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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 24 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jack Bars, Did you go Jack Wars? Jack Buars, Bran
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Speaker 1: Sex steps to John. Actually, I'm so set. Jaguars drawing
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Speaker 1: a time starts right now. Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time.
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Speaker 1: Our normal Tuesday morning. The look looks a little bit
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Speaker 1: different this week, thanks the coronavirus. We all three are
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Speaker 1: working from home. It's been a little difficult. We've had
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Speaker 1: to get creative. Thank goodness for technology boys. How we feeling.
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Speaker 1: How's work going? We're still getting it done well. We're
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Speaker 1: wondering since we're both homeowners and our to do lists
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Speaker 1: are incredibly long, what is someone who rents do? I mean,
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Speaker 1: what point? It's not like you have to paint or
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Speaker 1: through the yard or clean the garage. What have you
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Speaker 1: been doing? I've watched a lot of Netflix. I've cleaned
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Speaker 1: my home. As you can see, it looks immaculate. I've
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Speaker 1: tried to cook a few new meals. It hasn't gone
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Speaker 1: too well. But by the end of this I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be a chef. Jechlin, Yep, coming at you live, John,
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Speaker 1: How have you been? Oh? Great? I mean it's uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. When I was with the newspaper,
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Speaker 1: working from home was a very common. Yeah, you sort
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Speaker 1: of do that. You're on your own a little bit,
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Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of a flashback to you know,
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Speaker 1: two decades ago when I did this quite a bit.
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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't want an these circumstances. Would rather be
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Speaker 1: there with you guys. Absolutely, we'll get there, hopefully soon.
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Speaker 1: Let's try to create some normal see what the show
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Speaker 1: as we get into Big Things. Big Thing one, the
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Speaker 1: new normal. This is the new normal for the foreseeable future.
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Speaker 1: The coronavirus has heavily impacted our work and the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: work coaches are skyping meetings just like we're skyping. The show.
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Speaker 1: Scouts are off the road. Recruiting dates are getting pushed back,
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Speaker 1: along with many other dates. We shouldn't expect this to
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Speaker 1: get better anytime soon, a sense of normalcy anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: As of right now, Skype is the new normal. Big
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Speaker 1: thing to the new guys. Jaguars and confirmed signing two
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Speaker 1: new free agents, linebacker Joe Schobert and defensive lineman Ronney Gunter,
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Speaker 1: adding death to defensive line as well as the defense
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Speaker 1: and filling some holes. Fradency is not over, so we
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Speaker 1: can expect maybe a few more moves which leads us
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Speaker 1: into Big Thing three new quarterback. Question Mark reported that
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Speaker 1: Nichols been traded to the Bears, which leads us Garter
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Speaker 1: Minshew as the starting quarterback. But Cooky see the Jags
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Speaker 1: make moves and free agency stilly of Jameis Winston, cam
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Speaker 1: Newton has requested a trade from the Panthers. So many
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Speaker 1: questions still, the guys, let's go all the way back
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Speaker 1: up to Big Thing one. This coronavirus, it is not
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Speaker 1: only impacting us, it's impacting basically everyone in this country
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Speaker 1: in some way. But for football, especially with being such
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Speaker 1: a game of routine. We've been talking to coach Moron
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Speaker 1: and we've been talking to some coaches. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is totally different from them, especially in free agency. Well,
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Speaker 1: it really is ashell and you and I talked to
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Speaker 1: Doug last week. I think it was Thursday, and at
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Speaker 1: that point, uh, I know he was still working out
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Speaker 1: of the office. I think a couple of coordinators were
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Speaker 1: two maybe Dave. My understanding. At this point, everything's remote.
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Speaker 1: As Doug said, it's they can communicate and just like us,
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Speaker 1: they can do the skype. But I also think just
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Speaker 1: like us, it's a little different. There's that lag, it's
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Speaker 1: not quite the same. I don't think as if a
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Speaker 1: scout has a question for Dave, he can just run
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Speaker 1: down the hall and say, hey, what do you think
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Speaker 1: of this? And you know they have that intuitive conversation.
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Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to get by it, and
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Speaker 1: I'll still be able to prepare. But it's got to
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Speaker 1: be significantly different than maybe it is for us. Or
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Speaker 1: I can sit down to keep board and write my
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Speaker 1: story and I can skype with you guys like this,
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Speaker 1: we can get it done. I think it's got to
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Speaker 1: be a lot different, Brian, even win your game plan.
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Speaker 1: Like right now they are not game playing, but they're
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Speaker 1: putting in the playbook. Um, it's got to be different.
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Speaker 1: And Gruden can't just look across at Keenan McCardell and go, hey,
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Speaker 1: what do you think of this? It's got to be
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Speaker 1: sort of a skype thing. It's not as intuitive. It's
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Speaker 1: got to change it well, And what you're really alluding
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Speaker 1: to is the fact that at some point, in order
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Speaker 1: for them to do what they do, they have to
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Speaker 1: be together in the same room, in the same locker room,
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Speaker 1: on the same practice field. And John, what we really
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Speaker 1: don't know is when that's going to occur, right, sir?
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Speaker 1: A season Pro Jeopardy O t AS or In Jeopardy
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Speaker 1: Minicamp in June as well. Uh. The Olympics reportedly are
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Speaker 1: being pushed back to at least one And I was
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Speaker 1: reading a story this morning with a member of the
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Speaker 1: World Health Organization who said he didn't see this peaking
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Speaker 1: in North America until mid to late July. Now it
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Speaker 1: seems like a credical source. If he's correct on that,
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Speaker 1: then we're talking about some disruption to the to the season. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, we can talk all we want about how
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Speaker 1: do they do this, that and the other thing, But
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Speaker 1: when did they get together in the same room. I
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Speaker 1: think that's the interesting part. You know. One day before
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Speaker 1: it all came part one of my boys said to me, Dad,
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Speaker 1: what about this? And I said, Look, if I had
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Speaker 1: told you that they were going to stop the TPC
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Speaker 1: on Thursday evening and not continue it, or canceled the
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Speaker 1: NBA season right or March madness completely wiped off the books,
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Speaker 1: what would you have said? Well, I wouldn't have believed it.
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Speaker 1: I said, exactly, you have to take everything now as possible, John,
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Speaker 1: and I can't even begin to answer your question because
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering what are they gonna get in the same room.
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Speaker 1: When is it gonna be July, August, September. That's the
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Speaker 1: thing about this that makes the new normal such an
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Speaker 1: interesting conversation. It's, uh, it's new, but it is anything
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Speaker 1: but normal. But I think we do have a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a frame of reference. I'm not gonna put
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Speaker 1: it on nearly the scale out as I'm just talking
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Speaker 1: about that logistics. In two thousand and eleven, there was
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Speaker 1: the draft, but if there was nothing else in terms
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Speaker 1: of ots because of the lockout, so and I believe
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Speaker 1: that started at training camps. I think started a couple
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Speaker 1: of days later July. It feels like that's what we
6:04
Speaker 1: could be looking at in terms of logistics. Brian not uh,
6:08
Speaker 1: you know, it could be even later than that, but
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Speaker 1: that would be the one frame of reference for the
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Speaker 1: league basically being on hold except for the draft and
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Speaker 1: then getting together very quickly and it maybe that's a
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Speaker 1: month later, maybe that's games getting I have no idea,
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Speaker 1: but that's the closest thing I can remember anything like
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Speaker 1: the offseason being wiped away. I was talking to a
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Speaker 1: friend of mine who used to work in Jacksonville, and
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Speaker 1: he's a historian of the game, and he went back
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Speaker 1: to the early sixties when you had the NFL competing
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Speaker 1: with the a f L. They were drafting the same
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Speaker 1: players and they didn't know which league the players were
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Speaker 1: going to sign with, or even back to the early
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Speaker 1: forties when you had teams, remember the Stiegels, the Steelers
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Speaker 1: and the Eagles combining the one team, where you NFL
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Speaker 1: having to adapt on the fly. This much the league
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Speaker 1: has grown so long and put in place their systems,
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen this kind of destruction. John. It's um
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Speaker 1: it's new territory for everyone, for the people in football,
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Speaker 1: for those of us who cover them for a living,
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Speaker 1: and for the fans who are pretty used to Oh
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Speaker 1: hey now it's free agency. Oh wait, now I turned
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Speaker 1: my attention to the draft. Oh wait, here comes mini camps,
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Speaker 1: training camps in late July. That whole calendar is now
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Speaker 1: out the door. Yeah. I think your finger references all
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Speaker 1: of anything where there's been stoppages with because the lockouts
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Speaker 1: two seven, where you had chunks of the season it
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Speaker 1: didn't take place, and they came in. Yeah, it's happened before,
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Speaker 1: where there's been games and stuff taken away until it
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Speaker 1: happens differently. I'll probably sort of reference the two thousand
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Speaker 1: eleven season. It feels like that's where we've been looking at.
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Speaker 1: Is a very I guess a shotgun start to borrow
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Speaker 1: turn from golf. All right, So that is coronavirus update,
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Speaker 1: and we will have many more updates weekly. So we're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk more about big thing to the new guys
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Speaker 1: in our next sex segment, Position by position, but let's
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Speaker 1: go new quarterback question mark Nick Foles for poorly being
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Speaker 1: traded at Chicago. Hey, that means Gardner min Shoo's the guy, right,
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Speaker 1: But I think what they have to decide, especially with
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Speaker 1: free agency, if Gardner Minsho's your guy, there's really no
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Speaker 1: point to going and signing a free agent. Go get
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Speaker 1: someone in the draft, have a backup, great, your good
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Speaker 1: Minsho's your guy. If you're not confident he's your guy, though,
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Speaker 1: it does make sense to go get a free agent.
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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston put him on a one year deal. So
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Speaker 1: that's the thing they have to decide. It's something we've
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Speaker 1: been talking about for the past year. Is Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: the guy? Well, I think we're gonna find out to
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Speaker 1: a degree, it's gonna play out over time. Obviously, I'd
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Speaker 1: be surprised if what they do, let's go out and
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Speaker 1: get a jamis Winston level guy. Uh. I've been surprised before,
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Speaker 1: but that was surprised me a little bit. Maybe that
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Speaker 1: next level down just throw out a name, maybe in
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Speaker 1: the the Adalton type, in that realm. It also, I
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Speaker 1: think there until the draft is over with, I think
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Speaker 1: there's going to be sort of a bubbling little discussion
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Speaker 1: of what are they going to do in the draft.
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Speaker 1: They're sitting at number nine, they have draft equity. I
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Speaker 1: question whether they can go all the way up to
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Speaker 1: two or three to get an elite guy, which is
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Speaker 1: what it feels like they would want to try to do.
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Speaker 1: But as you, me and Brian Shelenn have said, for
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Speaker 1: so long, until you get the position solved, as long
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Speaker 1: as you've been deficient the position, as long as the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars had, it has to be something that you're thinking about.
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Speaker 1: I would be surprised if there's not something else here.
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Speaker 1: In case the gardner mentioned we see earlier in the
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Speaker 1: season next year is the same one we saw right
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Speaker 1: after the bye last year. They I don't think he
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Speaker 1: did enough to make them think he's absolutely our guy.
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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go into it without a back up plan.
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Speaker 1: If you recall that was the reason that you sort
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Speaker 1: of wondered about faults. Would they really trade him? If
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Speaker 1: indeed the reports you know all that, would they really
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Speaker 1: trade him? Because you, just as much as you hoped
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Speaker 1: Minsho is the real deal, he just didn't show you
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Speaker 1: enough to make you absolutely believe it. And to me,
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Speaker 1: the next few weeks are fascinating like that because so
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Speaker 1: many fans believe Minsho is the guy, and uh, I
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna take Jaguar's actions from the front office
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Speaker 1: to show you whether they believe that or not. Well,
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Speaker 1: they've got the equity. I mean, go get your guy
10:34
Speaker 1: if you think two is the guy, or whether you
10:36
Speaker 1: want to jump up there and grab Justin Herbert two ones,
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Speaker 1: two or three, three fours to five to sixes or seven?
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Speaker 1: Two ones next year? What two or three fours next year?
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got so much draft capital they can
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Speaker 1: go as high as they want. It's how much are
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Speaker 1: you willing? It takes a lot to get to two
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Speaker 1: from where they are that well, I would agree with you.
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Speaker 1: But if Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson were sitting there
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Speaker 1: at number two, and you knew that this was the
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Speaker 1: guy that was going to put you in the conversation
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Speaker 1: every November into January. You'd willingly spend as much of
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Speaker 1: that as you had to to get to that position
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Speaker 1: that The thing that we don't know is that too,
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Speaker 1: is that Herbert. I don't know. They've got to decide that.
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Speaker 1: But if that guy is there, absolutely go grab it.
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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing we know for sure. They cannot
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Speaker 1: go into training camp with only Gardner Minshew as the plan.
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Speaker 1: He did plenty as a sixth round pick, but he
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Speaker 1: didn't do enough to grab the job. I can say that, Well,
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Speaker 1: that's Sexton's opinion, or that's Osier's opinion. What do the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars think. Well, you talked to coaches or players or scouts.
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Speaker 1: They all have complimentary things to say about Gardner. They
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Speaker 1: like him. They think he's a guy with some ability.
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Speaker 1: But no one's gonna point and go, yeah, he's our
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he's our DeShawn Watson, so you better not
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Speaker 1: pass on it. So they either have to grab one
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Speaker 1: of the draft this year or plan to grab one
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Speaker 1: next year and sign a Winston and Newton and Dalton.
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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing we know, John Ashlyn there is
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Speaker 1: there are more possibilities for quarterback in the open market then,
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Speaker 1: at least to my knowledge, have ever been in free agency.
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Speaker 1: So decide what you want and go get it. But
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Speaker 1: you can't just go in with Gardner and say that's
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Speaker 1: the guy. Everything's fine. He did enough to give him hope. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I didn't do enough to make him know for sure.
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Speaker 1: And now, John, that's the reality. He did enough for
12:25
Speaker 1: you to say, Okay, we'll start with him as the one.
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Speaker 1: Whether you stay with him is the one or not
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Speaker 1: is to be determined. We also have to factor with
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Speaker 1: free agency, Brian, you and I were talking before the
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Speaker 1: show about the cap space. It's a little better now,
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Speaker 1: but you're looking at someone like Cam Newton. You can't
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Speaker 1: go sign Cam Newton to a big deal and have
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Speaker 1: him be an option. It's going to have to be
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Speaker 1: like an Andy Dalton or a one year deal, which
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Speaker 1: really restricts you. Right now, you know you want to
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Speaker 1: get a big guy in free agency. Here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: The cap is growing and next year there's According to
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Speaker 1: spot Track, which is the service that I subscribe to,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have a hundred and thirty million dollars in
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Speaker 1: cap room. So if they decided that one of those
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Speaker 1: guys was their guy, the one they wanted to build
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Speaker 1: the next few years around, they could cut a deal
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Speaker 1: front loading it with bonus money, amortized it over the
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Speaker 1: next couple of years. They could get clever. Dave and
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Speaker 1: Johnny Zick and Tim Walsh could find a way to
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Speaker 1: do it. Now seeing how it worked out with Nick
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Speaker 1: and the money that they're eating this year and in
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Speaker 1: the dead money, I'm not sure they want to do it,
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Speaker 1: but if if they did, there is a way they
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Speaker 1: could do it. Yeah. With you, Brian, I just can't
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Speaker 1: see the taste for that would be a third consecutive
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Speaker 1: year where you're signing a big number of your cat
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Speaker 1: to a quarterback that you're not sure as a franchise guy.
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Speaker 1: I guess they must have thought Fols was, but I
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Speaker 1: just wonder if the appetites there do that third year.
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Speaker 1: I doubt it, and I just want to throw this out.
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Speaker 1: So Patrick Mahomes is the first quarterback that the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: have drafted in their history in Kansas City that has
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Speaker 1: led them to a playoff win. They they Don mcnot,
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Speaker 1: Don mckowski, Steve de Bergh and Joe Montana, Uh, Steve Bono,
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Speaker 1: Elvis Gerback. Yeah, they were on this run. I mean,
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Speaker 1: and people go, oh, what about Lan Dawson. Well he
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Speaker 1: was a pick by the Steelers. But for you know,
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Speaker 1: fifty years, they were constantly you know, drafting guys like
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Speaker 1: Todd black Leitch and then filling in with veteran free
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Speaker 1: agents and then got where they wanted to be until
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Speaker 1: they finally drafted the right guy. So don't keep being
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Speaker 1: that team that. Okay, well, now we're gonna grab Fulls
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Speaker 1: and now we're gonna grab Winston and then we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go do this. If my homes is in the draft,
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Speaker 1: if that guy who can beat your guy is there
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Speaker 1: to take him, and let's get on with it. Let's
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Speaker 1: go but waste in time. Dang it, all right, and
14:48
Speaker 1: those there are big things. Trying to create some sense
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Speaker 1: so still distanting from John He normally likes to do
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Speaker 1: Working from home away from Brian and I, and let's
17:15
Speaker 1: get into position by position. We've had this segment throughout
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Speaker 1: the off season. We knew it would definitely change during
17:21
Speaker 1: free agency, and it absolutely has. At linebacker, the Jaguars
17:25
Speaker 1: signing Joe Schobert out of Cleveland, a middle linebacker, a
17:29
Speaker 1: true middle linebacker. John, You and I have the chance
17:31
Speaker 1: to talk to him last week. I kind of get
17:34
Speaker 1: Paul pazz Lusnie vibes from him. Definitely strictly business, not
17:39
Speaker 1: a lot of funny business going on, no drama. Just
17:41
Speaker 1: wants to come here and play well, you hope so.
17:45
Speaker 1: And you know, I always hesitate to predict how a
17:48
Speaker 1: guy is gonna fit in because you just don't know
17:49
Speaker 1: in freetency on the field. He certainly has those pause overtones.
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Speaker 1: In terms of a guy who had been solid for
17:55
Speaker 1: three years, you knew what you were getting when he
17:57
Speaker 1: came in. But beyond all that, you know, there were
18:01
Speaker 1: a couple of things that really made sense about this.
18:03
Speaker 1: One is if you're going to try to win next
18:06
Speaker 1: year and you're going to try to compete, the first
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Speaker 1: thing they had to do is figure out a way
18:11
Speaker 1: to get the run stopped. When you can't stop the run,
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Speaker 1: you're never gonna win, gets all the team's gonna do
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Speaker 1: to you, and they'll never fail because you don't turn
18:18
Speaker 1: the ball over when you run. Usually you just run
18:21
Speaker 1: and you dominate the game times a's and all that.
18:23
Speaker 1: So they had to get that stopped it to find
18:26
Speaker 1: the season last year in weeks nine through fourteen, whatever
18:29
Speaker 1: that stretch was. But as much as anything, it's one
18:33
Speaker 1: signing that allows them to get better in two spots.
18:36
Speaker 1: You would think, you would hope booing Miles to the
18:38
Speaker 1: weak side strength and strengthens them there. I don't think
18:42
Speaker 1: they're done trying to improve the run. I know they
18:44
Speaker 1: had one more addition and uh and uh gun, but
18:48
Speaker 1: I think they'll think one more huge draft pick defensive tackle,
18:53
Speaker 1: fortify the middle of that area, and then you give
18:56
Speaker 1: yourself a chance to be in games. Too often. They
18:59
Speaker 1: weren't in games last year because they were playing uphill
19:03
Speaker 1: because that's what it is, and you can't stop the run.
19:05
Speaker 1: From what I hear, he's an excellent tackler. Uh, you
19:08
Speaker 1: have to have that, you know. I go back to
19:10
Speaker 1: a game last year in Carolina where Taven Brian and
19:13
Speaker 1: Miles Jack got tangled up. One went the wrong way,
19:17
Speaker 1: then the other filled the other way, and I mean
19:20
Speaker 1: there goes Christian McCaffrey all the way to the end zone.
19:23
Speaker 1: It was a real simple mistake. It wasn't an issue
19:25
Speaker 1: of whether or not the tackle or the linebacker could
19:29
Speaker 1: literally do their job and make the tackle. They gets wrong,
19:32
Speaker 1: they went the wrong way. Somebody made a mistake and
19:34
Speaker 1: the other player had to to accommodate for that. Schobert,
19:38
Speaker 1: i'm told, is incredibly smart, very bright football mind. Is
19:42
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to do the right thing most
19:44
Speaker 1: of the time. Um, all for it. You can't have
19:48
Speaker 1: enough run stuffers right now. Yeah, we were talking we've
19:51
Speaker 1: done your own last week and he said he had
19:53
Speaker 1: the conversation with Miles about moving into the weak side.
19:56
Speaker 1: He said, Miles is actually very excited to make move.
19:58
Speaker 1: That's his more natural position and that's where he feels
20:01
Speaker 1: most comfortable. So it sounds like with Joe Shower being
20:04
Speaker 1: a true middle linebacker, they kind of have things figured
20:06
Speaker 1: out now where everyone is now where they're supposed to be.
20:09
Speaker 1: Last year that wasn't the case, especially when you had
20:11
Speaker 1: Miles go out and then you had Donald Payne going
20:13
Speaker 1: in as middle linebacker. No, not that, but where's the
20:16
Speaker 1: kid from from Murray's date end. He's not a strong
20:20
Speaker 1: side linebacker. He was a safety in college. You are
20:23
Speaker 1: a little deficient at safety. Does he go back to safety?
20:26
Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. Third round rap, I'm expecting his
20:29
Speaker 1: second year he's gonna be sitting on the bench. It
20:32
Speaker 1: was surprising. It's okay to have depth. I mean, remember,
20:35
Speaker 1: guys get hurt now. Quincy Williams, if he does play
20:38
Speaker 1: weeks side would look like pretty good depth. Thank It's
20:40
Speaker 1: matching anything with Miles, Brian and Shelanta. I've got to
20:44
Speaker 1: think that he just wants, no matter where he plays,
20:48
Speaker 1: to be playing next to somebody that he can trust
20:51
Speaker 1: where they are. That as much as Myles has been
20:53
Speaker 1: criticized for last year, maybe fairly so, at times, his
20:57
Speaker 1: biggest problem was not Miles Jack. It was trying to
21:00
Speaker 1: figure out how to make up what was going on
21:02
Speaker 1: around him with all the uncertainty. So from Miles perspective,
21:06
Speaker 1: I know for a couple of years he really wanted
21:08
Speaker 1: to be in the middle. He was really embracing that.
21:10
Speaker 1: My guess at this point is that he's just thinking,
21:13
Speaker 1: as long as the guy next to me I can
21:15
Speaker 1: trust where he is, I can go play football again.
21:19
Speaker 1: The demise of Miles Jack has been so overblown by
21:23
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I think he has a chance
21:25
Speaker 1: to have a big year next year, as long as
21:27
Speaker 1: he knows what's going on in the field and doesn't
21:29
Speaker 1: have to make up for what's going on next to him.
21:31
Speaker 1: It's worth pointing out this will be his first venture
21:33
Speaker 1: to the weak side. He was a strong side linebacker
21:35
Speaker 1: because Telbyn was the weak side backer um and then
21:38
Speaker 1: he moved into the middle. So he's gone strong middle
21:41
Speaker 1: and now he'll be on the weak side for the
21:42
Speaker 1: first time. Be interesting to see how he does with it.
21:45
Speaker 1: And you can't help but think about last year and
21:47
Speaker 1: all the movement linebacker. I mean in the middle of
21:49
Speaker 1: the season, we had guys going in and out, they
21:51
Speaker 1: were signing guys. There were new additions to linebacker basically
21:54
Speaker 1: every single week. Then some Miles then to get them
21:56
Speaker 1: set up and ready. Caroline, I think was the first
21:58
Speaker 1: example we saw of that. Christian McCaffrey ran all over
22:02
Speaker 1: this team all right, and that is our position by
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Speaker 1: A welcome back to Jaguars Drive time for own mail bag.
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24:31
Speaker 1: Section one mark seeing how the dust has seemingly settled
24:36
Speaker 1: on the first and second tiers of free agency and
24:38
Speaker 1: with the reports that Davian Clowne will likely be taking
24:41
Speaker 1: less than what was thought to be perceived market value,
24:44
Speaker 1: did Yawn his camp potentially overplay their hand here, John, Well,
24:50
Speaker 1: you know it's been the Jaguars thought all along that
24:54
Speaker 1: they offered a fair deal, maybe more than a fair
24:57
Speaker 1: deal last offseason, and uh, it certainly looks like with
25:03
Speaker 1: Davian Clowney not getting what's reported twenty million. You know,
25:07
Speaker 1: I love Joan as a player, I love watch him,
25:09
Speaker 1: I love covering him. But if Davian Clowney doesn't get
25:13
Speaker 1: a twenty million a year, it's very hard to imagine
25:16
Speaker 1: Unique and got Way being up in that range, just
25:19
Speaker 1: because I don't think the perception around the league is
25:22
Speaker 1: that he's at that level, that versatile, that dominant, all
25:25
Speaker 1: those things. So, uh, if the reports last summer where
25:29
Speaker 1: the Jaguars had offered nineteen million is I don't how
25:32
Speaker 1: right they were, but say eighteen to nineteen million seventeen.
25:35
Speaker 1: You know, I've been saying a long there's a possibility
25:37
Speaker 1: that that is the market value. So for a team,
25:41
Speaker 1: Brian or for fans to expect that somebody is going
25:46
Speaker 1: to come in and offer a first round pick and
25:50
Speaker 1: have to sign Unique and got Way to five years
25:53
Speaker 1: for ten million. No Way, Now I did with Kansas
25:57
Speaker 1: City last year with Frank Clark. They went and gave
25:59
Speaker 1: a first and a third to Seattle and then gave
26:02
Speaker 1: Clark the hundred million dollar deal. But remember we're talking
26:05
Speaker 1: in Frank Clark, a guy who was coming off the
26:07
Speaker 1: thirteen sacks season, and there's two d and sixty five pounds.
26:10
Speaker 1: He's more of a Josh Allen than a Unique and
26:12
Speaker 1: Gockway type player. But still teams that have the appetite
26:16
Speaker 1: to give up draft capital and then cash on top
26:19
Speaker 1: of that, they are few and far between. Here's my
26:22
Speaker 1: take on it. And got Way is a superior edge
26:25
Speaker 1: rusher to Jadeveon Clowney. I mean, Clowney has never had
26:29
Speaker 1: more than nine sacks. However, Clowney I think is the
26:32
Speaker 1: most disruptive defensive player along the line in the league.
26:36
Speaker 1: I can go back two years when he was in Houston.
26:38
Speaker 1: They would line him up over the center. They would
26:40
Speaker 1: put him in a standing like a monster position between
26:43
Speaker 1: the tackle in the end. He is so long six
26:47
Speaker 1: ft seven. His reaches, I mean it's Michael Jordan's esque,
26:51
Speaker 1: and he's so damn tough to stop, can get his
26:54
Speaker 1: hands up and knock the ball down. He's just a
26:56
Speaker 1: different kind of player. And if I'm paying anybody twenty million,
27:00
Speaker 1: I'm paying for Jadeveon Clowney because his freakish skills are such.
27:04
Speaker 1: You can't go find that on the open market. You
27:06
Speaker 1: can find some undersized pass rushers. Vic Beasley got what
27:10
Speaker 1: nine point five million and a one year deal from
27:12
Speaker 1: the other Titans, And you can say that Beasley he
27:15
Speaker 1: had thirty seven and a half sacks in five seasons,
27:17
Speaker 1: and Gotway had thirty seven and it happened four and
27:20
Speaker 1: Godway had twelve sacks in seventeen. However, in sixteen, Beasley
27:24
Speaker 1: led the league with sixteen and a half sacks. In
27:26
Speaker 1: other words, you can find unique and got Way players
27:29
Speaker 1: pass rushers primarily, but you don't find Jadeveon clowneys. And
27:33
Speaker 1: if Clowney can't get twenty million, then yeah, and got
27:36
Speaker 1: Way overplayed his hand. Yeah, the same of it is.
27:39
Speaker 1: It feels like and got Way has been hurt by
27:43
Speaker 1: the by all that's gone on before. I don't know
27:46
Speaker 1: how he got the idea of that. Jaguars were trying
27:49
Speaker 1: to treat him poorly. Um, you know, I think an
27:53
Speaker 1: argument or the consideration has to be made that. You know,
27:58
Speaker 1: maybe the Jaguars were trying to be air last year
28:01
Speaker 1: when they were negotiating a year out at whatever that
28:04
Speaker 1: price was. You know, I just don't think the Jags
28:07
Speaker 1: throughout this we're being as bad, unfair, unreasonable toward and
28:13
Speaker 1: got way as perhaps he. I haven't spoken to him
28:15
Speaker 1: about it, but perhaps he feels and some of the
28:18
Speaker 1: fans feel. So can the bridge be rebuilt? I don't know,
28:23
Speaker 1: but on the bridge, yes, it can be rebuilt. Yeah,
28:26
Speaker 1: I mean usually I agree with that. Yahn's a different beast,
28:31
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but you would hope. So. Yeah,
28:34
Speaker 1: And you gotta give the Jaguars credit at least when
28:36
Speaker 1: we've talked to Dave Collinell, Dug Moarn, really anyone in
28:39
Speaker 1: the front office, they've been very open and honest that
28:41
Speaker 1: they want to keep an eque here to whatever they
28:43
Speaker 1: can to keep them here. They've been vocal about that.
28:46
Speaker 1: They've been vocal about that in training camp last year.
28:48
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting. And this is definitely not
28:50
Speaker 1: the last time we talked about this. We may have
28:53
Speaker 1: said this. I referenced spot track the Caps service earlier
28:58
Speaker 1: and John, you and I have this conversation if you
29:00
Speaker 1: weeks ago, but they value players based on you know,
29:04
Speaker 1: what position they play, what guys with their skill set
29:07
Speaker 1: and production or earning, and they hadn't gone is about
29:10
Speaker 1: a seventeen and a half million dollar player. So if
29:12
Speaker 1: the Jaguars offer really was nineteen million a year, and
29:15
Speaker 1: I say really was, because I don't know, and Unique
29:17
Speaker 1: has said, don't believe everything that you read or here,
29:20
Speaker 1: But if it really was, well, then he overplayed his
29:22
Speaker 1: hand and he missed an opportunity. Well, and maybe it's
29:26
Speaker 1: a little more that I don't know what they offered,
29:28
Speaker 1: but there's a faction of people out there and say, well,
29:31
Speaker 1: why don't you just overpay? And you paid every video
29:34
Speaker 1: hey on? I think yeah, yeah, But I think they
29:39
Speaker 1: believe that they did try to overpay him at one point.
29:43
Speaker 1: But I can't be there's dog down ridiculous about how
29:50
Speaker 1: much you overpay. Hey, you can overpay for a car,
29:54
Speaker 1: but do you want to pay double the value of that?
29:56
Speaker 1: You know, so there has to be a limit, And
29:59
Speaker 1: I think that's what's getting lost in this. Sometimes you
30:02
Speaker 1: can't just keep right in the checks or else. Look
30:04
Speaker 1: come back to buy you most people. Yeah, but I'm
30:08
Speaker 1: big money. You know you get me? Wants the check
30:12
Speaker 1: written to her? Correct? I would love a check. Now
30:15
Speaker 1: that I'm at home, I'll check my mailbox every day.
30:17
Speaker 1: If you guys want to send something, go right up.
30:20
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to New York City, Scott, what
30:22
Speaker 1: do you got for us? With the Jags stockpiling draft picks?
30:26
Speaker 1: One begins to wonder, at what point do you have
30:29
Speaker 1: too many picks? How many players drafted in this off
30:32
Speaker 1: season's dropped? Do you think make the opening day roster?
30:37
Speaker 1: One thing? Don't I anticipate perhaps they'm using some of
30:40
Speaker 1: these picks to move around a little bit. Uh. You know,
30:44
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they had another pick or
30:46
Speaker 1: two before the draft. I don't know that, But wouldn't
30:48
Speaker 1: shock you to see him go into this thing with, um,
30:53
Speaker 1: you know where they're going to have twelve. I think
30:55
Speaker 1: the answer to the second question is if they have
30:58
Speaker 1: twelve draft picks with this roster right now, with this team,
31:01
Speaker 1: I think all of it would make the team. I
31:03
Speaker 1: think at thirteen or fourteen, because young players can play
31:08
Speaker 1: special teams, you would figure a lot of those guys
31:10
Speaker 1: are drafted linebacker depth, drafted cornerback or safety depth. Um,
31:16
Speaker 1: I don't know they would draft use all those twelve players,
31:20
Speaker 1: but if they did, you know, I think every rookie's
31:23
Speaker 1: gonna make the team. I mean every draft picks and
31:25
Speaker 1: make the team. It wouldn't surprises and und drafted rookies
31:27
Speaker 1: make the team. Ryan, you wouldn't surprise me all. In fact,
31:30
Speaker 1: I would be stunned if they didn't make it all
31:33
Speaker 1: because this team doesn't have the additional cap room. You know,
31:36
Speaker 1: recent years, they've gone out and signed the Jeff Swains
31:38
Speaker 1: of the world, guys who are gonna cost him four
31:41
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, which is a bargain for a
31:44
Speaker 1: veteran player who's gonna come in and do a couple
31:45
Speaker 1: of different things. He's gonna line up in the backfield,
31:47
Speaker 1: lineup on the line of scrimmage. Oh and by the way,
31:49
Speaker 1: playing on your coverage team. So they'll use all those picks.
31:52
Speaker 1: Don't forget all the Soto the Dave Caldwell has the
31:54
Speaker 1: option to use some of these picks and trade into
31:57
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty ones draft, which gives him flexibility.
32:02
Speaker 1: So just because he has them this year, and John,
32:04
Speaker 1: I'm like you. I think they're going to use them
32:06
Speaker 1: to move around, to go up into the first round,
32:08
Speaker 1: or to go back into the third, or however they
32:10
Speaker 1: want to arrange it. But Dave, I guarantee you has
32:13
Speaker 1: a strategy for a number of those picks to be
32:16
Speaker 1: used to create capital for next year as well. And
32:19
Speaker 1: let's not forget all about the offensive holes we've been
32:22
Speaker 1: talking about that still have yet to be filled in
32:24
Speaker 1: free agency. Offensive line, tight in, you wouldn't hate to
32:27
Speaker 1: have another running back, quarterback, you still have so many
32:30
Speaker 1: holes with those picks, you got to fill those hole
32:32
Speaker 1: on offense. Hey, look, this is now officially a rebuilding
32:35
Speaker 1: football team. If we didn't believe that when Boyer was traded,
32:38
Speaker 1: it became clear when Calais Campbell was sent packing. Again,
32:42
Speaker 1: I use a term that I know Dave Caldbell doesn't
32:44
Speaker 1: like to use. He likes to talk about building, not rebuilding. Uh,
32:48
Speaker 1: but all those picks are going to be important for
32:50
Speaker 1: a team that this year is against the cap and
32:52
Speaker 1: has plenty of holes on the roster to fill. The
32:56
Speaker 1: Need's a good news on that front. Brian, I'm sorry,
33:00
Speaker 1: I think the good news on that front is. I
33:02
Speaker 1: think they're gonna draft a running back in the internet,
33:03
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, and I think they're gonna draft two
33:06
Speaker 1: guys at this spot who they want to play pretty
33:08
Speaker 1: quickly and running back. They're gonna want to try to
33:10
Speaker 1: get a change of pace guy wide receiver. I think
33:13
Speaker 1: they're going on a guy who actually plays. But you
33:16
Speaker 1: can get both of those positions, especially in this year's draft.
33:19
Speaker 1: You can get wide receiver third or fourth round and
33:21
Speaker 1: come in and play right away. You can always get
33:23
Speaker 1: running back in that spot. So the picks they've got
33:26
Speaker 1: sort of line up with the needs. They have absolutely
33:30
Speaker 1: a whole lot of picks coming in this series draft.
33:32
Speaker 1: Let's go to Andy from Jacksonville. Well, I understand the
33:36
Speaker 1: business reasons behind it. I think think trading clay As
33:39
Speaker 1: Campbell is going to have the same negative impact on
33:42
Speaker 1: the team as Paul Puss retiring, I know better in
33:45
Speaker 1: presence and leadership maybe overrated, but I think puzz lesni
33:48
Speaker 1: game is when we saw Kelvin's troubles start to show. Yeah,
33:53
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian and how you feel about it, it's
33:57
Speaker 1: a topic. I mean, the one thing that I would
34:00
Speaker 1: say that Dave called one new in two thousand, thirteen
34:03
Speaker 1: fourteen looking back was at least a small error was
34:08
Speaker 1: cutting too close to the bone in terms of some
34:10
Speaker 1: of the veterans that they like, go, Uh, they're gonna
34:12
Speaker 1: be exceedingly young. I talked to Maroan about it last week. Uh,
34:16
Speaker 1: he didn't really express a whole lot of worry about it,
34:18
Speaker 1: but why would he this time of year. Not having Calais,
34:22
Speaker 1: not having veterans in the locker room, those things do
34:25
Speaker 1: affect a team. It's not that you can't overcome it,
34:28
Speaker 1: but it certainly creates an environment where there is no Calais.
34:31
Speaker 1: There hasn't been a positor Mercedes Lewis in the last
34:33
Speaker 1: couple of years, but there's not that old head at
34:38
Speaker 1: each position group that the young guys can look to
34:41
Speaker 1: and know that this is the guy who walks the walk.
34:44
Speaker 1: Offensive line has it with lender Um. Beyond that, maybe
34:48
Speaker 1: four net, maybe Chris Conley, maybe Abrey Jones, but not
34:54
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of guys. Leadership in a lot of
34:57
Speaker 1: cases is players who just do it right. They don't
35:02
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. Uh. As much as Klai
35:04
Speaker 1: has talked, he also did it right where players can
35:07
Speaker 1: look and say this guy is doing it right. There's
35:10
Speaker 1: some guys, but you know, I think that is going
35:13
Speaker 1: to be a topic and maybe an issue next year.
35:15
Speaker 1: A couple of thoughts. One Josh Allen is going to
35:17
Speaker 1: assume a major piece of that. I think all of
35:20
Speaker 1: us thought that he was wise beyond his year's last
35:23
Speaker 1: year and getting one year with Calais made a big
35:25
Speaker 1: difference to him too. A lot of the guys this
35:28
Speaker 1: might not be the fair term, but the toxic guys,
35:31
Speaker 1: you know, the edgy guys, the guys that could go
35:34
Speaker 1: one way or the other, be good or bad, are
35:36
Speaker 1: gone now. Um, you know the majority of those guys
35:40
Speaker 1: have been moved on and moved out. You're never better
35:43
Speaker 1: when you release a guy to go or trade a
35:46
Speaker 1: guy like Calais Campbell. I mean, his presence was overwhelming
35:50
Speaker 1: at times in the locker room, but John, you heard
35:52
Speaker 1: the whispers, as did I that last year when things
35:54
Speaker 1: really went bad, there were guys that were kind of
35:56
Speaker 1: tuning him out. They didn't want to hear the raw raw.
35:59
Speaker 1: They didn't want to hear what they perceived to be
36:01
Speaker 1: the company line. So as much of a leader as
36:04
Speaker 1: he was for three years, he may have lived up
36:07
Speaker 1: to his useful point in that locker room, and it
36:09
Speaker 1: may have been time for him to move on. Yeah. Yeah,
36:15
Speaker 1: I still think you're better leadership wise with a guy
36:18
Speaker 1: like that. But I agree that you know it's an
36:22
Speaker 1: overcomable issue, but it's clear an issue to me, Brian,
36:26
Speaker 1: you and I have talked about and showing us to.
36:29
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is the most mature rookie I've been around,
36:32
Speaker 1: maybe since I was around Bob Sanders, the safety Indianapolis
36:35
Speaker 1: and four. I think he was a rookie. Bob had
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Speaker 1: the ability, it didn't matter he was talking to a
36:40
Speaker 1: thirty two year old player in the team if it
36:42
Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning. He considered himself an equal from the
36:46
Speaker 1: day he walked in the door. Some guys just have
36:48
Speaker 1: that fink. I was a little cocky on that front.
36:50
Speaker 1: It worked for him. Josh isn't cocky, but he's incredibly confident.
36:55
Speaker 1: He knows how to lead. Guys are drawn to him.
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Speaker 1: To me, he's the hope not only on the field,
37:02
Speaker 1: off the field for this franchise moving forward. I've been
37:05
Speaker 1: fooled before. I was fooled by telling Vin. Do you
37:07
Speaker 1: remember Paul pez Leslie's retirement news conference, He in a
37:11
Speaker 1: suit and a tie, and he spoke like a like
37:14
Speaker 1: the the chairman of the joint ways and means committee, right,
37:17
Speaker 1: I mean he spoke like a senator. And I remember
37:19
Speaker 1: standing there and looking at him, thinking, Wow, how lucky
37:22
Speaker 1: is this team to have a guy like Paul pez
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Speaker 1: Lesnie on the way up and a guy like Televin
37:27
Speaker 1: Smith on the way in. And then what we got
37:29
Speaker 1: from Telvin was anything but. Uh, State's been like he
37:33
Speaker 1: was anything but the leader they hoped he would be in.
37:38
Speaker 1: That will not happen with Josh Allen. We all know
37:40
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen is as real as it gets. I
37:43
Speaker 1: think that he is a strong personality. You combine him
37:47
Speaker 1: with the show Bert. I watched your interview with him. Uh,
37:50
Speaker 1: he seems to be all business as well. You have
37:52
Speaker 1: a coach that's gonna do things different now that he's
37:54
Speaker 1: got more control in that locker room. UM. I don't
37:57
Speaker 1: want You're not better without is, Don't get me wrong.
38:00
Speaker 1: I just don't want people to think that it's catastrophic
38:03
Speaker 1: because he's playing in Baltimore now. I think that there
38:05
Speaker 1: are underpinnings there is, there are foundational pieces in place.
38:10
Speaker 1: They'll be okay. Will there be rocky moments. There have
38:12
Speaker 1: been rocky moments with some of the most veteran teams
38:14
Speaker 1: that this football team has ever had, So there moments,
38:19
Speaker 1: but I think they'll be okay, absolutely right. That is
38:22
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Speaker 1: number one. Fregency is not over. What's the Jaguars still
40:26
Speaker 1: need to address in free agency? Fellas, let's they've addressed
40:32
Speaker 1: so far. Defensive line linebacker Ronnie Gunter, Joe Schobert's heavy
40:37
Speaker 1: on the defense. We've talked about having a lot of
40:40
Speaker 1: offensive holes as well. John, what you got, I'm gonna
40:45
Speaker 1: go with tight end. I'll preface this, t precace this.
40:52
Speaker 1: Let's see if Sexon has index cars, but I think
40:54
Speaker 1: he just tears out some notebook paper from this kid.
40:56
Speaker 1: I have sized col Arn. I think that anything from
41:04
Speaker 1: here on out is going to be a little anticlimactic,
41:08
Speaker 1: unless there's a quarterback signing. But fans were wanting something
41:12
Speaker 1: in front line free agency, first wave free agency on
41:14
Speaker 1: a tight end. I never thought that was gonna happen,
41:17
Speaker 1: either there or an offensive line, just because they weren't
41:19
Speaker 1: going to set the market in those areas. But uh,
41:23
Speaker 1: they always have the belief that they want to get
41:25
Speaker 1: at least guys who they feel comfortable with lining up.
41:28
Speaker 1: They haven't really done that tight end maybe Josh Oliver,
41:31
Speaker 1: but you get figured they're gonna add something else there
41:33
Speaker 1: with the Shaughnessy haven't been hurt last year, so I
41:37
Speaker 1: think tight end, although I don't think the signing is
41:39
Speaker 1: going to dazzle people. Fair enough, Brian, what you got?
41:44
Speaker 1: All right? I'll go with the defensive back. You choose
41:47
Speaker 1: a safety or a cornerback. Um. I think there's a
41:50
Speaker 1: lot of draftable players on the offensive side, especially um,
41:55
Speaker 1: the defensive side. Some more veteran leadership makes sense, guys
41:59
Speaker 1: who have done it, been there. Um, you're gonna have
42:02
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon on one corner. Uh, you need more help
42:07
Speaker 1: in the backfield. I like, uh, Quincy not Quincy? Um
42:12
Speaker 1: help me? Why have I drawn a blank? The safety
42:16
Speaker 1: from Michigan? They started in terrible. I don't know why
42:20
Speaker 1: I call him Quincy because I was thinking about Quincy
42:22
Speaker 1: Williams going back to safety. I like Jared Wilson and
42:25
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison is a very talented guy but has yet
42:28
Speaker 1: to come close to his potential. So I would say
42:31
Speaker 1: a veteran safety, a veteran nickelback, a veteran corner more
42:35
Speaker 1: help in the secondary because numbers are gonna have to
42:37
Speaker 1: bear out there. Absolutely all right, Ashal ask number two.
42:41
Speaker 1: This might not have changed, however, with the two free
42:44
Speaker 1: agent picks the Jaguars now have, who are you taking
42:48
Speaker 1: at number nine? We've talked about Derek Brown, we talked
42:51
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons, talked about bunch of defensive players, one
42:54
Speaker 1: of them being out of South Carolina. But you just
42:56
Speaker 1: added someone on the defensive lamb with Ronnie gun Shurt.
42:59
Speaker 1: Do you still want to go defensive line at number nine?
43:03
Speaker 1: So what's the question? You want? Any dependsion taking it
43:08
Speaker 1: number nine? What's the name? Sorry, was a little lengthy
43:12
Speaker 1: of a question. Paragraph. Actually, I'm gonna say Derek Brown,
43:21
Speaker 1: right am? I on? Yeah, you're on. I'm gonna go
43:25
Speaker 1: with to Uh. I don't think he's gonna be there.
43:28
Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming you have to draft up. I'm gonna
43:30
Speaker 1: say quarterbacks. I'm gonna say that you that's who I want.
43:34
Speaker 1: I want the quarterback. I want the Jaguars to address
43:36
Speaker 1: the position this year. Um, They've got the capital to
43:39
Speaker 1: go do it. So from nine they launch up to
43:42
Speaker 1: wherever they need to go to get the quarterback. John,
43:46
Speaker 1: you're staying Derek Brown. I'm I'm still gonna say Derek
43:49
Speaker 1: Brown because I guess I'm gonna sound like a broken
43:52
Speaker 1: broken record on this and fancy you're tired of hearing
43:54
Speaker 1: about it to me? For this team, I get the
43:59
Speaker 1: R word that I'm I'm not gonna say rebuild because
44:02
Speaker 1: fans are getting irritated for not saying it, and I
44:05
Speaker 1: like irritating fans. So uh, But if you're gonna have
44:10
Speaker 1: a chance to win next year, if if you don't
44:14
Speaker 1: stop your territory there better than they did for those
44:19
Speaker 1: five six weeks, no way do you have a chance
44:22
Speaker 1: to win. So I think they're gonna go Derek Brown
44:25
Speaker 1: or some you know, if they don't get Brown there,
44:27
Speaker 1: they may have to trade up to get Ken Law later.
44:30
Speaker 1: They've got to fortify themselves in the middle of the defense.
44:32
Speaker 1: Good start with Schobert. Need one more guy, absolutely all right? Final,
44:37
Speaker 1: Ashlan ask not football related? At what point, at what day,
44:42
Speaker 1: at what hour are you going to go insane from
44:44
Speaker 1: being at home? Isn't in an hour, Brian? I see
44:48
Speaker 1: your kids trying to get up right now. It's three
44:51
Speaker 1: or four teens, So put me down for three. I see,
44:54
Speaker 1: I see the boys trying to get in the shot.
44:56
Speaker 1: They're found up, they're ready to go get the shot.
45:00
Speaker 1: Come on, you guys want to where's right now? They
45:03
Speaker 1: would be camera shy. Yeah, this is my whole ball.
45:09
Speaker 1: This is Ryan where the job was taking at number nine.
45:13
Speaker 1: We can take a nine. There we go pure. You
45:21
Speaker 1: don't have to get the picture. Who you who Oh?
45:25
Speaker 1: Colby is an Oregon fan, and he says justin Herbert, okay,
45:29
Speaker 1: putting a little fan. Well, you know, the quarterback position
45:33
Speaker 1: is important. So John, when are you going to go insane?
45:39
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say never, you know, because he's already been
45:42
Speaker 1: there for a long time. I've got rat dog, I've
45:45
Speaker 1: got I've got a garage refrigerator full of easy on
45:50
Speaker 1: the eyes from intuition. So I'm this to me, you know,
45:57
Speaker 1: for me personally, I'm fine, So you know, bring it on. Never.
46:02
Speaker 1: This is heaven. I wouldn't say heaven. And now other
46:08
Speaker 1: people in my life May Goodlin saying because I'm here,
46:13
Speaker 1: well they can just skype you and we can chip
46:17
Speaker 1: chat at the same thing, all right, and that time digitally.
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Speaker 1: This week and probably for the foreseeable future, stay tuned
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