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Random Heathen Ramblings: S5, EP41 - What Are The Runes? [Patreon Request] · Random Heathen Ramblings

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Hello everyone, and welcome to the Random Heathen Ramblings
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Of things dramatic Heathenry related.
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My name is Jesse. I am your host.
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Let's get into it. Well, hail and hello everyone
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recommendation on. Future podcast episodes.
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And this one is coming from what you say his name is Robert.
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I like to protect people's. Identity as much as possible
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even though they are, you know, interacting in an online space.
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But Robert wanted to suggest an episode on what the runes are
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and these. Are Robert's exact words he?
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Said What are the runes? So it's like before part.
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Question sort of thing, he said. What are the runes?
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Where does Odin get them? Why does he need to do a ritual
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and almost die to gain them? And lastly, does this suggest
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the runes are above or beyond the gods?
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And I love talking about the runes rune ology.
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And you know, I'm, I'm not a rune ologist, but I am someone
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who has found the runes to be useful in his heathen practices.
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I don't think that all heathens necessarily, every heathen
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should, you know, unless they feel, unless they feel.
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Called to it. Or unless it's something that is
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speaking to them that they should just think that well if
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I'm a heathen I have to learn the runes.
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It's it's not like. A prerequisite?
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Sort of. Thing in my mind, but for me in
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my heathen practices and it and it didn't start out that way
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either. Excuse me, It didn't start out
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with me becoming heathen or, or, or finding a heathen path and
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then then saying, well, let me just Start learning the runes,
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what the ruins mean, their individual meanings, their, you
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know, phonetic meanings, their esoteric meanings, etcetera.
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No, it took a. A couple of years, two or three.
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Years of, of me being into heathen right before it became
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revealed to me or it was revealed to me that the the
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ruins were something that I was going to be pursuing or, or
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looking into as part of my practices.
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So again, don't feel like if you're listening to this and
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you're a new heathen and you're, and you're trying to figure out
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like what the ruins are. Don't think that if you don't
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know what they are that you all of a sudden just need to.
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Do so. By default it.
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You know you don't inherently need to know rune information or
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or know anything about the ruins to be heathen.
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It is a very specific. Approach.
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I feel and my approach is probably different than.
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Other people's approaches. From the individuals that I've
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spoken to and learn things from, you know the way.
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That I work with. The runes is unique to me and my
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cultic practice, my individual cultic.
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Practice. And, and, and, and how I've gone
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into learning runic divination or, or, or runic esotericism.
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Whatever term you want to put to it has been through a lot of
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different readings, you know. Some folks out here will.
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Have a very staunch approach about don't read this book from
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this author, don't read this website from this person because
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of this thing that. Or the other.
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I understand kind of where that comes from.
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Because there's a lot. Of misinformation out there.
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There's a lot of. Incorrect information out there.
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But I will also say that. You're not going to learn
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anything unless you research anything and everything.
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It's sometimes good to research things that.
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Get a bad review or that have bad press.
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Just for the simple fact of you need to gain that knowledge.
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Of why or or of? Of what it is and what makes it
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such. So please, you know, if you're
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interested or you're thinking about learning more about what
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the runes are you, you will definitely hear some people,
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especially educated and learned runeologists, discredit or or
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discount certain authors. I've been one of them too, that
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even though I'm not a brunologist, I've been 1.
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Like, you know, Ralph Bloom, for instance.
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You know, he he's like the guy that.
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We don't ever recommend or. Suggest people pick up or or
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read their. Books I've I've skimmed through.
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Ralph's book I've I've. You know, seen some highlights
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and I'm going what in the world is this and when where is it
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coming from? And it's so you'll hear that a
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lot about certain authors and him being so specific one.
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But I just say, you know, if if you're interested and you want
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to pick up a book, you want to spend your hard earned money on
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a book and read it, whether it's Ralph Bloomer or anybody else,
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you know, go for it. But what are the runes?
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You might be wondering what we're talking about.
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The runes in popular modern day opinions or views are the
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characters, the symbols? Kind of like what you see around
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this stave in in the backdrop behind me.
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They are characters or or. Symbols that represent letters.
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Of a. Writing system that was used at
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one point in time before the Latin alphabet became a familiar
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thing to that population. So there's different different
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runic. Alphabets, if you will.
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There's. Different different runic
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symbols. For the sake of this.
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Podcast. And for the sake of keeping
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things kind of relative to heathen content, we're going to
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start. And talk about what The elder?
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Futhark. So the Futhark runes are the
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Germanic runes. Elder Futhark specifically are
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the. Oldest known Germanic runes.
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That were used at a period of. Time that that predate, you
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know. The very popular.
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Modern, you know, the Viking Age or, or or medieval Scandinavian
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times predates. All of that.
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And it was in his belief that these are the runes that were
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used to write in a Proto Germanic language.
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Proto Germanic. Is a, is a largely.
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Reconstructed language nowadays. So if you ever come across or
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hear anybody reciting or saying anything in a proto Germanic
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language, it is a reconstructed language.
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Don't necessarily know how it sounded, but based upon a lot of
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things that have been discovered in history and and what we know
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of languages that are Germanic languages.
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So everything from, you know, modern German that go all the
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way back to things like old, old, old English, Old Saxon, Old
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Middle German, Old High German, these Germanic languages that we
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do know through scholarly evidence and archaeological
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finds and things that they. Were as they.
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Did have a specific sound, so a. Lot of the these old.
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Languages that are dead now that aren't spoken anymore, where
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I've been reconstructed and believed to have sounded a
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certain way. So at the time in history when
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the proto Germanic would have been spoken, it is believed that
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these runes the Elder Futhark runes where the runes used to to
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write in that language. So at a very basic.
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Level runes are symbols that represent the phonetic value of
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the spoken language. Of that particular people as we
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go through history, as we get closer.
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To modern times over time. Just as it as it.
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Does even in modern times, languages evolve and so do the
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sounds and alphabet and things that were being.
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Used. To to write and communicate in
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those languages so you know at a time when the 24 Elder Futhark.
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Runes covered the the vocal. Sounds and and and the things
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that. The way that the people.
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At that time, would speak in as language evolved, some of those
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runes disappeared. Some of those runes were renamed
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or or or or found different meaning so that you'll see like
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an evolution happen again kind of during, you know?
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A little bit before the. The the Viking Age, as it's
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called, you know, so a. Little bit before the.
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The seven hundreds where those Elder Futhark runes start to get
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renamed or disappear and and they get reduced.
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So from it from from 24 Elder Futhark runes you have 18
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Younger Futhark runes. That were used to write.
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In and communicate in in the non evolved now Old Norse language
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of Scandinavia. So you say old Icelandic old you
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know Norwegian they're those those languages are very similar
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or say modern Icelandic modern modern Norwegian, right.
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These languages, these Scandinavian languages are very
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similar to what old Norse was. I think I think most people
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would agree that modern. Icelandic is the closest to.
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The way Old Norse would have would have sounded or or was
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spoken. But again, at that time, right
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around the seven hundreds in in between the seven and you know,
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year 1000 in that 300 or so year period is when we see the
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younger Futhark being used more, I want to say.
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That the the characters. Of the Anglo Sax and futhorc are
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a little bit earlier than the Younger Futhark.
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I believe they, they, they. Predate when the Younger Futhark
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appear in in in like rune stones or or inscriptions or or or
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other archaeological finds like jewelry bractiates things of
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that nature. And of course, the Anglo-Saxon
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futhorc were runes that were used to write in the old English
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language. So again, you know, if if we're
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talking about what the runes. Are at a very base.
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Level runes. Are the the characters?
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The symbols that represent the phonetic sound, you know.
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So Rhode Island though means you know, has the R sound and FEHU
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is the F sound and you know, full.
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Resource is the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, TH sort of
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the. Sound, you know.
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T was is the TH. Sound and etcetera, etcetera.
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So you know as you as you would might look up online or or find
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charts of what the different, you know the different languages
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were at the time and what the runic.
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Characters were. You'll you'll you'll see them
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being. Equated to as as like.
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Letters of the the Roman alphabet or the Latin alphabet
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where you know R says you know the.
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Right, Oath says. R and Fei who says F?
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You know, so it gives those sounds, but the runes are are
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are quite more than just letters of an alphabet or letters of a
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system used to write in a language.
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And I'm just, and I'm just giving you examples of what you
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know, different runic characters, runic letters are
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there are many different runic alphabets.
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That have. Come and gone over time.
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Depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go and
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how much you want to research into it, you can do that, but
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again for the. Sake of what?
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This podcast. Is about in, in, in Heathenry.
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We're going to just stick to like the dramatic system.
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So that is. Wasted at the very.
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Base level what the ruins are, but they are much more than that
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There is been increasing discoveries and increasing
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evidence that would suggest that runes the symbols yes they.
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Are letters, but they would be used.
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And and and inscribed. Or or or carved.
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Into or onto things to imbibe that thing with some sort of
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magical. Or esoteric properties.
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I'll be I'll be linking some things in the description of
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this video and in the show notes of this podcast for sources that
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you can go to and find what I mean and what I'm referring to.
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But as we see again, especially during the the quote UN quote
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Viking age of Scandinavia, where across Denmark and Sweden and I
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think even Norway, right where rune stones have been erected.
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You know, those were, those were stones that have been carved in
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the Younger Futhark runic system to commemorate someone or
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something that was done or that someone did.
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So they were commemorative. Pieces they were.
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They were. Written in the language at the
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time and and they were not using a Latin alphabet, they were
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using a runic alphabet. So aside, but aside from those
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things, aside from those monuments, aside from those
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commemorative. Pieces there are also.
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Other things that have been found over time that again
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strongly suggest and imply that those runic characters were used
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in magical contexts if you leave and look.
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At the word itself? What?
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Rune means in different periods of time throughout history, it
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could have meant different things.
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It could have meant the letter the the the the symbol itself
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could have also meant secret or mystery.
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There was a interview done I think just this year with Ainar
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Selvik of of Wardruna and Dr. Rune Rune Rasmussen of the
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Nordic Animism website where the two of them spoke about it and,
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and and Ainar kind of alludes to the.
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The old root of the. Word rune as rune, meaning this
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sort of chance or this sort of spell almost in a way that would
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be conjured or so spoken like a as in as in a song, you know?
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So that tracks also. Very much so.
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With what we read about. In the Hovemall In the section
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of the Hovemall, a poem contained in the poetic.
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Edda. One of the older poems that that
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makes up the original Codex Regis manuscripts of
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Scandinavian. Sources the.
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In the Hall of Them All, which I'll be reading a little bit
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from here. For you all today, the the the
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speaker as as. Odin in the section of the hall
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mall called the rune Natal the rune songs the rune you know he
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he talks a bit and even pre previously from that portion of
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the poem the rune. Natal that the.
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The runes are songs or that he knows these songs and so.
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There's that, there's that. Thing that sort of confirms what
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Einar was saying or or reinforces I should say what
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einar was saying is that. The root of that word.
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Rune is is is something of a could be again seen as a
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something of a mystery or something of a secret, but also
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is a something that is. Played or or or.
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Spoken in a song sort of way when playing drums or
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instruments or something to sort of conjure or generate that that
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magic. So from the HA of them all I
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will and and by the way. The the the copy or.
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The translation that I'm reading from today is a a modern
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translation. It is the Heathen study edition
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of mythological poems. And this is.
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The Poetic Edda. The author is Thorstein
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Mayfield. So I will I will post if it's
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still available. I believe it still is.
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Online if you want to. Get a copy of this.
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Version of the. Poetic Edda, like I said.
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You know some. People have their favorites of.
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Of translators and authors who translated the Poetic Edda and
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in the poems contained therein from their original languages,
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some people have their favorites.
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I do too. But I do like to hear and see
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others translations. Of it as well so.
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If it's available, a link will be in the show notes and
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description for you if you want to get.
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A copy of this book yourself. This the the copy of.
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The of this translation of the. Of the Poetic Edda.
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So from this translation from the Hall of them all contained
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at the stanza, what is it in this?
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Again, in this translation is stanza 111.
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If you're reading or or or referring to this stanza from
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other translations, it might be 1 before or one after.
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That's kind of a a pattern we see in some translations.
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Where, where, Where the Where the author?
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Where the translator? Decided to break up the.
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The stanzas from but in this translation it is stanza 111.
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And again, the speaker in this context was is, you know, Odin.
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So he says it is. Time to chant.
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The sages it. Is time to chant on.
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The Sages chair at the Well of Urd.
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I saw and was silent. I saw.
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And was thoughtful. I listened to the speech of men
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of runes. I heard them speak.
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Nor were they silent in council. At Horrors Hall.
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In Horrors hall I heard it's spoken so so chant on the sage's
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chair. A chant again alludes.
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To a a. A song or a sort of melody or or
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something of an incantation being done.
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At the well of urge. Listening and and seeing and
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absorbing these things and, and obtaining the knowledge of these
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rooms or these mysteries perhaps, or these songs even
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could be one way of, of interpreting it.
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And that's again, that's in that's before the Rue Natal
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section of the Hava Mall. So that was stanza 111 if we
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move up. Forward to the.
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Stanza 138. Or even 137 I think and more
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like 138, at least in this translation.
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So again, different translations might number them differently
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and start them differently. But around the stands at 138 is
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when the Ruin Natal section of the have them all begins.
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And this is when Odin says, I know that I hung upon a tree
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exposed to the wind Knights, all nine wounded.
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By Spear. And given to Odin myself, to
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myself on that tree that no man knows from where that root runs
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not. With a loaf or with?
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Horn, did they bless me? I looked down.
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I took up the runes, crying out loud.
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I took them. Then I fell back from there.
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Mighty songs 9. I learned from the famous son of
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Bull Thorn, bestless father, and I got a drink of the clear Mead
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of the dear Mead sprinkled out of Othrair.
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Then I learned to make myself fruitful and to be well
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informed, to grow and thrive as well.
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Words from me sought words, deeds from me.
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Sought deeds. Runes you will find and
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counselling. Staves.
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Very, very potent staves. Very strong staves that the
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mighty sage do, that the mighty sage knew and the great gods
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made. I'm sorry, the mighty Sage.
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Drew. The great gods made and.
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Copper carved with power. Odin among the Asir Dane for
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elves, Dwalin for. Dwarves.
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Ozvidir. For giants, I counsel, I carved
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some myself. Do you know?
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How you should? Carve.
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Do you know how you should interpret?
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Do you know how you should draw? Do you know how you should
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attempt? Do you know how you should ask?
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Do you know how you should worship?
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Do you know how you should send? Do you know?
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How you should sacrifice? And then the last poem of the of
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the Hovmal is is is a kind of a forewarning of it is better
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unasked than over sacrificed for.
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Always a gift looks. For a return it is better unsent
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than over sacrificed for thus thruned carved before the
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origins of the people. At that place he rose up.
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When he came back, so this kind of again in some of these
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stanzas. It it is it is.
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Suggested I mean very much so in the the the the 140th stanza
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Mighty songs 9 I learned from the famous son of bold horn
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Bestless. Father.
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Mighty songs 99 mighty songs so these songs these things are are
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are you know you could say were were discovered or learned from
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the experience of taking up the runes or the runes were those
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songs that. He that he took up.
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So going back to one of Robert's questions, you know.
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Where does? Odin get them.
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Where does Odin get the runes? He gets them from the.
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Well of Earth at the roots of Igor.
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Seal according to the myth, you know according to the.
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Lore Why does it take? Odin what?
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Does he say? Why does it?
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Why does he need to do a ritual and almost die to gain them?
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If you read over. Around in in the hall of them
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all and understand like what some of the songs were that that
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Odin learned some of the spells, if you will, some of the songs.
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These are powerful things and and and again it suggests that
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the what is done with the runes, with the symbols.
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With the staves. Because that is also something
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that is mentioned, you know, potent staves, strong staves,
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counseling staves, right? All of these different things
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that can come from learning these mysteries and learning.
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These these these. These marks, these symbols,
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these these things that you need to know specifically how you
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should carve them, how you should interpret them, how you
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should draw them, how you should, you know, ask of them,
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worship them, send them, sacrifice them again, these are.
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These are words used by the author of.
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This translation that may. Differ or vary?
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Slightly, but I believe. The spirit of it is.
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The same regardless of the translation that you're going to
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be reading from. Why does Odin have to sacrifice
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himself and almost die? You know he he is impaled by his
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own spear hanging from a tree for 9 long days and nights as a
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sacrifice of himself to himself. You know this.
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This to me just is, is another example of that.
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You know life is about ordeal and Worthing.
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To gain sacred knowledge, to gain access to the mysteries.
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Of. Life or the mysteries of of our
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experience in life. It takes sacrifice.
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It takes. The giving up of ourselves,
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whether it's our time, our energy.
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Part of our spirit, our our our the the various parts of our
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soul that the, the the the. The complex.
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Cities of our soul. Being given up to obtain the
28:50
knowledge of these things and Odin in the.
28:53
Stories is is the. The first one to do that, to
28:56
gain these mysteries, because what happened after he did that?
29:02
After he sacrifices, was that he?
29:04
Learned to make himself fruitful from word, begat word, from deed
29:11
begat deed. And so he was well informed.
29:13
He was well. Educated he was.
29:15
Able to then thrive and do better based on the the the
29:21
accessing of of knowledge. Of the of.
29:24
These of these mysteries does. The does this suggest that?
29:34
The runes are above or beyond the gods.
29:39
I believe that the runes are older.
29:40
These mysteries, these things are definitely older than the
29:43
gods. They are.
29:43
They are ageless. They are timeless.
29:46
They are sounds. They are.
29:49
Cosmic vibrations. They are things that have
29:52
existed in the known universe and the unknown universe for
29:55
longer than recorded time and memory.
29:58
They have seen, they have witnessed, they have vibrated.
30:00
They have been there since the Gnunga got since.
30:04
The great void before the. Realms were even formed.
30:11
They are above and beyond. The gods, but there.
30:14
Are some that have been carved by the.
30:15
Gods for the gods for the elves, for the dwarves.
30:20
You know, for humans, for for mankind.
30:25
This is this. Is all written about throughout
30:29
the Norse lore contained in the Poetic Edda.
30:33
You know, this is important stuff, that.
30:34
That is, if you're serious. About Heathen Reed if you're
30:37
serious about learning these things that you've become versed
30:40
and that you that you become knowledgeable and that you sort
30:42
of spend time at the. Tree, if you will.
30:46
To learn these things but it all comes with a price cause again
30:52
Odin didn't didn't get the knowledge of these things
30:55
without. 1st. Sacrificing 9 days and nights
30:59
himself to himself I wanted to talk about.
31:03
This particular topic this week because today as I'm recording
31:09
this this this podcast. You know I don't, you know for.
31:14
Folks that that that watch. My stuff on on Patreon know that
31:20
I'm usually drinking. Out of a a whiskey.
31:22
Glass. I have a Tumblr with whiskey in
31:23
it. It's different today.
31:25
This this mug, this horn mug contains water.
31:30
OK, I have not. I haven't consumed alcohol
31:41
since. Today is Monday, Monday November
31:46
4th and I haven't consumed any alcohol since Halloween night
31:51
October 31st and I also haven't ate any solid food since then
31:59
and I still have. Days left to go.
32:01
On this, this fast, and I am fasting for more than just the
32:09
quote UN quote health benefits that go along with it.
32:13
You just, you know, do your research if you want to, you
32:16
know, know what the health benefits are for longer fasting,
32:19
Intermittent fasting is a thing and it's a healthy thing to do.
32:23
But I am on a, on a long fast. Of a of a week.
32:29
You know, so I will not eat solid food again until.
32:32
The day that this podcast. Airs by the time you're
32:35
listening to this if you're if you're catching this the morning
32:37
that it airs. I, I I I still have hours left
32:42
to go. Before I break my fast and it's
32:48
a sacrifice of myself to myself. But also to sort of.
32:54
Gain healing clarity the help that I need to be a better man,
33:04
to be a better. Brother to be a better.
33:06
Husband to be a better be a better person.
33:13
To to. Increase my might and mean so
33:18
that I can better serve in the capacity that I've been given to
33:21
serve, you know? The sacrifice to, to, to.
33:29
Attain these things is high. The the the reward is high, but
33:32
the the the sacrifice is great. And it's not for everybody.
33:36
Not everybody can't just. Stop with their.
33:39
You know, stop eating solid food everybody can't hang from 9 days
33:42
and nights on a tree all. Right.
33:44
Like I, I, I. Understand like there's a, you
33:47
know, take it in context. It's it's.
33:49
You know, part of the mythos, part of the lore.
33:54
But if you if you. Like none of the other gods did
33:57
this, Odin did this. Odin had to do this to to gain
34:02
this knowledge you know he had. To sacrifice his eye.
34:04
And me, me as well, to gain wisdom and to see the things
34:11
that he didn't see before. This.
34:17
Type of stuff can get. Very philosophical.
34:20
I think, I think if you get a room of heathens or even
34:22
something like this. Right, if I had other.
34:24
People talking with me at the time of of of of filming.
34:27
This, that. You know, we could really get
34:31
into the weeds with the philosophical nature.
34:34
Of of these types. Of things.
34:39
But I do. I feel like this is a sort of.
34:42
Example being set to to understand what what it takes
34:51
there's you know another part of that that that first stanza that
34:54
I. That I read the.
34:56
Stanza 111 stuck out to me in in.
35:06
Let me go back and find it. Hold on, it is time to chant on
35:12
the. Sage's chair at the Well of
35:14
Rude. I saw and was silent, you know,
35:20
I listened to the speech of men. I saw and was thoughtful of
35:25
ruins. I heard them speak.
35:26
You're not going to. You're not going to hear.
35:29
What people have to say if you're.
35:31
Yapping at the jaw. You had to be quiet.
35:34
You're also not going to learn things from what is being said.
35:39
You're not going to be able to. Receive those.
35:45
Those songs, those mysteries, not going to be able to absorb
35:47
those things. If you're making a bunch of
35:50
racket talking, you have to be silent.
35:56
And I think that there is an interesting thing to think
35:59
about. That too is.
36:00
That you know, the mysteries that are received from the
36:02
runes, as I mentioned at the beginning of the podcast, in the
36:07
mysteries that the things that I've received, that I've gained
36:09
from my runic studies is isn't probably unique and not the
36:13
same. Entirely as as everybody else.
36:17
And there's, I think, a point to that.
36:19
I think that some of the things that are received by us when we
36:24
sacrifice. What we do to receive?
36:28
This knowledge to obtain the visions.
36:31
Of the of these mysteries. Is to be silent about them,
36:36
isn't to just go about, you know?
36:38
Hey guys, look what I. Found Look what I learned.
36:43
That's my opinion. There's a lot of.
36:45
Good information out here that has been shared from people by
36:50
doing that. By By.
36:51
Learning by studying and by sharing.
36:55
But when it comes to some of like the the.
36:56
Magical stuff that the esoteric side of of of the.
37:00
Runes of the opinion that those types of things.
37:05
Are to be kept silent. And are to be kept secret.
37:09
We don't learn from again making a bunch of racket and making a
37:15
bunch of noise about it or talking about it all the time.
37:17
We learn from sitting in silence, watching, listening.
37:23
And once those mysteries are given to us, those are meant for
37:29
us. We went through the sacrifice
37:32
ourselves and then we went through that ordeal, through
37:36
that Worthing to achieve and and receive those things.
37:42
And it is for us and for those perhaps chosen ones that you
37:46
know, have been put in our paths to.
37:50
Share. To share those things with, you
37:54
know, I've learned a lot of different things from different.
38:03
People that have had years. Of experience with runic charms,
38:10
runic divination, and I've also learned a lot from people who
38:13
have next to no years or or or time of experience.
38:20
There was, there was. A couple of months, yeah,
38:23
probably a few months ago now where I was sitting and talking
38:28
with one of my tribesmen, going over just.
38:32
Some basic stuff about the. Runes again, the runic symbols,
38:36
what they mean, the reciting or, or referencing some of the rune
38:42
poems like the, the Norwegian rune poem and the Anglo-Saxon
38:47
rune poem, Icelandic rune poem and kind of going through each
38:51
of them and, and saying, yeah, well, this rune is what it is.
38:54
And in each of the rune poems, you know, one poem for this rune
38:58
might be very much different from the other room poems and if
39:03
you get into. That you'll see that too.
39:05
You know. What?
39:06
What Urus or ur? Is in one room poem is is what
39:10
it says in that room poem is different entirely meaning wise
39:14
and it goes into sort of the again like I talked about.
39:17
Before. Evolution of language and, and
39:19
what a word meant at a time versus what a word meant later
39:22
on. And but like, yeah, talking with
39:26
one of my tribesmen about that particular thing.
39:29
And, you know, he comes up with this, this whole new idea of,
39:32
you know, well, you know, like something I had never thought
39:35
of. And I'd been, you know, working
39:37
in the ruins and, and spending more time learning about them
39:42
than than he did. And he just, you know, came up
39:46
with that thing to think about. And I go, wow, you know, that
39:49
was, that was actually not too far off base, you know what I
39:54
mean? Like it it it in the moment and
39:56
in the context of things makes sense.
40:00
Can we prove it? Can we confirm that that's what
40:02
it was? Not really, you know, not by any
40:05
definitive measure of things, you know.
40:12
And then again, on the other hand, I've, I've, I've seen
40:15
things done with the runic charms by by by somebody who.
40:20
Has a lot of years. Decades.
40:24
Of experience using the runic symbols in a system or in a way
40:30
and using it in a method. That is very.
40:32
Specific to his family's traditions, something that his
40:35
great grandfather taught him, who was Icelandic and having
40:42
that kind of history with the runes and having that sort of
40:45
knowledge and, and stuff passed down, you know, that's, that's
40:52
not something you're going to find or read about in a book or
40:55
on some manuscript or whatever, you know.
40:58
So it was, it was a family's way of doing things.
41:01
It was a very specific clan or a very specific unit of family
41:05
collective way of doing things, you know, so.
41:10
Whether you buy 3-4? Six different books and hear a
41:15
bunch of different things. You know, you still could spend
41:18
all the time reading about it, practicing it, doing it,
41:22
developing a method and find a method that works for you, that
41:26
was given to you. Through the sacrifice, through
41:30
the. Giving of.
41:31
Yourself to, yourself to. Obtain the mysteries and then
41:33
finding them. I don't and I can't say this is
41:36
this is again, this is all, you know, UPG I don't think that
41:39
there is one universal way that the runic symbols, the runic
41:44
charms, the staves are going to necessarily.
41:46
Speak for everybody there are. Certainly could be certain
41:49
staves that are done for specific things, but in terms.
41:52
Of the the the fluidity. Of it all, we're again, we're
41:55
talking about things that are, that are older than the gods,
41:59
that are older than time, as far as we've reckoned it.
42:03
They're they're cosmic sounds, cosmic vibrations, things that
42:06
have existed eons upon eons beyond what our minds can
42:13
comprehend. So to think that they are
42:16
limited to meaning only this thing that or the other and very
42:19
boxed for, you know, like in a very specific box, you know,
42:24
modality. It doesn't feel right to me to
42:31
say that it for me in my. UPG feels like these are.
42:36
These are things that are a bit. More fluid they have.
42:40
There are rune poems that, that say, you know what Raido means
42:43
or what, what UR means or what Fehu means and, and, and so on
42:48
and so forth. And there's, there's a reason
42:52
for that. I think that when it comes to
42:55
the magical use of the of, of the runic charms or the runic
42:58
symbols, it transcends those things and it becomes a bit more
43:04
unique to the person being given the the the knowledge.
43:07
Through their sacrifice to learn.
43:09
Them you know it could be like a baseline to work off of, but
43:13
what mysteries are revealed? It goes way deeper.
43:20
Than that so you know what are the runes?
43:23
They are letters. They are symbols.
43:26
They are sounds. They are mysteries.
43:29
They are. Secrets they were.
43:35
Obtained by Odin. At the well of Ood.
43:41
At the roots of Idris. Seal why did he have to
43:48
sacrifice himself and nearly die to obtain that knowledge it's
43:52
cosmic mysteries, man that gets it's it's stuff that can drive a
43:57
person mad and did for a lot of folks you know and even for
44:00
Odin, you know he's. He is, he is.
44:03
Known as the mad one. He's known as one who is mad and
44:07
in in that. Ecstatic state fears for the
44:12
loss. Of mind and memory, or thought
44:15
and memory, you know, And so yeah, I hope that.
44:21
That was what you were. Looking for there, Robert.
44:25
It's what I got from your questions and our in our Patreon
44:30
community. So it was good timing for me to
44:32
to think about these things as you know, especially going on
44:35
through what I'm going through. You know those guys sacrifice.
44:39
You know, giving up of things. That are valuable to us that are
44:42
that are you? Know you got to think.
44:45
Like what sacrifice? Meant for ancient civilizations,
44:49
you know it. Was it was to give?
44:50
Up things that that you were dependent upon.
44:55
Your life depended on things that were.
44:59
Sacrificed. In a modern context I I don't
45:06
know how much more life dependent you can get when you
45:12
give up food your our bodies need.
45:16
Food to survive if we. Don't eat.
45:21
We are starving and we eventually, unless food is
45:25
reintroduced and until food is reintroduced, we are slowly
45:29
starving ourselves. I am slowly starving myself.
45:34
I'm doing it healthfully. Like I said, I'm I'm monitoring,
45:37
I'm listening to my body. I'm not going to do things that
45:40
are stupid. It's also the reason why I'm
45:43
refraining from alcohol or any other sorts of major stimulants
45:47
aside from. Tobacco like tobacco itself.
45:50
I'm I'm smoking a lot. Of pipe tobacco.
45:52
Pure tobacco. I'm drinking some tea, but it's
45:59
not caffeinated, you know, So I'm trying to really keep myself
46:01
as as clean as possible. With.
46:03
Things but you know, the tobacco was helping with my with my
46:07
grounding, with my earthing, with my being strong.
46:12
You know, I'm staying strong like that.
46:13
Medicine is helping me a lot. Staying hydrated, of course,
46:17
drinking lots of water, you know, citrus, adding some lemon
46:22
to it just to. Help with the flavor fatigue.
46:26
Plus the vitamins and stuff in the in the in the citrus to, you
46:30
know, keep my keep my body strong during this time of.
46:34
Of of sacrifice. But it is it's interesting, you
46:40
know, like for that time that Odin hangs on 9 on on age cell
46:44
for 9 days and nights, he's not eating, he's not drinking, he's
46:46
fasting. And then on that 9th day and
46:51
night, you know, he, he, he sees these things, he's given
46:55
knowledge of these things, and he screams and he's in agony and
46:58
he falls. He's in a state of weakness, you
47:01
know, again, after having impaled himself on his own spear
47:07
and gone. Through that great ordeal.
47:08
Of, of starvation for, you know, a week and a half.
47:13
I'm not going quite that long. I'll be going, you know, a week.
47:16
But I needed to, I have to, you know, I have things I needed to
47:21
to address. And I'm also while doing stuff
47:28
like this, you know, while while revisiting my podcast and and
47:32
getting back in touch with my audience out here, all of the
47:36
other things don't. Go.
47:37
Away you know they are important things for me to.
47:41
To address, to be healthy to. Be strong to be, you know, sharp
47:49
in my mind and in my spirit. That has been a very vibrant
47:59
topic. The Spirit walking our Rd. in
48:03
spirit. Our spirit.
48:05
Rd. a lot of you. Have been listening to this.
48:10
Podcast over the last several. Months and have been listening
48:12
to ads that I've run for Fire on the Mountain.
48:17
This year, the retreat was. Named Spirit Road and it and it
48:22
really was named so appropriately for the things
48:27
that were gone that were gone through during this year's
48:33
retreat. And you know, we are, we are
48:36
going to be myself and, and, and some of the other some of the
48:42
other attendees and and members of the planning board are going
48:45
to be doing a a live broadcast on here in a couple.
48:49
Of weeks. So November 15th I.
48:54
Believe that's a Friday at. 8:00 PM Eastern Time, 7:00 PM Central
49:03
time is going to be a live Q&A, So the panel will include myself
49:10
and and other leaders and attendees of Fire on the
49:13
Mountain. We're going to be reflecting.
49:15
We're going to be talking about this year's event, some of the
49:18
things that were going on, some of the highlights, some of the
49:20
things that we learned and. If you guys are.
49:24
Are going to want to listen and tune into this.
49:26
Live broadcast. You will be given a chance to to
49:28
ask the panelists questions about the event, about anything
49:34
you know that you have on your mind.
49:38
So TuneIn on Friday, November 15th for that there will be an
49:41
event posted on my socials, you know Facebook and and YouTube
49:46
about it. So that's.
49:49
Coming up in a couple. Of weeks I'm.
49:52
Looking forward to that, but. Yeah, it's it's very appropriate
49:55
to be. Coming returning back from from
49:59
this year's men's. Spiritual retreat.
50:01
Leadership Summit. That was named.
50:04
Spirit Road to have this. Thing of of of spirit health and
50:09
and then working in spirit be such a prevalent thing for me in
50:12
my mind. I continue to walk this spirit
50:17
Rd. So that's that's going to do it
50:21
for today. Hope you all enjoyed.
50:23
This episode if you did. You know, share it around.
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A vote it like it. Download it whatever you know
50:30
you can to to show your support in that sort of way and I.
50:35
Appreciate all of your. Continued and ongoing support
50:37
and understanding as I go and navigate through these things
50:41
that I'm discovering now and and figuring out.
50:44
So thank you, Robert. For this for this topic to talk
50:48
about this. Week it was great timing I.
50:50
Appreciate it and thank you. Especially to all my patrons on
50:53
Patreon that continue to pledge your.
50:54
Support at whatever tier that works.
50:57
For you, to everybody else, thank you all.
51:00
For your support. Until we talk and hear from each
51:03
other again, and the gods continue to notice you, and may
51:07
your ancestors smile upon you, and we'll see you in the next
51:10
one.