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Death Sack: Kevin Conroy Batman Tribute & Mick Gordon vs id Software Dispute · Multiple Nerdgasm

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I did a thing you'll be proud of me after last week's episode I went out and
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I watched The Watcher all right I don't get it welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy I don't get he hunts monsters but
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he's tortured yeah yeah no I I hunt the
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monsters in your own house mate when you say you don't did you watch all of it I
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didn't I haven't finished it yet but I've got most of the way but like some
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of the things just don't make sense like they're hard up to cash true and then
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when they're going we'll get a security system and the kid goes it'll be $7,000
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she goes yep not a problem and she's like should we get wored about like
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thinks that's like some kind of plot hole not like literally the fact that
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he's hiding fact they don't have money from his wife and he's being flamboyant
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when he shouldn't be that's what yeah I know but it's just like he's
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so insistent on her and yeah because he's been bankrupt before and he's
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trying to give his wife the impression that they've got lots of money because
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he's just spent $3 million on this house when secretly he's [ __ ] got him in
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the hole well he's just an idiot and anything that happens to him he deserves
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I mean wow sure sure mhm I think he does
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a great job though Bobby caraval he does uh he's perfectly cast in this because
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he is that perfect like Macho confident dude but he plays the fact that he has
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no money and he's hiding it from his family and also his family hat it so
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well yeah but then also like the Neighbors when they just kill themselves
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well that was weird keep watching keep watching Luke keep
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watching don't worry look there will be plent to criticize once you've seen it
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all don't worry there's plenty of some stuff some stuff is not what you think
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yeah I don't know if I could be bothered right well then fine we can just tell
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you then that they if you want spoil us
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ahead look if you oh if you want to
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watch Bobby caraval in his greatest role watch the One season of Boardwalk Empire
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that he's in right how's he in that he plays he's he's one cuz there's a
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different villain in each season he plays one of The Season's villains he's
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like a bootlegger from another town who comes into Atlantic City to try and mess
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things up but he's he's got this fetish he likes to be choked while he [ __ ]
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women so he's he goes to this brothel and has that and then in the last
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episode they send assassins to kill him
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while he's enjoying himself right and
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they interrupt him and he manages to
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escape and it's it's one it's one long
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continuous shot from above right as he
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walks with a shotgun through the brothel just shooting all of these hit men that
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have come to get him completely naked covered in blood with a belt around his
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neck while his enormous pendulous [ __ ] swings back and forth as he moves around
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is it a real penis or is it a fake one I don't know I wasn't looking that closely
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but either way it was an impressive appendage there you go
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I don't know I don't know he's one of those actors I like but I don't know
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what I like him I I think I've only seen him in two things the Watcher which I
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liked him in a lot and Ant-Man which he wasn't in that much but he was fine yeah
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um I think I may may maybe that I don't like him as an actor maybe it's just I
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like him yeah okay two more things why did you wink when you said that yeah
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that's right why did you why did you do the pendulus [ __ ]
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movement watch The Station Agent Matt where him and station him and Peter
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Dinklage team up for a buddy comedy oh all right all right Indie though was a
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Sundance movie so don't expect any explosions or dragons or anything why
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are we watching it and um he also he also comes into the second
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season of master of none which is a Cesar sar's oh yeah series which is
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worth watch to watch him anymore are we I think he redeemed himself didn't he I
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don't know did that all sort itself out what did he do wrong remember he had sex
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with that girl who said she was perfectly happy to have sex with him and
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then later on said that she actually didn't want have sex with her that was
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the thing it was that he he didn't because she said no and he didn't but
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then he kept trying to cuz she was still naked or something I don't know it's the
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whole I was I mean I'm not I'm not trying to be funny or you know yeah you
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no no no it seemed like a genely quite understand exactly what the situation
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was I thought it was a bit of a mess the whole story he seemed mortified that she
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was calling him out on abuse yes cuz I think he didn't realize
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that cly sound the situation as described I was like I'd be pretty
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[ __ ] confused if I was in that situation it's like not saying what he
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did was right I don't know but it seemed very confusing to me but yeah you would
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be mortified whether if you did it or if you didn't like that's the correct
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response yes yes to be he thought it was
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a bad date basically and yeah he he would have described it as uh yeah we
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never quite got there although we tried yeah all right well that's my experience
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with the Watcher all right and and what do you think of the
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Witcher H The Witcher you know honestly I think I've watched more of the Watcher
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than I watched of season 2 of The Witcher season 2 did slow down it really
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put the breakes on season 1 was compelling season 2 is all of the charm
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of season 1 but without that compelling story maybe that's why Henry's leaving
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cuz yeah like I I couldn't and I'm sure I probably not the only person who
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struggled with it no I didn't finish it either wait you didn't finish Witch
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season 2 no really tuned out I tuned out oh I love Henry caval I love geralt no
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it wasn't bad it just didn't compel me I'll go back and watch it at some point
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I'm I'm with you I don't didn't think it was as as good but I still watched it
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all and enjoyed there was nothing there was nothing that was pulling me back to
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watch it the next exactly that's talking actually because I found the first
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episode particularly good and I remember Luke you saying you didn't like it
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that's the one where he you know meets his old friend who's been turned into a
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monster and he's that was a good episode I'll say that that was an excellent
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episod cuz that's one of my one of the more memorable of the um short stories
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from the last wishes cuz it's like a beauty in the Beast kind of thing but
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it's kind of like it's a little bit more folta it reminded me of the Storyteller
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yeah that oldies exactly and I love that stuff yeah but with like Muppet dude
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what's that no he wasn't a muppet Muppet it was with the Muppet guy yeah they were Muppet
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yeah they all no it was it was John Hurt he wasn't a muppet he was just we don't
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know that Matt and we'll never know now he did have some I think he had a
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prosthetic nose on so well they made him into an old man so he had a lot of
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Prosthetics because he wasn't an old man at that point which I often forget that
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at that point he wasn't an old no he was probably younger than we are now yeah
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just a good actor yeah just a a world class actor I miss him the soldier who
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caught death is one of my favorite just things from my childhood that's great
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yeah get in my sack you know what this is a sack well
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if it's a sack get in it so good yeah if they make
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TV like that now I don't see
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it oh wish I had a good memory like that kind of remember it of that
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particular show or you just have no
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Nostalgia I don't remember details like that I have I got you know how many
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times have you watched Spies Like Us I've watched Storyteller possibly
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more like I just used to watch not not even all of Storyteller just that one
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yeah but even like Spies Like Us I could not name a single character in that movie
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really I know the story but could not name them that particular that thing is
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except for Angel oh yeah but she was an actress is he cheating I'm cheating and
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he's still winning when he plays Cards Against The Devils so good
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um uh I've been filling out a lot of forms recently oh yeah um which we can
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go into in a sec because I'm moving on Monday yes um and all my stuff's already
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there so it should be a pretty easy move um but two things came out of it number
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one I've had to write my date of birth which listeners uh is 1980 and I
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literally I'm at the age now where I get nostalgic for the 80s just writing down
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my date of birth I I just started thinking I'm like s to June 1980 oh the
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80s what a great era remember how easy it was being a kid and a teenager to
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know how to remember your age it was 19 was so easy and then as soon as we 2000
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it got complicated I know whyn't yeah nice for some I always had a hard time
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to deduct one from everything yeah or add one I'm not sure that's why Luke
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never knows how old he is um yeah the other thing you mentioned uh in The
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Watcher them buying a $3 million house yes um my house did not cost $3 million
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but it was still very expensive but around the corner from the house I
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bought is what I would consider my dream
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house right oh um so you're bit closer now yeah say well geographically close
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sure yeah um to to my dream house yeah you could say I'm closer to it you're
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supposed to Doos closer and closer until you're in the house you're in it yeah I
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think that's what the Watcher is about actually yeah um it was me I'm the
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Watcher I Am The Watcher I've literally pulled over to just look at this house
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right it's like an old like Victorian era house and it has on the top of it
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this little turret with Windows around that I can only assume like a grizzled
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old scientist looks at charts and things in right and I want to be that grizzled
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old man you know what I mean like it's just my perfect and I keep so what
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charts are you looking at I'll get some charts Luke I'll get some charts if I had the room
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data what type of charts Star Charts nautical charts just charts man no you
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you got to pick a l you go I'll see yeah I'll see what kind of house it is once
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I've never seen inside but the thing is right so I always thought you know have
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I have I missed the have I have I bought my house I should have looked at this ab
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and it wasn't sale or anything but anyway it's for sale now right you don't
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know that Luke it's no he's right spoilers he's right so so
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I it's up for sale ha was like do you know how much that house is I'm like no
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I didn't want to look just I looked apparently my 3.2 apparently my dream
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house L costs $5 million yep I thought I I'll coming in
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low that's Sydney though isn't it okay there's Sydney and there's $5 million
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Matt who has $5 million and our house which we purchased
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like 2 years ago is worth an extra $200,000 already it's ridiculous for for
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for nothing just if anything you've ruined it a little bit yes I could put
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holes in the ceiling last week yeah there is a lot of money so I
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never I'll never I don't need to pick a lane loot cuz I will never afford to
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live in that house I will never have my little chart room well maybe you had a
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chart room just for finance you could work on it you sound like my wife Luke [ __ ]
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[Laughter] you no I have a very special way of
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handling money go on spend it all oh
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okay yeah yeah you're a financial advisement
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lawyer isn't that we establish that last week I forget if that's the exact ter
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used yeah pay for important things like accommodation electricity and internet
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and spend the rest but spending the rest is covered
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under for Xbox I'm going to go out and a limb and say that you don't actually get
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access to all your money do you so you spending the rest is just it's still
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your allow he's spending his allowance yeah his pocket money well because I I I
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pay for all that so I don't have access to savings CU I don't understand savings
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you don't understand them no just just buy stuff my problem is just invest in
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more games so invest is okay I think that's a that's a good buzzword right in
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games is the troubling part that's right yeah I invest in games I can't on
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sell cuz the internet ruined that for me my problem lot of stuff on Amazon since
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yeah I if that's an investment in yourself Matt yeah and Jeff Bezos yeah
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indect indirectly my wife in this room M have you stopped investing in sort of
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estate sales though cuz I know that was a problem for a
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while me how much of a problem was it I've got several musical instruments on
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this wall that came from estate sales I'll have you do you play any or all of
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them all of them I play some of them yes I can't play all of them okay I was you
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know I had lofty goals of learning the cello learning the violin and all I have
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not I I mean I don't I'm not a I reckon if you could learn either the all the
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violin you could probably play the other one you know what I mean I'll say and
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Luke you're right they do look good on the wall and honestly that kind of why I
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bought them anyway yeah you tried to justify it by saying
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all I mean the cello is now in the basement cuz it's cuz it's massive of
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room yeah yeah and that lamp has now replaced see behind me there yeah I
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could just put it back there I suppose actually well the reason I'm one of the
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reasons I moved it is because I work from home now and whenever on a video
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call there this cello behind me and it looks great but people like oh you play
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the cello and I have to say no no no yeah yeah like it just it looks good
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yeah that's like my anchor tattoo and I constantly have people coming up going I
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was in the Navy as well and I'm like
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oh I just like boats I just yeah I'm trying to pick a lane
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people somebody watched something else I've noticed oh I assume that's why Thor
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love and thunder is in here and I'm assume it's Dan he's the only one who
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hadn't seen it it is me and um I guess the way this works is that I'm the tie
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Breer as to deciding definitively whether or not this is a good movie or a
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piece of [ __ ] yeah but Lucas wish piece of [ __ ] like I just didn't think it was a
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good like I didn't think it was a good movie I didn't think it was a bad movie
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well you're wrong either way it was an excellent movie and I loved every second
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of it now was it perfect you were primed like I was yeah I was about to say I was
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my my bar was extremely low also um
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would I have liked to have seen the god killer kill more than one God yeah I
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would have would I have liked to have seen how Natalie Portman became a Thor
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as opposed to just her standing next to a hammer and later on she yes I would
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have liked that too um plenty of stuff I thought it skipped over unnecessarily
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and then just leaned into a lot of stuff that they didn't need to actually I
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think what is is they did they did the same mistake that they did with Thor
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Ragnarok is the whole surprise like cuz the whole surprise that was going to be
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in Thor Ragnarok was the Hulk was in it and he was there but then that came out
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in the ads and every one was there everyone knew it and then the same thing
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happened with Thor love and thunder is the big shock was meant to be that she's
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now the Almighty Thor but you already knew that going in so I think that took
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away from it yeah I have some um I have some insight info I guess in a way as to
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just kind of how they how those movies Tao y movies are made because we know he
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does a lot of improv and stuff we've seen that and I think from what I gather
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some stuff was left on The Cutting Room floor to make room for things that were
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kind of improvised and were deemed that's funny put that in yeah okay yeah
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they did Lean very heavily into the jokes for example there is a whole scene
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or SE sequence of scenes with Jeff Goldblum that were filmed and are not in
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the movie I don't know if that's general knowledge but I know that yeah but there
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was also just a deleted scene that I sort of floing around recently where
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Thor's walking around with um what's his name Zeus having a
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conversation oh sure yeah that's what I mean I think from what I gather there
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was a lot of let's try this let's try that let's let's go okay now let's
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modify this set to allow me to do this new thing and it's like yeah also I'm
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now playing all the characters and the
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narrator yeah um but very funny um
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extremely funny and just very very good and they didn't seem to it was clearly a
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CO movie cuz they didn't seem to even be trying to cover up the fact that
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everyone was against a green screen and nobody was in the same room at the same
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time fine fine um Thor was the least interesting character in this movie I'm
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used to that by now I would watch an entire movie of just uh Gore
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um Christian Bale's character not only that I kind of agree with him and if you
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apply film Theory he's actually the protagonist cuz he's the one who changes
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by the end right oh yeah so he's the one who makes the sacrifice and he's the one
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who turns around and so I I'd watch that
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movie I'd also watch two hours of just Russell Crow doing the con the frut
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acent accent from the8 watching it we're watching it and Jenny goes he's just
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doing your Lebanese accent yes and I said yeah he is perfectly it's not my
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accent it's you are this close to not being invited to the
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OG evidently they filmed it two ways they filmed it with him just being
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Russell Crow and then filmed it with him doing hat
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yeah killer killer I was like no they're not they're not and it's like this must
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just be a two-minute thing no 15 minutes of him monologuing in what I would
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consider extremely racist accent for somebody who's born anded Aussie yeah he
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grew up the same time as us when that was all acceptable yeah that was just
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used to be the voice that was allowed to do that mean Disney still had the
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opportunity to say Russell yes and that's why I think he did he did
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do it twice CU he's like they're probably not going go down this path but
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you're probably going to use this voice he did the Maximus version but and and
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then also theid had this version and then they and they looked and they saw
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that actually currently at the enmore theater [ __ ] W boys seven is on so
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it's probably okay no but Matt those people actually are ethnic that's that's
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the only difference otherwise I'd completely agree with you yeah fair but
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I was going to go to the movies this week cuz I think Wanda's out yes wonda
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forever man I got I I saw that um the soundtrack was out on Spotify and I've
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got I can't help gushing over man it's [ __ ] amazing really Lon is the [ __ ]
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like the soundtrack is great but yeah so I have watched that
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hopefully by next week's episode I like going to the movies and
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stealing people's popcorn because I refuse to buy popcorn popcorn is a rock
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and I'll will never pay for it hang but I'll steal more information required
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please just who you stealing popcorn from the people like go with okay I just
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refuse to buy popcorn lean over the in front of you go don't mind me yeah I
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refuse to buy it but I [ __ ] love it I Love Popcorn but I'm not paying
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movie prices for popcorn hold on that's not what you said you said you refused
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to buy popcorn so even from a suit like could you take your own in a backpack no
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cuz they're just not hot okay uh and to be hot popcorn fair enough hot corn cold
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popcorn's the worst I'm not saying cold I'm saying room temperature yeah no no I need it
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hot I need it fresh in fact I never had um popcorn with fresh butter put onto it
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until I went to the Castro in America in San Francisco and I was like you can
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just P butter I don't think I can go back to having pre- buttered popcorn
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anymore we have over here I I'm assuming I don't do this in Australia still but
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you could literally just pump flavored butter on there we got garlic butter and
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you just pump the [ __ ] on there it's amazing we get the here's your box of
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popcorn that if you're lucky has some flavor on it it's probably just salt in
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Singapore you can choose sweet popcorn or savory popcorn and you can opt to you
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mix yeah so that's what you do you go sweet first on the bottom and then
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Savory so by the time you've had your dinner your dessert then it's time for your
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dessert that's I can't do it's they call it kettle corn here that's where they
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cook the popcorn and it's got sugar in it can't do it kettle corn makes me sick
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it's gross it's so gross like uh no but sick because I can't stop eating it when
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it's there oh no I'm the I just have no I I don't know why I just can't stop I
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think it's just cuz it's straight sugar at some some degree it just it just
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doesn't taste good to me at all it's like I went to go buy they had some
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kettle corn that was available to buy cuz it was Halloween so Big W had a bag
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a small bag it was about 100 gr of
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kettle corn for $5 God what Jenna brings bags and bags of at home from the fairs
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when she works yeah like like kettle corn is cheap there's no reason that
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cost much at all but it's like kettle corn is to me like I have another thing
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that they they this everywhere in the US is Reese's peanut butter things right
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peanut butter for me is a Savory thing right I put peanut butter on toast with
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butter like I put normal butter on there as well double Savory oh I did that yeah
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yeah and but they put it in chocolate and on candy and stuff and it's just
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tastes wrong and gross to me and everyone thinks I'm a [ __ ] freak but
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Kettle Corn's the same popcorn is supposed to be buttery and savory I
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can't do it but they like peanut butter I love that with veggie M you have that
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sort of fighting competing flavors you're fired get
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out um did you see the post I made the other day about the [ __ ] chicken I
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found at Woolworth's yep unfortunately I did now now I like veite very much I
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have it nearly every day but I don't want it on a chicken so I I don't
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understand that is the veggie so for listeners there's a photo of a you know
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a roast chicken you get at the store like a preed ro chicken in a warmer Y is
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the but with it says with veggie is the veggie M on the chicken or inside I
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think it's stuffed with veite flavor find one if I find one I will try go to
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woolies man it was just sitting there looking back at
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me have it no remember not all woolies
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are the same true no no like the woolies that we have up the road I don't like
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buying any of our meat or fish from because their butcher is just not that
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good I prefer to go to the one near my work they got a decent butcher you are
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out in the desert I probably wouldn't buy fish in the desert either I like
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fish me too we're coming up to prawn season but go closer to the go closer to
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the water and before you buy your Seafood when Jenner and I were driving
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across the country in the Mall of America in Minnesota where's Mall of
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America it's in the middle of the country probably America yeah it's in uh yeah Minnesota
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it's in the middle of uh [ __ ] no like literally in the middle of the country
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mhm and uh is Minnesota the Fargo place where they kind of sound a little bit
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Canadian and the Mall of America has a roller coaster doesn't it correct it's
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like it's like an enormous mall with a roller coaster inside of it and
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everything like that it's it's cool yeah and but we went to a restaurant in there
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to get dinner and the guy is like oh where you from I said Rhode Island and
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and he's like oh okay great and he said here's the menu he goes if you order any
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of the seafood I am going to punch you remember where you are I was like oh
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yeah good point mhm yeah you're you're the one from the Harbor City where out
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the exactly you will not like anything we have on the Seafood menu so well well
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I will say like where I am compared to where M America is it's a little bit
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different we're like 3 hours away from water it's not too bad yeah yeah this is
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about 8 hours drive more possibly yeah what would be the closest water to
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Minnesota okay let's see maps. for our
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for our Minnesota listeners M be like a day drive or something so let's see well
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let me get directions from here let's see direct more of America yeah so if
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they wanted to get some of that sweet Newport Seafood how long would it take
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him it would take them um no driving not walking [ __ ] why is that even an option
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20 hours and 44 minutes drive it's a decent drive to get here speaking of sea
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at least like seafood from like Sydney to CRA that's like it throw it in a
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refrigerated truck yeah you'd be right and drive it whereas that distance you
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have to freeze it so it's not fresh and not good there's probably a lake you
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could probably get some lake trout or something yeah they CB in in the middle
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I've been to the Great Lakes at uh Detroit Detroit that is that the same
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state no um Michigan Mich Lake Michigan that's the one oh sure is that that Lake
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that caught on fire that one time that's Lake Eerie which may or may
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not be in Michigan I have no idea not sure I confused that one with
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the one in Australia like a is a confusing name cuz it's it's
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water yeah why would they have called it that um speaking of seafood I still
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remember that Seattle trip that we did which was just excellent Seafood but you
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just order by the bucket and they literally just pour a bucket of seafood
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in front of each person I think it's called The Crab Pot that place went to Crab Pot yeah
27:14
amazing literally pour BU as of seafood on the table yeah but they're like you
27:17
want any potatoes and stuff in there yeah okay we'll put some potatoes in
27:20
there what some corn yeah a bit of Co SLO yeah I'd be saying no just just keep
27:26
the keep the the Sea Food it was who wants fillers very don't worry about
27:31
potatoes and corn yeah we should do that sometime I'm sure there's a place near
27:34
here that we oh Boston definitely would be a place like that I think the next
27:39
place we should probably meet up would probably just be Hawaii yeah the mag Magnum
27:45
tour well I'm thinking that would be easier with kids wouldn't it
27:49
probably cuz that's more of like a holiday like you state of Resort type of thing
27:54
and yeah yeah yeah lock them up yeah like drop him off at the daycare
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thing where you go out and do a dayour different parent to look after him for a
28:04
bit well a lot of resorts have um kids rooms where they're essentially dayc
28:08
carees with with with cheors who who hang out with your kids yeah yeah that's
28:14
what and I think so that I'm just putting that out there because I want to
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go to Hawaii and walk up a volcano U speaking of people who love to hang out
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with kids James gun
28:26
um have I missed the story lately not lately but wasn't he tweeting that he
28:31
was a pedophile a couple of years back no he was tweeting that um that uh
28:35
what's his name what kind of think of Toxic Avenger Lloyd calman Lloyd calman
28:40
he was tweeting that Lloyd calman was a pedophile I think right takes one to No
28:45
One what do you got against J I love James gun I love James gun and I am
28:50
psyched you're just jealous massively jealous of him immensely jealous
28:56
of Cu in come at me James gun um then we'll
29:03
talk no I'm excited about his DCU or is just the DCU he seems to be talking
29:09
about yeah they said they're going to rename it to the DCU which I think is
29:12
funny because it's see I mccu yeah as I said I think he's in he's in a hard
29:18
place to start with cuz it's not starting fresh and I think that's going
29:22
to be the hardest thing it is apparently what yeah it won't be it won't be
29:28
completely fresh he'll keep his just his not Justice League his Suicide Squad
29:33
character no way Margo Robbie is down at cing for a new job that's what I mean
29:38
like it's not they're not going to recast like have like a new Wonder Woman
29:42
a new Harley Quinn they're going to have cuz people want them back people like
29:48
them that they're going to want Aquaman which I don't no he's going to fire him
29:52
looking at numbers I'm not entirely sure people want Wonder Woman anymore second movie
29:58
feasible that they just say okay we're going to keep the same actors and stuff
30:02
because that's fine cuz they'd actually done that with the Marvel stuff too
30:05
right they've got some of them the Netflix Marvel series actors coming into
30:09
the MCU now MH right like but there still their stuff was still or Cannon is
30:14
it I don't know no I think I don't know that it is cuz now kingpin's got
30:21
superpowers so I don't know I don't know about that but I mean he could literally
30:24
just say okay yeah Henry kev's still Superman but get those other movies look
30:29
I'm I'm hoping it is honestly his choice and not uh I'd be surprised if they
30:35
didn't let him he's what you get to work with but who's doing that he is what you
30:38
get to work with cuz he's the CEO now yeah so remember they let him have free
30:44
reign on suicide squad and look what how great is it
30:49
yeah yeah so let him do his thing but I'm always worried that yeah people will
30:54
get in the way and go n you got to do this and this and have him in there I
30:59
he's very he's in a very good position to say we did it your way and look what
31:05
happened backck off and let me do my thing and we did it my way and you hir
31:10
me to do you hired me to do something let me do it
31:15
yeah and so um I I still don't know
31:19
because I think some of it is that they did a terrible job but then there's also
31:24
the other side of I don't really like DC characters oh like some of them I like
31:28
Batman I think Batman's cool I like suicide squad more now that I've seen
31:33
what he did with them so I think I think I can get past that I love Superman I
31:37
just think no one's done him well in a long time I don't like Superman I would
31:42
have said I didn't like Superman but I've come around on that actually and I
31:44
think part actually watching um the boys uh there there's women screaming in your
31:50
home Matt oh that's there's a child being child that's not a woman Dan are
31:54
you sure yeah that's not sah yeah I
31:58
guess it could be Sarah yeah
32:03
um uh the boys what they did with homelander was I was like a see that's
32:08
interesting they should do something like that with Superman but then they
32:11
chickened out on that in um Justice League I think they should remake
32:15
Watchmen but with the actual
32:19
characters just DC characters in Watchman to just go it's not a parody
32:26
it's not an allegory this this is what we meant do we talk about we didn't we
32:31
talk about this was in the spreadsheet the other week about you know Alan mo
32:33
[ __ ] hates everything that's done with his stuff take my [ __ ] name off
32:37
it yeah everything that they do he says no you got it wrong and it's to the
32:42
point where I'm like what was the message then Alan yeah cuz actually I
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think okay fine if he wants to criticize A League of Extraordinary Gentlemen you
32:51
go right ahead Allan they [ __ ] that they completely miss the point of that
32:55
but if made Sean con quit acting I know singlehandedly but if you look at
33:01
Watchman I mean yes they changed the ending but they did that on purpose um
33:06
but that's a pretty faithful adaptation as far as I'm concerned like and you
33:11
don't have a problem in cashing the checks no he doesn't take the money he
33:15
doesn't get money from it he always says I don't want any money and take my name
33:21
off it you can use it but don't associate me with it at all before or
33:25
after during so if you watch the of Watchmen it credits the other guy who he
33:31
co-wrote it with and it says co-written by but it doesn't say who he co-wrote it
33:35
by he doesn't like V for Vendetta he doesn't like Watchmen but then he's like
33:39
no you missed the point and it's like what was the point of V for Vendetta if
33:43
it was the new was the TV series TV series missed the point it's like what
33:46
was the [ __ ] point then right if everybody's missed it surely that's on
33:50
you I've got something for you instead of just going I don't want my name on or
33:54
anything why don't you get your name on it work with and get your point across M
34:00
mhm yeah I mean to be fair that's that's kind of what Neil G was doing for Years
34:04
Gone nobody can adapt my books and then eventually he was like I could help write the
34:09
screenplays and now they're great I mean maybe I could do it yeah yeah since I am
34:15
a writer he did though I respect that he
34:19
he at first clearly was not confident that he could which is I think a good
34:24
quality and then over time has gotten more and more involved with them and now
34:28
we've s which I think was excellent and he's very involved he knows what he's
34:32
doing now whereas for a long time he was kind of like I'll get other people to do
34:37
it at varying levels of success like American Gods I thought American Gods
34:41
was fantastic yeah um but he obviously clashed with them a lot but I think
34:47
there's a lot of respect there when people sort of don't want to take that
34:51
LE go look I'll leave with two people who I think are professionals instead of
34:55
you get the other side who people who jump in who have no idea what they're
34:58
doing there's an arrogance that's like no it's my stuff I you know it's
35:02
actually funny I watched a video on it was a folding ideas YouTube video The
35:08
lukewarm defense of um 50 Shades of Gray the films which are very funny series of
35:14
movies of of of of um YouTube videos but he was talking about how when they were
35:21
adapting 50 Shades of Gray which is garbage they actually made a lot of
35:25
changes that really improved it and the movie is quite good except that all of
35:29
the areas where it's still [ __ ] if you look there was a whole bunch of drama
35:33
behind the scenes cuz the original author was like you're not changing this
35:35
you're not changing that and all of that stuff is what's garbage about the movie
35:40
and then they just thought they were hot [ __ ] I also wasn't it sort of like what
35:46
they filmed just didn't really come across like the book it just came across
35:50
like quite even more an abusive relationship in the movies did in the
35:54
book I think they they tried to fix it but there were certain things things
35:57
that were apparently not up for being changed by the author I think I haven't
36:04
seen them I tried to read the books I bailed out because it was garbage I I
36:08
think it's because in the books you can sort of makes it bit easier to try and
36:11
romanticize Away some of it but then when you're actually just seeing it film
36:16
like seeing it up close you go well no that's not a I know I know because he
36:20
mentioned there one change in particular that that I I remember it because I read
36:23
this in the book and I was like this is [ __ ] creepy he doesn't track her
36:27
phone to find her at one point in the book there's a bit where she's at a bar
36:32
and she calls him up and starts making fun of him for being a uptight [ __ ]
36:36
and he track tracks her phone and then comes to the bar and it's [ __ ] creepy
36:42
in the movie he doesn't do that right and it's like well that's an improvement
36:45
right cuz I'm supposed to like this guy on some aren't sure sure well I don't
36:49
know I don't know who the good guy or bad gu is I've never read this the only
36:52
thing I know about this is what the the passage that uh they read out on maim
36:57
bam but he was like I was gonna be a DM so I put on my jeans my DM jeans and I
37:02
was like yeah it doesn't doesn't sound like my kind of book um I'll say this though Luke I
37:07
[ __ ] God that's a line from it as well
37:10
no um my um like ex like the the elderly
37:15
women in my like extended family Circle all read read this and and it it was
37:22
their like scandalous book that they they all like we secretly no it did it
37:29
did amazing like that's why they made it to a movie cuz everyone was reading
37:32
everyone was Lo but I yeah I just think it's just you can get away with some
37:35
things in a book that you can't I agree but I also naughty it's just naughty
37:39
that's the opposite is also true though right there are two films based on the
37:43
book loler right one by cubric done in the 60s and one done in the '90s with
37:48
Jeremy Irons right both of them are about a doomed love story right then you
37:53
read the book and he's just a pedophile like there's no love it's just a book
37:58
about a man grooming a little girl and and he even says it like in in the book
38:04
he's like I like little girls I know it's wrong I know it's illegal but I
38:08
just [ __ ] can't stop myself whereas in the films they don't say any of that
38:11
they just go oh I'm fallen in love with you and you're the wrong age it's very
38:15
tragic yeah but that's not what the book is the book is like how to groom little
38:20
girls if you're a pedophile I'm going to pass on that book yeah the the the irony
38:25
is it's beautifully written the pros is immaculate
38:29
but the character is absolutely insufferable and I'm going to also guess
38:34
there's like no like death stars or Star Destroyers or X wings for maybe probably
38:41
Force but
38:47
L well actually you've been hanging out with Dan too much it's more coercion
38:52
than force to be to be honest but it's still bad but that was a go I give you
38:56
10 points for that such lwh hanging fruit with what I should very low very
39:01
low cuz she's a young girl um we've got some followup there's
39:07
one in particular I want to talk about just uh briefly because I think we may
39:11
have talked about this a couple of years
39:14
ago um at first so Doom maternal came
39:19
out and great game yes and Mick Gordon famous as the guy who did all the
39:25
[ __ ] awesome music for Doom and I thought good dude Australian game came
39:30
out correct yeah he Liv in Queensland I think still um
39:36
and yeah Marty what's his name Marty [ __ ] whatever the guy only Marty I
39:43
know is MFL Marty Stratton he's now the head of ID software he was I think just
39:48
the this he's the studio head now he was the you know the executive producer of
39:53
whatever of the game of of Doom Eternal mhm put out this post on Reddit saying
39:57
basically the gist of it was uh you know my my summary of it was that mix's a bit
40:03
of a primadonna um he was late on everything there's no soundtrack album
40:08
because Mick couldn't get it done in time so we've had one of our guys here
40:12
at the studio Cobble something together and basically yeah basically made mix
40:18
sound like a [ __ ] and at the time I was like oh that's [ __ ] and it didn't
40:24
sound quite right to me but I mean not that know him personally but it just
40:28
didn't seem like I've seen a lot of interviews I've seen like live seminars
40:31
with him and stuff like that and I was like it doesn't seem like him I saw him
40:34
Play the soundtrack live at the game awards and he was [ __ ] rad he just he
40:39
it didn't strike me as that kind of guy but whatever you know and then and it
40:42
seemed pretty pretty cut and dry and Mick never really
40:46
responded uh until now after legal disputes and whatever else for the last
40:53
two years he's come out and said basically that was all horseshit and
40:56
he's got SC screenshots of emails and messages and stuff to prove it and he's
41:01
basically saying this guy Mighty just threw me under the [ __ ] bus because
41:06
they couldn't manage the project and uh I've tried you know talking them
41:12
out of it and they offered me six figures to just never say anything to
41:15
basically except that my career has been tarnished by what he said two years ago
41:19
his six figures go away and he said you know what I told him [ __ ] off and now
41:22
I'm going to tell you what really happened H for also for them offering
41:26
six to go away cuz all he he did the music correct that's all he did so it's
41:31
not like I'm not saying I'm not trying to wash that away but six figures to
41:36
just we this this is just a rumor right but somebody was saying that there there
41:40
there is and there was talk at the time right when Doom came out the 2016 doom
41:46
and the soundtrack was such a big success right mck did such a good job he
41:49
kind of became indelibly linked to the franchise in a way that it didn't like
41:56
right and I don't know this this is true this is just what people in the industry
41:59
were saying on on the internet and there was a sense at ID that they need to cut
42:04
this guy down a pig or two and I wonder if that had something to do with this
42:07
that's kind of always problem though right I remember like reading that like
42:12
on when they did Doom 2 and they decided to put one of American McGee's levels as
42:17
the starting level instead of one of Romero's and then that caused all this
42:20
internal friction and stuff cuz King's got to stay The King and I know none of
42:26
those guys work at it now or on the game we're talking about but I don't know
42:30
maybe that's just the culture of ID yeah too many egos but like what a [ __ ]
42:35
shame that like it didn't have to be like they're saying cuz what Mi no they
42:38
could have just [ __ ] high-fived each other and went man we made a great game
42:42
and we made a [ __ ] ton of money and like we don't need to get into
42:46
specifics if you're interested I'll link to the article and I I'll link to as
42:49
much info as I can because I do like personally I found it interesting
42:52
because you know I like video games I like music I like I like MC Gordon he's
42:57
he's been a kind of a a bit of a hero in the game composer industry so it's still
43:02
a bit [ __ ] you know and yeah just stuff like they just didn't pay him for 11
43:09
months and he's there crunching on this game and he's like and they've the game
43:14
contains four and a half hours of Music even though they only paid him for two
43:18
hours because they rejected music cues to get him to do more cues but then just
43:23
used all of them which is man which is not you can't do but then he's like what
43:28
am I going to do it's [ __ ] ZX like what am I going to do
43:33
like they'll just destroy me like legally so and we've talked about this
43:37
in the past too about there's there's maybe three or four guys in the world
43:41
who are working as composers who can throw their Cloud around enough to have
43:45
Studios back down you're just but and anyone who's ever worked on a film will
43:50
know especially worked as a composer will know that they don't leave room in
43:55
the budget for it and they will try to get you to do theic as for as little as
44:00
they can because it's last when we made our feature film we decided ahead of
44:04
time not to do that we we banked our composer budget at the start so that we
44:10
would have enough money to pay a good composer to do good music and we got a
44:14
good composer and he gave us good music and it's because we weren under a tough
44:18
one because there's a bit this big thing of like you put your music in do for
44:22
cheet this is good for you to put your music in our film or our game cuz it's
44:26
exposure that's a big thing generally in in film and game industry and it sucks
44:31
because it's it is there is always someone cheap yeah exactly right yeah
44:38
and so you just kind of and people say oh you know you got to stick your ground
44:42
stick you know hold your ground like well then just don't get any work
44:46
then sometimes like it's very hard yeah yeah and it's the same with voice actors
44:53
and even though there just been controver of voice acting lately which
44:56
hasn't helped voice actors I don't think no no it's all a bit of a mess with
45:01
regards to that and then and like people know who Mick Gordon is but he's like he
45:05
he doesn't have that much clout he's not like he's not Han Zimmer like you don't
45:10
[ __ ] with Han Zimmer but you can [ __ ] with some of these game composers
45:14
because how much of the music is actually Zimmer and how much is he just
45:18
signing off under I don't know about that I've read those articles too and I
45:24
I I think there's a bit of sour great it's just my opinion I mean people do
45:29
have assistance to correct and Hans gives credit to people that he does he
45:35
doesn't have to credit some of these people if he doesn't want to so I'm not
45:38
saying he's a saint or anything like that but I I feel
45:43
like he's dick whatever all artist I could be wrong I could be wrong you know
45:48
Michelangelo didn't paint every stroke on the S Chapel himself he had like a
45:51
dozen painters working for him he was the director of it he told him where to
45:56
put which color and I think even if H Zimmer says to a I
46:00
don't know to a bassoonist come up with a little bit to go under this here's
46:04
here's what the theme is then you can hardly say he didn't compose the whole
46:08
thing I've brought this up before I don't understand music it makes no sense
46:12
to me how people could go off and go I've written this it doesn't work it's
46:17
all music has been written and is done there only so many notes paked at skulla PE at
46:23
skull yeah the the only the last truly original
46:28
band yeah no I yeah no I still don't get
46:32
how Matt can do it yeah me either go away of I don't get it glad he can do
46:39
and made it sound good yeah here you go speaking of voice actors though uh
46:45
there's some sad geek of the weak news yeah I this happened today in fact
46:51
happened just now just brioke I uh I I mean we do have
46:57
two other candidates in of one of them is a joke oh two of them might be jokes
47:02
well I mean they're both true they're all true yeah but I think I'd be
47:07
surprised if Kevin Conroy does not get geek of the week this week just not not
47:12
to influence you there Luke but I cannot wait to hear what your push back on this
47:17
might be if there is any I'm looking at the photo in the article and it's like a
47:22
photo of him from 2017 it looks like he died a long time ago well he yeah that's
47:27
a very old photo too I don't think that's even a new photo for 2017 but
47:32
uh yeah I I didn't know he was sick and the article does say it was a short
47:38
battle with cancer so I guess this was because I didn't I mean not that I
47:43
follow the career of Kevin Conroy but I mean I know who he is and I feel like I
47:47
would have heard about it but I guess it was was quite he a smoker quite recent
47:52
that's why he sounds like Batman you don't yeah you don't get the Batman
47:55
voice just by yeah if you don't know who Kevin Conroy is you do he's the voice of
48:01
Batman in [ __ ] anything that's good yeah unless it's one of the movies like
48:06
you know Dark Knight or whatever no starting in Batman the Animated
48:09
Series um and I was just playing um Arkham night the other day and thinking
48:14
[ __ ] this guy's awesome so good at Batman yeah I don't think it's it's not
48:19
possible let those women out of your
48:24
basement oh do I have I got a text right that says like this is like this is to
48:30
keep me from getting annoyed I guess this is from Jenna sorry but lra is
48:33
leading this so dot dot dot oh okay it's my daughter's fault so I can't get mad
48:40
Fair what wait you would happily get mad it's the your guest's daughter oh
48:47
[ __ ] shut up yeah yeah I I will hit a child I will hit a child I'm not hit my
48:54
child I will hit yours Sarah hit your child
49:00
no oh but he's just he's been Batman Forever yeah yeah since the90s no no no
49:06
no no no no that was Val
49:12
Kilmer [ __ ] set that up [ __ ] yeah yeah short battle with cancer I guess is
49:18
better than a long battle with cancer um but sorry to hear sorry to hear that it
49:23
just snuck up on him and and took him and 66 is not old to us cuz we're in our
49:28
40s now so um that's terrifying as well
49:33
uh yes yeah but as you said he is a heavy smoker so maybe that yeah him as
49:40
Batman and and Mark Hill is the Joker Joker is just kind of an iconic Duo now
49:44
I didn't even realize that ages way too late that that was Mark Hill doing that
49:50
yeah really I think a lot of people only really worked it out like when he was
49:55
finishing up as a joker when you that yeah cuz I think well he finished up in
50:01
one of the games in he like he went that's it I'm hanging up I'm not the
50:04
Joker yeah I think he finished and that was it yeah he'll still do it at cons
50:10
though if you ask him which is which was what I love yeah I Arkham Knight is
50:16
fantastic by the way I don't know if if I assume Luke's played it I'm not sure
50:19
if you've played it D but no I haven't played that one that entire series those
50:24
play the first one no more the tech the Arham kn has this thing where so part of
50:28
the plot is that the Joker is in your head right so you see him he just pops
50:32
out of nowhere and talks to you and stuff like that but not only that I
50:35
forgot about this until I was playing it again but like you see his face
50:39
everywhere and by that I mean you'll be walking around and then you'll turn
50:42
around and then a statue has the Joker's face and then you keep turning and then
50:47
you go what the [ __ ] you turn back and it doesn't anymore like it kind of it it
50:52
superimposes his face on like statues and and like TV screens and stuff like
50:56
that and then you just see it out of the corner your ey it's so well done and if
51:00
you're paying attention for it you won't see it it's just that thing that's when
51:03
you're just sort of you you let your guard down and then it's like you
51:07
walking along as Batman you and then you turn and then just out of the corner
51:10
there's a little little picture on the little poster on the wall and it's got
51:13
the Joker's face instead of whatever it's supposed to be and then you go what
51:16
and you look back and it's gone so good that was a great series that's why I'm
51:21
looking for the there's Rock stud who guys make they making a new game I
51:27
forget what they're making it for though let me double check these aren't on switch are
51:33
they no just the play on the Xbox I'm at the point now where
51:39
something's going to have to really be ohing me to the Xbox so rock steady
51:44
they're the ones that are making the Suicide Squad game kill the Justice oh
51:47
yeah but that doesn't look that good yeah now I've just remembered I was
51:50
excited for it doesn't look that good and then I remembered no then it's a
51:54
co-op game yeah I don't care about
51:58
Co-op unless it's Ghostbusters at some point I want to play Ghostbusters with
52:02
you guys oh yeah spirit unleashed yeah yeah I think that'll be fun okay I've
52:08
got it the only issue with the Arkham games on Xbox series X I think Arkham
52:14
Asylum is fine Arkham City has a weird thing where I think the frame rate's
52:21
locked at 45 frames a second which is unusual and I it took me a little
52:26
getting used to and Arkham Knight is unchanged from when it was on the old
52:31
Xbox I think it's 30 frames a second which doesn't upset my brain as much as
52:37
455 yeah like 4 that's weird especially trying to think if that would
52:43
be worse for you or for us with your 60 HZ and our 30z our 50 HZ yeah cuz I've
52:49
looked everywhere I trying to see like I end I played through Arkham City anyway
52:53
it was fine but um and Arkham has a thing where because it was on the one of the later
53:00
gen Xbox Ones the way it's optimized the
53:04
visually it looks a little funny because I it's hard to explain it's got a lot
53:09
going on and it looks beautiful on a not
53:12
on 4K but on a 4K screen because it's got so much going on it kind of doesn't
53:18
hold up as well that make sense yeah like took me a little bit to get used to
53:22
the the look of it I kind of would like to do another remake of it yeah I really
53:27
wish they'd patched it I it wouldn't take I I shouldn't say it wouldn't take
53:30
much but I feel like you could just let it because it it runs at 4k on the PC
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right so why can't they just make the Xbox do that too I don't know 4K 60
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frames I've seen videos of of it running in 4k 60 frames on the PC looks [ __ ]
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incredible so Luke before you go ahead and lock in um Kevin Conroy as the geek
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of the week um I've got two other candidates here um the first the first
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candidate is um Neil gaiman's marriage Neil Gaiman who we've spoken about
54:01
before um in this episode and his marriage to Amanda Palmer uh has finally
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dissolved um they you know they they were the poster the posted couple of the
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internet bloging their whole life tweeting at each other um talking about
54:21
how their marriage was an open marriage then talking about how it definitely
54:24
wasn't anymore and now and now it's definitely a super open marage I mean
54:30
it's interesting because they were so open for a long time and then it got I
54:35
clearly it got weird for them which you know whatever it's personal I think the
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problem for them is that it's been so public now and they've now this
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statement that I've I've put in the spreadsheet is basically them saying
54:46
please respect our privacy it's like oh man but now we all want to know cuz
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we've known so much and it's so hard to go from people just reading everything
54:54
about your like cuz you're posting everything now respect our Pro it's well
54:58
yeah well they they have a son together and so I can understand they don't want
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to yes you know and they've made it very clear they're going to share custody of
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the Sun and they're not going to do anything weird they don't hate each
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other no one cares about that part of it everyone wants to know who did what and
55:15
which one of you stormed out they don't care we already know Neil pissed off to
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Scotland while she was in New Zealand yeah got himself in trouble for that too
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M cuz you don't yeah police popped up at his door and said this where's the
55:31
[ __ ] Island mate there's a pandemic on why you what are you doing
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here so look um I'm not going to give Neil Gamer's marriage geek at a away
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okay okay I've got a I've got I've got the third one then that may be a
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shock okay I think we could just count ourselves lucky he's still
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alive yeah that's right as opposed to um this third one um uh
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this uh geek of the week candidate is the boy king Pharaoh Tuton Carmen um I
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thought he was already dead yeah but his body was discovered exactly 100 years
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ago this week
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oh um I I don't quite see how that I
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just thought it was worth mentioning games actually no no no he
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wasn't but he was massively into board games no joke in his tomb cuz the
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child yes correct he was 17 years old or something um but he had a like a like an
56:33
unprecedented amount of board games bury I mean yeah I got a lot of stuff for my
56:38
birthday when I was a kid that I didn't always want so I'm not going to bury you
56:41
with it though Matt well I can't do this cuz this is opening the door like what
56:45
am I meant to do in two in another year's time do I have to go back and see
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if Betty White gets bet could awake again we're not celebrating because
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we're going to discover her body they they found her body ages ago yeah oh still a
56:59
discovery we're not celebrating anniversaries of aniversary of his
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death no idea when the anniversary of his death dead body they didn't even
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really know if this guy was a real person until they found his body yeah so
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no okay so Kevin conro well he hasn't said that yet either maybe Kevin's Kevin Conroy I
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can't not give it to Kevin Conroy that's what I thought yeah
57:29
I'm jealous of he's smoking though he's dead he died of
57:35
exactly if there's anyone to not I know [ __ ] oh I still miss smoking I get it I
57:42
can't watch Mad Men cuz I'm jealous of their smoke no I am as well I am as well
57:46
I love smoking not at all if I was in America i' probably still be smoking
57:52
just cannot afford it in a Sher yeah mate go to Southeast Asia it's $2 a
57:57
packet it's it's not even $2 a cigarette here anymore I think it's Clos to 250 a
58:03
cigarette yeah cuz it's more than 50 it's it's around $50 for for a pack
58:08
which is between 20 and 25 oh man yeah that's insane I when I started smoking I
58:14
could buy a packet of 30 cigarettes for seven bucks yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean
58:20
the fact that you were buying 30s also Narrows down to which shitty [ __ ]
58:25
Dand smoking but I remember Virginia too 16
58:31
Ms from a $50 note you would get change when buying a
58:36
carton Le it wasn't Long Beach or
58:39
Horizon oh 50 pack of 50 Horizons mhm
58:44
was P ja and Virginia until they changed the way they made them and then I
58:49
switched over to benenson hedge's special filter oh yeah that's right I
58:53
when I met you I think you were smoking those cuz I remember
58:57
hardore they had to change from special fi because you can't
59:01
call cigarettes special yeah no I started with Peter Jackson as well yeah
59:07
I did when Peter Jackson they changed I switched to marro and then I I smoked
59:11
Maro right up until I didn't smoke anymore I just I started on 16s stayed
59:17
on 16s well they're not even allowed to say what it is now because you're not
59:21
allowed to imply that some are better than others for your health yeah so now
59:24
they they cut it's weird in the show the the color the boxes are all the same but
59:28
they're still color coordinated for the level so there's still Reds and blues
59:34
and stuff I don't understand though Peter Jackson extra mild I think is what
59:38
extra mild with the 12 yeah the 12 I think that's what I that's what I smoked
59:42
as well I I got the Virginia a couple of times to try to look hardcore in front
59:45
of you guys but I even even at that young age where my my lungs were Pure
59:50
White I was like I can't [ __ ] smoke this you know the worst thing about when
59:55
you back then when you're smoking when you're smoking like a stronger one is
59:59
people can bum off you cuz people will put up with a stronger one for one but
1:00:04
bu off them I can't taste this yeah like an ultramild 4 milligram or something
1:00:08
that's thought is what Dave's mom used to smoke yeah just dirty yeah that's
1:00:13
right yeah like I think by doing this I'm I'm I'm breathing in healthier air
1:00:18
because at least there's a filter on the air right yeah then emu play that's a
1:00:21
good point was there ever any like so I know I I never really understood the
1:00:25
science behind it but like was it healthier to smoke no less like oh it
1:00:31
was less unhealthy I think but I don't think the word healthier should come
1:00:34
into it no but no no there were some um there were it depends on the article you
1:00:40
read There were some articles that said that lower the milligram um the more
1:00:43
you're actually inhaling into your lungs because you're actually inhaling deeper
1:00:47
I think it's what it came down to is how addicted you are I think the higher the
1:00:51
milligram the higher the Nico count so I think you may been I thought it was
1:00:56
not n oh whatever I don't know yeah we never bothered to figure that out no we
1:01:02
didn't care fell yeah wasn't wasn't a factor you don't want to look into it
1:01:07
because it's all just this is going to kill you uh me saying
1:01:11
relative reminded me just cuz my brain made a connection the other week I I I
1:01:16
stupidly was using the word subjective when I was talking about Kanye when I
1:01:19
meant objective and probably you guys no and I think you guys knew what I meant and didn't
1:01:26
correct me but I listened to it back and I was like you sound like a [ __ ] so
1:01:29
I just like R Kanye sounds like a dick yeah I think when you're talking about
1:01:35
Kanye it doesn't matter oh maybe he infected me somewhat and I was saying
1:01:39
the wrong word but listeners I did mean objective when I said he's been quiet
1:01:43
this week has he thank there's not there's no followup this week no but
1:01:47
there's there's Elon Musk followup um is it dirty we don't have to talk about SE
1:01:53
because we're ready for the after party yeah it's not we just be quick right I
1:01:57
think as far as Twitter's concerned I'm just gonna like we could stop talking
1:02:01
about it for now because he's just [ __ ] around it's we're going to have
1:02:05
to talk about this every week and that's probably what he wants so they like they
1:02:10
had additional verification things there were two tick marks for like two hours
1:02:15
and then he he took that away and then now they're even taking back the whole
1:02:18
$8 verification thing that they put out like they've canceled that he's just and
1:02:23
he's told all the staff basically we are in dire financial trouble so yeah and I
1:02:30
have throwing [ __ ] at the wall and probably this company won't exist see I
1:02:34
quite like the I sort of like the idea of the verification that paying a fee I
1:02:39
don't think it should be a monthly fee but I say there's no issue in getting
1:02:42
that tick to go this is who I am I don't I can't see but the problem
1:02:49
is that people who who actually should be verified won't bother paying for it
1:02:54
and it's just scammers which is what happening now look look at the mess
1:02:57
that's on there now with all these fake Nintendo accounts and there's people
1:03:01
thing that's the the annoying thing about the tick that they're paying for
1:03:04
it but they're not being verified they're paying and you're getting a tick
1:03:08
yeah but people don't understand the Nuance like the general public doesn't
1:03:12
understand the Nuance like we know that this is all silly but now you've got
1:03:16
like for example there was one was it the company that sells insulin there was
1:03:19
a account registered with a similar name Chang the name of the account to the
1:03:24
name with paid the $8 got a tick tweeted insulin will now be free right yeah the
1:03:30
company had to release a press release to say that's not us and it won't be but
1:03:35
that that there the thing that's that's what I'm that's what I mean like they
1:03:38
shouldn't be able to pay that money to get a tick and then impersonate someone
1:03:42
else that's not the idea the problem is Twitter can't keep up with it that's why
1:03:45
this whole that's people are saying now like he's trying stuff that Twitter knew
1:03:49
was stupid that's why they didn't do it because you can't keep up with it yeah
1:03:53
like you need to uh more for like pay the fee you get verified you get the
1:03:58
tick but you're verified as you right or your business not uh I've got this tick
1:04:04
and I can now change my name to anything under the sun yeah cuz he's saying oh if
1:04:07
you if you if you pay the $8 and you say you're someone you're not we'll ban you
1:04:11
it's like okay but you've got to figure out that I'm doing that first and that
1:04:15
like 5 million people are now doing it like good luck and also you fired half
1:04:19
the staff so who the [ __ ] is going to who's going to stop me yeah and how long
1:04:24
is it going to take to stop me before I can do damage it's just it's all a bit
1:04:28
silly all because he made a joke that he was going to buy Twitter so anyway I
1:04:33
I'll link to some stuff in the show notes if you want to see all the stuff
1:04:35
he's been up to but I think most people know and everyone's I've gotten sick of
1:04:38
it to be honest I did like the the the Mario one where Mario was given the bird
1:04:43
and someone said Mario would never do that and then the account tweeted back well he
1:04:47
did so funny and it's just Nintendo with a l instead of a i that's how they but
1:04:54
they got the tick cuz they with a tick so it looks totally legit so man I I'm
1:04:59
agree with you I I don't want to hear about it I can't look at elong musk's
1:05:04
face anymore I can't even look at a Tesla anymore I honestly it's he's doing
1:05:09
such damage to his his reputation one thing I've just read I did see this
1:05:14
there but so he's he wants all his stuff to go back into what does he have
1:05:18
against people working remotely when he has to work remotely it's not like he's
1:05:23
going into the office of Tesla and Twitter every day because it's not
1:05:27
possible yeah well he did say there was that the other problem too is that like
1:05:33
I saw a thing that was was this is a letter that he wrote and he said if you
1:05:36
can't get in the office that's fine I saw another thing that said if you don't
1:05:39
turn up in the office resignation accepted it's like what's true I don't
1:05:42
know anymore because I can't tell which account is [ __ ] verified on Twitter
1:05:47
but I know this isn't the first time because I know at Tesla he was he said
1:05:51
out the article of everyone you get back in the office yeah so this would follow
1:05:56
along with that but I just yeah what's he got against it uh I mean apparently
1:06:01
there was a culture issue at Twitter which might be true maybe everybody was
1:06:06
just lazy and so he's like no [ __ ] you it's possible I don't know I don't
1:06:10
really know I guess that's the problem is we don't know anything it's just all
1:06:14
we all we can react to is his knee-jerk reaction to everything honestly it's
1:06:18
just embarrassing at this point that they're just announcing stuff and then
1:06:22
two hours later unannounced it and yeah
1:06:26
and then someone said um he's going to realize in a couple of weeks that
1:06:31
actually people can do chargebacks on their credit cards for the $8 if he bans
1:06:36
their account within 90 days and so Twitter is just going to be even more
1:06:40
financial trouble yep so anyway cuz yeah I go in I spend the eight bucks I do
1:06:46
whatever I want calls that Havoc for week I get banned I charge it back and
1:06:49
just say look I paid for a thing and then they they've banned me credit card
1:06:53
company's going to refund you and then he going to have to pay the $8 back plus
1:06:57
a a fee mhm anyway yeah so yeah I yeah he's jumped in too quickly he needs to
1:07:04
understand that a lot of the things that he's doing they would have disc
1:07:07
discussions about yeah oh but he fired all the people that had the discussions
1:07:12
yeah they could have told Hing some of them that around and yeah oh the other
1:07:15
ones apparently too some some of the one of the legal head legal people at
1:07:20
Twitter's apparently resigned but not before putting in slack that guys the
1:07:24
stuff he's asking you to do is probably a legal concern for you right because
1:07:29
when this all goes to [ __ ] he's just going to start pointing fingers he says
1:07:32
so I'm I'm I'm resigning you guys just have a good think about whether you want
1:07:36
to do this [ __ ] so speaking of jumping in should we jump
1:07:43
into the Afterparty and listeners if you don't know what the Afterparty is head
1:07:45
to patreon.com multip nerdgasm to find out yes and give us money we won't ban
1:07:52
you though no it's not $8 either it's $10 should we change it to $8 in solidarity with
1:07:58
Elon maybe you could be verified on podcast verified list is it
1:08:05
$10 us or $10 Australian oh that's I I don't know we we never talked about this
1:08:10
but they started they're going to start charging people tax in their region too
1:08:13
so I don't know if Australian listeners I don't know if you get charged tax I'm
1:08:16
sorry if you do I don't know how that works GST do you g you can't charge GST
1:08:22
on top of on top of an price I believe yeah Luke you it's different for
1:08:29
international stuff yeah for international stuff but but for for
1:08:32
Aussie stuff yeah but patreon's probably International oh true yeah I do have it
1:08:38
set up for us a true blue Aussie podcast that's true yeah I know but I live here
1:08:43
and my money is here and that's why I want it yeah and Luke and I don't have
1:08:47
any money as we've already discussed mhm yeah and you're not getting any right [ __ ]
1:08:54
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