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How You Really Feel?: Fat shaming isn't always bad. · The Hack Box

• JRD: Is it wrong to fat shame? Is fat shaming wrong? Yes Brev: But that's like... JRD: or no? Brev: Is it wrong to fat shame? No. JRD: Yes. Brev: No, not all the time. No, because when I first started, all I said when I started this, all I said was JRD: No. You hear me here first. On the head box. Revin said- Brev: no, when I started this, all I said was there is a difference, or at least I differentiate, there's a difference between body shaming and fat shaming. And I think that actual body shaming is a lot worse than fat shaming. And to elaborate on that, I think that if you fat shame someone, I mean, like say you fat shaming friends, like it's out of love really. Hey bro, you getting big. Now that's harmless because fat shaming, so that's, you're kind of just like letting someone know that they can fix something naturally. That's something you can fit naturally is your body fat. Now when it to body shaming, I think I, I kind of categorize that as kind of you're like, you're shaming a part of a body or a part of a person that can't be changed naturally. So like say, you make fun of someone's nose, make fun of someone's ears and how they look, make fun of their fingers. Bro, you can't fix that naturally. So you're just making fun of someone, of how they were born really. And that's a lot worse than fat shaming. Like I said, if you're fat shaming your friends, like it's usually out of love. Like when I gained weight, mean, the first thing people would say to me, mean, my fucking, my dad, my grandma, my boys, like, damn, you gained weight, bro. You're kind of, kind of getting big. I'm like, all right. I mean, I took that like, as like, all right, I'm not taking it personally. I got to fix that. Like, if your body shames someone, bro, that's just like low key evil, bro. Like you're, like, if you're just making fun of someone of how they like, just like look, or like something they were like born with, like. they can't fix naturally without like surgery and everything like that. That's how you cause real insecurity in someone, right? Not fast shaming. Fast shaming is strictly for people's health, bro. like I said, you say to your boys out of like out of love, bro. And it's not, Don: Mm-hmm. Brev: it's not the same. And it's not evil to fashion someone like we love Josh, bro. but we would never body shame Josh. You know what mean? Don: Well well what when I call Josh a fat short piece of shit, JRD: No, but, but I'm finished. Brev: Yeah Don: I'm body shaming and I'm also fat shaving him. So call that what you want. Brev: I guess. Well, that's you, but... JRD: all Me saying something, I'm probably gonna shoot myself in the foot of my foot in my mouth, but It's the same as that shit. It's the same as that thing. Like you have to realize That all because one thing is good and one thing is bad It can still be the same thing like you know Body Brev: Nah. JRD: shaming someone because they're fat if they're fat it's their body. You said yourself you said I'm just making fun of their body fat They both have body in it Brev: Yeah, but you got to differentiate them. They're completely different. JRD: exact thing and it's no no no there's no differentiations it's like you're nitpicking it's called nitpicking you're saying like you can't make fun of someone if they're cock-eyed but you can make fun of someone if they're fat those are those are your ideologies you can't be like like Brev: Yeah, bro being fat was being JRD: No, I get it. Okay, Brev: fat was their choice, bro JRD: what do they have a thyroid problem? I know that's very slim to none. What do have a thyroid problem? What do they get so big when they need surgery to remove the fat? Is it, no, he's fat as fuck. You can't make fun of him anymore because now he needs surgery. Or is it because, whoa, he got to that point so it's okay to make fun of him? That's the congenitivness of Don: What if he was depressed, bro? JRD: your body's depressed, you know? And you can't say that, like, Brev: Still. JRD: negative reinforcement doesn't work with everyone. You can't be like for you, maybe work for me, maybe for JD as well. But you can't say for every single person, if I make fun of him for being fat, it's gonna make him wanna lose weight. And that goes with anything. Let's say if like, someone, Brev: I'm not, that's not what I was saying. JRD: you literally said that. Like you were just saying, let's like. Brev: No, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that, I mean, I'm saying as an example, we use like fat shaming as like a wake up call to our boys. JRD: I know that you use that as justification as why it's okay as a wake-up call You just said then why do you? Brev: Nah bro, but that's something that can be fixed naturally though. Well, okay, how about this? Fat shaming is like a sub category to body shaming and it should Don: It it is. Brev: be separated. JRD: So is making fun of someone for their fingers. It's a subcategory as well. It's all Brev: Nah. Nah. JRD: like what do you mean if you're making fun of someone's appearance? It's body shaming Regardless who is aha Brev: but they should be differentiated. JRD: They are differentiated there's fat shaming there's height shaming as you make fun of some deformities It's already separated. No one says it's the same exact thing Some are worse than others agreed Brev: Mm-hmm. JRD: And that depends on who you ask. But for you to say one's okay and not the other? I don't know. That seems like that's your opinion. Exactly. Don: It's kinda like religion, bro. Religion's religion is one word and there's a category and you got different JRD: Yeah. Don: religions. So this is kinda like you saying that one religion's bad just because the other one is. So you're basically saying Jews are bad? Come on, bro. Brev: No. JRD: Yeah, yeah, exactly. say, I'm Baptist, but if you're Protestant, Brev: Nah. JRD: you're bad person. Don: What do you got against Jews, bro? JRD: Yeah, that's crazy. Brev: No, so like I think like saying making fun of someone's appearance like how they were born like they're like the size of their nose or something like that bro or if they have like a like a you know like a crooked nose Don: Yeah. Brev: you know that's way worse than fat shaming someone bro way worse Don: I don't do so. Brev: and I think it's like five times worse JRD: Okay, can I ask you a question? What's worse, killing someone or stealing someone's car? Brev: What's worse, killing someone or stealing someone's car? JRD: Yeah. Brev: Killing someone, for sure. JRD: Are they both crimes? Brev: They're both crimes, yes. JRD: early both bad. Brev: Yes, they are, but this is not what I'm talking about though. JRD: So with that logic, something can be worse than something else, but that doesn't mean one is good. They both can be bad. That's why they have the word worst. Brev: Well, when I started, said, I didn't say that one was good. I did use examples in where I was like, know, it is a wake up call for the boys. Like when you call your boy fat, like, hey, bro, you letting go. But I first started, but all I first, when I, no, so, not all the time. Not all the time. Not all the time. Not all the time, bro. JRD: So do you say it right here on the hat box right now? It's fat shaming bad Say it right now on the pot. It's fat shaming bad go Say it right now. It's fat shaming bad. Is it yes or no? So so so what Don: What do you mean not all the time? JRD: does that mean? Brev: Not all the time. JRD: Yeah, all the time. All the time when? Don: Well, it's not all the time me. JRD: What does that mean? Brev: I'm not fat shaming someone I don't know. JRD: Okay, great. Is it wrong to fat shame? Is fat shaming wrong? Yes Brev: But that's like... JRD: or no? Brev: Is it wrong to fat shame? No. JRD: Yes. Brev: No, not all the time. No, because when I first started, all I said when I started this, all I said was JRD: No. You hear me here first. On the head box. Revin said- Brev: no, when I started this, all I said was body shaming is way worse than fat shaming. So I didn't even specifically say. JRD: I was fat shaming that body shaming. Don: No. You started it saying that you think those two should be separate. JRD: They two should be separate Brev: Yeah, they should be. JRD: and they're the same thing. And you describe two different types of body shaming. Brev: And like if someone was, if someone was, they should refer like if you're making fun of someone's weight, they're fat shaming. Like that's how it should be differentiated. That's what you should say. But if you're making fun of someone's Don: but at the end of the day it's still body shaming. 'Cause it's JRD: At the end of day it's still body shaming. At the end of the day it's- it's- at end of the day- at the end of the day. Brev: earlobes, bruh, you're body shaming, bro. That's body shame. That's how your body was born, bruh. You're just shaming someone on how they were born. That's way worse. JRD: Some people are beat as opposed to getting laid. Don: People were born fat. Josh. Brev: Some people born big boned. Don: Josh was born fat. Brev: Some people born big boned. Don: Everyone is actually born fat when you're a baby. Every baby's born fat, bro. JRD: Yeah. Don: It's up to you to crawl around and walk around and lose that baby weight. Some people don't. JRD: Yep, and apparently I didn't. It stayed with me my whole life, Don: Yeah, you're true to size when you're born, bro. They're like, this is all he's getting. JRD: Just true to size, yep. I'll let get it, yep. Brev: know, bro. I just think it's way worse to make fun of how someone was born. To fascinate someone. But like, that's what I say. It's not good all the time, bro. Like JRD: Okay, and that's agree- we got them. No. We agreed on them. We're asking you a question. This is- we're trying to understand you better. Brev: Like I say, no, all right, so here. Like what I said, like if I said either Josh, you're fat, or I said, Josh, your fingers look weird. and that you were born and you had to you had like your fingers look weird because you were born that way. Which one's worse? Me calling you fat or me saying that your fingers look weird? JRD: Me personally It's how much a firm Don: You're saying his talking about his deformities is worse than calling him fat. JRD: you're talking about someone's a from his way worth and talk about so Brev: Yeah, exactly, bro. JRD: Wait, but there's still a bulk body Don: But w I'm just trying to get what the point is. JRD: say what's your point? Like? Brev: I'm just saying this is way worse. I think fat shaming. JRD: Brevin is trying to backtrack. It's okay Brevin. We caught you. The reason why we don't understand what you're saying is because Brevin Brev: No, you didn't catch shit, no. Don: It's okay, brother. It's crazy. JRD: Brevin the reason why you're struggling to explain yourself and for us to understand is because you're based on the words you said. We all have comprehension here. You were saying fat shaming for the most part it's okay because you get fat shaming in of your friends ha ha ha ha but when it comes to someone have a physical deformity that's never okay. That's what you're saying. Brev: You can't make fun of how someone was born, bro. I think you can't do that. JRD: That's what I just said. Don: So okay, so in that in that you can't make fun of short people anymore. Throw all your short jokes away. I don't want to hear you make fun of anyone short no more. You can't change JRD: Yeah. Don: that. JRD: Ask me yeah. I would, yeah. I can weigh more when you call me short than when you call me fat. You can't change my shortness. Yeah. Don: He can't change the shortness. Like you said, but he could he can get skinny. I don't know if he can, but for argument's sake. JRD: I got a 12 fact and he blow man. so if you go Don: Ha ha. JRD: crazy, so if they go crazy Don: Yo, you been missing the gym, huh, bro? Brev: So what I was saying is fat shaving is not bad all the time. JRD: If you hear it here first, you can fat- Brevin believes you can fat shame sometime. Brev: You fashion people what? JRD: Yes, clip it. Clip it. Clip it right now. Yeah, we gonna clip it. Yes, man. Don: Check clippy. Brev: You can fashion people, bro. What? JRD: As you know our fans, we just started a TikTok. We could be posting clips. And if you check later next week or so, you're gonna see that clip of Brevin... Cuddoning. fat shaver. Let's cover that for him. Don: trying you trying to cancel the homie is crazy. JRD: Okay, let's have it up for him. Brev: I'm clapping up for it, honestly. JRD: Yeah Brev: Hey man, obesity is a problem in America. Something needs to be done about it. The first Don: It's a disease, bro. Brev: thing, the first step to solving a problem is acknowledging the problem. JRD: acknowledging it, yes. So can you acknowledge without shaming? You can't be like, hey man, I see like your BMI is getting up. Do you want to go to the gym? What's going on? Brev: you mean there's different ways you could say communicate things to everyone so there's a billion different ways to communicate things but JRD: Yeah. Brev: Nothing will motivate you more than the boys saying that you're fat. JRD: Hmm, I want to hear that. Nothing will motivate you more. Brev: Like when we started saying that, when we were talking about you and Mazracing, when were saying you guys were slow, bruh, nothing motivated you guys more than that shit. JRD: Nah, I haven't been training. Brev: Negative reinforcement with the boys, bro. Don: I wouldn't try to motivate you. JRD: I-I'm-I don't need motivation. I'm Josh and Ryan divorce. I'm Dustin Moss. Like, I'm-come on, like... Don: my gosh, bruh. And my little JRD: brah. Don: brother, he'd be tapped in, bro. Shout out little brother. Brev: Shout out. Don: He was saying that He doesn't know who's gonna win that race. But obviously he hasn't seen Brev: Yeah, I don't either still. Don: you guys. I think he's seen Moss maybe in person once. But he hasn't seen Josh. And just based off the videos, I forgot who he initially said, but no he's like basically a tossed up. But I think he was leaning more towards I think he was leaning JRD: He he was, he told me. Don: towards more towards Moss. Yeah. So you got some Brev: Hmm, I still don't know who I'm gonna put money on Don: You got some daughters out there, Josh. JRD: Okay, I love it. I love the scrutiny. I love it Don: mean it's not scrutiny, bro. You're shaped like Kirby, bro. Like it's it's only logical it's only logical to assume that you're not fat. JRD: I'm not sure that could be, said screw it, I love it, Mm-hmm. I'm a fat blog, I'm a fat blog, yes. Give it to me, I'm a flat blog. Brev: What have moths been trading on the low, bruh? JRD: I'm a fat blo- he better be tatted! Don: Moss is not fat either, bro. He's officially crossed Brev: Yeah, but what if he trained on the low? Don: over from the young and fit body usually people have to the dad body. He's transitioned to the dad body maybe Brev: Yeah Don: like four or five years ago, maybe. And then yeah, what is he like twenty eight now? So when he was twenty three, he got the dad bot. JRD: Yeah. He dead. Brev: Damn. Don: And you Josh, you got like the JRD: And I showed you a picture of me when I was 24 years old and you guys were calling me fat and I was in great shape. And then you guys just ignored it. You guys ignored it. Brev: The newborn, the newborn baby, Bob. JRD: You guys just ignored it. You just ignored it. It's okay. It's okay, bro. Don: AI slot bro, I don't fuck with AI, bro. JRD: It's a nice laugh. He cut it AI, Brev: Ha ha ha! JRD: that's crazy.