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- Lucas: So Luna, we've covered a lot of ground in this series — battles, clearances, even a lost queen. But there's one object that ties together so many of those stories, and it's been at the centre of Scottish identity for centuries: the Stone of Destiny. Luna: The coronation stone, right? The one that was under the coronation chair in Westminster Abbey? Lucas: Exactly. Also called the Stone of Scone, or in Gaelic, 'Lia Fáil' — the 'Stone of Destiny'. It's a simple block of sandstone, but for centuries it was the seat where Scottish kings were crowned. Legend says it was originally Jacob's pillow in the Bible, brought to Ireland by the prophet Jeremiah, and then somehow ended up in Scotland. But the historical trail is a bit more grounded. Luna: I've heard it was brought by the Scots from Ireland, when they settled in Dalriada. Lucas: That's the traditional story. The Scots — a Gaelic people from Ireland — supposedly carried it with them when they founded the kingdom of Dalriada in what's now Argyll. It then ended up at Scone, near Perth, where it became the coronation stone of the Kings of Scots. The first definite record is of Kenneth MacAlpin, the famous king who united the Scots and Picts in the 9th century — tradition says he was crowned on the Stone at Scone in 843. Lucas: Now, the Stone is intimately tied to Scottish sovereignty. Being crowned on it was the ultimate symbol of a legitimate king. When Edward I of England invaded Scotland in 1296, during the Wars of Independence, he knew exactly what to target. He seized the Stone from Scone Abbey and had it taken to London. Luna: He wanted to break the symbol of Scottish kingship. Lucas: Precisely. Edward had the Stone placed under the coronation chair in Westminster Abbey, where it would remain for over 700 years. He wanted every future English king — and eventually British king — to be crowned sitting on top of the Stone of Destiny, as a symbol of England's dominion over Scotland. It was a powerful piece of political theatre. Luna: But the Scots never really accepted that, did they? There were attempts to get it back. Lucas: There were petitions, treaties — the Treaty of Edinburgh-Northampton in 1328, after the Declaration of Arbroath, actually included a provision that the Stone should be returned. But Edward III of England conveniently 'forgot' to honour that. And so it stayed in Westminster, a constant reminder of Scotland's subjugation. Lucas: Now here's where it gets really interesting. In 1950, four Scottish students decided they'd had enough. They planned a daring heist to steal the Stone from Westminster Abbey and bring it back to Scotland. Luna: I've heard of this — the Glasgow students, right? Lucas: Yes. Ian Hamilton, Kay Matheson, Gavin Vernon, and Alan Stuart. On Christmas Eve 1950, they broke into Westminster Abbey — through a small door that had been left unlocked — and hauled the 152-kilogram stone out. They actually dropped it and it broke in two! But they managed to get it into a car and drive it up to Scotland. Luna: They broke the Stone of Destiny? That's incredible. Lucas: They did. But they had it repaired by a stonemason in Glasgow before hiding it. For months, the Stone was passed around safe houses across Scotland. The police conducted a massive manhunt. Eventually, the students left the Stone at Arbroath Abbey — symbolically, the same abbey where the Declaration of Arbroath was signed — and alerted the authorities. It was taken back to Westminster, but the heist had made its point. Lucas: By that time, there was also a growing question: was the stone the students stole actually the real one? There's a persistent theory that medieval monks at Scone, fearing Edward's invasion, hid the true Stone and gave him a fake — a block of local sandstone. Luna: So the one in Westminster might have been a replica all along? Lucas: It's possible. Some historians point out that the Stone in Westminster is a very ordinary piece of sandstone, with no carvings or marks that would link it to ancient Scottish coronations. There's a story that the real Stone was hidden in a well at Dunsinnan, near Scone, or even taken to Ireland by Robert the Bruce. But none of that is proven. What we do know is that in 1996, the British government decided to return the Stone to Scotland. It was brought to Edinburgh Castle, where it's now displayed alongside the Crown Jewels. Luna: And it was used at the coronation of King Charles III, wasn't it? It was taken back to London for that. Lucas: Yes, in 2023, the Stone was temporarily returned to Westminster Abbey for Charles's coronation. It's been agreed that it will be brought down for future coronations, but otherwise it stays in Scotland. So the Stone of Destiny, whatever its true origin, remains a powerful symbol — not just of Scotland's past, but of its ongoing relationship with the rest of the UK. Lucas: You know, speaking of that ongoing relationship, I think this is a good moment to mention something about how we approach these stories. We deliberately keep Fexingo History free from advertisements — no sponsors, no commercial breaks. We do that because we want these conversations to feel like a direct, uninterrupted space for exploring history. If you value that, and you'd like to support the show, you can find a link to buy us a coffee at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, but every little bit helps keep this ad-free. Luna: Yeah, it's nice that we can just talk without any ads. It keeps the focus on the story. Lucas: Exactly. So back to the Stone — there's another layer to the story. The Stone's authenticity is still debated. In 2008, a group called the 'Stone of Destiny Research Group' claimed that the stone at Edinburgh Castle is not the original. They said the real one is at Scone Palace, hidden inside the grounds. But that's been disputed too. What's fascinating is that the Stone has become a blank canvas for myth-making. Every generation projects its own hopes onto it. Luna: So the truth might never be known. But the symbol is what matters. Lucas: Right. The Stone of Destiny is a perfect example of how objects can carry meaning far beyond their physical form. Whether it's Jacob's pillow, a piece of Irish sandstone, or a medieval fake, it has been at the heart of Scotland's story for over a thousand years. And that story continues to evolve. Luna: It makes you wonder what future generations will make of it. Lucas: Perhaps they'll add another chapter. But for now, the Stone sits in Edinburgh Castle, a quiet monument to a nation's enduring identity.