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IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Hey twenty nine on a Thursday Friday Eve. I love
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  Speaker 1: this time to day we can talk with iHeart Media
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  Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Rattler. He is nationwide. He is the
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  Speaker 1: sole aviation expert for the entire iHeartMedia Corporation, hundreds of stations,
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  Speaker 1: and we are lucky enough to get him for a
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  Speaker 1: few segments every Thursday here in the fifty five Casey
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  Speaker 1: Morning Shore. Welcome back, my friend. Happy Thursday in advance
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  Speaker 1: early Happy Easter to you, my brother.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great holiday, a lot to be
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  Speaker 2: thankful for, and the same to you.
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  Speaker 1: Is a lot to be thankful for. And that's one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I love being friends with you on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook over because you always have something really positive to
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  Speaker 1: say in your posts. You're not screaming and yelling at everybody,
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  Speaker 1: You're not stirring the pot of descent. You're just making
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  Speaker 1: great observations exactly like that. Life's filled with miracles. Pay
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  Speaker 1: attention to them, enjoy them while you got them, and
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the benefits and the gift of life that we
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  Speaker 1: have here. Let me ask you, this aviation expert. Rockets
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  Speaker 1: are part of aviation. What did you think of the
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  Speaker 1: Artemist two lift off. Did you watch it all?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Well, it planned on it and then Cherry and
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  Speaker 2: I went out to dinner, so it's kind of watching
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  Speaker 2: it on my phone and just throw I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: was you know, it's historic. And you know, for all
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  Speaker 2: all of the former astronauts that I was able to
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  Speaker 2: be around and talk to and listen to, they were
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  Speaker 2: all wanting their work to be you know, built on.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted the exploration, the science, the discovery to continue.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just thrilled that it is. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: the idea that we've got this ongoing, it's just it
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  Speaker 2: gives the younger generation a taste of what I had. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: you know back in the sixties and early seventies when
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  Speaker 2: you had people going to the Moon and except then
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  Speaker 2: it was the first time ever. And you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's thrilling. I just love it. And you know, as
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  Speaker 2: we gear towards getting back to the Moon and based
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  Speaker 2: on the Moon perhaps and then headed for Mars and
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  Speaker 2: points beyond, I just think that that's just incredible. I
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  Speaker 2: love it.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And you know, I obviously as a very
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  Speaker 1: young person, was with the Apollo program. Of course, I
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  Speaker 1: had all the toys, the lunar Rovere toy in the
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  Speaker 1: models of the various stages of the Apollo aircraft or
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  Speaker 1: the Hoolo spacecraft. But more of a Lindberg moment with
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  Speaker 1: that one, because obviously the first time set of the moon.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, space travel and landing and men of
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  Speaker 1: the Moon, this seems to be quite different because we're
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  Speaker 1: kind of used to travel this way, we're used to
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  Speaker 1: seeing rockets go up. And I was really blown away
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  Speaker 1: by when they were talking about the astronauts on this
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  Speaker 1: this this flight, how much experience they have actually going
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  Speaker 1: in and out of orbit already. These people are not
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  Speaker 1: new to the whole flying into outer space rodeo.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no. But I like some of the observations
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  Speaker 2: of the older pilots that are thinking, gosh, look at
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  Speaker 2: all the room they've got in their capital versus what
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  Speaker 2: we went up in so and I think that's worth
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  Speaker 2: noting as well. But no, these are incredibly intelligent men
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  Speaker 2: and women that yeah, they know what they're doing and
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  Speaker 2: it's and they've got to be that way for any
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  Speaker 2: of the unknowns that happened, because that's that's what a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the astronauts wh've been to space, saye yes,
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  Speaker 2: enjoy it, but you're always preparing yourself for the unwed,
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  Speaker 2: for something that might happen, that you might have to
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  Speaker 2: work the problem. And so it's going to be something
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  Speaker 2: where they're going to be on edge until they get
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  Speaker 2: there and back, always preparing for what might happen and
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  Speaker 2: how they can respond to it. And they're prepared, they're
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  Speaker 2: well trained, and you've got a great ground team and
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  Speaker 2: so far everything's working as it should. So it's exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff, a little tense for me. I remember when the
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  Speaker 1: Challenger blew up. So I'm sitting there on the edge
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  Speaker 1: of my seat with this nervous feeling in the back
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  Speaker 1: of my head, like, oh my God, like any second
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  Speaker 1: we could be witnesses to an absolute epic disaster. And
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  Speaker 1: I was prayerful and thankful that that obviously did not
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  Speaker 1: happen yesterday. So we wish them all the best on
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  Speaker 1: the bounds of the journey. And it's phase three, four
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  Speaker 1: and then ultimately five is going to be building a
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  Speaker 1: space on the Moon. Apparently Jay Ratlis love it. Back
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  Speaker 1: to airplanes, Delta Airlines teaming up with Amazon, why.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to increase the Wi Fi power on board
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  Speaker 2: flights and they up to five times. In fact, they're saying,
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  Speaker 2: Delta on these planes are going to be retrofitted as
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty eight that if you want, you can
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  Speaker 2: you know, attend a zoom call during your flight. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: they're saying that it's going to be that good, but
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to not open the door for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of conversations and those kinds of things that are ongoing,
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  Speaker 2: because that's something that's never really set well with consumers
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  Speaker 2: when they've asked about, hey, what do you think about
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  Speaker 2: the possibility of using your phone or some sort of
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  Speaker 2: communication device on a plane. I mean almost overwhelmingly most
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  Speaker 2: people are saying no. But the idea that you could
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  Speaker 2: listen into a conference call or you know, somehow respond
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  Speaker 2: and actually work in a meeting as you fly is
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  Speaker 2: something that Delta says, Hey, this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: you know, the next step for us, and it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be great for our consumers. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of people that would be the case
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  Speaker 2: because if you can get work done on the flight
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  Speaker 2: and it's not got a meeting two or three that
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to be at it, so can get
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  Speaker 2: other things done I can see that being a very
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  Speaker 2: post for benefit and Delta wants to put that in
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  Speaker 2: the hands of their consumers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as maybe me being sitting next to you on
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  Speaker 1: that future flight, we're on a zoom call just where
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  Speaker 1: your damn headsets so the whole airplane doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. I think that that also given. And I think
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  Speaker 2: more and more airlines are going to be pushing for
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  Speaker 2: that and say, look in flight attendant's good lord. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the list of things they have to do and police
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  Speaker 2: just continues to grow. But that's one of the other things.
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  Speaker 2: And airlines are making it clear, you know, we put
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  Speaker 2: up with this and not really responded to it, but
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  Speaker 2: we're going to now so you know, just behave well.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess this proves all the people right who
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  Speaker 1: didn't believe that their cell phone and being hooked up
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  Speaker 1: the WiFi was going to crash the airplane remember those days, well.
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  Speaker 2: I do. In fact, I had a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: say there's nothing to it. But I was on a
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  Speaker 2: Northwest flight going into Detroit when one of the avionics
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  Speaker 2: panels went out. It just recycled, and the captain called
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  Speaker 2: for the lead flight attends and somebody just turned on
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  Speaker 2: the phone in first class, it turned off.
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  Speaker 1: I guess they resolved that all that.
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  Speaker 2: I thought there must be something to this now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: right now, with a lot of the modern things we
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  Speaker 2: have now, Brian, I think that's much less of a concern.
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  Speaker 2: And look, we've already had flights with people using their
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  Speaker 2: phones on planes and things and and nothing happened. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that the likelihood is minimal. But look, if
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  Speaker 2: it's a one and a hundred chance that my phone
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  Speaker 2: could mess anything up, I prefer not to take that chance.
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  Speaker 1: Fair Enough, we'll bring Jay Rtliffe back to talk about
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  Speaker 1: a couple of developments in the air Canada issue after
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  Speaker 1: that crash on the runway. That a whole lot more
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  Speaker 1: with I heart media aviation expert Jay Ratlifts stick around
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  Speaker 1: fifty five. Have you ever been in a cockpit before?
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  Speaker 1: Ay thirty nine? If you about fair ced talk station
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  Speaker 1: Jay Rattlift, I heeart media aviation expert going into the
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  Speaker 1: aviation related issues today as we do every Thursday. Being
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  Speaker 1: at A thirty moving over to Eric Canada. I saw
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  Speaker 1: this and I literally laughed when it was just the
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  Speaker 1: headline I saw, but it summed it up quite nicely.
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  Speaker 1: President of Eric Canna had has to retire carently getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of heat because he doesn't speak French. Is
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  Speaker 1: that's a problem if you're a Canadian. You got those
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  Speaker 1: folks in Montreal that don't understand a word you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Well, especially when you're offering condolences for the crew members
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  Speaker 2: that were lost in the crash. And that was what
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  Speaker 2: really didn't set well with a lot of Canadians is saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: not even in our native language can you offer condolences.
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  Speaker 2: It was a speech in English, and they he's announced
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be retiring. The the the pr people
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  Speaker 2: are saying no, no, no, no, no no, it was just his
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  Speaker 2: time had nothing to do with that. And then some
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  Speaker 2: of the more astute journalists said, Okay, you're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be replaced. Will the successor be able
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  Speaker 2: to speak? Oh, that'll be That'll be a requirement. So
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  Speaker 2: you know there's something there about about this because it
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  Speaker 2: was just embarrassing and it was, but look, he was
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  Speaker 2: brought there because he knows what he's doing. Yeah, eat
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  Speaker 2: an airline and he's good at what he does. But
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  Speaker 2: when you get behind this kind of a curve. It's
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  Speaker 2: tough to recover from. And that's one of one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that took place. And yeah, you would have
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  Speaker 2: thought that that would have been a priority if you
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  Speaker 2: took over, but apparently not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was after the fact created priority. Hey wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, that guy didn't speak French. That's rather snobbish,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it. I don't speak a four leg. I tried
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  Speaker 1: to learn a foreign language, Jay, but I failed miserably
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  Speaker 1: a German in high school. In college, so here I am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I learned that some of the easier classes
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  Speaker 2: they said to take you still had to work at
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't. I had a surprisingly, you know, average
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  Speaker 2: scholastic career. That's why I tell people it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was very very average.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's aokay. You obviously know what you're doing
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  Speaker 1: in your background has served you well in life. Jay.
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  Speaker 1: That's all that really matters.
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  Speaker 2: Is around six I graduated sixty second in my class
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  Speaker 2: and my dad said, least more we're behind you than
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  Speaker 2: in front of you. And that was about the only
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  Speaker 2: condolence I got.
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  Speaker 1: There, you go, that's all right. We have Africa. The
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  Speaker 1: control tower involved in this air Canada craft apparently violated procedures,
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  Speaker 1: And because a lot of us out here in the
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  Speaker 1: straight world don't understand aviation or issues like this, why
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  Speaker 1: in the hell was a fire truck allowed to go
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  Speaker 1: over the runway in the first place? The plane was
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  Speaker 1: coming in but parallel this conflicting information going back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: So what was violated in terms of procedures.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that National Transportation Safety Board is
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  Speaker 2: looking at is was the supervisor on duty in the
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  Speaker 2: tower doing dual operations working with both ground equipment and aircraft,
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  Speaker 2: because that's a violation of the established protocol. So what
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to do and they're trying to determine and
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  Speaker 2: trying to verify, is did this take place, and if so,
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  Speaker 2: to what extent? And that it gets just part of
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  Speaker 2: the investigations one of the things that they're looking at,
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  Speaker 2: because they're far from the final report that'll take a
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  Speaker 2: year after the crash to really come out with, But
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  Speaker 2: what they're saying is this is something that we're looking
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  Speaker 2: into and exactly who is in the tower, what the
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  Speaker 2: responsibilities were, and other things. The National Transportation Safety Board
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  Speaker 2: has in the past indicated how certain jobs need to
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  Speaker 2: be singularly focused and not have one person responsible for
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  Speaker 2: too many things. But the NTSB can only make recommendations.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the DC crash that happened a January a
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  Speaker 2: year ago, where we had the collision with the helicopter
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  Speaker 2: in the American Airlines Regional jet. When the final report
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  Speaker 2: came out from the NTSB here recently, they gave fifty
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  Speaker 2: different recommendations based on their findings from that that we
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  Speaker 2: could apply in procedures and policy moving forward that would
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  Speaker 2: make commercial aviation safer. Now the FAA probably won't implement
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  Speaker 2: five of those, but at least the NTSB is always
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  Speaker 2: trying to say, what can we do to make aviation safer?
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  Speaker 2: How can we learn from this? And they're going to
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  Speaker 2: do the same thing with the Air Canada crash. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to come out and say, look, it's not a
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  Speaker 2: singular cause here. It's not a matter of simply an
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  Speaker 2: air traffic controller making a mistake. It's probably going to
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  Speaker 2: be multiple contributing causes as most accidents are, that led
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  Speaker 2: to this disaster. And that's what we're going to find out.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, as the investigation continues, we'll see where
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  Speaker 2: it goes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's the horror of what had to
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  Speaker 1: be going through those late pilots' brains as they are,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hurling headlong into that fire truck and with
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  Speaker 1: no ability to pull out or otherwise prevented from happening.
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't know that there's any blame that
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  Speaker 1: could be placed in the lapse of the pilots. It
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to be possible for me, because they
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  Speaker 1: were told to land right, they were.
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  Speaker 2: Given clearance, they were following procedures when they broke the
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  Speaker 2: low ceilings and rotated down as far as the rare
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  Speaker 2: landing gear and then you rotate forward for the forward
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  Speaker 2: landing gear to touch, and you've got all three you know,
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  Speaker 2: gears if you will, on the ground at once. At
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  Speaker 2: that moment, you look up and you got a vehicle
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  Speaker 2: that's starting to encroach on the runway, and you know
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  Speaker 2: your mind is saying, we're cleared, they should be held,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, you're just responding and reacting at that
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  Speaker 2: point in time. And I think it was when it
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  Speaker 2: was on the ground that the captain took over the controls.
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  Speaker 2: It was his aircraft, because you always want the more
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  Speaker 2: experienced pilot and handling an emergency and obviously the identified
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  Speaker 2: what it was. They did what they could, but they
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  Speaker 2: just didn't have enough room. And you know, the one
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  Speaker 2: thing about it is we will learn more as we
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  Speaker 2: hear the details from the cockpit voice recorder as far
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  Speaker 2: as any conversations or things that might have been ongoing
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  Speaker 2: in those last few seconds, but they had so little
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  Speaker 2: time to respond. Their crew did everything that they could,
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  Speaker 2: and again, the fire truck was given permission to cross,
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  Speaker 2: so they were doing what they could. And it was
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  Speaker 2: at an angle, so it wasn't like you're at a
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  Speaker 2: four way stop. He just kind of glanced to your right.
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  Speaker 2: It was at an angle where their nose of the
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  Speaker 2: truck is apparently pointed away from the arriving aircraft. And
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  Speaker 2: you've got all these lights around you that are very
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  Speaker 2: bright at the runway, so it's not like it would
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  Speaker 2: be so obvious that the plane is coming in. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just a sad, sad situation that we, you know,
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  Speaker 2: look at, and you just we need to learn from
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  Speaker 2: it so that we can prevent it from ever happening again.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what needs to be done. One more with
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  Speaker 1: i art media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. Maybe an illustration
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  Speaker 1: I think I know the answer, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: say no. But one of the listeners, Rick, wanted to
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  Speaker 1: know if the ground equipment has a transponder like the aircraft.
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  Speaker 2: They do not normally, even though airports have the technology
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  Speaker 2: where that is possible. In fact, one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that we'll see from the National Transportation Safety Board, I suspect,
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  Speaker 2: because we've already conversations on this, is having transponders so
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  Speaker 2: that the air traffic control tower can keep up with
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  Speaker 2: where everybody's at it at all times. So we'll have
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  Speaker 2: to wait and see exactly which way this goes. But
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  Speaker 2: most airports or most ground vehicles do not, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that we're moving in that direction very very quick.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can go out and get an Apple tag
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  Speaker 1: and put it in a suitcase and figure out where
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  Speaker 1: that thing is at any given moment in time. So
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  Speaker 1: it seems to me it's easy and affordable technology. So
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  Speaker 1: he just need someone DEMANDATA being put in place for
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  Speaker 1: the benefit of all of us. I'm guessing anyway, you know, Jay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I will never run into a story
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  Speaker 1: like this at some point in my life. This will
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  Speaker 1: never happen again, because I review this, these three women
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  Speaker 1: who wouldn't pay their bag fees, and it had been
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  Speaker 1: a melee as a reflection of societal decay. Jay, I would.
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  Speaker 2: Agree, because you had these three women are on a
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  Speaker 2: frontier flight in Miami. They're at the gate and they
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  Speaker 2: have paid for their carry on bag, which you need
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  Speaker 2: to do, but they had more than one, and the
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  Speaker 2: gate agent did exactly what she's trained to do, saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: we need to have you pay for these additional bags
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll get you on the plane. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: women didn't want to refuse, and then push their way
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  Speaker 2: past the agent and board the airplane and flop down
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  Speaker 2: in the seats as though possession is what ninety percent
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  Speaker 2: of the law or something, because my butts in the seat.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how that's saying goes. You would know.
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  Speaker 2: But the frontier agent gets follows and says, look, we
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  Speaker 2: need a have you pay for this, but b if
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  Speaker 2: you're not, we need to get you off the plane.
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  Speaker 2: And they said, no, we're not going to move. And
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  Speaker 2: the agents in the flight attendants try to make it
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  Speaker 2: clear to these three if you don't, we have to
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  Speaker 2: involve law enforcement. We don't want to do that. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they would not, budget law enforcement boards the plane. They
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  Speaker 2: still won't leave. So that's when the police, knowing that
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  Speaker 2: there might be a bit of a scene, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: back off and everybody's off the plane takes everybody's getting
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  Speaker 2: off the plane while these three women are just sitting
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: there refusing to comply, and they kept saying they had
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: a boarding pass, And what the police and the agents
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: were saying is that has been voided. You no longer
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: have a boarding pass to be on this flight. You
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: are now trespassing. You're facing a line of charges here
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: and again you're trying to avoid having this kind of
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a situation take place, and you're trying to peal to
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: people's reasons reasoning, but nope, they weren't budgeting, Brian. So
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: everybody had to get off that plane so that police
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: could in essence remove these individuals. That took some effort,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: and you don't want that on video. That's why you
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: get everybody else the plane. And the other thing is
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: people left. I think the flight was delayed by an
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: hour because of the antics of these three women. Now
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: not only was that flight delayed, but it goes somewhere
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: where another group of people are waiting to catch the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: flight go somewhere, so you could end up delaying something
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: for an extended period of time. And that's really unfortunate
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: when that happens. But that's exactly what took place here
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: because of three people that were just bound to determine
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: and not to pay that bag fee. And I guarantee
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: you this, they violated federal law by not responding to
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: the instructions of a uniform crew member. The FAA could
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: send them and may send them a fine for maybe
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars apiece. And then I wonder if they're thinking, wow,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: maybe it would have been a really good idea if
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: we'd have paid that bag fee.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe for one of twenty five bucks. They're going
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to find out themselves banned from airline flights. They're going
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to find themselves facing a ten thousand dollars fine and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: maybe even some sort of prosecution. Because you know, this
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: is a federal issue. You never know, somebody's going.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: To have to be an example and they'll be banned
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: from Frontier, but they won't be banned from other airlines,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: even though they should be. I think if you act
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: up like that, especially that kind of a situation, you
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: should be putting time out for like two years, maybe
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: three nothing, no lifetime ban, just something that sends the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: message that here we go again on this topic, there
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: are consequences to your actions. Well, yeah, there are.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And that video that's gone around about their antics and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: how they behave didn't look well for them. I mean,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a human being on the planet
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of the looks that goes. I want to be that person.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So well, then you wonder who they work for and
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: things like that, and that's when it spills into your
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: private life and all kind all kinds of bad things. Oh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: this person works for this company. Why didn't know they
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: employed those kind of people?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, there you go, and so it goes and finally,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: don't do this. Vaping on a plane is ver boat
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and apparently it doesn't go well for you if you
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: ignore the law and the rules.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a Jet Blue flight that was coming in.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Passenger was vaping. The alarm goes off and the captain
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: they get him out of there, and the captain calls
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the ahead and asks for law enforcement to be standing by,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: and in the back and forth, the captain said, we
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: just want somebody to talk to him, to talk to
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: explain how serious it is. So that made me think
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna kind of be a little bit okay
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and not be you know, and not gonna throw them
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: in jail arresting those kinds of things. Just try to
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: explain it. Because if you scare people enough, they're gonna
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: get they're gonna get it right. And a lot of times,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: when you got a bunch of police officers that you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: don't know if you're going to jail, be detained, whatever
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: it might happen to be, that is enough. And typically
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that's the case, and I think that's what they were
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: trying to do here. But yeah, some people can't go
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: X amount of minutes without babing, smoking, what have you.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And you simply can't do it on a plane, because,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: just like we've talked about before, that's against the rules.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: That's a federal offense. You're endangering the lives of other people.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, all of this right,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: and yeah, you could face a fine ten thousand dollars
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: or more and face jail time. Please don't, Yeah, don't.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Don't do things you're not supposed to.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You can disagree with the rule or the law. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: can think it's stupid. You can point out that it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: not actually combustible, and it really is fairly innocuous by
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: comparison to actual smoking. Nonetheless, that's the law. So suck
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it up and deal with it and don't break it,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and you won't ruin everybody else's day. So we typically
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: end here. I heard mediaviation expert Jay Radlff. How's it
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: look out there for flying? Any help delays?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you know, normally we've got really good days, Brian.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: We don't mean it's not a good day. Yeah. Dallas
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and Houston issues, Minneapolis issues, weather problems for Chicago that
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: are going to be We've already dealing with issues in
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: New York later Boston. It's just going to be a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: day where we're going to have a challenging day to fly.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So take a lot of patience if you're headed today's.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Airports and call ahead find out if your flight is delayed.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Jay right Loff, thank you for your time each and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: every week, my friend, it's always a real pleasure for
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: my listeners and me. And again I'll behalf of my
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: entire listening audience and Joe Strecker and my family to you.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Have a wonderful, wonderful Easter weekend.