Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #66: Gill1918 presents David Neville "QnA Developing Sprinters" Part 2 | Glazier Clinics
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- 0:00Hey gang, exciting news here today is Part 2 of our Gil 1918
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- 0:34Georgia Southern University. Welcome to the Gill 1918
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- 1:02topic. Well, coach, thank you for a
- 1:05great session and sharing that knowledge with us.
- 1:08Again, coaches, if you have any questions, just type them into
- 1:11that Q&A box down there and I can address them to coach.
- 1:18Looks like the first one was, can you go back to your last
- 1:21please? I'm assuming they meant like
- 1:24last slide maybe? Last slide, I'm assuming we're
- 1:30talking about the one with with the Wickeds.
- 1:38Yes, the one with. The All right, let me go back
- 1:44there like that. I don't know if you're wanting
- 1:54to see this video or not, but, and I'll kind of guide it here.
- 2:00So it's going slow MO. She's got her 30 meters here, 20
- 2:04meters, excuse me, running. And then right at the 20m mark,
- 2:08we put our first. We use the discs here as running
- 2:15through you. There are certain spacings that
- 2:18you need to use when we're talking about wickets.
- 2:22And so we have, we have at times played with the spacings
- 2:28depending on who the athlete is, what their ability is, what
- 2:32their power output is, because it's all based off of strive
- 2:35length, OK. And so when you're working with
- 2:38Wickeds, you want to make sure that you're not having your
- 2:41athletes reach because that's how you get hurt.
- 2:46And so you want to make sure that they the distance of the
- 2:48space is far enough to make sure that they're keeping their
- 2:52stride open, but close enough to make sure that they're getting
- 2:54your foot down on the ground, putting their foot on the ground
- 2:58so that they can produce force to propel them on that next
- 3:02step. It looks like the next question
- 3:09is can you give examples of of a speed endurance workout?
- 3:14Examples of a speed endurance workout.
- 3:16OK, so an example of a speed endurance workout would be if
- 3:25I'll say they're short speed endurance and they're long speed
- 3:32endurance. So an example of a speed
- 3:35endurance workout that I've done with my 100 meter runners is
- 3:40during the indoor season. I'll go 60.
- 3:44No, I'll, I'll for 100 meters. Let's just go 100 meters.
- 3:49During the outdoor season, we'll go 608110.
- 3:53So 60 meters, 80 meters, 110 meters.
- 3:57I'll do two to three sets of that if they can make it that
- 4:00far. And what I'll do is I go 6
- 4:03minutes recovery in between each run.
- 4:06Now mind you, when you're doing speed, speed means it's 100%.
- 4:10It's all out. There's no such thing as sub,
- 4:14sub maximum speed work. OK, so if you're wanting your
- 4:19athletes to run one 50s and you're wanting them to get
- 4:22speeding because 1-4 times or five times, one 50s are also
- 4:26speed endurance. That's long speed endurance,
- 4:29right? But saying that you're going to
- 4:31have your athletes run 62 hundreds and you put a pace on
- 4:39it, like let's say for a high school guy, 30 seconds, that's
- 4:46not speed endurance work, That's just temple work.
- 4:48All right, So speed is you're running it as fast as you
- 4:53possibly can. So if I'm running 60s, well,
- 4:56I'll say speed is anything that's 90% or faster, all right,
- 4:59So 90% or faster. So if your athlete is a is a,
- 5:06you know, 10 second, that's that's just use a round Number,
- 5:11a pin flat 100m runner. Well, then they they need to be
- 5:17running each of these runs at 11 second, probably 11-5 pace.
- 5:25All right. If you're actually trying to get
- 5:27the speed work in that you say you're trying to get, hopefully
- 5:33that answers your question. All righty coach, your next
- 5:36question is how will a sprinter weight room workout differ from
- 5:40a football in early season? Yeah.
- 5:44So we're not trying to get big. There's there's no desire to get
- 5:50big and put on a whole lot of muscle.
- 5:52We want to be strong and explosive.
- 5:54So think about it as how quickly can I move this weight without
- 6:02getting bigger? That's the, without getting,
- 6:06obviously you're going, there's going to be some mass that will
- 6:09come about. But my, my desire is never to
- 6:14take an athlete who is a sprinter and make them bigger
- 6:18than they already are. It's going to happen, but I'm
- 6:24not trying to get in the way or stop another player or another
- 6:29person. My objective is to get from A to
- 6:32B as fast as I possibly can. And if I weigh more, because I
- 6:36put on a whole lot of weight, that completely defeats the
- 6:40purpose. So the difference is if I'm
- 6:42doing if, especially when I get to certain points in the season,
- 6:49I'm trying to move. I'm and I'm doing cleans.
- 6:51I'm trying to move out of weight quick and fast and get it to the
- 6:55point, the point where I can move this weight fast without
- 6:59getting any bigger. So if I can do, if I can walk in
- 7:03the weight room and, and knock out three sets of three cleans
- 7:08and I'm in season power cleans and I'm in season and I can take
- 7:12go out there and knock out, you know, them at 225 lbs and I
- 7:18weigh 165. I'd be much happier than that.
- 7:27Then going in there trying to knock out six, eight cleans for
- 7:35three or four sets and I'm 220 something pounds.
- 7:38Like it's just not going to it. It it that the weight doesn't
- 7:42the weight of my body is the thing that I'm trying to keep
- 7:46the lowest. So for me as a sprinter I ran at
- 7:50my My competition weight was 161 lbs.
- 7:55As a grown man 161 lbs. My favorite lift to do was power
- 8:02cleans. I thoroughly enjoy power cleans
- 8:05and I I could probably easily clean 275 for multiple reps, but
- 8:18I never had the desire to get bigger.
- 8:20I just wanted to stay where I was, be as strong and as fast
- 8:25with the movements as I possibly could, but not put on any more
- 8:28weight. Coach, your next question is how
- 8:34many times per week are you using sleds?
- 8:38It depends on what part of the season I'm in during the fall
- 8:41and and depending on what cycle of training I'm in.
- 8:45So when I train sprinters, well, when I train athletes, I train
- 8:49in either four or six week cycles.
- 8:52So in four week cycle, I may be focusing on a speed and power
- 8:56cycle. I'm probably going to do some
- 8:58sled work twice a week. So it it truly depends.
- 9:03Now the next cycle that I'm in may be more of a specific
- 9:07endurance cycle where I'm specifically working on some
- 9:11certain keys for for sprinting or for certain races and I may
- 9:17hit the sleds once during that week.
- 9:20There have been weeks where I did not do any sleds.
- 9:22So it truly depends on what cycle of training that athlete
- 9:26is in. Don't just put people in sleds
- 9:28just to be putting people in sleds.
- 9:30Training philosophy and understanding why you're doing
- 9:33what you're doing is even more important than having all these
- 9:39tools and having all these wickets and these training
- 9:41things that I talked about with Med balls and circuits and all
- 9:43that kind of stuff. It is very, very important to
- 9:46make sure that you, you know that you understand that portion
- 9:50of, of the training. And I've got see if I can pull
- 9:53it up here. I've got see if I can share this
- 9:58with you all. There is a circuit that I use or
- 10:05a circuit sheet that I use and you all can see, hopefully you
- 10:08all can see this. And so I have Med ball circuits.
- 10:12I have 4 circuits, glute circuits, body weight circuits.
- 10:16If you don't have a weight room, you can do body weight circuits
- 10:18as well with your athletes. But these are some of the the
- 10:21different things that I tend to do with my athletes as you are,
- 10:24are seeing and looking at some of these things that they go
- 10:29with certain workouts in certain times.
- 10:32Yeah, of course you can do that all, you know, 2-3 times a week.
- 10:36You can do core, you can do Med ball circuits.
- 10:38I do Med ball pretty pretty much two times a week depending on
- 10:41what I'm working on in the in that point of the season as
- 10:43well. So.
- 10:51All righty, coach, your next question is, can you explain
- 10:54some differences between track and field weight room workouts,
- 10:58first football workouts, I guess that's kind of a similar
- 11:00question to the one you just answered.
- 11:03Next question is what are examples of technical runs?
- 11:08What are examples of technical runs?
- 11:09So a technical run could be something that is I typically
- 11:17use them for more I guess kind of recovery type of days.
- 11:22So one of my athletes, I may have us do two sets of 10 down
- 11:32and back runs and by that I mean 100m run.
- 11:35So I'll have a specifically we are working on making sure we're
- 11:38running with good technique. And that's what I mean by
- 11:41technical run, like making sure that our hips are tall, making
- 11:45sure that we are swinging our arms properly, that arms aren't
- 11:48going across right, that our bodies aren't twisting like
- 11:52those things are, are not going to help you run faster.
- 11:55When you run all out of whack, the heads are back right at the
- 11:58legs, at the heels are coming up to to the butt.
- 12:03When you're doing a technical run, you're not trying.
- 12:05The athlete is not trying to technically run correct.
- 12:08It's all about putting their bodies in the best position, the
- 12:11optimum position to put force on the ground properly.
- 12:15These runs, technical runs, I never do technical runs at full
- 12:19speed. They are, they're probably 75 to
- 12:2280% when we're talking about pace.
- 12:25So we're not trying to run them fast, we're trying to run them
- 12:27technically correct. So it could be any distance.
- 12:30You could say we're just going to do them over 50 meters and
- 12:34you could say we're going to do, you know, we're going to build,
- 12:37you know, go from a jog for 50 meters.
- 12:40And then once I get the 50 meters, I want you to want great
- 12:43technique for the next 50 meters.
- 12:45And then you shut it down and you have them walk back all the
- 12:46way back 100 meters. You can say, hey, we're going to
- 12:48do 10 of those and this is what we're going to do is kind of a
- 12:51recovery day, keeps them moving. It's a shake out, but it also
- 12:55helps emphasize and focus on good technique.
- 13:02Your next question is looks like they're wanting a little bit
- 13:05more explanation on the detail of your Med ball circuit
- 13:09workouts. Yeah.
- 13:11So let me go back to go back to that sheet here.
- 13:19So for Med ball, Med ball workouts, we use what's called,
- 13:25we have certain things, they're called multi throws or multi
- 13:27jumps. And so these are just to work on
- 13:29some somebody, some muscles and body parts that your body may
- 13:34not get on the normal to make sure that we're very, very
- 13:37explosive. And so like I said, spring is
- 13:39all about being explosive. And so that's why we do these
- 13:41Med ball circuits. Circuit A here.
- 13:44Let me see if I can blow this up just a little bit.
- 13:46Circuit A, this is just very basic overhead backwards throws,
- 13:51right? You've got your Med ball and
- 13:53you're just literally you're launching it behind your head
- 13:55overhead. I typically partner all my
- 13:57athletes up together. If it's one person, you can put
- 14:00them up against the wall, they can throw the Med ball up
- 14:02against the wall, right? You do 10 of those ankling with
- 14:05the overhead. So we, we hold the ball above
- 14:08our head and what we're doing with this doing is making us
- 14:11very, very tall and we're ankling.
- 14:13So ankling is basically it's like a cycling motion, striking
- 14:19the ground on the ball of your feet, just like you should
- 14:22always be doing, but you're cycling around your ankle as
- 14:27you're running. So we do that for 20 meters
- 14:29down, 20 meters back, underhand, forward is literally what it
- 14:32says. You take the Med ball between
- 14:34your legs and you throw it underhand.
- 14:37We do those with a jump throw forward, right overhead slams,
- 14:42you slam the ball down straight on the ground, one jump, chest
- 14:47pass. You have the Med ball here, you
- 14:49take a jump forward and then you chest pass it as hard as you can
- 14:52afford. And then we do some over under
- 14:55hurdles. That's just work for some hip
- 14:56ability. That's circuit A.
- 14:57So that gives you an example. All of those Med ball circuits.
- 15:01Literally it's just what what it says on the paper, whether it's
- 15:04underhand or overhand or you do it with the forward hop.
- 15:07So you may do a forward hop 1st and then throw the ball.
- 15:11All right, So you see some of that on the second one chest
- 15:15pass or if it's a a throw for Max, like you're doing it
- 15:18underhand to the sky as high as you possibly can, things like
- 15:22that. Circuit D is a mixture.
- 15:25I have some netball stuff and then I do somebody weight stuff.
- 15:28So I do some planking jacks, I do toe touches.
- 15:31So I kind of worked in some core with that.
- 15:34And so my athletes, they all have this sheet and I and I say,
- 15:37hey, today we're doing, you know, Med ball circuit E and
- 15:42they, they know. All right, let's get to work.
- 15:49Your next question is so when setting your times for your
- 15:53tempo or speed endurance, do you set your rest times and time
- 15:57runs by your fastest athlete? No times that I shouldn't say
- 16:07that I have. Like I said, coaching track and
- 16:12field is a science. So there are certain rests that
- 16:17you should always have rest periods or rest time that you
- 16:21should always have based on what you're trying to accomplish.
- 16:24So if I'm doing speed endurance work, my rest is supposed to be,
- 16:30I believe it's like 5 between 5:00 and 7:00 minutes.
- 16:32If I'm doing pure speed work, I need to make sure that I have
- 16:36even longer rest if I'm doing if I'm doing extensive tempo work.
- 16:43So say I'm having my athletes run, say they have 5, three
- 16:49hundreds long Springer. Say we got 5, three hundreds and
- 16:52we're trying to build some some strength and stamina.
- 16:54This is an extensive workout. I'm probably going to have those
- 16:58athletes run, say if say, if it's guys say I want to run 45
- 17:05seconds, but it's just 15 seconds per 100 meters.
- 17:08I'm probably going to then give them 3 minutes recovery because
- 17:16it's based off of the, the distance and what I'm trying to
- 17:21what the actual workout is. And it also depends on the
- 17:24number of the runs I'm doing now, the time that they run, the
- 17:28time is going to be based off of the individual athlete.
- 17:32I, even though there's a, a method and a plan that I have
- 17:36for how I train my athletes, I still train my athletes on an
- 17:39individual basis. You have to, everybody's not the
- 17:42same. Everyone's not built the same.
- 17:43Everyone can't do the same thing.
- 17:45So it's important to make sure that you take those athletes and
- 17:47hey, you may have a better athlete and you say, hey, I want
- 17:50you to run this pace and I want you to run that pace.
- 17:54The rest is the same regardless of who they are, but the times
- 17:57may be different. It's like we got.
- 18:03Two more questions here for you. During the outdoor season, do
- 18:08your 400 meter runners run the Open 400 in every meet or do you
- 18:12limit the number of Open 4 hundreds leading up to the
- 18:15championship meets? They do not run the 400 at every
- 18:20every race, regardless of what the event is or who the athlete
- 18:24is. I don't have any of my athletes
- 18:26run every single, you know, their, their primary event every
- 18:30race. Now, I don't, I guess for
- 18:34different people it would differ based on what their schedule is.
- 18:39But so give an example. I may be in a speed cycle of
- 18:43training even though we have a meet.
- 18:46If I'm a speed cycle of training with my 400m runner, I'm
- 18:49probably not going to run them in the 400 that weekend.
- 18:52I would probably run them in the 100 and the 200 or on the four
- 18:58by one and the 200 because I'm focusing on speed that weekend
- 19:02and there's sometimes I don't have them run at all.
- 19:04I may say, hey, you're not reaching this weekend.
- 19:07It all depends on the athlete. There are some athletes that
- 19:11need to run a little bit more so they can get, you know, get used
- 19:15to it or they're just trying to figure the race out.
- 19:18They may be younger, that's OK. But when I'm talking about kind
- 19:22of kind of my seasons athletes that know what they're doing,
- 19:26there's no need to run them every single weekend.
- 19:29It's just not. It's not going to be that
- 19:32helpful in my opinion. All righty.
- 19:39And next question is how many times a week and distances?
- 19:44Do you work or? How many times a week and
- 19:47distances do you work out with the sled and wickets?
- 19:51I use wickets every single week. Sometimes I'll use wickets as
- 19:55just part of our warm up just to make sure that the athletes are
- 19:57locked into what they need to do.
- 20:00From a technical standpoint, because it's all about
- 20:03technique, I'm big, big, big when it comes to technique.
- 20:06Technique also helps prevent injury.
- 20:08So if you have athletes that are having issues, whether it's
- 20:11hamstring and probably overreaching, if they're having
- 20:13quad issues, whatever it may be, ankle or feet, they may be
- 20:18placing their feet too far. That may be braking, producing
- 20:22braking forces. So if this is the ground, if
- 20:26their feet are going into the ground toe first, they're
- 20:29breaking, which is going to cause a lot of other issues on
- 20:32up the leg. So we do a lot, lot of wicked
- 20:35stuff in the fall. I do wickets in the morning
- 20:37before class, I do wickets in the afternoon.
- 20:41So when we when we come back to do our afternoon practice in the
- 20:45spring, we don't do anything in the morning.
- 20:47And I and I'll typically will have wickets at least twice a
- 20:51week. Sleds.
- 20:53Like I said, it depends on what the cycle is.
- 20:55So I I've done sleds and wickets at the same practice, it just
- 20:59varies on what we are working on during that training cycle.
- 21:06Last question is after the sled and wickets, do you have your
- 21:09athletes do the same distance and quantity freely at 90% or
- 21:12faster? It's individual once again, it's
- 21:17individual. Some athletes or bodies, you
- 21:19know, you as you learn your athletes, you know they can
- 21:21handle it or they can't handle it.
- 21:23So when I'm talking about sleds, say I may have a workout where
- 21:28we're going to do 30 meters, 30 meters sled pool and then we'll
- 21:32go and we'll do a 30 meter Sprint right after that.
- 21:37So I'm going to say, hey, basically we're going to pull
- 21:39that bad boy. I want you to take it off and I
- 21:42want you to Sprint back the other way for 30 meters so that
- 21:45they feel the difference is obviously they're trying to move
- 21:47that force and now they're free flowing, they can move and
- 21:49hopefully be able to create the same pushing forces that they
- 21:53were down the track now without the sled.
- 21:56And so if I have a, a workout this set and it's, you know, it
- 22:02could be 4 * 30m slip pool, 30 meter Sprint and then we're
- 22:07going to go and do something else and maybe a little longer
- 22:09or me say, hey, you know, we're going to go around 2:50 after
- 22:11that all out. That's what everybody's going to
- 22:14do that day. Don't matter who they are.
- 22:17But if their body is jacking up or they're dealing with some
- 22:21other things, I may offer that. I may say, hey, I only want you
- 22:24to do 2 of these sled pools or I want you to do all the sled
- 22:27pools and the 250 or I may, you know, cut out the 250.
- 22:33It depends on who it is and what they need.
- 22:38Well then, looks like we just had one more come in.
- 22:41What's the total of amount of meters your athletes run on a
- 22:44speed day or speed dumps day? Off the top of my head for a
- 22:53short sprinter, probably somewhere between on a speed
- 23:03day, 5500 to 900 meters, probably probably between 507
- 23:11hundred meters total. Like I said, I have, I have
- 23:16certain charts that I go to and I try to keep, I try to keep the
- 23:22math within the charts, right. So if I have my athletes and
- 23:25we're running, like I had mentioned, I have a 61608110
- 23:31meter workout, then what I'll do is I'll run the 60.
- 23:35I'll, I'll plug in and all right, well, if I'm going to do
- 23:372 sets of that, you know, what's this going to add up to?
- 23:39And I'll make sure it stays within the chart of what it says
- 23:43that I should from the science of for a speed day or speed
- 23:48endurance workout, This is this is where what we're looking at.
- 23:52So when it comes to speed endurance, obviously you can go
- 23:56a little bit longer with what you're trying to do and that's
- 23:59probably somewhere between 700 and 900 or 711 hundred meters.
- 24:10Hey gang, Mike Cunningham here. Hey, I hope you enjoyed this
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