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Men's Voices Should be Heard As Long as Feminists Are Speaking For Them | Maintaining Frame 60 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  top of all the other stuff that I already do. You know, So
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  yeah, U Jojo, where are you going? No? No? Did
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  you did he eat his treat already? But go back go back to your
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  belt. What is this that we are we are now discussing today? All
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  right, we're gonna be looking at a video. So there's a channel called
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  Times Radio. It's in the UK, and they did an interview with a
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  feminist author named Caitlin Moran or Moron And I'm not saying that to be insulting,
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  but I'm just I'm not sure how to pronounce it. And the title
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  of this video is Caitlin Morn explains the Problem with Men and uh so that's
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  basically what it's about. And I guess to summarize, like, you know,
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  I saw this, somebody made a suggestion, I think to me on
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  free town square area, you can go to Badger Nation dot online. Anyway,
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  So, um, somebody sent it to me and I thought I would
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  give it a watch, and then I noticed like after that that this same
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  woman she's written some books on women and now she's writing a book about men,
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  and the reason, according to her logic, is that, um uh.
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  You know, essentially, if you want to solve all of women's problems,
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  you also have to solve men's problems. I know, radical, completely
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  out of left field. So she, of course is the only person qualified
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  to do this because there's nobody else, because everybody else has been silenced.
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  So I also noticed that the loud Seedars did a video not I think it
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  was like a day ago or so, not about this interview, but about
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  this article that this woman wrote. Um uh, and Philip Tanser was on
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  there. Shout out to Philip Tanzer. I met him a couple of times.
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  Um well, I don't want to get into it except that he is
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  way too lenient on these people. I mean, it drove me up the
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  wall, how how optimistic he is. So is that the is that the
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  guy who's interviewing No that's no, no, no, no no, not
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  in this video, um the person who's interviewed as a woman. No,
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  Philip Tanser wasn't in a response, it was in a separate video. I'm
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  just saying it's yeah, okay, so all right, but anyway, let's
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  get into the video. So I do have this U. I shifted the
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  color a bit like I usually do. I have a playing at a slightly
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  higher speed. This is all to protect us, um, and we're gonna
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  go ahead and go through it. Jog, take a seat, buddy,
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  I'm not gonna ignoring you well as much as well we can stand, I
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  guess. So all right, let's get started. Half of all women and
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  girls problems. He's met angry man if he's a man, scared man,
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  confused man, and you can't fix the girls and t fix the boys.
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  And is here to talk about her book? What about men? I mean,
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  your previous books have been about women, so how could be a woman
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  more than a woman? And they have sold by the absolute truckload. Do
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  you think, though, in all honest to captain, that men are going
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  to read this book about men? Are you? I think? See?
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  So this is the interviewer like some grandma, and Um. I mentioned to
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  you, Alison that she she does a little bit of pushing back, but
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  it's very tepid and not I think you know what is really needed. But
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  again no, I'm not giving her much. Yeah, you don't understand.
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  And in order to deal with the problem, of being treated like the problem.
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  Men need to be treated by like the problem. But the people who
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  said they were the problem. Yes, all right. So if she's asking
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  if will will men actually read your book? I would hope not. But
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  let's see what she says. I think my suspicion is that women will buy
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  it. It will be wives of husband's going. Look this chapter why said
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  where it says men don't go to the doctor. If you talk to GPS,
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  they'll say that if you if a man comes into surgery and say,
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  well, why are you here? If it's a woman, they'll listened symptoms.
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  If it's a man, they gain My wife made me. It's this
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  whole chapter on kind of okay, men not taking care of Now I'm just
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  going to take you off on that so generalization the lord, I know,
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  I know. So essentially you've written a book to make my men's lives worse.
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  Yeah, that's what. Well, you know what, here's here's the
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  thing. And in response to this chapter on why men don't go to the
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  doctor, if your wife comes up to you and says, oh, why
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  don't you go to the doctor, why didn't you say, Well, I
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  might be very sick. I'm gonna have to take time off work? Do
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  you want to forego buying that extra piece of jewelry or those uh, you
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  know, seven one hundred and seventieth shoes, you know that kind of thing.
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  Like, Yeah, why do men not go to the doctor because they
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  don't want to have to because it challenges that role of being a provider.
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  Like men who use their bodies to do their work do go to the doctor,
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  and they're more likely because they need to keep themselves fit. But men
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  who are of desk jobs don't because first of all, they don't want to
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  know, probably like I fucking hate the doctor. I don't want to know
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  what horrible thing I'm gonna die of. And then the other thing is that
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  what's going to happen, Like it's just gonna be another stress to them.
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  Are they going to be able to take sick days like women get? Are
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  they gonna be able to take a couple of weeks off just to tend in
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  themselves? Are they gonna judge you're doing so? Yeah? Like what is
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  it going to be the end result of that? Is anything appreciable about his
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  life going to change by going to the doctor. Probably not. Plus,
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  you know, well, men don't want to be a burden at least,
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  I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, um so yeah.
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  I turned the music down a little bit just in case it's fighting a little
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  too much. But I think it's pretty low now, so let me know
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  if it sounds okay, all right, let us know about the music because
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  it's new. Yeah, yeah, it's a new thing. We're testing it
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  out, all right, let's keep going the thing. And Lord knows I
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  make them. Oh I love generalization, But I have been married to a
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  man he was never away from the doctors. I mean he couldn't. He
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  couldn't go more than a week without seeking some sort of consultation. So I
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  don't think it's always true that they don't subsets obviously, which the hyper contractor
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  on Google all the time going, I think I've got tenny sailbo, I
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  think I've got house maid's nee. And you're like, est, but do
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  you think that your unsafe territory when you I'm not going to say that it's
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  full of generalizations, but there are some in there. There's the one about
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  how men never talk about emotions and the truth. All right, I'm just
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  pausing it there. Well, men don't talk about their emotions is what she's
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  saying. General No, no, no, no no. The the interviewer
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  is saying, you know, I got it that. Yeah. The Caitlin
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  here is claiming that men their emotions, she's generalizing, and she's going to
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  add to this. And I think this is I mean, it's it's not
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  a bad point, but I don't think it's the whole the whole thing.
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  Truth is, the three of us in this room, we don't know what
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  men talk about when they're on their own because we've never been there. Well,
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  this is why the men that I spoke to you like kind of so
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  when you look at the stats. So the basis of this book is one
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  I'd run out of things to talk about from the point of view the ladies
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  life. My menopause is still not yet happening. So I've got a part
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  of the books on lady things for a while. And secondly, I canceled
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  all of the plans that I had to write this book as quickly as I
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  could when I kept increasingly hearing. First of all, the last ten years
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  had people guy, but what about man? When I want talking about women?
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  What about more about man? Bears quite techy like man? I need
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  to talk about the women with the ultimate irony of feminism. If we've had
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  to solve of women's problems and then solve of men's problems, all right,
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  well, but men have to solve your problems. Like seriously, if you're
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  going to promote this idea that men have all the power to the point where
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  they basically poppet your your head for you, like, I mean, you
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  aren't speaking here, Caitlin. You you are actually being spoken through by a
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  man wearing you the invisible um, the invisible hand of patriarchy is expressing itself
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  through you, Caitlin. Then this is part of your freaking old war of
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  like what do you want to call it, like corpus, feminist corpus.
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  Okay, so if that's the case, if you want to assert that men
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  have all the power, thus women have none of the responsibility, then yes,
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  men have got to solve your problems. I mean, I got into
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  an argument on Twitter and this this feminist wanted to argue that women simultaneously have
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  no power but were responsible for getting themselves the vote, and I'm like,
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  no, it's gotta be one or the other, because you can't just you
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  can't just blame men when it's bad, but then refuse to acknowledge that if
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  men had that power, they were the ones that got women the vote.
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  Okay, you can't. You can't say women were powerless and then in the
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  next breath set and then they had the power too. Yeah, don't get
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  to do that. Reality doesn't bend both ways, no matter how much you
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  think you want it to. So she's talking within the context of an ideology,
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  and that ideology puts all of the blame, all of the agency on
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  men, because if you put any on women, the women would have to
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  take responsibility. So it's really ironic that she's saying, well, feminism has
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  to solve women's issue, where like, what what do you do beyond just
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  opening up your mouths and puking out a litany of complaints. I mean,
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  do you do anything other than that? And then and then maybe throwing up
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  a shingle and taking donations from rich men to sit on your ass and and
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  drink latte. As I've seen the financials and the time things from a lot
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  of these feminist organizations, they certainly, um, you know, if if
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  I was a lazy person who didn't care about delivering some kind of service,
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  I would seriously consider. No, I wouldn't because it's still a lie.
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  I would seriously consider becoming a feminist and opening up a feminist DV shelter or
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  DV organization because you don't have to do anything. You don't have to make
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  anything appreciable, you don't even have to make content. You don't have to
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  do fuck at all. You could just sit there and make millions and then
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  hand hand. You don't have to prove anything. Next. You can your
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  friends. Yeah and yeah, that's the thing. You just claim things.
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  It's like it's just get up there and you're like, you know, I
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  think that patriarchy is responsible for women's hangnails, and everybody like, oh my
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  god, you need money to deal with the gendered violence of hangnails. I
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  mean, it's so obvious now, this is like, ah, anyway,
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  I don't know if this is a trans digression, but ultimate point, you're
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  not fixing your problems. You're whining and looking expectantly at the men around you.
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  Men are still fixing your problems. Now, what what we need to
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  do is give men the leave to fix their own, to spend a little
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  bit of time away from fixing women's problems. To fixing their own Yep,
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  all right, all right. Uh I got a superhow from filthy liberal Brian
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  for ten dollars. I think that's not me, but somebody else. I
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  stand with you most of the time because you actually advocate for men and are
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  not merely grifting for votes. Thank you. I don't know what vote for
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  what? Like, I'm not vote, yeah, running for what? I'm
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  not running for? Well he means like for a party like the Democrats.
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  Oh no, no, I'm not. No, I mean like, do
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  what you want. But but I mean, if we wanted a grift,
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  we'd be feminists like that. It's it's so easy. I like, no,
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  I know their position is better than they do. I could totally do
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  it, but um, I like the truth to Yeah, that's the moneymaker.
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  Yeah, absolutely, presenting women as damsels that need to be saved from
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  some stupid like what is it now, tree book hockey, No pollen,
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  No need saved from the pollen. Now they have a whole cottage industry around
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  botanical sexism. Like that's the way you go. But unfortunately, I don't
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  think I could handle that much lying. Yep, all right, all right,
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  let's keep going. Yeah, I couldn't my soul wouldn't be able to
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  rest. But then I was doing an event on the International Women's Day two
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  years agoy half women, half men, around about the age fifteen and sixteen,
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  and the boys basically hijacked it. And so I'd saying things like,
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  it's harder to be a man than a woman. Now the women are winning
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  in the boys are using okay based boys. I love it. So she
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  went to a what International Women's the event and the boys were there and they
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  hijacked it. I mean, I'm sure she's exaggerating, but still, what
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  about men? That's so great? Love for them? Yeah, good for
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  them? Yeah, And you know what there's probably going to give more of
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  this is they absolutely what feminist does is disconnect, disconnect men's identity from they
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  basically aren't offering a positive male identity by service. Like you, you know,
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  you'd be're an entitled you're an entitled man if you just simply want feedback
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  that you're doing the right thing in society and for women, I've seen that.
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  I've seen fem like just tear into just some male feminists who's like,
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  you know, I don't I don't expect anything, but you know I'm doing
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  this stuff. And then she was like, Oh, you expect so much
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  gratitude, you expect recognition, blah blah. I'm like, he's even said
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  that he didn't really expect it, and I'm like, wow, you know.
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  And that's the thing, yeah, feminists. The more that you try
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  to decouple what men do from like being seen as a positive thing, being
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  seen as a white knight, being seen as saving women, being seen as
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  good, being able to earn that that positive identity through these actions. The
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  more you decouple this, the more men are no longer going to see themselves
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  in that way, and maybe they'll start thinking about their own issues. You
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  see what I'm saying, Like, if you if you stop giving them a
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  positive identity for attending to women's issues, maybe you are actually giving them room
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  to attend to their own. Oh yeah, absolutely, then you don't need
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  them anymore. And I think this is what scares them. I think I
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  think that this woman is terrified of boys realizing that they're that there, you
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  know, that their life matters, and they're sick and tired of being shit
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  on, and um, they're gonna they're gonna, you know, voice their
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  group there there brievances. Jojo, Do you think it's based he's laying down.
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  Do you think it's based speak. If you think it's based, speak,
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  come on, think you can do it. Speak. If you think
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  it's based, No, go ahead, go ahead, come on, no
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  speak. I just want him to do it. He can do it.
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  Go ahead? Speak? What that was kind of low speak again? It
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  was like a roof, now, come over here, come over here.
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  All right, all right, all right, all right, said good luck,
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  all right, I got it, It's all right. I gave it
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  to him. All right. He boofed. He didn't he did. He
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  did a little one like like a grumble at a grumble wolf. All right.
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  Anyway, Um, let's let's let's hear some more. What makes them
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  think that? Well, this is the content of the book, literally going
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  through and seeing seeing what the complaints are. And there's a whole chunky list
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  of stats which, when you look at them, the whole makes you think
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  there is a problem with men that we are not addressing. So boys most
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  likely to be medicated at school for disruptive behavior that the mist like to be
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  excluded. They least likely to go into further education. They're more like to
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  become addicted to drugs, alcohol, and pornography. They make up the majority
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  of prison population, they make up the majority of the homeless population, and
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  suicide is still the leading cause of death for men at the age of fifty
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  now, although obviously in recent years there have been more emotional conversations with men.
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  We've talked a bit about men's health. That's a staff that has not
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  changed. And when you look at so I've had people going this is a
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  generalization that men don't talk about their emotions. I've got ten builders in my
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  house at the moment, or working clas lads who've been listening to be on
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  the radio talking about this stuff. What good Lord, can you imagine being
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  employed by her? Oh? Anyway, are you there? I'm sorry I
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  muted myself accidentally, all right, I was just worried. O. No,
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  it's okay. The other woman, the other woman was saying, oh,
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  you know, I think it was her husband she was talking about,
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  or someone some man she knows would like go to the doctor for any reason.
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  But if you notice in her tone, she sounded kind of um disgusted
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  by that, like he goes to the doctor for anything, right, And
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  it's it's no wonder why men don't talk about their problems with women, because
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  when they do it, there are women that will be disgusted by that weakness,
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  you know. I mean, I'm not saying all of them, but
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  like if it's something they have to worry about, and of course it's where
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  men are getting like a lot of their I guess you could say identity from
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  then. Yeah, I mean, this is the thing like she's not accounting
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  for she's just like, oh, I mean again, when you think men
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  are gods, which is what feminists think, and I guess anytime a god
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  appears to be a little weak, yeah, infinitely powerful godlike beings, when
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  one of them shows like a little bit of weakness, even though you insist
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  that they do it, then you're disgusted when they do so. Well,
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  yeah, because they can't. They can't save you from themselves somehow. Yeah,
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  Okay, let's let's I'm glad that she's recognizing these problems. Yeah,
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  no, they're gonna they're just gonna go around and around there. Of course,
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  let's keep going. Yeah, of course she's not gonna let those problems
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  inform her worldview, which means that she doesn't only recognize them, No,
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  no, And I think ultimately, if you want my thoughts out of what
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  they're ultimately trying to do is they're basically saying, okay, and we said
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  this before, men clearly have problems. They are they are becoming more and
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  more serious. There are big problems with the dating market. There are problems
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  with forming families, there are problems with children. The human race. I
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  mean they don't say this here, but the human race is basically an endangered
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  species right now because of the replacement rates. Uh. But feminism is the
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  solution? Is that that? That's like basically she's like, oh shit,
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  there's a market that's opened up that I haven't tapped into yet, So I
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  gotta make feminism relevant to the market. That's what they're doing. It's not
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  about helping anybody. It's not they don't help women. I mean you know,
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  so, yeah, I would honestly argue that, Um No, it's
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  like, yeah, there's a problem with men being blamed. How can I
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  make this about blaming men? Yeah? Lord, Like, what does feminism
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  add to the world except more ways to blame men for stuff? That's all
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  it does. That's all men have problems. How can we blame them for
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  them? Yep. So okay, I got a supercow from anonymous for five
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  dollars to thank you. And they say, why do people who are insane
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  so often stop brushing slash combing their hair? Uh? She probably you know
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  what, I don't know. I don't know. I think there was a
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  little effort put in, like the eyebrows clearly drawn on. So there is
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  that kind of you know. I watched a Little Mermaid yesterday. I hadn't
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  seen it a long time, the Disney one, the original from nineteen eighty
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  nine, and it's really interesting because I'm not gonna watch a remake, but
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  I will read the original book. There's stuff in that that's interesting. And
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  this woman kind of reminds me of Ursula. That's why I bring it up.
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  She's she's got the eyebrows, you know. But okay, anyway,
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  let's play some more. Thank you for that. Oh, I got a
• 22:26
  super chat d m Man to thirty three gives us ten dollars. Thank you
• 22:30
  dmm man or dm Man and says, HBB has been around for a decade
• 22:36
  and it's probably a good thing that the mrm's talking points are at least getting
• 22:40
  airtime. But it's the mindset that's the real problem, thank you sir.
• 22:45
  Yeah, of course it's hard for people to blaming. Blaming men is not
• 22:48
  going to solve men's problems, nope. But but the thing is that they're
• 22:53
  absolutely allergic to the idea that women could be responsible or to blame. And
• 22:57
  you know, like, I'm fine with I think this is the real thing
• 23:02
  that keeps us from growing huge like other channels. Well, that end,
• 23:04
  we don't have a particular political position that lines in the neater politics of the
• 23:11
  world. Shall we say? Women need to take responsibility the end, and
• 23:18
  not just about their own life, but in general, the need to start
• 23:22
  taking responsibility for their collective what they're doing collectively, because feminists are speaking for
• 23:30
  the female collective and they've done a hell of a lot of damage. So
• 23:33
  the only way to oppose the damage that's been done is to oppose the damage
• 23:40
  that's been done is to take responsibility. And whatever women don't take responsibility isn't
• 23:45
  going to last a generation. Like if if women don't take responsibility for our
• 23:48
  society, it's not gonna last Ohlson, are you okay? You can already
• 23:53
  see the cracks building up? Yeah, what yeah, it did. But
• 23:59
  then it's fine now it did. Just when you were saying last that,
• 24:02
  they're like dragged out, like sorry, you're fine now. Our culture is
• 24:07
  not gonna last if women don't take responsibility for perpetuating it, for maintaining it,
• 24:14
  maintaining the like the emotional foundation of it, you know. And that's
• 24:18
  this just reality. Women have to take responsibility. And I hate to say
• 24:23
  it, but everybody's allergic to that message. Conservatives don't want to hear it.
• 24:27
  I mean they'll talk about how, oh wow, single women they just
• 24:32
  invariably vote Democrat. Why are men not wifing these women up? And I'm
• 24:38
  like, because men haven't figured out how to grow six inches m oh and
• 24:45
  make six figures and make six figures, yeah, have a six pack,
• 24:49
  you know, on a on a Western diet. It's very difficult. So
• 24:53
  it's like, how are men going to and and and literally conservatives And I
• 24:59
  can show you the damn articles because I know somebody's out there saying, oh,
• 25:03
  conservatives don't do that, Yes they do, or whatever you want to
• 25:07
  call them. Traditionalists, they do that. I'm not talking about financially conservative
• 25:11
  or people. I'm talking about the traditionalists. They one hundred percent blame men
• 25:17
  there's a problem with single women. Immediately they turned to why aren't these men
• 25:21
  wifing? These women up sold? They'll revolt Republican. It's like, because
• 25:26
  do you see the standards, Like, I mean, what is what is
• 25:30
  it used to be? Okay? You like when I was dating, you
• 25:34
  know, five eleven was good. You know that that was cool. It
• 25:38
  was cool. You know that that's fine if you're that height. You know,
• 25:42
  even the shorter men would get dates. Because that's just like, it's
• 25:47
  not it's not an it wasn't a it wasn't a baseline expectation. It was
• 25:51
  just cool if you had it right, Yeah, all right, maybe you
• 25:53
  got a bit more attention, you know, and having a partner who would
• 25:57
  help with the financial that's fine, So that the expectations were lower because you
• 26:04
  wanted a companion that was male. We still liked men, We still saw
• 26:10
  them as valuable in and of themselves to a degree, okay. And it
• 26:14
  was also because I think women were more reliant. I can't even bloody believe
• 26:17
  I'm saying this. I think twenty years ago women were more reliant on themselves.
• 26:22
  It's just getting worse and worse, for sure. I think you know,
• 26:25
  and they took more pride on being reliant, like you know that that
• 26:29
  song work in nine to five blah blah blah. You know it was there
• 26:33
  was more pride in being self reliant. And now anything that you do for
• 26:38
  yourself is something that a man isn't doing for you, and that makes them
• 26:44
  an asshole or that makes them entitled. You know if anything you do for
• 26:48
  yourself is male entitlement now, and it's like, how are men supposed to
• 26:55
  become the six foot four, you know, seven pack, seven figure goddamn
• 27:03
  fucking robot that comes home and massages her feet and serves her complex coffee based
• 27:08
  drinks. You know how, there is no way any human being on earth
• 27:14
  came up gophold these standards at this point and don't give me this shit like
• 27:18
  win half stand Are you fucking kidding me? Most men would be happy with
• 27:21
  someone who enjoys their company as loyal and doesn't bitch at them that much.
• 27:26
  So that's it. Like, yes, the Wi foos look crazy like they
• 27:32
  look completely you could never find one in reality, but that's not that isn't
• 27:37
  because that's their expectation. It's because when you can't, you don't think you
• 27:41
  could possibly ever get an actual companion at partner, you might as well go
• 27:47
  for broke with a two D girl, you know, why not? Yeah,
• 27:52
  He's like, there is no alternative at this point, and yet the
• 27:56
  conservatives continue to blame men. It's like, no, women have to take
• 28:00
  responsibility, you know. And at the very least, if you want to
• 28:08
  be girl number sixty seven in some six six six guys harem, then just
• 28:17
  accept the fact that you're exploiting probably a depressed, suicidal sex addict because he's
• 28:26
  good looking. Okay, yeah, all right, just accept that and stop
• 28:30
  whining about oh, men don't want to commit. No, you've chosen a
• 28:33
  man who probably has poor social skills, who probably is suffering from some kind
• 28:41
  of severe depression and he's masking it through sex addiction. He probably is a
• 28:45
  drug problem, and he's just effects looking good. And that's what you've chosen.
• 28:51
  And you have chosen to exploit that man for his sex because you don't
• 28:56
  want to settle for a man who looks about as good as you do.
• 29:00
  Yeah, and stopped with this whining about your fucking choices. This is your
• 29:03
  choice. And how I know that I read this tweet by this woman who
• 29:11
  actually found her I guess, I guess a life partner on tender. You
• 29:15
  know how she did it well? Actually, she said she figured out why
• 29:19
  her girlfriends were having quote unquote bad experiences on tender. She watched them swipe
• 29:25
  I think it's left. I don't know the swipe left or was it right?
• 29:29
  Is it right? Is right? Accepting? I don't know, yeah,
• 29:30
  right, okay. They would swipe right on men that she would never
• 29:38
  have swiped right on. Never. She selected specifically for a profile that indicated
• 29:45
  to her the guy wanted a long term relationship, and she won. She
• 29:52
  got a guy who wanted a long term relationship, and her girlfriends didn't because
• 29:59
  that it wasn't what they were selecting for. It's at this point the female
• 30:03
  victim who is so absurd. These women are waddling up to a goddamn vending
• 30:07
  machine choosing with their own fat fucking fingers a fucking diet pepsi, and then
• 30:15
  when the diet pepsi comes out, you know, funk, they pick it
• 30:19
  up and they're like, why isn't this a fender? Because you chose it.
• 30:26
  You chose that man. You literally dialed that man up and let him
• 30:30
  into your life. Own it. Okay, I don't know. That was
• 30:37
  a bit of a digression. All right, let's let's go. I know
• 30:41
  you got Twitter on the brain. I know you got Twitter on the braining.
• 30:45
  Of women's problems are men. No, women's problems are that they go
• 30:49
  up to a vending machine, dial up a fucking diet pepsi, get a
• 30:53
  diet pepsi, and then then are horrified and don't have to ask who did
• 30:57
  this to me? Yeah, of women's problems are men that are not exactly
• 31:04
  what they want, which, of course they don't know what that is,
• 31:08
  so all right, so not exactly what they want, but exactly what they
• 31:12
  asked. Yeah, well, yeah, except they do, but they don't
• 31:18
  because they want they want all of these sort of like surface level stuff and
• 31:22
  they'll see that that's why they're picking the wrong guys, because you know,
• 31:26
  he's got like he looks tall, six pack, lots of money, but
• 31:30
  he's not loyal or he has like, um, you know, no values
• 31:33
  that a long term partner should have. But they think, well, I
• 31:37
  can, I can change that part, and of course they never do.
• 31:41
  Well, think think about it. These women don't have any long term values
• 31:45
  that are a part of course not. No, No, they ain't loyal.
• 31:48
  I mean, I know, you know, they're just getting exactly what
• 31:52
  they are, except better looking. And there they are still complaining. Yeah,
• 31:56
  of course because they anyway, let's let's keep going. And one of
• 32:00
  them just came out to you, went, yeah, I've got five friends
• 32:02
  whove committee suicide. I'm twenty five. They're all men, and one of
• 32:06
  them committed suicide after he'd broken up with his girlfriend. And the last conversation
• 32:08
  I had with him and he told me broken up his girlfriend, and I
• 32:10
  never thought to even ask him why, Like with men, don't ask follow
• 32:14
  up questions. He was like, I don't know why ready any of my
• 32:16
  friends took their lives because I don't know how to have this condition. Okay,
• 32:20
  and I don't want to miss quit you. But there is a part
• 32:21
  in the book where you talk about maybe because they died, Well, she's
• 32:24
  saying like that he could have intervened earlier before the suicide. Okay, but
• 32:30
  I mean, but it's actually horrible for her to take this man's regret and
• 32:36
  use it as fuel for her ideology. For sure. Yeah, it's discuss
• 32:42
  you know, and where are they told that? Um being a relationship breakdown
• 32:50
  is one of the one of the big flags for a man who has no
• 32:53
  If a man has no mental health history, relationship breakdown is the primal causal
• 33:01
  factor. So that doesn't mean it's it's a causal agent, but they make
• 33:06
  the there's an association with suicide. Yeah, so men are at a higher
• 33:10
  risk after a relationship breakdown or a relationship that's abusive, they're at a higher
• 33:15
  risk for suicide. Did this man know it? Did there anybody ever tell
• 33:20
  him that? What's her diagnosis? What is her diagnosis that men don't act
• 33:27
  like women enough? I mean, this is the same It's the same thing,
• 33:29
  isn't it. It's always the same thing. If men were more like
• 33:31
  women, they be happier, right, Um, Okay, I'm sorry.
• 33:37
  I'm sorry. Am I being a masculinist or something? No, I'm sorry.
• 33:42
  They never mind what I said. Just nix that from the record.
• 33:45
  Okay, let's keep going. Oh, a man can only feel safe on
• 33:50
  burdening himself to a woman if he's if he's heterosexual, I should say,
• 33:52
  I don't know whether it's different for gay men. I'm I don't suppose you
• 33:55
  do either, But they are they are in a safe harbor with a woman
• 33:59
  they trust to burden themselves, but they couldn't ever do it to a male
• 34:01
  friend. But I don't think that the chat tools aren't there. It's been
• 34:05
  really interesting doing the sort of the first couple of live dates and people that
• 34:07
  were coming up at the signing afterwards, most of them you want to have
• 34:08
  a conversation either working educational support services for young boys, and they're saying around
• 34:13
  about the age of seven, that's when you see this massive divergence. Before
• 34:15
  then the genders aren't that much the difference. You've got boys crane school.
• 34:17
  I'm just pas. She's explaining that, okay, go ahead. Around the
• 34:22
  age of seven is when ANDERK starts. So there's a there is. It
• 34:29
  is when the sex differentiations in the brain start to accelerate seven, eight or
• 34:35
  nine. So we have a period of time where the things are happening in
• 34:40
  our braves that are basically the scaffold for puberty. So it's like a pre
• 34:46
  puberty, but it's most of this stuff is it's a scaffold for an adult
• 34:51
  theory of mind, which you'll gain once you're through puberty. It'll probably still
• 34:54
  be developing until you're like thirty five. I think, um, it takes
• 35:00
  while. And the idea that everything happens when you're seven, okay, what
• 35:07
  what? What is her conclusion? What does she thinks going on at seven?
• 35:09
  Let's see? And girls at seven suddenly anything that seemed to be a
• 35:15
  girl's thing always are generally desperate to get away from, and that includes things
• 35:17
  like talking about your emotions, asking questions. The difference between the ladies and
• 35:21
  the men's toilets is the basis that this book wrests on. If you go
• 35:22
  into the women's toilets with a problem, twenty minutes later, three complete chrangeres
• 35:25
  wherey've given you life advice, they'll have handed you a tamp on them to
• 35:28
  come out the d wool dance you or blows away, and you've made three
• 35:30
  friends. Somehow, I doubt that that actually happens. I don't Maybe she
• 35:34
  makes it sound like the women's bathroom. When a woman goes in, it's
• 35:37
  like going to Narnia and everyone is dancing and laughing and singing together. Everything
• 35:45
  is awesome. And in the men's bathroom everyone's on their own, isolated little
• 35:51
  island. First of all, I don't know how women work, but when
• 35:53
  I go to the bathroom. I'm not there to socialize. I'm I'm there
• 35:58
  to relieve myself. It's it's not a club. You know, we used
• 36:01
  to have clubs though, Men used to have clubs, social things. You
• 36:05
  know. We go to bowling alley, we go to a stag club,
• 36:08
  we go to like a men's um members only, like Hunter's Lodge or something
• 36:14
  like that. You know, we used to do that, but then women
• 36:16
  said, you can't do that. Okay, yeah, that's this is actually
• 36:21
  really freaking hilarious. We destroyed all the places where men socialized together and some
• 36:25
  party. Why aren't they socializing in the bathroom, the only place men can
• 36:30
  go to get away from women. And they're like, why why are you?
• 36:37
  Yeah? And the thing is that the only thing that I've done that
• 36:39
  social that men seem to do in the bathroom. And this is not about
• 36:43
  straight men, gay men. There's there, there is something social, but
• 36:45
  it's not this, it's not this kind of lukewarm goodness. Well anyway,
• 36:54
  she's only speculated by the way. Oh, I mean by you guys.
• 37:00
  Do you chat out strange men in the bathroom? Uh? No, oh
• 37:07
  you guys in the chat Have you ever walked up to a guy in the
• 37:12
  in a public bathroom and just asked him how he's doing. I love the
• 37:16
  strength of your stream. Have you heard about how my course my wife resent?
• 37:21
  God damn, I would you even start that? You seem like a
• 37:24
  man with decided opinions? Um, okay. First of all, I've never
• 37:30
  experienced that. But I'm a weird woman, so maybe maybe this is something
• 37:34
  that happens to other women. I don't think it does. I've never had
• 37:37
  that. Like for the most part, their every washroom experience has been sort
• 37:42
  of like you what you say, Brian. Everybody's in there to do their
• 37:45
  business and get the fuck out. Yeah, there's no hugging and singing,
• 37:49
  and and I want songs. I want to take a shit. Yeah,
• 37:57
  I mean no, nobody does. I don't even whistle, like nobody wants
• 38:02
  to hear, like you know my favorite a cappella number, Like nobody wants
• 38:07
  that. I'm not going to form a fucking barbershop quartet with three other dudes
• 38:12
  in the saw. It's not happening. And who rude? Is it too?
• 38:15
  Like? What bathrooms is she talking about? You got like a bunch
• 38:17
  of hands clucking around the fucking sync when you're trying to wash her hand like
• 38:22
  that's just that's even worse than the hover pissers. Oh my god, your
• 38:27
  sters. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Anyway, let's keep
• 38:30
  going and that's worse. What instand that's not going to have any men's toilets.
• 38:34
  I can't come out, sa I'm a bad friend. There's a part
• 38:36
  of me that wants to believe you about that women bonding instantly thing, But
• 38:38
  I'm not sure. What do you think? Which bit the bit about you
• 38:42
  can be on a train with strange women, women who are stranger too,
• 38:44
  you know, strange women although both are us first gentlemen. Then you can
• 38:49
  suddenly find yourselves in these in depth conversations. So I do I do believe
• 38:52
  that to be true. I think there's something we I think we can access.
• 38:55
  I don't. I don't know. I don't know. That's not how
• 38:58
  men work. Maybe maybe women make friends easily, but they also like and
• 39:02
  friendships easily too, because if there's no it's not like a lot of foundation
• 39:07
  on it, you know, under underneath the acquaintance. I don't know.
• 39:13
  I mean, like they're gonna I think what they're but I think what they're
• 39:15
  ultimately trying to say is that women are better at making friends and men are
• 39:20
  and we know that's not true. We know that's not true. All right.
• 39:23
  Women tend to bond over bashing men. Yeah, yeah, men tend
• 39:29
  to bond over building stuff yep, so or their interests or whatever. But
• 39:35
  yeah, all right, and you can't you can't deny that bashing men seems
• 39:37
  to be sort of a national sport for women. Yeah, maybe we could
• 39:42
  like make it into an actual sport, you know, with rules and like
• 39:46
  and referees. Yeah, and roasting men day and then every other day of
• 39:54
  the year, don't Yeah, save it for that day, and then you
• 40:00
  get scores and the woman with the highest score I don't know. Um,
• 40:06
  real quick, somebody, somebody in the live stream or the live chat is
• 40:10
  saying that they're trying to send superchats, but YouTube is being unreliable. If
• 40:15
  you if you want, you can just go to feed the badger dot com
• 40:17
  forward slash just the tip, and we will get most of the donation and
• 40:23
  you'll be able to send a longer message. Just go to feed the Badger
• 40:28
  dot com forward slash just a tip. There's a link in the description,
• 40:30
  and that way you can send us a message without having to wrestle with YouTube.
• 40:35
  And plus most of the donation will go to us instead of half of
• 40:38
  it going to YouTube. And if you're on Rumble, you can do it
• 40:42
  too. And I am watching you guys. That's why I gave you all
• 40:45
  a Rumble chat. You get your own WIFO for Rumble. So all right,
• 40:51
  let's continue. That's a vulnerabilities in a way that we then use to
• 40:54
  our advantage sometimes especially, and I think that some men struggle to do that.
• 41:00
  But I'm so curious as to what you think has held the younger generation
• 41:04
  of men and boys back. When they can see the patriarchy changing in front
• 41:08
  of them, they can see feminism changing in front of them, they haven't
• 41:12
  got the same societal pressures that the men you and I know of our own
• 41:15
  age weep have had. It looks like like with the patriarchy, they could
• 41:22
  see it. It's unfa okay, okay, all right, all right,
• 41:29
  all right. I remember UM tweeting recently, this tweet where UM some feminists
• 41:36
  was bemoaning how the patriarchy creates a standard that one only one to ten percent
• 41:43
  of men can up pull. I'm like, why would a patriarchy make a
• 41:45
  standard that only one percent to ten percent of men can actually like. Wouldn't
• 41:52
  a patriarchy be like, how can I make all men or as many men
• 41:54
  possible content and happy and you know, wife up? How can I do
• 42:00
  that? As a And I mentioned to her, I think that what you're
• 42:05
  looking at, what you're saying is the standards of women on tender Okay,
• 42:09
  I don't know what these women are on because the pressure on men has never
• 42:15
  been greater. The standards that men are expected to uphold has never been higher.
• 42:22
  The standards of men to actually have a partner have never been higher.
• 42:29
  Okay, And that has nothing to do with patriarchy. The standards that men
• 42:34
  want to live up to are the standards that women accept accept in a mate,
• 42:38
  And that has nothing to do with this. Elder God, you think
• 42:43
  iss care bears? Have care bears stared at it? Oh my god?
• 42:51
  Can you imagine the feminous logo on their belly? Um? These people live
• 42:58
  in the cartoon. No they do, Okay, what they do? It's
• 43:00
  like it's like the snake mountain. That's the patriarchy, and skeletor is at
• 43:05
  the top, just like a woman, all right, let's keep you going.
• 43:08
  Oh so if they can't clasp a different way of being, now,
• 43:13
  then do we just accept that men are permanently physiologically different? But then where
• 43:17
  is the template to change? This is the thing like in the last ten
• 43:20
  to fifty years, Okay, are men doomed to be lame permanently physiologically?
• 43:29
  Yes? Lady, what what? What? What have we wandered into?
• 43:34
  We might have to accept very different? There is absolutely no basis to assume
• 43:42
  that men and women are biologically interchangeable. Okay, and then in the next
• 43:47
  breath complain about trans women as well. Look, there is no basis to
• 43:52
  assume that mother nature is highly conservative when it comes to changing stuff. And
• 44:01
  guess what our nearest ancestors had gender or sex roles, a different behavior and
• 44:08
  the male and the female, and we have different behavior and male and female
• 44:14
  okay, period. If you have a mostly mammalian brain, you're gonna have
• 44:20
  different behavior in the male and the female. And I'm probably reptilian, like,
• 44:25
  this is the fact that men and women are different. If anybody denies,
• 44:30
  if anybody needs to think that, oh wow, the care bear star
• 44:35
  has defeated the patriarch. Boys aren't really changing. Um, yeah, you're
• 44:39
  a moron. Oh all right, let's keep going. Such an incredible expansion
• 44:50
  in the kind of women that we say in public life and cultural life,
• 44:52
  you know women. And Shelley Bama signing out stadium tools talking about it was
• 44:57
  married to the president of the United State. She wasn't the president of the
• 44:59
  nice but she stamished, it's never enough, is it? It's never enough?
• 45:06
  Okay, Well, no, I mean she's making a good point,
• 45:08
  like this is this is like the sensible person in the room. I mean,
• 45:13
  yeah, I guess more than compared to the others. Yes, compared
• 45:16
  to the other Okay, said the sensible person in the room, not the
• 45:19
  sensible person in the universe or the world, or in London, in the
• 45:23
  Western Hemisphere or in general. Okay, this is the one that if all
• 45:31
  three of them were on a survival island, this is the one that probably
• 45:36
  would say, if we need to get to the other side of the island,
• 45:40
  why don't we follow the beach as opposed to going through the center?
• 45:46
  Okay, this this would be the one. Why don't we why don't we
• 45:49
  follow a landmark and the But she'd probably gets shouted out by the other ones
• 45:54
  who are like, but that's sexist. Yeah, well we can't we can't
• 45:59
  have that. It's objects. Yeah, double down on our ideology until everything
• 46:05
  implodes and never back it down. Has really changed, Okay, nothing has
• 46:09
  really changed, except now there are a hell of a lot of single women.
• 46:15
  M this is new. This is very new. That's new. Um,
• 46:20
  there are a lot of single women, and now they're men who want
• 46:24
  to remain single. There are more and more men who want to remain single.
• 46:29
  That's also new. That's almost like feminism is absolutely destroying the relationship between
• 46:35
  the sexes almost, like you know, but god damn, wouldn't that be
• 46:38
  making women take response patriarchy backfiring out? Yeah, just just like patchy arts
• 46:46
  men too successful than the presidency, just like she feels out Arenas and you
• 46:51
  know, very little of that. Chatti's about Barrack like kind of if you
• 46:52
  look at the Lexican a female heres and multi conversations by marrying a man,
• 47:00
  that's the point. Yeah, what a bunch of bullshit. Well, also,
• 47:02
  when when you have like all of the media and all of the academics
• 47:07
  and all of Hollywood and all of entertainment and all of the Internet backing you
• 47:14
  and telling everybody to go see your thing, You're probably gonna get a decent
• 47:17
  turnout. I mean, it's I have to say that a lot of it
• 47:21
  has to do with the fact that everybody's pointing at whoever the woman of the
• 47:24
  month is or the day, and they're saying, you need to go see
• 47:28
  this. You know, you need to go to Taylor Swift, you need
• 47:30
  to go see Beyonce, you need to go see Michelle Obama. You gott
• 47:34
  whatever whatever the hot feminist icon is, which is basically whatever feminist claim it
• 47:38
  is. Then everybody and they get promoted through through the roof, even though
• 47:43
  feminists are, you know, the underdogs and they don't have any power.
• 47:47
  But that's that's why. I mean, like, I don't think Obama and
• 47:51
  Michelle Obama has anything interesting to say that I haven't heard before. So why
• 47:55
  there's a just because she's a woman. What does that say about the people
• 47:59
  who do that. I'm gonna go see Michelle Obama's presentation. Why because she's
• 48:02
  a woman, what about her ideas? I don't know, vagina maybe all
• 48:09
  right, but anyway, yeah, I know I'm agreeing. Yeah, I
• 48:13
  mean, whatever ism is to grasp on a new issue and start talking about
• 48:16
  it. Like three years ago, no one was talking about the menicals.
• 48:19
  Now it's everywhere, tell you what you can't move for it literally everywhere.
• 48:22
  I know, I'm jealous, I want mine to come, and so bored
• 48:22
  with the perimedicals and it's kind of holding pause. Is not exactly interesting conversation
• 48:29
  though, and also is not a woman's issue. It's just something that women
• 48:34
  experience. No men, men did that to them. Okay, yeah,
• 48:38
  I'm sure she would claim that. Okay, I'll just make the most of
• 48:45
  its five of you. I'm sure. Enjoy what it comes is always my
• 48:49
  motto. But like and when you look at what boys are saying, the
• 48:51
  boys you know this, you know the rise of people like Andrew Tate if
• 48:52
  you read law Rebates his book Men Who Hate Women. These web facebook sites
• 48:55
  had three hundred to four hundred thousand young men on them, and I think
• 48:59
  a lot of that is becau because we've been so concentrated quite right incorrectly on
• 49:00
  the problems of women and young women and young girls over for the last twenty
• 49:04
  years or so that we don't realize that most of the conversations that a fifteen
• 49:07
  year old boy will have overheard whenever the word man's mentioned, it's things like
• 49:09
  typical men, typical straight white man. Oh, the patriarchy topics, yeah,
• 49:15
  a banana, the sucker. Okay, so yes. The typical thing
• 49:20
  that a fifteen year old boy will overhear is abuse, condemnation, and contempt
• 49:24
  towards his gender identity. And incidentally, when boys turn seven, it's when
• 49:30
  they want to start to develop that unique proposition as a boy and then a
• 49:36
  young man and then an adult man. And you offer that nothing. You
• 49:39
  offer no unique value to men. I don't know what the hell I entertained
• 49:44
  offered men, but presumably he didn't blame them. I think I don't.
• 49:52
  Look m We don't have to talk about whatever entertainer, Okay to attract Matt.
• 50:01
  No, I'm but here's why, because it doesn't matter. If she
• 50:06
  didn't bring up take, she would have brought up Jordan Peterson. If she
• 50:07
  didn't bring up Jordan Peterson, she would have brought up somebody else, and
• 50:10
  they are just the current boogeyman placeholder. That's it. She would have said
• 50:15
  Q and on, she would have said Trump, she would have said whatever.
• 50:19
  But what she wants to do is say boys are not looking to the
• 50:23
  correct idol, that the correct golden calf to worship. It should be us,
• 50:30
  because we control the conversation. People have anything like literally, what are
• 50:36
  you okay? All right? They don't care, they don't care if they
• 50:39
  just want to do an analogy, all right, okay, you got a
• 50:43
  bunch of absolutely starving boys. All right, they're freaking starving. Okay,
• 50:50
  and you got, like, I don't know, a bunch of places that
• 50:53
  could potentially feed them something which is a unique value that they offer the world,
• 51:00
  right, something beneficial. You've already you've already shamed the crap out of
• 51:05
  the family man, the businessman, the pillar of his community, the father.
• 51:08
  You've shamed them to death. So now they don't have that. So
• 51:15
  as your taint opens up his um, I don't know, dogshit and suet
• 51:20
  buffet, and these starving boys just line up for it, okay, And
• 51:27
  you can insert whatever you think about it. I'm just saying, if you
• 51:30
  think it's bad, it's dog shit and sue it. If you think it's
• 51:34
  good, maybe it's McDonald's burgers. But he's feeding them something. Whereas you
• 51:39
  you have opened up a restaurant for young men, and as soon as they
• 51:45
  go through the door, they get punched in the face, and they said,
• 51:47
  yes, your own blood is your meal for the day. Fuck off.
• 51:52
  And then you're saying, well, why are they going over to that
• 51:54
  guy, because he's actually giving them something, and that's something, is at
• 52:00
  least not being blamed more, because not only do you punch him in the
• 52:04
  face, you're like, you, you, you did that to yourself.
• 52:07
  You get that to yourself, sonny, and then you kick him out the
• 52:10
  door. And then you wonder, well, why is it that boys aren't
• 52:14
  coming to us? Why are they going to the guy who is at least
• 52:16
  not punching in the face. Can we can we give Andrew Take that that
• 52:22
  he's not literally punching boys in the face. Well, of course not.
• 52:27
  But like I said, if it was Peterson that opened a restaurant, they'd
• 52:30
  be the same if it was any Basically there, they want to monopolize that.
• 52:37
  They want to monopolize men walking through the door getting punched in the face.
• 52:39
  They don't want anyone else to have an option. So this is why
• 52:44
  talking about whether or not Andrew Take is like bad or good for men is
• 52:49
  irrelevant, because it doesn't matter. They can find a fucking perfect man.
• 52:52
  They could get. Jesus Christ could come back and come down and say I
• 52:57
  think then, yeah, of course they will. They'll be like, oh,
• 53:00
  I can't believe they're talking to this far right conservative Christian son of God.
• 53:07
  Obviously he's obviously dangerous. Nope, but this is what they do.
• 53:09
  This is why I'm saying, like making the case for or against Tate doesn't
• 53:15
  matter, because they do. They have they have no interest in anyone else
• 53:22
  getting involved with like making boys at least feel like their life matters and that
• 53:28
  they're not to blame and that they can take charge of their life and do
• 53:32
  something with it. And again you can say that, you know, if
• 53:37
  we want to use the most current examples, you can say, on one
• 53:38
  end you got Tait and on the other end you got Peterson. It doesn't
• 53:42
  matter. I don't think that they're that far apart. But it doesn't matter
• 53:45
  because you could get the perfect man and they would they would have a problem
• 53:49
  with it because he's not in their club. And that's what matters. So
• 53:52
  I'm telling you, if Jesus Christ came back tomorrow and he walked through the
• 53:57
  door and kiss the entrance on the way and said I'm gonna I'm gonna help
• 54:00
  men. They would flip their ship. It wouldn't matter. They would find
• 54:04
  a way. I don't know. Man, You know, beards aren't in
• 54:07
  right now. He's wearing a dress. He might be trans you know,
• 54:12
  like whatever it takes, right, Okay. So yeah, So basically you
• 54:16
  have this street of restaurants, you know, you got the Andrew Tate street,
• 54:21
  and boys are going in. Young men are going in because at least
• 54:23
  Andrew Tate doesn't blame them, I assume for the situation they're in. While
• 54:28
  recognizing that situation. You got Peterson. Peterson has his own particular thing,
• 54:32
  but he's giving young men a sense that they have some kind of value,
• 54:37
  even if they have to earn it, that it does exist. Right.
• 54:39
  You have Warren Farrell, who also got shamed, also got shamed, and
• 54:45
  he has the nice he's the most fricking egalitarian men's issues advocate in the human
• 54:51
  existence, and he's just basically saying, you know, men have a value
• 54:54
  that's long and you know what it is. It has nothing to do with
• 54:59
  Hay hatred of women. It just has to do with love of men.
• 55:02
  Because the problem with Jesus Christ is he'd love men too much, too much.
• 55:10
  They do not want boys to have a place where they can be loved
• 55:14
  and valued and recognized for having value. They don't want that. They only
• 55:19
  want boys to be able to walk into the restaurant, get punched in the
• 55:22
  face, told theer to blame, and then fuck off and make sure that
• 55:25
  you take responsibility for all the problems that women face. They all they want
• 55:31
  is a place where they can punch out more of these robot conformists who do
• 55:37
  not recognize their own issues and only recognize the importance of women's issues. All
• 55:42
  right, that's what they want. Ye. They have nothing to give young
• 55:46
  men, nothing because they refuse to recognize there's any value to masculinity whatsoever.
• 55:54
  So they're just they're all they just they have nothing. And what they think
• 56:01
  is giving something to young men is to tell young men, well, that
• 56:05
  thing you want, that value you want to be perceived to have. Yeah,
• 56:09
  that's entitlement. You don't have a right to even want it. That's
• 56:15
  their contribution. Yeah, Okay, that could be wrong. You know,
• 56:17
  maybe she's going to come out, she's going to be you know, I
• 56:22
  think that masculinity has these kinds of virtues I think that men are valuable for
• 56:25
  this reason. You know, it's obvious that men must have a value because
• 56:30
  they continue to persist. They evolved alongside us, and they must have equal
• 56:35
  value to women for some reason, even though they don't actually get pregnant in
• 56:38
  our limited on our reproductive I mean, if all humans were women, could
• 56:43
  that conseminate themselves, we would probably be at like sixteen trillion at this point,
• 56:47
  but we're not. So there must be something extremely valuable for men to
• 56:52
  contribute to the human race that enables us is as valuable as why women contribute.
• 57:01
  Right, yeah, okay, all right, let's keep going. I
• 57:06
  think positive about man. It's okay to be a boy. Masculinity isn't in
• 57:09
  itself a bad thing. Is someone like Andrew type, so it brings with
• 57:13
  him a whole bunch of baggage, which he's not going to solve that his
• 57:15
  boy's problem. You have so much baggage, so and wait wait wait wait
• 57:17
  wait, So he's saying there's something positive boys and men. Yeah, but
• 57:23
  he clear he brings baggage, which of course they're not gonna unpack and tell
• 57:28
  us about. But okay, sure, well, no, go back A
• 57:30
  bit like but yeah, that that you really need to point out that everybody
• 57:34
  who's advocated for boys and men bring baggage, like including people that they're nowhere
• 57:40
  near whatever. Even even if you disagree with what Andrew Chade has been charged
• 57:45
  with, there's nobody nowhere near even the allegations of angerage eight. No,
• 57:52
  it doesn't matter all that they have what they need. They have the allegation.
• 57:55
  That's enough now, I mean, look a look at look at the
• 57:59
  allegation against other people. This is why I'm like, I get so frustrated
• 58:02
  because I have to defend people that I don't particularly have an opinion on personally
• 58:07
  on principle, and I had to do it all the time. I mean,
• 58:09
  like, you know, I had to defend Pearl. I don't know
• 58:13
  why. People were just you know, I'm like, come on, these
• 58:15
  people are trying like why are we why are we purity testing? Anyway?
• 58:20
  Let's only Jesus can pass right, And they would be like, what are
• 58:27
  you doing healing the blind men here? There are some blind women over here?
• 58:31
  All right? He isn't in itself a bad thing. Is someone like
• 58:35
  Andrew type, so it brings with him a whole bunch of baggage. She's
• 58:37
  of itself. So she's recognizing, she's recognizing exactly what I'm saying. Nobody
• 58:44
  is talking about the positives of men and masculinity. Is she actually even talking
• 58:49
  about the part like she recognizes it right here? And this, I think
• 58:52
  is one of those times where these individuals actually tell the truth but then completely
• 58:59
  fucking deny. Well yeah, because she's yeah, because what I think she's
• 59:02
  gonna do is she's making it about tactics, so it's not about principles.
• 59:07
  She's saying that, oh, this person is gaining ground because they're doing this
• 59:13
  thing, and they have to be stopped because the threat is you know that
• 59:16
  that he's going to transform men into misogynist because you know, you can just
• 59:21
  do that with words. But but in fact, what she's doing is she's
• 59:24
  saying, I have to be the one, right, I have to be
• 59:28
  the one to save men because they they might destroy feminism. And that's that's
• 59:32
  the main reason why I'm here, That's why I wrote this book. I
• 59:36
  need to preserve the thing that's making me money. I have to preserve the
• 59:38
  ideology. That's all it is. It's not about helping boys. It's not
• 59:42
  even helping about helping women either. I mean, it's about making money,
• 59:45
  so that's a sales pitch and no one else can have it. It's value,
• 59:52
  yep, because they can't copyright men and women. You know, they
• 59:55
  can't own that. So I just want to hone in on this. I
• 1:00:00
  you want to hold in on this? Okay. She has admitted that what
• 1:00:04
  is attractive is exactly what I just said, which is I think a confirmation
• 1:00:07
  of what I'm saying. What's attractive about Andrew take is that he gives boys
• 1:00:13
  and men value and masculinity. He recognizes that there is a value there.
• 1:00:17
  I don't know how well he does that. I cannot all pin on that.
• 1:00:21
  I'm sure there'll be plenty of people saying, oh no, he doesn't
• 1:00:22
  do that doesn't matter. That's what this woman is identifying, and that's exactly
• 1:00:27
  what I'm talking about. That is what these young men are looking for.
• 1:00:31
  Is she going to provide it? Let's see baggage. So you not in
• 1:00:37
  the book the number of young men who believe that, in a sense,
• 1:00:39
  feminism has gone too far, isn't it. It's just as you've just said,
• 1:00:43
  it has left them behind. But what do you think then, kind
• 1:00:46
  of solves that problem. Do you have to wait a whole other generation for
• 1:00:51
  some brave men to be what? Well, the offer I'm making the book,
• 1:00:53
  all right, I'm just pausing it there for the banana again. Had
• 1:00:58
  something here, Yeah, okay, let me tell you something, all right,
• 1:01:05
  Men had a positive identity. There was a perception that men and masculine
• 1:01:10
  masculinity brings something positive to the world, all right. There was a recognition
• 1:01:15
  of it. There were masculine virtues that were recognized as being associated more with
• 1:01:22
  men or expected more of men. Right. Feminism removed all of that.
• 1:01:28
  So when you say feminism has gone when these boys have said feminism has gone
• 1:01:31
  too far, feminism has removed any recognition that there is anything positive about men
• 1:01:37
  and masculinity. It has replaced that with an association and erroneous association with masculinity
• 1:01:44
  with criminality. Okay, so the masculine is mental illness and criminality and all
• 1:01:51
  of the dark parts of humanity. So when you when boys say it's gone
• 1:01:55
  too far, it's literally destroyed their right to exist as men and just feel
• 1:02:01
  like they bring something positive to the world, or at least it refuses to
• 1:02:07
  recognize that fact. That's what it means by going too far. Yeah,
• 1:02:13
  like it shouldn't be like it'd be like a far future world ruled by trans
• 1:02:19
  women. Well like trans female extremists that basically say that biological women add nothing
• 1:02:25
  to the world nothing, you know, because they have implanted wombs, they
• 1:02:30
  can give birth, they can have You know that we are that we are
• 1:02:32
  the supreme species because we are the hermaphrodites or whatever. Biological women are just
• 1:02:38
  a stunted, failed trans woman. And then the women are like, but
• 1:02:45
  but you, but you went too far. You went too far. No
• 1:02:50
  shit, they took away your identity exactly what you did to me in m
• 1:03:00
  Okay, do you need me to continue to talk? You seem to be
• 1:03:02
  no, no, no, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm
• 1:03:05
  gonna play some more O the video. Okay. Look, he's just pointing
• 1:03:07
  out like and if you think women are winning, like if you think boys
• 1:03:10
  are losing, then still statistically we have less money than men. There is
• 1:03:14
  the pay gap. One in four US will be sexually assaulted. It's like,
• 1:03:15
  if we know the structural economy, political problems beyond women, but the
• 1:03:19
  one thing we have called the point you think we are winning has been feminism,
• 1:03:22
  this brilliant Cransols network of things where if you have any problem you oh
• 1:03:24
  god, so where we're not winning because bullshit feminist statistics, but we are
• 1:03:31
  winning because feminism exists. Okay, blow your mind, dude, if you're
• 1:03:40
  gonna talk about sexually assaulted, like, there are statistics now that suggest very
• 1:03:47
  strongly that there's an unbelievably high rate of boys and young men being sexually assaulted.
• 1:03:52
  By the time a young man gets to freaking college, fifty percent are
• 1:03:57
  likely to have been sexually assaulted, mostly by women. All right, Okay,
• 1:04:02
  so compare apples to apples or apples to Yeah, there is apples to
• 1:04:10
  apples. There there there is an epidemic, an unspoken epidemic of female perpetrated
• 1:04:17
  sexual abuse. So that's bullshit and the only reason why we don't recognize it
• 1:04:21
  is because feminist so called scholars get into these statistics and fuck with them.
• 1:04:28
  Like literally, in the last year, according to the CDC, the same
• 1:04:31
  number of men and women are raped. Okay, so get await it's the
• 1:04:35
  UK. You guys don't recognize when a woman forces a man to have sex
• 1:04:39
  that is rape. And what a surprise you don't find the same statistics about
• 1:04:44
  sexual violence when it comes to men. In a society that doesn't even recognize
• 1:04:47
  sexual violence done by women by women against men is rape, you don't find
• 1:04:53
  the same What a fricking surprise, all right, So this is all bullshit.
• 1:04:59
  If we're really honest with ourselves, if we really look at the statistics,
• 1:05:01
  we can't say that women are that much more sexually assaulted than men.
• 1:05:05
  It's not true. And then the wage gap, well, what about the
• 1:05:09
  spending gap? Okay? A woman only has to earn seventy cents to be
• 1:05:15
  able to spend a dollar twenty five to every one dollar that men earn or
• 1:05:19
  men spend. Okay, so a man has to earn a dollar twenty five
• 1:05:28
  to spend a dollar. A woman has to earn seventy five cents to spend
• 1:05:32
  a dollar twenty five. Do you get that that's the spending gap. Why
• 1:05:36
  don't you talk about that? Yeah? Why you talked about the fact that
• 1:05:43
  that money somehow is earned by men and ends up being spent on women,
• 1:05:47
  spent by women, spent four women. Yep. Ye, So this is
• 1:05:51
  all bullshit. So the only thing you have left, the only thing you
• 1:05:56
  have left is feminism, Well, that actually is the one thing that I
• 1:06:00
  would say is actually oppressive of women because feminists do not give a fuck about
• 1:06:06
  women. They want to use them and their problems and distort them so that
• 1:06:13
  they never actually get solved in order to make money and get influence. You.
• 1:06:17
  It's like saying it's like saying the butcher is of benefit to cows.
• 1:06:25
  It's like think feminism is a benefit to women, is like saying the butcher
• 1:06:28
  is beneficial to cows, because the butcher means that they're more cows in a
• 1:06:30
  gym. You know whatever the butcher baws. Okay, you feminist owe everything
• 1:06:38
  to women, every bit of ill gotten clout and money you owe women,
• 1:06:44
  because it was never you that made these gains. It was the fact that
• 1:06:47
  men care about women and they will do whatever is necessary to make women happy
• 1:06:55
  and make them safe. So you know that and you exploit it, and
• 1:07:01
  at the same time you are absolutely destroying the one thing that men that men
• 1:07:08
  and women were evolved to have relationships with each other. That is our wind
• 1:07:12
  condition. Okay. A wind condition for a female pear bonding mammal is to
• 1:07:17
  have a partner. A wind condition for a male pear bonding mammal is to
• 1:07:23
  have a partner. You have destroyed the human race is wind condition in order
• 1:07:29
  to use the care that men always had for women to perpetuate your grift.
• 1:07:38
  You are the most destructive misanthropic people on the planet. Ye. No,
• 1:07:43
  no, no, there there's probably more destruction. Perhaps, let's just say
• 1:07:46
  today in this room, in this room. Yes again, that's a fiabadger
• 1:07:55
  dot com for slash, just a tip to send us, just a tip
• 1:07:57
  to send us a super chow. We we'll read it live on the air
• 1:08:00
  and they get they get priority, and then we read the Rumble rants.
• 1:08:04
  If we get any of those, which I haven't yet, that's on Rumble,
• 1:08:08
  follows on Rumble if you can. I would prefer that our whole audience
• 1:08:12
  was on Rumble, frankly, because I think it would be better for us
• 1:08:16
  overall. If the audience was there in it be better for Rumble. And
• 1:08:19
  I think we YouTube need some real competitions, So anyway, let us play
• 1:08:24
  some more. You can go online. It'll be a blog or a book
• 1:08:27
  or a film or a movie star or a stand up comedian dealing with that
• 1:08:29
  problem instantly. And there is not that resource for boys. There is that
• 1:08:31
  half of the upbringing that I've done of my teenage daughters was actually done by
• 1:08:35
  the wide network of feminism. Whenever I got something wrong, they could find
• 1:08:38
  another resource. I don't know how I would have raised teenage boys because that
• 1:08:41
  conversation is not happening. Well, I don't happen. Well, I mean,
• 1:08:44
  I'm thank god you're not raising boys. But I feel sorry for your
• 1:08:46
  daughters. So I wonder if is dad around, I wonder, or is
• 1:08:53
  he just paying for them boys? If he does have a son, you
• 1:08:56
  have daughters as well, don't you. So I confess I don't know what
• 1:08:59
  i'd have done, and if I have had sons, to love to have
• 1:09:00
  had a son, But I do want you do talk about the lack of
• 1:09:04
  conversations between fathers and sons in those areas that women. I think most mothers
• 1:09:10
  would routinely discuss with their daughters. Yeah, well, I mean, how
• 1:09:14
  about just the lack of fathers in general, like in the home. So
• 1:09:21
  this is this is really if this sort of feels like a bunch of bears
• 1:09:27
  talking about the problems of salmon. Yeah, yeah, oh god, there's
• 1:09:36
  a big there's a big like there's a big, big question mark, a
• 1:09:40
  big giant thing that's just been talked around. M Oh well, what about
• 1:09:46
  fathers and sons having a conversation? What you care about it? Now?
• 1:09:50
  Yeah? Right, But you don't care about the fact that women can unilaterally
• 1:09:55
  remove the father from the child's life. Okay, all right, Yeah,
• 1:09:59
  Like I said, mister or missus Grizzly, just as really concerned about,
• 1:10:04
  really concerned about the ability for mister Salmon to be able to talk to his
• 1:10:10
  son. Okay, yeah, here, I'm buying it. Anyway, let's
• 1:10:14
  keep going. All right, So, but how can you, as a
• 1:10:16
  woman get into that space and start those conversations happening. Well, that's what
• 1:10:19
  I've tried to do in the book, basically, like what I observed that
• 1:10:21
  you know, I think I'm used to do in How to Be a Woman
• 1:10:24
  is invent a different tone in which you could talk about being a woman,
• 1:10:26
  one that was more playful, more warm, that was accessible. At the
• 1:10:28
  point where I wrote How to Be a Woman, that was obviously feminist.
• 1:10:30
  Musician was amazing, but he had become very academic and dry and generally non
• 1:10:33
  accessible to you. So, like my sister who works on councilor state and
• 1:10:35
  thought Barack Obama was a Barry obar man. Yeah, what, I may
• 1:10:42
  just pausing for the banda and then keep going. I mean, she's just
• 1:10:45
  going on about how feminism was amazing. What just the mendacity of it?
• 1:10:51
  Like, does she literally think that feminism invented men caring about women in the
• 1:10:57
  nineteen seventies. I'm sure she did. I'm sure she does. Yeah,
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  no, but really she's gonna if I said that to her? Do you
• 1:11:06
  think that feminism invented men caring about women in the nineteen seventies? Do you
• 1:11:11
  think that feminism did that? Because she keeps talking about how feminism is a
• 1:11:16
  benefit to women, bullshit, bullshit. And have always cared about women.
• 1:11:24
  Women have always been prioritized for protection and provision. You did not You didn't
• 1:11:29
  change that, You didn't make that instinct. You exploited it. And now
• 1:11:34
  women are what forty five percent of them in twenty and thirty are going to
• 1:11:40
  be single? You know, like you've completely destroyed the wind condition for pure
• 1:11:45
  pair bonding mammal female mammal in our society, completely annihilated it. Well,
• 1:11:50
  I mean I'm sure that Tinder helped. Yeah, but whatever, Okay,
• 1:11:57
  all right, let's keep going, and asked how he was doing in twenty
• 1:12:01
  twelve. So that you want to make it should be a popular culture phenomenon.
• 1:12:03
  And if you're making the offer of I can make your life better,
• 1:12:06
  you need to be able to get hold of it wherever you are. So
• 1:12:09
  in the book, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to show
• 1:12:11
  templates for conversations and tones that were delates. For instance, you know I've
• 1:12:15
  seen feminism do what just completely end the conversations between men and women. Yeah,
• 1:12:24
  Like, if you want to never really understand your husband or your boyfriend,
• 1:12:30
  be a feminist femin explain to him what he experiences because you convinced yourself
• 1:12:39
  that you have some kind of spistemological privilege over his own life that he doesn't
• 1:12:45
  even have. Okay, yep, relationships, that's what it does. Yeah,
• 1:12:54
  language wise here, but like you know, for young girls having pride
• 1:12:57
  in your vagina, for instance, you go on Etsy, there's all this
• 1:12:59
  merchandise by being proud of your body, proud of you. You are the
• 1:13:00
  body positivity movement. Big girls with their roles in their stretch marks, posting
• 1:13:03
  pictures and all their friends going yes, Queen you're on fire. This is
• 1:13:05
  amazing. The idea of the being merchandise for boys to be proud of their
• 1:13:10
  bodies or proud of their genitals. A fat boy posting a picture of himself
• 1:13:13
  in his swim trunks, posting a picture his friends would not be greeting that
• 1:13:15
  with yes, you look amazing body positivity. They wouldn't. Yeah, but
• 1:13:19
  but that's not something to be proud of because you didn't earn it. Boys
• 1:13:26
  don't. I don't know how women work, okay, but boys and men
• 1:13:30
  they don't take pride and shit that just happened. They take pride in things
• 1:13:34
  that they've done, like, oh, look at this thing I invented.
• 1:13:39
  Oh look at this problem I solved. Oh look at this race I won,
• 1:13:44
  this game that I scored points on, this piece of this thing I
• 1:13:49
  built with my hands. Right, they beat the wheel with metal and braun.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah, it's science. What they're taking pride in is being overcoming victimhood.
• 1:14:05
  But they always need not no I know, yea, yeah, they
• 1:14:13
  always need a villain in order to overcome their victimhood, which is the real
• 1:14:16
  evil rub of all of this. Yeah, I know. In the body
• 1:14:20
  positivity movement is he's actually going to do a lot of harm to women if
• 1:14:26
  they embrace it. I'm glad I know that some men are starting to do
• 1:14:29
  it. But I think, like all of this is a bad idea,
• 1:14:31
  Like if you want to be First of all, pride is a sin,
• 1:14:35
  but setting that aside, if you want to be proud of something, be
• 1:14:40
  proud of something that you have done, and that's something that you have achieved,
• 1:14:44
  something you earned, not just like something that you are because you're already
• 1:14:49
  that. It's like being oh being how about how about being proud of being
• 1:14:54
  a uh white? Is that? Oh? Oh, we can't do that.
• 1:14:58
  Oh that's bad? See what I mean? Like, I mean it
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  should be bad because it doesn't It doesn't serve anything except this framework victimhood.
• 1:15:09
  I guess, Okay, this framework is very feminine. It's that you take
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  pride in having endured, which you know in some cases you look at some
• 1:15:16
  of the fairy tales about princesses, that that is what they do. They
• 1:15:20
  endure hardship until a moment where they can seize the day and improve their lives.
• 1:15:26
  So that kind of endurance is I guess you could consider it a female
• 1:15:30
  virtue. So what they're celebrating is the apparent endurance of victimhood. However,
• 1:15:35
  the negative side of that is the endurance of victimhood requires a villain, and
• 1:15:42
  it promotes the idea of scapegoating. So you're going to escape goat a group
• 1:15:45
  of people as inflicting this this damage or this oppression on others in order to
• 1:15:53
  feel virtuous and feel good about having endured it. Well, and then you
• 1:15:57
  can and then you basically lock down the conversation so we can't discuss whether or
• 1:16:01
  not you're chosen victim or scapegoat. Sorry, is accurate, but that's that's
• 1:16:06
  essentially what she's doing. She's expressing this this kind of pride in endurance,
• 1:16:12
  which is a feminine virtue in some ways but not but again, it has
• 1:16:16
  that native that to be the oppressor, and apparently the eagle step mom isn't
• 1:16:23
  isn't acceptable anymore as the oppressor. Yeah, okay, all right, I
• 1:16:27
  got a super chat from Michael Fox, Michael J. Fox, just Michael
• 1:16:31
  Fox. Well, five dollars in New Zealand money. I don't know what
• 1:16:34
  New Zealand dollars like what they are, but thank you Michael Fox. And
• 1:16:39
  he says, or she i don't know. I just came here after watching
• 1:16:42
  an IG short where a male feminist femixplained the pain of a man trying to
• 1:16:47
  say why dating is hard infuriating. Well, just remember they always project,
• 1:16:55
  so he's probably having a hard time in the dating market like most men.
• 1:17:00
  So anyway, let's keep going now. But throughout history, men's physiques physique
• 1:17:06
  has been celebrated in art and in all sorts of other ways, and most
• 1:17:09
  of us didn't know we had evolve until relatively recent I know, until I
• 1:17:12
  had it on these n a couple of years. Think, oh my god,
• 1:17:15
  you know, you know those sculptures she's talking about, like what Greek
• 1:17:19
  and Roman sculptures of men and women. By the way, there were also
• 1:17:24
  women. Um, not a lot of guys look like that, and maybe
• 1:17:28
  you don't see normal men. You'll only see the men who looked like that,
• 1:17:30
  and maybe that's why. But yeah, that's sort of ideal. And
• 1:17:35
  you know, they celebrate the male form like in ancient Greece. I wouldn't
• 1:17:41
  say that they do that these days. Anyway, this is it's a really
• 1:17:46
  important point to make that if oh, I'm sorry, Alison, what were
• 1:17:48
  you saying? I just said this is a bunch of delusional cow shit.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah it is. It's bad a young man does try and do that.
• 1:17:57
  Hey, they fair ridicule largely from girls actually not from from and that's true.
• 1:18:03
  And I mean this is kind of amazing. Yeah, I know,
• 1:18:06
  I know said somebody said, somebody said something true. I guess they felt
• 1:18:11
  comfortable and be like, well, actually girls are the ones that shamed men
• 1:18:14
  for their looks. Yeah, no shit, Um, I mean if men
• 1:18:20
  do it, uh, and they're not just bullying, then it's usually because
• 1:18:28
  those men need a reality check and other men are willing to give it to
• 1:18:30
  them, like, dude, you know you you need to do something about
• 1:18:33
  your weight because they care about them. It's not just because oh it's not
• 1:18:39
  esthetically pleasing to me. No, it's because you might die of a heart
• 1:18:42
  attack if you don't do something. You know, so you might end up
• 1:18:46
  in a wheelchair. You're gonna get diabetes whatever it is. And also they
• 1:18:51
  fay repairing predatory. So you've got a long way to go before boys can
• 1:18:56
  actually have the same playfulness about their bodies that we and are generation might have
• 1:19:00
  become totially And on top of that, the fear of homophobia, which is
• 1:19:02
  like I've looked into the history of previous men's movements that they're try to sort
• 1:19:04
  of come up at the same time. He's feminism, and they usually style
• 1:19:06
  me by a fear of homophobia. So becoming more emotionally, I've been hugging,
• 1:19:10
  you know, treating about your body. No, this is Eric Anderson.
• 1:19:12
  Shit, do you remember Eric Anderson? Do you remember he spoke at
• 1:19:17
  the well let me let me I'll give you a little Okay, he spoke
• 1:19:20
  at ICMI. I want to say the first time we went so twenty sixteen.
• 1:19:30
  Yeah, and I remember you did an interview with him and you pissed
• 1:19:34
  him off. Um, oh right, And yes he had he had this
• 1:19:40
  Yes, he was like a professor and he had this scale that was like,
• 1:19:44
  oh, the more masculine you are, the more homophobic you are,
• 1:19:47
  and the and the more feminine you are, and this is as a man
• 1:19:50
  then like, the less homophobic you are. And he was I mean that
• 1:19:55
  was literally the one to one ratio. And I was like, so you're
• 1:19:58
  saying that if a man is masculin and that means he's homophobic. And he
• 1:20:02
  was basically like yeah. And I was like because because men aren't hugging and
• 1:20:06
  kissing each other, you know, the way that women do. And I'm
• 1:20:10
  like, you know, women do it, but I don't even see it
• 1:20:13
  as often as it's presented. I think that most women, like Lindsay doesn't
• 1:20:16
  kiss other women, right, I don't think Alison does that, So I
• 1:20:19
  don't think it's that common, but it's it is probably more common than men
• 1:20:25
  do. But that just because men don't do that, it doesn't mean that
• 1:20:30
  they're homophobic. Masculinity is is not a see he's presented he presented. The
• 1:20:34
  thing that pissed me off about it was that he was presenting a regular man,
• 1:20:39
  a heterosexual man that does not like a lot of contact, which you
• 1:20:45
  know, and cares about his personal space and doesn't want to like get all
• 1:20:49
  huggy with other dudes and kiss them and all that. He equated that to
• 1:20:55
  homophobia, and I was like, but that's what most men are like,
• 1:21:00
  And it's not like we don't want to be close to people, you know,
• 1:21:02
  like in an intimate like intimate in a way that it doesn't necessarily have
• 1:21:06
  to be physical, but like they share ideas and they and they're they're vulnerable
• 1:21:12
  with other men that they feel close to. But then it's just isn't natural
• 1:21:16
  for most men. And again I'm not you know, again I'm the masculinity
• 1:21:21
  guy here whatever, But I mean, I just want men to be left
• 1:21:26
  alone. I just want men to be left alone to live the way they
• 1:21:29
  want to. Right, if you're if you're the kind of guy that doesn't
• 1:21:32
  like to get touchy feely, I get it. Because of most men are
• 1:21:38
  like that. That's not they're not broken. That doesn't mean there's something wrong
• 1:21:41
  with them, right, I will say something that there has been something over
• 1:21:45
  the last like a century where men have felt less able to be physically close
• 1:21:55
  to one another, just like they've been felt less able to be physically close
• 1:21:59
  to children. And it's because the actions of men are constantly be read in
• 1:22:03
  in terms of sex, like in terms of wanting sex and um. But
• 1:22:10
  but the other thing I wanted to point out, Well, first of all,
• 1:22:13
  I don't think that you can put that back on men. And the
• 1:22:15
  other thing is is homophobia really the culprit here? No, I don't like
• 1:22:24
  because I think the feminism had a really big and destroying being predatory. Well
• 1:22:34
  no, not just that, but in destroying male spaces destroying male clubs,
• 1:22:40
  destroying the Old Boys Network or whatever they want to call it, and also
• 1:22:44
  destroying the men's issues movement. Like I'm not exactly I don't think it was
• 1:22:49
  homophobia that got Warren Farrell shut down and the you I think it was you
• 1:22:54
  t Toronto. Remember that the shouting this is what men's it looks like?
• 1:23:00
  You know that was feminists? Okay, like that was and the first International
• 1:23:05
  conference on men's issues who shut that down? Feminists? You know, wasn't
• 1:23:10
  homophobia? Like this is this is completely how she's completely rewriting history. Okay,
• 1:23:16
  Maybe maybe I don't know men's issues advocates had their first conference ever because
• 1:23:23
  there was a conference before they in the International Conference on Men's Issues, um,
• 1:23:29
  and there's some there's some like material on it. Maybe they came together
• 1:23:34
  and they were like, yeah, we're going to discuss all of these issues.
• 1:23:38
  We're gonna support each other. And then one guy just came up and
• 1:23:41
  said, isn't this a little gay? And then all of them scattered and
• 1:23:45
  that was the end of the men's Issue No, no I citation please,
• 1:23:56
  because I'm I'm leaning more towards you guys did it and you want to blame
• 1:24:00
  homophobia, because that is one step away from just blaming men again. Yep,
• 1:24:05
  when what a surprise, the ideology that blames men for everything? What
• 1:24:10
  are they doing? They're blaming men for destroying their own movement about Um,
• 1:24:19
  yes, that's all it is. It's just blaming men. I got some
• 1:24:26
  rumble rants. Oh thank you guys, rumble rants. Noba Fan twenty one
• 1:24:30
  gives us two dollars and says, is there a story book movie song,
• 1:24:34
  et cetera that highlights the female perspective on how they think life should be fair?
• 1:24:40
  I mean, like what it would look like it was fair? Um
• 1:24:43
  felt It felt a horror movie about a feminist that kills her boyfriend. Um,
• 1:24:51
  oh god, remember felt? Yeah? Oh oh, I never watched
• 1:24:59
  the movie that made me feel raped afterwards. Yeah, Midsummer is another horror
• 1:25:02
  movie that I don't know. I don't know if you felt that way after
• 1:25:06
  felt, but I just I was, like, you know, in the
• 1:25:10
  Oh. No, I was up in the shower, I think, rocking
• 1:25:13
  back and forth. I prayed. I prayed that that was like a one
• 1:25:16
  off and that women aren't like that. But I don't know. Um,
• 1:25:20
  maybe I got lucky. No, you know, what that. That is
• 1:25:23
  a movie that really made me, was like, and it's it was done
• 1:25:26
  by a feminist, right, Oh yeah, I'm like, no, I
• 1:25:30
  have never felt such a strong urge to sew my vagina shop. And remember
• 1:25:34
  she like cut off the guy's penis and then bore it on her body.
• 1:25:38
  Do you remember that? Oh? God, my life, Oh your life,
• 1:25:46
  your life isn't you are the nightmare in your life? Yeah? In
• 1:25:50
  everybody else's life. I'm telling you. That's that. I think that's like
• 1:25:54
  the Power Fantasy. Um okay, Nova Fan twenty one, Thank you,
• 1:25:59
  And then he gets is this another dollar and says, for example, there
• 1:26:01
  seems to be this female idea that doesn't recognize men who push themselves to become
• 1:26:05
  the best in a field as something desirable in a partner, and they project
• 1:26:10
  their female point of view on men. I mean, most of the people
• 1:26:13
  who make films today, at least when it comes to films, I don't
• 1:26:15
  know about literature, they don't understand men. I mean, like you know,
• 1:26:19
  they mostly don't understand the male perspective. So most of it, there
• 1:26:27
  are some good examples, but most of it all right, uh so the
• 1:26:31
  chat on rumble, thank you, guys so much. Shout out to the
• 1:26:35
  Rumble gang, the best gang. Where's the super chat love? I haven't
• 1:26:41
  gotten any super chow. Just the tip, okay, feed the badger dot
• 1:26:46
  com flash just the tip, guys, yeah, do it. Gotta have
• 1:26:51
  opinions on this crap there there, asked me some opinions. I know that
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  person who is having difficulty with the super chats, go to feed the Badger
• 1:27:00
  dot com slash just a tip and put your things through there. Oh that
• 1:27:03
  was badly phrased. M you put your things through there? Do it all
• 1:27:11
  right? All right, let's keep going. Decent stuff would just be disrupted
• 1:27:15
  by people just got well that's quite gay, you like, like, are
• 1:27:17
  you coming on to me? Which is why not? You know when men
• 1:27:23
  call each other gay, they're joking. Do you know that most of the
• 1:27:26
  time, that's that's all it is. They're un believable. I call my
• 1:27:30
  friends gay all the time. There are absolute tragedies like, for example,
• 1:27:38
  a a help group, a peer help support group for men male victims of
• 1:27:45
  sexual violence shut down by women are feminists or can't even operate openly because the
• 1:27:51
  feminists will shut them. And I have heard testimony from from men who've been
• 1:27:56
  dealing with this crap. H This is nothing to do. Homophobia is a
• 1:28:00
  minor issue compared to the fact that you are possessively jealous of the narrative around
• 1:28:08
  victimhood. And if you cannot allow men to be victims of things, you're
• 1:28:12
  not going to be able to do anything for when men are victims. We
• 1:28:15
  just did loud and proud for a whole month, and I think it's going
• 1:28:17
  to extend throughout the whole summer. But homophobia is a big problem guys,
• 1:28:23
  Like all of the major corporations are right behind it. But yeah, big
• 1:28:28
  problem, existential threat, by the way, coming from men. When she
• 1:28:32
  says homophobia, she doesn't mean women. So she might be a turf too,
• 1:28:36
  I don't know, Okay. And again, so far she's been blaming
• 1:28:41
  men for their own problems, all right. She has admitted like, there's
• 1:28:46
  this moment of truth, you know, And I've pointed itself multiple times that
• 1:28:50
  these advocates will have this moment where they acknowledge reality and then somehow they do
• 1:28:57
  this song and dance and they just are like, yeah, that is reality.
• 1:29:00
  But this is why reality doesn't imply, you know. And so she
• 1:29:05
  has already acknowledged that the reason the big thing that men and boys are facing
• 1:29:11
  is nothing positive has ever said about them. Nothing is positive is recognized about
• 1:29:15
  them, And now she's doing this song and dance about well, first of
• 1:29:20
  all, if anything positive would be recognized as their capacity to be women.
• 1:29:24
  And also, you know, homophobia. They shocked themselves in the foot with
• 1:29:28
  the homophobias and all that shit. Okay, when is she going to actually
• 1:29:33
  say something positive? Allison? You know she's not going to Why Like she's
• 1:29:39
  like plot twist, guys, that's a feminist. She doesn't have anything nice
• 1:29:43
  to say about men. She only has a sales pitch baited his misogynist hook
• 1:29:50
  by things by saying positive things about men and boys. And she's going to
• 1:29:56
  oppose that, not by saying positive things about men and boys, but by
• 1:29:59
  do what what are you going to do? What is it say that don't
• 1:30:10
  constantly say things like, oh, yeah, men are there all the worst
• 1:30:13
  enemies. They shoot themselves in the foot. Oh why can't men be more
• 1:30:15
  like women? Yeah, if they were more like women, they could take
• 1:30:20
  pride in being women. But not like that. That's that's bad. They're
• 1:30:27
  taking over our bathrooms and our sports, yep. And then the conservative sorry
• 1:30:32
  again I'm not talking about the fiscal conservatives. Then the conservatives swan in and
• 1:30:38
  they're like, why are men doing this to women? Like women like this?
• 1:30:43
  They're like, yeah, men should be able to take pride in being
• 1:30:45
  women. And then some men are crazy enough to fall for it. And
• 1:30:53
  then the conservatives swan in and they're like, why are you doing this?
• 1:30:58
  I don't know, why are they doing that? Yeah? Okay, of
• 1:31:03
  men, even though they face a lot of problems, do you genuinely seem
• 1:31:05
  to be more tactile? You know? I see boys at my girls school
• 1:31:08
  hugging, you know, being more affectionate. And that's come hand in hand
• 1:31:11
  with the falling homophobia that we've seen. So these things are shifting. But
• 1:31:14
  you know, as you say that, the FEE, I just want to
• 1:31:16
  point out that they're saying that this modern generation of boys is pushing back more
• 1:31:23
  number. Oh yeah, she said. Was that latest generation of boys not
• 1:31:30
  agree monsters exactly? No, No, she said that they were. They're
• 1:31:33
  saying, but it's harder to be a boy. Yeah, because they're complaining,
• 1:31:38
  right, but they're also finding Yeah, people like Andrew Tate, Jordan
• 1:31:42
  Peterson who are the enemy, and they shouldn't be listening to them. You
• 1:31:45
  should be listening to her and by her book. But she doesn't know it.
• 1:31:49
  Well. I guess maybe she has a point that there's a there's an
• 1:31:53
  increase in boys pushing back and lowering of homophobia, and they're more willing to
• 1:31:57
  be physically affectionate towards each other, not sexual affectionate. Let me merely there's
• 1:32:02
  a connection. But then again, if that's the case, why aren't you
• 1:32:08
  supporting it? Because I remember from the beginning you didn't sound very supportive of
• 1:32:13
  young men recognizing their issues and pushing back against your narrative that women have it
• 1:32:17
  worse. Yeah, I don't remember her being sounding supportive. No, no,
• 1:32:23
  all right, I got a supercow a big one too from DMMN thirty
• 1:32:28
  three and then a dash tally rant. I don't know if that's like two
• 1:32:32
  names or one long one. And then the donation is twenty five dollars and
• 1:32:38
  fifty dollars. Thank you so much. That is amazing. Let me say
• 1:32:42
  we can find a good thank you alright, alright, alright. And they
• 1:32:48
  say men need spaces of their own on their own terms, a space outside
• 1:32:54
  of work or home where they are dominated Urban is tube and mostly male space
• 1:33:00
  talks about land use and the importance of space. The Internet presocial media did
• 1:33:04
  serve this role. Gamer Gate was resistance against women's domination of geek culture.
• 1:33:11
  Yes, so I'm just real quick on gamer Gate, and then I'll let
• 1:33:15
  Alison respond to the other part of it. There was two camps because I
• 1:33:18
  was involved with gamergate since before it started. I mean like when it wasn't
• 1:33:21
  called that yet, but I was kind of in the space, you know,
• 1:33:25
  looking at things because we were doing the show before that started happening in
• 1:33:29
  twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. And there were two camps. There was the
• 1:33:34
  all we want to do is you know, get like ethics in in game
• 1:33:39
  journalism, and they were the well they seem to be the louder camp,
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  but it might have been the bigger one. And then there was the camp
• 1:33:45
  I was in, which is basically, look, that's not going to solve
• 1:33:47
  the problem. This is an ideological problem. It's gonna be everywhere if it
• 1:33:51
  isn't already everywhere, and we have to nip it in the bud. The
• 1:33:55
  problem is not that journalists are being you know, shady and there they're getting
• 1:34:00
  free stuff. It's what they believe, and it's not the thing that we
• 1:34:03
  love. They hate the hobby. They just want to use it to make
• 1:34:09
  their political statements. That's the real problem. So I don't know what your
• 1:34:13
  thoughts are in game orgate person who donated dm man, but that's it.
• 1:34:17
  What it was is two camps. I will keep the latter alive because it
• 1:34:21
  never ended. It's still going on. It's just people don't use the hashtag
• 1:34:26
  anymore, but the goal is still there. So anyway, that's all I
• 1:34:29
  wanted to say about that. Long Live Vivian James. Okay, this is
• 1:34:34
  what I'll said. They're inextricably bound up. Yeah, when you say ethics
• 1:34:41
  and journalism, what you mean is meritocracy in journalism, external standards in journalism,
• 1:34:46
  external ethical standards in journalism. And this is not something that I think
• 1:34:53
  comes as naturally to women. And it's for the same reason as I'm saying
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  that they're they're expressing themselves in a feminine way when they talk about enduring hardship
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  as a point of you know, to be proud of enduring hardship. Not
• 1:35:04
  not a bad statement, not untrue, although in their case they have to.
• 1:35:11
  They insist on seeing things that when you complete. And this is why
• 1:35:15
  I say that men and women sort of reinforce the best in each other.
• 1:35:19
  What you're seeing here when she talks about enduring hardship. So let's just talk
• 1:35:24
  about a fat woman, right, She's saying we should celebrate that because she's
• 1:35:30
  endured fat phobia. She's been brave and enduring it. And a man would
• 1:35:34
  say, but she has failed a meritocratic standard of discipline, and she's wearing
• 1:35:43
  that failure. And the fact is that people who fail a meritocratic standard have
• 1:35:49
  to be not necessarily punished, but they have to be afforded the consequences of
• 1:35:54
  their actions, which in her case is to be seen as less attractive.
• 1:35:58
  Okay, And that's the way a man would look at it, and and
• 1:36:01
  she would consider that to be more oppression. So that's why men are cast
• 1:36:06
  as the oppressors because they're always looking at things. Okay, Well, what
• 1:36:10
  have people earned? What are their actions? What are the consequences of their
• 1:36:15
  actions? You know, like she ate a lot of perfiederals. Now she's
• 1:36:17
  a fatass. That's the consequences of her actions. She doesn't deserve to be
• 1:36:23
  he just doesn't deserve to be given laurels for her lack of discipline, for
• 1:36:29
  her lack of attaining amritaocratic standard. And women look at that and say,
• 1:36:32
  oh my god, that's so callous. That's that's awful. Don't you see
• 1:36:38
  how what we should really focus on is the fact that we don't see her
• 1:36:42
  as beautiful because because we have these standards that are unfair. And but those
• 1:36:47
  standards are meritocratic, which is it's just is an expression of how men view
• 1:36:53
  themselves in the world. Okay, when we've a competency and marriage, well,
• 1:37:00
  competency and I think merit is more about whether or not you gain or
• 1:37:05
  lose so competency, it is an inclusion of the whole thing. Ethics and
• 1:37:13
  journalism is about holding journalists to a meritocratic standard, standard of competence and a
• 1:37:19
  standard of ethics. And that is inherently a masculine virtue. This is something
• 1:37:27
  I will, I will, I will, I will go on this thing,
• 1:37:30
  I will go down with this with this boat. This is a this
• 1:37:33
  is something men do. And you can't simultaneously point at it and say,
• 1:37:38
  well, men are callous for for saying to the fat woman while you got
• 1:37:42
  what you deserve failed along the meritocratic standard. You're going to say that without
• 1:37:46
  acknowledging that they're much more likely to see the world in terms of merit,
• 1:37:51
  in terms of what people win, what what they win for themselves, what
• 1:37:55
  they earn for themselves, and what they lose for themselves. You know,
• 1:37:59
  Martin Luther. Content of your character, that's a meritocratic standard. That's a
• 1:38:03
  masculine standard. When that recedes, when that gets pushed out and is replaced
• 1:38:10
  with a feminine standard, which is to focus on the victimhood of people,
• 1:38:15
  and interestingly, only the victimhood of the people you like, the people who
• 1:38:18
  agree with you, and the groups that you think, well, you know,
• 1:38:23
  you advocate for. You virtue signal about, certainly, not the victimhood
• 1:38:28
  of the men who are now being pushed out of the things that they created.
• 1:38:31
  Which is which is? Which is victimhood? I mean, if you
• 1:38:34
  can no longer do something you love, you are you are by definition a
• 1:38:39
  victim of someone else ostracizing you out of that. But they won't recognize that
• 1:38:45
  because, regardless of how much they pride themselves on their compassion, it isn't
• 1:38:50
  really that compassionate. It isn't it, because especially since you when you use
• 1:38:58
  arbitrary standards to decide who you care about, right and and but what I'm
• 1:39:04
  ultimately trying to get at is this, the withdrawal of meritocratic standards is the
• 1:39:14
  withdrawal of masculinity. It's the condemnation of masculinity. It's the removal of masculinity.
• 1:39:19
  And it's one of the first steps in these kind of people who want
• 1:39:27
  to rule through authoritarianism that is justified by their supposed advocacy of the vulnerable.
• 1:39:34
  That's the first thing that they get rid of, because it's their biggest impediment.
• 1:39:40
  Actually, it's the second thing. The first thing they get rid of
• 1:39:42
  is any recognition that the people or the men that they're about to push out
• 1:39:45
  have any vulnerability or victimhood. That's the first thing. That's why the men's
• 1:39:49
  rights activists, the men's issues advocates were the first to go, because you've
• 1:39:54
  got to get rid of that in order to create the narrative that women are
• 1:39:58
  victims of geek gamer culture, they're victims of men. Then that gets your
• 1:40:02
  foot in the door, and then you get rid of all of all of
• 1:40:05
  the virtues because once women are seen as victims of men. Men no longer
• 1:40:11
  can speak, they can no longer establish the things that they think are important,
• 1:40:15
  like meritocratic standards and ethics. They're out the door, and then your
• 1:40:19
  culturists is consumed by them, and they'll start with oh, and then you'll
• 1:40:26
  see it. You saw it with gamer Gate. What did they start with?
• 1:40:30
  They ge geek and gamers faces are anti woman. They got in there
• 1:40:34
  with that. And the reason why they got in there with that is because
• 1:40:38
  most men will submit to that narrative instantly. Yep. They will say,
• 1:40:44
  you're right, I will do whatever it takes, including giving you access to
• 1:40:48
  everything, as long as you end that problem. And then they just come
• 1:40:54
  out with more. As soon as that sort of dies down, they just
• 1:40:57
  start another. Oh, oh, geeking gamer spaces don't don't like black people,
• 1:41:01
  Geeking gamer spaces don't gay people, Geeking gamers spaces don't like furry people.
• 1:41:08
  You know, just on and on and on yep, um, and
• 1:41:12
  they'll just keep it compling. Yep. But it starts with that narrative,
• 1:41:15
  and that narrative starts invariably starts by suppressing, ignoring, and denying the vulnerabilities
• 1:41:21
  that men face yep. Ironically, that's the Shieldie you're breaking up for some
• 1:41:28
  reason a little bit. That's the shield. Yeah, that's the shield.
• 1:41:33
  Oh absolutely, it's the shield and the sword. Okay, So I did
• 1:41:39
  get a really big super chow and then a much smaller one. Well a
• 1:41:45
  still a big one, but much smaller than the previous one. But I
• 1:41:47
  want to play a little bit more of the video first, um, and
• 1:41:51
  then we'll respond to it, and then i'll read the super chow because it's
• 1:41:55
  a big, long one and I think it's a quote from C. S.
• 1:41:58
  Lewis, which is a good choice on that And even though the person
• 1:42:03
  who's sent it through as anonymous, I'm looking in all the chats and someone
• 1:42:08
  named Betty Adams in the Rumble chat mentioned C. S. Lewis, So
• 1:42:12
  I think you're the one that sent the super child. Let me know if
• 1:42:15
  it is you indeed, all right, but anyway, and let's play a
• 1:42:17
  little bit more of the video and then i'll read those super childs. Thank
• 1:42:19
  you so much for the donations. By the way, be talking about your
• 1:42:23
  body. I think that's a massive problem because if you're making a boy he's
• 1:42:26
  fifteen feel that just by being who he is and having a body and want
• 1:42:29
  to talk about it. He's threatening. That's the thing that culture politics con
• 1:42:31
  fix that. That's a cultural problem where we need to find a new way
• 1:42:34
  of talking about these things, where where boys don't need to feel the same
• 1:42:36
  kind of shame and guilt about their bodies as girls did twenty years ago.
• 1:42:40
  I mean, were you shut? Is that really a good idea? Should
• 1:42:45
  Should teachers and culture and society be involved with people talking about their private parts?
• 1:42:53
  I don't. I know that we've been all about that, but I
• 1:42:56
  don't think that's turning out very well, and especially don't like the feminists were
• 1:43:00
  involved. I don't know. Man, creeps me out. Just saying creeps
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  me out. Okay, oops, okay, I was muted, but I
• 1:43:09
  didn't have something to say to that. Okay, okay, okay, Yeah
• 1:43:12
  that's great, But you gotta deal with the fact that once men talk about
• 1:43:15
  their vulnerabilities, they become sexually like every pussy in the room drives up.
• 1:43:20
  Yeah, and there's that, and also like, how are you going to
• 1:43:25
  get them to do that when you've just told them that they're basically like responsible
• 1:43:28
  for one out of four women being raped, or better yet, I've seen
• 1:43:30
  this statistic thrown at me when I was in college that the woman came in
• 1:43:36
  full classroom, not even a classroom, was like a lunch break area,
• 1:43:40
  so there was like a bunch of students in there, and they told us
• 1:43:43
  basically that there was a poll conducted and that according to this pole. Of
• 1:43:46
  course, we didn't get any details on it or anything. Thirty three percent
• 1:43:49
  of boys said that if they thought they could rape a girl and get away
• 1:43:54
  with it, they would What did that do to the entire climate in that
• 1:43:59
  room? This was like the first year I started, Okay, what did
• 1:44:01
  that do to the whole climate? So you can't do That's all feminist ship,
• 1:44:05
  by the way, you can't do that. And then go, why
• 1:44:08
  are boys talking about their their bodies? Why aren't they opening up? Why
• 1:44:12
  aren't they doing thought stuff that women can interpret as predatory or dangerous. I
• 1:44:16
  don't know where they got that idea. Yeah, it's like feminists go into
• 1:44:20
  a space they punch like they punched the men, and then they say,
• 1:44:26
  well, why are you flinching away from us and not opening up to us
• 1:44:30
  because you keep doing this? Yeah, And she starts this by by basically
• 1:44:34
  saying no, man boy. Women still have the big problems because wage gap
• 1:44:39
  in sexual violence. Yeah, both which are bullshit. But she's still situating
• 1:44:44
  women to be the first of the line in terms of care. So here's
• 1:44:48
  the question. What kind of switching bait bait and switches this You're saying,
• 1:44:55
  Oh, yeah, men have these uh Andrew t is well okay insert yeah,
• 1:45:03
  masculine demagogue djo Yeah, masculine booge man djour here is currently appealing to
• 1:45:13
  the the little penis fux, the little penis monsters. I mean, really,
• 1:45:17
  we don't care about them. They're penis monsters. Who gives a fuck
• 1:45:21
  about them? But ultimately we don't want them to think about their own problems
• 1:45:28
  or recognize that they deserve anything. So how do we get them back recognizing
• 1:45:33
  that women have it worse and that women need to put be put first and
• 1:45:38
  ha ha ha, but by put first, I mean put only. How
• 1:45:42
  do we get them back? Let's bait and switch them by saying, oh,
• 1:45:45
  yeah, we care, except you, You've got to realize that you
• 1:45:48
  still need to be put last. Yeah we care. I mean we're never
• 1:45:53
  going to actually do anything about it, because the instant after we say we
• 1:45:56
  care, we ought to blame you for it when this is a bat and
• 1:46:00
  switch. Yep, that they don't ever intend, Like nobody who starts this
• 1:46:05
  conversation by saying, wow, women still have it blah blah blah, they're
• 1:46:10
  ever intends to do anything to help boys and men. Yeah, they're like
• 1:46:14
  neo matrix dodging their own logic in an enclosed space like where where there's no
• 1:46:20
  men there or no no advocate for men that's actually there. That's like,
• 1:46:25
  hey, you guys are full of shit. Like they're literally all mostly in
• 1:46:29
  agreement and they're still having to dodge their own logic bullets. You know,
• 1:46:35
  they're really more like they're more like agents actually than because you know, they're
• 1:46:40
  part of the system. But um, but yeah, it's like it's actually
• 1:46:44
  really funny. It's like, how do we how do we discuss the obvious
• 1:46:47
  fact that men and boys are falling behind women and girls? Because we designed
• 1:46:50
  it that way, and we advocated for that, and we convinced everybody with
• 1:46:56
  power that they could do it without any kind of negative re percussions because men
• 1:47:00
  were unfairly advantaged over women. So we've constructed this entire edifice of how the
• 1:47:06
  world is um, you know, promoting the future is female. But but
• 1:47:12
  it seems that boys are not doing too hot. I mean, it can't
• 1:47:16
  be because our initial bullshit was wrong, Our initial ideological approach to all of
• 1:47:21
  this was wrong, and maybe men weren't privileged. That can't be. It
• 1:47:26
  must be something else that the patriarch he's doing. Yeah, it's imposant through
• 1:47:34
  Okay, Yeah, when you're ready, you won't have to. Um,
• 1:47:39
  okay, So I got Now I'm gonna read the super Chats and super Chow.
• 1:47:43
  So first I'll start with the super Chow. Let me just check rumble
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  here la la la la. Okay, So nothing there, all right,
• 1:47:50
  So this is a big one. I apologize, but I got to read
• 1:47:55
  it as they sent it through. So Anonymous sends us five dollars and says
• 1:48:00
  C. S. Lewis the Four Loves on the women responsible for destroying male
• 1:48:04
  friendship. The presence of such women, thousands strong, helps to account for
• 1:48:09
  the modern disparagement of friendship. They are often completely victorious. They banish male
• 1:48:15
  companionship and therefore male friendship, from whole neighborhoods in the only world they know.
• 1:48:21
  An endless prattling jolly replaces the intercourse of minds. All the men they
• 1:48:28
  meet talk like women while women are present. This victory over friendship is often
• 1:48:32
  unconscious. There is, however, a more militant type of woman who plans
• 1:48:36
  it. I have heard one say, quote, never let two men sit
• 1:48:42
  together, or they'll get talking about some subjects, and then there will be
• 1:48:45
  no fun end quote. Her point could not have been more accurately made.
• 1:48:50
  Talk by all means, the more, the better are, the more of
• 1:48:56
  it, the better, unceasing cascades of the human voice. But not please
• 1:49:00
  a subject. The talk must not be about anything. This gay lady,
• 1:49:04
  this lively accomplished, charming, unendurable bore, was seeking only each evening's amusement,
• 1:49:13
  making the meeting go. But the conscious war against friendship may be fought
• 1:49:17
  on a deeper level. There are women who regarded eighty nine the four Loves
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  with hatred, envy, and fear as the enemy of eros, and perhaps
• 1:49:29
  even more of affection. A woman of that sort has a hundred arts to
• 1:49:32
  break up her husband's friendships. She will quarrel with his friends herself, or
• 1:49:38
  better still, with their wives. She will sneer, obstruct, and lie.
• 1:49:43
  He does not realize that the husband, whom she succeeds in isolating from
• 1:49:46
  his own kind will not be very well worth having. She has emasculated him.
• 1:49:51
  She will grow to be ashamed of him herself. And this is why
• 1:50:00
  Hi, feminists hate cs. C. S Lewis. Yeah, they really
• 1:50:05
  dropped home truths. Like if you read a lot of books from before this
• 1:50:12
  claptrap really started, you can see that men knew what was up. Yeah,
• 1:50:16
  and then they forgot somehow well we stopped, we started raising them differently.
• 1:50:24
  We uh, you know, a bunch of them died in war and
• 1:50:26
  then I don't know, all right, So thank you for that, anonymous.
• 1:50:31
  I feel like that's that's Betty Adams. Yes. C. S.
• 1:50:33
  Lewis is pretty based. Um and uh yeah, I haven't heard that,
• 1:50:40
  but I've watched I have some of audio books that I've listened to. So
• 1:50:45
  playing day and gives us five bucks and says feminists our masters had infecting movements,
• 1:50:50
  communities and any form of momentum in groups in a group makes BLM,
• 1:50:56
  the KKK, GLBT, gaming, academi, comics, political parties, animated
• 1:51:01
  and live action entertainment, etc. And if they can't infect it, they'll
• 1:51:05
  demonize and throttle it to death or at least try. It's like cancer.
• 1:51:10
  I fear that it's terminal and nothing can be done. Go make town.
• 1:51:15
  Thank you playing Dane. Appreciate that. And I got one more from Michael
• 1:51:19
  Fox of who sends us five dollars in New Zealand money says, sending five
• 1:51:26
  dollars to learn y'all badgers once and for all that New Zealand uses dollars.
• 1:51:29
  Love you a ps. Australia uses dollars too. Yeah, but if that
• 1:51:31
  doesn't have George Washington on it, it's not a dollar, it's something else
• 1:51:34
  you guys have, like boomerang money or well, actually, the folks in
• 1:51:40
  Australia they have diggery dues and kangaroo pouches. That's their money, and you
• 1:51:44
  guys have hobbit holes, which is totally cool as far as our concer.
• 1:51:48
  Anyway, thanks guys so much for that. I'm just joking. Let's do
• 1:51:53
  a little more. I mean, we can stop at nine if you want.
• 1:51:57
  This doesn't get it. There is no revel lation, but it might
• 1:52:00
  be okay to hear. Yeah, the revelation came at the beginning when they
• 1:52:08
  had a moment like she had a moment of there was two moments of truth
• 1:52:13
  telling one. Uh. The reason why I entertained is popular is because he
• 1:52:17
  tells boys and men that they have value, which, incidentally, like,
• 1:52:21
  why aren't we that popular? I know it's because I'm not much of a
• 1:52:25
  media personality. I'm sorry, guys, I'm a writer. I don't know
• 1:52:29
  if you've ever seen that meme about writers versus readers, like they have that
• 1:52:32
  um soy jack, not soy jack, but that uh, that character what
• 1:52:38
  is he called? Like the depressed looking character you know in the the Uh,
• 1:52:45
  I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, for fuck's sake,
• 1:52:48
  just give me, you know what, Let's just play more. All right,
• 1:52:51
  We'll just play some more. I'm sorry, I just I just don't
• 1:52:54
  followed by the impacts you realize Paul was having on young boys. Boy,
• 1:53:00
  you probably have held a girl's hand, yes, have, let's face it,
• 1:53:01
  seen all kinds of images, you know, since they were about ten.
• 1:53:04
  Yeah, no, well that was so. One of the chapters which
• 1:53:06
  seems to be getting the biggest response is a boy called Sam and I've known
• 1:53:10
  since he was three, and I talk about him and had to be a
• 1:53:12
  woman, which was probably in twenty eleven where I was talking in that book
• 1:53:15
  about porn obviously, but it's affect on women and going, you know,
• 1:53:16
  it's very much the male gaze that my understand. Oh god. So if
• 1:53:21
  if it's damaging men, if let's say, I know, for the any
• 1:53:27
  of you coomers in the audience, if that's the case, then you you
• 1:53:30
  can't make the argument that it was exclusively harming women. You you But I
• 1:53:36
  guess because you don't want to sound like a Puritan. You're trying to figure
• 1:53:41
  out how can I condemn this thing I don't like without sounding like a Puritan.
• 1:53:45
  And the only way I can do that is to make it feminist,
• 1:53:47
  which is, by the way, Puritanism in its most raw form, unchecked
• 1:53:55
  standing a female sexuality is. It tends to be much more psychedelic, much
• 1:53:57
  weird, and much gentler, kind of you know, more of the mind.
• 1:53:59
  And I hope that by the time the girls and boys that I know,
• 1:54:01
  including Sam, are of an agent to start looking at pornography, there
• 1:54:04
  will be something more wholesome and brilliant tender out there for them. And the
• 1:54:08
  boy isn't well the boy. The boy Sam now is twenty two, and
• 1:54:11
  as he says, in this chapter. By the time you wrote and published
• 1:54:13
  that, I was reading that way you mentioned me, and I was laughing
• 1:54:15
  because I'd already seen hardcore porn. So he's no shit, you know how
• 1:54:18
  easy it is to find. I mean, whatever the male gaze is,
• 1:54:25
  and yes, it is an evil concept. It's what's the hard porn is?
• 1:54:31
  I dude, I don't know if she probably watches it. She's got
• 1:54:35
  she's got coumer hair, whereas I'm concerned, and she probably doesn't watch whatever
• 1:54:43
  she's calling the psychedelic gentle feminine porn. It's it's all porn, guys.
• 1:54:49
  Yeah, I just I can just give you a lot. Okay, I
• 1:54:53
  sent you the image, right, Okay, I found it. I found
• 1:54:57
  the damn image. You can see it right, yeah, I m oh,
• 1:55:00
  I see yeah, yes that comic thing. Yeah, the yes,
• 1:55:05
  there you go that thing. Um. So, what I was going to
• 1:55:11
  say is, you know, I'm a writer, so I'm one of the
• 1:55:14
  lower half there. I don't know what that character is called whoa Jack?
• 1:55:20
  Those are wojacks who Jack? Well maybe the person who reads there is like
• 1:55:25
  a chat but like the man, Yeah, but they're but the other ones
• 1:55:29
  are all whoa Jacks or ever. Yeah, but the woman is a put
• 1:55:32
  together wo jack. Well, well, soy Jacks are the bad ones.
• 1:55:38
  But I think wojack is just general for the face. But I don't know
• 1:55:42
  my my Internet lingo, isn't I wouldn't. I wouldn't consider myself fluid.
• 1:55:47
  I wouldn't consider fluid. Well, anyway, that's what I was. That
• 1:55:49
  was a I'm not even sure anymore of the context of that. Yeah,
• 1:55:56
  I apologize, that's fine, question answered. I guess mystery solved. Yeah,
• 1:56:02
  mystery solved. No, I just don't remember the context. But I
• 1:56:05
  know the mystery. I know the solution. I don't know the mystery.
• 1:56:11
  I now know the solution. However, we have the answer forty two,
• 1:56:15
  but we don't know what the question is. Um, don't the question.
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  I got one more super chow from playing Dane for five bucks, and they
• 1:56:23
  say it is wither wolcheck to the press character Alison was thinking about. I
• 1:56:27
  guess I don't know you saw the picture I shared it. Thank you for
• 1:56:30
  the super chow. Nonetheless, Okay, a little bit more and I think
• 1:56:33
  we can stop. Oh, yeah, a little porn. Well, what
• 1:56:40
  does she think hardcore porn is? It's just I don't know, I mean
• 1:56:45
  misogynistic, misogynistic, physically abusive port against women. I guess you know that's
• 1:56:50
  gone so porn well and this is hardcore is just like I don't know.
• 1:56:56
  All I know is like list you know, Sasha Gray and Riley Read they
• 1:57:01
  were just down. They were down for whatever. I don't you know,
• 1:57:05
  So if you're down for whatever and you know they're into it, I don't
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  think you can put the blame on men for watching, so you know,
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  but yeah, I mean it. I don't think that. I think that
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  it's one of those things where the more of it a man watch or a
• 1:57:25
  person because a woman, it's the same thing. The more you watch,
• 1:57:29
  the more edgy you want to you know that you try to drift away from
• 1:57:32
  the mainstream. So I don't know that there's much. I don't know I'm
• 1:57:39
  saying as a general rule. But but like it's often said, it's it's
• 1:57:42
  just true of men, But I don't think that's the true. I think
• 1:57:45
  it's true, but I don't think it's true of just men. I think
• 1:57:47
  that if you consume it a lot, you will get bored of the normal
• 1:57:51
  stuff. I mean, you can just look at the way that it's evolved.
• 1:57:55
  Like I remember the porn from like the seventies and in the seventies,
• 1:58:00
  it was like, you know, there were like four positions and they didn't
• 1:58:03
  it didn't go look like super long. It wasn't like, you know,
• 1:58:08
  there wasn't a lot of b DSM or or hardcore like violent porn or anything
• 1:58:13
  like that. It was very Most of it was very vanilla at the time.
• 1:58:16
  You know, you occasionally get an orgy or something. And as the
• 1:58:20
  time went on, things got more and more like like basically the budgets got
• 1:58:26
  bigger, and the stunts got more expensive, and they started using costumes and
• 1:58:30
  cgi and everything else. I mean, it's just a natural evolution of anything.
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  But my point is is that, um, when she says hardcore,
• 1:58:40
  I mean, I don't know what you mean, because again, like a
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  lot of it could be interpreted that way. She's just saying that, you
• 1:58:46
  know what I mean? So, um, well yeah that so what I
• 1:58:53
  understood hardcore to mean is explicit penetration. Well I suppose yeah, socore is
• 1:58:59
  like, yeah, that's like the stuff that was like on the Playboy channel
• 1:59:02
  or something. Yeah, just naked women, yeah, or his actual penetration
• 1:59:08
  yeah. Well see that's just to me, that's just porn. But his
• 1:59:13
  ten year old boys watching hardcore porn where the heller his parents did? Um
• 1:59:18
  did? Yeah, but well I don't know. I mean sometimes your parents
• 1:59:25
  just aren't that involved. And you have a friend and he's he's his uncle
• 1:59:29
  came over, brought some tapes. I mean, that's my experience. You
• 1:59:31
  know. I discovered it when I was about eleven. Yeah, I mean
• 1:59:35
  I think you uncle wasn't showing you. No, it wasn't my uncle.
• 1:59:40
  It was a friend's uncle that I that I would hang out with, and
• 1:59:44
  he found his stash, you know, and the uncle was staying there temporarily
• 1:59:47
  and we watched it. But but at the time, I you know,
• 1:59:49
  it was just like something I laughed. It was I was too young to
• 1:59:55
  like be stimulated, you know what I mean. So but the point is
• 1:59:59
  it was hardcore, like even back then, in like the fucking eighties.
• 2:00:02
  So um yeah, anyway, all right, let's language, all right,
• 2:00:09
  let's let's play a little more. And yeah, I think you have eight
• 2:00:12
  nine, ten. Yeah, I can't work quite work at the timeline,
• 2:00:14
  but yeah, he was because the sad thing about you know, you're joined
• 2:00:16
  you know, we will like to think that we'll give to talk about pornography
• 2:00:17
  to our kids, and that we're well informed, and we think maybe sort
• 2:00:19
  of a round about the time they go to secondary school is probably earli than
• 2:00:21
  we'd like to, but that seems sensible. The problem is that your child
• 2:00:25
  sea Portpouly the first time is abolutely predated don basically the naughtiest kid in your
• 2:00:28
  school or class, because it's the kid who's therey with the phone game and
• 2:00:29
  look at this, this is weird, this is freaky, and that's when
• 2:00:31
  your child will start seeing pornography. And well, I mean yeah, but
• 2:00:36
  like parents don't have to give their kids phones. I mean, like my
• 2:00:41
  my brother doesn't allow his daughter to have a phone, you know, until
• 2:00:44
  she's an adult. So like that's that's a parenting issue. I think it's
• 2:00:48
  not. It's not. Last where are the parents? Yeah, where are
• 2:00:53
  the parents? Oh? I know, where are the fathers? Oh right,
• 2:00:57
  you guys did that, and before we think we're gonna talking about and
• 2:01:00
  the terrible truth is that because they are doing exactly that, they are typing
• 2:01:04
  words into a search engine, of course, which is so far removed from
• 2:01:09
  even normal pornography because that's the game, isn't it. Have you seen this
• 2:01:12
  extraordinary? And we won't make any reference to it here, So what they're
• 2:01:15
  going into as their first view is just insane left basically, yeah, and
• 2:01:18
  stuff that would never happen. And I think that in the same way that
• 2:01:20
  like, if you first light up a cigarette a party as a teenager,
• 2:01:24
  there will be one person who'll go, you'll get dited to that. That's
• 2:01:26
  really bad. The first time someone looks at pornography, we don't say the
• 2:01:28
  same thing, but the effects are actually more catastrophic than that, because whatever
• 2:01:30
  you see in those young feeball the years or your back clay, that becomes
• 2:01:33
  your sexual imagination. Those so okay, so they'll go ahead. I don't
• 2:01:40
  know why we're talking, but I don't even know, Like they're spending so
• 2:01:43
  much time on porn, Yeah, so much time on porn. And yet
• 2:01:46
  porn isn't a causal factor for a boy and I'm just talking about boy contributes
• 2:01:53
  the rape culture though, Yeah, but let me finish this, Okay,
• 2:01:56
  that is not a causal factor. That's not recognized by any of the researchers
• 2:02:00
  of scientists into the causal factors of sexual violence in men. Like men being
• 2:02:04
  sexually violent. Right, she's spending so much time on porn, how about
• 2:02:11
  you know, spend a sentence on female sexual abusers. You know, because
• 2:02:15
  that's the biggest causal factor, the biggest single causal factor, because the other,
• 2:02:18
  the other big causal factor is just being abused and then neglected, Like
• 2:02:23
  if you're if you're a boy who is sexually abused and neglected, you have
• 2:02:28
  a high degree of going on to abuse other people. Okay, if you
• 2:02:32
  are, and then usually that's kids because it's more difficult for a very very
• 2:02:38
  young teen to abuse adults. Okay, that is the single largest, like
• 2:02:43
  the two causal factors together, but the single largest causal factor on its own
• 2:02:48
  is having been abused by a woman, So you would do well. And
• 2:02:53
  I want to point this out. If she actually cares about reducing the rate
• 2:02:59
  of rape and not controlling people's porn consumption, she would be talking about that,
• 2:03:05
  not this, So she doesn't like Either she's absolutely ignorant, so she
• 2:03:11
  shouldn't be having a conversation about this at all, or she has an agenda.
• 2:03:16
  Obviously agenda. Yeah, I think we should just stop it here.
• 2:03:20
  But but ultimately, the interviewer asks her like, so you know, what
• 2:03:26
  do we what? What do these boys need? Um? And she says
• 2:03:29
  they need feminism? Do you need to go if no, no, no,
• 2:03:33
  she's she's in the other room. I just didn't want this to go
• 2:03:36
  longer than two hours. We're a little I think we can finish this,
• 2:03:40
  Okay, I think we finish it, all right, I can keep going,
• 2:03:43
  all right. I don't want to what. I don't want to leave
• 2:03:46
  it at this because I think we can go faster. We can, we
• 2:03:48
  can do this, we can, right, I'm willing. Let's go see
• 2:03:55
  this incredibly out there, weird or damaging or just non pleasurable misogynistic pornography.
• 2:04:00
  It's with you for the rest of your life, and armed with those images
• 2:04:01
  that you can't un see, you're expected to go out in the world.
• 2:04:04
  And guys, can you tell me in the in the chat what misogynistic pornography
• 2:04:09
  is? Just I'm just asking what what does that look like to create relationship?
• 2:04:13
  And if there's a willing participant, Like even if it's something that appears
• 2:04:17
  violent, if there's a woman in there and she's willing and she's getting paid
• 2:04:21
  millions of dollars, is that still misogyny and why again, yeah, why
• 2:04:28
  again are we talking about this shit which is irrelevant because she's a pervs.
• 2:04:33
  Because this is like porn. Porn is not like it's It is not a
• 2:04:39
  causal factor. It's not on the board. If you are wanting to reduce
• 2:04:44
  the rate of sexual violence against women, talk about boys being sexually abused and
• 2:04:49
  the other risk factors for them of a very small minority of them. By
• 2:04:54
  the way, this is why I know it's absolutely absurd say that men or
• 2:04:58
  boys who watch misogyn is porn or whatever the hell that means become sexual abusers.
• 2:05:03
  That's bullshit. It takes a lot to turn a boy into a sexual
• 2:05:10
  abuser. It takes being abused physically sexually abused. It takes me further physical
• 2:05:15
  or neglect abuse, and then it also takes mental issues. Like male rapists
• 2:05:23
  are not normal. They're not normal men. They don't start out as normal.
• 2:05:27
  I mean, if they weren't raped, they probably would just be a
• 2:05:30
  little bit odd, a little bit developmentally delayed. Maybe they like lighting firecrackers
• 2:05:34
  in their own hands or some stupid shit. But that's the thing. Nothing
• 2:05:39
  that this woman is talking about is going to make women safer no, Okay,
• 2:05:44
  maybe more flattered, but not safer. And so why is she spending
• 2:05:47
  so much time on it? Okay, comb ships with I mean it's no,
• 2:05:53
  it's impossible. Yeah, And the affect of by the boys and girls
• 2:05:56
  on the amount of young girls I know who just got I never want to
• 2:05:58
  have sex because they've seen these one in pornography, And then why would I
• 2:06:00
  ever want that to happen to me? I don't want to grow up with
• 2:06:01
  that's when you grow up and you have that sex, I don't want to
• 2:06:03
  have it. And boys, mean, while I supposed to turn up completely
• 2:06:05
  clearly there's nice space for tenderness or mistakes or laughter, you know, silliness
• 2:06:12
  or any of the things that actually make sex pun I don't think that's the
• 2:06:16
  case. Like, I don't know. I have a serious doubt. I
• 2:06:23
  have a serious, serious, damn doubt that any girl has said, oh,
• 2:06:27
  I don't want to grow up to have this sex, Like why are
• 2:06:31
  you literally where are they finding this porn? Like is not ninety nine percent
• 2:06:36
  of porn just two people awkwardly having sex like we're amateurs. Yeah, of
• 2:06:41
  course, nobody's gonna go in like Wesley Pipes, most of it like she's
• 2:06:47
  talking about, well, why isn't there the giggling, well have you?
• 2:06:50
  Okay, maybe maybe it's just maybe I'm revealing too much. Maybe it's just
• 2:06:55
  my taste. But no, she's making a lot of assumptions. Again,
• 2:07:00
  an amateur just body everything, well recently, amateur is just two people who
• 2:07:05
  sort of like each other and giggling about it. Yeah, but I think
• 2:07:11
  getting caught up in the taking these arguments seriously is is Uh, It's just
• 2:07:16
  not the way that people work, even if they are washing porn. I
• 2:07:20
  don't I don't think that's how it works. And I think it's just a
• 2:07:24
  woman with a small brain, with a brain a third the size of us.
• 2:07:28
  It's science. Oh god. But I'm curious about her search history now,
• 2:07:39
  like that she thinks that this, this violent misogyn is porn is the
• 2:07:43
  majority of the stiff stuff out there, which again I thought amateur just bodies
• 2:07:46
  everyone at this point. You know. Yeah, But I just, I
• 2:07:54
  just I just can't. I just I just I'm just in a world where
• 2:07:58
  it's all violent misogyn is porn. Have you thought about searching for something else?
• 2:08:01
  Why would I don't find it attractive? I don't know. I think
• 2:08:11
  this. This woman is projecting absolutely some deep guilt about her own search history
• 2:08:18
  here. Well again, it's all about like her job is to find out
• 2:08:22
  how to blame men for ship. So she's making a lot of money.
• 2:08:24
  She's on this radio program dressed like she rolled out of bed, and they
• 2:08:31
  are giving her a platform, put her in front of a camera, and
• 2:08:33
  they're taking her seriously, and they're gonna sell her book. And she is
• 2:08:37
  out here to replace people who like legitimately are trying to help men in whatever
• 2:08:41
  way they can. If they stumble, if they fall irrelevant, she's gonna
• 2:08:46
  take it from ante. Okay, thought, no, that's it. I
• 2:08:54
  want to No, no, you should just go ahead and do it,
• 2:08:56
  because we're gonna try and get the rulers of this video. So go ahead,
• 2:08:58
  oh oh, you know, just just do some work. I'm sure
• 2:09:01
  that this is going to be the topic of conversation for the next five minutes.
• 2:09:05
  HU don't know how we've screwed up sex given the animals manage to do
• 2:09:07
  it like on shed roofs in the rain. Yet we with on this,
• 2:09:11
  Yeah, because of you. We were doing just fine. Like I can't
• 2:09:16
  believe that all the animals in the animal kingdom. You you would say that
• 2:09:20
  they're raping each other, well, that the male animals are raping the females.
• 2:09:26
  Um, Yeah, people like you that fucked this up. He killed
• 2:09:30
  this is suspiciously. Yeah, watches she watches like women horses, I'm sure
• 2:09:37
  of it. Should just see her or crouched by a window with binoculars watching
• 2:09:41
  the dog next door. Fuck up like a god? Right, god?
• 2:09:50
  Lord? Like, could you stop giving us X rays into your spank bank?
• 2:09:52
  Lady? Okay, keep going seeming like, yeah, we must go
• 2:09:56
  back to Andrew type briefly because we can't ignore it because he has a huge
• 2:10:00
  audience and he's got away with it. Yeah, yeah, nobody's questioning me.
• 2:10:07
  I got away with it. Animals, animals managed to pair bond.
• 2:10:11
  Why can't we, I wonder why? Yeah? Exactly all right to feel
• 2:10:18
  that no one else speaks for them or speaks to them, and you quote
• 2:10:22
  a mission. He's right here when he says women are the gatekeepers of the
• 2:10:24
  sexual marketplace. That is true. And if you're a man who doesn't have
• 2:10:28
  a woman, can't get a woman has been denied a woman as they might
• 2:10:31
  perceive it, It's really tough. Yeah, but that's also the reason the
• 2:10:35
  women are getting yeah, go ahead, not denied. Yeah. This is
• 2:10:41
  like I am in the swamps of misogyny, and it's not denied a woman.
• 2:10:46
  All right. Nobody thinks that they're going to be assigned a woman by
• 2:10:50
  the government. Literally, nobody is advocating for that. Maybe there are some
• 2:11:00
  like you know, guys that are really mad and they're just saying something edgy.
• 2:11:03
  But I don't think anyone really wants no, no, not in this
• 2:11:07
  country anyways. But I have seen this exchange. Yeah, wait, wait,
• 2:11:11
  wait, I just got to get this out. I have seen this
• 2:11:13
  exchange on Twitter again. Twitter, I know everybody's growning. An insult will
• 2:11:18
  say something like that guy who self identifies as an insult will say that people
• 2:11:24
  think men are worthless unless they attract a woman. And someone will say,
• 2:11:31
  only what insult would say that, because if you had any worth, you
• 2:11:35
  wouldn't be an insult. And I'm just like, okay, can we just
• 2:11:39
  be honest? I think, yeah, you're making his point, like,
• 2:11:45
  can we just be honest. I think that's what the insults are really infurious
• 2:11:48
  about, is that nobody is being honest. Just be honest. It's not
• 2:11:54
  about entitlement to women's bodies. It's about entitlement to actually having an honest gussion
• 2:12:00
  about the situation and an honest recognition. Don't simultaneously say that men who who
• 2:12:07
  point out that women have standards are entitled. Okay, don't don't say that,
• 2:12:11
  and then say, well, men who don't measure up to those standards
• 2:12:15
  are are worthless. And then they say, well, we're treated as worthless
• 2:12:18
  when we don't measure up to those standards, Well, are you entitled?
• 2:12:22
  Like it's such a circular, vicious bullshit, And I you know, if
• 2:12:26
  I were in that situation, I would be infuriated too, because not only
• 2:12:31
  are you not in a relationship, you're being lied about why. People are
• 2:12:37
  lying to your face about why, and they're engaging in this ridiculous, circuitous
• 2:12:41
  logic that's actually rather vile, and you would just be honest. It's not
• 2:12:48
  about entitlement. It's just slightly autistic people wanting the world to be honest,
• 2:12:54
  very wholesome, okay, right, post me gatekeepers to the sexual world like
• 2:13:01
  it's some kind of resource that's kind of you know, the gates keepers to
• 2:13:03
  their own bodies. And the reason that a woman would not want to have
• 2:13:05
  sex to the man is because she's scared or she doesn't want to. So
• 2:13:07
  the that's not scene is valid reasons. I wonder what makes her scared?
• 2:13:11
  Well, so they put a non statements because she doesn't want to. Nobody
• 2:13:18
  doesn't see like this is that this is the straw man. Ye, once
• 2:13:22
  again they're delegitimizing the position and the questions and the concerns by making the straw
• 2:13:28
  man. Oh that she they're entitled. They want to have access to women's
• 2:13:31
  bodies. Well, men's consent is also the gatekeeper to men's bodies. We
• 2:13:37
  don't have a discussion about that, like, you know, speaking of that,
• 2:13:41
  I was gonna say, okay, so women, it is said that
• 2:13:46
  women are the gatekeepers to sex, and but men are the gatekeepers to commitment.
• 2:13:50
  And um, I think that men need to actually really gate keep the
• 2:13:54
  ship out of that commitment because if they do it, um, I think
• 2:13:58
  that we might have to change their behavior. Right, So a man should
• 2:14:03
  say I'm not going to have sex with you unless we're going to be a
• 2:14:09
  couple or something if he likes her, and that way, she can't use
• 2:14:13
  that against you. And ultimately you can hold some of the cards. And
• 2:14:16
  I don't like to turn a relationship into something competitive or or like a power
• 2:14:22
  sharp because it's not supposed to be. But men should definitely value their companionship
• 2:14:26
  more than they do. I mean, I think it's worth a lot more
• 2:14:31
  than a woman's body. And I don't mean, you know what I mean,
• 2:14:33
  like the sexual access, especially because like so many women just give it
• 2:14:39
  up because they they have been sort of led to believe that that will give
• 2:14:43
  them some kind of value. But men should be the one saying I'm not
• 2:14:48
  dating you unless I think that you are a virtuous woman that is worthy of
• 2:14:52
  that, because it is an investment. Men spend most of their resources on
• 2:14:58
  either women themselves or on the means to attract them. That is basically what
• 2:15:03
  men spend their money on. And if they don't spend it on that they
• 2:15:05
  spend something on themselves, then they get shamed for it. They are called
• 2:15:09
  failure to launch. They are called losers that live in their mother's basements with
• 2:15:13
  their video games or whatever it is. But as long as their resources and
• 2:15:18
  their effort and their work is being put towards a woman, whether she is
• 2:15:22
  real or potential, that is an investment and men have to understand that that
• 2:15:28
  is like what they are doing, and they have to give that value because
• 2:15:33
  feminists aren't going to. They're gonna act like you should be lucky to get
• 2:15:37
  any woman's attention. And the truth is right, women are looking for a
• 2:15:41
  commitment from a man. It's easy for a woman to give her body up.
• 2:15:45
  That's why they say, right, a lock that can be opened by
• 2:15:48
  any key is a shitty lock, and a key that can open many locks
• 2:15:52
  as a master key. I mean it's not I know it sounds like I
• 2:15:56
  don't know, a bit like harsh, but it's true. Men's value comes
• 2:16:01
  from the thing that they do, their ability to provide. But not everyone
• 2:16:05
  deserves that. It has to be people who earn it. You have to
• 2:16:11
  ask women to earn that. Speaking of earning things, she hasn't earned this
• 2:16:18
  construction. So she's actually silencing this woman and her statement. This woman said
• 2:16:24
  women are the gatekeepers of sex, okay, and they're discussing that all right.
• 2:16:28
  And because women are the gatekeepers of sex, women's particular desires are considered
• 2:16:35
  to be inviolent, like you can't question them, you can question men's.
• 2:16:39
  So if a woman a man wants a young woman, a pretty woman,
• 2:16:41
  a woman who isn't fat. He's all kinds of bad things. But if
• 2:16:46
  a woman wants a man who you know is tall, taller than average,
• 2:16:52
  significantly taller than average, fit, and makes a lot of money, we
• 2:16:56
  can't question that they have every right to that. That's what this I think
• 2:17:00
  this woman is getting at, and these other woman Caitlin is completely shutting her
• 2:17:05
  down by misrepresenting what she's sank. No one is saying. No one is
• 2:17:11
  saying that women don't have the right to decide who touches them, just like
• 2:17:16
  we're not saying men don't have the right, except you probably are, because
• 2:17:20
  if men express any desire or to exclude certain types of women there from them
• 2:17:28
  sexually, that's some bad thing, there's some kind of prejudiced monster. But
• 2:17:33
  regardless, that's not the argument. You are distorting the argument so you don't
• 2:17:37
  have to answer to it, okay, which the answer the question is what
• 2:17:43
  are women asking for? Is it absurd? And what does it feel like
• 2:17:48
  to be part of a world in which you are de sexed by the opposite
• 2:17:52
  sex for failing to be in the top five percent of your sex. You're
• 2:18:00
  completely completely invisible that's what she's getting at. This other woman's like, but
• 2:18:03
  but women have the right to consent. Well, that's not an answer,
• 2:18:07
  Yep, that's that is that is constructing a straw man that you then destroy.
• 2:18:15
  That's actually demonizing the question. There should be a new there should be
• 2:18:18
  a new fallacy called demonizing the question. All right, all right, let's
• 2:18:22
  keep let's continue somehow Andrew type suggesting that we need to reolder society so that
• 2:18:26
  women have to like kind of have a certain amount of sex that they need
• 2:18:30
  to give out as men will become angry, deeply dangerous. So no,
• 2:18:33
  I've never heard him say that. I don't know if it's true, but
• 2:18:35
  I've never heard him say that. I don't watch everything he's done, but
• 2:18:39
  I've never heard him say that, So I would say bullshit. Yeah,
• 2:18:43
  that sounds ridiculous. I don't want every any reason I believe this woman at
• 2:18:46
  all. Anyways, they keep going to these bullshit artists, like these haze
• 2:18:52
  artists. Well, how do we solve these problems. Let's go to the
• 2:18:54
  local, the local haze artist. Yep, she just do you have any
• 2:19:00
  snake oil in that in that wagon? Why? Yes, I do.
• 2:19:05
  A lady, this is going to solve all your problems a misogyny, a
• 2:19:09
  rape culture. One sip of this here tonic will ensure that men will fear
• 2:19:15
  you for generations. I said, that's what it is. Have you changed
• 2:19:20
  your view then? Do you actually have you begun to think that those young
• 2:19:24
  boys who spoke to you a couple of years ago and said, it's actually
• 2:19:26
  tougher to be asked than to be a girl. Do you think I write
• 2:19:28
  well, think I enjoyed most is going through it like a kind of like
• 2:19:30
  like you know, a big old mum. I'm going here anythings you're right
• 2:19:31
  to be worried about, And in these I think I give eight reasons where
• 2:19:35
  it is hard to be a boy or a man that a woman now.
• 2:19:37
  But I'm also very strict about going Look, this is what you need to
• 2:19:39
  understand about sex. This is what you need to unerstand about right. This
• 2:19:41
  is what you need to unstand about strangulation. This is what you need to
• 2:19:43
  unstand. I don't know why she said strangulation, Like guys are just like
• 2:19:46
  going around going can I strangle you? Please? Like I don't, I
• 2:19:48
  don't know, I don't know, like I don't, I don't I don't
• 2:19:52
  know. That's a weird she doesn't you know what? I think that Again,
• 2:19:56
  this seems like a self report to me, like, do you know,
• 2:20:01
  do you know Giangomeshi somehow like you guys have mutual friends, Like,
• 2:20:05
  what's going on there? Yeah, what's going on is they did some kind
• 2:20:09
  of survey of women whether or not they've been strangled during sex. Like,
• 2:20:16
  first of all, when you're having sex with like five percent of the male
• 2:20:20
  population, a lot of you are going to be having sex with the same
• 2:20:24
  man who has the same proclivities. That doesn't mean the other ninety five percent
• 2:20:28
  of the population has anything to do with him, or even the other five
• 2:20:31
  percent for that matter, So you might have fund that that's skewing the numbers.
• 2:20:35
  Two. The other thing is when some dude is strangling you because he
• 2:20:41
  thinks that women are into it. Maybe that's something that he's learned from women
• 2:20:46
  like that, women he's picked up like that, or a request that.
• 2:20:52
  So we started to do it just by rote. If it isn't a problem
• 2:20:56
  necessarily unless when you say, hey, I don't like that, he doesn't
• 2:21:01
  stop. M Like, if he's just trying something seeing if you're into it,
• 2:21:09
  just try to, you know, be with the moment, because the
• 2:21:11
  other chicks really liked it. Just tell him, you know, I'm not
• 2:21:13
  into that. If he stops, problem solved, you don't need to have
• 2:21:20
  a survey on it. Okay. Yeah, so interesting how many of women's
• 2:21:24
  problems would be solved if they simply stopped playing like there's some kind of terrified
• 2:21:31
  damsel throughout their entire life and just assert themselves. Yeah, and it's really
• 2:21:37
  unlikely that you are going to be raped as a result of that, even
• 2:21:39
  if you are fucking the top five percent of the weirdos on freaking Tinder who
• 2:21:45
  have sex addiction and just I don't know, man, I think it's I
• 2:21:48
  think it's women that ask for that shit. I think they're the ones that
• 2:21:54
  I honestly think what's happening? No, I do boys. The joy is
• 2:21:58
  the top five percent tender. They know what the average woman is into.
• 2:22:01
  The Shade of Gray's a top seller with women, and they do it,
• 2:22:07
  and they do it. Yeah, but they're basically the modern day court is
• 2:22:11
  on. They're just there to exist to please these women and uh, and
• 2:22:16
  then they find one that's like, oh, I don't know, and she
• 2:22:18
  doesn't have God damn ladyballs to simply say stop. Yep, okay, continuing
• 2:22:24
  on about female fear, So I very much see this is an extension of
• 2:22:28
  my feminism because if you if coming it, yeah, I think this is
• 2:22:33
  an extension of feminism. Help the boys and girls, this is how you
• 2:22:39
  have it harder. But you gotta understand that women are still afraid. That's
• 2:22:43
  why they need to be put first. And we need to make sure that
• 2:22:46
  you still exist within a framework in which you recognize that you are penis monsters
• 2:22:54
  first and foremost. Yep, and keep keep will keep wondering, Oh why
• 2:23:01
  is that? Why is the suicide rate going? What's great now is now
• 2:23:05
  that every girl is like bisexual and fucking around with other women, like the
• 2:23:09
  rate of rate and domestic violence is skyrocketing, which would because if you have
• 2:23:16
  female partners, you're something like nineteen times more likely to get your ass beaten
• 2:23:22
  if you're a woman, then if you have male partners. Okay, So
• 2:23:26
  talking about all this fear, boy, men, women should be afraid of
• 2:23:31
  men because when they're sexual partners, they're so violent. Okay, Well,
• 2:23:35
  if women and this is what we're finding, this is what's happening. This
• 2:23:39
  is what's coming true. As more girls decide that they want to get in
• 2:23:43
  a relationship with a person who doesn't give one flipping fuck about their well being,
• 2:23:50
  and we'll beat their ass if they piss them off, which is another
• 2:23:54
  woman. We're finding that increase in violence and actual assault, And interestingly enough,
• 2:24:01
  it's the increases all in the LGBTQ pe. They look at that increase
• 2:24:09
  and they blame boys again, even though boys aren't even part of it anymore.
• 2:24:13
  All girls fucking each other and beating each other and raping each other.
• 2:24:16
  And this is not even going to be mentioned by her, it's not even
• 2:24:20
  going to be recognized that actually, actually, and this is the way you
• 2:24:26
  should compare things. Okay, when a girl has a relationship with a boy,
• 2:24:31
  she is nineteen times less likely to be physically abused, probably significantly less.
• 2:24:39
  Actually, it is true, she's significantly less likely to be sexually abused.
• 2:24:43
  She's significantly less likely to be murdered, except in the UK. But
• 2:24:48
  feminists made the statistics in the UK, so take that with a grain of
• 2:24:50
  salt. Probably it holds there too. So in every way, a woman
• 2:24:56
  in a relationship with another woman should be more afraid a woman in a relationship
• 2:25:03
  with a man, and yet for some reason, it's men who have to
• 2:25:07
  bear the burden, the guilt and the shame of all of this, of
• 2:25:11
  sexual abuse within a sexual abuse, within a sexual relationship. It's absolutely bullshit.
• 2:25:18
  Yep, girls problems, men, angry men. If us have men,
• 2:25:22
  scared men, confused men, and you can't fix the girls and tea
• 2:25:24
  fix the boys. So I genuinely believe that the next part of feminism is
• 2:25:26
  sharing this resource that Be's invented, which is talking about gender, which we've
• 2:25:30
  used to talk about women, we now need to use to talk about men
• 2:25:31
  and fix them alongside the girls. Why isn't there a man who's you writing
• 2:25:35
  a book that's this? I know, I literally sat there for ten years
• 2:25:39
  absolutely expecting that there would be but that why isn't there a man talking about
• 2:25:43
  these issues? Where is he? Let maybe look underneath the mouse right here?
• 2:25:50
  I don't see a man under the table. Is there a man anywhere
• 2:25:54
  talking about I mean, I mean, like I saw a bunch of misogynists
• 2:25:58
  pretending to care, but we've basically demonized them and threw them in Romanian prisons
• 2:26:03
  and banish them from our countries and all that, But those aren't. I'm
• 2:26:07
  not talking about those men. Those men actually don't have men's best interests in
• 2:26:11
  mind. I'm talking about the men who think the way I think. I
• 2:26:16
  can't find them anywhere. I can't find them. I guess I'm the one
• 2:26:20
  that has to do it. Absolutely insane, absolutely insane. They take away
• 2:26:28
  every resource that men have, every resource. Every men's group is broken up.
• 2:26:33
  Men's rights activists are thrown in in the fucking gutter under the bus,
• 2:26:39
  And then they're like, where are the men's rights advocates? Where are the
• 2:26:41
  men's clubs? Where are the fathers? Where are the big brothers? Where
• 2:26:46
  are the male teachers? What happened to? Why? Yeah? How did
• 2:26:52
  this happen? It's like, it's like and the funny thing is is that
• 2:26:56
  because they can't acknowledge who building the shit pile, their solution to the ship
• 2:27:01
  pile is, well, god, a poor more shit, aren't Yes?
• 2:27:05
  Right? Yeah? I think this more bit more shit. It's more ship
• 2:27:09
  yeah, pa. The only way to get rid of it is put more
• 2:27:13
  shit on it? Yeah? Like literally, this is the lot. Okay,
• 2:27:18
  people, You're never gonna get anywhere listening to grifters like this I don't
• 2:27:22
  know. Are we different than Andrew Tate, like Honey Badger Radio, Are
• 2:27:26
  we somewhat different? I I'm not. I'm not gonna go Daron there because
• 2:27:31
  it's just what's too fucking radioactive for some reason. All I will say is
• 2:27:35
  men are going to that guy for a reason. That's all I'm gonna say.
• 2:27:37
  And you know what, I think that's okay. I think that's okay.
• 2:27:41
  At least they're going away from people like this. Yes, switched bait
• 2:27:48
  and switch, and again she had this moment where she was one hund truthful.
• 2:27:54
  Boys are going to people like Andrew Tate, people like Jordan Peterson,
• 2:27:58
  less Warren Farrell because I think he's very academic. Um, they're going to
• 2:28:03
  these people because they give them a sense of their own value that they give
• 2:28:07
  to the world. That's it. That's the one that's like, this is
• 2:28:11
  the this is the coldly grail. Okay, guys, this is it.
• 2:28:15
  This is what they're they're searching for, that they have a sense of value
• 2:28:18
  in the world, even beyond like recognition of their vulnerabilities in the in the
• 2:28:22
  eight ways that it's harder to be a boy, That they have a sense
• 2:28:26
  of value and you know what, constantly focusing on how men are scanty penis
• 2:28:33
  monsters that is destroying their sense of value. Oh, I don't know what
• 2:28:39
  is her proposal here. And she wants she wants to apply what she calls
• 2:28:48
  the cure for women for girls problems, which I'm sure is also causing harm
• 2:28:52
  to women, and she wants to just use it on men. It's like,
• 2:28:56
  I'll just I'll just flip the batteries upside down and stick it in the
• 2:28:58
  same she and I'm sure it'll work. And the thing is, it doesn't.
• 2:29:03
  It doesn't work. I mean, I don't think that what she's doing
• 2:29:05
  for women works. I think it just puts them in a state of fear
• 2:29:07
  and victimhood. But she's also going to try and do that to men.
• 2:29:11
  But she can't make men victims, not that I would want her to,
• 2:29:13
  because I don't think anybody should feel that way, But instead she's going to
• 2:29:16
  make them into monsters or make them feel like monsters. So, yeah,
• 2:29:20
  abused Quasimoto some more. I guess, well, her solution, the solution
• 2:29:26
  for both girls has been to blame men. Yeah. Boys, Yeah,
• 2:29:31
  that's a solution that she has. And now she's saying, well, I'm
• 2:29:35
  going to give this solution blaming men and boys to boys, and that's going
• 2:29:39
  to solve their problems by recognizing that they are the problem. You know,
• 2:29:46
  that's going to make the big solution for them, don't you see it?
• 2:29:50
  Like because it worked with women and girls. Really I don't know, but
• 2:29:54
  you know, blaming men worked for women and girls. Shouldn't blaming men work
• 2:29:58
  for boys and men? Like, haven't they just blame themselves to get themselves
• 2:30:01
  out of this sense that they have no value? You know that that seems
• 2:30:05
  like it will work really well, right, I mean, if men recognize
• 2:30:09
  that all they are is a burden, surely that will overcome their feelings of
• 2:30:13
  being a burden. Yeah, they said, fucking insanity of this, This
• 2:30:20
  the literal fucking insanity of It's just like brain frying, you know what I
• 2:30:24
  mean. Yeah, it's just like they have nothing to offer. But it
• 2:30:28
  isn't It is infuriating, which is the point. So let's and they also
• 2:30:31
  but what's really infuriating is the moments where they're completely freaking honest, completely honest.
• 2:30:39
  Yeah, so you know they know, yeah, they're being They're they're
• 2:30:43
  not dumb, they're liars like, that's what it is. Always want to
• 2:30:46
  feel like they're valuable. So the way that we do that it was we
• 2:30:50
  do what we did with girls, which was to blame men and boys for
• 2:30:52
  their problems so they don't have to take responsibility bad about them. They blame
• 2:30:58
  other men. They turned boys against other boys. That's what they're doing.
• 2:31:03
  So what we'll do is we'll take those boys who want to feel value and
• 2:31:07
  we'll give them the female solution, which is to blame them, blame boys
• 2:31:11
  and men for their problems, and that will make boys and men feel like
• 2:31:16
  they have value when they recognize that they're their own problem. Yeah, okay,
• 2:31:22
  why the book is pamed towards mums who will want to show chapters to
• 2:31:26
  their teenage doesn't dad's care. It's not smart, don't care. It's just
• 2:31:28
  that that culture of fatherhood, it just like of men talking, just isn't
• 2:31:31
  there, like, you know, the conversation what dads tell me? Where
• 2:31:35
  the dads are? Should we have thought about? You know, why aren't
• 2:31:37
  their dads? Do you know? I bet you know women talking to their
• 2:31:41
  daughters about being proud of their bodies. How would a dad start a conversation
• 2:31:43
  with a teenage boy about you know, his genitals and being proud of them
• 2:31:46
  the way that mums do with their girls. Now, it would just seem
• 2:31:48
  uneven saying, you know, it sounds unthinkable and mad, But it was
• 2:31:50
  equally unthinkable and mad for mothers and daughters in say, nineteen ninety seven.
• 2:31:54
  So it is a cultural thing. You just need to find a new way
• 2:31:56
  of talking about it that makes everybody feel comfortable and they want to it's she's
• 2:32:00
  being really gross, you know, and she's making it sound like like men
• 2:32:05
  and fathers and mothers and daughters and sons, they just they Up until the
• 2:32:13
  nineteen sixties, they had no idea how babies were made. They just kind
• 2:32:16
  of they collapsed together, and you know, it was like it was like
• 2:32:22
  magnets of opposite poles just clinked and there was a there was an explosion of
• 2:32:28
  light and there was a baby. Like we like, we had no idea
• 2:32:31
  how we formed families or relationships. We didn't know what love was. Shakespeare
• 2:32:35
  was making shit up when he wrote poetry about that. Up until now,
• 2:32:41
  when when girls were talking about their vaginas, did we actually figure this out?
• 2:32:45
  And only women had figured out this is so ridiculous. I mean,
• 2:32:52
  m just ridiculous, lady. That sounds really disgusting. Yeah, it sounds
• 2:33:01
  predatory, It sounds grooming, Like why would a mother be talking to her
• 2:33:07
  daughter about being proud of her genitals? Yeah? What the fuck is your
• 2:33:13
  problem? Like, if you're a if you're a girl, is talk justin
• 2:33:20
  therapy for sexually? She probably she should Laura Laura Bates and they should go
• 2:33:28
  have a tea party or something. No, they should go and have be
• 2:33:33
  chemically castrated. Yeah, like this is repulsive, like this, this is
• 2:33:39
  completely inappropriate. You don't can you imagine a man saying this on a radio
• 2:33:45
  program? We need girls talk about their little girly vagina? Is more often
• 2:33:48
  like they'd be hauled off into the wood chipper. You go, that's like,
• 2:33:54
  what see? But this is the thin end edge of the wedge.
• 2:33:58
  She starts the conversation, and then eventually we're we're having men, adult men
• 2:34:03
  talk about how little girls should be proud enough to to to display their volvers,
• 2:34:09
  you know, shit like that. But this is just go away,
• 2:34:15
  This is none of your fricking business. And you sound like a knots Yeah
• 2:34:20
  really no, it's total nonsweryversation. You know where I get worried about progresses,
• 2:34:24
  Whereas it seems a fiber's duty that you need to chieve through in order
• 2:34:28
  to improve your life, to be a good person, changing your life for
• 2:34:30
  the better, changing your idea of boys and girls, making them more comfortable
• 2:34:31
  in their bodies and can them pride and joy should feel like the best offer
• 2:34:35
  in the world. Something you're say in the book, it's something I've often
• 2:34:37
  wanted about. Actually, is you wonder why men don't fantasize about being able
• 2:34:41
  to give birth? Right? Because that is it's an incredible thing? Yeah,
• 2:34:43
  a female megapala? Yeah? Oh wow? Really really, why don't
• 2:34:52
  men fantasize about giving birth? Maybe because they like being fathers, which you're
• 2:34:58
  not letting them do. Maybe that's why. Maybe they fantasize about being a
• 2:35:03
  father, not carrying a baby. They have no idea what that's like.
• 2:35:07
  She's why aren't they wondering about that? I don't know. Maybe because we
• 2:35:11
  don't care. Maybe we're happy for women who are pregnant and that's the end
• 2:35:13
  of it. Maybe we're not constantly looking at what women have and complaining and
• 2:35:20
  getting bitter. What the fuck? Where did this come from? Yeah?
• 2:35:26
  Why wait no, wait until you wait, Wait till until you hear there
• 2:35:31
  their explanation for the men's replacement for carrying babies. Wait till you hear that,
• 2:35:37
  because that's like one of the gems of this that can you guys,
• 2:35:41
  guess what it's gonna be. I'm gonna play this, but apparently it doesn't
• 2:35:43
  feature in male fantasies at all. I looked through all the research. I
• 2:35:46
  asked everyone I knew, I was on social media asking and like there was
• 2:35:50
  just this astonishingly weird silence. And one of the previous books like that is
• 2:35:54
  that weird? Is it weird that men don't want to be pregnant? First
• 2:35:58
  of all, some men be weird. But yeah, no, no,
• 2:36:03
  you've been very transphobic here. Yeah, you're being a bit transphobic embracing myself.
• 2:36:07
  Brun should be a uterus uterous have her all right, Uh, let's
• 2:36:13
  continue put that. I think all the plots of superhero movies are actually mad
• 2:36:18
  appropriation of the female story, because those are all stories about teenage boies who
• 2:36:20
  suddenly their bodies go haywire and they're shooting webs or they can let you know,
• 2:36:24
  they've got this extra strength that they're there to save the world, but
• 2:36:26
  they never get the credit of like Batman, that's mums, like suddenly was
• 2:36:28
  shooting these weights sometimes, Oh, shut up, are you kidding me?
• 2:36:33
  I haven't got the reference. F Oh my god, man, you don't
• 2:36:37
  And then she doesn't have any powers? Normal? Man? Do you do
• 2:36:43
  you do? You do? You know why boys like superhero movies even though
• 2:36:48
  you're trying to make them for women now and nobody's watching them, because they
• 2:36:52
  want to save people. That's why it's they want to protect. They want
• 2:36:56
  the power to protect the innocent. It's the same reason why boys fantasize about
• 2:37:01
  being knights or cops or cowboys. They want to protect the week. Why
• 2:37:11
  does this have to be a metaphor for pregnancy and birth? It's weird.
• 2:37:16
  Why be a metaphor for puberty because you know what happens at puberty? Boys
• 2:37:24
  They get stronger. No, boys don't change, only girls change. Oh
• 2:37:31
  what a load of hooke them? Like, why is it that these You
• 2:37:35
  know, you're right, the world needs to recognize that women are coombers too,
• 2:37:43
  so we stop listening to them. Because this woman, she talks like
• 2:37:48
  she's about to slide off her chair like we are just being invited into her
• 2:37:54
  fucked up fantasy world where little girls need to be taught be proud of their
• 2:38:00
  vulvas. What the fuck did you say? Holcom boys, Patty think like
• 2:38:09
  that? All right, A little bit more body milk and we've got these
• 2:38:24
  superpowers and strengths. We give birth, but we never get any credit for
• 2:38:26
  saving the world. And that's being before having kids. I never fantasized about
• 2:38:30
  giving birth or breast feeding one of those things. Did you am? I
• 2:38:31
  just am? I just different to an outlie? Really? Oh no,
• 2:38:37
  you're not. You're normal. A woman who obsesses over her normal body functions
• 2:38:41
  is going back to the whole anti marriage we need to we need too being
• 2:38:46
  a woman and getting pregnant. Sometimes we need to have more suspicion of women's
• 2:38:52
  sexuality. Yeah, women really need to get slapped down when they become an
• 2:38:58
  appropose. This is like the Three Musketeers of Kumar Dum Kumar nonsery women.
• 2:39:03
  Well, no, no, no, no, the one I guess the
• 2:39:07
  rational ball is being thrown between the two. That's the d'Artagnan. But I
• 2:39:11
  don't know. She's not pushing back that hard. She's she's the Aramis,
• 2:39:16
  you know, Athos, Porthos and Aramis. I know, was that Aramis
• 2:39:22
  was the religious one. Yeah, anyway, a little bit left almost done
• 2:39:28
  here, guys. You know my theory, for what it's worth is this
• 2:39:30
  is going to sound absolutely crazy, is that I think sport was invented because
• 2:39:33
  men didn't give both. So in the recent foundano back cricket, for example,
• 2:39:37
  which has kept some let's be honest, middle aged, middle class chaps
• 2:39:39
  talking for the last seven days, they have talked of nothing else all over
• 2:39:43
  the times. If they had, I don't know, if they had the
• 2:39:45
  megapower to give birth, would they be that bothered about a dodgy a dodgy
• 2:39:48
  out? So that's the theory. So men invented sports because they were jealous
• 2:39:56
  of women's ability to get pregnant. Okay, So don't you feel comfortable the
• 2:40:01
  level of contempt for ignorance they're so happy with themselves. Yeah, and smugness,
• 2:40:11
  Like don't you feel like these are women who have your best interests in
• 2:40:15
  mind? Yeah? Yeah. Like the other thing, like she would never
• 2:40:20
  think that maybe maybe a woman has to earn the right to have a man
• 2:40:26
  talk to him or to her about his experience that maybe she should have to
• 2:40:31
  earn his trust, you know, talking about consent and entitlement. Lady.
• 2:40:37
  Maybe men don't talk about these things because you haven't earned their trust. So
• 2:40:43
  then if men's sports is birth and is women's sports, uh like stillborn?
• 2:40:54
  Like is it? Is it a miscarriage? Sorry, I'm I'm sorry it's
• 2:41:00
  dark. But they asked for it, all right, A little bit left?
• 2:41:07
  Ye. When I gave birth and I was a mother, I was
• 2:41:09
  just like, this is a woman's war. You know, if you are
• 2:41:11
  risking your life, he'd just go. You think he's gonna be over by
• 2:41:13
  Christmas. It's not nice to see you. Oh right, war is another
• 2:41:18
  thing men Only men do that. That's what That's a man's thing. All
• 2:41:22
  right, I'm going back to the screen. Jojo, what the hell?
• 2:41:26
  What is my dog doing? He's just like, okay, there he is.
• 2:41:31
  Um that's the end of the video, Ailes. I do have some
• 2:41:33
  super chows. I don't know if you want to give any final thoughts on
• 2:41:37
  the on this, I have never seen people so unqualified to talk on a
• 2:41:48
  subject. Yeah, child with a toy wrench set is more qualified to be
• 2:41:58
  a mechanic than these women are to talk on the subject of men. Just
• 2:42:03
  think about that, because a child knows he has something to learn and has
• 2:42:09
  enthusiasm and respect for the subject. This is run nor like and but you
• 2:42:18
  know what the other thing is is that So this is this is your offering,
• 2:42:22
  is it? Ladies? This is what you're going to offer men in
• 2:42:26
  terms of this rest you know, like a restaurant analogy this, Kay,
• 2:42:31
  don't surprize that they aren't fucking interested. Well, I think that like whatever
• 2:42:39
  men are doing that's pissing these women off, keep doing it, That's what
• 2:42:41
  I say. I mean, you'll find you'll find your you know, if
• 2:42:46
  you're you know, following like I don't know some of these other like dating
• 2:42:48
  coach guys or whatever. I don't care, go for it. Just don't
• 2:42:52
  go here. Stay as far away from this shit as possible, and maybe
• 2:42:56
  you'll find your way. You're you're on your own jour ernie. I'm not
• 2:43:00
  going to tell you what you should do, who you should listen to,
• 2:43:01
  who you shouldn't listen to, But I would ask and advise that you stay
• 2:43:07
  away from feminists and feminism no matter what form it is, because it always
• 2:43:11
  it always leads to this, so okay, well, simply say that stated
• 2:43:18
  she said, what the issue is, ye, men and boys feel like
• 2:43:22
  they have no value. Do you really think these women are where that's going
• 2:43:30
  to be solved? No, no, yep they are. They are overweening
• 2:43:41
  chauvinists who can't even allow men their own minds. Yep, all right,
• 2:43:52
  so I guess oh I got some super childs. I should beat them.
• 2:43:56
  We can and this here so uh egreed to Charles against this five bucks and
• 2:44:01
  says, I think what she calls misogynistic porn is porn that has men and
• 2:44:05
  women having heterosexual sex. Gay and lesbian porn would be non misogynistic kind Yeah,
• 2:44:13
  that's probably right. Eric Anderson approves, Anonymous, gives us five dollars,
• 2:44:18
  and says, by misogynistic porn, I think she's talking about the extreme
• 2:44:22
  C and C consent non consent type of porn like the gang bangs Princess Donna
• 2:44:28
  does. I don't know who that is, and thank god I don't.
• 2:44:31
  It's probably one of her kinks. I know that type of porn is also
• 2:44:35
  very popular with women. Joe Rogan had a guest that admitted that that's the
• 2:44:37
  only type of porn that she gets that gets her off. She also identified
• 2:44:41
  as a feminist and said she hates that she loves it. She hates that
• 2:44:45
  she loves it. A lot of feminists are kind of thinky perverts. Yes,
• 2:44:50
  so yeah, they're all kums. Yeah, there's a lot of umer
• 2:44:54
  action. The problem is that men would never get away was turning their bank
• 2:45:00
  bank into an ideological like a political position, because we have suspicion of men's
• 2:45:05
  sexuality. No, men come up with this ship and we're like, is
• 2:45:09
  that is that a political position? Or are you playing a pocket pool?
• 2:45:16
  Like this is what This is the question we should be asking these women.
• 2:45:18
  Is this a political position, Caitlin? Or is this you with your hand
• 2:45:24
  and down your pants? But we don't because we don't have that kind of
• 2:45:28
  suspicion of women. So we get these movements that are basically women just politicizing
• 2:45:35
  their porn and the things that they like, and because they apparently don't have
• 2:45:43
  to take responsibility for what they like, they blame it on men. Oh
• 2:45:48
  gosh, man, why do they create this misogynous porn that's so delicious and
• 2:45:52
  titillating? Happin too? I guess this is TV tropes, they have this
• 2:45:58
  thing that's, um, you know, sex is a sin, and I'm
• 2:46:03
  horny. Basically, these whip like that, Yep, you know sex is
• 2:46:07
  patriarchy, but I'm so horny, and then they play men for the whole
• 2:46:13
  thing because that's the only thing they know. Feel this way. Yes,
• 2:46:18
  uh okay. Playing Dane gives us five dollars and says that standards are not
• 2:46:22
  just insane but also sexist, specifically among bisexual women. They won't hold other
• 2:46:28
  women, including trans women and trans men, to the same standards they hold
• 2:46:31
  men to, specifically men without gender dysphoria. If you're just a regular dude,
• 2:46:35
  you're the scum of the earth. Yes, somebody should stick up for
• 2:46:41
  the regular dudes. I'm just saying that's most dudes. I wonder if it
• 2:46:43
  would. I wonder if anyone is doing that, sticking out the regular wonder.
• 2:46:48
  I wonder you can stick up for for the irregular dudes and the regular
• 2:46:54
  dudes at the same time. I know it's crazy, but you can't do
• 2:46:56
  it. Thank you. Playing Dane Anonymous gives us five dollars and says,
• 2:47:01
  how about we start by not demonizing foreskin and start demonizing male general mutilation.
• 2:47:07
  I think we should be proud of our foreskin. I'm actually on her side
• 2:47:11
  for this, but we need it for boys. I'm proud of my foreskin.
• 2:47:13
  I'm not gonna put it on display, but you're not gonna shame me
• 2:47:16
  for being intact. I don't you know. Just I don't think we need
• 2:47:22
  to be proud of it. I mean, I'm also uncust, but but
• 2:47:26
  like, yeah, you just don't, Joe, don't be ashamed. That's
• 2:47:30
  not the same thing. I think that being proud is how you get into
• 2:47:33
  this. You can get into your own head about like how important it is
• 2:47:37
  that you have this thing that you were supposed to have to begin with.
• 2:47:41
  And if you don't have it, I'm really sorry, but hopefully you'll make
• 2:47:43
  the most of it because it's kind of like out of your hands now.
• 2:47:46
  I know that there's lots of procedures that can restore it and all that,
• 2:47:52
  and if you want to go that route, and you know, God bless
• 2:47:54
  you. I hope you get there. But I don't know. I know
• 2:47:58
  it's I would say that mothers can't make this decision for their sons. No,
• 2:48:07
  yeah, well yeah, I don't think that. Um, only the
• 2:48:11
  man should do it, but I and but they should when they are a
• 2:48:13
  man. And also, um, you should take that into careful consideration because
• 2:48:18
  I've heard some MRAs that advocate cutting the skin because they think because women like
• 2:48:24
  it better. And I'm sorry, but that's the worst reason to do that.
• 2:48:30
  Okay. You don't have to be proud or shameful, right, you
• 2:48:33
  don't have to pride or shame right, that's what I That's what I say.
• 2:48:39
  Okay, Just and also not be non neutral about ridiculous, disturbing crap
• 2:48:48
  like cutting parts of your child's genitals off at birth. That's just dumb.
• 2:48:54
  It's just sadistic, really, okay, all right, last super child Clay
• 2:49:00
  Dane for twelve Bucks says, I've read that trans people, both men and
• 2:49:03
  women, fantasize about getting pregnant, and this doesn't surprise me given what I
• 2:49:09
  know about how masson and feminine hormones affect the mind during the stages of development.
• 2:49:15
  Yeah, I mean, I've seen it. I don't know how common
• 2:49:16
  it is, but I mean, hey, have whatever whatever floats your boat,
• 2:49:20
  buddy, but just make sure that you know it's coming from you and
• 2:49:24
  not all the chemicals racing around in your head. So thank you for all
• 2:49:28
  the super childs. We had a lot this time, a lot of a
• 2:49:31
  lot of support from the from the patrons. I think there's some new people
• 2:49:35
  here. I wonder how many of you guys came here because I had Eric
• 2:49:37
  July on last Friday. If you if you are because of that, then
• 2:49:43
  first of all, thanks for joining us here in our little dark corner of
• 2:49:46
  the internet and let us know in the comments. So all right, Alison,
• 2:49:50
  do you want to say any final thoughts or should we do? We
• 2:49:54
  have any chats? I've read everything all dumb, that big as C.
• 2:50:01
  S. Lewis thing. I like I said, these people are utterly incompetent
• 2:50:05
  to talk on the topic that they are opining about. They're so incompetent they
• 2:50:09
  don't realize their own damn incompetent, and they're replacing a desire to actually learn
• 2:50:15
  with this kind of contemptuous attitude of superiority, which makes them even less competent
• 2:50:22
  to talk on this subject. That is my final word. You fail.
• 2:50:28
  You are the weakest link. Goodbye. Now how it goes, that'll show
• 2:50:35
  you are the leakest wink. Goodbye. She looked like she looked a little
• 2:50:39
  bit like EDNA Mode. All right, so um huh, I like,
• 2:50:50
  oh I liked DNA Mode. She was voiced by one of the writers,
• 2:50:52
  guy, a man they couldn't find the right person of Visually, I know
• 2:50:56
  who she was based on. It was like this really small womantress that looked
• 2:51:01
  just like that. I can't remember her name, but I know you guys
• 2:51:03
  know who I'm talking about. She was actually in that movie that we watched
• 2:51:07
  that Janice Fimingo recommended us to. Do you remember, Bostonians, Do you
• 2:51:13
  remember that? You remember that we watched that movie and then there was that
• 2:51:16
  woman that was a doctor, a small woman. Anyway, Ednamode is based
• 2:51:22
  on her visually. Okay, anyway, just a little fun fun factory,
• 2:51:26
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