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Is sports betting HURTING the integrity of sports? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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The bets are going to give him a significant They're going to
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have a ton of money to spend. Why not put it in one of the top
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three offensive players in the league?
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We're going to be looking at Aaron Judge and saying that he
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can't win the big game, Michael Jordan said.
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I played eighteen games. You don't see the one doing.
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That a game where? You got to.
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Go. I told you, giant feet, Saquon
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Barkley at this Let's do it.
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com. It is raining here in New York.
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There has been storms being repeated over and over and over
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again over the day that they're going to hit New York and it's
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going to hit it dead on. Well, it's right now a rain
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delay for the Mets, I'm pretty sure, and the Yankees.
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I don't even know if there's going to be a game.
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It's been crazy. And I, I don't understand the
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weather. We talk about this all the time
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on this show and I don't get the weather.
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I really don't. And obviously living here in
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here in New York, you're wondering when the winter is
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going to come, when the fall is going to come, when the leaves
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going to fall. And usually when you see the
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acorns hit the ground, it means fall is right around the corner.
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I saw acorns about a week ago. I haven't seen or acorns since.
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So I, I'm probably thinking that summer won't be over for at
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least another two to three weeks, which means another heat
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wave is on the move right after the snowstorm.
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We're supposed to be hitting 90 over the weekend.
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So I am not happy about it. I can't stand the weather and I
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want to run. I do not want to go to Florida.
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I do not want to go to San Diego.
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I don't care if it's Texas. It's dry.
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I hate the heat. I hate, I hate, I, I hate the
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summer. So yes, falls around the corner.
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Winter's around the corner. Football's around the corner.
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Hockey and basketball is around the corner.
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For all you New Yorkers, Jabba, what's up?
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Nada, it's it's warm here too it felt like 100 and I think 103
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today so it's going to be even hotter to tomorrow and Friday.
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I think just the temperature alone supposed to be like 96.
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So yeah, we're, we're on board with you guys.
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It's it's hot and humid and sticky and then, you know, you
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just never know. It's supposed to be warm
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throughout the throughout the thing.
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I mean, it's a seems like a common denominator between here
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here in New York that you never know what the weather's going to
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be if it's, you don't know to pull out your sweatshirts or
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whatever, keep your shorts on. I mean, it's a, it's a cluster
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around here. But you know what, It's not too
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bad. We got a bunch of rain to last.
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So everything's kind of green and up.
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So it's, I love the fall. I love the changing of colors
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and, and all that stuff. And everything is pretty green
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right now, so we woke up today. So everything else is a bonus,
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right? Corn is ripping over there in
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Nebraska for all you women out there, if you know what I mean.
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Their men are searching through the corn fields looking for
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those. Corns done now it's corns done
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if it. I was trying to be funny there,
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but it went over. The cornfields are open and the
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women and the men are looking and lurking.
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You didn't get it. That's fine.
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Know nothing about corn. Well, you're right.
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I like corn. I like eating it.
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I like butter in my corn speed it don't like.
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Butter. Do you like corn on the cob or
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do you like? Corn on the cob.
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I don't like corn in a can. I'm not a big fan of that.
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You like cream corn? I like cream corn.
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Yeah, I do too. I like corn, anything with corn,
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but the problem with it is there's a lot of sugar in it.
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So yeah. And right now I had a, you know,
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obviously anybody that listens to the show, my A1C is up, so I
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have to stay away from. Those you said it was down the
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last time you checked it. I haven't.
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I haven't checked it yet. I gotta wait three months, three
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months, September, mid-september is when I'll get my A1C checked
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again, hoping that it falls from 5.8 to 5 point O If it's at that
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level, I'm in good shape. But I've always worried about
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this with my sugar levels and I and I was speaking to my
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girlfriend's father before the show and I was telling him about
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my sugar levels and he told me the last time I was in Florida,
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I would buy all these different candies and I was in Walmart, I
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would buy all these different cakes.
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I bring it back to the house and I always leave it at his house
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and now he is he's type 2 diabetic, so he would watch me
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eating. He says it's going to catch up
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on you. It's going to catch up.
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I was like never going to catch up on me.
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I go on my trip and I come back and then I get my blood taken
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and my my A1C is at 5.8. So I'm a pre diabetic person
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ladies and gentlemen and hopefully with all the different
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dieting that I have done over the last couple of weeks, 10
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weeks now without a sugar drink. I was over there at the Bronx
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Zoo yesterday enjoying myself with my mother and my girl.
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I love the Bronx. Zoo, did you ever experience
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like any withdrawal like from like?
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Everybody has me that. Everybody has been asking me
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that maybe for 24 to 48 hours. I got a couple of headaches, but
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not as bad as everybody thought it would be.
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Because over the years, you know, you have withdrawals on
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things that you try. I don't know if you do it when
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you're smoking, but when you drink, if you're a big drinker
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and you decide to part ways with drinking beer or liquor, you're
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going to withdraw. If you're a pill popper, you're
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going to probably withdraw. If you, you're, you're doing it
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for a significant amount of time.
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I have never been an addictive person.
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So over the years I'm all I've been doing is drinking sugary
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drinks. So I've never drank water
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consistently like I have had over the last couple of weeks,
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really almost three months. So it's incredible that I've
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stuck to the plan. And my plan was stick to water
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and stay away from every single sugar drink.
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No Pepsi, no Coke, none of those things, no lemonade, nothing.
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And I'm a Slurpee drinker, so you know how hard that is to go
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to 711 and look at the Slurpee. Yeah, slurpy little slushies.
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Oh man, I'm a slushy person. I love ices too.
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I have a ton of them right now in my freeze and I look at them
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every single night and. My like the like the sparkling
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ices are like which ones? I like the ones, the old type
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ones. You know the what do they call
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them? Speedy?
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What are those old ices that I eat all the time?
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What are they called? Ices.
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I guess they're ICS speed. I don't even know why I asked
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Speedy because his head so far up his ass.
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I can never ask this guy anything.
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He sits there, he knows what I'm talking about, but he just sits
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there and he doesn't even know what.
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He doesn't even know how to answer the question.
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I would say it's ICS. I like all different colors.
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I like the blue and I like the Gray.
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That's my favorite. So what I do is I buy like 3
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packets of it and the packages of it and it's usually got fifty
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of them. And I take all the blue and
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grape and I put it on the side and then I keep the my second
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favorite ones are orange and red and I put that on the side.
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And what I do for Speedy as I give him the apple, the green,
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the ones I don't like, he eats those.
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So. You give me the fruit punch
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ones, I like those. Sometimes.
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Sometimes if I want to be nice, but I don't like to share any of
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my Ices. But like I said, my brother also
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is a big ISIS person. He likes the the ones in the
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cup, you know, the Italian ices. He likes to flip it and eat it,
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eat the bottom 1st and go right to the top because it's got all
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the juice on the bottom. So I watch.
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Him. What's the ones that like you
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can like push up from the bottom?
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What's the ones? That's the ones I think he's
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referring to, those long ones with the plastic.
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That's what Yeah, the long and it's like skinny and then gets
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bigger there's. All different names for him, but
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that's what he's referring to like.
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He'll have, I think, different parts call him different things,
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I think. Yeah, well, Speedy knows all
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about pulling things, but nevertheless, I do.
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Those are the ices I like to eat.
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I don't really like the cup ones.
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I, I'm more of the, the stick 1. So I, I, it's a shame because
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every time I look in my freezer, I want to eat them.
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I want it. And then I I have my friends
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telling me you can have one, you can have two, you just can't
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have 10 of them. Oh, the the pop ices, that's
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one, yeah. That's the ones I want, yeah.
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The ones on the last last one on the right, those are the ones I
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like right there. Yeah.
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Those are the ones, Yep. Yeah people call them like
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flavor ice or freezes or pop ices.
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Those it good you can get like 1000 of them for like 6 bucks.
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Yeah, that's sort of saying I get like 50 of them for like $5
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and I stack them up. I stack the grapes in the Blues
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up and then the oranges in the red, and then I share the rest
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to everybody else. But I have them stacked up and I
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can't eat them. Could you imagine going in the
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freezer every single day and you're looking for something to
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eat and all you see is sugar and you can't have it?
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I will, I will agree with with poops bomb pops are like, OK, so
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now we're on this topic real quick before we get into it.
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The ice cream man, what was your go to on the ice cream truck?
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I like vanilla and chocolate with strawberry topping with
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colored sprinkles. I've always the cookie sandwich
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every time. Oh, the chocolate chip cookie
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sandwich. I was always the I was always
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the stupid kid that would get the, the like the Bugs Bunny
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face and the eyes looked like he was a crackhead.
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One would be like up and down. Yeah.
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The cookie sandwiches. Yeah, it's yeah.
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Well, I mean, it's it's sad. It saddens me because I always
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enjoy those ices and and the ice cream.
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Yeah, thank you, fish, but never exciting when you get a chance
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to see the opportunity. And I, I have been eating ice
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cream, but I eat it. I eat it in like, you know,
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every three or four days I split it up.
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I can't eat it all the time because it's so high in sugar.
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So I'm trying to stick to the pattern I have set up over the
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last 10 weeks. Michael Porter Junior is out and
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about as the NBA season is right around the corner.
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Says sports betting has hurt sports.
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Michael Porter Junior says sports betting is hurting sports
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and it is only going to get worse as time moves forward.
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On the One Night with Steinie podcast, the recently traded
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forward said that betting has damaged the integrity of
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enjoyment of the game. Porter went further, saying that
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he understood how athletes that grew up poor cannot resist the
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temptation of sports betting and that it's hard for players to
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resist helping their homies, helping them get a bag by
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multiply, I'm sorry, manipulating prop bets like his
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brother Jante did, leading to a lifetime suspension from the
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NBA. Porter also commented on how
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gamblers attack players and send them death threats and that the
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focus from fans is no longer on the actual game.
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Porter believes that sports betting should be restricted to
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in person bets and only in Vegas.
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The whole sports gambling entity, it's bad and it's only
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going to get worse. Porter, who was traded in the
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offseason to the Nets from Denver, was a key member of the
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2023 NBA champion. Nuggets average 18 points and
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seven rebounds a game, shooting 50% from the field and 39.5%
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from 3. Michael Porter coming out is
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pretty much protecting his brother.
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That's what I would think on this story and, and going on the
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Steinie podcast, by the way, me and Fish were talking about this
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Offset and, and, and talking about podcast names.
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That is one of the worst podcast names I have ever heard in my
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entire life. And I, I like him.
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I like what he's doing. I love what he does with the
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NBA, but the fact that Mister Steinie, Mark Steinie is coming
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up with a name one night with Steinie it it's just a horrible,
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horrible podcast name. So we will definitely have to
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read, reach out to Mr. Steinie and try to fix that up.
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Maybe it will, we'll re reactivate some sports names for
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him and names that have not been used over the last couple of
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years and activate it back for him because he is absolutely out
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of his mind using. I understand he's using his own
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name to promote his podcast, but just one night with Steinie.
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I mean, how about all nights with Steinie Or hit the gutter
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with Steinie or I'm going to take a dump with Steinie.
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I like that. That's a pretty good name.
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Anyways, the interesting story here is, is Porter coming out
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about gambling and that a lot of these young guys that have no
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money or from poor families or come from poor parts of the
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world in the country are trying to make extra money.
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Obviously, when they come to the NBA as rookies, they're still
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making a significant amount of money.
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NBA players as rookies make a good a pile of money.
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If they're in the NBA and they're a part of the top 12,
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top 13 roster, they're making over $1,000,000.
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But guys like John Tay, as we all know the story when he was
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playing for Toronto was prop betting for himself and putting
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his team in situations to lose. And and that's why the NB as
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John Tay downed on him when when it came to suspending him for
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life. Now, I do also believe sports
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betting's been around for a very, very long time with the
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NBA, the NHL, the NFLMLB. It's been going on for a long,
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long time. Ask Pete Rose.
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He has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame for really his
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whole life. Now he's gone and he'll probably
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inducted in the next two or three years.
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I think obviously the way Porter is bringing this story out is
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that he believes there should be gambling.
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Gambling in sports should be allowed.
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It's just it's got to be configured better.
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And the problem right now is that there is no configuration
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on it comes to when it comes to sports betting.
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If you're going to bet on your own sport, you're going to get
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in trouble. If you're playing professional
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sports and you're betting on another sport, you're going to
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get in trouble. The only way you can bet on
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sports is if you retire or you're no longer working for
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that organization. That's when the NBA, the NHL,
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the MLB and the NFL would be OK with you betting on sports.
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And I think I obviously Michael Porter makes a lot of valuable
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points on obviously bringing out and and manipulating different
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prop betting when it comes to sports.
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Now, if you're a professional football player and you're a
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quarterback and you're betting on sports, you're you're going
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to bet that you're, if you're throwing 20 passes in a game and
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you're throwing most of them over 50%, you're probably going
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to win that prop bet because 90% of the starters in the, in the
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NFL throw 50% of their passes, make 50% of their passes.
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So that's an easy prop bet. But again, when you watch
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different sports and you're trying to configure
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understanding how this betting is starting to progress when it
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comes to all these different countries and states that are
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allowing it now, again, it's become manipulative because now
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you're not just betting on a game, you're not betting on the
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over unders. You're betting on players.
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You're betting on what they're going to score, how many
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assists, how many rebounds they're going to have in a game
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or in football, how many touchdowns they're going to have
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or how many yards they're going to have or how many catches to
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yards they're going to have. It's different now sports and
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other things Now food has become a sport.
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Everything's become a sport. We I've watched on ESPN climbing
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hills are sports now. There's so many different sports
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now they they consider sports video games is a sport now,
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which is going to be an. Olympic, they got ESPN, the Ocho
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for all those crazy sports. I know it's just everything's a
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sport now. Everything's considered a sport
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if you're moving. And now chess, which we've known
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over the years, they've considered chess as a sport.
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Cards. Playing poker is a sport and and
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evaluating and understanding how people are using prop bets in
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sports has really changed the game.
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Is it for the better or for the worse.
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Now a lot of these athletes as we all know Jonte, as we all
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know Otani because we know and we're going to get into the
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whole Otani story because Otani again is a part of a scandal.
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Not surprised, ladies and gentlemen.
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The fact is when you look at sports and you're trying to
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figure out betting and understanding the the why these
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players are getting in trouble and, and other sports and
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obviously the NBA, the NBA and obviously Adam Silver figuring
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out what the LGA is, is doing right now when it comes to
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sports betting. And, and again, if it was LeBron
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James or if it was Giannis or Joel Embiid or any of the big
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stars doing it, I think it would be brushed under the rug.
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But you see, Michael Porter is going to go on a, a sports show
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and with Mark Stein and he's going to speak up on, on what's
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going on when it comes to sports betting and understand
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understanding why sports betting has become such a, such an
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illegal thing when it comes to sports.
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And, and we're trying to figure out how it's going to be more
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understanding when it comes to legality and understanding how
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they can make it legal in the future.
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I, I do believe that sports betting is going to become more
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legal as we move forward because it cannot not be you.
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You talk about Floyd Mayweather. I've talked about this many,
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many times. When he fought guys over the
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years, he propped bet he had other people propped, bet him on
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those fights. When is he going to knock him
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out? When is the rounds going to go?
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10 or 11 rounds, 12 rounds? He has done this many, many
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years. It's made millions and millions
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of dollars off of it. He's come out and said that on
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podcast for years. He's been doing it.
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Now, I don't know if Manny Pacquiao was doing it or even
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Canelo Alvarez. They don't have to.
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They're making millions and millions of dollars like Floyd.
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But when you become greedy. And a lot of these young players
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become that they're finding or trying to figure out ways where
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they can figure, configure ways they can bring in more value in
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their game, more value to their money.
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If you're making 1.5 million and you're using 500,000 of that
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money into prop betting in sports and doubling that, you're
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doubling your money every single season.
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And that's what Jonte was doing and that's what a lot of these
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guys are looking at it. Now you have these NFL football
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players, these future NFL football players.
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How about these college kids now with the NIL deals, they're
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making money, but are they making enough?
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If they look at prop betting, you know, college sports,
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college sports is one of the biggest in all of sports and
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different games and and many different possibilities.
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The Mafia has been doing it forever, forever.
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The Mafia has been prop betting forever in sports.
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This isn't this isn't new. And that's how if anybody's seen
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Goodfellas, why those guys really were were convicted of
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all the stuff they were convicted for.
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It was not stealing or killing or robbing people or even drugs.
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It was it was really betting on sports is what throw those got
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those guys thrown into jail. And again, it's becoming more
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legalized around the world. What was it 10 years ago was
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legalized in what, 1-2 states? Three states?
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Now it's legalized in how many states?
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3040 states. Eventually it's going to be in
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all the states. So how are you going to keep
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these players from betting on sports?
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And that's what Michael Porter is coming out and pretty much
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saying in his briefing on this podcast is there's no way of
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stopping these guys for betting on sports.
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There is no way. Now obviously you can configure
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ways that it'll make sense where these guys will be less in
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trouble or not be caused, won't be caused a ruckus all over the
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news. But again, Ohtani over over the
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last couple of years has been getting away with it.
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And again, the FBI was paid off by the MLB.
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Now I don't know that for sure. And that's my accusations and
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that's what I think. But again, you can't keep these
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players from not finding ways to make money playing professional
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sports or betting on professional sports or college
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sports or any sport. Now, the eating contest that
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happened recently, the hot dog contest, how many people had
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prop bets on that? I mean, we said it on our show
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that we thought, what's his name again?
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Joey Chestnut. Joey Chestnut was going to have,
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I think job at 62. I had 6664.
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Whatever, whatever, whatever their numbers were.
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We proppetted how many hot dogs the guy was going to eat.
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OK. Do you think we're the only ones
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that were doing that? Everybody was doing it because
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it's now eating is a sport. Eating beans is a sport.
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Taking a dump will probably be a sport eventually.
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How many dumps you have every single day?
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It's it's everybody is betting on things now.
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You can't keep these guys or girls or anybody, kids that are
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over 18 from betting on anything and now.
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My my son just told me he bets and.
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Everybody does. Everybody does, yeah.
23:27
Amongst each other, yeah. But then like, now how?
23:31
I guess just the way it's been capitalized, like it's in every
23:35
corner where you can bet. I mean, it's just not, you know,
23:38
bookies anymore. It's, you know, where it's
23:40
legal. Nebraska will probably be the
23:42
one of the last places that we actually, you know, it becomes
23:45
legal for sports betting. I mean, you can literally go 50
23:49
minutes in Iowa and it's technically legal.
23:51
But yeah, I mean, it's like you said, if you're over 18, there's
23:54
there's every which way from Sunday that you can freaking bet
23:58
on anything, Jabba. Now it's like you can bet in gas
24:02
stations. These kids are born from
24:05
nothing. They come from families with
24:06
nothing. All of a sudden they go play
24:08
Division One basketball, Division One football, Division
24:11
One hockey or baseball and they're getting NIL deals.
24:15
They're making six or 10s of thousands of dollars.
24:17
I said 6000, but 10s of thousands of dollars.
24:20
Some of them are making millions of dollars and they're, they're
24:24
not all about buying Corvettes because all they got to do is
24:27
make one prop bet in a game. And they could, they could bet
24:31
$500,000 on that prop bet and double their money and they'll,
24:34
oh, there's, there's my Corvette or there's my Lamborghini or
24:38
there's my Hummer, you know, you know, souped up or whatever the
24:41
hell you want. I mean, this is the way it's
24:44
going to go for now and forever. These kids are going to make
24:48
more and more money. Do you think a lot of them too,
24:51
like the way they're they're getting away with it too is if
24:54
they're smart, is having somebody else do it like not
24:57
share an account like we've seen with with different guys where
25:01
they actually it's like, hey, you know what, take this bed.
25:04
It's not like he creates the account and maybe, you know,
25:07
he's getting some nil money or what have you.
25:10
But where he's like, OK, I'll give you 1000 bucks, bet on this
25:14
to where it doesn't come back to him legally.
25:17
His buddy could try and rat him out, but if he's giving him
25:19
cash, there's no way for him to like, well, you dimed me out,
25:23
but I was giving you cash. How are you ever going to know?
25:26
And I, I agree there were opportunities for me in college
25:30
where it's like, Hey, can you give up three runs?
25:32
I was like, obviously I didn't do it, but it's like, what do I
25:36
throw the ball down the middle? He still could miss it.
25:38
And then you get in a bad spot with some people.
25:41
And we've, we've seen that happen too.
25:42
So I, it's, it's not going to stop.
25:45
It's only, you know, it's like the tip of the iceberg, right?
25:48
You only see so much of it and so it'll it'll be interesting to
25:51
see if it comes out in certain waves of either legal or
25:57
illegal, like you got a book your offshore or whatever.
26:01
Remember when I was in college, so 20 years ago, it was like big
26:05
with Texas holdem, you know, get in the room and you'd play and
26:08
it'd be like, Hey, you can make 650 bucks and it goes into your
26:11
account and you're like, holy cow, like I'm gambling online
26:14
like this is the coolest thing ever.
26:15
Now it's like, oh, you can bet on anything.
26:18
What color is the Gatorade? When they win, are they going to
26:20
show, you know, Taylor Swift or whoever, how many times?
26:24
I mean, you literally can bet on everything if you go through.
26:27
And I'm surprised our guest Ariel the prop queen, hasn't
26:31
made, like, some crazy sheets of like, ridiculous.
26:35
Craziest thing she's ever bet on.
26:37
Right, yeah, that that would yeah, that would be interesting.
26:39
Like and, and some of the prop bets that you do throughout the
26:42
and, and I'm as guilty as the next person because I I love
26:45
betting prop bets because it makes it fun.
26:47
Like the national anthem. I do the coin toss every year,
26:50
like, you know, just ones that are just fun to do and it's just
26:55
I I think it's going to be. But you presented a great
26:58
questionnaire. I was like, how do you find that
27:02
balance of? Like, OK, you're going to do it.
27:04
We know. Where do you find the balance
27:06
of? Have you ever seen the movie
27:08
Blue Chips? Yeah.
27:10
All right, so everybody's seen the movie Blue Chips and it.
27:13
It's a great movie. Anthony Hardaway's in it.
27:15
Shaquille O'neal's in it. And this is when they were
27:18
pretty much starting to become NBA players, and they were
27:22
trying to figure out a movie that betting would really stick
27:25
out from sports. That movie really stands for
27:29
what betting is starting to transform in not professional
27:32
sports, but college sports. And it shows you that in the
27:35
90s, this has been going on for a very, very long time illegally
27:39
now, coaches were paying players to come to their school under
27:43
the table. Now coaches can pay them over
27:45
the table and everybody knows that they're paying these guys
27:48
to come to their schools. What is the difference between
27:52
paying a player to come and play for you or betting on a game or
27:56
betting on a sport while you know, it's the same freaking
28:00
thing. It's it's the same thing in my
28:02
eyes when it comes to obviously it's become more legalized when
28:07
it comes to going after players and NI L deals and everything
28:10
like that. Now you're talking about sports
28:12
betting. When is it?
28:13
When is it going to change where you're going to see that where
28:16
where you're going to be able to bet on sports?
28:18
It doesn't matter if you're playing or not playing it.
28:20
It's blue chips. Was it as a movie for basketball
28:24
where obviously players were coming and we're getting paid
28:28
off to come to play for their school and and picking schools.
28:31
Now you're talking about movies that we're going to see for the
28:34
future where you're going to find out that this has been
28:37
going on a lot longer than you you have thought when it comes
28:41
to college and professional sports.
28:43
I'm trying to remember a movie that really stands out from me
28:46
where you can remember about betting, sports betting, and I'm
28:51
still trying to figure it out. I know there was a movie with
28:54
Matthew McConaughey and Al Pacino.
28:56
What was that movie called? Bias Buyers Club.
28:58
No, it wasn't buyers. Club he was.
29:01
So Matthew McConaughey was a former football player, he was a
29:04
quarterback. He gets hurt and I think more
29:07
for the money is something something for the money.
29:10
I I I don't remember Al Pacino was a betting he he ran a
29:14
betting scam and he invites. Was it true for the money?
29:17
No, for for the love of the money for the love of the money.
29:21
And Matthew McConaughey was working.
29:23
He was he was doing some kind of thing.
29:26
He was driving different things or I don't remember the exact
29:29
thing. He was riding his bike around
29:31
and he was working. And so somebody asked him,
29:33
somebody didn't show up to work and he asked him to do some prop
29:36
bets for and, and I'm reading, I'm reading what Jabba's putting
29:40
over there. But no, so he was doing prop
29:44
bets and, and then obviously Al Pacino, he ran, he ran some
29:48
sports betting organization. So what he did was he reached
29:51
out to Matthew McConaughey. He called him up and then he,
29:55
he, he put something in his drawer, had somebody put
29:57
something in his drawer and told him, how much do you want?
29:59
So he actually flew to New York and then he gave him an offer
30:04
that he couldn't refuse, gave him a a big bungalow and and a
30:08
beautiful new car. New soon changed his name and he
30:11
he became something that you would never, he would have never
30:14
thought he was going to be. How could you guys never seen
30:17
that movie? That movie was a great movie and
30:20
I'm trying to again. I, I, it was a while ago that I
30:23
saw the movie. When was it out?
30:25
It happened. In 2000, early 2000, mid 2000s
30:28
it it came 2005. Yeah, and it's a good movie.
30:32
It was a really, really. Oh yeah, Yeah, yeah.
30:34
Yeah, I mean 2 for the money, Tommy.
30:35
Scoops was right 2005 the other gambling movie.
30:39
I think you were referencing the rounders.
30:41
There's the color of money. I'm saying like sports gambling.
30:45
Obviously rounders poker movie is like unmatched in my opinion.
30:48
No, I'm just thinking. Thinking of sports gambling
30:50
movies that yeah, 2 for the money was the one that suck and
30:53
that's a true story yeah, that was when.
30:55
McConaughey was trying like he ended up like getting his chick
30:58
cuz the chick was older and he was like working under Pacino
31:01
that Sandler. Movie was great too.
31:03
The Uncut Gems, where he's the degenerate gambler.
31:07
Yeah, he was Kevin Garnett. Yeah, but the the movie.
31:09
That really is true for the money was the movie that really
31:12
stood out to me because obviously Matthew, I have now
31:15
now that. I looked it up.
31:16
I have. That was a really good movie.
31:18
Yeah. Al Pacino was great in the movie
31:20
and obviously it was there were so many ups and downs in the
31:24
movie and then he he was this like he hit on every single one
31:27
of his bats. He was like at 78% and all of a
31:29
sudden he he asked Pacino for more money and then everything
31:33
started falling off for him. He started losing and then they
31:37
were working with mafia guys and then the mafia was after him.
31:40
And then obviously eventually he had to get away from it.
31:43
He made one prop bet and thank God he won.
31:46
And, and then he ran away, went back home and he became a
31:49
football coach. But why am I bringing it up?
31:51
Because this has been going on for a very, very long time.
31:54
Prop betting and all that other stuff has been going on a very,
31:56
very long time. But now that has become
31:58
legalized all over the country. You really can't stop it
32:02
anymore. Michael Porter saying that on
32:04
the on the Steinie podcast, he's saying that there's no way of
32:07
stopping this. This is going to continuously
32:09
keep getting worse. Players and young kids are going
32:12
to do this because they come from nothing.
32:15
And that's just the way it works.
32:17
You can argue this all you want, but it's only going to get
32:21
worse. Now what is the NBA going to do?
32:23
Are they going to find these guys or suspend these guys for
32:25
life forever? If it wasn't John Day, it was
32:28
LeBron James or Giannis or any one of those guys.
32:30
They get suspended for 50 games and they come back.
32:33
John Days are nobody, nobody cares.
32:35
The NBA wants to make a statement.
32:37
Adam Silva wants to make a, you know, make a what do they call
32:40
that they make? Use them as an example, an.
32:42
Example out of. Them, so they said, you know
32:44
what we're going to do? We're going to do this to him.
32:47
We're going to suspend a full life.
32:49
And now it's they're going to stop NBA players from doing
32:51
this. Not necessarily because NBA
32:54
players are just going to find other ways to scheme it.
32:56
Like Jabba was saying, they're going to use their friends,
32:59
they're going to use their cousins, their aunts, their
33:01
uncles to make those bets, athletes and other sports.
33:04
And they're. Still going to get those bets in
33:07
and they're still going to get away with it.
33:08
And this is, again, Floyd Mayweather's been doing it
33:12
forever. He's admitted it.
33:14
He's admitted it. So, so if he's saying that he's
33:18
been doing, by the way, on the Conor McGregor fight, he put
33:22
$3,000,000 on himself that he was going to knock Connor out in
33:27
the 10th or 11th round, which he did.
33:28
By the way, he TKO Connor in a 10th or 11th round because he
33:31
broke his orbited bone, his eye socket.
33:34
And that's why Connor hasn't really fought really since that
33:38
fight. And it's a funny story is he put
33:41
$3,000,000 down. He admitted to it and cut Drupal
33:44
to his money like a Drupal just take, you put $3,000,000 down,
33:48
what are you going to get on that bet?
33:49
You're betting 11th round knockout, knockdown or TKL,
33:53
you're probably going to bring in about 20, five, $30 million.
33:56
And by the way, in that fight he wore shorts that paid him $50
34:01
million I think. I think that was the number 50
34:03
to $30 million he made just wearing some organization shorts
34:07
for that fight. But what I'm saying is when
34:09
you're making that kind of money or you're bringing in that kind
34:12
of money, no matter what professional sport or college
34:15
sport you're making and you've never seen that money, you'll
34:17
want to double it. You want to find ways that you
34:19
can help your families out or you have your friends out and
34:22
you're going to go and you're going to put that money where
34:24
it's going to make you more money or lose all your money.
34:27
And as we all know, Antoine Walker, another guy that has
34:31
made millions and millions of dollars and now is one of the
34:34
brokest and ex NBA players we've ever Vince.
34:37
Vin Baker. Remember Vin Baker played from
34:40
Milwaukee, played for the Knicks five time All Star.
34:43
I saw him. I I actually saw him at
34:46
Starbucks in Connecticut. He was the manager in Starbucks.
34:48
Mikey C will tell you that story.
34:50
I knew it was Vin Baker. Mike was like, that's no way, no
34:53
way in hell that's Vin Baker. And I said, that's Vin Baker.
34:56
And I pulled him outside and I said, are you Vin Baker?
34:58
And he smiled at me and told me, yeah, I have a picture of it, so
35:02
it's not a lie. And Vin Baker went broke because
35:05
of drinking and because of gambling.
35:08
So again, would you say though in that sport?
35:11
Would you would. I'm just, yeah, spitballing
35:14
here. If OK, say you went as
35:17
commissioner or you create a committee or what have you,
35:20
right. Would you be like, OK, you can
35:23
sports bet, just not on your own sport.
35:27
Like do you think that would ever get legs or they have to
35:30
get that kind? Of thing, because you could
35:31
still have connections in other sports too.
35:33
Like if you're a football player that grew up with a guy that's
35:37
also in MLB and he's a pitcher and you're saying, OK, should I
35:40
bet? Use use.
35:41
Stafford and Kershaw for that, right?
35:42
So let's say so. Stafford is the example like
35:45
let's say Clayton Kershaw, how many outs you're going to get in
35:47
a game? What's your out prop?
35:48
You could still bet the under if Clayton says, oh, Dave said I'm
35:51
only going to be an opener for today, I'm only going to be
35:53
that. Like there's still information
35:55
that can be it. So you probably have to regulate
35:56
that a little differently in order to do that obviously in
35:59
your own sports even tighter because you're tight with a lot
36:01
of see this is what we're. Talking about right now, this is
36:03
what we're talking about. There's nothing to talk about
36:05
when it comes to sports. So we're talking about Mark
36:08
Steinie. It's not Mark Steiner.
36:12
I was wrong. It's just some, I guess he's an
36:14
Instagram influencer of some sort, some guy who looks like
36:18
Speedy's age or younger to that's has a podcast, whatever
36:22
his part. Is that we're talking about this
36:23
guy one night with Steinies podcast and we're talking and
36:28
and we're talking about Michael Porter junior talking about
36:31
sports betting because there's nothing going on in sports right
36:33
now and that's just the way it is.
36:35
Look, they don't have to. Regulate though like Speedy
36:37
saying Speedy, they don't have to do that.
36:39
The casinos are not going to allow this to happen.
36:43
We've already seen it. Class A threw 6 pitches in the
36:46
dirt. Those guys weren't paid off on
36:48
those prop bets. No, there's been a way where
36:51
those guys paid off by the casinos.
36:54
They're not going to allow this to happen.
36:55
They're going to alert everybody immediately because they're not
36:59
going to take a loss. So it's almost a self policing
37:02
system against it. So you're going to have, you're
37:04
going to see people just get good at it, right?
37:06
You're not going to dirt 6 pitches in a row.
37:09
You're going to find a bet that's easy to manipulate that
37:12
won't affect the outcome of the game other than, you know, I
37:17
don't know, you could say like you have an over under, you
37:20
know, 2 1/2 walks in the game as a pitcher, starting pitcher,
37:24
very easy to walk a guy, you know, I mean, it's going to be.
37:28
Stuff like that. I'm I'm a little thrown.
37:30
Off with this because again, I think that obviously becoming,
37:35
you know, sports betting becoming such a popular thing
37:38
around the world because it's become legalized that you, if
37:42
you're a professional athlete, you should be allowed to bet on
37:45
sports, maybe not your own game. If you want to bet on anything
37:48
else besides your own game, you should be allowed to if you know
37:51
about the NBA. Now I I understand the referees
37:54
know more about those games and more of the inside stuff in
37:58
specific games. And some of these players are
38:00
very connected with these referees, friends with these
38:03
referees. I understand that.
38:05
But you can't hide this. You can't control sports
38:09
betting. It's just it.
38:10
To me, the value of it and the money that it's bringing in is
38:15
not only helping professional sports grow, it's giving owners
38:19
and players more value to their game.
38:23
So I under that's what Michael Porter is pretty much saying.
38:27
You can't keep the players from doing it.
38:29
They come from nothing. They're they've been doing it
38:32
forever. I mean, high school, you're
38:34
playing these young kids were playing fantasy sports.
38:36
Is that not gambling? Honestly, that's gambling.
38:40
It's just another way of calling it gambling.
38:42
It's been legalized. Fantasy sports has been going on
38:46
forever since I was in high school.
38:48
It started with the NFL and the Major League has been around
38:51
since really the the 90s, we had fantasy baseball going on.
38:56
You're going to tell me that's not sports betting?
38:59
Of course it's sports betting. If you're putting money down on
39:04
a game that you're picking players to to play in and
39:07
they're hitting home runs or they're getting, they're walking
39:11
5-6 times, you're making money off of it.
39:14
That's betting. That's sports betting.
39:16
So how is that that's legalized? But you betting on your own
39:20
sport, not your game, your own game, but your own sport in a
39:24
particular game of the week. It's not legalized.
39:28
It's not, it's not to me valued by the NBA to allow it to have
39:32
to allow it to be kosher. I guess I well I'm just there is
39:38
a solution. Errol and it's been put out
39:40
there and it would hurt the business of a great guest.
39:42
We had Ariel Epstein. It's get rid of the prophets.
39:46
The prophets are not how they're manipulating it.
39:48
Well, they can. They weren't.
39:50
They haven't been around forever.
39:51
They really haven't. So I think that they're First
39:55
off the live prophets that can go.
39:58
They could definitely stop the live prophets.
40:02
But as far as some of these prop bets where it's like the 11th
40:05
man on the roster type of things with like the Jonte Porter or
40:09
guy who just made in the rotation you're betting on.
40:12
If he's going to get a combination of 9 1/2 points,
40:16
blocks and rebounds in a game. And the guy's like, Oh yeah, bet
40:19
the under, I'm going to pretend I'm hurt in the third minute of
40:22
the game, which is what he did at that's that's how they made
40:26
money. But the casino soft right
40:27
through it. You can't.
40:29
You're not going to be able to get away with this stuff.
40:31
You're going to tell me to bet? You're going to tell me the
40:32
casinos don't know what's going to happen?
40:34
How do they know? How are they 65% or 66% of the
40:39
time, right? Of course they know what's going
40:41
on. They have an inside source if
40:43
something is. Fishy, right, because they know
40:45
they're supposed to be that percent right?
40:47
They look into it immediately. Everyone's who works there's job
40:51
depends on it that they have to find out why there's this
40:55
abnormality and sometimes it's huge fraud as we're finding out.
41:00
It's pretty crazy. I, I guess do you think it's
41:02
just going to get worse like Porter says?
41:04
Because I think it's more. Often I think it's already worse
41:08
and I think it's only going to get worse because these young
41:12
kids that what happened worse, Worse how?
41:14
Like in in what context? College Sports.
41:17
Everybody keeps talking about professional sports.
41:18
I think college sports is what we're going to be watching
41:21
because these kids, they're 18 years old, they don't know what
41:24
to do with their money. They're getting now these NIL
41:27
deals, they're getting significant amount of money
41:30
through sponsorships and advertisers and they don't know
41:32
what to do with it. So what are they going to do
41:34
with it? They could go out drinking, they
41:36
could buy their buddies cars. No, they want to double that
41:39
money. They want to make more money on
41:41
it. So what are they going to do?
41:42
They're going to look at the college game or they're going to
41:44
look at their own game and say, hey, listen, I can make a prop
41:46
bet on myself. If I if I'm 50% of my throwing
41:51
each game and I could bet 50% of the time that I'm going to make
41:55
most of my throws, I'm going to win myself a significant amount
41:59
of money. You can't stop this.
42:00
Maybe Fish is right. Maybe stopping prop bets would
42:03
work. I just don't know if they're
42:05
going to allow it because it's bringing them in so much money.
42:09
Now I'm making, all right, let's say it's an NBA player and he's
42:12
doing it. That's one bet to how many bets?
42:16
200,000 bets. So obviously the NCAA has a guy
42:21
or a kid making one prop bet and he brings in $200,000 off of his
42:27
$25,000 and then they're making. Vegas is making out of 200 bets,
42:35
millions and millions of dollars.
42:36
Why are they crying about the $200,000 that they lost?
42:40
That's what I'm saying. I mean, you can't have one and
42:44
not the other. So I I understand why Vegas is
42:48
upset about. I understand why betting has
42:51
been such a problem when it comes to obviously what's going
42:56
on not only in the NBA, the NFL, the NCAA and the NHL and all
43:01
professional sports, even tennis.
43:03
I mean, the prop bats with tennis guys hitting over 100 on
43:06
their serve, betting on, hitting on.
43:08
You can bet on anything now, anything.
43:12
That's the crazy thing and that's why I think Michael
43:16
Porter saying it's going to get worse.
43:17
So why even argue it? Find a way where you can make it
43:21
fair for the athletes or the betting man to go out there and
43:26
place a prop bet or a bet on a specific sports game.
43:31
That's my opinion on it. I don't think any argument to
43:34
that, and that's why we're trying to find stories to talk
43:36
about. It's a big story because Michael
43:38
Porter came out to protect his brother.
43:40
Dante is going to never play NBA basketball again.
43:43
He's going to have to go overseas and overseas to make
43:46
money. If Japan or or any one of these,
43:51
Louis, what is it, Lithuania or Spain or Portugal allows him to
43:57
play? I heard Croatia.
43:59
Is a very big sports betting country so maybe there's
44:01
something like that or anything in that region that allows it
44:03
has more lenient and here's another.
44:05
Thing In Europe, sports betting is big when it comes to your
44:09
European football. I'm telling you right now,
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there's so much money when it comes to soccer, as we call
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soccer, they call European football.
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It is huge over there in England.
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It's always been Australia and all the big countries out there
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because soccer over there is king.
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It's the biggest sport in the world.
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You don't think that overseas they're not bringing in a
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significant amount of money or these news professional soccer
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players aren't betting on themselves or their their
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friends playing on those specific game in those specific
44:41
games because you're Ronaldo's telling me they're going to.
44:44
He scored and he's averaging about a goal and a half against
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that goalie. He's going to put in two goals
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in that game and he's not putting a prop bet on it.
44:53
Come on, guys, it's been going on a long time.
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Anyways, that's it for our show, ladies and gentlemen.
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I hope everybody enjoyed it. I didn't.
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Anyways, thank you to our very special guests.
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They were fantastic. They really were.
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I, I appreciate both of them. I will say this, I, I'm
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definitely going to reach out to Bob Rathbin for joining us.
45:17
He's sensational. He really was.
45:19
And and Mr. Blovich, dude, I've been dealing with my own shit
45:23
during the show. I don't know if you guys would
45:25
have done the show when you when you get a friggin text the way
45:28
you did knowing that your sister's in the hospital.
45:30
So I've been dealing with that over the last 4 1/2 hours.
45:35
I don't know if I'm going to Saint John's after this.
45:37
I might, I might do that. I don't know.
45:39
So, but anyways, thank you to all the fans on obviously,
45:45
Spotify, Apple, all the Tik Toks that we're on from worldwide
45:49
sports radio network and chop in the mouth, Instagram, Facebook,
45:54
Worldwide sports radio network, YouTube, all the different
45:57
platforms, platforms that we're on.
45:59
We really appreciate you guys as always.
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We'll be back on Mondays and Monday and Wednesday.
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Speedy, do we have any guests? Niche I was Nathan for.
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Getting this one on Monday at 8:45.
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We have Jaden Fielder, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Jaden
46:13
Fielder, Who is the son? That's when fish won't be the.
46:15
Executive producer of the show Wrong.
46:19
Jaden. Fielder, the son of Prince
46:20
Fielder and the grandson of Cecil Fielder, left fielder and
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2nd baseman, is currently in the Milwaukee Brewers organization.
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Will be joining us at 8:45. Tender anyways.
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There you go. So we got somebody on Monday.
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We'll probably have a couple more guys on Wednesday.
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Yeah, it was a good one. And as always, we have to go it.
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It's what is anybody? Is anybody doing anything fun on
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the weekend? I am.
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I'm going. Who cares what you're doing?
46:47
Anybody else have anything fun to do over the weekend?
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I might go to a card. Show and offload some of these
46:53
Pokémon cards. There you go.
46:55
It sounds like a good time. I I think my son is like.
46:58
Stoked about it if we go. So yeah.
47:02
Well, I'm I'm. It's my.
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It's my. Niece's birthday.
47:05
We're going down to see her. Happy birthday.
47:06
Happy birthday. How?
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Old is she? 2.
47:10
Two and where are you going? Going to be right by you.
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Down on the in Strong Island, Long Island.
47:17
The old. The old fish pot, the old
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snatch. Warner The.
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Long Island ducks card Goody nice spider ducks.
47:26
Neutral ambush not. Encouraging one hairstyle Dead
47:30
man's Dick. All right, that's.
47:32
It good night everybody. We'll talk to you then.
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Radio Network.