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- 0:01Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, May twenty third. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Akron game in exactly one hundred days, the
- 0:07game against Michigan in one hundred and ninety one days. Today is one of
- 0:10those days when I had a whole different show plan. We're going to talk
- 0:13all about the Drew Weatherford private equity thing and how that was probably like the
- 0:18worst idea in the history of college football. And then something Ethan Petter came
- 0:22along. Oh boy, Jim Harbaugh has a book coming out and it is
- 0:27full of stuff. We're gonna be talking with our buddy Tony Gurnaman about all
- 0:31that. Tony. The book is called The Price, What it Takes to
- 0:35Win in College Football's Era of Chaos. I almost don't know where to begin,
- 0:41but this is one of these things where sometimes you just read a paragraph
- 0:45and it's like, Okay, I get exactly where this book and these authors
- 0:50are coming from. Obviously, this is something of a book that Harbaugh is
- 0:54on board with, participated in. So this I think this paragraph, I
- 0:59think the tone here probably gives you good sense for where this book is coming
- 1:03from. I will read from an expert excerpt published on cbssports dot Com.
- 1:08At the end of a raucous National Championship parade before tens of thousands of adoring
- 1:12fans, Harbaugh drew to who his quirky, inquisitive nature invoked from memory part
- 1:18of the Saint Crispin's Day speech from King Henry the Fifth, as written by
- 1:21William Shakespeare, inserting as few of his stars at the top, JJ McCarthy,
- 1:25the MVP, Coram and Sangerstille, Kegan and Zenter, Jenkins and Barnett
- 1:30be in their flowing cups, freshly remembered. This story shall be, this
- 1:34story shall the good man teach his son and Crispin Crispians shall ne'er go by
- 1:38from this day to the ending of the world, But we in it will
- 1:42be remembered. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
- 1:46For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother. Be
- 1:49here ne'er so vile this day shall gentle his condition. And gentlemen in England
- 1:55now abed shall think themselves a curse that they were not here, and hold
- 1:59their manhood. She well any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
- 2:04In one we salute you, a band of brothers. Thank you,
- 2:09Tony, your thoughts, A lot of thoughts. Uh. One, if
- 2:19we're going to keep it to Shakespeare, can I please drink some poison?
- 2:23This is a bit much, But overall, you know, you see the
- 2:29story that the book and it's just as it says. A tiny excerpt written
- 2:32by Armine Catain and John Talty Tan is the many times New York New York
- 2:38Times bestseller. Talty is a college football reporter who has written books before,
- 2:43and so it's like, these are two very legitimate people. And then you
- 2:49see, like that the what it takes to win in college football's era of
- 2:53chaos, and you see like Jim Harbaugh's involved, and or they're talking to
- 2:59me. If you want to talk about the era of chaos, You're probably
- 3:02not going to be able to talk to Jim Harbaugh about the actual chaos.
- 3:07You're just going to be able to talk to him about what he's been through
- 3:12and and the story that he wants to to to give you in as much
- 3:16detail as he wants to give you. And so this whole thing, this
- 3:21this excerpt here is very very pro Harbaugh, and from his perspective and his
- 3:28attorney's perspective. And I didn't know that we needed to have some Shakespeare in
- 3:35here, but apparently we did. And that kind of just gives you an
- 3:39idea of boy, look at this, look at this man coming from the
- 3:45heart. Uh, clearly intelligent can recite things, and how could you,
- 3:53how could you think anything that that that that he would do anything wrong?
- 3:57And the rest of this excerpt continues, do you paint that as well?
- 4:01In my opinion, Yeah, so Saint Crispin's Day. The speech in the
- 4:05play is about a holiday that used to be celebrated in England. The Catholic
- 4:11Church basically removed it from the calendar in Vatican. To Harbaugh, well more
- 4:15of an old school Catholic. Apparently, this is a feast that celebrated twins
- 4:19that were martyred in the year two eighty six, and the theme of martyrdom
- 4:25Tony kind of continues throughout this book. Excerpt. This is an excerpt quoting
- 4:32Tom Mars, Harbaugh's attorney, who has been an attorney around college football quite
- 4:36a bit. Quote. I will tell you this, said Mars. I
- 4:40told Harbaugh's agent Don Yee and Jim as clearly as I could, more than
- 4:44once more than twice that, in my opinion, if he stayed at Michigan,
- 4:46the COI, which is the Community Committee on Infractions from the NCAA,
- 4:51is going to punish Jim under the vicarious coaches responsibility and legislation. And he's
- 4:56dealing with a COI that's clearly manifested bias against him. He's going to sit
- 5:00out four games, maybe six, and whatever we do, the COI is
- 5:02going to find him guilty. I think my big takeaway from this not only
- 5:09is Jim Harbaugh the victim, but Jim Harball, the head of the Michigan
- 5:13coach, the Michigan football program for a decade, feels like this is just
- 5:18a person whose stuff is happening to and stuff is happening around and it's just
- 5:23he's like this NPC just like, well, I'm just I'm here, but
- 5:27all you know, all the other people, this is just happening around me,
- 5:29and I'm just here and there's nothing I can do about any clearly,
- 5:33and the Committee on Infractions has a clearly manifested bias against him based on evidence
- 5:44I'm assuming that they have found. And so I guess any any good defense
- 5:49lawyer would say, you know if we can just pick up and leave,
- 5:54let's do that. You know what, we're down here at court your honor,
- 5:58have a good day. We're no longer going to participate. We're going
- 6:00to go to the NFL. And that you're never going to lose a case
- 6:03like that if you just walk out on it. And so you've got that.
- 6:09It is a very it paints him very much as a victim. And
- 6:13when when you talk about like the story, the gist of the book is
- 6:17how to win in college football's era of chaos, right, And so it
- 6:24paints this in my opinion, and the way I'm reading it is like Jim
- 6:28Harbaugh was able to win like this when they were He was able to overcome
- 6:32all of these things that people were doing to him and still lead his team
- 6:36to a national title. And he's like, wow, you know it is
- 6:40crazy, nil transfer, portal, all of that. Man, it's just
- 6:43a crazy time. And then you got the Committee on Infractions trying to bust
- 6:47up your joint for whatever, and boy, you're you're able to do deal
- 6:51with that and still in a national title. And so he was like a
- 6:56championing what he was able to accomplish with out acknowledging that he was creating or
- 7:02was allowed this nest of this rat king to develop underneath them and get all
- 7:11tangled. And you've got the NCAA involved, and you've got the NCAA,
- 7:16you know, wanting text messages, winning emails, constantly knocking on your doors,
- 7:20really just really really being annoying. And he overcame that he was able
- 7:26to overcome the annoying NCAAA and and also Tom, an annoying athletic director who
- 7:31clearly didn't have his back ward manual does not come off great in this,
- 7:35which if you were reading a book from Jim Harbaugh's perspective, yeah, you
- 7:40would expect ward manual would probably not come off great in this. And you
- 7:44know, Manuel, if you were coming at it from not Jim Harbaugh's perspective,
- 7:46does feel like a little bit of a sympathetic figure, where, you
- 7:49know, he talks about the fact that he wants to bring Harball back,
- 7:51but Harball has looked, you know, flirted the NFL three years in a
- 7:55row and is very clearly interested in going to the NFL again. Here and
- 7:58they put a big contract on the table, and oh, boy, tony
- 8:01boy, how many times did we hear how badly Jim Harbaugh wanted to sign
- 8:05that, but oh he just couldn't do it. And it's just, oh,
- 8:07these one little thing and just the small, the small issues of well,
- 8:09hey, if I, you know, face major NCAA sanctions as a
- 8:13result of my actions, you know, could I be punished for that?
- 8:16Or can I just get all of my money please? Anyway, small issues
- 8:20like that. There was also, you mentioned very briefly there, the NCAA
- 8:26request for cell phone records. That was maybe the single most interesting piece of
- 8:31this whole thing in terms of a little bit of how the sausage is getting
- 8:33made behind the scenes. Of course, the nc DOABLEA is still in that
- 8:35investigatory process trying to figure out where things stand with that Connors Dallion's investigation.
- 8:41It says, in the wake of the Connors Dallion Science Sealing investigation, NCAA
- 8:46enforcement had made yet another sweeping request for Harbaugh's school issued and personal cell phone
- 8:50records, danging back eighteen months. In response, Harball's attorney, Tom Mahers
- 8:54wrote a stinging email saying he would need to review six and ninety nine emails
- 8:58plus texts, and oh, by the way, your request is illegal.
- 9:01Under Michagan employment and privacy laws, quote outrageous and offensive and without probable cause
- 9:05was quote uh. And it wasn't just Harball. The NCUBA had demanded similar
- 9:09records from the entire coaching staff, only to drop that request. So I
- 9:13guess that might be the single most interesting piece of information in all of this,
- 9:18because I think, you know, there were there were lots of people
- 9:20who were you know, sort of professionally absolutely mystified that what, why why
- 9:26hasn't he signed his Why hasn't he signed his contract? And it's like,
- 9:28well as the because he would like to beat the posse out of town that
- 9:33was that was pretty clearly the explanation back then. That has pretty clearly been
- 9:35laid out as the explanation now. I'm sure there will be lots of clutching
- 9:39of pearls and shock among people who were so sure he loved dear old alma
- 9:43mater so much that why wouldn't he come back? I don't know, I
- 9:46just don't understand. But other than that, I feel like this maybe is
- 9:52you know, one of these one of a really interesting look inside what you
- 9:56know, what that investigation is trying to do, and maybe where that investment
- 10:00gation is going to get hamstrung a little bit in terms of trying to get
- 10:03down to the truth. And you know Jim Harbaugh's long protestations about how he
- 10:09never he knew, never knew anything about anything about you know, he knew
- 10:11he knew nothing about nothing for you know, for the whole multiple year process
- 10:15of the counter science saying you know that may be something that really hamstrings the
- 10:20investigation to a certain degree that you know, well, sure we would love
- 10:22to, but we can't. And also it's illegal, and also how dare
- 10:26you? And also good night, everybody, don't call us again. And
- 10:31now your your number is now blocked on all of the Hartboss cell phones,
- 10:37so you can't even get a hold of them if you wanted to. Uh.
- 10:39There. There's other portions of this as well that really paint Harbaugh and
- 10:48a champion light and Ward Manual and in a different light. And one of
- 10:52the paragraphs is talking about how Jim Harborugh is talking to a longtime friend and
- 10:58he tells us long friend, longtime friend, he wants to remain at Michigan,
- 11:03but believe Ward Manual would not be the advocate he needed in his corner
- 11:07and how many times have we heard this from you know, whether it's a
- 11:11reporting or fans just putting Ward Manual as the bad guy on all of this,
- 11:16when what Manual has been trying has been putting a contract in front of
- 11:20Jim Harbaugh through this this entire time with a rolling number of making him eleven
- 11:26million dollars a year or whatever, and just you know what, I'm not
- 11:31going to sign it was advised by attorneys. You know what, Hey,
- 11:37if you do sign it, there's going to be some MINSIA infractions because of
- 11:39again this bias. And so maybe maybe just end up doing what you've been
- 11:46trying to do for the last three years and head off to the sunset in
- 11:48the NFL, and which was no surprise when it eventually went that way.
- 11:52But the if you don't have to give up information, you don't have to
- 11:56give up text messages, and if you don't have to possibly incriminate yourself you
- 12:01don't know what's on that probably nothing. If you can just avoid that altogether
- 12:05and then head off see and also then make like sixteen million dollars a year
- 12:11for however many number of years, it seems like the smart decision, and
- 12:15yet it was still portrayed in a way as like, yeah, boy,
- 12:18I'd really like to leave, but this Ward manual, he's really chapping my
- 12:20butt. Well, The Price What it Takes to Winning College Football's Era of
- 12:26Chaos will release on August twenty seventh. The Notice of Allegations from the nca
- 12:31DOUABLEA, we'll release on taate TBD. We will I'm sure be following both
- 12:35of those releases very closely when they get closer. Give me a lot to
- 12:39talk about. And this is going to be a fascinating conversation. As much
- 12:43as this everyone wants to kind of handwave this and tell you it's it's all
- 12:46going to go away, and it's not. You know, this is not
- 12:48going to be nothing. We'll find out. We'll find out how nothing or
- 12:52not nothing it is when the Notice of Allegations comes out, and then of
- 12:54course the NCAA punishment or punishments whatever they end up being, you know,
- 12:58say to eight months after that. We will find it all, and whenever
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