoot myself in
- 1:09:45the dick.
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. It's like one of my cardinal rules.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: Cardinal.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: I think everybody should abide by that. Don't shoot yourself
- 1:09:51in the dick, if you can avoid it.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: If you can avoid it. If not, there you go.
- 1:09:55Thank you, sir. You're welcome.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: But, you know, fighters are wild people. They're doing a
- 1:09:59wild thing. Like, it's part of what makes them great
- 1:10:02is that they take these crazy chances. They're just nuts.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: What am I, silly?
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Oh, you lift the top.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Where?
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: The top top. It flips back. There you go. And
- 1:10:12then push that button up. There you go.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: There it is. I'm used to a torch.
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: I hear you.
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: I'm excited for this.
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: The Yuri thing was like, sorry. No, no. The Yuri
- 1:10:25thing was like, I understand his perspective, you know, that
- 1:10:29he did fuck up and he could have attacked and
- 1:10:31been smarter. But you can't have that excuse. He really
- 1:10:36was upset. You could tell he was upset right when.
- 1:10:39Carlos Oberg's knee blew out. But here's the thing that
- 1:10:42impressed me the most.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: He's upset at him for fucking blowing his knee out.
- 1:10:45What are you going to do?
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: Well, he was upset at the moment, right? He wanted
- 1:10:47it to be a clean victory, right? But Carlos wasn't upset.
- 1:10:52That was what I was most impressed with. That guy
- 1:10:54never lost composure. He tried a switch kick, a jumping
- 1:10:57switch kick to the head.
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: To see if it worked.
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: And his leg fell out again and he fell down
- 1:11:01again and scrambled. But he never lost composure. He never
- 1:11:06showed anxiety in his face. Just a stone-cold killer looking
- 1:11:10for his moment, and he found it. Those guys.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Yep. CKB guys.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: That's a world champion. For real. That's a world champion.
- 1:11:15I mean, that's how you really become a world champion.
- 1:11:18You have a blown-out knee, and you find a way
- 1:11:21to KO a guy who's this wild, aggressive, awkward dude,
- 1:11:26you know, and he's coming after you. You got a
- 1:11:27blown-out knee, and you just blink. Perfect fucking left hook.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: Perfect. Those guys from the South Pacific are a different breed.
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: Well, he certainly is.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: I mean, he's got phenomenal camp. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:11:40The camp is unheard of.
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: Yeah, the camp is phenomenal. Eugene Behrman, the guy who's
- 1:11:45the head coach, super fucking smart dude.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: I went down there 2018. I went down there and
- 1:11:51I saw Izzy before the Brunson fight. And it was
- 1:11:56like in the old CKB and I had them come
- 1:11:58through and Eugene came out. I was DJing in New
- 1:12:02Zealand for an evening at my friend's restaurant, and I
- 1:12:05had him come out. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it was dope.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool. You were DJing at a restaurant?
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: I was DJing. I play all kinds of fucking weird
- 1:12:1370s funk African music, Brazilian music. I just happened to
- 1:12:18be down there, and everyone came through. It was a
- 1:12:20good time.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: Oh, here's something that people are saying is real that's not,
- 1:12:23but I found out today. Everyone's saying that Hamza Chamayev
- 1:12:26and Gordon Ryan are going to wrestle. It's not true.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: RAF? Yeah. I like RAF.
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: I like RAF, too.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: I like this. It's like something new and exciting.
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: Sure.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: I don't particularly love the action. I like wrestling, but
- 1:12:40it's not as exciting as the entirety of the event.
- 1:12:45You understand?
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Right. I know what you're saying.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: The press conference, the people involved, the actual moves. I
- 1:12:52prefer fighting and just a different type of combat.
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: But it still gets me going. I enjoy it a lot.
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: Look, it's the most important skill in MMA.
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: It's the most important skill, but I like when you
- 1:13:03mix it. I don't like it singularly more than anything else.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: I understand. But the reality is in order to be
- 1:13:12at an elite level, you have to do it by itself.
- 1:13:14I think for the most part.
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: 100%.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: George St. Pierre might be an example of a guy
- 1:13:19who violates that law because George didn't really wrestle in
- 1:13:22college or high school. He learned how to wrestle from
- 1:13:25a bunch of Russian nationals in Montreal.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: Well, that works also.
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: If you didn't start wrestling when you're five years old,
- 1:13:31that's the other way to do it. Two, three years, Dagestan,
- 1:13:34that's it, right?
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: Yeah, two, three years, Dagestan, forget it.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: And forget. I mean, I'm excited for Khamzat and Sean
- 1:13:43Strickland because it'll be in Newark. I'm going to be there. Yeah,
- 1:13:46for sure, dog. I'll be right there.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: I'll be there, too.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be there. The White House thing, I'm excited for, too.
- 1:13:53I want to ask to go, but I don't know.
- 1:13:55It seems like a lot of fucking hoopla. I might
- 1:13:58just watch it on TV.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: I would watch that on TV if I wasn't working there.
- 1:14:02I think the Strickland and Hamzat fight is going to
- 1:14:06be very interesting. Strickland is not an easy guy to
- 1:14:09take down, and he's not an easy guy to hold down,
- 1:14:12and he's a very difficult guy to hit on his feet.
- 1:14:14He's got a super awkward style. His style is very clever.
- 1:14:20It's very different. It's not something that's easy to replicate
- 1:14:23as far as timing.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: In the gym. He reminds me of B-Hop.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: A little bit, right?
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: He reminds me of B-Hop, but just a little bit
- 1:14:28more– not sloppy, just a little bit more– Loose. Loose
- 1:14:33and wild.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: Yeah, loose and wild, and then also it's because he
- 1:14:36has other options. It's because he's kicking. It's because he's
- 1:14:39taking you down. His teeps, those front kicks are great.
- 1:14:41His teep off his front legs, phenomenal.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: He just throws good straight punches, man. Just good, hard,
- 1:14:46straight punches.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: His fucking jab is so accurate. People think of a
- 1:14:50jab as like, you know, it's not that big a deal.
- 1:14:53That guy thumps you in the face with a jab three,
- 1:14:55four times. You're kind of fucked. Your nose is broken.
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: Bleeding or at least bleeding.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: Well, there's three kinds of jabs. There's the soft one.
- 1:15:01Then there's that step in. There's a fucking hard jab.
- 1:15:04You know, he throws them all.
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: Yeah. That guy, Asimov Mazurkanov.
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: He just lost to Paulo Costa. But that guy has
- 1:15:13one of the most evil jabs. He like steps forward
- 1:15:16and he like jab hooks at you.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: Yeah, he turns that.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: It's almost like a hook.
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: And he knocked out, fuck, what is his name?
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: Rokic.
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: He knocked out Rokic with that one punch. Just stepped
- 1:15:28in with a jab.
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: Rokic's chin went a couple fights ago. But, you know,
- 1:15:33Rokic has been in some wars. He's an animal.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: It was a good fight until that moment. But Mazurkanov,
- 1:15:40I was so impressed that he just wouldn't abandon that
- 1:15:44strategy of going after Paulo Costa.
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: I mean, Paulo looked good.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: He looked fucking phenomenal. If I was in his corner,
- 1:15:52I would say, dude, never go back to middleweight. You
- 1:15:54are a fucking light heavyweight champion.
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: He's ridiculous. 100%.
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: He's a light heavyweight champion.
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: One million percent.
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: And while this guy, while Carlos Olberg is going to
- 1:16:02be out for a year because he's going to have
- 1:16:04to get ACL reconstruction, Paulo Costa could be the interim
- 1:16:08light heavyweight champion. Like, no doubt, man. I really think
- 1:16:12he could pull that off. Dude, at light heavyweight, he's
- 1:16:14fucking terrifying.
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: It's crazy to go to... He looks like the Holocaust
- 1:16:17of old. Oh, man.
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: When he was destroying people on his way up to
- 1:16:21the ranks, man.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. To see him go from there
- 1:16:24and then to have those little hiccups and shit like that,
- 1:16:27and it almost seemed like he was a joke at
- 1:16:28one point when Izzy humped him and just made him
- 1:16:31look fucking so less than as a human being when
- 1:16:35he's really just... Izzy mind-fucked him.
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: Izzy mind-fucked him.
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: He fucking... Yeah. He mind-fucked him for years.
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: He fucked him over for a couple years, right? For
- 1:16:41a couple years. That's how crazy that fight was.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: He's just coming back now. The Luke Rockhold... I think
- 1:16:46helped him. But even Luke almost fucking knocked him out.
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: Bro, that was a great fight. Holy shit.
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: Why you put that in Utah? Wasn't it in Utah?
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: High altitude. Yeah, good point. Yeah.
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: If that was somewhere else, I don't know.
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: Well, it was a great fight.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: And that was like. Luke's like last really great performance
- 1:17:04where he still looked like a world caliber fighter.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: But I think Hamzat against Azamat was the best Hamzat. Oh,
- 1:17:11excuse me. When I think Paulo, Paulo Costa against Azamat
- 1:17:14was the best Paulo Costa I've seen in a long time.
- 1:17:17I mean, he looked better because he looked physically stronger.
- 1:17:21Like being at light heavyweight didn't at all look like
- 1:17:24a stretch. In fact, he looked like a better place
- 1:17:26for him. Like when I was listening to the sound
- 1:17:28of his punches and his kicks, it was even harder
- 1:17:30than before. He didn't look fat at all. He looked
- 1:17:33like a perfect light heavyweight. I think he's probably, at
- 1:17:36least at this stage in his life, because I think
- 1:17:38Paulo's like 34 now.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: He has to be.
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: It would be way better for him to compete at
- 1:17:42light heavyweight. And 34 is a perfect prime, right?
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: Yeah. At light heavyweight, 34 is almost prime. Yes. Like
- 1:17:49at light heavyweight, that's a great age. Sure.
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: Well, that was like when Izzy was on top of shit.
- 1:17:53He was around 34. John Jones was a little younger. Well,
- 1:17:57John Jones was the youngest champion in history. That's a
- 1:18:00different guy. But when you look at Paulo Costa's performances
- 1:18:04and then you look at this last one, you're like,
- 1:18:06that might be the best Paulo Costa of all time.
- 1:18:08He looked fucking phenomenal. And he ate some big shots
- 1:18:12from Azamat and just didn't even flinch.
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: Didn't even flinch. I can't even imagine how that man
- 1:18:18cuts to 185. It's truly unbelievable. That muscle mass that
- 1:18:22goes away. During that, it's just like fully deplete your body.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: Yeah. I think him at 205 is really the way
- 1:18:29to go because I guarantee you he's probably walking around
- 1:18:31at about like 230 or something.
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: He might be a good fucking heavyweight too.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: He said if Derrick Lewis falls out of the White
- 1:18:39House card, he'll step in and fight at heavyweight.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: Well, it makes sense to fight Josh Hogan at that
- 1:18:43weight because they're both similar body types. I'm not similar.
- 1:18:46He's a lot more– How dare you? How dare you
- 1:18:48compare I meant weight-wise. They're both around 240, but they
- 1:18:53look a lot different.
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: A lot different. I don't know if Hogan's ready for
- 1:18:57that yet. That's crazy. Unless he can take Paulo down,
- 1:19:00he's going to get– that's a– It's fun. It'll be
- 1:19:04fun because he'll go after him.
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: He's going to go– he's giving– Curtis.
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: Blades is very different than Paulo Costa. When it comes
- 1:19:10to striking, Paulo Costa is fucking terrifying.
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: But I've also shook– how do you say?
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: Shooken?
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: Shake his hand?
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: I shook.
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: Curtis Blades' hand. Oh, the giant. It's fucking four times
- 1:19:22the size of a normal hand.
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: Curtis Blades is a huge dude.
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: To be punched by that hand that many times and
- 1:19:27to not go down is pretty impressive.
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: Well, also impressive for Curtis. Curtis had a blown out
- 1:19:32eye socket, a broken nose.
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: Curtis is the man. I love Curtis. He's a good dude.
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: He's got incredible heart. Incredible heart. He just did not,
- 1:19:40after all that shit that Josh Hoka talked, he did
- 1:19:42not want to lose that man. He gave everything he had.
- 1:19:45There was not a moment of quit. In that fight
- 1:19:48for Curtis.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have scored it for him if you wanted. Well,
- 1:19:52I don't think so. You could, but you could have.
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't
- 1:19:54think that would be reasonable. But he certainly gave a
- 1:19:58great account of himself. Yeah, but that's not fair.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: No, you're right. It's egregious. It could be.
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: He might have won a round, but the most important
- 1:20:05thing is that guy, he gave it what he had.
- 1:20:08He could be proud. He could be proud. That guy,
- 1:20:11there's no question at all. That guy left nothing. There
- 1:20:15was nothing left in the tank at the end of
- 1:20:16that third round. And that's all you could ever ask.
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: It's a fucking beautiful fight to watch, especially from heavyweights, man.
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: But it makes me sad, too, because I'm like, boy,
- 1:20:24you can only do a few of those.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: That's probably the last one.
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: I mean, I always go back to the Cain Velasquez,
- 1:20:31Junior Dos Santos ones.
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: Nasty. Nasty.
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: Those were so hard to watch, man.
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: It's nasty stuff.
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: Because Cain just didn't get tired. Being in there with
- 1:20:41a guy like Cain who didn't get tired, you're constantly
- 1:20:43getting punched in the face, constantly. And it's just nothing
- 1:20:45but heart keeps you there until the fifth round.
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: Kane, man. I just want to shake Kane's hand, give
- 1:20:52him a hug.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: He's out.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: We were trying to get him on the podcast before
- 1:20:57he went in, but the judge wouldn't allow it.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely have him on now, though. I love Kane.
- 1:21:03He's in my top. I don't think there's a goat,
- 1:21:05a real goat in heavyweight, because I think there's times
- 1:21:08where one guy would have beaten all the other guys.
- 1:21:12Of course. At times.
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: Everyone had their moments, though.
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in the GOAT category.
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: I would say in heavyweight, there's a GOAT category. You
- 1:21:20got to put Stipe in there because he defended the
- 1:21:23heavyweight title more than anybody. He beat Ngannou when Ngannou
- 1:21:26was in his fucking prime and got rocked a bunch
- 1:21:28of times.
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: Oh, that was a crazy fight, too.
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: Crazy fight. Crazy fight. Crazy fight. So you got to
- 1:21:33give it to him. He's always going to be in
- 1:21:36the GOAT category. Kane, Fedor, of course. Fedor is like...
- 1:21:41The real connoisseur, the real hardcore MMA heads, they're like
- 1:21:47Fedor is the GOAT.
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: He's the one.
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: I always say everybody forgets about Fabricio Verdum because Fabricio
- 1:21:52Verdum tapped Cain Velasquez, Minotauro Nogueira, and Fedor. And he
- 1:21:56tapped Fedor when Fedor was Fedor. Like everybody looks at
- 1:21:59a guy like when he lost a bunch of fights
- 1:22:02or they didn't go so well for him. And later
- 1:22:04in his career, he's in his late 30s. When you
- 1:22:07look at Fabricio Verdum in his prime– He's in that range, man.
- 1:22:12He beat Cain Velasquez. He beat Mark Hunt with a
- 1:22:15flying knee to win the title.
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: He has that resume. I mean, at that time, those
- 1:22:20were heavy hitters.
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: Bro, I mean, he beat the best of the best.
- 1:22:24He beat them all. And he tapped three of the
- 1:22:26all-time greats. Those are Minotauro, for sure, when he was
- 1:22:29in pride. He's in the GOAT category. But then you
- 1:22:32got to give it more, like Fedor's a notch above
- 1:22:35him because Fedor beat him and beat him with ground
- 1:22:37and pound. But then the other guys are Cain Velasquez. And,
- 1:22:41you know, you always got to think Kane, prime Kane
- 1:22:43against anybody ever. Man, who knows? Prime Kane was just
- 1:22:47an unstoppable tornado of punches and takedowns and no tired,
- 1:22:52no fatigue. It's not coming. Like, you think he's going
- 1:22:55to get tired? He's never going to get tired. He's
- 1:22:56going to keep punching you in the face. Top-tier wrestling.
- 1:22:59Top-tier wrestling. And fucking Fabricio tapped him, too.
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: And he's Mexican.
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Mexican. A lot of Mexicans have great cardio, man.
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: They have great cardio and unbelievable fucking heart and chin.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: I wonder if it's from high altitude genetics, you know?
- 1:23:15It's the genetics from warriors.
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: It's warrior genetics. Right.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: It's 100%.
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: 100%.
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: Volkanovski has the same thing, just from a different type
- 1:23:24of indigenous tribe, you know? Yes. The Macedonians and the
- 1:23:30crazy fucking... The up in the mountain people. Right. That
- 1:23:35are five, six with hands like fucking.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: Marab.
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: Marab.
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: Perfect example.
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: Warrior genetics.
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: 100%.
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: That dude. I've never. A lot of these athletes, if
- 1:23:48they had. It's like if they had a little size,
- 1:23:51they'd be playing any professional sport. Right. You know? Oh, yeah.
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: For sure. Especially if you have the mental toughness to
- 1:23:57reach championship level.
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: But I've also seen a lot of fighters can't throw
- 1:24:01a fuck in baseball. A lot of fighters, they can't
- 1:24:04do anything else. Like, I grew up playing baseball. I
- 1:24:07could play every single sport because of the dexterity baseball
- 1:24:10showed me. I feel like baseball and basketball are the
- 1:24:14main sports to show the child early to create dexterity.
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: That's a good sport for competitive drive, too.
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: And gymnastics. I've heard Khabib say that you keep your
- 1:24:26child in gymnastics until they're 10. Then they can do
- 1:24:28martial arts. I'm following father's plan.
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: Well, that's actually very smart because then you develop crazy
- 1:24:34body control.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It's fucking shredded. Six years old, shredded already, bro.
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: Right? From gymnastics.
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: I've never had an ab. Not even as a child.
- 1:24:45I've always had a fucking little bubba. I've always been
- 1:24:49a little bubba. Hey, man, it's part of your charm.
- 1:24:52It is, it is part of my charm. If I
- 1:24:53was shredded, I wouldn't be as likable.
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: You think so? Let's find out.
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: Let's find out, because I'll be fucking shirtless everywhere, posing.
- 1:25:01They might not like that. Try this one.
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: Yeah, this light is... Died out on me. Oh, I
- 1:25:09buy them new, and they still die out quick.
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: Gotta get you a torch.
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: This is a.
- 1:25:14Speaker 2: That's like a mini, that's like a little... You gotta
- 1:25:16get you the... Like a mini welder. Mmm. The mini
- 1:25:21welding one works well. Whoa. Underwater welding torches for the cigars.
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: So this Hamzat and Strickland thing, to me, it's going
- 1:25:30to be what can Hamzat do on the feet? Can
- 1:25:33he clip them? And can Strickland stop the takedown?
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: I don't even, like, it's so hard to even think
- 1:25:41anybody could stop Hamzat right now at anything. It's true.
- 1:25:45It's like you're not even going to get to throw
- 1:25:47hands at him. He's just going to be smiling, laughing.
- 1:25:48You think he's going to fucking take you down. And
- 1:25:51manhandle you like no one's ever been manhandled before.
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: His timing and his takedowns is fucking insane.
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: It's so good.
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: Watching the training, the speed. And he's like, it's equivalent
- 1:26:02to like Allen Iverson doing a crossover. He's doing it
- 1:26:06with that type of like flair.
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: If I was going to make an argument against it,
- 1:26:12I would say he's handling guys that don't have a
- 1:26:15big background in elite wrestling. They're not like elite grapplers.
- 1:26:19The guy that he fought that was an elite grappler
- 1:26:21gave him problems. Gilbert Burns, right? Gilbert Burns, for sure.
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns fucked him up, too.
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: He did, but that was like more stand-up fucking him up.
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gilbert Burns, if you took him down.
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: Gilbert can get back up to his feet.
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: He's one of the most elite players on the floor, right?
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Yes, especially back then. Gilbert just retired.
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: Congratulations, Gilbert.
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: Tremendous career.
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: Tremendous. But they were banging it out, and Hamzat fought
- 1:26:45a completely different kind of fight. He tried to slug
- 1:26:47it out, and I think his ego got in the
- 1:26:48way because Gilbert clipped him a couple times.
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: A couple times. Dropped him, rocked him. Gilbert was a
- 1:26:53wild boy. I was fucking screaming during that one.
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: In his prime, Gilbert was so fucking game. He was
- 1:27:00so dangerous, man. He knocks people out. So I was
- 1:27:04going to say Kamaru. Kamaru Usman. And that was a
- 1:27:07short notice fight that Kamaru took at 185. Unbelievable fight.
- 1:27:10And in the third round, Kamaru was winning. I was like,
- 1:27:12this would have been very interesting if it was a
- 1:27:14five-round fight. 100%.
- 1:27:15Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean, it's hard to predict, but
- 1:27:18Kamaru had the, he had the momentum 100%.
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: If it was a five-round fight and if Kamaru had
- 1:27:23a full camp. Because when you're taking a fight on
- 1:27:25that short notice like that, you don't trust in your wind.
- 1:27:29Like you would trust in your wind if you just
- 1:27:30went through 12 weeks of hell. where you just know
- 1:27:33you're in fucking tippy top.
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: Was his knee barking also?
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: I'm sure his knee's always barking. He's such a warrior.
- 1:27:39When he gets in there, he fights like it doesn't matter.
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they were in the wrestling positions
- 1:27:43for a while where he wasn't able to really do much. Well,
- 1:27:47he defended.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: He defended. Hamzat wasn't able to do anything to him.
- 1:27:50Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It was like a stalemate kind
- 1:27:51of thing. They were just like there.
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: Where with everybody else, Hamzat basically ragdolls them, mounts them, gets.
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: Them down, submits them. Kevin Holland just rolls you around.
- 1:27:58It was like a fucking video game, like Rolling Thunder.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: That was crazy. And him and Kevin Holland had so
- 1:28:03many words before that too. So there was a lot
- 1:28:05of anger in that. That was crazy.
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: That was a wild one.
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: That was really crazy. And they had gotten some sort
- 1:28:12of an altercation before that at another event. So there
- 1:28:15was bad blood there. So it was like Homsite just
- 1:28:18wanted to prove a point.
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: These guys aren't really playing. They play by a different
- 1:28:23set of rules coming from that block.
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fucking war zone.
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: That's a different block.
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: It's a war zone, son. They're used to actual fights.
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: Yeah, like to stay alive.
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scary shit, man. That's a fight, though.
- 1:28:38It's a really interesting fight. We're going to know real soon,
- 1:28:41like early on in the fight, whether or not Strickland
- 1:28:44can avoid the takedown and whether or not Hamzat can
- 1:28:47hit him and whether or not he can avoid getting
- 1:28:49hit because Strickland will set some traps. He's sneaky with
- 1:28:51his striking. Very clever. Very clever with his striking.
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: I mean, also, Hamzat had the issue coming off of that.
- 1:29:00Over COVID, he had that long, long COVID where his
- 1:29:04lungs were fucked for.
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: A while, right? Well, you know what that was? He
- 1:29:07wouldn't stop training. So he got COVID and trained hard
- 1:29:10like a fucking psychopath all through COVID to the point
- 1:29:13where he was getting bleeding out of his lungs.
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: Oh, no fucking shit.
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: He was coughing up blood. Apparently, he's an animal. They
- 1:29:20just can't keep him out of the gym. They just
- 1:29:22can't keep him out of the gym. And so he
- 1:29:24kept training while he had COVID, and it got real
- 1:29:26bad to the point where he was hospitalized.
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: That's a different type of level of being able to just, like,
- 1:29:33push past, like, physical sickness. Because COVID fucked up.
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: Push past to the point where you're almost dead. Yeah,
- 1:29:40but also, like— And you're still showing up doing rounds.
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: I think I had mentioned this, but I was training
- 1:29:45with Plinio and Pereira before the first Ancalaya fight, and
- 1:29:49we got sick the same way.
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Neuro. Neuro.
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: Everyone, like, I was sick.
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: Norovirus, right?
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: Yo, bro, I was fucking so sick. And he went
- 1:29:58and did the fight. Did the whole thing. He was
- 1:30:00as sick as me, apparently.
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: That was that first Uncle I fight.
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: The first Uncle I fight. I fucking literally was knocked
- 1:30:06out for 10 days. And this motherfucker's training, traveling, and
- 1:30:11fighting for the championship. And it wasn't a Pereira fight,
- 1:30:16but it was not. Horrible?
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: No, it wasn't terrible. He lost. But then the second fight,
- 1:30:22I was like, holy shit.
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: I see them training now, bro. He looks like a
- 1:30:27fucking behemoth at 250.
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: He's in 260s now.
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: Holy shit.
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: They weighed in at 263.
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: Bro, him at 263 is scary.
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: It's nuts. That guy fought at 185 just a couple
- 1:30:40years ago.
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: Well, this is his true body type. He's meant to
- 1:30:44be a cowboy, you know what I mean? He's like
- 1:30:46a fucking Brazilian cowboy.
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: Amazon warrior jeans. Same shit we're talking about. That's what
- 1:30:51he is.
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: It's the bone density stuff. It's not. It's like, it's true.
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: Genetics.
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: Indigeney. It's true. Indigeney. You look at certain people and
- 1:31:00you see the past.
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: I see.
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: Warriors. Bro.
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: When that song comes out.
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: It's... Chants were made to excite, to conjure up spirit.
- 1:31:14That's what he fucking does. He's conjuring up spirit. That's
- 1:31:17why Yuri was so scared of the black man. He
- 1:31:19was going to shrink his head.
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: Yuri asked him in the second fight to not use
- 1:31:26spiritual warfare.
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: So good. There's no movie that could write this type
- 1:31:33of script. I love this shit.
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt bad for Uri, but I felt great
- 1:31:38for Carlos at the same time.
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: I love that whole team. Ash and all those boys
- 1:31:43out there. Yeah, they're great guys. I like those guys.
- 1:31:46It's like, look, I get it. It's a hard pill
- 1:31:49to swallow.
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: I get it. You did back off. I get it.
- 1:31:52But also, that.
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: Guy just— You can only blame yourself on that one, man.
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: He found a way to win. found a way to
- 1:31:58win in the most spectacular way possible.
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: That's the only thing that should really be spoken about
- 1:32:03is his will and his ability to fight through that. Bro,
- 1:32:08torn ACL, they're carting you off the fucking field.
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: Everyone's crying that their career's over in football, carting you
- 1:32:15off the field with your heads like that. I know.
- 1:32:18This dude's fucking knocking homie out for the light heavyweight championship.
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: Of the world. Fucking crazy.
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: So to have that type of, Will and you, you
- 1:32:26could only just be mesmerized by that. I know.
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: It's nuts, man. Think about it. Like how many great
- 1:32:33fights are out there to be had, how many great
- 1:32:35fights have been had. I mean those moments like that,
- 1:32:38that's like you can't– that's one of the things that
- 1:32:41makes a sport so exciting. Like you couldn't have imagined
- 1:32:45that he would blow his knee out. And then you
- 1:32:46could have imagined that Uri would pause and not know
- 1:32:49what to do. And then you couldn't have imagined that
- 1:32:51Carlos would knock him out. Perfectly.
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: Let me ask you something about the footing in the octagon.
- 1:32:57Did his foot slip? Was this slippery in there?
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: I think it was just a placement issue.
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: He placed it wrong.
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes in scrambles, you know, you're moving weird. So
- 1:33:06he overextended, he missed the spot. It looks like it
- 1:33:08just blew out, man.
- 1:33:10Speaker 2: Because that shit just waved.
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: There's a video of Carlos blowing his knee out, and
- 1:33:14it looks like, They're in the middle of a wild exchange.
- 1:33:18He moves his foot in a certain way, and it
- 1:33:20just pops. And you can see it go up the
- 1:33:22back of his leg. It just snapped up.
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: It was nasty.
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: It's nasty. Yeah, it's horrible. And it's going to take
- 1:33:27a long time for that thing to be better again.
- 1:33:29But he won. He's the world champion. And then Paolo Costa,
- 1:33:34interim champion. If I was the fucking captain of the ship,
- 1:33:38that's what I would do. I'd go, hey, Paolo, you're
- 1:33:40a fucking star. Maybe Yankolayev. I mean, I know Paolo.
- 1:33:45I know that Pereira just knocked him out, but he
- 1:33:48deserves to be in it. So here it is. So
- 1:33:50he placed his leg weird and pushed off, and it
- 1:33:52just blew out. See?
- 1:33:54Speaker 2: It looked like he was on— Just a freak movement.
- 1:33:56He didn't step on the paw of the foot. He
- 1:33:59stepped more on the inside like that, like the angle
- 1:34:03of the step.
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: Well, it was definitely weird because they're in the middle
- 1:34:07of a scramble, you know? But look at him.
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: And look at his athleticism right there, the way he
- 1:34:12just spun off that and stayed on that left leg. Yeah,
- 1:34:15now that's nasty.
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: When that happens, your leg is just so unstable. The
- 1:34:22crazy thing is there's guys in the UFC that fight
- 1:34:25with no ACL. They have no ACL and they fight
- 1:34:28in the UFC. I know Rafael Dos Anjos was doing
- 1:34:32that for a while. He had no ACL and he
- 1:34:34was fighting in the UFC.
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: I mean, was that during his decline?
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: He was still pretty close to the top. He had
- 1:34:42lost the title, but he was still pretty close to
- 1:34:44the top. We were still fucking a lot of people up.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: He's just another breed also.
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: Well, that guy, the conditioning. That guy was sculpted. Dos
- 1:34:53Anjos in his prime looked like somebody made him out
- 1:34:55of marble. He looked like he belonged at the Vatican.
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: Every time I tell people I'm going to come see you,
- 1:35:02they always say, yo, can you ask him this? Can
- 1:35:04you ask him that? I started fielding questions for you.
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: For what?
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: For you getting those questions from me.
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: No, I like it.
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: Oh, you do?
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: I like it. What are the questions? Because they're so ridiculous.
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: What's the most ridiculous one?
- 1:35:16Speaker 2: I don't remember. It's all silly. But one good one
- 1:35:18is like, when are you going to have Mirko Krokop here?
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: Oh, I actually talked to him. I was in Croatia.
- 1:35:22Because my boy- During the summer. And I talked to him.
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: Lives in the same neighborhood as him that I trained with,
- 1:35:26my boy Dean. He's literally a Croatian. He looks like
- 1:35:30fucking Mirko.
- 1:35:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: Throws the leg. Bald-headed fucking. He looks like he's- Like
- 1:35:36he's driving BMW M5 for sure.
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: I would definitely have Mirko on. He's a legend.
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: Need to hear from him.
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a legend and he's very funny. I've seen
- 1:35:47him in interviews before.
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: I was wondering whether he spoke English or not, but
- 1:35:50he speaks pretty perfectly.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: Good enough. Yeah, definitely good enough to have a conversation.
- 1:35:54I was watching him versus Fedor today.
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: That was a crazy fight.
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: I think that was like 2000. Look at the man.
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: Jack. That's unbelievable right there.
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: How old is Mirko now?
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: That's a recent picture? Yeah, four days, three days ago.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: Dude's in phenomenal shape. I mean, he's got to be 50.
- 1:36:13How old is Mirko now?
- 1:36:14Speaker 2: That stuff doesn't go away when it's real, man. 51.
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: 51.
- 1:36:19Speaker 2: Shredded. That's unbelievable.
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: Shredded, son. Yeah, he was an animal. In his prime, boy,
- 1:36:25he was the first kickboxer to really start doing well
- 1:36:30in MMA because he was so explosive. See, a lot
- 1:36:33of the other guys, like Ernesto Hoost or Peter Aerts,
- 1:36:36They were real technical, but they set things up.
- 1:36:38Speaker 2: Slappers for the most.
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: They were setting things up.
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: Setting it up, yeah.
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: But with Mirko, he would just explode on you.
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: Fucking explode your liver, explode your head with those fucking kicks, man.
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: He was so fast and so explosive that when he
- 1:36:52entered into MMA, he had a kind of advantage. This
- 1:36:55is back when they let him fight with shoes on.
- 1:36:57Mirko with shoes on is a crazy proposition.
- 1:36:59Speaker 2: That's nuts.
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: I've seen... I see a guy like this and I go,
- 1:37:04that's a giant.
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a giant. But I mean... Kong Man Choi.
- 1:37:07He was like seven plus feet tall.
- 1:37:08Speaker 3: So when you find a skeleton of a person like this... Oh, yeah. Yeah,
- 1:37:12giants are real.
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, definitely.
- 1:37:13Speaker 3: They're around now, too.
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: Right, definitely. Yeah.
- 1:37:16Speaker 2: But he doesn't look like he has gigantism.
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: No, he does. No, he does, but he.
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: No, but you know, like, most of those guys are unathletic.
- 1:37:25Their knees are knocking.
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: He doesn't seem unathletic.
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: You know, he has more of like... He looks like he's...
- 1:37:33kind of on his toes.
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: Moves well.
- 1:37:36Speaker 2: Yeah, like his legs are working in the right way.
- 1:37:38He has proper athleticism.
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: Well, there's another guy that beat Fedor. Bigfoot Silver.
- 1:37:43Speaker 2: Bigfoot, yeah, but he looked like he had fucking giant face.
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: Yeah, he had it.
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: NBA, Victor Wimonyama is.
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: Again, Wemba Nyama's legs.
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: Seven foot four. That's crazy.
- 1:37:53Speaker 2: It doesn't look like he moves as well as he does.
- 1:37:56Speaker 3: He's 22 years old.
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: He's a fucking praying mantis, this kid.
- 1:37:58Speaker 3: He shouldn't be able to do this stuff. He dribbles
- 1:37:59behind his back. He shoots threes.
- 1:38:02Speaker 2: Bro, do you watch the NBA?
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: Seven foot four is crazy. It's crazy.
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: Do you watch the NBA, though?
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: Sometimes.
- 1:38:07Speaker 2: All right. 7'4 is different when you weigh 190 pounds. Right.
- 1:38:11You know, 7'4 like Rick Smits back in the day
- 1:38:15or like dudes who have a little weight on them
- 1:38:16look different. This guy is– He's 235. But that's unbelievable.
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: You don't believe that? He probably is.
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: No, he's 235.
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: He's so big.
- 1:38:25Speaker 3: He's still getting bigger too. He's got a little brother
- 1:38:27that's not even in the NBA yet. He's like 16.
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: This is the future right here.
- 1:38:33Speaker 3: He's maybe 16 or 17, his younger brother. And he's
- 1:38:34still growing. He's, I don't know, 6'10 now.
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: Yeah. This is ridiculous. This is the future right here
- 1:38:39of sports.
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: Giant humans.
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: Super humans.
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: Right. So that, if you go back to the Bible.
- 1:38:44It's like New League football.
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: There are giants.
- 1:38:46Speaker 1: They're around.
- 1:38:47Speaker 3: They've been around.
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: Well, look at the guys in Iceland. Like the mountain.
- 1:38:50My favorite.
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: My favorite people.
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:38:53Speaker 2: Jean-Paul Sigmundson. One of my favorite strongmen of all time.
- 1:38:57All the Icelandic heroes.
- 1:38:58Speaker 3: I know, right?
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: All Vikings.
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: Bro, my favorite.
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: Giant humans.
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: Hafthor Bjornsson. He's the guy from Game of Thrones.
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's the mountain.
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the mountain. But, bro, World's Strongman taught me
- 1:39:12about the world. It taught me about how to pronounce names.
- 1:39:15Magnus von Magnusson. Magnus Ver Magnusson. That's who it is.
- 1:39:22There's all Icelandic legends. Yeah. Jean-Paul Stigmas in Magnusver, Jani
- 1:39:27Virtanen in Ukahola from Finland. Like, bro, I have so many.
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: Genetics in that part of the world.
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: Unreal.
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: Vikings.
- 1:39:34Speaker 2: Like, Viking genetics.
- 1:39:36Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like, you want to know what a
- 1:39:38Viking looked like? That's what they looked like. Those guys
- 1:39:40showed up with a fucking gigantic boat filled with animals,
- 1:39:45swinging swords, just ready to kill everybody in your village.
- 1:39:48Speaker 2: Swinging that fucking mace, swinging the hammer. May I have that, please? Yeah.
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: Yeah man I'm re-watching Game of Thrones I'm on the
- 1:39:57final season now I've.
- 1:39:59Speaker 2: Never seen it god damn it's good I need to
- 1:40:01I've been watching Mobland good that's great fucking Tom Hardy
- 1:40:06kills it I love Tom Hardy that's my man yeah
- 1:40:08but fucking Pierce Brosnan kills it holy shit.
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: Kills it and what is the woman's name again Helen
- 1:40:15Mirren oh.
- 1:40:16Speaker 2: My what am I she's so good Maeve she's so
- 1:40:19good what a fucking legendary cast I really like that
- 1:40:22show a lot Yeah, that's amazing.
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: That's Guy Ritchie.
- 1:40:24Speaker 2: I'd like to be on it, yeah.
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie's the fucking man.
- 1:40:26Speaker 2: I can find the part for me. I can't do
- 1:40:28an accent.
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: You can learn. You can learn an accent, bro.
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: Let's try it out right now. Irish.
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: Try it out.
- 1:40:34Speaker 2: Which one?
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: Irish? Liverpool.
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: Oh, fuck. That fuck's sick.
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: There you go. You're in.
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: I've been there. I'm a schouser.
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: You can do it, bro.
- 1:40:40Speaker 2: You have to schouser.
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: You would live with Patti Pimblitt for like a week.
- 1:40:45Speaker 2: Meatball Molly.
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:40:45Speaker 2: I want to live with Molly.
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: Live with Patti and Meatball Molly. They'll teach you how
- 1:40:49to talk schouser.
- 1:40:50Speaker 2: And I want to box.
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: There you go, dawg. Come on.
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: I just want to throw hands. I just love fucking, like,
- 1:40:56I just want to, I love boxing.
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: Do you? For real?
- 1:40:59Speaker 2: I love it. But remember how you were trying to
- 1:41:01show me how to throw a kick? I just stopped kicking.
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: Yeah, you gave up?
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: I'm not a kicker.
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: You don't have to be.
- 1:41:07Speaker 2: I'm not a kicker. I'm a choker. I'd like to
- 1:41:10be a choker.
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: You could learn how to kick.
- 1:41:12Speaker 2: I could.
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: You could learn.
- 1:41:13Speaker 2: You just got to learn how to stretch first. It's
- 1:41:15that leg thing, man. I'm scared to break my leg again. Yeah.
- 1:41:19Because every time I kick in the wrong place, it
- 1:41:21feels like you hit the ball on the wrong part
- 1:41:24of the bat.
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: When you broke your leg, did you have to get pins?
- 1:41:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it broke in half. It broke in half, so
- 1:41:31I got the plate. Oh. But it was a clean break.
- 1:41:34It was good. It's better than getting shattered. Shattered I
- 1:41:36would have been.
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: Shattered is bad. Shattered is bad. So a clean break.
- 1:41:40Speaker 2: It kind of made a bionic return.
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: So it doesn't bother you now?
- 1:41:43Speaker 2: No, nothing.
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: Oh.
- 1:41:45Speaker 2: No, it's strong, but if I kick it in the
- 1:41:47exact spot, I'll feel it.
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: Right. Like if someone checks a kick on their knee
- 1:41:50or something like that. What part of your knee or
- 1:41:53your leg broke?
- 1:41:55Speaker 2: I'm going to not disclose that like Bill Belichick.
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: Look at you. You're hiding injuries.
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: How did you break it?
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: I fell.
- 1:42:04Speaker 2: Literally slipped in the kitchen. I was making fucking two
- 1:42:07hamburgers and I was carrying them out and the homie
- 1:42:10was mopping at the same time. I was wearing the
- 1:42:12wrong shoe and I just slipped and it got caught
- 1:42:14behind me. Freak accident.
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: You know how that happened? What's his face? Piers Morgan.
- 1:42:21He fell and broke his hip. Had to get his
- 1:42:23hip replaced.
- 1:42:24Speaker 2: That's the thing. He doesn't seem like he's in great shape.
- 1:42:26I was in fucking sick shape at the time. I
- 1:42:29was riding my bike every day. I was feeling good.
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: How long ago did this happen?
- 1:42:33Speaker 2: 2011. Damn. Oh, no, 2010.
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: So that's why you're worried about kicking? So don't kick anybody.
- 1:42:41Just work on the move.
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: Like inside knee.
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: There you go. That's a good move for you.
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: Clinch, knee.
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: It's all just about hip mobility. Just learn some hip
- 1:42:50mobility stuff. I've been working on it. You know, like
- 1:42:53ballerina bars?
- 1:42:53Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: Those are actually really good.
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one. I could do a good, I
- 1:42:56could get the leg up there.
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: Ballerina bar is really good for swinging your leg. You, like,
- 1:43:00you stand on your left leg and swing your right
- 1:43:03leg like this.
- 1:43:04Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: And then up like that and this and up like that.
- 1:43:06That's really good for, like, opening it up and getting
- 1:43:10the dexterity and strengthening up those supporting muscles.
- 1:43:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: Or the flexors. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: Everybody should have some leg and hip mobility. You should
- 1:43:20be able to throw a kick. It's not that hard,
- 1:43:22especially a low kick.
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: No, I could throw it, but, you know, the accuracy and,
- 1:43:28you know, the devastation factor might not be there.
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: You'll figure it out. You're a big guy.
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: You're strong.
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: You got a lot of horsepower back there.
- 1:43:34Speaker 2: Come here.
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: Come on, son.
- 1:43:35Speaker 2: Come here. They'll fucking wrestle you.
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. You're getting excited.
- 1:43:41Speaker 2: I train with Pelino a lot. Really? Yeah, I train
- 1:43:44with him in Jersey. He just holds pads.
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: I thought he was not in Connecticut. Oh, his place
- 1:43:49is in Jersey.
- 1:43:50Speaker 2: Glover's in Connecticut. But everyone's pretty close.
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: What part of Jersey is Plinio in?
- 1:43:54Speaker 2: In Nutley. Oh, nice. Right there. Like 50 minutes from me.
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: That's great. That's great.
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: Gives me good work.
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: He's a good dude, too.
- 1:44:03Speaker 2: I love him.
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: And great coach.
- 1:44:05Speaker 2: And they spend, yeah, someone say he spends time with
- 1:44:06me and like teaches me fighting. Not boxing. Show me
- 1:44:10how to fight.
- 1:44:11Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:44:12Speaker 2: Like things Alex would do.
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: It's probably a good thing for you, too, to have
- 1:44:16something that takes your mind off all the other shit
- 1:44:18you do.
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things. Yeah. The thing is
- 1:44:21that one thing takes my mind off the next. This
- 1:44:24takes my mind off of that thing. That takes my
- 1:44:26mind off of that. So it's like a constant therapy
- 1:44:29that I'm giving myself because I'm getting burnt out here. Oh,
- 1:44:33let's turn to this. Now that's stopping me from doing that.
- 1:44:35Now we'll get burnt out there. Go to the next thing. Right.
- 1:44:38I'm just a seasonal person. I like doing things when
- 1:44:41I feel them. I know what you mean.
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:44:45Speaker 2: You feel it.
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: You seem to join it.
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:44:47Speaker 1: I don't want to be forced. Maybe you'll start golfing soon.
- 1:44:50Speaker 2: That's fucking not for me.
- 1:44:51Speaker 3: Really?
- 1:44:51Speaker 2: I'm really good. Look at me.
- 1:44:54Speaker 3: I'm really good.
- 1:44:56Speaker 2: Pitch and putt, I'm a fucking pro.
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: You're a good mini golfer?
- 1:45:00Speaker 2: Pitch and putt. No, mini golf, I'm not that good.
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: What's the difference?
- 1:45:03Speaker 2: Pitch and putt is like everything except driving.
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like 100 yards.
- 1:45:07Speaker 2: It's like a city game. You have it at the park. Oh.
- 1:45:09But there's a good 70-yard.
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: What's the wedge?
- 1:45:14Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: It's just not long drives.
- 1:45:17Speaker 2: It's no drives.
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: Got it.
- 1:45:18Speaker 2: So I'm pretty good.
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: So every golf game starts off with a long– I'm
- 1:45:23totally ignorant.
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: Me too. Every game starts with a drive from the beginning.
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: Is that true?
- 1:45:27Speaker 3: Mostly.
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: 14– it.
- 1:45:30Speaker 4: Should be two par threes per side. It's not– every
- 1:45:32course isn't the same, but it's like average. Two par
- 1:45:34threes per side. Two par fives per side and the
- 1:45:37rest are par fours.
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: And do you always open with like a long shot?
- 1:45:40Is that the thing? Isn't that like two and all?
- 1:45:43Speaker 3: How you play the course is supposed to be up
- 1:45:45to you. Ideally, you want to get as far.
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: How would they play in PGA?
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: One swing as possible so you have less strokes.
- 1:45:53Speaker 2: How does the master start?
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: That's how I'm starting. How they start in Augusta, Shinnecock.
- 1:46:01I want to play all these. I just want to smoke.
- 1:46:05Hash on the golf courses and chill while other people play.
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: That's what you want to do? That's doable.
- 1:46:12Speaker 2: I think we could do that. I think that's very attainable.
- 1:46:14I want to do it once. I don't want to
- 1:46:16follow them.
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: It sounds like.
- 1:46:17Speaker 3: We might have a show.
- 1:46:20Speaker 2: You already did that with H & A. How do
- 1:46:23we bring this back? Were you fucking producing it?
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: I was just talking about it yesterday.
- 1:46:27Speaker 2: Can you produce this for me? I don't mean to
- 1:46:30put you on the spot. I don't mean to put
- 1:46:32you on the spot. Can you be the executive producer?
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: Co? Well, where would we do it?
- 1:46:36Speaker 2: It really doesn't take much.
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: Where did you do it before? You did it at Vice?
- 1:46:40Speaker 2: We did it in a fucking rented studio with green screen.
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: That's where Vice went bad. Well, they should have kept
- 1:46:44you around. They fucked up.
- 1:46:47Speaker 2: They fucked everything up. They had you.
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: They had Eddie Wong. They had a bunch of dope shows.
- 1:46:52I did Eddie Wong's show. We went and did yoga together.
- 1:46:54Speaker 2: Seriously?
- 1:46:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:46:55Speaker 2: Yo, bro. I don't even want to tell you what
- 1:46:57I'm about to do.
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: I love Eddie.
- 1:46:57Speaker 2: He's a good kid. Fucking, I'm about to do Taibo
- 1:47:01with Billy Blanks. Now?
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: Today?
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: Like.
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: You're about to do it?
- 1:47:07Speaker 2: Thursday.
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: Really?
- 1:47:09Speaker 2: Me, Ryan Seacrest, and Billy Blanks.
- 1:47:11Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
- 1:47:12Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
- 1:47:14Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you here first. I went on
- 1:47:16Wheel of Fortune.
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: Did you?
- 1:47:19Speaker 2: I did.
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: How'd you do?
- 1:47:20Speaker 2: I can't tell you yet, but just let me tell you,
- 1:47:22I dominated. I can't tell anyone yet, but I dominated.
- 1:47:27I think he just told us. Let me just tell
- 1:47:28you something, bro. I'm sorry if this is going to
- 1:47:31ruin anything, but for fuck's sake, I dominated.
- 1:47:34Speaker 1: Nice. Beautiful.
- 1:47:36Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I'm looking for Jeopardy, to be honest.
- 1:47:38I'm better at Jeopardy.
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: And so why are you going and doing Taibo with
- 1:47:42Ryan Seacrest and Billy Blanks?
- 1:47:44Speaker 2: Because they took a liking to... Ryan took a liking
- 1:47:46to me, and now he wants to do something else.
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: Oh, so you guys filming this?
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to film me and Ryan doing Taibo
- 1:47:53with Billy Blanks. But for me, Billy Blanks... The last
- 1:47:56Boy Scout, the first scene. That's right. That's what I
- 1:47:59know him for.
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: That's my shit.
- 1:48:00Speaker 2: That's right. Ain't life a bitch? That's right.
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
- 1:48:05Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite movies of all time.
- 1:48:07Speaker 1: Well, Damon Wayans is one of my favorite comics of
- 1:48:09all time.
- 1:48:10Speaker 2: Damon Wayans is a fucking underrated comic.
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: Underrated comic and underrated action star. He was great in
- 1:48:15that fucking movie, too.
- 1:48:16Speaker 2: Bulletproof with Adam Sandler. I used to love Damon Wayans.
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: Major Pain.
- 1:48:20Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: He had a run.
- 1:48:22Speaker 2: What about his brother in fucking Lowdown Dirty Shame? That
- 1:48:25was a good action movie, too.
- 1:48:26Speaker 1: Kenan.
- 1:48:26Speaker 2: Who knew Kenan Ivory Wayans was a fucking action hero?
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: Kenan's a cool guy.
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: I'm going to get you, sucker.
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: That's right. Come on. That's right.
- 1:48:35Speaker 2: He died from over gold. He had too much gold.
- 1:48:41Speaker 1: Wasn't there a guy who had like goldfish tanks for
- 1:48:44his platform shoes?
- 1:48:45Speaker 2: Yes, of course, man. That was the pimp. Can you
- 1:48:47imagine a dude walking out of his shoe with fish
- 1:48:50tanks for platforms? In living color, it changed my life.
- 1:48:55That shit changed my life.
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: Hey, I just read something. I should probably call Dave
- 1:48:59and ask him. But I just read something where they're
- 1:49:01thinking about bringing back the Chappelle show.
- 1:49:02Speaker 3: He gave a speech.
- 1:49:04Speaker 4: So Eddie Murphy got another award this week, I think
- 1:49:06AFI or something. And Dave was on stage speaking. And
- 1:49:10he said he was talking with Eddie about it. And
- 1:49:13Eddie sort of like pushed him. But then during the speech,
- 1:49:17he sort of said, all right, if you want to
- 1:49:18do it. I think they actually even said maybe a movie,
- 1:49:20like a Chappelle show movie.
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: An actual show.
- 1:49:23Speaker 2: That would be fucking crazy.
- 1:49:24Speaker 3: He kind of said, Eddie, if you do Charlie's parts,
- 1:49:26let's do it.
- 1:49:27Speaker 2: Oh, that would be incredible.
- 1:49:29Speaker 3: Yeah, because he kind of doesn't want to do it
- 1:49:31without Charlie.
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: Oh, that would be incredible.
- 1:49:33Speaker 2: Oof.
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: That would be incredible. I ran into Eddie and Charlie
- 1:49:38on vacation once.
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: Where?
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: Just totally random, in Hawaii.
- 1:49:41Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at the counter getting my key for
- 1:49:48the room, and Charlie's cousin was there. I was like,
- 1:49:51what are you doing? What's going on, man? What are
- 1:49:52you doing here? He's like, Charlie's here with Eddie. Come
- 1:49:54say hi. I went over and I had lunch with
- 1:49:56Charlie and Eddie. I was like just sitting there talking
- 1:49:58to them. I'm like, this is crazy.
- 1:50:00Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: It was crazy.
- 1:50:01Speaker 2: Where were you staying? Moana Surf Club?
- 1:50:03Speaker 1: No, Four Seasons. Four Seasons in Maui. Oh, yeah.
- 1:50:06Speaker 2: That's a nice one.
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: Beautiful place. Beautiful place. It was like just talking to
- 1:50:09Eddie Murphy. I was like, what? Am I really talking
- 1:50:11to Eddie Murphy? It was so weird.
- 1:50:13Speaker 2: That's psychedelic right there. It was cool.
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: He's really cool.
- 1:50:17Speaker 2: He's really fun. I met Martin. Martin Lawrence, who was like.
- 1:50:23My grandparents learned English from this man. My Albanian grandparents
- 1:50:27would watch Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, and Martin. I did
- 1:50:35the thing with Wheel of Fortune, and then I went
- 1:50:37to the Knicks game versus the Lakers. I said, fuck it,
- 1:50:40I'm getting myself a ticket. And as I walk in,
- 1:50:43it's fucking Martin Lawrence right there. I've never done this
- 1:50:47to another man. I shook his hand. I went into
- 1:50:49his ear. I was like, yo, bro. You don't know
- 1:50:50how much this means to me, man. You don't know.
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: Yo, bro.
- 1:50:53Speaker 2: I was just talking to him. I was like whispering
- 1:50:55in his ear how much it meant to me.
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: He fanboyed out.
- 1:50:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I fanboyed the fuck. I don't care. I don't care.
- 1:51:01I did it.
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: Dude, I saw Martin Lawrence in his prime at the
- 1:51:04comedy store in the 90s.
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: I would have died to see that.
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: There's another guy that people sleep on.
- 1:51:11Speaker 2: He's my favorite.
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: He's one of the best comics ever. When he was
- 1:51:14in his prime, he would fucking destroy. And I would
- 1:51:17have to follow him. It was hell. I bombed so
- 1:51:20many times. Mitzi Shore, that lady right there, if you
- 1:51:24were coming up, one of the things that she would
- 1:51:25do is like Young Comics, if she thought of any
- 1:51:28promise at all, she'd put them on after Monsters.
- 1:51:31Speaker 2: Put you right on after a legend.
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: Yep, that's your spot. Right on after the killer.
- 1:51:35Speaker 2: Good luck.
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: Good luck, motherfucker.
- 1:51:40Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, man. Shows you what kind of
- 1:51:42shots you got.
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: She knew what she was doing. I mean, she's the
- 1:51:45most important figure in comedy outside of comedians, for sure.
- 1:51:49She's number one. She knew. She knew what she was doing.
- 1:51:52Even with her son. I mean, she'd even give Pauly
- 1:51:54a break. You know, Pauly had to earn it himself, too.
- 1:51:57Speaker 2: Damn.
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: That's how she, you know, she knew. She knew, like, how...
- 1:52:02What was the best environment to create comedy?
- 1:52:05Speaker 2: So Paulie Shaw was a stand-up first? Oh, yeah. I
- 1:52:08didn't even realize that.
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. Paulie's been a stand-up forever.
- 1:52:11Speaker 2: I just knew. When I was young, he was in
- 1:52:14movies and shit that I liked. He was like that actor.
- 1:52:18Where's it at? Right here.
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, he started in stand-up. I mean, he used
- 1:52:23to get babysat by Sam Kinison.
- 1:52:25Speaker 2: Oh, my God. You got to be a fucking funny
- 1:52:27guy after that one. Could that be my babysitter?
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: There's some things you don't want to learn when you're
- 1:52:33that young.
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: I mean.
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: You don't want to learn from Sam.
- 1:52:37Speaker 2: I kind of do. I kind of... I don't know.
- 1:52:41I had some pretty fucking... Some interesting characters raise me also.
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: I'm just so glad that the Comedy Store is still around.
- 1:52:47I was really worried about them during the pandemic when
- 1:52:50they were closed for like a fucking year. The whole
- 1:52:52thing was so insane. It took so long before L.A.
- 1:52:55allowed them to open up.
- 1:52:57Speaker 2: Can I ask you something honestly? No. All right. The
- 1:53:04comics of today, do you find them– just because we've
- 1:53:09aged a little bit and we find different things. Like
- 1:53:12do you find them as funny as you found people
- 1:53:14that you looked up to like your elders? Do you
- 1:53:17find these younger guys funny? Like can you vibe with it?
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely can vibe with it.
- 1:53:21Speaker 2: You know, as far as like– Do they make you
- 1:53:24cackle the way these other fucking guys do?
- 1:53:26Speaker 4: Oh, for sure.
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: For sure. It depends on who you're watching.
- 1:53:28Speaker 2: You know who I like? I like Stavi. Oh, yeah.
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: Stavi's hilarious.
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: Stavro's fucking.
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: Stavro's is hilarious. There's more funny comics now, I think,
- 1:53:37than ever.
- 1:53:37Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's a really good time
- 1:53:40for up-and-coming people, new people. There's a lot of excitement
- 1:53:44about comedy. And then there's Kill Tony, which is this
- 1:53:48awesome platform for them. So there's so many people that.
- 1:53:50Speaker 2: Are getting into that. Were you doing that last night?
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: No, I wasn't there last night.
- 1:53:53Speaker 2: Because I drove by the mothership and it was fucking cranking.
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Kill Tony night. I wasn't there last night,
- 1:54:00but Ari Shaffir was there.
- 1:54:02Speaker 4: Luis J.
- 1:54:02Speaker 1: Gomez was there. So it was a great, great setup.
- 1:54:07And it's always a good show. It's always a fun show.
- 1:54:09And that gives people legit opportunity to get on stage
- 1:54:13and either to get on YouTube or to get on
- 1:54:15Netflix in front of the whole fucking world. And it
- 1:54:18could make your career. It could make your life. It
- 1:54:20could change everything.
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: It's not like a voice type of vibe. It's more
- 1:54:24of like a fucking real show and just people see
- 1:54:27you there. It's not like a competition.
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's no competition. But you do get
- 1:54:32one minute. And if you do well, Tony invites you back. Yeah,
- 1:54:36not judged, but you get feedback from the comics or
- 1:54:39everybody's just fucking around. It's all very loose and open.
- 1:54:42Speaker 2: Showtime at the Apollo, you get yanked?
- 1:54:45Speaker 1: No, you don't get yanked. You get your one minute.
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: And if you suck, Tony roasts you. But sometimes the
- 1:54:51people that suck, they know they sucked and they're really
- 1:54:53funny talking about how they sucked. It's just a great show.
- 1:54:56But it's just an opportunity where comedians see there's a path.
- 1:55:01All I have to do is keep doing open mics,
- 1:55:03put together an act, start getting a little road work,
- 1:55:06do Kill Tony, and then next thing you know, I'm
- 1:55:09headlining a show. On the road, like all these other
- 1:55:11guys that have become regulars on the show.
- 1:55:12Speaker 2: There's a clear path.
- 1:55:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: Like you could really make a living and have a
- 1:55:15real career in comedy. So because of that, it's like
- 1:55:19comedy is really exciting right now. It's like and because
- 1:55:21of YouTube, because you could put your special just you
- 1:55:24don't need.
- 1:55:24Speaker 2: You don't need big guys. You put anything.
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: Just upload it onto YouTube. Next thing you know, it's
- 1:55:29got a million views. Holy shit. You're off and running.
- 1:55:33And then people could. The best thing about YouTube is
- 1:55:35people could share it. You could see a funny comedy special. Oh, shit.
- 1:55:37You got to watch this. You send it to me.
- 1:55:39I'm like, ah. And then I'll send it to him.
- 1:55:41And that's how things happen. It's like that never existed before.
- 1:55:45So that paves the way for more comics to be
- 1:55:48encouraged to try it because there's an– if you've got
- 1:55:50a work ethic and you're willing to do it, there's
- 1:55:53an actual path to having a career.
- 1:55:55Speaker 2: Yeah, because before it was like a little bit like luck.
- 1:55:58You had to meet the right person. Now there's like
- 1:56:01getting to the major leagues. You go through the minors.
- 1:56:03You go through here. It's clear.
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: What's the pathway for rappers?
- 1:56:08Speaker 2: I don't know. There's really none. Nowadays, I believe it's
- 1:56:12all the same thing. You choose your own path.
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: You just become mayor.
- 1:56:16Speaker 2: You fucking kidding me? I'd love to do that. If
- 1:56:20I could be the mayor.
- 1:56:21Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be the mayor.
- 1:56:22Speaker 2: Someone got to feed me some political situations that are good.
- 1:56:27Good things only. I don't want to do anything bad. No,
- 1:56:30but the path to being a rapper, there's really... First off,
- 1:56:34you have to be just nice. You have to be good.
- 1:56:36You shouldn't be doing it if you suck.
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:56:38Speaker 2: And your friends should tell you, yo, listen, this is
- 1:56:40not for you. Let's step away from this and do
- 1:56:42something else. Right. You have to have good people around you.
- 1:56:46I had a lot of people around me that are
- 1:56:47fucking straight up haters, very raw deal people, and no
- 1:56:51one told me to stop.
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: Of course.
- 1:56:53Speaker 2: And that inspired me to keep going. And honestly, you
- 1:56:56just have to have it within you. You either have
- 1:56:58it or you don't. I've been around here now 16 years,
- 1:57:05and I've seen a lot of fucking people come and go.
- 1:57:07But I've been a constant and I don't even think
- 1:57:11I've peaked in any area of life yet. Truly. I
- 1:57:17feel like I'm on the brink of, I'm always on
- 1:57:20the brink of a new exploration, a new breakthrough. And
- 1:57:24that's how I take things because I don't like, I
- 1:57:26don't want to be stagnant. I look older. I'm visibly grizzled.
- 1:57:32I'm visibly Sean Connery. But because I started later, you
- 1:57:36didn't see me as a fucking 15-year-old kid jumping around. Right.
- 1:57:40I came in as a 27-year-old man. Right. So you've
- 1:57:44seen me throughout the years. I've just now I'm more
- 1:57:46of a man. Right. So I didn't start as a
- 1:57:48little baby face, you know? A lot of these kids,
- 1:57:51you see them 16 years later, they look the exact
- 1:57:53same because you saw them at 13. Not me. Right.
- 1:57:59I feel you.
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: You know? Yeah. Well, that's a great attitude anyway.
- 1:58:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: If you're just continuing to improve at something, that's a
- 1:58:05great way to live life.
- 1:58:06Speaker 2: I just like learning, man. I love new experiences. I'm the...
- 1:58:11just finding new things that I love every single day
- 1:58:13of life.
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: That's awesome.
- 1:58:15Speaker 2: Truthfully, man. I feel blessed and special to have those
- 1:58:20type of outlets where I don't have to search for shit.
- 1:58:26Hobbies fall in my lap. They do because I really
- 1:58:30am a connoisseur of many things in life that I love.
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: What other hobbies do you like?
- 1:58:34Speaker 2: Like I said, I love gardening. I love overlanding now.
- 1:58:37You go overlanding? I want to take my truck everywhere now.
- 1:58:40What kind of truck you got? I got a Sequoia. Ooh.
- 1:58:43Brand new, 26.
- 1:58:44Speaker 1: Good move.
- 1:58:45Speaker 2: It was the best purchase I've ever made in my life.
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: They never break.
- 1:58:48Speaker 2: They never break. And New York was so fucking heavy duty.
- 1:58:51I was like in war mode. There was nothing stopping me.
- 1:58:55Speaker 1: Right, four-wheel drive.
- 1:58:56Speaker 2: 800-wheel drive, that car got. It got power like you
- 1:59:00can't believe. It's perfect.
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: Toyotas are hard to go wrong.
- 1:59:03Speaker 2: I love Toyota.
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: Hard to go wrong with a Toyota.
- 1:59:05Speaker 2: I love Toyota. I had Jeeps for a while, but
- 1:59:07I started. My mother had the 83 Toyota Celica. That
- 1:59:11was our first car. We called it Brownie. It got
- 1:59:13us everywhere. Then we made the change to the 94
- 1:59:16Jeep Grand Cherokee Forest Green. We had that for a
- 1:59:20long time until we got the Hyundai Sonata that I
- 1:59:23got stolen by accident. You know, it was the morning before.
- 1:59:27That was the night before the Brett Favre jet experiment
- 1:59:32that was going to happen. You know, he went to
- 1:59:34the jets. I went to the store in my underwear
- 1:59:37that I always do up the block from my house.
- 1:59:40Bought a vanilla Dutch and a set for life. And
- 1:59:43two fucking kids jumped in the car and just dipped.
- 1:59:45Speaker 1: Oh, no. And you were in your underwear?
- 1:59:48Speaker 2: I was in my underwear. I had to make the
- 1:59:50police report in underwear. Why are you in underwear? Oh,
- 1:59:52my God. First off, that was the first question. Why
- 1:59:55are you in underwear? That's a good question.
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: That's a solid question.
- 1:59:57Speaker 2: I said, should I take them off? You want me
- 1:59:59to take them off? What, are you crazy?
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: It does make the situation weirder.
- 2:00:03Speaker 2: It makes it all weirder. Why I left with underwear
- 2:00:06on only.
- 2:00:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:00:07Speaker 2: It was hot out.
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: I wouldn't advise that.
- 2:00:09Speaker 2: No, no. Don't do that. Even if you're going to
- 2:00:11your local store.
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: Did you do things to the Sequoia? Did you put
- 2:00:16a lift on it? What'd you do?
- 2:00:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I put the lift on it. Did you change
- 2:00:19the tires? Yeah, some 35s, some Toyos. Oh, shit, look
- 2:00:22at you. I went nuts. I got the crazy rack.
- 2:00:25Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a roof rack, the whole deal?
- 2:00:27Speaker 2: I even got a roof rack.
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: Nice.
- 2:00:31Speaker 2: No, but I really, you know, I'm trying to throw
- 2:00:32the Dobbinsons kit on there, so it's really lifted. And
- 2:00:35I want to go, I want to do like a
- 2:00:37Dakar rally vibe.
- 2:00:39Speaker 1: Okay, so do you want to take this and just
- 2:00:41go out into the woods and camp out for a while?
- 2:00:43Speaker 2: I want to do that, too. But I want to
- 2:00:45drive to the unknown.
- 2:00:46Speaker 1: Just drive over weird shit.
- 2:00:47Speaker 2: Through the unknown. Yeah. There's a trip that these guys...
- 2:00:51It's probably not. It's not the move. It's too big.
- 2:00:54It's too burly. I need it.
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: Old Land Cruisers are the move. I need it. Like
- 2:00:5780s series Land Cruisers.
- 2:00:58Speaker 2: I need something that's a little bit more mobile. You're right.
- 2:01:02I've been looking to go maybe Mitsubishi Pajero right-hand drive or.
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: You know what's real good is the Lexus GX.
- 2:01:12Speaker 2: Oh, that's the one. Yeah.
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: A little smaller.
- 2:01:15Speaker 2: Comfort.
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: But also, a lot of dudes take those and put
- 2:01:18lifts on them, and there's a lot of aftermarket stuff
- 2:01:21available for them.
- 2:01:22Speaker 2: Because they're so luxury.
- 2:01:23Speaker 1: And they're so fucking reliable.
- 2:01:24Speaker 2: That's that Toyota motor.
- 2:01:26Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't go wrong with Toyotas.
- 2:01:27Speaker 2: Bro, I'm trying to go Toyota. Holler at me. Come on.
- 2:01:30I'm the perfect shit.
- 2:01:31Speaker 1: Holler at him, Toyota.
- 2:01:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: I have a 95 Land Cruiser.
- 2:01:36Speaker 3: Oof.
- 2:01:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I love those things.
- 2:01:38Speaker 2: Champagne? What color?
- 2:01:39Speaker 1: No, it's silver.
- 2:01:40Speaker 2: Silver.
- 2:01:41Speaker 1: It's Lexus Atomic Silver. I had it painted.
- 2:01:43Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Yeah.
- 2:01:45Speaker 1: It's dope.
- 2:01:46Speaker 2: She gets me crazy.
- 2:01:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:01:47Speaker 2: And that fucking thing you got, the Raptor, the Hennessy. Oh, yeah.
- 2:01:50I got that, too. It's more than the Hennessy. What
- 2:01:52is it? The fucking VSOP.
- 2:01:54Speaker 1: No, it's the Hennessy. It's the Hennessy 1000. So they
- 2:01:56take a Raptor R and turn it into a 1000
- 2:01:59horsepower pickup truck. It's ridiculous. Totally necessary.
- 2:02:03Speaker 2: It's 100%. Do you overland here?
- 2:02:06Speaker 3: No.
- 2:02:06Speaker 2: No. Just fucking drive the streets.
- 2:02:08Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I've taken it out to ranches before, though.
- 2:02:10I've taken it hunting.
- 2:02:12Speaker 2: You need that vehicle for the ranch.
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: It helps. It definitely helps when you're getting over stuff.
- 2:02:16Those things, they have so much wheel travel. Those Raptors,
- 2:02:19they're so good, especially the Hennessey because it's even more lifted.
- 2:02:22It's so good at articulating over spaces.
- 2:02:24Speaker 2: She's saying independent. The independent arms?
- 2:02:27Speaker 1: Well, it's just the suspension is designed to be pliable, right?
- 2:02:30So like when you're going over fucked up ground, it
- 2:02:32like moves with it. One tire will be up here.
- 2:02:35Speaker 2: The other one will be there.
- 2:02:36Speaker 1: The old Land Cruisers is that they all had solid
- 2:02:39axles front and rear. That's like a real hardcore off-roading vehicle.
- 2:02:44The solid axles are just so durable. And because it
- 2:02:49turns like the– you've seen like guys– Going overlanding with
- 2:02:53land cruisers. Where they have like the crazy.
- 2:02:56Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Yeah. The rocks. Yeah. Going over like.
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: Dudes get obsessed with those weird trails. Like just getting
- 2:03:03up them.
- 2:03:03Speaker 2: I'm starting to be. I'm just. It's the burn. The
- 2:03:08burn is there. I'm just little by little. Soon you'll
- 2:03:11see me in fucking Moab going crazy through the rocks.
- 2:03:14For real.
- 2:03:15Speaker 1: She got a Jeep. Jeeps are really good for that.
- 2:03:18Because they're real small. They're not very big. You know.
- 2:03:21two-door Jeep or a four-door Jeep. They're real small, easy
- 2:03:24to move, a lot of fucking stuff that you can
- 2:03:26get put on them. A lot of aftermarket stuff for Jeeps.
- 2:03:29Speaker 2: How much fun is that to put shit on things?
- 2:03:31Speaker 1: Oh, so fun.
- 2:03:31Speaker 2: Like to fucking soup things up.
- 2:03:33Speaker 1: So exciting.
- 2:03:35Speaker 2: I'm working on an 87 M6 right now that I've
- 2:03:38had just sitting there in my garage for 12 years. Really?
- 2:03:42About to give it a new life.
- 2:03:43Speaker 1: What are you going to do to it?
- 2:03:44Speaker 2: Baja.
- 2:03:45Speaker 3: Really?
- 2:03:45Speaker 2: Making it a rally car, lifting it.
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: Holy shit. Big wheels.
- 2:03:50Speaker 2: Really?
- 2:03:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:03:51Speaker 2: I'm done dropping things. I'm only lifting things now.
- 2:03:54Speaker 3: Wow.
- 2:03:55Speaker 2: I've dropped every fucking BMW I've ever had to the ground.
- 2:03:57Speaker 1: You know what it is?
- 2:03:58Speaker 2: We're just scraping.
- 2:03:59Speaker 1: You're subconsciously preparing for the end of civilization.
- 2:04:01Speaker 2: I think so.
- 2:04:02Speaker 1: We're going to have to go off the roads.
- 2:04:03Speaker 2: I got the Japanese G.I. Joe truck. I'm prepping everything.
- 2:04:08Speaker 1: Yeah. You have an apocalypse vehicle.
- 2:04:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:04:11Speaker 1: I recommend those. You should get one. When things go sideways,
- 2:04:14you got to have something that can go away from
- 2:04:16the road.
- 2:04:16Speaker 2: 100%. Because if you're stuck in.
- 2:04:18Speaker 1: A Ferrari and... You're on the highway. You're stuck.
- 2:04:21Speaker 2: You're stuck. I can't even get in the fucking thing
- 2:04:23right now. That's what I'm saying. I could, but it
- 2:04:24wouldn't be as good. It sucks. It's not as fun.
- 2:04:26It's those seats that hug your ass.
- 2:04:28Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 2:04:29Speaker 2: I don't want anyone hugging my ass.
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: A little tiny guy with a cigarette, maybe.
- 2:04:32Speaker 2: Exactly. Fucking with his legs crossed in the car.
- 2:04:34Speaker 1: Like this.
- 2:04:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:04:36Speaker 1: Like the real deep bend.
- 2:04:37Speaker 2: Bro, who could cross their legs with the deep bend?
- 2:04:40My nuts don't allow that. Mm. It's a European thing. R.
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: Shafir does it. He sits like that, but he's tall.
- 2:04:46Speaker 2: Ask him about his nuts.
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:04:47Speaker 2: What do they do when that happens?
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: Tucks them in there somewhere. They go in the space.
- 2:04:53The gap. The gap between the two legs. You know?
- 2:04:57Speaker 2: That's a crazy way to sit for your own subconscious
- 2:05:00to know that's how you're sitting. Yeah. That your shit's tucked.
- 2:05:02Speaker 1: You're crushing nuts. Yeah, nah. I can't do it. Well,
- 2:05:05you and I both have tree trunk legs.
- 2:05:06Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's true. There's no way.
- 2:05:08Speaker 1: It won't work like that. It doesn't go over there
- 2:05:11like that.
- 2:05:11Speaker 2: I could barely do a little cross at the ankle.
- 2:05:13Speaker 1: Adam Carolla talks about this. He's like it's a thing
- 2:05:16that like liberals do to let you know that they
- 2:05:18think the way you think.
- 2:05:20Speaker 2: To sit like that is unreal.
- 2:05:22Speaker 1: It's like they've got this like cross. Like, well, it's
- 2:05:24like a feminine expression. I'm not threatening. I'm basically progressive,
- 2:05:29you know. I'm, you know, I've got the legs in
- 2:05:33the proper position.
- 2:05:33Speaker 2: It's letting you know.
- 2:05:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:05:35Speaker 2: It's all body language.
- 2:05:36Speaker 1: Whereas Trump sits like this with his hands over his balls.
- 2:05:39Speaker 2: Fucking.
- 2:05:39Speaker 1: He holds his hands. Everything's open. Yeah. He's got like
- 2:05:44the whole right over his cock.
- 2:05:52Speaker 2: So ridiculous. Oh, man.
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: Well, women always get mad on subways because men spread.
- 2:05:58But the reason why is that's how our hips are designed.
- 2:06:00What is this? The microphone's right on his cock? That's ridiculous. Oh, man.
- 2:06:06That is ridiculous.
- 2:06:07Speaker 2: It's a funny picture.
- 2:06:08Speaker 1: So how did Ancient Aliens, that show that you did,
- 2:06:11you getting high watching Ancient Aliens, how'd that even start?
- 2:06:15Speaker 2: Vice was about to fucking take over the History Channel.
- 2:06:18Speaker 1: And they just needed content?
- 2:06:20Speaker 2: No.
- 2:06:20Speaker 3: No.
- 2:06:21Speaker 2: I was like, yo, you guys are fucking bugging. You're
- 2:06:23not taking this off. This has to stay. Like, yo,
- 2:06:27ancient LA, this comes with Vice. Like, this is now
- 2:06:30going to be transferred. And they were like, I don't
- 2:06:32know if we could do it. So I had to
- 2:06:34go and speak to the homie who invented it. He
- 2:06:37gave me his blessings. I sat with him for like
- 2:06:40four hours. He was talking shit to me, whatever. Convinced him.
- 2:06:47I was like, yo, this is not a joke. Like,
- 2:06:50everything is tongue-in-cheek and ridiculous, but this is how it
- 2:06:53makes us feel. I'm a proponent. I'm a believer. If
- 2:06:57I need to talk to Giorgio Tsoukalos, bring him here. Whatever.
- 2:07:02So he believed me, and he gave us the blessing.
- 2:07:05He didn't recently pass, but he passed a couple years ago.
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: Well, who did? Giorgio?
- 2:07:09Speaker 2: No, not Giorgio, but the— The main creator. His name
- 2:07:14is fucking sick.
- 2:07:14Speaker 1: Giorgio's the meme.
- 2:07:16Speaker 2: He's the meme, yeah. He's the hair.
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's aliens.
- 2:07:18Speaker 2: He's the hair.
- 2:07:19Speaker 1: But it's aliens.
- 2:07:20Speaker 2: But there's a lot of other sicko dudes on there
- 2:07:22that I like. Oh, yeah.
- 2:07:23Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of people.
- 2:07:24Speaker 2: Von Eric, the guy who just died also.
- 2:07:26Speaker 1: Von Daniken?
- 2:07:27Speaker 2: Von Daniken, yeah.
- 2:07:28Speaker 1: Eric Von Daniken. Yeah, Eric Von Daniken. Yeah. I met him. Really? Yeah,
- 2:07:32my friend Eric Weinstein brought me to a lunch where
- 2:07:35he was at, and I had a chance to talk
- 2:07:37to him about what he believes and all this stuff.
- 2:07:41He was all in on the idea that aliens definitely
- 2:07:44came down here and built everything. I'm more of a
- 2:07:47believer that there was an ending of civilization and a
- 2:07:52rebirth of it and that what we're looking at is
- 2:07:55some incredible technology that humans had invented a long fucking
- 2:07:58time ago. And that's, what's responsible for all these structures
- 2:08:02that we don't understand. Like the ones in Mexico are crazy, man.
- 2:08:05Speaker 2: They didn't know.
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: They just uncovered those. I didn't know that until like
- 2:08:09not that long ago.
- 2:08:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:08:11Speaker 1: These were, I thought the Aztecs built all that shit.
- 2:08:14Speaker 2: Think about all these things that they're finding now. I've
- 2:08:17seen recently all these pyramids they're finding in Antarctica.
- 2:08:20Speaker 1: Well, I know that there's one mountain that is odd looking.
- 2:08:27Speaker 2: Yeah, the odd looking nature of it. There's like domes and.
- 2:08:34Speaker 1: Like points underneath. It looks weird. That one looks weird.
- 2:08:38There's a bunch of them in the Amazon that look
- 2:08:40really weird.
- 2:08:41Speaker 2: Like when they do the LIDAR underneath the riverbed, there's
- 2:08:44like civilization under there. There's like true civilization in certain
- 2:08:49areas of the Amazon.
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a friend of mine, Luke Caverns, who
- 2:08:52goes and explores these things all the time. We were
- 2:08:55actually just talking about one of them that I think
- 2:08:57is in Peru. I sent it to him and I
- 2:09:00asked him, I said, hey, is this legit? And he's like, yeah, absolutely.
- 2:09:03Not only is it legit, but you can't get there.
- 2:09:05Like it's a really hard place to visit. It's almost
- 2:09:08impossible to get there and no one has really looked
- 2:09:10into it in terms of like– here it is. I
- 2:09:14found it.
- 2:09:14Speaker 2: So what did they do? An overhead?
- 2:09:16Speaker 1: Well, they have images of it and you look at
- 2:09:17the image and you're like, whoa, what is going on here?
- 2:09:20Like this is weird. Like the image here.
- 2:09:23Speaker 2: Like full civilization along the bank.
- 2:09:25Speaker 1: Well, it's in the middle. In the water. I think
- 2:09:27it's deep in the jungle and I think it's very
- 2:09:29difficult to get to. But the thing is a lot
- 2:09:32of the jungle, a lot of the Amazon, a lot
- 2:09:34of this stuff is– There's areas where people don't necessarily
- 2:09:39know How many people were living there 1,000 years ago
- 2:09:42or 2,000 years ago? It could have been like densely packed.
- 2:09:44Like look at that.
- 2:09:45Speaker 2: That looks like a densely packed area with people.
- 2:09:47Speaker 1: What the fuck is that? Like that does not look–
- 2:09:50that's the AI version. But go back to that. That's
- 2:09:53a real picture. Bro, that does not look natural at all.
- 2:09:56It doesn't match anything around it.
- 2:09:58Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 2:09:59Speaker 1: It looks like something that someone built. It doesn't mean
- 2:10:02that it's something that someone built and it might just
- 2:10:04be that angle. If you look at it from the
- 2:10:07other side, it might look like bullshit. But from that
- 2:10:09angle right there.
- 2:10:10Speaker 2: There's angles of, there's isosceles right there. There's triangular situations
- 2:10:22going on.
- 2:10:25Speaker 1: They're saying, but it said in that image.
- 2:10:27Speaker 2: But it don't look like it's four sides. It looked
- 2:10:29like five sides. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
- 2:10:31Speaker 1: It's hard to say. No, it could be four. It
- 2:10:33just could be four.
- 2:10:35Speaker 2: Because where it is, if you just reverse it, you
- 2:10:37just reverse what you're saying. You're right.
- 2:10:38Speaker 1: So it says geologists refer to this formation as Cerro Elcano,
- 2:10:42attributing its sharp angles and pyramid-like structure to the slow,
- 2:10:46patient work of wind, rain, and erosion over countless centuries.
- 2:10:50Or someone built it. Like if you're not exploring it
- 2:10:53and you're saying that this thing that looks just like
- 2:10:55a pyramid, you think it was made by pyramid, by
- 2:10:59slow patient work of wind and rain.
- 2:11:01Speaker 2: But there's no other rock around it. Why didn't the
- 2:11:04patients happen there? This is a straight up plane.
- 2:11:07Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
- 2:11:08Speaker 2: This is a jungle plane.
- 2:11:09Speaker 1: That looks like a person built it. Those are right angles.
- 2:11:12And it's covered with bushes. So you got to think
- 2:11:15like what did it look like when it– and they
- 2:11:17haven't gone and checked it out. I'll tell you what
- 2:11:19Luke said to me because Luke is actually an expert
- 2:11:21in this stuff. This is what he does. He goes
- 2:11:23and visits these places. And he was telling me it's
- 2:11:27like this stuff is so strange because there's a bunch
- 2:11:31of these kind of structures that are in the jungle.
- 2:11:34All of them haven't been explored, and there's a lot
- 2:11:36of resistance. He says it's deep and uncontacted tribe land.
- 2:11:40There's a small river that can get you within a
- 2:11:4325-mile mark. He said it's crazy out there. So it's
- 2:11:47just like you just have a really difficult time in
- 2:11:49getting to it. I mean, there's a river that can
- 2:11:53get you within 25 miles of it.
- 2:11:54Speaker 2: Okay. And then what? And then you've got to.
- 2:11:56Speaker 1: Walk through the jungle, 25 miles to get there. What
- 2:11:59does it look like on Google Earth? I don't know, nowhere.
- 2:12:02What does it look like, though?
- 2:12:03Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm just showing like the vastness.
- 2:12:05Speaker 1: I know, but get that stupid little dot off of it.
- 2:12:07Speaker 2: It's right at the border of Peru and Brazil.
- 2:12:12Speaker 1: Bro, what's under there? I want to know what's under there. Boy,
- 2:12:19that does look like a fucking pyramid, man. That looks
- 2:12:21like a pyramid that's covered with bushes.
- 2:12:23Speaker 2: Yeah, out in the middle of nowhere.
- 2:12:25Speaker 1: They find all kinds of- Those are other ones?
- 2:12:28Speaker 3: Hey, look at that. It's in a similar line.
- 2:12:31Speaker 2: It looks like it's in a pattern of a star
- 2:12:34in the sky.
- 2:12:35Speaker 1: Right, like the Great Pyramids are.
- 2:12:35Speaker 2: The tree, the tree, boom, boom, boom, and then that.
- 2:12:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. Oh, here's another one. Did you see
- 2:12:41that they think that there's a second Sphinx in Egypt?
- 2:12:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:12:46Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've done scans of this area where a
- 2:12:48second Sphinx would be and there's something under the sand
- 2:12:51that's the size of a Sphinx.
- 2:12:53Speaker 2: Would it be next to the original one?
- 2:12:55Speaker 1: It's in the same area, like the same area. So
- 2:12:57you have your pyramids and then there's a Sphinx and
- 2:13:00on the opposite side there's another Sphinx.
- 2:13:02Speaker 2: But the Sphinx isn't the Sphinx. It was something else.
- 2:13:04The face was something else, right?
- 2:13:06Speaker 1: They think. They think the face was a lion's face
- 2:13:09and then a pharaoh.
- 2:13:10Speaker 2: Well, like that dog, that like long dog, the long
- 2:13:13snouted dog that they have.
- 2:13:15Speaker 1: Could be. I don't think they think it's that though.
- 2:13:17I think they think it's a lion. And so there's
- 2:13:22one exactly opposite of it.
- 2:13:24Speaker 2: I mean.
- 2:13:26Speaker 1: And so this one, what does it look like when
- 2:13:28they show that image, the scan?
- 2:13:31Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything there.
- 2:13:32Speaker 1: What did the scan say?
- 2:13:34Speaker 3: I don't.
- 2:13:34Speaker 1: Would you scroll up? See, that's a scan. And it
- 2:13:37said something above it. It said, scans hinting at complex
- 2:13:41megastructure beneath the Giza Plateau. And so satellite images of
- 2:13:48the Giza Plateau reportedly captured this dune, which the signal
- 2:13:53processing researcher claims measures approximately 108 feet tall. The first
- 2:13:58sphinx sits slightly below the surrounding surface in a shallow depression.
- 2:14:03So it's quite possible the second sphinx be hidden beneath
- 2:14:06this higher mound so it's in the right position where
- 2:14:10a second Sphinx would be because I think side by
- 2:14:15side would they be side by side no I don't
- 2:14:18think so I think they it's like the pyramids are
- 2:14:20in the center Sphinx going that way Sphinx going that
- 2:14:23way I think that's the idea does Sphinx appear in
- 2:14:26pairs more than once are they would they looking for
- 2:14:29it because that's a normal like set up Like what's
- 2:14:36the normal configuration of sphinxes? Yes, sphinxes frequently appear in
- 2:14:40pairs in ancient Egypt, Greek and Roman art, often acting
- 2:14:43as guardians in pairs. or long avenues at temple entrances
- 2:14:48rather than as solitary monuments like the Great Sphinx.
- 2:14:51Speaker 2: I mean, that makes sense, right? If they're facing opposite
- 2:14:53ways also, one's guarding the exit, one's at both entrances.
- 2:14:56Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 2:14:57Speaker 3: They're far away from each other, though.
- 2:14:58Speaker 1: Right, but far in relative position to how far the
- 2:15:02Sphinx is from the pyramids in the first place.
- 2:15:04Speaker 4: Well, then we'd have to ask, like, do they appear
- 2:15:06in pairs far away from each other, not next to
- 2:15:09each other?
- 2:15:09Speaker 3: Because that's sort of saying, like, they're guarding doors.
- 2:15:11Speaker 1: Next to each other. Well, there's guarding... I.
- 2:15:13Speaker 2: Understand, but Or just entrances. If there's two entrances, you
- 2:15:16need them.
- 2:15:17Speaker 1: Well, let's put that into perplexity. Ask it when sphinxes
- 2:15:21appear in pairs, what is the configuration? What is the configuration?
- 2:15:33What is the configuration? So maybe it'll tell us there
- 2:15:39and give us, maybe they are like right next to
- 2:15:41each other. And then this doesn't make any sense. Both
- 2:15:44Egyptian art and architecture, sphinxes very often appear in pairs,
- 2:15:47usually flanking an axis such as a road, doorway, or staircase.
- 2:15:52So like two in front of a doorway. Temple approaches, rows,
- 2:15:56or pairs of sphinxes commonly line the processional roads with
- 2:16:01one on each side of the central path. So usually
- 2:16:04like on two sides of a door. Gates and doorways,
- 2:16:07gateways and doorways, pair of sphinxs. Orientation idea. Modern popular
- 2:16:12writers often say one face is east and the other
- 2:16:14face is west. Okay. Well, that's different.
- 2:16:17Speaker 2: That's what they would have found.
- 2:16:20Speaker 1: So it's possible that they did it in several different ways,
- 2:16:23but often in twos. So if they do have one
- 2:16:26big sphinx and there's another.
- 2:16:28Speaker 4: But it's pulling that from a Facebook post talking about
- 2:16:31this potential second one.
- 2:16:33Speaker 1: Oh, interesting. Interesting. So it might be horseshit.
- 2:16:36Speaker 3: Just a grain of salt with it is all.
- 2:16:38Speaker 1: Right. We won't know until they get in there. But
- 2:16:40if it is there and it's just under sand, that's
- 2:16:43not that big of a deal because they had to
- 2:16:45uncover this one.
- 2:16:47Speaker 2: How long does it take to excavate these things?
- 2:16:49Speaker 1: It'll take a while. I mean, it's a lot of sand.
- 2:16:51But it depends on how many workers, how many machines. Also,
- 2:16:54they have to do it carefully because you want to
- 2:16:56make sure you don't fuck up the Sphinx. But if
- 2:16:59there is a Sphinx under there, that would be fucking nuts.
- 2:17:03They found a second Sphinx and they dug it out
- 2:17:05and they're like, oh, shit.
- 2:17:06Speaker 3: Look at that Sphinx.
- 2:17:07Speaker 1: Ooh, titties.
- 2:17:08Speaker 3: It's a lady's head.
- 2:17:10Speaker 1: With one titty.
- 2:17:12Speaker 2: The nurturer.
- 2:17:13Speaker 1: That's weird. What a weird head. Like, it's got pointy ears, right?
- 2:17:16Are those ears pointy, or is that just where the
- 2:17:18hair goes?
- 2:17:18Speaker 2: The hair.
- 2:17:20Speaker 1: How weird.
- 2:17:21Speaker 2: Fail.
- 2:17:22Speaker 1: Well, maybe it was a chick. And they're like, nah,
- 2:17:24make it my face. Except one big chick.
- 2:17:27Speaker 3: Like, one big breast?
- 2:17:28Speaker 1: Yeah, one hard one.
- 2:17:30Speaker 2: Fucking arm is jacked.
- 2:17:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like it. A little too much.
- 2:17:34Speaker 2: I mean, total recall, three breasts if you want.
- 2:17:37Speaker 1: Yeah. Isn't it weird that we like two, but we
- 2:17:39don't like three?
- 2:17:39Speaker 2: Yeah, no, three is fucking.
- 2:17:41Speaker 1: Three is gross.
- 2:17:41Speaker 2: Because it's weird, that middle part. You want the separation natural.
- 2:17:45You don't want like a third... It's like a fucking
- 2:17:47weird ornament.
- 2:17:48Speaker 1: You know how hot a girl would have to be...
- 2:17:49to pull off a third tit? They'd be like, I
- 2:17:53think I like it. I didn't like it when I
- 2:17:54first met her, but now I really like it.
- 2:17:56Speaker 2: Why not?
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: Why not? Why not?
- 2:18:00Speaker 2: We're in the future. Total recall.
- 2:18:01Speaker 1: But if it was normal to have three boobs, that's
- 2:18:03what we would like. That's what's weird. Like the female shape,
- 2:18:07the desired female shape, like the fertility doll shape. It's
- 2:18:11very weird how that could have been a bunch of
- 2:18:13different shapes. Like for an ant, it's something a little
- 2:18:15honey on its ass.
- 2:18:16Speaker 2: Exactly. But this is also a thing. Why are we
- 2:18:19so obsessed with ass? I don't know. I am obsessed
- 2:18:22with an ass and shit comes from it. Like you
- 2:18:25shit horrible things from your ass, but yet I love
- 2:18:29looking at that ass.
- 2:18:31Speaker 1: People are complex.
- 2:18:32Speaker 2: And I dream of biting that ass. Like why? When
- 2:18:35I know fecal comes from it.
- 2:18:37Speaker 1: People are confusing. We're confusing to each other.
- 2:18:41Speaker 2: I'm confused at myself.
- 2:18:43Speaker 1: You should be.
- 2:18:44Speaker 2: I really am. But I love myself. Mike Tyson told
- 2:18:49me to never speak bad about myself because my subconscious
- 2:18:53doesn't know whether I'm joking or not.
- 2:18:55Speaker 1: Right. Ooh, that's wise.
- 2:18:57Speaker 2: I think he heard that from fucking Bruce Lee, though.
- 2:18:59I'm not going to lie. I heard Bruce Lee say
- 2:19:00that on some shit recently. I was like, damn, Mike.
- 2:19:03And then I heard Bruce Lee say it.
- 2:19:04Speaker 1: There's something true to that for sure.
- 2:19:06Speaker 2: There's no doubt. No doubt. You know, I always call
- 2:19:09myself a jerk or a schmuck.
- 2:19:10Speaker 1: I'm not. What's this, Jeremy?
- 2:19:12Speaker 3: I'm looking at the oldest known pictures of the Sphinx.
- 2:19:15Speaker 1: This is the oldest known? So part of it's still underground.
- 2:19:18Speaker 3: Somewhere around 1850 to 1860.
- 2:19:18Speaker 1: Wow.
- 2:19:19Speaker 4: I'm trying to find a year on that.
- 2:19:23Speaker 3: This is actually 1892.
- 2:19:24Speaker 2: That's nuts.
- 2:19:26Speaker 3: It looks so strange.
- 2:19:27Speaker 1: The whole thing is so strange, man. That place is
- 2:19:29so old. Even if you just go by what they think,
- 2:19:35which is 4,500 years ago they built this thing. That's
- 2:19:39so crazy. That's so fucking long ago.
- 2:19:41Speaker 2: Well, now they're going to have fucking Rico Verhoeven and
- 2:19:45who else fight there, right?
- 2:19:46Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 2:19:47Speaker 2: Usyk. And Usyk and fucking Verhoeven fight there.
- 2:19:50Speaker 1: That's nuts.
- 2:19:51Speaker 2: That's kind of bugged out.
- 2:19:52Speaker 1: It is kind of bugged out.
- 2:19:53Speaker 2: But I like the idea of using the natural arenas.
- 2:20:00Natural wonders are real. We should have it in Rome.
- 2:20:03Speaker 1: By the way, it's hot as fuck out there.
- 2:20:05Speaker 2: And the sandstorms. How's this going to work?
- 2:20:08Speaker 1: What are they going to do?
- 2:20:09Speaker 2: How's this going to work?
- 2:20:10Speaker 1: What if there's a fucking sandstorm in the middle of
- 2:20:11the fight and they get sand in their eyes? They're
- 2:20:13swinging blind.
- 2:20:14Speaker 2: They fucking tried to do it in Times Square. That
- 2:20:16was a mess.
- 2:20:17Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't work out so well. The fights weren't
- 2:20:19that good either. Except Tia Fimo. Tia Fimo fought really well.
- 2:20:22Speaker 2: You got to bring the right people.
- 2:20:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:20:27Speaker 1: Someone was saying that it's almost like they're paying them
- 2:20:28so much that these guys are scared to lose. You
- 2:20:32know what I mean? Like that was the argument about
- 2:20:34that Times Square card.
- 2:20:36Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:20:37Speaker 1: Because the Saudis came in and just went– Throwing it.
- 2:20:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, man. They don't like rap, huh?
- 2:20:47Speaker 1: They probably do.
- 2:20:49Speaker 2: They haven't hollered at me. Oh, man. I would go there.
- 2:20:56I'd be interested in seeing the Middle East. I'd be
- 2:20:59interesting to see. It'd be interesting to see all these places, man.
- 2:21:02I've been to a lot of places on Earth, but
- 2:21:04never over there.
- 2:21:05Speaker 1: I've been to Dubai briefly for a UFC weigh-in in
- 2:21:10the UFC, which was in Abu Dhabi. So I've been
- 2:21:13there for that.
- 2:21:13Speaker 3: And?
- 2:21:14Speaker 1: It was great. That was a long time ago. But obviously,
- 2:21:18it was the best possible conditions there with the UFC,
- 2:21:21staying in a nice hotel. a lot of money over
- 2:21:24there man i'll tell you that like when you're in
- 2:21:26dubai and this was quite a while ago so dubai
- 2:21:28is even crazier now i mean the construction there's just
- 2:21:31nuts it's just so fucking like high tech and everything's
- 2:21:36beautiful and no crime.
- 2:21:39Speaker 2: Looks like it seems like a great place to be
- 2:21:42yeah i know people that have.
- 2:21:43Speaker 1: Moved to dubai just because there's no crime.
- 2:21:45Speaker 2: Yeah but there's no hash either Yeah, right. There's hash,
- 2:21:49but they're not letting you smoke it.
- 2:21:50Speaker 1: Bro, you get caught with that. You go to jail forever.
- 2:21:52Speaker 2: Bro, they're the ones who have been making it for
- 2:21:54fucking millions of years. What the hell? I know.
- 2:21:55Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
- 2:21:56Speaker 2: What are they doing? They're keeping it for themselves.
- 2:21:58Speaker 1: I wonder why they make it so illegal over there.
- 2:22:01It doesn't make sense.
- 2:22:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:22:03Speaker 1: Because if they didn't, I wonder if they're just worried
- 2:22:05about people behaving foolishly because they don't have any tolerance
- 2:22:09for fucking around over there.
- 2:22:10Speaker 2: Well, you fucking see Amsterdam. That place is a goddamn
- 2:22:12mess when it comes to weed. Even since they made
- 2:22:15weed legal in America, in some places, it's a fucking,
- 2:22:19it's a carnival. It's terrible.
- 2:22:23Speaker 3: Huh?
- 2:22:23Speaker 1: Amsterdam is?
- 2:22:24Speaker 2: No, no, no. Just places in America also, like New York,
- 2:22:27now that weed is legal, it's disgraceful.
- 2:22:29Speaker 1: In what way?
- 2:22:31Speaker 2: Just the culture, like people smoking weed in the street.
- 2:22:36Speaker 1: Openly.
- 2:22:37Speaker 2: Not just openly, but like. obnoxiously like everything is obnoxious.
- 2:22:41Speaker 1: Like weed smoke everywhere it's not just.
- 2:22:43Speaker 2: That it's just the way it's done is obnoxious.
- 2:22:46Speaker 1: It's just like we can finally do it legally yeah let's.
- 2:22:48Speaker 2: Fucking go let's be real stupid about it.
- 2:22:51Speaker 1: Do you think that that'll eventually settle down and this
- 2:22:54is just because it's a new thing that's legal probably
- 2:22:56i think.
- 2:22:57Speaker 2: It's really not even the people who like i you
- 2:22:59know it's not like i'm a connoisseur of smoking weed
- 2:23:05but i kind of am Right. And I like to
- 2:23:07do it in a certain way, but I'm not judging
- 2:23:09how anyone else does it, but I feel like my
- 2:23:11way is best.
- 2:23:12Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.
- 2:23:14Speaker 2: Nice and chill. Yeah. Chilling in the crib. You don't
- 2:23:17want to annoy other people with it.
- 2:23:19Speaker 1: That's the problem.
- 2:23:20Speaker 2: Not having to be like old school back in the day.
- 2:23:22I used to come into class smelling like the most
- 2:23:24weed that I possibly could because that was what I
- 2:23:27was trying to exude. I was trying to be cool.
- 2:23:30Come in smelling like the sourest... You have your friends
- 2:23:32blowing on you? Oh, my God.
- 2:23:33Speaker 1: Blowing on me.
- 2:23:35Speaker 2: Bro, you go in and you're like, whoo, who's fucking smelly?
- 2:23:38That was like some rush. Right. Being in class and
- 2:23:41that happened. And you're all stoned and shit in the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:23:46Speaker 1: It worked out for you.
- 2:23:47Speaker 2: It did.
- 2:23:47Speaker 1: A lot of people probably thought it wouldn't though, right?
- 2:23:49Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. Right. Are you kidding me?
- 2:23:51Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:23:53Speaker 2: I've been sold short my whole life.
- 2:23:55Speaker 1: It'd be funny too. There's people that had a bad
- 2:23:57opinion of it back then and they look at you
- 2:23:58now and like, boy, did I call that one wrong?
- 2:24:01Speaker 2: Just in general, man. Like, I did all right. I
- 2:24:05did all right. I've been reflecting a lot under the
- 2:24:10stars and in nature.
- 2:24:11Speaker 1: Well, I'm just overlanding.
- 2:24:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when I'm not overlanding now, I'm camping. Oh,
- 2:24:17now I'm camped. Stay. Now I'm at camp base camp ground. Yeah.
- 2:24:21I'm grounding. Take my shoes off. Feel the grass.
- 2:24:27Speaker 1: Dude. I went down a crazy space rabbit hole last night.
- 2:24:30I was going down this, um, this rabbit hole of
- 2:24:33black holes. And, uh, You remember, Jamie, I told you
- 2:24:36about that black hole they found that's as big as
- 2:24:38our galaxy?
- 2:24:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:24:41Speaker 1: Not our galaxy, excuse me, our solar system. They found
- 2:24:43a black hole that is so big that it's bigger
- 2:24:48than from here all the way to Pluto. Well, they
- 2:24:50found one now that's bigger than our galaxy. They found
- 2:24:55a black hole that's larger than the– I think it's
- 2:24:58called Phoenix A. See if we can find the Phoenix
- 2:25:02A black hole.
- 2:25:03Speaker 2: If it's larger than the galaxy, there's really no measurement
- 2:25:06of what this is. To even think about you saying, yo,
- 2:25:09it's bigger than our galaxy, what the fuck does that mean?
- 2:25:12What the fuck does that mean?
- 2:25:13Speaker 1: The way this person in this video was explaining it,
- 2:25:15it's so insane because the amount of time that it
- 2:25:19would take for a black hole to suck in that
- 2:25:23much matter to become that massive, there's not enough time
- 2:25:27since the birth of the universe. So they're confused as
- 2:25:30to how it's formed. They're like, well, maybe we're wrong
- 2:25:32about how these things are formed. It's roughly 100 times
- 2:25:36larger than the distance between the sun and Pluto, with
- 2:25:39a diameter of roughly 590 billion kilometers. Unlike many supermassive
- 2:25:46black holes that inhibit star formation, Phoenix A is currently
- 2:25:50in a phase of rapid growth, consuming enough matter to
- 2:25:53grow about 60 solar masses per year. This activity drives
- 2:25:58high rates of star formation in its surrounding galaxy.
- 2:26:01Speaker 2: Fuck. Is there any way to diagnose this black hole
- 2:26:05from here? Can we see it through any telescope, any
- 2:26:08high-powered thing?
- 2:26:08Speaker 1: They detected it, but I don't understand how they detect it.
- 2:26:11Speaker 2: But any of them? Can we see any of them
- 2:26:13in real time?
- 2:26:13Speaker 1: You can't really see a black hole. What you see
- 2:26:15is everything around the black hole getting sucked into it.
- 2:26:18Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you see some sort of weird movement, no?
- 2:26:21Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:26:21Speaker 3: I saw this. I thought you were headed towards this.
- 2:26:24I saw this within the last couple of days.
- 2:26:27Speaker 1: Anton Petrov? No, no.
- 2:26:28Speaker 4: The Milky Way lives in this thing. called a void
- 2:26:32that is like a black hole, but it's like 2
- 2:26:34billion light years across.
- 2:26:36Speaker 3: And we're in the middle of it.
- 2:26:38Speaker 1: What?
- 2:26:38Speaker 4: Look at that picture as an example of what that
- 2:26:41would be.
- 2:26:42Speaker 2: Wow.
- 2:26:43Speaker 3: There's nothing else around us.
- 2:26:45Speaker 2: That's perfect placement.
- 2:26:45Speaker 1: So is that circle supposed to be the Milky Way?
- 2:26:48Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be the Milky Way.
- 2:26:49Speaker 1: That's the galaxy.
- 2:26:50Speaker 3: And then there's a billion light years.
- 2:26:54Speaker 1: In the direction. But that's Earth.
- 2:26:56Speaker 3: Again, it's not the best. Earth is in the Milky Way,
- 2:26:59so it's showing you that.
- 2:27:00Speaker 1: Okay, so the Milky Way is just in the center
- 2:27:02of a void. Is that uncommon? I don't know. That's
- 2:27:07the thing. It's like, are all these galaxies in the
- 2:27:09center of a void? But just the idea that there's
- 2:27:12a supermassive black hole out there that's a hundred times
- 2:27:16more massive or a hundred times larger than the distance
- 2:27:19between Earth and Pluto. Like, what?
- 2:27:22Speaker 2: This is why we have to be smoking weed in
- 2:27:26front of a green screen talking about this. Right. Having
- 2:27:31weird people come on and comment.
- 2:27:34Speaker 1: Have you been paying attention to this news about these
- 2:27:36UFO researchers and scientists that are going missing?
- 2:27:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:27:39Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 2:27:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:27:40Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you think of that? Listen, don't top
- 2:27:43doctors go missing. Don't top physicists go missing. Don't fucking astronauts.
- 2:27:47All these fucking people who are in- Facts. You know?
- 2:27:51Power positions. Yeah. Just position of high intelligence, knowledge. Yeah.
- 2:27:56They go bye-bye. The best heart surgeons on earth, seven
- 2:28:00of them were on the same fucking plane that went down.
- 2:28:02What do you know? The best whatever, whatever. They just
- 2:28:07found the cure for cancer. These 10 doctors, they're on
- 2:28:09a PJ to fucking who the hell knows where and
- 2:28:11they go down.
- 2:28:12Speaker 4: Jesse wrote a good write up about them all that
- 2:28:14I think explains the angle we would prefer to hear about,
- 2:28:18you know, like conspiracies and UFOs and stuff.
- 2:28:21Speaker 1: So he thinks it's a conspiracy? No, I don't know
- 2:28:23that he's saying that yet. Or he's laying out the
- 2:28:24possibility of it being a conspiracy.
- 2:28:25Speaker 3: Correct, and at least from that angle.
- 2:28:27Speaker 2: It's just crazy that all these top doctors and top physicists,
- 2:28:31just like these people, just disappear.
- 2:28:33Speaker 1: One of them was a general.
- 2:28:35Speaker 2: He's the— Generals know shit.
- 2:28:37Speaker 3: He's the king.
- 2:28:37Speaker 1: He was.
- 2:28:38Speaker 3: He was in charge of, I think, the UFO program. Right.
- 2:28:42If there is one.
- 2:28:43Speaker 1: If there is one. But if you did— didn' t he just
- 2:28:46leave the house with just a gun?
- 2:28:49Speaker 3: It's on the screen what he left with.
- 2:28:53Speaker 1: He took a red backpack, his wallet, and a. 38
- 2:28:56caliber revolver.
- 2:28:57Speaker 3: He left behind his phone.
- 2:28:59Speaker 1: He left behind his phone. His wife reported him missing
- 2:29:01within three hours. Despite FBI involvement, Air Force Office of
- 2:29:05Special Investigation searched dogs, drones, helicopters, horseback teams, FLIR sweeps,
- 2:29:10and 700 canvas households. No confirmed sightings of McCasland has
- 2:29:16ever surfaced. Surveillance cameras covered both ends of his street.
- 2:29:20None captured his direction of travel. After weeks of searching,
- 2:29:23the only item recovered was a gray Air Force sweatshirt
- 2:29:27a mile east of his house. Testing could not confirm
- 2:29:31it was his.
- 2:29:31Speaker 3: So he was the first one to disappear.
- 2:29:34Speaker 2: He has no DNA?
- 2:29:35Speaker 1: Sort of.
- 2:29:36Speaker 2: Is that when hair came off?
- 2:29:37Speaker 4: He was the first one to disappear, and then another
- 2:29:40one disappeared, and they were like, they actually might have
- 2:29:42worked together, and then every other day it's like.
- 2:29:44Speaker 3: Now another one, and another one, and another one.
- 2:29:47Speaker 1: Also, if you knew something that the whole world didn't know,
- 2:29:50like if you knew the human race was just a
- 2:29:51bunch of soul containers for some super advanced alien race
- 2:29:56that just uses us as a farm. Yeah, here's why.
- 2:29:59And you're like, what's the purpose?
- 2:30:00Speaker 3: His name pops up because his name was in the job.
- 2:30:02Speaker 2: We're all just an empty body with fucking aliens hosting us.
- 2:30:06Speaker 1: Hacked emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, revealed
- 2:30:09correspondence from Tom DeLonge naming McCaslin directly.
- 2:30:15Speaker 2: DeLonge?
- 2:30:16Speaker 1: I'm saying it wrong, right? No, Tom DeLonge. DeLonge. DeLonge
- 2:30:19wrote that McCaslin helped assemble his advisory team, was deeply
- 2:30:23aware of what DeLonge was trying to achieve, had received
- 2:30:26a four-hour briefing on the project. DeLonge added that McCaslin
- 2:30:31ran the laboratory at Wright-Patterson University Where the Roswell material
- 2:30:35was shipped. But that's all speculation.
- 2:30:40Speaker 3: What's the part?
- 2:30:41Speaker 1: The Roswell material.
- 2:30:42Speaker 2: We keep talking about Roswell and this and that. There's
- 2:30:45so much. Why is it always like focused on that shit?
- 2:30:50Say it again?
- 2:30:51Speaker 3: He did run.
- 2:30:52Speaker 4: It was in charge of the Air Force lab at Wright-Patt.
- 2:30:55That's why it's linked to the Roswell material. The Roswell
- 2:30:57material could be the part you put in parentheses, but
- 2:31:00he did run that lab.
- 2:31:03Speaker 1: It's all very interesting because the lore was that that's
- 2:31:07where the wreckage was shipped.
- 2:31:11Speaker 4: And then the one we were talking about yesterday, Monica Reza,
- 2:31:14I looked her up. She is known for being on
- 2:31:16a patent of some super metal alloy. I was looking
- 2:31:19that up yesterday. That doesn't mean anything specifically.
- 2:31:23Speaker 1: This is the lady that vanished.
- 2:31:24Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:31:25Speaker 1: She was the lady that was hiking. Her friend turned around,
- 2:31:27saw her, kept hiking, said something to her. Kept hiking,
- 2:31:31turned around a little while later, and she was gone.
- 2:31:33No one ever found her.
- 2:31:34Speaker 4: Co-invented an alloy called Mondaloy, which is used in rocket
- 2:31:38engines currently.
- 2:31:39Speaker 1: Dun, dun, dun.
- 2:31:40Speaker 2: Come on.
- 2:31:42Speaker 1: And maybe working on some new shit.
- 2:31:43Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
- 2:31:44Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 2:31:46Speaker 2: I mean, those people who got those patents through all
- 2:31:48those metal, like the fucking guy who got the patent
- 2:31:51to the clip that turns the gun into an automatic
- 2:31:54or the.
- 2:31:55Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 2:31:55Speaker 2: That's that shit.
- 2:31:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:31:56Speaker 2: Right. Those little components turn bigger things into, like, super situations.
- 2:32:03Speaker 1: Well, this is like a crazy alloy for spaceships. Yeah,
- 2:32:06but you need that. Of course. But it's kind of
- 2:32:09weird that that lady is the lady that goes missing.
- 2:32:12So if you were a competitor country, I could see
- 2:32:15why you'd want to take out one of those scientists,
- 2:32:18you know? Definitely. If you were involved in another industry
- 2:32:22that might be harmed by her work, like if her
- 2:32:25work would make your work obsolete.
- 2:32:28Speaker 2: You might want to get rid of her. Get rid
- 2:32:30of her. That's right.
- 2:32:31Speaker 1: Look, that's always happened. People have always done that. You
- 2:32:34can't take it out of the equation. You've got to
- 2:32:36thoroughly investigate.
- 2:32:37Speaker 2: It's a story as old as time.
- 2:32:40Speaker 1: It is, right?
- 2:32:41Speaker 2: You get rid of one person, the next one comes in.
- 2:32:43If they're threatening to you, they go bye-bye.
- 2:32:48Speaker 1: Especially in big business like rocket engines and alloys and
- 2:32:52space travel.
- 2:32:53Speaker 2: And Something as small as fucking numbers betting. They kill
- 2:32:57you for betting numbers. They're not going to kill you
- 2:32:59for that.
- 2:33:02Speaker 1: Truth.
- 2:33:03Speaker 2: Nothing but truth, man.
- 2:33:05Speaker 1: Well, listen, brother. Thanks for being here. Tell us, everybody,
- 2:33:09one more time, your album.
- 2:33:10Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck?
- 2:33:12Speaker 1: Come on, dog. We do.
- 2:33:13Speaker 2: You know I'm not here for that. I'm just here
- 2:33:14to say hello.
- 2:33:15Speaker 1: I'm going to get people to check it out.
- 2:33:17Speaker 2: You think they're going to give a shit?
- 2:33:18Speaker 1: I think they will. Yeah, they'll like it.
- 2:33:20Speaker 2: Yo, fucking Planet Frog coming out real soon. Real soon, man.
- 2:33:24We dropping now. Yo, you already know. That hype shit.
- 2:33:28Speaker 1: Hype shit.
- 2:33:29Speaker 2: You know, I got all kinds of things. I got
- 2:33:32many projects on the way for the year.
- 2:33:34Speaker 1: Fuck, that's delicious. Always.
- 2:33:35Speaker 2: That's always going down. Always. You know that.
- 2:33:38Speaker 1: Boy, shout out to KG Barbecue.
- 2:33:40Speaker 2: Yo, come on. Made them a star.
- 2:33:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:33:42Speaker 2: That was a good workout.
- 2:33:44Speaker 1: KG or KB?
- 2:33:45Speaker 2: KG.
- 2:33:45Speaker 1: KG, yeah, okay. I wanted to make sure.
- 2:33:48Speaker 2: Like I said, I just want to come and work
- 2:33:49out with you and just fucking chill, kick it, talk
- 2:33:52some fucking fights.
- 2:33:53Speaker 1: Anytime, sir. Anytime.
- 2:33:55Speaker 2: That's it.
- 2:33:55Speaker 1: It's always fun to hang with you.
- 2:33:56Speaker 2: You too, bro.
- 2:33:57Speaker 1: Come on, brother.
- 2:33:57Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't give a fuck about my album.
- 2:34:00Fuck that shit. Fuck everything else. I'm here for a
- 2:34:04good time.
- 2:34:05Speaker 1: Well, it was a good time.
- 2:34:06Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 2:34:06Speaker 1: Appreciate you always.
- 2:34:08Speaker 2: All right.
- 2:34:08Speaker 3: All right.
- 2:34:09Speaker 1: Bye, everybody.