Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Hillary Clinton And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Talk With Congress (Part 14) (9/18/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with the Hillary Clinton transcript from
- 0:09Speaker 1: her trip to Congress. And now doing the questioning is
- 0:13Speaker 1: Scott Perry. Good afternoon, Madam Secretary. Answer. Good afternoon. Question.
- 0:20Speaker 1: You live in a particularly beautiful part of the country. Answer.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Thank you. Question. Good for you. Answer. It's very pretty
- 0:28Speaker 1: up here. Question, Madam Secretary, once it was revealed publicly
- 0:32Speaker 1: that you and President Clinton were connected, I'm going to
- 0:35Speaker 1: use that term, to Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, did
- 0:39Speaker 1: you discuss the subject with your daughter? Answer, I'm not
- 0:42Speaker 1: going to talk about what I did or didn't discuss
- 0:44Speaker 1: with family members, but I can tell you that it
- 0:47Speaker 1: was something that was a grave concern to us. Scott Perry,
- 0:50Speaker 1: I imagine it was, and I know that you're, look,
- 0:53Speaker 1: I think we could probably get a long way here
- 0:55Speaker 1: if we could discuss or have a view into your
- 0:58Speaker 1: discussion with your husband. I suspect you're going to object
- 1:00Speaker 1: to that. Answer. You're right, Congressman. Thank you for granting
- 1:05Speaker 1: me that. Question. These are reasonable questions. Clinton. But Congressman.
- 1:11Speaker 1: He cuts her off. Did your daughter discuss it with you? Answer. Well,
- 1:15Speaker 1: we were all horrified by what was later. Cut off
- 1:18Speaker 1: again by Perry. Horrified in what way? We were all
- 1:21Speaker 1: horrified of what we learned about Jeffrey Epstein, Glenn Maxwell,
- 1:25Speaker 1: the victims. Clinton. Right, right. Question. But did you discuss
- 1:29Speaker 1: with your daughter when you say you were horrified the
- 1:32Speaker 1: connection with her father and the Epstein episode? Answer, my
- 1:36Speaker 1: husband's connection with Jeffrey Epstein began and ended before he
- 1:39Speaker 1: was charged with any crime. And so in retrospect, we
- 1:42Speaker 1: all say, oh my gosh, that was horrific. And why
- 1:45Speaker 1: didn't more people know? And why didn't more people speak
- 1:49Speaker 1: out at the time? But I think the chronology is
- 1:52Speaker 1: critically important. If we're talking about post-crime, that there was
- 1:56Speaker 1: a continuing connection with them That would be unacceptable, but
- 2:00Speaker 1: it ended before he was charged. Question, I understand that,
- 2:04Speaker 1: which is why I particularly said once it was revealed publicly.
- 2:08Speaker 1: I get that continuing to be involved with someone like
- 2:10Speaker 1: that after it was knowledgeable to everyone would be almost
- 2:14Speaker 1: an unforgivable sin. However, I'm married too. Not as long
- 2:18Speaker 1: as you, ma'am, but there would be questions in my family.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Even if I went back before we were married, there
- 2:23Speaker 1: would be questions. Congressman? The lawyer jumps in. I don't
- 2:27Speaker 1: want to interrupt you, but I don't understand the question.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Scott Perry. So my question is, did your daughter discuss
- 2:33Speaker 1: it with you? That was my particular question. Answer. I
- 2:38Speaker 1: think I can't recollect any specific conversation, but of course
- 2:41Speaker 1: we discussed the horrific crimes that he was accused of. Question,
- 2:45Speaker 1: but nothing about her father's connection to it. Answer. Her
- 2:49Speaker 1: father's connection began and ended before he was charged with crimes. Question.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Did your daughter ever mention to you? That she discussed
- 2:55Speaker 1: this matter with her father? Answer. I don't recollect that. Question.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Did you see photos of your husband with young girls
- 3:02Speaker 1: related to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer. I saw the few photos
- 3:05Speaker 1: that my lawyer showed me. Question. Right. Did you see
- 3:08Speaker 1: the photos of your husband with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I have seen such photos. Question. They're out there, right? Answer. Yeah. Question.
- 3:17Speaker 1: I imagine you're familiar, but I just want to make sure.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Since seeing these photos, have any questions about the content, location,
- 3:24Speaker 1: General circumstances come to your mind? Answer, no. It was
- 3:28Speaker 1: unfortunate that he ever did anything with Jeffrey Epstein. Question,
- 3:32Speaker 1: there was no curiosity? Lawyer jumps in, excuse me, are
- 3:36Speaker 1: you asking for an opinion? Or is there a fact
- 3:39Speaker 1: that she can share with you that would be helpful
- 3:41Speaker 1: in your investigation? Perry, well, I did say. There were
- 3:45Speaker 1: any questions? I'll give you an example. If I saw
- 3:48Speaker 1: a picture with my wife, it's just really hard to
- 3:51Speaker 1: be relevant. If my wife saw pictures with me as
- 3:54Speaker 1: a grown man, hanging out with obviously or close to
- 3:57Speaker 1: underage women, regardless if it was before we were married
- 4:00Speaker 1: or not, it would be a question. And so what
- 4:03Speaker 1: I'm asking you is, did any question regarding those photographs
- 4:06Speaker 1: come to your mind? Answer, I'm going to just as
- 4:10Speaker 1: clearly as I can state this, say I don't see
- 4:12Speaker 1: the relevance of your question, and I'm not going to
- 4:15Speaker 1: talk about conversations that I had with my family, especially
- 4:18Speaker 1: my husband. Question and for clarity, Are you all asserting
- 4:22Speaker 1: spousal privilege? Lawyer, for clarity, we're looking for the relevance
- 4:26Speaker 1: of her conversation with her husband and what she might
- 4:28Speaker 1: have thought about her conversations with. How does that help
- 4:31Speaker 1: further the legislative purpose of the committee as they investigate
- 4:35Speaker 1: the prosecution and investigation of Epstein? Lawyer, I think Mr.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Perry's questions directly relate to... The other lawyer jumps in.
- 4:44Speaker 1: To her daughter? To her husband? Clinton to what? My
- 4:46Speaker 1: state of mind? Lawyer, state of mind? Clinton... What possible
- 4:51Speaker 1: relevance does my state of mind have to the investigation?
- 4:55Speaker 1: So they go back and forth for a minute. Now
- 4:57Speaker 1: Clinton says, I'm not here to give opinions. I'm here
- 5:00Speaker 1: to answer factual questions. And I have answered for many
- 5:03Speaker 1: hours now that I had no relationship because I never
- 5:06Speaker 1: met the guy, to the best of my recollection, with
- 5:09Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Perry, and I'm not implying, and you shouldn't ever,
- 5:13Speaker 1: that I have made that connection. I'm not implying that.
- 5:17Speaker 1: You're still married, Madam Secretary? Still married, correct? Correct. Answer,
- 5:21Speaker 1: that's very true. Question, okay, can you identify the man
- 5:24Speaker 1: in these photos? Answer, I can't see them across the table. Question,
- 5:28Speaker 1: let me get them a little closer. Lawyer, so just
- 5:31Speaker 1: for the record, you would like her to identify pictures
- 5:33Speaker 1: of her spouse? Perry, yeah. Question, you need her to
- 5:36Speaker 1: testify on pictures of her spouse? Hillary Clinton, the 42nd
- 5:41Speaker 1: President of the United States of America? That's my husband. Question, okay,
- 5:44Speaker 1: do you know the location? Answer, I have no knowledge
- 5:47Speaker 1: of the location. I have context for the location. I
- 5:50Speaker 1: know nothing about the location. Question, if you were informed
- 5:54Speaker 1: that that's on Mr. Epstein's plane, lawyer, would you like
- 5:57Speaker 1: her to speculate based on your opinion or fact? Perry,
- 6:00Speaker 1: no ma'am, if you let me ask my question. If
- 6:03Speaker 1: you were informed that was on Mr. Epstein's plane, that
- 6:07Speaker 1: is known to have frequented not only the island, but
- 6:09Speaker 1: other locations where sexual abuse, horrific sexual abuse occurred, would
- 6:13Speaker 1: you have any questions about those photos and who's in them?
- 6:17Speaker 1: Lawyer jumps in, objection, calls for speculation. States facts, not
- 6:21Speaker 1: in evidence. I'm not instructing you not to answer. Hillary, well, no,
- 6:25Speaker 1: I'm not going to speculate. Perry, do you know the
- 6:27Speaker 1: names of any of the young girls in the photo
- 6:29Speaker 1: with your husband? Answer, the faces are blacked out. Congressman, correct,
- 6:34Speaker 1: that's the lawyer. Perry, I understand that, but the photos
- 6:37Speaker 1: are out there. Questioned by the lawyer, are you saying
- 6:40Speaker 1: she should be able to know who the individuals are
- 6:43Speaker 1: when they're in the photos and they're blacked out? Now,
- 6:46Speaker 1: Perry responds, what I'm saying is that a normal relationship
- 6:50Speaker 1: you would probably ask the person that you're sleeping with
- 6:52Speaker 1: who that person in the photo is. Lawyer, well, there
- 6:56Speaker 1: are many things that I would just like to stay,
- 6:58Speaker 1: and I'd like to stay on the record here, thank you.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Another lawyer jumps in. Let's wait for a question at
- 7:03Speaker 1: which you can give a factual answer. Clinton, that would
- 7:06Speaker 1: be helpful. Perry, are you aware of a single misstatement
- 7:09Speaker 1: of fact from any person who you know or believe
- 7:12Speaker 1: to be an Epstein victim? Answer, I have got no
- 7:17Speaker 1: knowledge of all the statements of fact. Question, so at
- 7:21Speaker 1: this point, the answer would be no. Answer, I don't know.
- 7:24Speaker 1: I have no way of knowing. Question, please don't mischaracterize
- 7:28Speaker 1: her statement. That's the lawyer. Perry again, are you aware
- 7:32Speaker 1: that your husband's name is noted multiple times in Jeffrey
- 7:35Speaker 1: Epstein's flight logs? Clinton, I think everyone knows that he
- 7:38Speaker 1: flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, as did many other people,
- 7:41Speaker 1: including Donald Trump. Stop asking me questions. Trump did it too. Yeah,
- 7:46Speaker 1: we'll get to that. Right now, we're talking about you.
- 7:49Speaker 1: and your brain-dead-ass husband. Perry, understood, understood. Well, I don't
- 7:54Speaker 1: know about that last one, but did you ever discuss
- 7:56Speaker 1: the fact that anyone or any organization that your husband's
- 8:00Speaker 1: name appeared on the flight logs? Clinton, I don't recall.
- 8:04Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about it with my lawyers and
- 8:06Speaker 1: others assisting in my preparation, but I can't recall specifics. Question,
- 8:11Speaker 1: are you aware of trips made by your husband on
- 8:13Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's numerous helicopters, whether piloted by Glenn Maxwell or
- 8:18Speaker 1: anyone else? Lawyer jumps in, objection, states facts, not in evidence. Answer,
- 8:25Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Question, are you aware of the allegation? Answer, no,
- 8:30Speaker 1: I was not. Question, the allegation does exist in the record.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Is that something you're curious about, Madam Secretary? Answer, I
- 8:37Speaker 1: have no awareness of it. Perry, questions are complete. Thank you, ma'am.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Next person up doing the questioning, Lauren Boebert from Colorado. Question, Ms. Clinton,
- 8:50Speaker 1: Madam Secretary, while we sat on the record today, are
- 8:53Speaker 1: you under oath? Answer, I am. Question, okay, have you
- 8:56Speaker 1: ever lied while being under oath? Answer, I have not. Question,
- 9:01Speaker 1: have you ever lied in a deposition? Answer, I have not. Question, okay,
- 9:05Speaker 1: thank you. Have you ever transmitted any information to Epstein
- 9:09Speaker 1: or Ghislaine Maxwell about the United States government? Answer, I
- 9:12Speaker 1: have not. Question, as has been mentioned many times here today,
- 9:16Speaker 1: Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane at least 26 times,
- 9:20Speaker 1: multiple international trips from 2002 to 2003, often with Maxwell.
- 9:26Speaker 1: When and how did you first learn of these trips?
- 9:29Speaker 1: And did you discuss them or review them with him
- 9:31Speaker 1: prior to taking the trips? Lawyer jumps in. It's a
- 9:35Speaker 1: compound question. I'm going to object to the latter part
- 9:38Speaker 1: of it. Lauren Boebert, sure. An instructor not to answer
- 9:41Speaker 1: on the grounds. And to this, Boebert cuts them off.
- 9:45Speaker 1: When and how did you learn of these trips? of
- 9:48Speaker 1: these trips. Clinton, I don't recall how I learned about them.
- 9:52Speaker 1: I knew that he was traveling on a number of
- 9:53Speaker 1: different planes owned by a number of different people, and
- 9:56Speaker 1: I don't recollect having conversations about the planes. We talked
- 10:00Speaker 1: about the work. We talked about the meetings that he had.
- 10:03Speaker 1: We talked about his efforts to try to persuade countries
- 10:06Speaker 1: to invest in low-cost aid trucks. That's what we talked about. Question,
- 10:11Speaker 1: did you discuss who he'd be traveling with? Answer, I
- 10:14Speaker 1: did not. I don't have any recollection of that. Question, Ms. Clinton?
- 10:18Speaker 1: When did you find out that your husband was spending
- 10:20Speaker 1: time extensively with a registered sex offender? Clinton. He did not.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Not after. Boebert. Okay. Clinton. He was convicted years after
- 10:29Speaker 1: Bill stopped having any relationship. Question. Were there any activities
- 10:33Speaker 1: that raised a red flag to think that he could
- 10:35Speaker 1: be charged of sex crimes during the time that Clinton?
- 10:39Speaker 1: Lawyer jumps in. Are you asking if she has awareness? Boebert. Yes.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Clinton of Jeffrey Epstein. Boebert. Of any red flags being
- 10:48Speaker 1: brought to your awareness, to your family's awareness, while your
- 10:51Speaker 1: husband was spending time with Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, I have
- 10:54Speaker 1: no recollection of anyone bringing any red flags to me. Question,
- 10:58Speaker 1: so have any of the victims of Epstein or Maxwell
- 11:01Speaker 1: ever reached out to you in any way? Clinton, I
- 11:03Speaker 1: don't recall that. Question, you don't recall any reason a
- 11:07Speaker 1: victim may have reached out to you or your counsel?
- 11:11Speaker 1: Lawyer jumps in, excuse me, the question's asked and answered.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Lauren Boebert, I asked any. Lawyer jumps in and cuts
- 11:17Speaker 1: her off, whether or not any victim reached out to her,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and she said she didn't have any awareness of that. Boebert,
- 11:23Speaker 1: moving on. Ms. Clinton, are you aware of anyone ever
- 11:26Speaker 1: telling your husband that they had damaging information about him
- 11:30Speaker 1: that they would release? Answer, I have no awareness of that. Question,
- 11:34Speaker 1: did Epstein ever ask you or Mr. Clinton for any
- 11:36Speaker 1: favors of any kind? Answer, I never talked to Jeffrey Epstein. Question,
- 11:40Speaker 1: did Maxwell ever ask you or Mr. Clinton for any
- 11:43Speaker 1: favors of any kind? Answer, she did not ask me. Question,
- 11:48Speaker 1: did Epstein have any connection to her association with the
- 11:51Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation? Answer, there has been the allegation that he did,
- 11:55Speaker 1: but I don't have any factual basis for knowing one
- 11:57Speaker 1: way or the other. Question, okay. And as we discussed today,
- 12:02Speaker 1: the small amount donated historically and the $ 20, 000 to your campaign,
- 12:06Speaker 1: the 1999 Senate campaign. Lawyer Johnson, excuse me, could you
- 12:10Speaker 1: stay for the record? It was not the campaign. So
- 12:13Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind just stating the fact. Boebert jumps
- 12:16Speaker 1: in $ 200, 000 or $ 20, 000 to Hillary's 1999 Senate campaign? Clinton, no. Lawyer,
- 12:22Speaker 1: that's inaccurate. No, it was a joint, Hillary says, a
- 12:26Speaker 1: joint state campaign. Boebert, joint campaign. Okay, sure. Okay, so
- 12:31Speaker 1: we've talked about those connections. In past public statements, as
- 12:35Speaker 1: in 2017 speeches and interviews, you described Pizzagate as a
- 12:39Speaker 1: baseless conspiracy theory, alleging you and others ran a child
- 12:43Speaker 1: sex trafficking ring from a Washington pizzeria basement. Have you
- 12:47Speaker 1: reviewed any of the 2025-2026 Epstein files that were released
- 12:52Speaker 1: that you believe reference or relate to those specific 2016
- 12:56Speaker 1: claims regarding the Podesta emails? Comment Ping Pong Pizza used
- 13:00Speaker 1: as code possibly? Lawyer jumps in. You're asking her about
- 13:05Speaker 1: whether she's reviewed emails, Boebert, yes, in the Epstein files. Lawyer,
- 13:10Speaker 1: which relate to the wacky Pizzagate scam? Boebert, You could
- 13:14Speaker 1: characterize it however you want. I just would like to
- 13:17Speaker 1: know if she was familiar with any of them. Lawyer,
- 13:20Speaker 1: excuse me, your question is about whether or not she
- 13:22Speaker 1: has reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about Pizzagate?
- 13:27Speaker 1: Lauren Boebert, correct. Hillary Clinton, Pizzagate was totally made up.
- 13:31Speaker 1: It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a
- 13:34Speaker 1: number of people that caused a deranged young man to
- 13:36Speaker 1: show up with an assault rifle and shoot up a
- 13:39Speaker 1: local pizzeria. I can't believe you're even referencing it. Boebert,
- 13:44Speaker 1: there are no connections to the language. Hillary Clinton, well
- 13:47Speaker 1: QAnon people believe there are. Lauren Boebert, I don't know
- 13:51Speaker 1: what QAnon people believe. Hillary Clinton, have at it, have
- 13:54Speaker 1: at it. Question, but you've accused certain parties, and I
- 13:58Speaker 1: think even right now today, of promoting or slow walking
- 14:01Speaker 1: information in ways that fuels conspiracies. In your view, did
- 14:05Speaker 1: any Epstein-Maxwell related investigation or file handling pre or post
- 14:10Speaker 1: 2019 contribute to intersect with the spread of Pizzagate-style theories
- 14:15Speaker 1: about Democratic figures? Hillary Clinton, I have no way of
- 14:18Speaker 1: answering that. Lawyer jumps in, calls for speculation. Boebert, have
- 14:23Speaker 1: you or your representatives identified any Epstein file content that's
- 14:28Speaker 1: been misinterpreted online to revive those claims? And what steps,
- 14:31Speaker 1: if any, have you taken to clarify? Lawyer, again, object
- 14:36Speaker 1: to the grounds of speculation. Boebert, I think that is
- 14:39Speaker 1: all very reasonable. Clinton, well, first of all, I don't
- 14:42Speaker 1: follow the crazy conspiracy stories that are online. I regret
- 14:46Speaker 1: that anybody does. I find it quite sad, but also disturbing,
- 14:50Speaker 1: that people would believe some of what is put forth
- 14:53Speaker 1: like Pizzagate. So I have taken no steps to review
- 14:56Speaker 1: anything that might. Lauren Boebert, do you think pizza, Clinton,
- 15:01Speaker 1: have any connection to something? Boebert, sure. Clinton, which is
- 15:06Speaker 1: totally bogus. Boebert, John Podesta, your 2016 campaign chair, appears
- 15:12Speaker 1: in some Epstein file context, social overlaps, or mentions. Were
- 15:16Speaker 1: you aware of any of the Podesta-related communication in the
- 15:19Speaker 1: release files? Lawyer, can you please provide her examples or
- 15:23Speaker 1: the evidence that you would like us to review or
- 15:25Speaker 1: the exhibits that reflect that in order for her to
- 15:27Speaker 1: be able to do that? Answer, I can get some exhibits.
- 15:31Speaker 1: I'm pausing these questions in the meantime. All right, folks,
- 15:34Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
- 15:35Speaker 1: next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick
- 15:37Speaker 1: up where we left off. All the information that goes
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