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Ep. 296: Rut Fresh Radio 9/4/19 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan in this episode number two D
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Speaker 1: and to Dan the show. We're kicking off another year
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Speaker 1: of our radio mini series in which we chat with
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Speaker 1: hunters from all across the country each week to get
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Speaker 1: the latest intel on current deer activity and the tactics
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Speaker 1: that are working. Right now, all right, welcome to the
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Speaker 1: Wired Hunt Podcast, brought to you by on X, and
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Speaker 1: this is our first episode of two thousand nineteen of
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Speaker 1: our RUT Radio series. But we're actually calling out something
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Speaker 1: slightly different this year. We're calling rut Fresh Radio. But
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Speaker 1: it is the exact same things that you've heard over
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Speaker 1: the last three seasons. We're calling this rout Fresh Radio.
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Speaker 1: I will give you a very quick behind the scenes
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Speaker 1: explanation here because our buddy Spencer new Hearth. While you, Spencer,
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Speaker 1: you started something called RUT Fresh I think last year,
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Speaker 1: right a blog in which you were sharing written RUT
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Speaker 1: reports that kind of went along with the same kinds
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Speaker 1: of things we were talking about on RUT radio. And
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Speaker 1: when you joined the Mediator team, which happened when last
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Speaker 1: year earlier this year October. Okay, so when you joined,
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Speaker 1: we decided, hey, we should keep ret Fresh Reports going,
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Speaker 1: but we're of course and keep rut Radio going. And
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Speaker 1: it could get kind of confusing if we had the
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Speaker 1: two same things but with slightly different names. We decided
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Speaker 1: to combine the names. So there's going to be the
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Speaker 1: same RUT Radio mini series that we do here in
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Speaker 1: the podcast. We're just gonna call rut Fresh Radio, and
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Speaker 1: then you're gonna have rut Fresh written reports on the
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Speaker 1: mediair website to right, That's right. Those are going to
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Speaker 1: start in October, okay, sweet. So for those that aren't
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Speaker 1: familiar with what we do here on this series, this
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Speaker 1: is going to be a series that we are running
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Speaker 1: in addition to the regular wire Dump podcast each week,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to run from this week all the
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Speaker 1: way to the end of the two thousand nine hunting season.
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Speaker 1: Give me the cliff notes on what folks can expect, Spencer.
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Speaker 1: This is the fourth season of doing this mini podcast.
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Speaker 1: These episodes are going to come out every single Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: and every week I'm going to talk to some highly
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Speaker 1: respected white tail hunters from across the country and get
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Speaker 1: the latest reports from what they're seeing, what the buck
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Speaker 1: activity has been like, uh, if the moon face has
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Speaker 1: changed anything, if the weather pattern to mess stuff up,
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Speaker 1: what those food sources look like in their area, if
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Speaker 1: the bachelor groups are still together, if calling works right now,
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Speaker 1: if signmaking has started, all of that stuff. And so
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Speaker 1: we get a breakdown of what they've been seeing in
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Speaker 1: the past few days, and then also prediction on what
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Speaker 1: they expect to come in the coming days. Right, that's right,
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Speaker 1: And the idea of this podcast is to give you
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Speaker 1: the freshest intel possible. Good at give you guys a
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Speaker 1: peep behind the curtain here. But we are recording this
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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday in this episode will drop Wednesday morning,
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Speaker 1: so the reports that you're hearing are less than twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours old, and hopefully if you are somebody who
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Speaker 1: is a weekend warrior hunter, this will give you some
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Speaker 1: ideas of what to do in the upcoming weekend. You're
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Speaker 1: gonna hear some great reports on here from hopefully somebody
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Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods, and maybe they'll say
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Speaker 1: something that you pick up on um and it helps
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Speaker 1: you make an informed decision for an upcoming hunt. That
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Speaker 1: happens to me almost every week prior to a hunt.
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Speaker 1: I'm using this intel hopefully just like you guys are,
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Speaker 1: and it's really helped me in a lot of cases
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Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, I'll say another thing that we've
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Speaker 1: both kind of spoken to over the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: we've started seeing not only there's is there value in
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Speaker 1: these the very recent intel part of it, but then
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Speaker 1: also what I've started to do is I will go
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Speaker 1: back and listen to the prior year or previous couple
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Speaker 1: of years during the same date range, and then you
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Speaker 1: can start to pick up on certain trends. So, for example,
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Speaker 1: this is the first week of September, we're gonna hear
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Speaker 1: from people that are hunting, you know, right now. But
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Speaker 1: if we went and listened to last year's episode from
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Speaker 1: the first week of September, we might find certain things
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Speaker 1: to talk about that might relate to this year as well.
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Speaker 1: Maybe last year's episode someone said, hey, we got a
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Speaker 1: cold front. Then September five, it got dear moving like crazy.
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Speaker 1: And if you have it to be hunting this week
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Speaker 1: on September five or eighth or whatever, and you have
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Speaker 1: a coal front coming, you can say, hey, that worked
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Speaker 1: for Tony back then, I bet you that might help
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Speaker 1: me this year. So listen to this week's episode, but
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Speaker 1: if you've got extra time, you might want to go
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Speaker 1: back and listen to one of the three previous seasons
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Speaker 1: during the same date range, and you can find other
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Speaker 1: things that could help you too, right, haven't you seen
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Speaker 1: that as well, Spencer, Yeah, definitely, And I can already
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Speaker 1: see one way that is going to be quite different,
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Speaker 1: um is how the summer weather is now affecting these
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Speaker 1: really early season haunts. For example, most of the country
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Speaker 1: had a very wet spring and summer. I know specifically
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Speaker 1: in the Great Plains it was that way. But then
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Speaker 1: I also learned through this week's interviews that some of
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Speaker 1: these other places dealt with the same thing, and it
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Speaker 1: really changed some early season tactics. Tony Peterson is a
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Speaker 1: guy that if you've listened to Wire to Hunt before
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Speaker 1: or read anything he's written, or you know, checked out
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Speaker 1: his podcast, you'll know that early season he loves to
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Speaker 1: focus on watering holes. It's a great place to pattern
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Speaker 1: a book, and it's a great place to avoid people
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Speaker 1: because everyone else kind of likes those safe field edge setups.
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Speaker 1: And this year Tony was hunting in Nebraska who we
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Speaker 1: will hear from later um, And he said there was
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Speaker 1: so much water available and everything was so wet that
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Speaker 1: that plan just went out the window and he had to,
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Speaker 1: you know, change up what he was doing because those
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Speaker 1: water hole setups were not gonna work. And it was
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Speaker 1: the same thing from the guys we talked to in Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina and in North Dakota. Yeah, so who else
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Speaker 1: are we hearing from? We start off in Tennessee with
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Speaker 1: Jacob Myers from The Southern Outdoorsman. Then in Nebraska we
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Speaker 1: talked to Tony Peterson from the Hunt for Real podcast.
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Speaker 1: In South Carolina from Cut four Outdoors is Cameron Busby,
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Speaker 1: and then in North Dakota Dylan Lens from the Breaking
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Speaker 1: Point TV. There was a ton of success from this
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Speaker 1: year's group of guys. On the first episode, Jacob Myers
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Speaker 1: in Tennessee they killed two bucks. Uh, Tony de Brat,
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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson from Nebraska, he's already on his way home
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Speaker 1: back Minnesota because him and his body both tagged out.
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Speaker 1: And then Dylan Lens in North Dakota from the Breaking
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Speaker 1: Point they killed one on opener as well. Nice awesome, Well,
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Speaker 1: I am our chronological or is gonna be a little
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Speaker 1: bit wonky here because I am in North Dakota on
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Speaker 1: my own North Dakota hunt. But the Regular Wire podcast
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Speaker 1: that comes out tomorrow was recorded before that hunt, so
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Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much away yet. Um.
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Speaker 1: The very light report is that I saw a decent
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Speaker 1: amount of activity just prior to opening day, and on
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Speaker 1: opening day there was a pretty decent amount of movement,
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Speaker 1: but it slowed down significantly after that, possibly hunting pressure
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Speaker 1: related or possibly because it got super hot. Um. That
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Speaker 1: is my very light activity report from North Dakota. Can
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Speaker 1: I Can I just leave it at that? Well, let
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Speaker 1: me know one thing, are you dealing with the same
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Speaker 1: thing as everyone else? That everything is wet and there's
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Speaker 1: plenty of water That that is not a focal point
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Speaker 1: of your early season Sits definitely not a focal point
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Speaker 1: of my sets here. Um, not so much because like
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Speaker 1: I was going to keen on water holes anyways, but
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Speaker 1: there's there's there's a river right through this area that's
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Speaker 1: providing water everywhere. Um, So that just wasn't going to
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Speaker 1: be a factor from the get go. Um, but I
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Speaker 1: can say that definitely stuff is lushed that I will
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Speaker 1: say there's there's food everywhere, seemingly a lot of green vegetation,
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Speaker 1: and that has led to deer activity being very spread out.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem if there's one food source that they're
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Speaker 1: keying in on. Um. There's so much natural brows that
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Speaker 1: the activity has just been kind of willy nilly um.
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Speaker 1: And maybe that had to do with it being such
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Speaker 1: a such a relatively wet summer out here compared to
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Speaker 1: other years. All right, Mark, well, I think we get
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Speaker 1: to these first colors um. And one more thing I
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Speaker 1: don't think that we spoke to was that these podcast
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Speaker 1: episodes are always going to be short. So these episodes
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Speaker 1: are gonna be around thirty minutes, super digestible. Hopefully you
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Speaker 1: can kill it on your way to work in the
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Speaker 1: morning and then that puts you in a white tail
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Speaker 1: hunting mood. Yes, and I will I will add, though,
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Speaker 1: as I sometimes do, I will drag these things longer
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Speaker 1: because I'm a rambler. So I gotta give one more
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Speaker 1: update Spencer Um. Sort of in tandem with these podcast episodes,
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Speaker 1: we also released a new video series over on the
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Speaker 1: Mediator that describes how to kill a buck during different
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Speaker 1: portions in the hunting season, and it was you, myself
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Speaker 1: and Tony Peterson. We got together and we broke down
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Speaker 1: each month into a first half in the second half,
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Speaker 1: and then discussed what our ideas would be, what our mindset,
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Speaker 1: what our tactics would be during each one of those
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Speaker 1: segments of the year. So, for example, the video that's
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Speaker 1: already come out, how to Kill a Buck September, we
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Speaker 1: went and we each shared a couple of the high
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Speaker 1: level ideas we'd be thinking about in early September one hunting,
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Speaker 1: and then we picked an example property and we dissect
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Speaker 1: that property. We look at an aerial view of the property,
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Speaker 1: all three of us and walk through where we would
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Speaker 1: consider hunting, how we would consider hunting it, each one
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Speaker 1: of us kind of sharing our own perspectives, and then
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Speaker 1: one of us actually had hunted that property, and then
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Speaker 1: that would be the last person to go. And then
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Speaker 1: we'd say, hey, you were right about this or I
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Speaker 1: saw this was very similar to what you guys are
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Speaker 1: guessing um and I think those turned out pretty interesting
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Speaker 1: and very helpful. So the first one is available on
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Speaker 1: the Meat Eater YouTube channel right now. We will have
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Speaker 1: new episodes coming every other week, right that's right, and
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Speaker 1: we are bring kicking down a variety of different properties
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Speaker 1: in these videos, public and private, from Pennsylvania to Oklahoma,
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Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, to Kentucky to Ohio and everything in between.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully if episode one talking early September and a
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Speaker 1: property in Kentucky doesn't apply to you, that one of
10:19
Speaker 1: these next ones will. Yeah, we we We can't cover
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Speaker 1: every single region every single time, but you can definitely
10:25
Speaker 1: still pull pieces and parts that can apply to your
10:28
Speaker 1: own specific situation. So with that said, Spencer, uh, should
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Speaker 1: I shut it down and let you take it for
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10:37
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Speaker 1: Outdoorsman podcast in Tennessee. Jacob in Tennessee, what would you
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Speaker 1: say the buck activity is ben lately? On a scale
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Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd say since the Velvet buck
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Speaker 1: hunt on the twenty three, it's been probably close to
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Speaker 1: seven or eight right now, So the deer have definitely
11:35
Speaker 1: been feeding quite a bit in the afternoon. Uh. You know,
11:38
Speaker 1: they're still you know, kind of grouped up, so you'll
11:40
Speaker 1: be able to go out anywhere you have eggs, especially
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Speaker 1: any kind of beans right now. Uh. You just being
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Speaker 1: able to see deer quite easily, especially if you have
11:47
Speaker 1: advantage point where you can glass from. You're seeing deer
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Speaker 1: moving throughout the day. I know on that Velvet hunt
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Speaker 1: on when we were able to kill our deer, we
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Speaker 1: were seeing deer moving as early as four o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the afternoon, Bucks, Jacob. In most of the country and
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Speaker 1: early early openers like September one, But you guys are
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Speaker 1: hunting like seven eight nine days. And how does that
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Speaker 1: Tennessee early velvet season change from how you'd maybe be
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Speaker 1: hunting right now. Yeah, Actually I have not had previous
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Speaker 1: experience hunting that early. Uh. So Tennessee puts on a
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Speaker 1: where they classifyed they market it as a velvet buck
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Speaker 1: hunt for the whole state. It's open to private land
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Speaker 1: for the whole state. Uh. And this year it was August.
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Speaker 1: But last year they found c w D in the
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Speaker 1: western part of the state and actually made a c
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Speaker 1: w D zone and for that hunt. This year, in
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Speaker 1: that c w D zone, it was open on thirteen
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Speaker 1: pieces of publicly and track in that part of the
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Speaker 1: state in that zone, so we were able to hunt
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Speaker 1: one of those parcels of public Also, they opened it
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Speaker 1: for muzzleloader, which made it a really fun time to
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Speaker 1: go hunt. Uh. It really did change our thoughts on
12:54
Speaker 1: hunting because we're going from you know, trying to focus
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Speaker 1: on you know, what we would think is later season
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Speaker 1: food story is down there. Uh, kind of getting away
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Speaker 1: from the egg trying to find for simmons and different oaks, UH,
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Speaker 1: to focusing strictly on agg especially soybeans. And it paid
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Speaker 1: off very quickly. We're able to shoot two deer within
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours of the hunt, and unfortunately, it wasn't
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Speaker 1: able to locate my dear because I made a non
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Speaker 1: lethal shot on that deer. But it's it's been fantastic.
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Speaker 1: It is this very different when you don't have experience
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Speaker 1: hunting that early in the season. Did you guys focus
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Speaker 1: on water at all? Hunting that early when I assumed
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Speaker 1: the weather was really hot, Actually we did not. So
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Speaker 1: this whole summer, we've had a pretty good amount of
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Speaker 1: rain in Tennessee, really the whole southeast, but over the
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Speaker 1: last month or so it's dried up just a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But where we were hunting, you know, you were still
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Speaker 1: finding you know, water pockets, you know, whether it was
13:43
Speaker 1: you know, some puddles, a little bit of running water,
13:45
Speaker 1: whatever it was. So you know, water wasn't a major
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Speaker 1: source of you know, finding and locating deer on that
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Speaker 1: hunt or really anytime recently late this summer, some parts
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Speaker 1: of Kentucky and Tennessee have been experiencing the h D.
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Speaker 1: Is that something that you've dealt with in in your
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Speaker 1: part of Tennessee, not necessarily in my part, but guess
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Speaker 1: there has been a few outbreaks. One County in UH
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Speaker 1: in general has had quite a few of outbreaks, which
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Speaker 1: is Hickman County, which is kind of middle Tennessee, midwestern Tennessee, UM,
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Speaker 1: and they've had quite a few outbreaks. Has been a
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Speaker 1: lot of landowners posting about finding quite a few dear dead,
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Speaker 1: which is unfortunate, but it doesn't seem like it's widespread
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Speaker 1: by no means. With that velvet season that Tennessee has,
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Speaker 1: and you can use a muzzleloader. UM that obviously allows
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Speaker 1: you to reach out and touch these deer at a
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Speaker 1: greater distance. So how do your setups look hunting with
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Speaker 1: a muzzleloader that early versus if you were bow hunting.
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Speaker 1: Funny you said that. So again, in that c w
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Speaker 1: D zone we could use muzzloaders. UH. The other part
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Speaker 1: of the state they could not. And really it kind
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Speaker 1: of did open up our mind of how we could
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Speaker 1: hunt them because in deer and velvet and agg um there,
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Speaker 1: in my experience, they're very easy to stalk up on.
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Speaker 1: And that's actually what we did for the second year.
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Speaker 1: The first year, my buddy was able to shoot it
14:56
Speaker 1: out of his saddle, um, and you know, just to
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Speaker 1: be able to get a forty yards on his deer,
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Speaker 1: my dear, Actually we had his stock out into the
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Speaker 1: beans to get a shot at at sixty yards, which really,
15:07
Speaker 1: you know, when the beans are so tall, you know
15:08
Speaker 1: you're looking almost you know, you know, waist high as
15:11
Speaker 1: taller beans. You know, you've got getting pretty close to
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Speaker 1: get a good shot at him. So that definitely did,
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Speaker 1: you know, change our way of hunting, but definitely made
15:19
Speaker 1: it for you know, quite a fun hunting. I wish
15:21
Speaker 1: you know, more people actually took part in that. So
15:23
Speaker 1: Tennessee's regular deer opener still about twenty five days away
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Speaker 1: late September, So how will your tactics change when that
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Speaker 1: early when that opener comes versus what you were just hunting. Yes,
15:35
Speaker 1: so when that season opens again, I hunt pretty much
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Speaker 1: strictly public line, and especially in Tennessee. One thing I
15:40
Speaker 1: love to hit on early season up there is per simmons. Uh, definitely,
15:44
Speaker 1: you know anywhere in mid to western Tennessee there's a
15:48
Speaker 1: ton of for simmons, which is a great food source
15:50
Speaker 1: early season, especially if you find a few tures that
15:53
Speaker 1: are dropping or after a heavy storm has come through
15:55
Speaker 1: and knocked a bunch to the ground, you'll absolutely find
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Speaker 1: a bunch of deer, and that's definitely and that first,
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Speaker 1: you know, four or five days of the season. It's
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Speaker 1: something I like to focus on. Unless you can find
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Speaker 1: a good being field that either was late planet that
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Speaker 1: hasn't turned yellow yet. Uh, you know, that can be
16:10
Speaker 1: another good food source. But the problem is when you
16:12
Speaker 1: hunt public, anytime you're around beings on public, you're gonna
16:15
Speaker 1: have other guys there. So normally it's not uh, not
16:17
Speaker 1: normally very efficient in my opinion, in that part of
16:21
Speaker 1: the country. Going forward to the next week or so,
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Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to
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Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten, I expect
16:28
Speaker 1: once they come out of velvet, which right now they're
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Speaker 1: probably seventy five percent the deer still end velvet. I've
16:33
Speaker 1: seen a few deer coming out, and I've got some
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Speaker 1: buddies that a run trail cameras that are seeing deer
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Speaker 1: starting to come out of velvet. But uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: as they come out of velvet and they start kind
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Speaker 1: of splitting up a little bit, I can uh normally
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Speaker 1: see them start kind of eating off those fields so much,
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Speaker 1: uh and really kind of start covering a little bit
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Speaker 1: more ground and kind of getting into their fall ranges.
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Speaker 1: So when that happens, you know a lot of guys
16:53
Speaker 1: will start freaking out because their deer, you know, the
16:56
Speaker 1: patterns changed. They're coming to their you know, the camera
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Speaker 1: a couple of hours later or earlier than normal, which
17:01
Speaker 1: gives guys kind of worried. But you just gotta stay
17:03
Speaker 1: focused and try to find that betting area where they're
17:05
Speaker 1: located at and try moving closer to him our jacobile.
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Speaker 1: Congrats on those bucks. I'm jealous that you guys get
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Speaker 1: to start hunting so early. And thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate Spencer, Thank you all right and joining us
17:17
Speaker 1: on the line. Next is Tony Peterson in Nebraska from
17:20
Speaker 1: the Hunt for Real podcast. Tony, on a scale of
17:23
Speaker 1: one to ten, what would you say the buck activities
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Speaker 1: been lately? Oh? Man, I would say probably pushing up
17:29
Speaker 1: on an eight. You were currently on the road from
17:31
Speaker 1: Nebraska to Minnesota and you're headed home early for good reason?
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Speaker 1: Is that right? We are? Man? Uh we uh. We
17:39
Speaker 1: got down there a couple of days before the season
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Speaker 1: open on the first to glass and scouts the public
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Speaker 1: land and uh, my buddy and I I killed one
17:46
Speaker 1: opening night. My buddy killed on the next day, and
17:48
Speaker 1: now we're on Eariam home. Tony, you're one of the
17:51
Speaker 1: best public land bow hunters. I know. I said this
17:54
Speaker 1: multiple times over and it's just proved it again. So
17:57
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about those setups, because I'm
18:00
Speaker 1: really interested in how you killed big velvet bucks and
18:03
Speaker 1: back to back nights. Sure, we uh, you know, we
18:08
Speaker 1: we planned on hunting water because it was you know,
18:11
Speaker 1: it was gonna be hot. It was. It was eighty
18:13
Speaker 1: degrees when I killed my buck at ninety when he
18:15
Speaker 1: killed his, my buddy killed his. But there was water
18:18
Speaker 1: everywhere down there. There's been so much rain. So as
18:21
Speaker 1: soon as we got down there and we saw the
18:22
Speaker 1: water situation, we switched to try to find some food.
18:25
Speaker 1: And we thought some areas that had a ton of brows,
18:27
Speaker 1: but there was no concentrated deer activity. And then we
18:30
Speaker 1: found one good soybean field on public land that was
18:33
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hike to get into, and
18:35
Speaker 1: that was the ticket. As soon as I started glassing,
18:38
Speaker 1: and I knew we were probably gonna live and die
18:39
Speaker 1: by that field. Now, how obvious that this soybean field
18:43
Speaker 1: wasn't Were you competing with other hunters in that area
18:46
Speaker 1: because it seems like a place that most public land
18:48
Speaker 1: guys would focus on. Um, you would think. So. The
18:53
Speaker 1: good thing about the soybean field we found was I
18:55
Speaker 1: knew about it. I knew there was a field there
18:57
Speaker 1: from turkey hunting in this public land the spring, but
19:00
Speaker 1: you could barely see it from any road, and it
19:03
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't as obvious as it sounds. Maybe, And
19:06
Speaker 1: you know, we got in there early and did did
19:09
Speaker 1: some scouting in there. We did have two guys from
19:11
Speaker 1: Michigan pull up the night before the season opened, but
19:14
Speaker 1: they were they were really nice guys and they said, Oh,
19:16
Speaker 1: if you guys are in there hunt, we'll just wait.
19:18
Speaker 1: We're gonna be down here for a while. And so
19:20
Speaker 1: those guys, uh, they just backed off of it because
19:22
Speaker 1: it wasn't a very big spot and they that that
19:25
Speaker 1: was cool that they did that, because they let us
19:26
Speaker 1: have it, and we we ended up doing really well
19:29
Speaker 1: in there. Now, he said, ordinarily you'd be focused on water.
19:33
Speaker 1: What kind of water hunts do you like? Like little
19:35
Speaker 1: stock dams or wallows or creeks or river crossing what
19:38
Speaker 1: do those look like? Um, you know, in this in
19:42
Speaker 1: this part of Nebraska where we were at it would
19:44
Speaker 1: have been you know, cattle tanks and little ponds out
19:47
Speaker 1: in the pastures, you know, anything anything around, some cover,
19:51
Speaker 1: anything where you know, the white tails like good cover.
19:54
Speaker 1: And if we could have find something tucked away, so
19:56
Speaker 1: I had you know, my maps were just loaded with
19:59
Speaker 1: way points of water. But there was there was water
20:02
Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere, and it just was totally it was just
20:06
Speaker 1: a worthless pattern for us. It wasn't gonna happen. Were
20:09
Speaker 1: you seeing bachelor groups still together? Were these bucks traveling solo? Um?
20:13
Speaker 1: They were? They were bachelord up still. Um, you know,
20:16
Speaker 1: we still probably I'd say thirty or the bucks we
20:20
Speaker 1: saw were hard antlerd already of the rest. We were
20:24
Speaker 1: still in velvet, and they were they were pretty grouped up,
20:28
Speaker 1: but they were they were so concentrated in one part
20:30
Speaker 1: of that bean field that you know, it might have
20:33
Speaker 1: been kind of an illusion. They may have just been
20:35
Speaker 1: feeding close by each other. But we definitely did see
20:38
Speaker 1: some bucks that were still together. You just mentioned that
20:41
Speaker 1: they were focused out in one corner of the bean field.
20:44
Speaker 1: What was it about that area that got you just
20:47
Speaker 1: set up there and got you to kill these two bucks? Um?
20:50
Speaker 1: The corner of the bean field they were using most heavily.
20:53
Speaker 1: Heavily butted up to the best patch of timber there
20:58
Speaker 1: and which really isn't much the path ustard woods, but
21:01
Speaker 1: it's the best cover, and it's the least visible spot
21:04
Speaker 1: on the field. It kind of spilled down a little way,
21:06
Speaker 1: so the elevation drops away, and it was just one
21:09
Speaker 1: of those places where if you were glassing from the
21:12
Speaker 1: other side of the field, you'd sometimes see them pop
21:15
Speaker 1: out and go down in there, so you knew there
21:17
Speaker 1: was something going on better there in the one place
21:20
Speaker 1: that you couldn't really see, and I think I think
21:22
Speaker 1: that's why they picked it. How early in the evening
21:25
Speaker 1: were these books showing up um. Some of them were
21:28
Speaker 1: living in it. The buck that I killed was betted
21:31
Speaker 1: in there. When I hung my stand opening night, I
21:34
Speaker 1: watched him get up and feed fifty yards away after
21:37
Speaker 1: I got my stand hung, and then I watched another
21:39
Speaker 1: bucket I had seen the previous night get up um
21:42
Speaker 1: from inside the field. So they were you could see
21:45
Speaker 1: when you got above these real lush, tall soybeans, you
21:48
Speaker 1: could see all these little bomb crater looking at the
21:51
Speaker 1: holes in the soybeans. And I think it was just
21:53
Speaker 1: those bucks were spending so much time in there just
21:57
Speaker 1: betting stand up feed. The bucket I killed actually ended
22:00
Speaker 1: up bedding in front of me at thirty seven yards
22:02
Speaker 1: for an hour, and I could see him seating while
22:04
Speaker 1: he was laying down. Going forward to the next week
22:07
Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket ATVT is
22:09
Speaker 1: going to be a skill of one to ten in Nebraska? Oh,
22:13
Speaker 1: I would say with the coming forecast, I would say
22:16
Speaker 1: it's gonna stay around a seven or eight probably. I
22:19
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to change too drastically with all
22:22
Speaker 1: those deer going hard anlard yet. All right, Tony, well,
22:24
Speaker 1: congrats again, thanks for joining me. Always look forward to
22:27
Speaker 1: hearing these public land adventures that you're on and way
22:30
Speaker 1: to go on the awesome deer. Awesome, thanks buddy, alright
22:34
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next from South Carolina
22:37
Speaker 1: is Cameron Busty from cut Forward Outdoors. Now, Cameron in
22:40
Speaker 1: South Carolina, what would you say the bucket activity has
22:43
Speaker 1: been in the last week or so on a scale
22:44
Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd say about a six. The
22:48
Speaker 1: deer kind of getting into a little transition period between uh,
22:52
Speaker 1: they're they're coming out of their summer velvet and they're
22:56
Speaker 1: starting to get hard to him. There usually their velvet
22:59
Speaker 1: right hair around Labor Day weekend, so we're kind of
23:03
Speaker 1: in that transition period and we're trying to target in
23:06
Speaker 1: on bucks for the summer patterns of the fall pattern.
23:09
Speaker 1: So we're kind of one of these a little transitions
23:11
Speaker 1: right now. So what would you say the ratio is
23:13
Speaker 1: in South Carolina bucks that are still holding velvet to
23:16
Speaker 1: ones that are hard horned. I'd say it's about hard
23:22
Speaker 1: horn the bigger bucks right now, or they're they're a
23:26
Speaker 1: hard horn they're usually the first ones get rid of it.
23:31
Speaker 1: And so with these early season sits, when you're trying
23:34
Speaker 1: to catch these bucks going from those summer patterns to
23:36
Speaker 1: fall patterns, what are you focused on protecting? When I
23:40
Speaker 1: started August fifteen, so August fix, they still have their
23:45
Speaker 1: bilment on. They're pretty pretty consistent, so you can get
23:49
Speaker 1: on the food tourse early. UM your field agg fields
23:53
Speaker 1: we had We've had some success in big fresh cutovers
23:57
Speaker 1: um a lot of regrowth out there, especially in the morning,
24:00
Speaker 1: and those big cutovers seemed to play the big cutovers
24:02
Speaker 1: off the egg fields and staging aary for them to
24:04
Speaker 1: come back to bed. They'll hang out there and mill
24:06
Speaker 1: out there and after her in the morning, they're coming
24:08
Speaker 1: from food back to bed. What we did augustly the
24:11
Speaker 1: te um August eight tenths, you're killed the monster, I
24:16
Speaker 1: mean heavy warned eight pointer Um in a cutover just
24:21
Speaker 1: like that in the morning. Um. But right now we're
24:23
Speaker 1: gonna start getting on some transition lines. UM. Food still primary,
24:30
Speaker 1: especially in the afternoons, because they're still kind of comfortable.
24:32
Speaker 1: They're not really getting too much pressure right now. We're
24:35
Speaker 1: trying to stay out and not really bumping too hard
24:38
Speaker 1: on the food. You mentioned that some of those caught
24:41
Speaker 1: areas kind of function as staging areas in the mornings.
24:44
Speaker 1: Does that mean that you've been doing some morning setups
24:46
Speaker 1: this early in the season. Yes, actually we have. Actually
24:50
Speaker 1: those have been most of our setups. Um. The farm
24:53
Speaker 1: we hunt, it doesn't have egg The egg field is
24:56
Speaker 1: not on the property. It's about um half mile the road.
25:00
Speaker 1: So the deer are going to the hagfield tonight, but
25:04
Speaker 1: we can't haunt the agg field. So we're catching them
25:07
Speaker 1: coming back and they're using our cut over. It's a
25:11
Speaker 1: two year old cut over. They cut it last year
25:13
Speaker 1: and it's got vegetation that's probably nick highing and if
25:17
Speaker 1: you get up on the edge of it and get
25:18
Speaker 1: get high enough, and they're using that. I mean, we've
25:23
Speaker 1: had an agatack days down here, so we're catching them
25:27
Speaker 1: coming back to bed up the Creek games now coming
25:31
Speaker 1: up here at the end of the week. It seems
25:33
Speaker 1: like Hurricane Dorian maybe making contact with South Carolina. Do
25:37
Speaker 1: you ever notice in the past that hurricanes affect the
25:40
Speaker 1: deer movement before after hurricane and what does that look like?
25:44
Speaker 1: Dorian is gonna be a little farther to our east
25:48
Speaker 1: and more towards the coast. Were actually towards the center
25:50
Speaker 1: of the state. But we've had hurries in the post
25:53
Speaker 1: come come through and we've actually noticed buck moving right
25:59
Speaker 1: before the storm. Or two years ago, we killed a
26:02
Speaker 1: really really big eight pointer the day before hurricane came
26:06
Speaker 1: and he learned he was up in October moving at
26:10
Speaker 1: five o'clock in the afternoon. I mean, just something you
26:13
Speaker 1: don't see, very rare, and there's a buck. We only
26:15
Speaker 1: had a couple of pictures last year one of our
26:18
Speaker 1: members because in North Carolina, you know, they had that
26:21
Speaker 1: major storm I forget what the name of it was.
26:23
Speaker 1: They came through last year. And he was hunting hadn't
26:27
Speaker 1: had one huge I mean probably a hundred and sixty
26:30
Speaker 1: five inch in North Carolina out in the bean fields
26:33
Speaker 1: right in the middle of afternoon. Even so, I feel
26:35
Speaker 1: like they know the storm is coming and it puts
26:39
Speaker 1: up because they know the next days are going to
26:41
Speaker 1: be bad going forward. Then in the sex week or so,
26:43
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to
26:45
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in South Carolina?
26:48
Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna pick up and probably be
26:51
Speaker 1: about seven and I have eight before the storm. During
26:54
Speaker 1: the storm, it could drop back to a three or four,
26:57
Speaker 1: and then right after it should should get back to
27:00
Speaker 1: about normal, so about five or six. I mean, it
27:04
Speaker 1: could vary through out the week with the storm coming there. Alright, Cameron, well,
27:07
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me and good luck to you and
27:08
Speaker 1: everyone else from Cut four Outdoors. Thank you alright and
27:13
Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Dylan Lens out
27:16
Speaker 1: of North Dakota from Breaking Point TV. Dylan, on a
27:19
Speaker 1: scale of one to tendon, what would you say the
27:21
Speaker 1: buck activity has been lately? I would say it's about
27:23
Speaker 1: a six right now. Um, we had some warm weather
27:27
Speaker 1: while we were out hunting through the opener of this
27:29
Speaker 1: past weekend and started off strong with some high pressure.
27:33
Speaker 1: We had some good buck movement and then it really
27:34
Speaker 1: tailed off. Is that weather stabilized and uh, I didn't
27:38
Speaker 1: have much daylight activity for bucks at once. That kind
27:42
Speaker 1: of settled out. Someone in your group did have success though.
27:46
Speaker 1: On was it opening night there in North Dakota? Opening night?
27:49
Speaker 1: Are buddy and in script checked or JP as we
27:53
Speaker 1: call him, uh took out an awesome velvet stuck on
27:57
Speaker 1: opening night UM with quite a bit of daylight left,
28:01
Speaker 1: so he was he was pretty fortunate to be in
28:02
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time out there, and
28:04
Speaker 1: I believe does this first of velvet white scales. So
28:06
Speaker 1: it was a pretty awesome night. And what do those
28:09
Speaker 1: setups look like that you guys were using. Was it
28:11
Speaker 1: mostly field edgies. Yeah, it's almost all feel edges that
28:14
Speaker 1: were hunting out there on North Dakota's a lot of
28:16
Speaker 1: big marshes um where you can't really get in and
28:20
Speaker 1: get on it. Didn't you know, access point to you know,
28:23
Speaker 1: set up an ambush. So he kind of gotta pick
28:25
Speaker 1: tree rows or small wood lots where we think we
28:28
Speaker 1: can get the beer. Um while they're headed to food,
28:31
Speaker 1: you know, leaving the big marshes and kind of in
28:34
Speaker 1: a vulnerable spot. Tell me more about that buck that
28:37
Speaker 1: your buddy killed. How early was that deer out moving?
28:39
Speaker 1: Was he traveling with others? So he was actually coming
28:42
Speaker 1: behind two doughs, Um, it was kind of a different situation.
28:45
Speaker 1: He had crossed the road and a car had come
28:48
Speaker 1: past right about when they crossed the road, so kind
28:51
Speaker 1: of hurried that buck up, um coming towards the tree
28:54
Speaker 1: line that he was sitting on, and he basically followed
28:57
Speaker 1: the dosh down the trail and straight as to stand.
29:00
Speaker 1: So it just worked out perfect. That was I believe
29:04
Speaker 1: with another hour hour and a half of daylight left.
29:06
Speaker 1: So it's really fortunate to have that movement that early.
29:09
Speaker 1: You guys had a really short window there in North Dakota,
29:12
Speaker 1: because I know a few years took off and are
29:14
Speaker 1: now haunting Muley's when the window is that tight. Are
29:18
Speaker 1: you hunting any mornings early in the season like this?
29:21
Speaker 1: We truly don't hunt mornings in North Dakota just because
29:25
Speaker 1: of our stand setups. Um, you know, we went in there,
29:28
Speaker 1: we'd definitely be pushing dear off for food and we
29:32
Speaker 1: aren't hunting betting areas, because like I said, you know,
29:34
Speaker 1: they're betting out in the marches and that sort of thing.
29:36
Speaker 1: So if we're going in the morning, we pretty much
29:38
Speaker 1: blow the whole sit right off the bat. So kind
29:41
Speaker 1: of getting out there where we think that deer headed to,
29:44
Speaker 1: are in between where they're headed to and their betting
29:47
Speaker 1: has worked out best for us. That's always happening in
29:49
Speaker 1: the keeping. What was the ratio of velvet bucks to
29:52
Speaker 1: hard worn bucks there in North Dakota while we were
29:55
Speaker 1: out there this patch weekend, it was almost all still velvet.
29:59
Speaker 1: We had one buck that was full hearted horns, had
30:02
Speaker 1: some awesome horners of him actually uh right before he
30:06
Speaker 1: lost his velvet and then he must have you know,
30:08
Speaker 1: went and shredded it right nearby. And that was actually
30:10
Speaker 1: in August, so that was pretty early. Um, but all
30:14
Speaker 1: the other year that we had on camera or saw
30:17
Speaker 1: while we were in the stand, we're still holding velvet.
30:20
Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool. Had those opportunities while we
30:22
Speaker 1: were there on those velvet buckets. Are you guys worried
30:25
Speaker 1: about water sources all this time of year? Is that
30:27
Speaker 1: something that you focus on just like you would these
30:29
Speaker 1: food sources. How were we hunt in North Dakota. It's
30:32
Speaker 1: so wet anyway, with all the marshes that first wet
30:36
Speaker 1: of the years it's been out there, we haven't noticed
30:38
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot of difference in you know,
30:40
Speaker 1: their activity um pertaining to water. So I don't know,
30:45
Speaker 1: you know, if you were in a drier area, maybe
30:47
Speaker 1: it's be a little bit different because of how much
30:49
Speaker 1: water is available to him this year. But we just
30:51
Speaker 1: didn't notice that kind of you know change. I know,
30:54
Speaker 1: you guys are potentially hitted back to North Dakota like
30:57
Speaker 1: next week or so, how will your actors have changed
31:01
Speaker 1: from just a few days ago to about seven days
31:03
Speaker 1: from now. During the early season, we pretty much kind
31:06
Speaker 1: of employed the same tactics and you know, really just
31:09
Speaker 1: checking the cameras and trying to stay out of air
31:11
Speaker 1: as much as possible, keeping them fresh, sneaking in during
31:15
Speaker 1: broad daylight middle of the day when we know we
31:17
Speaker 1: can get in there those deer in the marshes, they're
31:19
Speaker 1: gonna see yea, We go in check the camera see
31:21
Speaker 1: if they were in that area either you know, before
31:24
Speaker 1: dark the night before or maybe move through on their
31:27
Speaker 1: way back into bed in the morning. And then we
31:29
Speaker 1: just try and pick that spot and play the wind
31:32
Speaker 1: and hope that they're going to make that mistake again
31:34
Speaker 1: or show up during daylight. Going forward. Then in the
31:36
Speaker 1: six week or so, what do you think that bucket
31:38
Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one
31:40
Speaker 1: to ten in North Dakota. I would say it's still
31:43
Speaker 1: going to be that six maybe seven area. It's really
31:46
Speaker 1: gonna depend on the weather. I haven't looked at the
31:48
Speaker 1: expended forecast, but you know, if we get a little
31:51
Speaker 1: bit of cool front um and some higher pressure, I
31:54
Speaker 1: think maybe those bucks will get on their feet a
31:56
Speaker 1: little earlier. Our Dylan, thanks for joining me, good luck
31:58
Speaker 1: on the rest of your traveling haunts and everyone else
32:00
Speaker 1: from the Breaking Point TV. Thanks a lot you guys.
32:03
Speaker 1: Good must as well, and that concludes this week's episode
32:07
Speaker 1: of Wired Haunts rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Jacob, Tony Cameron,
32:12
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