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MORBID VISIONS With MAX CAVALERA Part 2 · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: When we were cut off, Lass, I might we just
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  Speaker 1: started talking about your trilogy. You revisited Seffle to your album,
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  Speaker 1: so I want to continue with that, but specifically your
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  Speaker 1: mindset going into each album, Like did you try to
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  Speaker 1: take yourself back in time when the albums were first
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  Speaker 1: conceived or did you approach you with more of a
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  Speaker 1: clear head, more more of.
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  Speaker 2: A clean head, kind of like like a chance to
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  Speaker 2: do it again, but do it better, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of like not really fix the mistakes, because I think
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  Speaker 2: the mistakes were kind of cool, but make the make
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  Speaker 2: this stuff sound better. We had a chance to have
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  Speaker 2: better guitar, better drum sound, uh you know, a better studio,
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  Speaker 2: surrounded by knowledgeable metal people that knows how to record
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. None of those things were available when we
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  Speaker 2: made those records in Brazil. We were on our own,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like the engineers didn't know what you do
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  Speaker 2: and it was like no man's land making these records
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  Speaker 2: in Brazil. So we had a chance to redo them
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  Speaker 2: and redo them the way we envision them to sound.
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  Speaker 2: So the re recordings is the way we as musicians
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  Speaker 2: think they should sound. Like the re recordings, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's the proper way that we envisioned those songs even
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  Speaker 2: as the kids we were hoping to get what we
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  Speaker 2: The sound that we got on the rerecording is, this
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  Speaker 2: is what we are shooting for in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really cool that we get the chance to
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  Speaker 2: do that. A lot of bands don't get don't have
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  Speaker 2: the chance, don't try it, or they try and they fail,
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  Speaker 2: like they don't keep the energy and the angry, the
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  Speaker 2: anger of the original. You know, we kept all that
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  Speaker 2: in check. We make sure stays pissed. It's full of
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  Speaker 2: piece and vinegarar, you know, all the way through. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why a lot of people love the
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  Speaker 2: re recordings. Man, the people really really the fans freaking
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  Speaker 2: love the recordings, and it's really well receiver around the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: We actually just sort of this time, like you've gone
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  Speaker 1: back and you've readone it now, like with like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you betty guitars knowing what you're doing and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But do you think back then, if you had it
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  Speaker 1: gone into it polished, you think the albums would have
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  Speaker 1: been as well received. Like there's that rawness that paid
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  Speaker 1: the detracted paper, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean a lot of this stuff. We we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any there was not never had a manual
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  Speaker 2: how to do this stuff. We did it on a fly,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we did it it really kind of like
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  Speaker 2: uh they call it, you're gonna wing it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: You're just gonna do it by trial and airhor you
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  Speaker 2: know so. And that's the beauty of these records. They
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  Speaker 2: were full of stuff that really comes out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Like what I was thinking when I made this, Really,
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  Speaker 2: this riff is crazy, you know, what the hell? What
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  Speaker 2: the hell was I thinking? But it's beautiful, man, it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: It shows that even at the age of fourteen fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: I had that metal in my vein, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: had that I had the wild you know, metal flowing
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  Speaker 2: through my blood, and you know, I just went for it.
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  Speaker 2: And now I have a chance to revisit as an
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  Speaker 2: older person and still get the same enjoyment from these
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  Speaker 2: albums that I got it when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 2: It's an incredible feeling you get to do this. I
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  Speaker 2: feel very fortunate me and my brother we are able to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like celebrate our past through these albums and
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  Speaker 2: get you play them live for people. It's incredible feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I was speaking of probably live mate. Like you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: last time that you played a lot of material from
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  Speaker 1: those three albums, but you also doing other sepulchery songs
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  Speaker 1: brought through to the to the current couple of ear stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So in fact, you're like you're traveling through a sonic
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  Speaker 1: time machine every time you get on, like doesver overwhelm here?
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  Speaker 1: Like just all come I with you once the motion
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's great, it's a it's such a cool thing. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to even not to explain to
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  Speaker 2: people because a lot of times I'm on the stage
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  Speaker 2: and I'm having flashbacks of my life as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: I remember times in Brazil when I was playing this
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  Speaker 2: ship when I was fifteen, and how I felt when
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  Speaker 2: I was fifteen playing this stuff, And you get all
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  Speaker 2: these flashbacks mixed with nostalgia and then mix with the
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  Speaker 2: moment that you're in because you have a whole new
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  Speaker 2: generation of fans. There are new now, they were not
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  Speaker 2: really there in the eighties when we created this thing.
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  Speaker 2: All of those all of those feelings are incredible. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's such a cool thing to experience that.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, but you're right, it is a bit like
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  Speaker 2: going in a time and like, uh, this is as
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  Speaker 2: close as you're gonna get to nineteen eighty three man,
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  Speaker 2: You know, as if you want to, if you want to,
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  Speaker 2: like imagine how was how would it nineteen eighty if
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  Speaker 2: you must have felt like this, this Third Word Trilogy
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  Speaker 2: show is the closest thing you're gonna get to that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the other main difference with that this Rob Brown
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  Speaker 1: team and is he got your your son Ego with
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  Speaker 1: you and it was on the albums with you as well,
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  Speaker 1: Like watching him do that stuff might like does he
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  Speaker 1: ever remind you yourself at that age.
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  Speaker 2: A lot a lot, especially live, because it brings that energy,
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  Speaker 2: the kind of like just pure adrenaline and youth energy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just kind of like just going for it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the figure. That's what's cool about playing with
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  Speaker 2: Ego and Travis. They are the new blood. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they are more in They're more connected to the new
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  Speaker 2: bands right now, specially in the underground. You know. They
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  Speaker 2: they are you know, friends with everybody from Goatiah to
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  Speaker 2: like uh Noise and Pig Destroyer And I get you,
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  Speaker 2: I get you to be part of that through them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I get you. I get you still be
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  Speaker 2: influenced by metal that's been done right now, by newer
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  Speaker 2: bands from from my son, from Travis, and it's so
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  Speaker 2: it's cool. So we got you know, you got the
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  Speaker 2: old farts, you got me an Igor, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: older guys in the band, but we also get the
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  Speaker 2: new guys. But we also interact with them. You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like we don't know nothing about metal. We
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  Speaker 2: we I know a lot of these new bands. I
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  Speaker 2: actually like I follow the underground, you know, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: a big fan of extreme music. So it's fun. It's
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  Speaker 2: really fun. And I think I think the Bankcike's ass
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  Speaker 2: totally like is a total like everybody goes it gives
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent Renee And I tell you,
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  Speaker 2: after every short I'm exhausted, Like I'm all the exhausted,
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  Speaker 2: and then we've got to do it all over again
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  Speaker 2: next day. But it's great. It's a great feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Before I let you go, Max, I've started a
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  Speaker 1: new segment called photo Bomb, where before I talk you,
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  Speaker 1: I go through your social media. I get a couple
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  Speaker 1: of photos that I want to know a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more about. So first one I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so your.
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  Speaker 1: Whole career, mate, You've be known like wearing the right
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  Speaker 1: the stubs on stage and all your rocket starts and
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  Speaker 1: all that subbit that looks dangerous as Helme made. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to know if you've ever actually done yourself
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  Speaker 1: a mischief on stage while you're excited. And I only
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  Speaker 1: ask because this guy here is a friend of mine, Tracass.
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  Speaker 1: He's not with us anymore, but he's got something similar
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  Speaker 1: and he ended up like that.
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  Speaker 2: Every night he got.
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  Speaker 1: Off stage from his own spikes, he'd cut the shit
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  Speaker 1: out of himself. Like, have you ever done anything like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean like a couple of times, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the spikes you can hit each other, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: think I got hit. I think I got Travis bump
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  Speaker 2: into me, and I got I got cut with one
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  Speaker 2: of his spikes in one of the shows. But it's
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  Speaker 2: all good, man, it's fun. It's all part of the metal.
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  Speaker 1: And the other one playing an instrument that I've never
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  Speaker 1: seen before, mate, So can you let us know what
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  Speaker 1: are you playing there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? So that's the beering bow. That's a Brazilian instrument. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's called beering bao. It's very famous in Brazil, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, what what do you use that in certain songs?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of it, you know. I use
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  Speaker 2: it on Roots, I use on soa Fly, the whole,
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  Speaker 2: every Algo, every soul Fly record has a song with it.
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  Speaker 2: It has only one string and it sounds very tribal.
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  Speaker 1: It's just bloody big because twice your size.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like a bow and arrow.