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3 Guys Before The Game - Happy New Year (Episode 517) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  sir, so if the show started, thank you, I did get
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  some money on one of the things. The show has started. Ladies and
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  gentlemen, welcome in. This is Three Guys Before the Game, episode number
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  five hundred and seventeen. It's our Happy New Year edition of the show.
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  We record on January the second, which oftentimes begs the question how long do
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  you say Happy New Year to someone? Today might be it, Today's it,
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  Today might be it. We'll get into it. Some people take that
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  baby all the way to February. Now it feels like February. This has
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  been a long year already. With day here we go. Three Guys brought
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  Days it longer. Now, days are longer. Thank you, Hoppy h
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  an individual level, you could also spend some time digging into that. Thanks
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  for being with us. Here we go. So on this program, we
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  are going to look back at Saturday's game between West Virginia and a Highest State
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  in Cleveland, and we will also focus on the WV women's basketball team.
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  All they do is just win. They've got Cincinnata coming into the coliseum for
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  their Big twelve home opener tomorrow as we record, which is Wednesday, it'll
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  be Wednesday, the third when they play. We're recording January two, and
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  then the WV women get a tough test against Texas on Saturday here at Lake
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  Halise de Mont Boulevard, and they'll have those two under their belt before they
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  go back out of the big week. Got to make sure you don't look
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  past Cincinnata on Wednesday, right, You got to keep that great focused here.
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  You got to win that one before you get to the big wine against
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  Texas. Were you over there today or was you overdy? Call? It's
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  done some times practice facillity. What did they have going talk to coach Kellub?
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  What'd they have going on? A little clinic going on? Did a
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  day? All the players were out, all the coaches. They do a
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  great job with that so that the young children in our county are not in
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  school. You don't go back on January two, then, uh no,
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  they're not out in today. When do they go back back to summer?
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  Back tomorrow? Others are back later in the week. Got it. It
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  was a good time. Get some working, get some shots up. Sure,
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  start to new your hoppy, get some shots up over the facility.
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  Sure, So men's team was in there getting some weights up. Yeah,
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  so it's a lot going on, a lot of activity. Jan two,
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  Jan two, Yeah, good deal, all right, so hoppy, everything's
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  good with you? Yeah? Up or down? At midnight? Were you
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  awake or not awake? Not awake? Yeah, good awaken? Senator up?
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  Oh interesting, I was down? So three were down? Two?
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  I don't care. Three guys was one two two, one two to one
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  sleeping at the stroke of midnight. You know, we were all three of
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  us were very busy during the holiday period, not complaining, just making note
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  of it. So that Christmas, Christmas Eve, New Year's even ne Year's
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  Day, they were just sort of like days. You know. It wasn't
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  like, hey, it just sort of was today, Oh it's New Year's
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  Okay, what are we doing? I mean, honestly, and again,
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  that's part of our job. It's it's a busy time of year for us.
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  So it wasn't it just it just all got away from me, goes
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  by quick, so cool. I tried to make a point to stay up.
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  I wasn't doing anything, just me and my oldest daughter in the living
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  room watching, But I always trying to make a point to stay up on
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  New Year's I mean, that's cool. That's good. Yeah, that's fine.
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  Did take a nap earlier in the day, though able to make it.
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  I still couldn't because I didn't make it. I didn't make it through
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  the end of the last playoff game last night. Who could that's even when
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  I started like what eleven forty five Eastern time A little earlier than that.
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  Not much. No, hey, speaking of time. Yeah, we came
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  back from the Ohio State game on Saturday and he was He rode with Hunter
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  and I was on the team bus. So I texted him or almost to
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  the coliseum and I said, you guys home yet, and he says,
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  we're an hour out? Okay, because they had their own little thing that
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  they got into and uh what does that mean? Hunter took Hunter had to
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  write a story before they could, So I said, okay. So then
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  I get to the coliseum, I take off. I'm driving home and I
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  called him, knowing that he was still on the road, and I said,
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  hey, big boy, I said, how you like this travel stuff?
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  You remember this pretty good? Huh? Two o'clock in the morning,
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  how are we doing all right? So I just figured I didn't need to
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  stay up at midnight for New Year's because I'll be up past midnight. A
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  good number, yes, a good point next several weeks. But I will
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  say this though, I kind of forget how close Cleveland is. It's really
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  not a bad trip at all. Get over there for some Calves games.
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  Yeah, over games, we're going to go. We talked to Gansey for
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  a little but got to catch up with him. But it's really easy to
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  get to that arena too. It's right off then gone and gone. And
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  we were supposed to go when Beelin was the coach. We never went until
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  we screwed that up. A good place for a show. That was a
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  good That was a good That was a good trip. The kid. The
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  team practiced in the Cavaliers practice facility Friday and ganzy Uh was there. I
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  spent I spent like almost the entire time we were there just chatting him up
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  and what he got, what you get? I mean, he's got a
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  lot, He got a lot. He's got four kids from seven until two,
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  seven aged seven to two. You got one boy, and that young
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  man is five and he says he got bit by the basketball bug. And
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  now he when they're watching the games, he'll say, Okay, which one's
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  that one? Who's that one, Who's that one? So he's got the
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  he's got the bug and uh but just a fantastic facility that they have there
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  and they got everything and anything that you could imagine. So it's Mike.
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  Mike's been traveling a lot. He said to me that he goes to Australia
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  like some people go to Charlotte. Yeah, he said. He's in the
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  top couple of GMS in terms of guys that still get out and do their
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  own live in in person scouting. Yes, he still likes to do that
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  quite a bit. I asked him. I said, Okay, dude,
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  you've been all over the place. Best city, like, where do you
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  go? Like, what's the city? He said, Perth, Australia.
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  Really not even close, not even close, he says, But how about
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  this, So I guess when he's in Melbourne, that's a five hour flight
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  to get the Perth. He says, it is. It's a big country,
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  continent and a country and a country. So he said it's but he
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  said, Perth not even close, not even close. Interesting, but yeah,
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  So he goes to Australia because he says there will be a lot of
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  guys coming out of Australia in this upcoming draft. And then we went to
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  the Bucks game on Saturday Friday night against the Calves thanks to him, and
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  that's a whole different kind of show and that way they play that game is
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  just a different game and it's just different people. It's just different different personnel,
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  body types, body types of skill, speed. Crazy watching Giannis warm
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  up and then watching them bring that ball up the floor. People I don't
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  think have I don't think people have appreciation. How think about what he's doing.
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  Just stop and think about how big he is bringing the ball up the
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  floor. Yes, it's like what you know. The perspective on that is
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  go out today and stand at the baseline and dribble and see how long it
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  takes you to get to half court. I mean they get the ball and
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  like it's like four strides and they're in one. Yeah, when they're in
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  the front corner in a hurry. They got twenty four seconds get that thing
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  off. So you know that that was a good event. I thought they
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  did a nice job with that. Those There were three games there with three
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  real well really four regional teams in the three games ended up being a pretty
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  good crowd. The West Virginia High State crowd was excellent, better than just
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  okay, that was really good. That had a an NCAA tournament feel to
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  it, with a near fifty to fifty crowd back and forth. But even
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  earlier in the day you got two good games before West Virginia took the floor
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  and it ended up being just a nice atmosphere, a good day event.
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  Yeah like that event. I like that arena too, It's good arena.
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  All right. Let's let's jump in on the Mountaineers and Ohio State. Statistically,
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  this isn't spreadon stats here, this is just well, let me just
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  rephrase because I don't want to I don't want to jump into spreads on stats,
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  so quick. Uh. Take away on the game, take away on
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  the to the game. Yes, take away on the game was unfortunate and
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  disappointing. Much like we said after the Virginia game that you were right there
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  with a chance to beat what's a what's a really good team and I think
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  will continue to be a good team this season in the Big Ten. You're
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  right there and had your opportunities. So it really just came down to a
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  couple lost possessions at the end, a couple of bad no calls. Just
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  to be frank, they flat out missed a couple of those, and the
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  margin of air is so thin you can't afford to have those couple of possessions
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  coupled with the miss calls and you can't walk out of there with a win.
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  Overall, I think that team should be thrilled. Josh Eilers should be
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  thrilled with the effort that they gave, the fact they got down early,
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  battled back in you saw battle again. We joked about can you give twenty
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  nine again? Dude gets twenty four and basically at one half of action,
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  you got some role player contribution. I thought, Pat Sumnik, you could
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  have made the case for player of the game. And I'm being serious on
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  how well he played defensively, offensively finished at the basket. How many finishes
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  did he have? At least three right where he got an assist and took
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  it up strong to the basket. So you got you got some efforts from
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  some people that were that were good. It's just unfortunate for that group to
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  get another little boost to confidence. It would have been nice to walk out
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  of there with the win if that, If that had been the first game
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  of the year and for whatever reason, you were playing Ohio State. You
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  come away very enthused, say, oh this this team's got a chance,
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  this team's got potential. And in a couple of weeks are you going to
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  get Edwards back. Let's say that Edward's injury happened at the beginning of the
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  season. You say, by the time you get the January league play,
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  you'll be ready to go. But instead the seasons seasons like starting now with
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  the current lineup, and you don't have Edwards for another several weeks. That's
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  the hard part though, because it really was an essence. You could look
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  at it as game four, right, because it becomes as we keep saying,
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  and it was evident again the other night with crease of ferrikhon in battle.
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  It is so guard dominant with those guys without Jesse Edwards. See I
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  say it's season game four of the season, it's really still exhibition because you
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  don't have Jesse Edwards back yet. So that's part of it too. Guys
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  are still learning how to play together. I thought in the second half,
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  especially Tony, that looked more cohesive than it had up to that point.
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  I think they're starting to figure out what works, what offense, how to
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  do, what sets to come up with. I thought they had some great
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  play calls down the stretch, and then that zone defense. You may have
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  found something there though, who knows if that's an individual matchup thing, but
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  that zone, Tony, they went zoned for much of that game and it
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  turned the entire game around. The other night, ye Ohio State struggles for
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  whatever reason, I don't quite know why they struggle against two three zone.
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  They did against Penn State a couple of other occasions this season, and it
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  continues to take them out of what they like to do. So that did
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  work. One of the other observations is for one of the rare times a
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  player's hype leading into a season is actually a reality, and that's Raekwon Battle.
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  He's just a dude. He is a basketball player. He is a
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  scorer. He's explosive, he's athletic, he can hit you. He just
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  really really good. But the guy that we didn't talk about because he didn't
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  think he was going to play this year was no affair. Con how about
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  this cat? Huh? How about this cat? He's got a lot of
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  skills there. He just basketballs. He just goes out there in basketballs.
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  I mean, you talk about the addition of that tandem. If you didn't
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  have those guys, if that court case didn't go in the favor of West
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  Virginia, you wouldn't be sitting here talking about one that got away. You'd
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  be sitting here talking about one you just got beat by twenty. So it's
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  gonna be fun to watch these guys continued to go, and then with the
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  addition of Edwards, you know, third week probably of this month he comes
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  back, then you see what you got. If that's on track with Jesse
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  Edwards, that's obviously gonna help a ton, you know, Hoppy. One
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  of the questions we've had with this team in the last couple of games since
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  Jesse Edwards went out was, Okay, who's gonna get on the glass?
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  How do you rebound? A couple things came out of that Ohio State game
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  if you can pick them up and move them forward, which you know,
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  I know I always say you can't necessarily assume that, but you found a
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  little bit there, and we said to the guards are gonna have to get
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  more involved. They're just gonna have to drop down and start to help.
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  Raykwon Battle gave you ten rebounds. Wow, Between Farah Khan and Krisa you
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  had eight combined. So that's eighteen rebounds just from those three guys. Josiah
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  had Or Josiah Harris stepped up had six rebounds himself. So I thought,
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  really in that second half, after getting smashed on the glass in the first
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  half, the second half, they did a great job of multiple guys getting
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  back in there and helping out. But the battle one is one to keep
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  an eye on. He did a great job on the glass. Huge point.
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  Don't know if one night makes a difference, or for that matter,
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  one half makes the difference, But could that be the moment that collectively this
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  WVU basketball team learned the importance and the significance of getting rebounds. They outrebounded
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  Ohio State in the second half. They end up losing the battle of the
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  boards by one. They were getting crashed and crushed on the glass two thirds
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  of the way through the first half. Okay, twelve to one offensive rebounds
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  at halftime twelve one in favor of Ohio State. So does that become Can
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  that become a norm where they just absolutely crash the glass and go get it.
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  It has to be otherwise it'll be long nights change the game. Along
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  with that zone defense, the other part of that zone was it had some
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  unique principles to it. They did some different things out of it, especially
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  up top, which it actually forced Ohio State to have to almost go into
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  a man demand offense to beat it. So you wonder if Josh goes to
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  that zone a little more often with those tweaks, if that becomes something you
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  can rely upon a little more defensively. Yeah, you can do something.
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  You can do several different things out of that. So that's where it is.
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  Not where you want to be, not where you want to be,
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  But I commend them based upon the circumstances for the effort. And here comes
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  Houston. I was gonna say, I'm glad you got an easy one coming
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  up, kind of yeah, gets your feet on you. Yeah, Yeah,
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  it's Big twelve is what the Big twelve usually is a lot of easy
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  ones coming up. So you go Houston, you go case State, and
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  you go Texas, Case State and Texas will be here a Tuesday Saturday next
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  week with Kansas lurking, Kansas lurking coming up just and after that after two
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  here you go on the road midweek game at Oklahoma. It'll be the last
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  time West Virginia plays at Oklahoma. Who are a story this season. They
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  went into the year and Porter Moser's ten uere They were kind of going like,
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  why isn't this the guy that was like loyalishic find final four and they
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  had the sisters sitting on the side, We're waiting for that to happen.
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  Well, it's happened. He's a good coach, right, Good coaches just
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  sometimes takes them a little time. Good coaches find ways to win. So
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  they're they're going to be a handful. And then you come back and you
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  got the kansases here the one and only meeting. West Virginia does not go
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  to Allen Field House this coming season, So here we go. The women
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  went to the Allen Field House. They did rolled them them a slap job.
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  Kansas had played a Kansas had played a really good schedule. They had
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  already played played Connecticut. They had played Virginia Tech, who was in the
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  Final four last year. They played Penn State, who West Virginia had played.
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  They played a very quality schedule. If you just looked at the two
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  schedules, you'd say, like, well, that team Kansas is better tested.
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  And that's not Mark Kellogg's fault because remember when we had Mark in here,
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  they didn't have a schedule. Yeah, took the job. It was
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  like there were no games and so they had to find game. So it
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  wasn't the schedule that they'll they'll they'll normally get. So anyway, what do
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  you say we do a little bit of this? Are you ready for spreads
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  on stats? I am might have a little different twist on it today.
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  Excuse me, might have a different twist on it. What does that mean?
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  Gonna appow some new ground, new year, new ground? Wow,
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  you were just talking about Mark Kellog and the women's basketball team with their hot
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  start. We're having a little spreads on stats with the women's basketball is this
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  is this kind of like a don neeling. You either get better, you
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  get worse. You don't stay the same. That's why you're transitioning here in
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  twenty four, just trying to do new stuff. Appreciate bringing new content to
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  All right, let's talk aboutle women's basketball. Hobey. Yes, Tony just
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  said they're off to a blistering hot start. You know what they're doing?
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  Well, that was that was what led me to this. What what are
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  they doing well? Steal the ball? How about? The answer is literally
• 21:52
  everything that helps? Hoppy. I just want you to I do this occasionally
• 21:56
  with yes, green is good. Red is not so good. You can
• 21:59
  see from over there, this is West Virginia over here. Is there any
• 22:03
  green there? It's all green. It's all green. I see one maybe
• 22:07
  two. That's not Everything is green, and that's kind of pink. It's
• 22:11
  not even red. Yeah, it's unbelievable. The season and the start they've
• 22:14
  It helps when you're doing everything well, it does. That's how that leads
• 22:17
  to wins. Usually. Yeah, everything well, high level analysis there.
• 22:19
  Offensive rating would be in the top eight percent if that rating holds, which
• 22:23
  again we know the competition is gonna get tougher. They're going to enter Big
• 22:26
  twelve play that league's very good as well, but top eight percent nationally offensively
• 22:32
  if that rating were to hold, how about the defensive rating that would be
• 22:36
  in the top one percent nationally if it holds. So they're guarding and they're
• 22:40
  scoring on the other end, points off turnovers per game they are in the
• 22:44
  one hundredth percentile. That is that good. Yeah, that's pretty good,
• 22:48
  right, Yeah, fast break points ninety seventh percentile, Assists per game ninety
• 22:55
  third percentile. I mean, it's it's unbelievable when you start to look at
• 22:57
  these numbers. They basket ball, well, now get into this a little
• 23:02
  bit. They really play modern day basketball that we talk about a lot.
• 23:04
  If you look at their shooting heat map, they're very good at the rim
• 23:08
  and from three. So we talk about that rim and three point rate a
• 23:11
  lot. But how about these shooting numbers. Sixty six percent field goal percentage
• 23:15
  at the rim, which is defined by the database I use is within four
• 23:19
  and a half feet of the basket. Sixty six percent. Okay, put
• 23:23
  that in context. The national average in women's basketball is fifty seven percent,
• 23:27
  so they're nine percent above shooting percentage close to the rim. They're forty percent
• 23:33
  from three, from the top of the key and the wings, so the
• 23:37
  main area, everything but the corners, west Virginia's forty percent from three national
• 23:41
  average thirty one percent, So they're doing a good job of not only getting
• 23:45
  the rim, but finishing and also hitting threes. Defensively, teams are just
• 23:51
  shooting twenty seven percent against West Virginia from that same three point area the wings
• 23:56
  in the top of the key. Wow, that's a wow. All right,
• 23:59
  Now, let's talk individually, because they've got some players that are performing
• 24:02
  at a really high level three and double figures. Jordan Harrison, JJ Quinnerley,
• 24:07
  and Lauren Fields. Harrison and JJ average a combined nine and a half
• 24:11
  assists per game. So you got a backcourt that's almost ten assists per game.
• 24:15
  How about this. I know you like to refer to assist to turnover
• 24:18
  ratio a lot from point guards. If two to one's good, two to
• 24:21
  one is good, two to one is good. How six to one that
• 24:25
  would be spectacular. That's Jordan Harrison six to one right now, turnover to
• 24:27
  assist ration? Sure? Here? Number? What is it? What to
• 24:30
  what? Six to one is? What? Like? Does she have how
• 24:33
  many games played? They played twelve games? Yeah, so does she have
• 24:37
  sixty assists yet? See if I can get a total number, I'm looking
• 24:41
  at sixty to ten. That cat from Ohio State the other night. How
• 24:45
  many games they play? They played twelve, haven't they. She's averaging she's
• 24:48
  averaging six assists per game. Oh, she's seventy some Yeah, no,
• 24:52
  I'm sorry, she's two to one. I did that wrong. Two to
• 24:53
  one. It's all excited about that, two to one, two h But
• 25:00
  what jumped to me is nine and a half ISAs because Quinnley's one of your
• 25:03
  main scores, right still averaging three and a half assists there, So nine
• 25:06
  and a half assists between those two players. Here's some other wild numbers.
• 25:10
  Now you want to get really in the weeds. Oh yeah, sure,
• 25:11
  all right, really down in the weeds. I've got time. Fifty seven
• 25:15
  percent of Kaya Watson's field goals have come off an assist from Harrison, fifty
• 25:21
  seven percent. Thirty seven percent of lauren Field's field goals have come off an
• 25:26
  assist from Harrison. Lauren Fields is really filling it right now. Thirty four
• 25:30
  percent of JJ's field goals have come off an assist from Harrison. So there's
• 25:36
  three players right that right there where more than one third of their baskets are
• 25:40
  coming from the distribution of the point guard Jordan Harrison. So they got multiple
• 25:44
  players playing at a really high level. There's the point. Yeah, let
• 25:47
  me say this, has anyone just stopped and paused. Had Mark Kellogg when
• 25:53
  he came in, had six players that potentially could have left instant eligibility because
• 26:00
  because you had a coaching change, if those six players walked, this thing
• 26:06
  could have been absolutely exon Veld's just crushed into the ground, just run into
• 26:14
  the ground. But instead they stayed and I would think he's thrilled, and
• 26:18
  I would think they're thrilled, right, they got to be thrilled, Like,
• 26:22
  gosh, I'm glad we just showed a little patience here and listen to
• 26:26
  this dude and see what they had for us. We're in, we're in
• 26:29
  the top twenty five, and here we go. Couldn't have written a better
• 26:32
  script for a first year coach to come in. And you know, it's
• 26:36
  kind of a two way street. Not only does he have their attention now
• 26:40
  because it's one of those you've started like that you say, okay, see
• 26:42
  our staff knows what we're doing. Listen and buy in. But if you
• 26:45
  ask him, he'd tell you the reverse is also true and that's why you're
• 26:49
  to the points you are because they bought in right away. He really likes
• 26:52
  his team, thinks they get along, grade together, they're playing great,
• 26:55
  they listen well. So it's almost been the reverse. They bought in right
• 26:57
  from the beginning, for they had evidence, and that's part of why they're
• 27:02
  where they are in this point in the season, which leads to a whole
• 27:04
  another layer up that when these transitions happen, they are unbelievably hard because what
• 27:14
  you're asking to do is so Mark comes in and there's six players here,
• 27:19
  and he's going to bring in some of those that he knows of and that
• 27:23
  he's going to bring his in, and so you bring in two different cultures
• 27:29
  and mindsets of players. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to gel like it
• 27:34
  is oftentimes. And we've seen this a lot in football where you know,
• 27:40
  and we can just we might as well say, like when Dana was here,
• 27:44
  when Neil inherited it, like you had guys say, well, those
• 27:48
  are Dana's guys, and then you had Neil's guys, and that when you're
• 27:51
  doing football and you got one hundred plus kids on your team, I mean
• 27:55
  there's a lot and it's hard. It's very, very hard. And my
• 28:03
  point to all that is your coaching staff in wvu's women's coaching staff has done
• 28:08
  a fabulous job of coming in and finding a way for everyone to play nice
• 28:15
  figuratively and literally, and that's why they're having the success. If you had
• 28:21
  factions or clicks right now, this thing isn't working, and sometimes it takes
• 28:26
  a couple of years in order for those to leave. Then you get all
• 28:30
  of your kids in now, then you can play. Well, he's getting
• 28:33
  it in year one, so that is the double booster bonus that you don't
• 28:38
  normally get, and he's got right now. He's got ten players that are
• 28:41
  averaging nine to ten minutes or more per game. So that's the other thing
• 28:45
  this start has done. It's allowed him to play a bunch of people in
• 28:48
  there and get some experience. So it couldn't literally couldn't script it any better
• 28:52
  for for sure, and he would have gotten a pass, right I mean,
• 28:56
  right now they were five hundred go I was first year, I mean,
• 29:00
  and rightfully so should of course, of course, And that's why it
• 29:03
  makes this tony with the numbers you gave. I mean, this is one
• 29:07
  of the stories of the year in West Virginia support sports so far because it
• 29:11
  is surprising. Maybe maybe he's not surprised and the players aren't surprised, but
• 29:14
  I think from outside looking in, you're surprised they are as good as they
• 29:17
  are because of the situation that he inherited. Yeah, I'll give you another
• 29:22
  football analogy. You know, Neil said something interesting after the I don't know
• 29:26
  if it was I think it was after the bowl game or leading up to
• 29:30
  the bowl game. Think was after the bowl game about how these receivers,
• 29:33
  the receiver room, how these kids all get along and everything that's good,
• 29:37
  and it wasn't always like that. The reality of it is they did not
• 29:42
  have a good room. They did not have a good room. His first
• 29:47
  couple of years, you had some guys that just did not buy in.
• 29:51
  Whether they're they're they're just leave it at that. They just did not buy
• 29:55
  in and that led to what you had well. And he talked, I
• 29:57
  mean, he's talked candidly about that. He said in his interview, his
• 30:02
  press interview at the bowl game, about how much bread, how much better
• 30:04
  the locker room was than a year ago. Matter of fact, you know
• 30:07
  where I heard it. What I heard it driving up the road when you
• 30:11
  had him on on Thursday morning last week on my coffee clatch. Yeah,
• 30:15
  that's what he said. I mean, he doesn't come out and blatantly say
• 30:18
  it, but like it just wasn't good these guys now, I mean,
• 30:23
  well you saw it all year. You saw it. It was evident.
• 30:26
  And you can't unless you're just supremely talented where you can afford to have giant
• 30:33
  egos and guys all over the place emotionally no bread. If you're just you
• 30:38
  have to have buy in. You have to have people generally getting along.
• 30:42
  You have to have that kind of spirit, otherwise it doesn't take. But
• 30:47
  only a couple guys can voulu you up? So true? And isn't it?
• 30:52
  Isn't it wild when you talk about chemistry, because it's it's really hard
• 30:56
  to find teams that achieve a high level of success that don't have good chemistry.
• 31:00
  But just like Mark says, right there, which which comes first?
• 31:03
  Does the winning create good chemistry or do you have to have the good chemistry
• 31:07
  that most people don't see that turns into wins. And then you hear on
• 31:11
  the back end after a team went, hey, they have great chemistry,
• 31:14
  they really like each other. Right, that's a really hard one. Then
• 31:17
  there's listen, there's some coaches that recruit and try and match that chemistry up
• 31:21
  a little bit better. I think that's easier to do in the basketball side
• 31:25
  of things when there's less numbers. That's harder on the football side. But
• 31:29
  you just rarely find a team that's successful that you say, you know what,
• 31:32
  the locker room really sucks. Locker rooms is not very good. But
• 31:34
  you won ten football games. That just doesn't happen. But it's hard to
• 31:37
  find. Yeah. Absolutely, you talk about the teams that won this weekend.
• 31:41
  Michigan, all they're talking about is their chemistry. Washington, all they
• 31:47
  talk about is their chemistry. I mean, you can sense it, you
• 31:49
  can get a feel for that, you can sense that, and that's why
• 31:53
  you have these unbelievable seasons when that happens. Michigan, one of the top
• 32:00
  blue blood programs in America, was able to was able to put together this
• 32:07
  US against the world mentality because of everything that went on right, Michigan,
• 32:13
  of all programs, was able to do that. Yeah, anybody respects us.
• 32:17
  Everybody's out to get us, out to get this that and the other
• 32:21
  thing come along and then go out and have lousy special teams and beat Alabama?
• 32:29
  They did. Could you have been worse on special teams? We'd be
• 32:34
  hard, all right, But you know that came down made plays. We'll
• 32:37
  get into that. We'll get into that in just a uh, just a
• 32:39
  little bit. Spreads on stats brought to us by the Conley CPA group.
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  You ready for some healing. You feel the need to heal, some textual
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  healing. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Yes, you weren't following along there?
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  No, I'm fine. Was Does here be going down legislative session pretty
• 32:57
  soon next week? To stop their Gomart flatwo always always Hopy has a Gomart
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  go in there for snacks. He tries to eat healthy. He'll go in
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  there. He'll get one of them kind bars and a big big bag of
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  card at thegomartgomart dot com. You might see Hoppy if it's just right at
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  the Flatwood's location when he whips up and down Interstate seventy nine on his way
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  to the Capital City heard something yesterday for the first time. Didn't know this,
• 33:35
  didn't know this people this time. It's cold and flu season. Yes,
• 33:42
  people that suffer from like heavy, heavy coughs when they have a cold,
• 33:46
  heavy heavy coughs, go to bed, can't sleep, get up coughing.
• 33:52
  I just says the word I started. This is true. Doctor recommends
• 33:59
  not to cough at right, not making this up. Eat a big jumbo
• 34:04
  marshmallow before you go to bed. What now? I'm sorry if you have
• 34:08
  coughing spells and you have a cold or cough and you just can't stop coughing,
• 34:15
  doctor says, don't know why it exists, don't know why it happens,
• 34:17
  old wives tail thing. You eat a big jumbo marshmallow, something straight
• 34:23
  up, straight up, something with the sugar. It coats your throat and
• 34:29
  you stop coffee, okay, And then you spend all night going then you
• 34:34
  got then you have drained, and then you got your I don't know.
• 34:36
  I mean maybe you spend all night looking for a campfire. I don't know
• 34:38
  what it is. View is not officially endorsed by the Three Guys podcast or
• 34:43
  this company, well maybe two of the three guys. I'm fully endorsing it.
• 34:46
  I'm going in for big jumble Martin. You're dispensing medical advice. Well,
• 34:51
  I will tell you this. Yeah, one of my mother's remedies for
• 34:55
  a cough and sore throat. You're cuting. Now. We're gonna get nine
• 34:59
  men million texts on this stuff. Comes a new party line. Go ahead.
• 35:05
  Maybe we could sell this on the eight hundred website. That was lemon
• 35:08
  juice and sugar. Sure got an acid in there with sweet. The marshmallows
• 35:14
  got sweet, same principle, the sweety song. Lord knows how many texts
• 35:17
  we're gonna get. I should not have done that, I shout hey,
• 35:22
  guy again, shouldn't have said it, should have left it alone. Bids
• 35:32
  back fly big, big giant marshmallow with a fifty two pound recy cup of
• 35:39
  guy to bring in him with a four left by the way, I dug
• 35:45
  into one of those big giant recea cups we got from our guy Tommy boy.
• 35:49
  Yeah, broke that out, Oh boy, pretty good. It was
• 35:52
  good. Add a spoonful of liquor, Yeah, spoonful of right your eye,
• 35:59
  there's right out. We get a lawsuit. I put this in my
• 36:01
  heart. I heard him saying on three Guys Before the Game and Ethelo Shane
• 36:07
  been the same sense got that marshmallow stuck in her throat? Had it called
• 36:10
  the ms? Three Guys Before the Game is brought to us by episode eight
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  hundred dot com. On our last episode, I brought up the possibility of
• 36:22
  a special Valentines popcorn after the unbelievable success that Mountaineer Munch which I created had,
• 36:30
  which I created before the Christmas season, sold that out on getting some
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  just it does just a liar. Wait a second, did I not say
• 36:40
  we should have a popcorn? And the people and that was it? That
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  was it stopped there? You said we should have a popcorn? And then
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  They might have had a little to do with it. The nicest thing about
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  the popcorn made by Mountain Popcorn is that it's the kernels are raised and grown
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  in West Virginia, right, And you're like that. I love that fact.
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  and here shift from here. Formally, I can give you this. Ladies
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  and gentlemen. We now have confirmation of a special Valentine's Day flavor. It
• 37:17
  will be a limited edition. We will share the recipe and the flavors on
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  the website next show and there will be a very specific window to order so
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  that you have it before Valentine's Day, and we will focus It'll be our
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  focus for this month. We'll just so it's happening. I'm I might throw
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  something I'd ask for Red. That's all I said, is like something red
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  real. The people that execute are actually executing Regil that was available where episode
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  eight available. Now, No, they're making it. We're going to give
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  you the flavor profile on their next episode Thursday. But but there is another
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  run of the Yeah, they make one. They're making one more run of
• 38:15
  Mountaineer Munch. I was at Kroger's checking out on Sunday and the guy over
• 38:20
  in the other aisle when we were checking out said, hey, I had
• 38:22
  the Mountaineer munch. It was excellent, So I told you it was good.
• 38:24
  I'm not I'm not bs hey real quick, speaking of episode eight hundred,
• 38:28
  if we had one person shout out in Cleveland, we had fifteen.
• 38:34
  There were efforting shirts all over that arena. So thank you every yeah,
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  thank you to everybody that that said hello, waved to us, showed us
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  their shirt. There were multiple efforting shirts there. There was a thanks for
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  having us too. Yeah, so thank you. One other thing now that
• 38:49
  we're out of the Christmas season. On episode eight Hunter dot com coming up
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  January of the eighth, Monday, we're going to open up our Winter Solstice
• 38:57
  shop. Is this for it? Do you know this? Yeah, there'll
• 39:00
  be some specialize us turn into a segment with a heavy anxiety. I don't
• 39:04
  know what he's going to do or say that. Then part of the winter,
• 39:08
  the Winter Solstice Eric, we'll have some products design specific gear. Yeah,
• 39:12
  well yeah stuff, Yeah, what do you mean? Just watch January
• 39:15
  eighth, in all seriousness, episode eight hundred dot com in all in all
• 39:22
  seriousness, you know this with his allbs A side, we are trying to
• 39:25
  help West Virginia businesses. We are helping West Virginia businesses. And there's a
• 39:29
  program called Ignite Do WV You familiar with it, Hopy, Yes, I'm
• 39:32
  sure you've had it in your public affairs show. Ignite dou WV. They
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  give out one hundred thousand dollars in awards for West Virginia based up startup incubators
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  and the due date for participating in this year's contest if you are in that
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  category is January the eighteenth. The details available at ignite WUV dot com.
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  That's ignite WV dot com and a Austin chill. That picture of those little
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  sparkys there, those are some dudes that one a chunk of money from ignite
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  WUV in the past. And here's who we have helped businesses in our state
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  over the last couple of years. Mountain Table right down in the Ronsfort in
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  Greenbero County, our Boy Rusty at Mountaineer Roasting, Mountaineer Popcorn Chestnut brew Works,
• 40:22
  and other participants at the Three Guys Food Court. So those folks are
• 40:30
  great, and we're involved with the School of Business and Economics at WVU and
• 40:37
  this coming year we're gonna get more involved and their students will help us.
• 40:39
  On our episode eight hundred website and social media. So keep this in mind.
• 40:46
  Small business in West Virginia accounts. Small business in West Virginia accounts for
• 40:52
  ninety eight percent of West Virginia's economy and fifty percent of its employees. That's
• 40:58
  fantastic and that's where that's what we're doing. We're doing all right? You
• 41:05
  ready for some healing, man, that's a lot of paper Texter. Hello.
• 41:12
  After Wednesday Nights of Victory in Charlotte, my mother and I we're continuing
• 41:16
  our holiday baking with a little homemade piscotti. We're trying out a new flavor
• 41:22
  recipe and I want to make some notes on the recipe card in pencil,
• 41:25
  you know, just in case the recipe doesn't come out. We need to
• 41:29
  make some changes. But all we could find in the basement kitchen. Tony
• 41:32
  is a fellow Italian American. Please elaborate on the basement kitchen was Pence.
• 41:37
  Well. My mom disappears in the unfinished storage side of the basement. A
• 41:42
  few seconds later, I hear a faint grinding noise. Yeah, that's right.
• 41:45
  I walk over and there she is sharpening an old number two pencil with
• 41:50
  a mounted to a shelf pristine condition, shaving's catcher installed, and all.
• 41:55
  It's a great day to be a mountaineer wherever you may o be happy New
• 41:59
  Year. Three eyes, Brian and Donna oh in weirdon perfect perfect, So
• 42:04
  thanks very much, sharpener. So he referenced the Italian Americans basement kitchen.
• 42:08
  It's a classic. Italians have kitchens in their basement. Oh really, Yeah,
• 42:14
  that's when they go down and they do the That's when they go down
• 42:15
  and do big work. Oh yeah, like that's when they bring the twenty
• 42:20
  quart sauce out. That's where they can stuff. That's where they get to
• 42:24
  work. We had a we had a kitchen. We had a kitchen downstairs
• 42:29
  in our basement. You. Oh yeah. My mom would go down there
• 42:31
  it was time for to do the tomatoes, do the red peppers, do
• 42:35
  everything. It's just like an everything's in Italians. You save your good kitchen
• 42:39
  for just upstairs and then you go down for your big work. Right.
• 42:43
  My mom's grandpa or my wife's grandparents. So really, oh sure, yeah,
• 42:46
  at the downstairs kitchen work work. It's not downstairs. You go down,
• 42:51
  you bring it up. Yeah. Yeah, you want to run around
• 42:52
  the heads with the little kids. They can stay upstairs, you go down,
• 42:54
  you work. Get an Apron Texter her year in review, best win,
• 43:02
  worst loss, expectations for next year, JP and Parkersburg. Well,
• 43:08
  worst loss, I'll take that one. Well yeah, Houston, Okay,
• 43:12
  there there you go. Best win. This could be in any sport.
• 43:17
  From twenty twenty three, I thought I was talking football. Okay, what
• 43:20
  do you think best win? Pitt was really good and important? Yeah,
• 43:30
  set the tone, set the tone. Yeah, TCU ended up being I
• 43:35
  mean TCU was big. I'll tell I'm gonna go. This is why it's
• 43:37
  PIT because Garrett went out after the sixth play. Yeah. True, I
• 43:43
  could have gone sideways. And I think the whole tenor of that season changes
• 43:47
  if you've started one in two. Yes, with losses to Penn State and
• 43:51
  PIT. So I'd probably put put Pitt as that. Yeah, I would
• 43:53
  best win. I would. I would agree. I really enjoyed that Bowl
• 43:58
  game. I just thought that it was fun. The way things came together
• 44:02
  for that, all the things we've talked about many many times. It's hard
• 44:06
  to not have Pit at number one, but I would put that Bowl game
• 44:08
  pretty close. A doctor Jeff from Charleston I submitted the picture of the blue
• 44:15
  and gold bridges. In response to Hoppy's comment that the picture may have been
• 44:17
  photoshop, I resemble that remark. The picture was taken in kanas City.
• 44:23
  Remember last episode, Hoppy, those beautiful golden blue bridges. Yeah, I
• 44:27
  just didn't. I means city. When you go down there for that legislative
• 44:30
  session, you might want to drive other to Kanos City. There they are.
• 44:34
  Okay, gold and blue. Do you think it's the right PMS color?
• 44:37
  Bread look pretty close, didn't it. What is the PMS of blue?
• 44:43
  I forget? It was two eighty something Texter he Hey, guys,
• 44:47
  listening to the podcast as usual on the way home from Christmas and New York
• 44:51
  celebrations. Went to the Bowl game. What a blast, especially as I
• 44:54
  enjoyed it with a suite full of Charlotte and Carolina fans. Been thinking about
• 44:59
  the home game version of thanks for having us, I suggest thanks for stopping
• 45:02
  by sarcastically, of course, Happy New Year. There's a picture Judy eaton
• 45:07
  Hoppy. You remember Judy eating the fantastic women's basketball players double. She's on
• 45:12
  the left, Ronnie Music, that's her husband. He's Morgantown. They have
• 45:15
  over to the right and obviously, I'm assuming daughter we had a good chat
• 45:20
  with them at one of the three guys tailgates. Oh yeah, they were,
• 45:22
  Yeah, they were there absolutely. Texter West Virginia football now four and
• 45:28
  zero. With my daughter in attendance, she's asking questions after the bowl game.
• 45:32
  I'm curious to get your takes on those questions. Rivals number one,
• 45:37
  it's clearly pitt. I would list Virginia Tech as two. Then she asked
• 45:42
  who's three. My immediate thoughts went Penn State, Miami, Oklahoma, but
• 45:46
  those tend to be lopsided, but wins for them aren't really a big deal.
• 45:51
  I then went to Marshall, but that feels like the same logic can
• 45:53
  be oppositely applied. The only team I can think of after that would be
• 45:58
  Syracuse due to the ninety two game, and Syracuse has been Schwartzwalder. But
• 46:01
  that doesn't really seem to feel right either, Baylor. Maybe if I were
• 46:05
  stretching it, I'm not sure if I have an answer. Who would your
• 46:07
  number three rival be? Right now? Boy? Right now? I mean
• 46:14
  Syracuse, but you don't play him, Maryland, You're only playing periodically.
• 46:16
  I mean, if if just overall, I would go Pitt, Virginia Tech,
• 46:21
  and Maryland. But you know, you know you only you don't see
• 46:23
  them though. Are you surprised that a clear Big Twelve rival hasn't emerged yet?
• 46:29
  You're you're pretty deep into this Big Twelve conference. It's a decade plus.
• 46:32
  But I don't feel like there's one definitive team there. Yeah. Now,
• 46:37
  maybe Cincinnati maybe starts to move into that territory. We've said that you've
• 46:40
  got to know a couple of things. You've got to have You got to
• 46:44
  have some good games, and you've got to have some incidents. Yes,
• 46:46
  that's exactly where we're lacking. We don't have haven't had a good fight with
• 46:51
  a with a screw job or a big controversy that you got screwed in,
• 46:55
  or you also don't. You also don't have another team that wants you to
• 47:00
  be the rival, Okay, because they already have rival, which means that
• 47:02
  Cincinnati is the most likely rival because they're interested in having you as a rival.
• 47:08
  Correct, Texter. Now I'm confused. Does Garrett Green look like the
• 47:14
  Mountaineers statue or does he look like Kevin Green? I heard your there is
• 47:21
  heard your reference to Wayne County reminds me that there are only two counties in
• 47:25
  West Virginia that start with the letter oh Ohia and out Wayne. I don't
• 47:32
  tell that means. Neil Brown mentioned how this has been a hard couple of
• 47:36
  years on his family. Can't be easy when seemingly half the state wants him
• 47:39
  gone. I just hope we don't Bobby bowed him, boud be bowed in
• 47:44
  him. Yeah, so, yeah, Garrett does have a little resemblance to
• 47:46
  former uh nfler. Yeah, wrestler Kevin. He did wrestle for that,
• 47:51
  but he was really good NFL player. Yes he was Texter. Three guys
• 47:55
  David from southern West Virginia. I hope you and the family had a good
• 47:58
  Christmas. I assume the dude was top tier. Listening to Neil Brown's press
• 48:01
  conference, he mentioned the pressure on his family for not winning enough for the
• 48:07
  rich Rod and Holgerson crowd. Just be aware when you call him a clown
• 48:09
  or worse, it eventually gets to his wife and kids. I like Brown,
• 48:14
  and he'll be a success if we let him. My own land and
• 48:16
  my house is on it. However, we see deer very often that the
• 48:20
  wife protects them. I may start wanting to preread these. I just wanted
• 48:27
  to show off our fans. I've seen many North Carolina fans saying our fans
• 48:30
  are insane in a good way. Hell of a trip down to Charlotte.
• 48:34
  Maybe next year it can be a trip to Dallas for the title game.
• 48:36
  Let's go mount and heres. Look at that healthy Formerly Joey and Princeton,
• 48:39
  now Joey and Athens. That's Charlotte. Good shut. Yeah, that was
• 48:43
  the day of the game. It's great Texter enjoying the weekend in Mercer County
• 48:49
  with family to ring in a new year after going to the Bowl game.
• 48:51
  Spot of these Snickers items at a truck stop, Brad, you interested?
• 48:54
  Those are big bars and Snickers, eggs eggs Snickers. Yeah, that would
• 49:00
  be interesting. I love Snickers too. Snickers are a milky way. You
• 49:04
  can one of the other Snickers from me. Snickers is way up my list,
• 49:07
  Number one. Snickers is way up my list. The Snickers gives you
• 49:09
  the peanut with a milky ways just no peanut. Now, I'll take a
• 49:12
  milky way down around the holiday season when we're getting down with the other stuff.
• 49:15
  Okay, but it looks like you want to Snickers. I wouldn't even
• 49:19
  debate that Snickers. Snickers is way up my list, got it never fell
• 49:22
  in love with three Musketeers a little too spongy. Tony wanted an interesting description
• 49:30
  there. That's actually a pretty good description it is. Is it going?
• 49:34
  Man? If you want? If I wanted that, I just eat a
• 49:35
  big marshmallow to stop coffee, I got Baby roofs underrated. They still make
• 49:39
  this mm hmm. I love baby underrated. Very good, very good.
• 49:44
  Tony wanted to respond to Kathy from Marlington's text about our meeting at the local
• 49:49
  in Charlotte. She and her friends were kind enough to give us the three
• 49:52
  guys their table in a crowded bar. As we were leaving. I commented
• 49:55
  on her efforting shirt and she saw my old school's three guys shirts. You
• 50:00
  said. She's been a listener from the very beginning and turned her husband onto
• 50:04
  the show. Kaiser people gave her the table when she arrived, and she
• 50:07
  passed it out to the next county over. I'm originally from Hampshire. Ran
• 50:10
  into four different groups of people from the bar that next day at the game.
• 50:15
  Great trip, Great Memories of a Great Mountaineer season. Signed Jr.
• 50:17
  From Cumberland, so it was like a geographic passing it on to county.
• 50:22
  Ever, very go awesome, good job Jay guy. Not sure you remember,
• 50:28
  but at the height of Fabio's popularity he took a bird to the face
• 50:30
  while riding a roller coaster. I believe it's set back his career a bit
• 50:36
  o. My never thought I'd be sucked into a Fabio conversation by a podcast
• 50:39
  about mountaineer sports. But here we are, Stephen from Eleanor Stephen. We
• 50:45
  did not think so either, forgot about that. It looks like a matter
• 50:47
  hurt. Yeah, it hurt. Bird running your face all bloody. I'm
• 50:52
  good to see it. I'll tell you what though. Fabio fine looking man,
• 50:58
  good looking man. Jeremy and Cooperstown. So quick story in full disclosure.
• 51:02
  I'm a Marshall grad. I grew up in Huntington with one of the
• 51:06
  guys in this picture, Adam. He went to West Virginia with a few
• 51:08
  of my close friends from the area, and when they all joined the same
• 51:12
  frat in Morgantown, I spent most of my fall weekends in college driving to
• 51:15
  WVU home games, hanging out with Adam, my other friends and their frat
• 51:21
  brothers. This picture is of me Adam and several of those guys. Crazy
• 51:24
  thing is I myself had not seen a few of them since the twenty two
• 51:30
  Bowl game played in Charlotte twenty one years ago, which, amazingly, at
• 51:32
  the age of forty two, was half of our lives ago. Got to
• 51:37
  love how West Virginia brings people together, and in this case all got paid
• 51:39
  off with a great day. Well done Neil Brown and crew. I always
• 51:44
  tell people I'm a Marshall grab and I'm also a West Virginian and what a
• 51:46
  great day it was to be a Mountaineer. Thanks guys, It's a great
• 51:50
  picture. Yeah, a bunch of guys there twenty one years had passed.
• 51:53
  Another reason why a local Ish Bowl game was really good. Absolutely right,
• 51:58
  person, different show. I listened to both. I agree with Brad Country
• 52:02
  Roads playing in the background of player interviews is great. I hope to buy
• 52:06
  you a kercheval at the food court next year, hoping for some basketball magic
• 52:09
  from Lear South coal Mine Cole loves the Mountaineers were doing the tail game.
• 52:16
  Why would you do that? Oh yeah, we're doing why'd you do that?
• 52:22
  In the second day of January. You've got to do it, and
• 52:23
  he's like a squirrel chasing the rabbit. Now he's going to talk about it.
• 52:27
  Oh yeah, it's happening. It's going to happen. It was a
• 52:31
  big hit. That was a big hit. I don't have to do anything,
• 52:34
  of course, but you were great. I mean, Dave, you
• 52:37
  were great. Although I will say not to pull a Tony, but I
• 52:38
  will. We should probably do the thing for multiple days leading into that pasty.
• 52:43
  That's going to be a big week. It is. Strap it on,
• 52:45
  that's going to be a big week. Yeah. Maybe we should be
• 52:49
  open every evening. It is going to be. It's the last week of
• 52:54
  August, right, Yeah, so yeah, Texter, this is Mississippi Gary.
• 53:01
  I just wanted you to know my West Virginia connection. I grew up
• 53:05
  in New Martinsville until the age of ten, across the street from Billy Stewart.
• 53:08
  Then I moved to Paydon City and graduated with Jeff Casteele's older brother.
• 53:12
  And I do Jeff well tell him? Zombie said, Hi, he can
• 53:15
  tell you stories. Loll I love my mountaineers. You guys give me hours
• 53:19
  of enjoyment. Thank you, Mississippi Geary. Don't forget that next time.
• 53:22
  You see kess to you. Hey, Cas was talking to Zombie. Hey
• 53:24
  Zombie said, Yo, greetings from Greenborough County. As the wife of an
• 53:31
  avid fan, I myself am efforting to reach P one status by never missing
• 53:35
  an episode. After shopping for the fam at episode eight hundred dot com,
• 53:38
  I even received my very own efforting T shirt as a Christmas gift. My
• 53:43
  husband had the pleasure of meeting you three and Dave at the event in Ronsovert,
• 53:47
  looking forward to the day when I can do the same. I feel
• 53:50
  the need, however, to address the obvious elephant in the room, the
• 53:55
  talk of ending your show with episode eight hundred. My husband assures me this
• 54:01
  is an arbitrary number, is merely three guys nonsense. However, it causes
• 54:07
  me great angst and anxiety. As the most popular sports podcast in the state,
• 54:10
  Please put my fears to rest and say it isn't so. Although also
• 54:16
  I thought I would toss out a possible name for the Valentine popcorn. What
• 54:21
  do you think of Cupid's crunch? That's actually breaking Pretty good, That's well
• 54:24
  done. Lastly, Brad, can you talk about the significance of the beaded
• 54:29
  bracelet that you always wear it suits you well, but then again, we
• 54:32
  all know you are definitely the coolest of the three. Thanks for you for
• 54:37
  providing great entertainment. Looking forward to attending my first three Guys food court in
• 54:40
  the fall and watching you well into the four digit episodes. Marcia, wife
• 54:45
  of Real Deal Neil the Fishing Guy. Oh yeah, I remember Neil fishing
• 54:50
  guy. Rozover terrific. Yeah, I had a wonderful time. No real
• 54:54
  story on the bracelet, just a Christmas gift from my wife and kids.
• 54:57
  And how long ago? And not this crist Smith though, uh no last
• 55:00
  Well, so you've been wearing it for a year. Episode eight hundred.
• 55:07
  So when we started talking about no episode eight hundred, we said that was
• 55:15
  an episode four hundred, and I said, well, I guarantee you one
• 55:17
  thing there ain't gonna be eight hundred. And that's how that started. And
• 55:22
  this is five what's seventeen? Five eighteen? Today? Clicks off pretty fast?
• 55:27
  Actually, yeah, but I don't see it happening. Okay, I
• 55:31
  don't see it's happening. That would be well, how long would it tick?
• 55:37
  Yeah, if you did one hundred, If you do one hundred a
• 55:39
  year, three more years, right, three more years? Yeah, if
• 55:46
  you did, if you did one hundred a year, if you did two
• 55:49
  a week, two four six eight, you're doing ninety six a year.
• 55:52
  See how quickly you did that. Yeah, I was gonna use a calculum.
• 55:57
  Well, you see, because there's two things here. I don't understand
• 56:00
  why people in elementary schools don't teach multiplication like they used to teach it when
• 56:05
  I was a kid. Like kids don't have to do with episode eight one
• 56:07
  hundred because you said I did that quick, Yeah, I did twelve and
• 56:09
  eight ninety six real quick. I don't need a calculator cause you know why,
• 56:13
  because I was taught how to do multiplication in my head. They don't
• 56:15
  teach that anymore. To get angry, I'm just saying, do you realize
• 56:19
  that all education says, Do you realize that they don't do that anymore?
• 56:22
  I don't know that people can't go well, I do know this. I
• 56:23
  can tell you that the test scores for math and science and English literature are
• 56:29
  poor. I can tell you that. Here's what I'm saying, Like I
• 56:31
  go to kids like, okay, do your nines nine eighteen, twenty seven,
• 56:35
  thirty six, forty five, fifty four to sixty three. They can't
• 56:37
  do that, twelve, twenty four, thirty six, forty they can't do
• 56:38
  it anymore. How the hell can you not do that? That's the one
• 56:42
  thing you learned from school that you still use. True, I use it
• 56:45
  all the time. Right, who's not teaching that we work on that?
• 56:47
  Do you do do that? Yeah? Your girls can go seven fourteen,
• 56:50
  twenty one, twenty eight, thirty five, forty two, forty nine.
• 56:52
  We're not as proficient yet, but we work on it. Yeah, and
• 56:54
  we work on But I asked teachers and they go, no, we don't
• 56:57
  do that anymore. We do it a different way. They probably like,
• 56:59
  what is it only one of the three of us that does math homework every
• 57:01
  night? I can assure you we are working on those pascation tables. So
• 57:05
  anyway, six may have got thirty six may have gotten a time go through
• 57:14
  one not from not so the the eight hundred thing. I mean, I
• 57:17
  got one of the three guys on this set right now, I was writing
• 57:20
  about retirement. Well I didn't. I mean, I don't know. I
• 57:23
  don't know how you can. I mean it's on the website today talking about
• 57:27
  his retirement again. Yes, well, hell we might not get to six
• 57:30
  hundred. That's like every year now he goes through a retirement. Oh I
• 57:34
  know. Well yeah, I mean I'm going to be sixty nine in February.
• 57:37
  When you when you are sixty nine, you will be thinking about that.
• 57:40
  Okay, before I get this sick, Wait till I get sixty not
• 57:45
  people wondering why you're still here? What the hell's he doing here? Sixty
• 57:51
  He's still here, He's still here? All well before that? Yeah,
• 57:54
  well, okay, I mean we're glad I haven't. But what was the
• 57:58
  general's at again, you have not retired yet. What was the general consensus
• 58:02
  on your text? After and during your show today, people were saying,
• 58:06
  I can't believe you're still here. No, did let me ask you this.
• 58:09
  Did the people that retired early say it was a good decision or a
• 58:14
  bad decision? Or did you get more people saying like, dude, don't
• 58:16
  do that, Because that's a really good question. And I not only did
• 58:21
  I talk to listeners about that, but I hear from I ask people who
• 58:24
  are about to retire or retired and see what they say, and it's,
• 58:28
  you know, it's the Bell curve. I mean, some people said,
• 58:30
  man, it's the best thing I ever did. I'm doing this, I'm
• 58:31
  doing this, I'm doing this able to say no, I feel I've lost
• 58:36
  value and meaning and I really miss that and I haven't found my stride yet.
• 58:40
  And others say, well, it's a mix because all I'm volunteering,
• 58:43
  so it's all over the place. Yeah, it's all over the place,
• 58:45
  and it just it just depends. And again not to go on the big
• 58:50
  tangent, which I am, but that I find it somewhat terrifying. Frankly.
• 58:55
  I mean to think that because I have this wonderful job and that I
• 59:00
  enjoy the vast majority of days and the vast majority of things that I do,
• 59:04
  that if if I didn't do it, then I would feel like I
• 59:07
  made a terrible mistake by leaving it. And the other thing is that I
• 59:13
  don't have this big social life. Okay, you guys are my friends,
• 59:19
  you know, and we hang out and we don't hang out otherwise. But
• 59:22
  at work, And what would I do, Brad, if if I didn't
• 59:25
  see you at work like I would like i'm retired, I'd call you,
• 59:29
  hey, Brad, what are you doing? He goes, what I was
• 59:31
  hoppy calling? I'm busy I've got things going on, so so I'll well,
• 59:38
  thank you. I appreciate that. So that Tony says you might copy
• 59:45
  might be getting sorry on another call instant. So that's that's a quandary that
• 59:52
  you think about that too, you know. So Hm, I don't want
• 59:57
  to talk about it. So again, no chance we get to have at
• 1:00:00
  eight hundred is basically what that says. I mean, just live for the
• 1:00:04
  moment. Let's just let's let's enjoy what we have now and live in the
• 1:00:07
  moment and try to keep it going as long as it makes sense. Thank
• 1:00:09
  you. There you go, rolling Stone still together. Yeah, unbelievable.
• 1:00:16
  It is. See how the cupid crunch cells. That might help see before
• 1:00:23
  the members of the band start in fighting, that will be Yeah. Anyway,
• 1:00:31
  thank you very much, Marsha. We do appreciate it. Three guys,
• 1:00:34
  I'm not quite ready to let go of the twenty three season. I
• 1:00:37
  think you should do a review of Brad's over Under numbers from episode four to
• 1:00:40
  seventy nine, titled over Under Part one and four eighty not titled over Under
• 1:00:46
  Part two. Given the unorganized randomness of this show, Tilted titled Saturday night
• 1:00:53
  Lights Tilted didn't they teach reading when you were growing up? Yeah, I
• 1:00:59
  was in the dumb club. There were three groups in first grade. We
• 1:01:01
  good readers, the average readers, and the batteries. I wasn't bad.
• 1:01:05
  We did one of those at the end of the regular season. If I'm
• 1:01:07
  not mistaken, we went through some of those. But I'll we have that
• 1:01:10
  is a good idea. We didn't do the second part of that. Well,
• 1:01:14
  he did it for us even better league standing at thirteen and a half,
• 1:01:19
  Tony, Hoppy and Brad all took better than that. Hit That one
• 1:01:22
  Garrett rushing tds at eight and a half. Everyone took the over. Thirteen
• 1:01:25
  was actually significant given the time he missed, but what really stood out was
• 1:01:30
  his improvement. Passing two hundred yards a game was not anyone's radar, and
• 1:01:34
  no one dreamed sixteen touchdowns with four picks, so true number three number of
• 1:01:39
  players rushing for a touchdown. Spread's number was four and a half. Tony
• 1:01:44
  and Hoppy went over. Tony said seven, Brad said seven was not happening.
• 1:01:49
  I don't think I said that, did I Why why would you attack
• 1:01:52
  the listener there? If you remember that was I think he listened to the
• 1:01:57
  tape. Okay, whatever, I don't think, go ahead, I mean
• 1:02:01
  tying. He went back and listened to him continue on Cole Taylor thirty one
• 1:02:06
  and a half catches. This was a double of tight end catches under Neil
• 1:02:09
  Brown. Brad and Tony went under Hoppy was a no show for episode four
• 1:02:14
  to eighty imagine that. And then Brad throughout the number of tds at two
• 1:02:17
  and a half, they both took the overthinking three with actually it turned out
• 1:02:22
  to be four. Team leader of interceptions will have two and a half.
• 1:02:25
  Brad and Tony went over believing the number would be three. Shout out to
• 1:02:30
  the consensus all American Beanie Bishop, who had four with an amazing twenty pass
• 1:02:36
  breakups. The biggest surprises to me were the emergence of the freshmen Jaheim White,
• 1:02:45
  Treylon Ray Hudson, Clement Preston Fox, and Rodney Gallagher on offense,
• 1:02:51
  Ben Cutter, Tray Lathan, Asani Redwood on defense. They weren't just nice
• 1:02:54
  but critical components. Number two Garrett's improvement as a passer. Completion percentage still
• 1:03:01
  low at fifty three, but the yards per game and ability to throw it
• 1:03:05
  deep as there. What is scary is he's got a ton of room to
• 1:03:07
  improve to get to a sixty percent completion by better accuracy on the short passes.
• 1:03:14
  Three. The drastic improvement in season of West Virginia's defense. Shout out
• 1:03:20
  to Jordan Leslie to the work they did in the portals. Saw the leadership
• 1:03:23
  in the back end Burke's Bishop Wilson, the development of the D line.
• 1:03:28
  I know it's long to be read, but I'd like to see an episode
• 1:03:30
  or your thoughts on spreads over under preseason's numbers. Number four the leadership of
• 1:03:37
  Neil Brown in the face of withering doubt and criticism. For those idiots amongst
• 1:03:43
  our fan base that think we've got the wrong guy, go learn something about
• 1:03:46
  football and leadership. Thanks for what you do. Signed by p One Doug
• 1:03:52
  Marquette, Texter. Hey, three guys, Another West Virginia connection story.
• 1:03:58
  I'm on the Big Island of Hawaii, walking on a trail to see some
• 1:04:03
  falls, about thirty miles from Helo. I turn a corner and this fellow
• 1:04:08
  is coming toward me, wearing flying West Virginia shorts and his shirt. Boom,
• 1:04:14
  there he is walking in uh walking there are Yeah, look, there
• 1:04:20
  he is pretty amazing. That's pretty good, Texter or in game text at
• 1:04:25
  the start of overtime, Tony, how about the three guys before the game
• 1:04:29
  jigsaw puzzle of the three of you on set? What is it? What?
• 1:04:33
  Saad again? Charlie wants a three guys jigsaw puzzle of the three of
• 1:04:38
  us sitting on this set. Charlie, No, no, thank you.
• 1:04:43
  I don't know what's wrong with that idea. Puzzles are so old people.
• 1:04:48
  I don't know about that. You put any together lately? Not lately?
• 1:04:54
  Thank you? Is he doing math problems two, four, six, eight,
• 1:04:57
  nine, ten to twelve? Okay, seems like Josh either feels the
• 1:05:00
  need to play zone defense, But how do you prevent wide open threes when
• 1:05:04
  the zone collapses in the pain and opponents kick it? Has the box and
• 1:05:09
  one become an ineffective alternative when playing D one caliber, Yeah, normally you
• 1:05:15
  can do a box and one, like in high school when they've got one
• 1:05:17
  dude and you just want to absolutely suffocate him because they don't have anywhere else
• 1:05:21
  to go, like for example, Ohio State they got four guys average and
• 1:05:25
  double figures. So yeah, you just can't do it. You don't see
• 1:05:30
  it what he's referring to there. Ohio State did hit a bunch open threes
• 1:05:33
  in a second half for a number that changed the game in their favor.
• 1:05:38
  I just thought that was credit to Ohio State for moving the ball better and
• 1:05:41
  finding the open guy. West Virginia was rotating around trying to shut those lanes
• 1:05:45
  and be aggressive, and Ohio State moved the ball well. A few years
• 1:05:48
  ago, Texter says, I'm in the Pittsburgh Airport getting into the TSA line.
• 1:05:51
  Coach Lou Holtz was heading toward the parking lots after the TSA. I
• 1:05:56
  was in the tram, headed to the gates, waiting for the doors to
• 1:05:59
  close, and here comes coach. Coach Holtz made it into the tram just
• 1:06:02
  as the doors were closed, and I said, hey, Coach, why
• 1:06:05
  aren't you just going to the parking lot. He said, I'd prefer to
• 1:06:08
  have a slow guy going in the right direction than a fast guy going in
• 1:06:11
  the wrong direction. Coach Holtz is right. WV Sports teams are going in
• 1:06:15
  the right direction, maybe slower than desired. Let's be patient as we go
• 1:06:19
  in the right direction with the right group of coaches side Myke Clyde in Fairmont
• 1:06:26
  Texter. Did you guys see this? Someone in the ACC has a beef
• 1:06:29
  with the University of West Virginia. Shocker. This is worse than everything being
• 1:06:33
  in Central Times they listed that score UWV thirty UNC. Yeah, those poor
• 1:06:40
  buddies they struggle with that. That's not the first time I've seen that Texter.
• 1:06:44
  Florida State is now officially the nineteen ninety three Mountaineers. They left out,
• 1:06:48
  but no argument after the Bowl blowout. Well, the difference is West
• 1:06:54
  Virginia went in the ninety three Sugar Bowl with its full roster and Florida State
• 1:06:58
  had a shell of who they were were down twenty nine scholarship players for that
• 1:07:01
  game. Reportedly, there you go. Yeah, that was the buckle Ben
• 1:07:06
  and Wilmington, North Carolina rights. Don't sleep on the butterfinger cup. Sneaky
• 1:07:12
  elite candy. A little hard to find, but I'm sure the fine purveyors
• 1:07:16
  at Gomar. Purveyors at Gomart have them in stock. Butterfinger cup that would
• 1:07:23
  taste really good. That would be good. By the way, the gentleman
• 1:07:29
  that sent us all those great gifts at the start of a recent showman,
• 1:07:33
  when it open up that case of root beer. Yeah, you pound all
• 1:07:38
  that root beer. That freaking root beer like some of those, that's like
• 1:07:42
  superb root beer. Really, it'd be like it'd be like if you're a
• 1:07:45
  wine person, it'd be the Camus of root beers. It's really good.
• 1:07:50
  Oh, by the way, Forrest and Heather, Forrest and Heather, Hey,
• 1:07:57
  Austin, show me the picture of the eggnog. Please, there it
• 1:08:00
  is. That's upstairs, Hoppy. We each have a mason jar court full
• 1:08:04
  of eggnog. Really from Forrest and Heather, a husband and wife brought us
• 1:08:09
  that gift. There they go, they sent that to us. Thank you.
• 1:08:12
  I've been on the road. I have not been here a whole lot.
• 1:08:14
  I got that email from Carry upstairs are one of our folks that works
• 1:08:17
  here, and she said, Forrest just dropped off three quarts of eggnog and
• 1:08:25
  Hoppy, I think that would be great for you. That would be yeah,
• 1:08:27
  thank you very sure. Absolutely. Another reason why Forest and Carry Heather,
• 1:08:31
  Forest and Heather, Yes, thank you. Another reason I I Hoppy
• 1:08:34
  that you shouldn't retire because people bring us good items. I bring those.
• 1:08:39
  I bring items home like once a week I bring something home and my wife
• 1:08:42
  says, where did you get that? I said, it's three guys listeners
• 1:08:46
  and she's like, well, how do you know? Do you trust it?
• 1:08:49
  How do you know somebody? I said, no, it's three guys
• 1:08:51
  people, it's all good talk line for forty years, never got anything.
• 1:08:56
  I think here's a difference. We beg for stuff. You never accept angry
• 1:09:00
  email. Visit. Three guys get stuff all the time. As for a
• 1:09:05
  pair of pants, give me a pair of dungarees. Chester from Chestnut Ridge.
• 1:09:18
  Hello, it's tough to watch the basketball team and wonder what could have
• 1:09:21
  been? Is it too late for the Mountaineers to make it to the NCAA
• 1:09:26
  Tournament? If we show up and have a stellar conference record, I'm afraid
• 1:09:30
  there's already too much damage. Even with a ten and eight conference record,
• 1:09:35
  which would get you in the tournament most years, would still yield us a
• 1:09:40
  fifteen and sixteen overall record. To me, anything better than ten and eight
• 1:09:43
  is a pipe dream. Is winning the Big twelve the only way? Now?
• 1:09:46
  Signed by Chester from Chestnut Ridge. Now, let's just see what happens.
• 1:09:51
  No, you're just starting conference play. See what happens? Yeah,
• 1:09:56
  Chester, I mean, I don't mean to be evasive, but to be
• 1:09:58
  quite honest with you, this is the most unusual season that I've ever seen
• 1:10:05
  at West Virginia, and so I just do, like Hopy, I'm just
• 1:10:09
  gonna do. I'm taking this thing day by day see where it goes.
• 1:10:14
  I like the kids. They play hard, so you can ask for it,
• 1:10:15
  so you might get We talk about sometimes, Tony, about whether or
• 1:10:19
  not you're happy or unhappy with the season with the team. Forget that for
• 1:10:25
  a second and just go to joy. Can you get some joy out of
• 1:10:30
  it? Out of individual performances? They're winning certain games, and then I
• 1:10:32
  think you're I think though, you'll be a lot more content as a fan,
• 1:10:36
  Brad, to be open to two moments of joy that I think this
• 1:10:42
  team's going to provide you. Yeah, And I thought the Ohiostick game,
• 1:10:45
  even though it ends in a loss, that was an entertaining, fun game.
• 1:10:47
  If you if you watch or listen to that, that that's what you
• 1:10:50
  do moving forward and listen, Tony, You're right, these guys play incredibly
• 1:10:55
  hard. I give this staff a ton of credit for taking what is a
• 1:10:59
  really difficult, nearly impossible situation and doing their very best every day with an
• 1:11:04
  unknown future for all those guys right, and they're still in their grinding trying
• 1:11:09
  to make this better each day. So I give the whole program a lot
• 1:11:11
  of credit. I think that's a good approach. You take this each game
• 1:11:14
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  first for spreads never seen before. Five gallon bucket of receas. My gosh,
• 1:12:12
  second, I haven't seen that either. Thanks for spending Tony, Thanks
• 1:12:15
  for spending time with Mike be and me at the Texas Tech food court as
• 1:12:18
  we discussed we were due against them. In a final note, my grand
• 1:12:24
  nephew Drew was the kid who smoked the Duke's Mayo mascot on the forty yard
• 1:12:29
  dash at the bowl game. Thanks for what you three guys do for Mountaineer
• 1:12:32
  Nation. Signed by BB and Hurricane, a P one listener. You wearing
• 1:12:36
  an efforting shirt in that picture. I think you were. You had a
• 1:12:39
  long team. I had a long sleeve one on there. Yeah, Hey,
• 1:12:42
  Tony, you skipped over that one or chose not to read that one
• 1:12:45
  text? And I did a little quick research. Hershey, did you about
• 1:12:49
  the lawsuit? What did I miss? Did I miss one? Hershey has
• 1:12:55
  been sued yes by a Florida woman who said it's holiday theme aimed Reese's peanut
• 1:13:00
  butter candies lacked the artistic details shown on the packaging that make them worth buying,
• 1:13:09
  in a proposed federal class action filed on Thursday and seeking at least five
• 1:13:13
  million dollars. Cynthia Kelly accused Hershey of deceiving reasonable consumers by falsely promising that
• 1:13:18
  his candies would contain explicit, carved out artistic designs. I think she's got
• 1:13:25
  a winner. Oh, let's they've messed with the peanut butter chocolate ratio.
• 1:13:29
  Move on. She said she would not have paid four dollars and forty nine
• 1:13:32
  cents for a bag of Reese's peanut butter pumpkins had she known the candies not
• 1:13:38
  only lacked the cute looking carved eyes and mouth shown on the packaging, but
• 1:13:42
  any carvings at all. Good things. She didn't come to my father's grocery
• 1:13:46
  store and make that complain after she bought them that one seven ago. Would
• 1:13:49
  settled well, because you're the one that opened one and said it was what'd
• 1:13:55
  you say? Maybe lawsuit stocking. We were deceived into thinking you with Santa's
• 1:14:05
  boots. A lot of controversy on Rece's on this show. I don't care
• 1:14:10
  about the markings that going straight in my mouth. I'm not looking at the
• 1:14:12
  markings. Reces did foul response and they said, quote, are you kidding
• 1:14:16
  me? Get that got out of here? Uh? Text or high three
• 1:14:20
  guys. Gail from Martinsburg, wishing you a happy New Year, offering two
• 1:14:24
  random observations. If a Valentine's or Easter event is being considered for episode eight
• 1:14:30
  hundred, may I suggest working with De Fleury's Fine Chocolates on Queen Street in
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  downtown Martinsburg. I'll bet their creative team could effort a sweet treat that equal
• 1:14:41
  the high caliber of the items already available on the site and in future catalogs
• 1:14:45
  for Hoppies. Follow up information on a candy conversation from a recent episode.
• 1:14:49
  A smoothie is the peanut butter kin to a mallow cup mallow. Both are
• 1:14:55
  made by Boyer Brothers. A smoothie has a butterscotch shell that covers peanut butter
• 1:15:00
  center. It's a sweet treat indeed, thoroughly enjoying listening to each episode.
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  You three are hilarious and always make me smile. Thank you, Gail.
• 1:15:09
  So now we got yeah, I know those guys, I mean you know,
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  yeah, we sold those. They wouldn't be in all the time,
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  Like they wouldn't come in all the time. But like every once in a
• 1:15:18
  while you get boy or Brothers smoothies. They weren't package back then you just
• 1:15:23
  buy them like LARESI cup a little Butterscot's there mixed in. I do that.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah, I think you were I think we have I think you were
• 1:15:30
  doing It was like seventy two hours ago. Can you just seventy two hours
• 1:15:34
  ago you said that. Now, what we're going to do is and the
• 1:15:36
  holidays were factored in there. Can you just not What we're going to do
• 1:15:40
  is this. We're going to get hauls and say, hey, halls,
• 1:15:42
  you have an opportunity, and so does the flurries find chocolates. Who can
• 1:15:46
  make the best three guys Valentine or some Easter item. Maybe maybe we'll go
• 1:15:50
  Easter and you guys compete against each other. We'll pick at them. We'll
• 1:15:55
  sell it. What competition, Hoppy, It's the only way our team can
• 1:15:59
  get back. Yeah, I mean you just let someone go out there,
• 1:16:00
  run around by themselves and think they're the starter all everybody can't win. Yeah,
• 1:16:04
  you get a little competition. No, hey, you might come off
• 1:16:06
  the Yeah, yeah, what we want to do? Who wants to play?
• 1:16:09
  M H Texter Steven Tennessee two thoughts on Zach Frasier Number one. If
• 1:16:15
  he was Alabama's center, they'd be in the championship game. Yeah, did
• 1:16:19
  you see that? Number two? The player for the University of Washington almost
• 1:16:24
  cost his team the game by going down with an injury, thereby stopping the
• 1:16:27
  clock and giving Texas the fallback. Fraser would have gotten off the field even
• 1:16:31
  with all the returning letterman next year, no way we replace our anchorman and
• 1:16:34
  win ten games. He's that much of a difference maker. Signed by Steve.
• 1:16:38
  See when the that center came off the field and the head ball coach
• 1:16:42
  had a discussion with him m Probably when they were on the phone this summer.
• 1:16:48
  They may have known something before everyone else. Did I need a center?
• 1:16:55
  What are you saying? Oh, I see what I screwed up?
• 1:16:58
  Remember back in that Hawaii Sure, I sent those two guys. I got
• 1:17:01
  the copy, got all screwed up. Anyway, this is a continuation of
• 1:17:04
  the two guys stage as well to reading something else. Yeah, he said
• 1:17:08
  he grew That's why it made no sense. He said he grew up in
• 1:17:10
  Wheeling. Imagine that on this show. He said he grew up in Wheeling
• 1:17:15
  but now lives in Texas. Never did get his name. I told him
• 1:17:17
  we split our time between Fairfield, Glade, Tennessee and Myrtle Beach. Okay,
• 1:17:21
  there we go. I had debated that my morning whether to wear my
• 1:17:27
  yellow West Virginia hat or my Alpha Phi Delta fraternity hat APD just reactivated on
• 1:17:33
  the DOUBLEV campus two years ago. Next time, I'll wear the other hat.
• 1:17:36
  There you go. But I got that Texter, My brother and I
• 1:17:43
  are just curious if anyone knows how many jars of Duke's Mayo you have to
• 1:17:46
  sell to be able to sponsor a bowl game. It seems like it would
• 1:17:50
  be more than you are able to sell to recoup the cost since it's not
• 1:17:54
  a large profit margin item. Condiment kings. Now here's the deal, dude,
• 1:18:00
  Duke's Mayo is the all time leader in the clubhouse of sponsorship of a
• 1:18:05
  bowl game. They killed it. People talk about Duke's Mayo all year long
• 1:18:12
  based on their entry into the sports market before they got in or is anyone
• 1:18:15
  talking about Duke's Mayo other than the small southern region. No, not at
• 1:18:18
  this level. Their top of mind awareness is astronomical as the result of their
• 1:18:25
  sponsorship. So they'll kill it in what it cost them to get into that
• 1:18:29
  bowl business. This business is about top of mind awareness. They just want
• 1:18:31
  you to think Duke's Mayo when you're walking down the aisle. Okay, he
• 1:18:35
  was saying, yeah, there's a Duke's Mayo. Hey, West Virginia won
• 1:18:39
  the Duke's mayor. Hey, I'm going to support Duke's Mayo in the Mountaineers
• 1:18:42
  Like it's not even close now. Conversely, there are a lot of bad
• 1:18:46
  sponsorships in bowl games. People put their names on Bowl games and they do
• 1:18:50
  not activate properly, and as a result, I do think a lot of
• 1:18:54
  them are peeing money down their leg. Dukes Mayo is like on the other
• 1:18:58
  side, as someone the spent many years in the advertising, sales and activation
• 1:19:02
  markets, Yes, Dukes is also a perfect here's another way to look at
• 1:19:08
  it. If something is sold in the grocery store, you have a chance
• 1:19:11
  to be really dynamic and activate in those settings. The technology and some of
• 1:19:16
  those things that you can't touch and feel. They can still get great branding
• 1:19:19
  out of that. There's still value in that, but the activation part generally
• 1:19:24
  comes from those products that you can touch and feel. That's the difference that
• 1:19:28
  sponsors always have to try and fight through when it comes to advertising. Dukes
• 1:19:31
  is in a great spot and then they actually execute it very well. And
• 1:19:34
  how do you in an advertising how do you cut through the clutter? How
• 1:19:39
  many times during the year do you talk about mayonnaise? Okay, but the
• 1:19:43
  Duke's Mayo dominated during Bowl season because of all that they did, and they
• 1:19:49
  you know, they embrace it, you know, and they embrace the peculiarity
• 1:19:54
  of you're probably not going to take Duke's mayo and put it on. All
• 1:19:58
  the things they do during the game to get you thinking about it, right,
• 1:20:00
  it gets you thinking about it, But then you need to do it
• 1:20:03
  for multiple years because what's the other part of advertising when it works? And
• 1:20:08
  repetition, So you keep saying it, You keep saying it, You keep
• 1:20:11
  saying it, and they've started down that path. Done nice shot with it,
• 1:20:14
  and the picture of the mayo dump. Oh yeah, forever will forever
• 1:20:17
  be in Mountaineer lore and forever other school so that stays that just it's yeah,
• 1:20:23
  anyway, yeah, great grade by Randy Hunt writes in my nephew Jonathan
• 1:20:28
  and Denver received his game day grind and says, tell Tony, we had
• 1:20:31
  the coffee this morning. It tastes like West Virginia. There you go.
• 1:20:36
  Jim the poet laureate with breaking legal news for Brad. Oh, here's the
• 1:20:41
  Hershey store here, so my ma sheets might have been missed up. Here's
• 1:20:43
  another one on the lady suing. I don't know my stuff got to turn
• 1:20:46
  around here anyway, Dear Brad and Tony, Sandy and I caught up with
• 1:20:50
  Mike Gansey at halftime of the highest stake game. There he is John S
• 1:20:55
  Marshall to the left. Now there's John S Michael Patrick Gansey in the middle
• 1:20:59
  and lovely wife Sandy. Now when she introduces herself, does she use her
• 1:21:03
  middle name to I don't know that, but John does. Yes. So
• 1:21:09
  John Hoppey insurance salesman up in the Northern Panda, unbelievable mountaineer supporter. They've
• 1:21:13
  raised thousands and thousands of dollars for the MAC through the years. But he
• 1:21:17
  always introduces himself. Hi, I'm John S Marshall. Like there's a ton
• 1:21:24
  of John Marshall's out there, right, John, Hey, John May You
• 1:21:26
  wouldn't remember John mart right, Just hey John. My Brad and I know
• 1:21:30
  him because he was John S Marshall ever since I've known it, ever since
• 1:21:33
  we John Hey, John S Marshall john s Marshall, so good branding.
• 1:21:40
  Yeah he's not. He's just not a John Marshall. He's John s Marshall.
• 1:21:44
  And when you need an insurance in the valley, you go to John
• 1:21:46
  s Marshall. It's a great stroke of genius on his part. Right,
• 1:21:51
  I'd be confused with the high school if you didn't say johnns Marshall, thank
• 1:21:55
  you. Correct, exactly, John s Marshall. We saw him too in
• 1:22:00
  Cleveland. Got to talk to Johnny stepped down great the best, John Rice
• 1:22:05
  plumbly correct, exactly right. I don't even remember his name, would otherwise
• 1:22:11
  not remember his name? That's right, I'll due respect you, stop you.
• 1:22:16
  I'll stopped by to say hello to us at the game on Saturday.
• 1:22:19
  And one of the all time greats Jim Hammerck Oh yeah, no, not
• 1:22:25
  that one. What now? Jim Hamrick, the former athletics director at Parkersburg,
• 1:22:30
  the former had football coach at Spencer High School, won a state champion,
• 1:22:34
  won a state championship there and uh a an avid sports line and three
• 1:22:40
  guys listener. He came all the way down and we were up there.
• 1:22:42
  He came all the way down those steps at pretty good angle just to say
• 1:22:45
  he's a steep angle. I'm not sure it was Maryland upper deck or Virginia
• 1:22:49
  Tech upper deck steep, but it was. It was pushing it. Yeah,
• 1:22:54
  oh really I did made sure I had that railing. That would have
• 1:22:59
  been a situation. Texter John from Oklahoma City Scopes, Spreads and part timer
• 1:23:06
  without doing a specific name. Are guys who are leaving the football team as
• 1:23:12
  starters or projected starters via the portal. Leaving exclusively for money. Exclusively would
• 1:23:20
  mean one. I wouldn't say one hundred percent, I'd say eighty plus percent
• 1:23:26
  leave because of the money. Some overestimate the market as well. Some make
• 1:23:32
  those moves and overestimate what the market is. There's been a story or two
• 1:23:35
  out there, some overestimation of what they think they're worth and then what eventually
• 1:23:40
  they get are two extremely different numbers, which I think in the long run
• 1:23:46
  and a couple in years to come, it will shorten some of these leashes
• 1:23:50
  for guys that think, oh, yeah, I'm gonna leave for X.
• 1:23:54
  Well you got either what there was an announcements we record this on Tuesday.
• 1:23:58
  Tomola duraje AA has entered the portal, which that bums me out. I
• 1:24:00
  was hoping he would be back. He was the guy who've talked a bunch
• 1:24:03
  about him, Hoppy that didn't play a ton of snaps this year, but
• 1:24:06
  in his snaps was very valuable, did a nice job, including in the
• 1:24:10
  bowl game. You were hoping to be able to bring him back for another
• 1:24:13
  year, but not to be the case. And that is the result.
• 1:24:16
  Oh yeah, listen to this, Hoby. Okay, So that's the result
• 1:24:19
  of the ray Kwan battle situation. Yes, right, because because the court
• 1:24:26
  ruled that second or the NCAA came back and said, okay, second time
• 1:24:30
  transfers, you do not have to have a waiver. So that puts everyone
• 1:24:34
  who's already transferred once open to the possibility that they could jump and become a
• 1:24:41
  transfer without having to file a waiver. So where before you probably had some
• 1:24:45
  hesitation because you saw what was happening to the basketball guys. So that was
• 1:24:47
  a again giveth and taketh away. I mean, that's what happens with These
• 1:24:50
  rule changes certainly benefited you significantly on the basketball side, but that maybe one
• 1:24:56
  that that you would have held on to. Otherwise, I just got to
• 1:24:58
  go get somebody who's transferring second time. They're already on that. It's not
• 1:25:00
  like they weren't already backfilling along that defensive line. So they'll have some people
• 1:25:05
  that'll come in for that. But I would have liked him to stay.
• 1:25:08
  That's one of those would you rather have him or not? Would have rather
• 1:25:10
  had him as part of the roster next year, Texter. I love the
• 1:25:14
  story of James and the Bourbon barrel. Misapp that brought two old friends back
• 1:25:17
  together from your last show truly warms the heart. You gentlemen, have a
• 1:25:23
  lot on your plate with the podcast, the website, and the beer.
• 1:25:26
  Do you have room for television production? I see a Hallmark movie in the
• 1:25:30
  works with the story question who would play each of you? I'm thinking Vince
• 1:25:35
  Vaughan for Tony keep up the good work. I don't know Vince Vaughan would
• 1:25:41
  work for you. Saggot's dead, and people used to compare me to Bob
• 1:25:47
  Saggot or Jeff Goldblum. You know a couple of people have told me I
• 1:25:54
  look like Jeff Goldblum. I don't get that, but that's hm interesting to
• 1:25:57
  me. Yeah, looking for me, Harvey Kaitel, Yeah, how about
• 1:26:04
  Christopher Walking? That's my be clo might be close it kids, Scooch closer
• 1:26:13
  Texter Happy twenty twenty four. Fellas, it's been a while since I checked
• 1:26:16
  in. I attended the Bowl game and I had the best time of my
• 1:26:19
  life watching the World champion Mountaineers till the Bank of America Stadium. PA.
• 1:26:25
  Thanks for having us. Sorry I couldn't make it to the radio show Get
• 1:26:29
  Together. The traffic was horrible getting to Charlotte. One last thing, can
• 1:26:32
  we please have more spreads on the radio with scopes. I enjoyed the basketball
• 1:26:38
  broadcast p one Jennings and Dunbar. Thank you Jenmes, Thank you James.
• 1:26:42
  Something happened to my scripts because there's also Hey, Austin put that picture up
• 1:26:45
  of the first down marker in the chain. Someone says, I saw this.
• 1:26:50
  I was watching when this happened. Look, Hoppy, what the knob?
• 1:26:56
  The plastic knob fell off. So the chain link fence was coming undone
• 1:27:00
  stoppage and play. We couldn't get an exact measurement because the new fangled technology
• 1:27:05
  was not working properly. I give credit to the official that got it back
• 1:27:11
  on because he did a nice job getting it done quickly. Wow, look
• 1:27:13
  at that looks the technology that is pretty good on the uh. There were
• 1:27:17
  also some reviews in some games that we were doing there was no camera down
• 1:27:21
  the endline. Again exactly just pretty good officiating by the Big twelve crew.
• 1:27:27
  In the Alabama game, No one's talking about it. I think it was
• 1:27:30
  pretty you know, you know why because they were present, but they did
• 1:27:35
  not inject themselves. I mean I think to a large unlike some Bowl games.
• 1:27:40
  Oh my gosh, I think to a large degree, Tony, they
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  let him play. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. In fact,
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  it was one non call and probably should have which one one hit hit somebody
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  out of bounds and the alb Yeah, that should have been a personal file.
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  We should call him that. Yeah, should have been a personal file,
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  no question about that. All right, Well, there you go.
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  We got a quick turnaround. I mean, we just might sleep in the
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  studio because we're back on Thursday at a Houston preview. It's gonna come quickly,
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  Okay, I gotta get to work anything else for the good of the
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  order. I think we covered a lot so Thursday, as I said,
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  Three guys before the game. This has been episode number five hundred and
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  seventeen. It's our happy New Year episode. Thanks for being with us,
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  more frivolity, jocularity and more so. When you on this legislative session,
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  two days in a row, Monday Tuesday. You ask what I could do.
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