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Matt Shingledecker & Kristen Slaper - 911 Climb Honoring and Celebrating First Responders · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  Hey, hey, chill.
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  Let's go.
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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to the Clydesdale
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  media podcast where today
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  we have a we have a couple
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  special guests and a
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  special topic because today
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  is all around first
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  responders and nine eleven
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  and a program that started
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  here in ohio um and has
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  grown exponentially in a
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  short amount of time uh
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  called the climb and so I
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  have matt shingledecker
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  And Kristen Sleeper with me?
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  Did I get that right?
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  Okay.
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  You did.
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  And Kristen is the Director
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  of Law Enforcement
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  Initiatives here in the state of Ohio.
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  And Matt Shingledecker,
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  if you don't know him,
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  longstanding OG CrossFitter
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  and is doing amazing things
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  with his affiliate,
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  helping people in all aspects of life,
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  make a better life using
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  crossfit as that model so
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  with these welcome first of
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  all welcome to both of you
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  thank you brother
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  So, Matt,
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  I've known Matt since twenty
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  fourteen Cincinnati
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  regionals when we were
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  volunteering together at
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  the at the regional level of CrossFit,
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  the sport.
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  And we got put on the same
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  team back then and and been
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  friends ever since.
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  And it's been an awesome experience.
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  And I got to know Kristen
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  just five minutes ago.
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  So I want to dive into the climb.
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  This started a year ago,
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  and it started because you
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  had relationships already
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  because some other
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  initiatives you had started.
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  So Matt, walk us through that.
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  Yeah, so we,
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  myself and my business partner,
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  Debbie Wagner, we co-own CrossFit,
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  this nice little gym behind us here.
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  We started working,
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  we've been working with the state for,
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  The better part of seven
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  years in working with
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  juveniles in the juvenile system,
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  using CrossFit for that rehabilitation.
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  Right.
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  And that has put us in
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  contact with a lot of
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  pretty important people.
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  One of those being Director Andy Wilson.
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  So Andy is the director of
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  public safety prior to that.
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  He was director of law for
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  Governor DeWine.
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  And he came alongside of us to say,
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  you know, hey,
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  this juvenile program that
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  you've got is pretty successful.
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  How do we learn more about that?
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  And how do we spread that
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  throughout the state of Ohio?
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  We've got eighty eight
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  counties and we've got one
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  program that's keeping
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  recidivism rates in the
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  twenty percent range or
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  twenty three percent range,
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  which is one of the lowest
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  ranges across the nation.
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  How do we expand that?
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  So that took us on a journey.
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  to start working with more
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  people inside of the state to say, okay,
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  here's a program that is
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  both mental and physical
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  tied together that, that creates success.
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  And whether it's CrossFit or any type of,
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  I would say any type of
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  organized functional
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  movement that's coach led is,
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  is really the perfect
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  mixture of what makes success.
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  It doesn't necessarily have
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  to be in a CrossFit gym,
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  Um,
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  we use that model because it's
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  successful for us,
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  but as long as it's coach
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  led and it's community
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  surrounded or community developed,
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  that's where the success comes from.
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  So we, um,
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  started working with Andy in the
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  state highway patrol.
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  So two years ago, uh,
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  almost three years ago now,
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  Andy wanted to do Murph
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  with the state highway patrol cadets.
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  Um, so Andy's a CrossFitter, um,
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  knew it well.
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  Hey,
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  how do we get the cadets ready to do
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  full blown Merc?
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  So he and I and Debbie worked together on,
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  we'd go to the Academy
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  every Friday morning for
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  about two months and train
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  these cadets on how to do Merc.
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  We did that first year and
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  it was a huge success.
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  We partnered with Rogue.
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  We had it at the Rogue facility.
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  Um, it went over really, really well.
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  Um, from that standpoint, um, Andy's like,
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  okay,
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  How do we grow this?
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  How do we really involve the
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  heart of this state when it
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  comes to our first responders?
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  How do we involve everyone?
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  And we were sitting at a
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  table at the police academy
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  or there at the Ohio State
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  Patrol Academy.
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  And Debbie was like, well,
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  why don't we do something
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  around nine eleven?
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  Perfect.
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  Right.
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  There are four hundred and
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  twelve first responders
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  that passed during nine eleven.
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  And how do we.
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  Honor those that have fallen.
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  Also pay tribute to and
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  respect those that are are
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  in the field today.
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  Well, let's come together on nine eleven.
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  Pretty important.
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  A lot of CrossFit people
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  already do a memorial
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  workout in that time.
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  Why don't we try to
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  collectively create
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  something that all first
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  responders can do,
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  regardless of your skill or
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  ability or your location?
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  So the nine eleven climb was created.
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  We worked a little bit with
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  Rich Froning on creating
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  the actual workout.
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  And that first year, Kristen,
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  what did we have, like a week?
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  Last year,
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  because it was one of those things like,
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  hey, this is a great idea.
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  And if anyone knows Director Wilson well,
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  he's all in.
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  And once it's on,
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  just get out of the way
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  because it's going to make it happen.
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  So we kind of threw this
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  together last year in a
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  very short amount of time.
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  This year,
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  we've had quite a bit more lead up to it.
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  And we're trying to make it bigger than,
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  you know, bigger next year,
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  even than what it is this year.
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  I'll let Tristan jump in on
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  kind of the state side of
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  what this event means for
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  first responders and maybe
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  what Tristan can explain a
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  little bit about, you know,
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  her job and what her
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  responsibilities are.
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  But that's kind of the start
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  of what we have today.
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  Yeah,
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  so as the Director of Law Enforcement
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  Initiatives,
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  I have a bunch of different
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  programs under me.
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  But as Matt said,
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  Director Wilson and
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  Governor DeWine both are
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  very intent on helping
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  first responders in any way
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  and public safety in general.
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  So I have both law enforcement recruitment
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  and first responder wellness.
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  The Office of First
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  Responder Wellness started
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  a few years ago and the
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  focus has largely been the
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  mental health side, which as you know,
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  is very important to
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  address and to get at that
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  stigma and to get people
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  talking and to help with
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  the resources that we can.
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  We are moving into more now
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  the physical wellness and
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  physical health side.
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  and trying to pair physical
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  and mental wellness
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  together because we're
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  trying to really address
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  whole person health.
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  And when you think about first responders,
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  they are the people that
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  are helping other people all the time.
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  And who's taking care of
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  them really is kind of the
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  focus of my office.
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  And in partnerships with
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  Matt and Debbie and others,
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  we're trying to find ways
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  to bring resources to first
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  responders in the state.
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  So the nine-eleven climb, I'll be honest,
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  my first week that I worked
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  for the Department of
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  Public Safety was the week of the MRF.
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  And luckily,
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  Director Wilson had asked me a
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  few weeks in advance if I
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  wanted to participate.
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  So I got a little bit of
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  prep time because I'm not a CrossFitter.
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  I'm actually a runner.
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  um so I prepped for that and
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  kind of saw the energy
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  around that and just the
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  camaraderie and the
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  teamwork that went into it
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  and then we started talking
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  about the nine eleven event
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  um and last year we did and
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  matt's right we kept it
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  very fairly small we kept
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  it to the cadets and the
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  academy staff for the
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  highway patrol um and then
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  a few others and then it was kind of
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  once we were done with it,
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  it was this was a great success.
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  What can we do now?
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  And how can we make this bigger?
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  And Director Wilson, of course,
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  is always challenging us like,
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  like Matt said,
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  so throwing throwing audibles, curveballs,
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  all those things.
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  But this year,
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  we turned our focus a little bit more to
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  How we can incorporate
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  people both in the in-person event, also,
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  of course,
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  the CrossFit affiliates or any
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  gym or any first responder
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  place of business.
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  So a post or the firehouse or whatever,
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  or even people doing it at
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  their house with their family.
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  One of the things that we
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  know is that sometimes
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  people can be a little bit
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  hesitant about doing CrossFit.
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  And so one of the pushes
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  that I made this year was
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  to try to incorporate more
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  than just CrossFit.
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  So we're gonna have people that can walk,
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  that can climb stairs,
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  we're gonna do yoga.
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  We're really trying to make,
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  trying to address whole person health.
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  And, you know,
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  of course the mental side
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  and the physical side, and we just,
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  you know, the director said the other day,
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  he wants people to come and
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  stand shoulder to shoulder,
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  And do this and, you know,
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  forty one minutes and
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  twenty seconds dedicated to
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  those four hundred and
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  twelve first responders
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  that lost their lives.
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  That's right.
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  That's incredible.
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  You said that when you first
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  started this job that you
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  weren't a CrossFitter,
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  but I look behind you.
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  I see barbells.
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  I see plates on the wall.
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  Are you in a garage gym now?
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  I'm actually in my home gym
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  um and my husband so when
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  covid hit um my husband
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  started buying all the
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  things from rogue and ref
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  and and all of those and
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  and every every time like
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  every couple months now
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  he's like I have this new
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  piece of equipment that I
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  want to buy and it's just
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  okay go ahead but yeah we
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  have a pretty nice setup in
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  our basement um still not a
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  crossfitter but I give it a
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  try every now and then yeah
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  why the poster
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  Oh,
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  the poster that actually was a poster
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  in the movie theater in
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  where my husband grew up.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know if he was in
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  high school or whatever.
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  And he told his mom that he
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  really wanted the poster.
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  And she was,
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  my mother-in-law's just a
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  gracious human being.
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  She went back to the movie
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  theater and said,
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  how much can I buy that for?
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  And I think they charged her like,
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  thirty bucks or something like that.
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  But that's kind of the focal point.
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  I love it.
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  And of course, you know,
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  support law enforcement, right,
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  with bad boys.
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  So, Matt,
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  what are the chances we get her
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  to be a full CrossFitter as
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  these years go on?
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  Well, so, you know, if you see the barbell,
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  she's already doing
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  CrossFit style workouts,
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  whether she calls it CrossFit.
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  The challenge is, and I think,
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  I'm not sure,
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  I'm going to put her on the spot.
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  She keeps asking me when we
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  go for Wednesday to do the event.
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  So there is a live portion of this event.
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  Um, that, uh, that is an invite portion.
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  So when we go there,
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  I typically do myself and several others,
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  Debbie and Dale King.
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  And we'll talk about that in a minute.
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  Um,
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  we'll do the event at six AM and then
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  everyone will come and kick off there.
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  The, the, uh, old crew stadium at eight.
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  And I think.
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  Tristan is going to join us
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  for that CrossFit workout at six.
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  I'm not sure yet.
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  I'm not putting her on the spot.
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  Look, I will join you.
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  I am the mother of three kids.
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  So every day I have to
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  schedule out what time I
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  have to be where and whatever.
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  And so I've already in my
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  head and I've already told my husband,
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  I got to leave here by five
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  thirty on Wednesday morning.
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  Right.
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  I'll be there, Matt.
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  Scott, she will be a CrossFitter for that.
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  That's the beauty of CrossFit, right?
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  It's infinitely scalable.
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  That's right.
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  It doesn't matter if you're
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  the mother of three kids or twelve kids.
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  You can CrossFit just like the rest of us.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, so anyway, so...
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  So first you talk about Rich
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  programming this for you.
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  Is this year the same
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  workout as it was last year?
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  And how easy was it to get
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  Rich to write this workout?
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  Took about fifteen minutes.
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  So through, yes, this is the same workout.
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  As a part of the Expanding
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  Horizons Juvenile Probation
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  Program and our trauma training,
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  we've partnered with Mayhem
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  several years ago.
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  And how do we grow that program?
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  How do we get the word out?
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  How do we get the message out?
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  You know, for us, it's a, it's a,
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  it's a God led heartfelt
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  mission and who better in
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  this world to partner with
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  than Rich and Jake Lockhart
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  and Jimmy Hensel and that whole team.
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  So we were down there
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  actually for a meeting with
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  Rich and Jake and that whole group.
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  When this thing dropped, you know,
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  a year ago and, you know,
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  director Wilson's like, Hey Debbie,
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  great idea.
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  Thumbs up.
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  Let's do the nine, a lot of them event.
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  We're like,
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  Oh, my God.
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  OK, now we got to come up with a workout.
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  So we literally asked, you know,
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  Froning and Rich is like, yeah,
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  give me fifteen minutes.
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  They came back and he's like, here you go.
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  Here's the movie.
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  Here's the movements.
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  Here's the scaling.
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  Here's everything like, OK,
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  that's perfect.
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  And, you know, like Kristen said,
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  I think it's great that this year.
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  as she said, is expanding.
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  We want to involve as many
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  people as possible.
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  So yes,
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  you can come and do the functional
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  movements.
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  You can come in and do the
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  CrossFit workout or call it
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  functional fitness,
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  whatever you want to call it.
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  Or you can walk or you can do yoga.
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  The goal of there,
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  the goal really is you're
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  there with others.
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  If you think about what she said with Andy,
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  community that surrounds
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  these people is the most important thing.
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  Without community, we have nothing.
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  We can never do anything on our own.
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  And
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  what we find in,
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  in whole health and
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  wellness is especially in
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  the first responder,
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  brother and sisterhood is
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  there's a lot of isolation,
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  too much isolation,
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  especially coming out of COVID.
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  And the goal is to break
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  that isolation down and get
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  people to come back together.
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  And we prefer to do in a, you know,
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  in some type of a physical format.
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  So that's the rich froning.
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  That's the side of it.
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  That's how long it took him.
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  I think the,
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  The cool thing about this project,
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  you know,
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  last year we had a couple of
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  weeks to get it around.
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  This year, working with Kristen,
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  it's been a completely
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  different show for us.
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  It's been very precise and
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  very programmed and everything,
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  every step along the way,
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  it seems like it's already,
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  everything's been taken care of.
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  And Kristen has done a great
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  job with that.
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  The biggest gap I think we
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  had is we didn't really
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  know who participated last year.
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  We had no idea.
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  We sent flyers out.
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  We tried to get as many people involved.
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  We tried to call as many
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  CrossFit owners as we could
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  in email to say, hey,
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  let's see if you can get
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  your first responder
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  offices involved with this.
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  But we had no way of tracking.
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  So that was one of the things this year.
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  Like, how do we track this?
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  So Emily Kaplan and BSI and Dale King,
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  who you know,
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  real well.
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  And Kristen knows real well,
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  came alongside and said, Hey, let us,
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  you know,
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  let us help you through that process.
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  You know,
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  the goal that Emily and Dale and BSI has,
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  you know,
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  at the heart of it is how do we
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  get the right information
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  to the right people,
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  the correct information,
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  not what people want you to hear.
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  What's the,
• 16:00
  what's the true story behind medicine,
• 16:04
  behind functional fitness,
• 16:05
  behind everything that's
• 16:06
  health and wellness.
• 16:08
  And then at the root of it,
• 16:10
  Everything that was created originally,
• 16:13
  if you think about CrossFit
• 16:15
  in its original format,
• 16:16
  was for first responders.
• 16:18
  It was for military first responders.
• 16:20
  And that's, I think, from Emily.
• 16:22
  I don't want to put words in
• 16:23
  Emily and Dale's mouth.
• 16:24
  But if you think about the
• 16:25
  true meaning behind what
• 16:27
  they do is ultimately to help.
• 16:30
  those men and women in blue
• 16:32
  that are out there every
• 16:33
  day serving our community,
• 16:35
  whether it's police, fire, EMS, dispatch,
• 16:40
  anyone that works in that public service,
• 16:44
  that's who we want to
• 16:45
  surround ourselves with.
• 16:46
  And I think at the root of it, Kristen,
• 16:47
  that's your heart.
• 16:49
  So just a shout out to BSI
• 16:51
  and what they've been able
• 16:52
  to do to create a link and
• 16:53
  help us get the word out.
• 16:56
  So as someone who's worked
• 16:58
  for the state of Ohio for
• 16:59
  twenty one years,
• 17:00
  one thing I know is we use
• 17:02
  too many acronyms.
• 17:03
  So BSI stands for Broken
• 17:05
  Science Initiative.
• 17:06
  That's right.
• 17:07
  If you're new to this and
• 17:09
  Broken Science Initiative
• 17:11
  is the program that Greg Glassman,
• 17:14
  Emily Kaplan started.
• 17:16
  And now Dale King is a big
• 17:18
  part of and and basically
• 17:21
  trying to get the truth out as to.
• 17:24
  um, what's really happening with science.
• 17:27
  Um,
• 17:27
  and they have partnered with you and
• 17:29
  the client to give like a
• 17:31
  registration link.
• 17:33
  So, you know,
• 17:34
  exactly who has signed up for
• 17:36
  this program.
• 17:37
  And that was, that was big for us because,
• 17:40
  you know,
• 17:41
  going back to what we'd said
• 17:42
  about last year,
• 17:42
  we just didn't know who participated.
• 17:44
  Um,
• 17:45
  and we wanted to be able to track that.
• 17:48
  We want to,
• 17:48
  we want to be able to say thank
• 17:50
  you to those that jumped in and then
• 17:53
  What are ways we can grow this?
• 17:58
  How do we have every
• 18:00
  firehouse and every police
• 18:02
  station have this on their
• 18:04
  calendar so they can do it in the office?
• 18:08
  They can do it at home.
• 18:10
  They can find a CrossFit
• 18:11
  affiliate or any gym for
• 18:13
  that matter that says, hey,
• 18:15
  for forty one minutes and twenty seconds,
• 18:17
  we want to come together and move.
• 18:22
  When we do that, we share that suffering,
• 18:24
  so to speak with others.
• 18:25
  It, it creates, it changes us mentally,
• 18:28
  right?
• 18:29
  It creates that bonding
• 18:30
  through shared suffering
• 18:32
  that allows us to maybe
• 18:34
  break the walls of
• 18:35
  isolation down just a little bit.
• 18:37
  Um, you know, let's be honest.
• 18:39
  We, what we find in,
• 18:42
  in our facility and other
• 18:44
  facilities like it,
• 18:46
  people that come through
• 18:47
  our doors when they're having a tough day,
• 18:49
  they're probably
• 18:51
  more often than not ready to
• 18:54
  talk to their coach or the
• 18:58
  individual that they just
• 18:59
  shared suffering for an
• 19:00
  hour with about their
• 19:02
  struggles before they go
• 19:03
  home and take it to their
• 19:04
  spouse or take it to their
• 19:06
  workplace or take it to their boss.
• 19:09
  And that shared suffering
• 19:11
  creates a bond that,
• 19:13
  that is unlike anything else.
• 19:15
  So when you couple that with
• 19:17
  the mental awareness of, Hey,
• 19:21
  I'm not the only one struggling here.
• 19:24
  I know you're probably
• 19:25
  struggling with something as well.
• 19:27
  You create something much
• 19:28
  bigger than yourself.
• 19:30
  And what we're finding,
• 19:31
  and Kristen can probably
• 19:33
  talk to this way better than I can,
• 19:35
  we're not seeing that in
• 19:37
  the first responder brother
• 19:40
  and sisterhood today.
• 19:41
  There's a lot of self-isolation.
• 19:44
  Well,
• 19:44
  that was actually my next question
• 19:46
  was for Kristen, and that is that
• 19:49
  one of the reasons this
• 19:50
  started is to first
• 19:52
  responders are the backbone
• 19:53
  of this country.
• 19:55
  Like they are there to save
• 19:57
  all of our lives.
• 19:59
  And it sounds like that
• 20:00
  you're the state of Ohio
• 20:02
  wanted to jump in because
• 20:05
  what you care about is the
• 20:06
  health and wellness of your
• 20:08
  first responders.
• 20:09
  And how do we bring
• 20:10
  awareness to that in a way
• 20:13
  that promotes physical fitness?
• 20:15
  Am I, am I on the mark?
• 20:18
  Yeah, I think that, again,
• 20:22
  there's a lot about mental health
• 20:26
  And there are a lot of
• 20:27
  programs out there to
• 20:28
  address that and address
• 20:30
  things in a reactive sense.
• 20:31
  Right.
• 20:32
  So somebody goes on a
• 20:33
  critical incident and they, you know,
• 20:36
  it's a really terrible
• 20:37
  situation or whatever.
• 20:38
  They have peer support after the fact,
• 20:41
  you know,
• 20:41
  somebody to talk to or they
• 20:43
  might be referred to go to
• 20:45
  counseling or something
• 20:46
  like that or therapists.
• 20:48
  And there are some people
• 20:50
  and first responders,
• 20:51
  especially law enforcement,
• 20:53
  are a group of people that
• 20:54
  just won't do that.
• 20:56
  And, you know, they put up their shield,
• 20:59
  they put that uniform back on,
• 21:00
  they go back the next day
• 21:01
  and they're tough, right?
• 21:02
  And they have to be.
• 21:03
  And again, first responders,
• 21:05
  any of them are responding
• 21:06
  to people on their worst day.
• 21:09
  And then they're doing it a
• 21:10
  few minutes later on the
• 21:11
  next call that they get.
• 21:13
  And it's that the whole
• 21:14
  issue is who's taking care of them,
• 21:16
  who's giving them time and
• 21:18
  giving them space and also
• 21:19
  addressing what their needs are.
• 21:22
  Because like Matt is referring to,
• 21:25
  they may not want to talk to somebody,
• 21:27
  but they may want to go to
• 21:28
  a gym or a facility.
• 21:30
  and, you know, run a few miles,
• 21:32
  do some CrossFit, heaven forbid,
• 21:34
  they want to do some burpees.
• 21:37
  But, you know, they,
• 21:38
  they may want to use the
• 21:40
  physical side as an outlet,
• 21:43
  as opposed to talking to
• 21:44
  somebody about it,
• 21:45
  because maybe there's just
• 21:46
  less stigma attached to going to the gym.
• 21:50
  And so our,
• 21:51
  our goal and our focus is
• 21:52
  really to address
• 21:54
  all of those things and and
• 21:56
  whole person you know one
• 21:57
  thing that we don't talk
• 21:58
  enough about is first
• 21:59
  responders sleep and how
• 22:01
  much sleep they get and
• 22:02
  their nutrition and what
• 22:03
  they're eating you know
• 22:04
  they're sitting in a patrol
• 22:05
  car all day driving around
• 22:07
  they're sitting in a
• 22:07
  dispatch you know behind a
• 22:09
  desk at the dispatch site
• 22:10
  and they're they're taking
• 22:11
  these phone calls all day
• 22:13
  and are they getting up and
• 22:14
  moving you know physically
• 22:15
  moving or whatever so with
• 22:17
  this event and moving
• 22:18
  forward like we would like to address
• 22:22
  whole person health and find
• 22:24
  ways to bring resources to
• 22:26
  first responders around the
• 22:28
  state of Ohio.
• 22:29
  And there just aren't enough
• 22:31
  in a proactive sense like
• 22:33
  that to build that
• 22:34
  resiliency and to address
• 22:36
  those physical needs.
• 22:38
  There just aren't enough
• 22:39
  programs out there yet.
• 22:40
  And so this this climb and our, you know,
• 22:43
  the Office of First
• 22:43
  Responder Wellness are two
• 22:45
  of the things that we're
• 22:46
  going to utilize to try to
• 22:47
  bring those resources if we can.
• 22:50
  So Matt,
• 22:51
  last year this was a very
• 22:52
  Ohio-centric campaign.
• 22:55
  With Broken Science
• 22:56
  Initiative creating a
• 22:58
  registration portal for you guys,
• 23:01
  naturally that's made it
• 23:03
  more of a nationwide event.
• 23:05
  Have you had directors from
• 23:07
  other agencies across the
• 23:09
  country reach out to you
• 23:10
  about this event?
• 23:12
  So we've had other facilities,
• 23:14
  other CrossFit affiliates
• 23:15
  reach out and sign up to host.
• 23:18
  And we've talked to Denver.
• 23:22
  So Debbie and I work with
• 23:24
  the state of Colorado and
• 23:27
  particularly Denver County, Colorado.
• 23:29
  And we've worked with them.
• 23:30
  They are going to
• 23:31
  participate in this event as well.
• 23:34
  So it's starting to spread
• 23:37
  slowly but surely.
• 23:38
  And if you think,
• 23:39
  I want to go back to what Kristen said,
• 23:42
  about how do we why do we
• 23:45
  want people to move why do
• 23:47
  we feel that tying the
• 23:49
  mental health along with
• 23:51
  the physical health is the
• 23:53
  best way to do it and and I
• 23:55
  would say that all that the
• 23:56
  proof is in the pudding if
• 23:57
  you look at what dale king
• 24:00
  has done with um with the
• 24:02
  addiction services that he provides
• 24:05
  And the background that Dale
• 24:06
  has in successfully working
• 24:11
  with individuals through
• 24:14
  mental health and wellness
• 24:17
  provides success.
• 24:18
  You look at the program that we run,
• 24:21
  you know, for seven years,
• 24:22
  we've run a track record of
• 24:23
  twenty three percent recidivism rate.
• 24:25
  in juveniles,
• 24:26
  which typically is in the
• 24:27
  seventy or eighty percent,
• 24:29
  meaning seventy percent of
• 24:30
  the time a youth comes off for probation,
• 24:34
  they're right back on
• 24:34
  probation in years one, three or five.
• 24:38
  Right.
• 24:39
  And Dale has the same success.
• 24:41
  If you look at what Dale and
• 24:43
  BSI and that group is doing
• 24:46
  and what we're doing,
• 24:47
  the numbers are there.
• 24:49
  So Greg Glassman always used to say, hey,
• 24:53
  I can't tell you about CrossFit.
• 24:54
  Just come in and give it six months.
• 24:56
  I don't care if it's CrossFit or not.
• 24:58
  Find a organized group of
• 25:01
  individuals that's led by a
• 25:03
  coach that provides a
• 25:06
  physical outlet where you
• 25:09
  can share that suffering,
• 25:11
  whether you're walking or
• 25:11
  doing yoga or doing
• 25:13
  functional movement at some
• 25:15
  type of intensity.
• 25:16
  where you can share that
• 25:17
  together and give it six months.
• 25:19
  And I guarantee your life
• 25:20
  will be different.
• 25:22
  And that's what we need
• 25:23
  first responders to do.
• 25:25
  We need to, like she said,
• 25:27
  they put on that shield every day, right?
• 25:30
  But that shield on the other
• 25:31
  side probably has cracks in it.
• 25:33
  And those cracks lead to
• 25:35
  devastation if not taken care of.
• 25:38
  And we're trying to do that
• 25:40
  by bringing people together
• 25:42
  in this initiative.
• 25:45
  So Kristin, I have a follow up to you.
• 25:47
  You have this one big event
• 25:49
  every nine eleven to
• 25:51
  promote awareness to this.
• 25:53
  What are the steps from that
• 25:55
  day to make it make it
• 25:58
  stick throughout the three
• 25:59
  hundred and sixty four other days?
• 26:01
  I think that's a great question,
• 26:04
  and I don't know that I
• 26:05
  have an answer to it,
• 26:06
  but I think that it needs to be routine.
• 26:11
  movement, whether it's events, you know,
• 26:14
  there's obviously this is a big event.
• 26:17
  But what about, you know,
• 26:18
  monthly events or challenges.
• 26:20
  So one of the things that my
• 26:23
  office started a couple
• 26:25
  months ago was we just
• 26:26
  started a physical fitness
• 26:27
  challenge for the month.
• 26:29
  And
• 26:30
  again that is that you're
• 26:32
  kind of standing shoulder
• 26:33
  to shoulder or you're doing
• 26:34
  push-ups right next to each
• 26:35
  other in the office or
• 26:36
  squats or whatever it is um
• 26:39
  but it's a challenge right
• 26:40
  and it gets people talking
• 26:42
  it gets people moving um
• 26:43
  and also you know
• 26:44
  addressing other things
• 26:46
  like breathing you know how
• 26:48
  that that can improve your
• 26:49
  sleep or whatever grounding
• 26:51
  and how that can just
• 26:52
  improve your overall mental
• 26:54
  and physical health and I think that
• 26:56
  Making it a routine is
• 26:59
  something that we're going
• 27:00
  to be pretty diligent about.
• 27:03
  Not sure what that looks like.
• 27:04
  I don't know how many more
• 27:05
  workouts everybody can come up with.
• 27:08
  And if they include burpees, you know,
• 27:09
  I may not do them.
• 27:10
  But, you know,
• 27:12
  I think it has to be
• 27:14
  dedicated time and energy
• 27:17
  to all of wellness and health.
• 27:22
  And I think that's what my
• 27:23
  office is hopefully going
• 27:24
  to be focused on.
• 27:26
  So I'm going to dive a little deeper.
• 27:28
  Has there been any thought
• 27:29
  to partnering with
• 27:32
  different gyms or partnering with,
• 27:35
  you know,
• 27:35
  there's these programming apps
• 27:37
  out there that send a
• 27:38
  workout of the day every day,
• 27:40
  partnering with them that, you know,
• 27:42
  the state police force get
• 27:45
  to use this at a discounted
• 27:47
  rate or whatever,
• 27:49
  or things of that nature to
• 27:52
  promote fitness beyond this one day?
• 27:56
  Yeah,
• 27:57
  there are a lot of apps that are
• 27:59
  available.
• 28:00
  There are agencies that
• 28:02
  actually use those apps.
• 28:03
  One of them is the Cordico app.
• 28:05
  And it's really,
• 28:06
  there's so many different
• 28:08
  law enforcement and first
• 28:09
  responder agencies that
• 28:10
  addressing it holistically
• 28:12
  is somewhat difficult.
• 28:15
  But I think that that is
• 28:17
  definitely something that
• 28:18
  we could explore.
• 28:19
  And one of the things that
• 28:20
  we're asking through this
• 28:23
  event is for local agencies
• 28:25
  facilities, affiliates, gyms, whomever,
• 28:29
  to open their doors and say, come on in,
• 28:31
  come be part of this.
• 28:33
  And we want that to
• 28:35
  hopefully open up some partnerships.
• 28:38
  We were contacted the other
• 28:39
  day by a gym owner who his
• 28:42
  gym is located right across
• 28:43
  the street from a police department.
• 28:45
  And so he works with them on
• 28:47
  a regular basis to try to
• 28:50
  Rehab them if there's an
• 28:51
  injury or just help them
• 28:53
  with workouts or whatever it is.
• 28:56
  Some of this stuff is not
• 28:58
  necessarily a state
• 29:00
  initiative we can encourage,
• 29:01
  but the locals, I mean,
• 29:03
  if you go into all of these
• 29:04
  local communities,
• 29:05
  they're very supportive of
• 29:06
  their first responders.
• 29:07
  And so some of this is just
• 29:08
  the awareness of, you know, this,
• 29:10
  this facility exists, come on in,
• 29:12
  you know, use the gym or whatever,
• 29:14
  whatever it happens to be.
• 29:16
  Um,
• 29:16
  in addition to any types of programming
• 29:18
  that we can, we can put on.
• 29:21
  The awareness too,
• 29:22
  because there's so many
• 29:23
  different flavors of
• 29:24
  fitness out there that
• 29:26
  people like we talk,
• 29:28
  the three of us probably do
• 29:29
  a different type of fitness
• 29:31
  from each other because of
• 29:33
  what our needs are.
• 29:34
  Right.
• 29:36
  Um,
• 29:36
  And maybe just awareness to
• 29:38
  what all is available out there.
• 29:40
  Some gyms have like PTs in
• 29:43
  the gym that can help with rehab.
• 29:46
  You know,
• 29:47
  there's just a lot of different
• 29:49
  possibilities out there.
• 29:51
  And I think awareness is
• 29:52
  just a big thing that needs
• 29:53
  to be promoted.
• 29:55
  Scott, I would add in my perfect world,
• 29:59
  if you think about what we
• 30:01
  do from an affiliate owner perspective,
• 30:06
  If I if I look at, you know,
• 30:08
  I'm sitting in Salina, Ohio.
• 30:11
  It's a population of ten
• 30:12
  thousand Mercer County
• 30:13
  population of sixty five or
• 30:17
  seventy five thousand.
• 30:18
  It's pretty rural.
• 30:18
  Right.
• 30:19
  You know, I look at the fire,
• 30:22
  the firehouse here.
• 30:23
  We've full time firefighters
• 30:26
  and they have a section in
• 30:27
  their firehouse.
• 30:28
  They could do physical
• 30:29
  fitness in a perfect world.
• 30:31
  I see this as.
• 30:34
  groups like us, you know,
• 30:36
  partnering with facilities like that,
• 30:39
  doing something in-house, working,
• 30:42
  you know,
• 30:42
  having every firehouse that
• 30:44
  houses full-time firefighters,
• 30:47
  full-time police,
• 30:48
  having the ability to do
• 30:51
  functional movement, functional fitness,
• 30:54
  call it, I don't care what,
• 30:56
  inside of their facility, right?
• 30:59
  Whether that's on duty or off duty,
• 31:01
  something that allows them
• 31:03
  Maybe they don't have an opportunity.
• 31:05
  And if you think about a lot of families,
• 31:06
  they're, you know,
• 31:08
  first responders are
• 31:09
  working odd shifts as it is.
• 31:11
  They've got families, right?
• 31:13
  So when they're not working,
• 31:14
  they're trying to dive into
• 31:15
  their family life,
• 31:16
  kids and sports and all of that.
• 31:19
  You start to look at, yeah, well, you know,
• 31:21
  fitness is you just have to
• 31:22
  schedule it out of your day.
• 31:24
  For a first responder,
• 31:25
  that's sometimes extremely difficult.
• 31:28
  They don't have, you know,
• 31:29
  a nine to five or an eight
• 31:31
  to five like you and I do.
• 31:32
  Um,
• 31:33
  so how do we bring it to the firehouse?
• 31:35
  And, you know,
• 31:36
  one of the things that I
• 31:37
  would love at some point is
• 31:38
  to introduce programs that
• 31:40
  we could partner with state
• 31:41
  entities that says,
• 31:42
  here's a program that we
• 31:44
  could help you kick off the ground,
• 31:47
  find us a firehouse and
• 31:49
  let's do it inside of the facility.
• 31:52
  And now it's there, it's there.
• 31:53
  So it's not, you know,
• 31:55
  it's not something that, Hey, they're,
• 31:56
  they have to come to us.
• 31:57
  They can supplement their
• 32:00
  personal fitness in a gym like ours.
• 32:03
  but it's driven through the office,
• 32:06
  through the facility that
• 32:07
  they're working for.
• 32:09
  But anyways, I just, you know,
• 32:11
  those are ideas that I have.
• 32:13
  And I know Kristen and I
• 32:13
  have talked about that briefly,
• 32:15
  but those are our thoughts.
• 32:18
  So before I let you guys go,
• 32:20
  the details of this event, nine,
• 32:21
  eleven is this Wednesday, I believe,
• 32:23
  correct?
• 32:26
  And so for your event,
• 32:27
  you're kicking it off with
• 32:28
  a live workout at, if people don't know,
• 32:33
  we have an old soccer stadium,
• 32:35
  not that old,
• 32:36
  but they built a brand new one.
• 32:37
  So this one isn't being used
• 32:39
  as much here in Columbus.
• 32:41
  And that's where you're
• 32:42
  kicking it off is the old crew stadium.
• 32:46
  Do you have the workout
• 32:47
  published anywhere?
• 32:49
  Yeah.
• 32:49
  So it's on the flyer that we send out.
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  I know that we posted it on our,
• 32:56
  web pages.
• 32:56
  Kristen, has the state shared that out?
• 33:00
  Yes.
• 33:00
  What's your web page?
• 33:02
  I'm just going to try to pull it up.
• 33:09
  Yeah,
• 33:09
  let me see where it's at now that I
• 33:12
  think about that.
• 33:15
  You can go to our CrossFit Crave,
• 33:18
  CF Crave Instagram.
• 33:20
  I think it's on there.
• 33:21
  You put me on the spot now, Scottie.
• 33:24
  I don't help you on that.
• 33:26
  Debbie does.
• 33:26
  Where's Debbie at?
• 33:28
  She might be putting it in the comments.
• 33:30
  If you're reading comments,
• 33:31
  let me jump on.
• 33:33
  Yeah.
• 33:33
  If you go to, just go to my Instagram,
• 33:36
  go to coach underscore Schindelbecker.
• 33:38
  I've, I found it on your crave.
• 33:40
  There you go.
• 33:41
  I got it.
• 33:41
  So I'm going to share it.
• 33:43
  So it's there.
• 33:43
  And I think Kristen has it
• 33:45
  on some of your state sites or PDS,
• 33:49
  maybe.
• 33:51
  Yeah, there it is.
• 33:52
  So,
• 33:59
  So here it is.
• 34:00
  It's forty one minutes and
• 34:01
  twenty seconds of physical
• 34:02
  movement that you choose in
• 34:04
  honor of the four hundred
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  twelve first responders who
• 34:06
  lost their lives.
• 34:08
  There is a CrossFit quad and
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  it is one hundred stairs or steps,
• 34:14
  twenty burpees, thirty sit ups,
• 34:17
  forty lunges, air squats.
• 34:20
  And I'm assuming that that's
• 34:21
  depending on what you have.
• 34:25
  Yeah.
• 34:27
  And there's a workout explanation there.
• 34:30
  to do it.
• 34:30
  And then, like Kristen said,
• 34:32
  we're at the stadium,
• 34:33
  we're having walking, we're having yoga,
• 34:37
  and then you can climb,
• 34:38
  you can just climb the
• 34:39
  stairs if you'd like,
• 34:40
  or just walk the stadium steps.
• 34:42
  And the goal to offer those,
• 34:43
  the rest of those is, listen,
• 34:44
  you can do this anywhere.
• 34:46
  You can do it at home,
• 34:47
  you can do it at your fire station,
• 34:49
  your police station.
• 34:51
  The goal is there to move,
• 34:52
  preferably with others,
• 34:54
  meaning you're finding your
• 34:56
  partner or somebody
• 34:57
  that you can move with for
• 34:59
  forty one minutes and twenty seconds.
• 35:01
  And then we implore you to register.
• 35:04
  So if you click on that link,
• 35:06
  it takes you to the registration site.
• 35:09
  I don't know if that's a
• 35:10
  clickable link there on yours,
• 35:11
  but if you click on that,
• 35:13
  it takes you to the
• 35:13
  registration site where you can sign up.
• 35:17
  Tell us where you're doing
• 35:18
  the event at and it'll walk
• 35:21
  you through that whole process there.
• 35:24
  so that takes you to broken
• 35:27
  science yep um and their
• 35:31
  link is on there some not
• 35:32
  much and then you go to the
• 35:37
  link that they provide I'm
• 35:38
  trying and then there is
• 35:44
  events my share screen doesn't follow so
• 35:54
  Yeah, that's all right.
• 35:58
  I don't see it on here.
• 35:59
  I can get you the link, Scott.
• 36:03
  So what I'll do is after
• 36:04
  we're done with the show today,
• 36:06
  I'll get that link from Matt.
• 36:07
  I'll put it in the
• 36:10
  description of this video.
• 36:13
  And you can click on that to register.
• 36:16
  And really the important
• 36:17
  thing is move for forty one
• 36:19
  minutes and twenty seconds.
• 36:22
  If you want to do it in the
• 36:23
  CrossFit WOD that they provide, awesome.
• 36:26
  You get to do that.
• 36:27
  If you want to climb stairs,
• 36:28
  you want to go for a run, whatever,
• 36:31
  ride a bike, whatever it is,
• 36:33
  just move for forty one
• 36:34
  minutes and twenty seconds.
• 36:37
  Grab your friends and family, too.
• 36:39
  That's it.
• 36:40
  I was going to say,
• 36:42
  we prefer you to do that with others.
• 36:45
  And it's that shared suffering,
• 36:46
  that shared bonding that
• 36:49
  we're really looking for.
• 36:51
  Well, guys, this has been awesome.
• 36:53
  Is there anything I missed
• 36:54
  in my questioning that you
• 36:55
  guys want to get out there?
• 36:58
  Kristen?
• 37:00
  Not for me.
• 37:00
  Thank you.
• 37:02
  I think we're good here.
• 37:04
  Scott,
• 37:04
  I appreciate the time and putting us
• 37:07
  on and helping us get the word out.
• 37:09
  That's the biggest thing, I think.
• 37:11
  Sharing the message and
• 37:12
  sharing the word is
• 37:14
  probably the hardest thing to do,
• 37:16
  and I appreciate you
• 37:16
  jumping in and helping us out with that.
• 37:19
  Well, Matt, you know,
• 37:20
  you're one of my favorite
• 37:21
  dudes in this space.
• 37:23
  And anytime you need time on this show,
• 37:26
  it's yours.
• 37:27
  All you have to do is give
• 37:27
  me a call and you can come
• 37:29
  on here and we'll talk
• 37:30
  about whatever it is you
• 37:31
  want to talk about.
• 37:33
  What you are doing for our state.
• 37:38
  in this space is remarkable
• 37:40
  and should be commended by
• 37:42
  as many people as possible
• 37:44
  that know about it.
• 37:47
  Anytime you need a platform,
• 37:49
  you have this one.
• 37:50
  I appreciate it.
• 37:52
  None of this wouldn't happen
• 37:53
  if that girl that's sitting
• 37:54
  right in the middle of us,
• 37:56
  this wouldn't be a thing if
• 37:58
  it weren't for her hard work.
• 38:00
  I would not want the hours
• 38:02
  that she's put into this,
• 38:03
  I would not want that job.
• 38:06
  Again,
• 38:10
  this Wednesday move for forty one
• 38:12
  minutes and twenty seconds
• 38:13
  with a group of friends,
• 38:14
  group of family members,
• 38:16
  whoever you can get to come
• 38:17
  around and just move.
• 38:20
  And this is to honor the
• 38:21
  first responders who lost
• 38:23
  their lives at night eleven,
• 38:24
  but also to celebrate the
• 38:25
  first responders we have in
• 38:26
  our lives today.
• 38:28
  So make sure that you do
• 38:29
  that this Wednesday, September eleventh.
• 38:32
  And with that guys,
• 38:33
  thank you so much for
• 38:34
  taking the time out to do
• 38:35
  this and we will see
• 38:37
  everybody next time on the
• 38:38
  Clydesdale media podcast.
• 38:40
  Thanks guys.
• 38:41
  See ya.