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The Rich vs Poor Mindset That Secretly Holds You Back | Gianluca Vacchi · Motivation Mindset Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What I always used to say is that people that
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  Speaker 1: don't laugh are not serious people. You know, yes, because
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  Speaker 1: to be serious you need to laugh.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Those people that are always serious are fake serious, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because they're always acting.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I think.
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  Speaker 1: It's not because you do something hilarious or comic or dancing,
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  Speaker 1: or that you cannot do serious stuff.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of like being rich, I'm only interested in
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  Speaker 2: being rich in the.
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  Speaker 1: Moment's bank account, you know, once they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: the bank account of moments. I want to be in
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  Speaker 1: the fortune ranking until for the rest I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: So money for me is not was a target when
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty, but as soon as I started to
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  Speaker 1: do it, I understood that I needed the money that
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  Speaker 1: was enough for the quality of my life and of
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  Speaker 1: my friends. You need like to have like electricity in
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  Speaker 1: your blog, you know, So how can you have it
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  Speaker 1: if you always have the same routine, always have the
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  Speaker 1: same routine. Imagine what is for me going in front
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  Speaker 1: of people performing some music. They are twenty years old,
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  Speaker 1: so this is something that gives me a lot of satisfaction.
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  Speaker 1: And then what I always say to my friends, imagine
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  Speaker 1: how interesting is passing from a meeting room with lawyers
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  Speaker 1: and bankers to a meeting with a producer with a singer.
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  Speaker 2: Now it happens to me to deal with import very
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  Speaker 2: important singers.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is that the contemporary society lives without
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  Speaker 1: the dream, you know, because they're all concentrated about, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I need to do this, I need to do this,
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  Speaker 1: I need to do this, which is normal because we
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with what we need. But if I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have dreamed in my life, I would never be
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  Speaker 1: what I am.
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  Speaker 2: Today, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So what I'm doing is pushing people to dream. Life
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  Speaker 1: is motivation. Life is motivation. I think that people are
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  Speaker 1: not believing in themselves anymore, but because the need is
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  Speaker 1: overpassing the desire. The problem of this era, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not I mean, it's really a problem, is that people
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  Speaker 1: are more focused on what they need to do to
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  Speaker 1: survive and less to what they have to dream about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, which is something that people can tell me, Oh, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's easy for you, Yes it's easy now, it's easy, yes,
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  Speaker 1: But it was not easy before because I wasn't born
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  Speaker 1: like I was like I am today, and I risked
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  Speaker 1: what I had so many times. You know, my life
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  Speaker 1: change it really around forty four, forty five years old,
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  Speaker 1: because when I was thirty, thirty five, thirty, I was saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm young, and I was not thinking about the projection
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  Speaker 1: of my life, you know. When I was forty five
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  Speaker 1: and I started to say, time is passing, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then I realized that being an entrepreneur, the most
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  Speaker 1: important loan we receive is life. You know that, for
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  Speaker 1: sure we have to give it back, but just we
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  Speaker 1: don't know when. So that's the loan of the life,
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  Speaker 1: is not what we receive from banks.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's. Yes, that is a loan where.
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  Speaker 1: You have to give it back for sure, But the
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  Speaker 1: real loan of your of your life, is your life.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I am a guest in my life, not owner of
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  Speaker 1: my life, you know. So, and this is the philosophy
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  Speaker 1: that I apply to everything.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So this house, yes is mine? What does what does
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  Speaker 1: it mean in is mind? How can I own something
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  Speaker 1: when I don't own my life? Because my life is
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  Speaker 1: a it's a borrow, you know, So he's a mortgage,
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  Speaker 1: is I don't know?
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So I started to say that and I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to run. Now it's the
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  Speaker 1: moment if I want to run another second life, it's
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  Speaker 1: now the moment I want to do stuff that are
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  Speaker 1: totally different. I have to tell you, because I'm very sincere.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been attracted by the idea of being very popular,
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  Speaker 1: but because I thought that I had something to share
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  Speaker 1: with the others, like vibes, like you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't not pretending to be a role model, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but because I leave the other people free to judge
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  Speaker 1: what they want to think about me. If they want
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  Speaker 1: to seemil as a role model, they can do. In Italy,
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  Speaker 1: I have been criticized a lot, a lot. Now everybody's saying, oh, what,
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  Speaker 1: she's a genius, what he saw the direction? But you know,
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  Speaker 1: but first, any time I did something strange, even under
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  Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial point of view I've been, I was judged,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, how was he always dies something in
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  Speaker 1: the business?
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  Speaker 2: Of course?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because because I always watched things not like this,
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  Speaker 1: but like this, if I could get I always in
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  Speaker 1: my life what I did, and this is the common
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  Speaker 1: thing I did in my first and in my second life,
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  Speaker 1: is watching things not under the traditional or the usual
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  Speaker 1: angle or the usual point of view.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because I always.
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  Speaker 1: Thought that if you see things like this, you can
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  Speaker 1: even see it, like see them like this, because there's
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  Speaker 1: always a different way.
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  Speaker 2: At what point did you say at forty five, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to stop working that hard and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: go enjoy my life.
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  Speaker 1: Now when I was forty five, starting from the point
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  Speaker 1: of view that I'm not interested about accumulating money.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to live into a routine.
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  Speaker 1: Then, so I always delegated in my business activity. So
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  Speaker 1: I had time, I had free time, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about I was performing a company. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I didn't want to talk about it. Like every
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  Speaker 1: day I was performing a company. I was evolving this sector.
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  Speaker 1: This manager wants to go, so we have to find
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  Speaker 1: another one. No, no, I was not interested anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: I always was like attracted by those people who had
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  Speaker 1: two lives.
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  Speaker 2: There was an entrepreneur in France.
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  Speaker 1: It was the owner of Adidas and a certain point
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  Speaker 1: he had some problems and his wish then he became
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  Speaker 1: an actor.
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  Speaker 2: His name was Bernard A. Pie And I was.
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  Speaker 1: Always attracted by people that had the courage to change
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  Speaker 1: their because it's very I mean, having a successful life.
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  Speaker 2: Is super difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, having too satisfaction life is even almost impossible. And
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  Speaker 1: I said to myself, if I can have two lives,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be so happy.
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  Speaker 2: If I was in school with you, we're in tenth grade,
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  Speaker 2: we're in high school. Who was John Lucabaki in school?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, And it's very weird to say I
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  Speaker 1: was a very shy guy. I was a super shy guy.
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  Speaker 1: I was very shy because I used to be a skier.
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  Speaker 1: I was a professional skier until eighteen years old. I
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  Speaker 1: used to live like in the mountains, and my life
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  Speaker 1: was porn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I went to the University of Bologna. I finished when
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  Speaker 1: I was like twenty almost twenty five, and I started
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  Speaker 1: immediately like trying to restructure what were the interests of
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  Speaker 1: the what was the worth of my family, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because we had the interest in different sectors, and I
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  Speaker 1: tried to understand which could be the sectors that would
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  Speaker 1: have had most growth potential, you know. And I started
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  Speaker 1: to buy the shares of some of my cousins which
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  Speaker 1: were not interested in the family company. When I was
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, I had a big debt and then I
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  Speaker 1: did ten years in which I was not even going
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  Speaker 1: on holiday. Yes, from twenty five to thirty five, I
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  Speaker 1: was really focused on paying my dads and make the
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  Speaker 1: company growing, like you know, for ten years, I was
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  Speaker 1: so concentrated and I I did and I did my
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  Speaker 1: first money. Then immediately I started to do the house
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  Speaker 1: of my life because there are people that are much
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  Speaker 1: richer than I am, much richer. I'm very grateful to
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  Speaker 1: life because it gave me the chance to have two lives.
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  Speaker 1: You know, until forty five years old, I was like
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  Speaker 1: an active entrepreneur. Even today, I'm an entrepreneur because you know,
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  Speaker 1: once you manage the risk of being a shareholder in
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  Speaker 1: industrial companies, even if they are managed by other persons,
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  Speaker 1: you still are an entrepreneur because the being or not
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  Speaker 1: entrepreneur is determined by the fact that you are running.
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  Speaker 2: The risk of the company in which you were involved.
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  Speaker 1: But then from forty five, I started to like be
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  Speaker 1: not so much curious about financial matters or you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so I decided to watch I was watching like
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  Speaker 1: how the conventions of dialogue, of the way of dialogue
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  Speaker 1: between young people was reaching and because I was like
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  Speaker 1: going to dinner with younger people, and I was watching
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  Speaker 1: that any of the of the person at the dinner
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  Speaker 1: was not talking with the person beside or in front,
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  Speaker 1: but just talking with the smartphone. And so I said
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  Speaker 1: to myself, I'm not old enough not to be interested
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  Speaker 1: in how the way of communication of communication and changing,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so I started to I started to
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  Speaker 1: say that if I would have shown my life as
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  Speaker 1: it was, because my life was like this even when
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  Speaker 1: I was like doing serious stuff, entrepreneurial stuff, and I
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  Speaker 1: was always laughing, smiling and joking and taking myself not
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  Speaker 1: too serious even when I was doing serious stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: I said, I can become a global entertainer of the
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  Speaker 1: new platform.