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- 0:01Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, January twelfth, th im your
- 0:04host Tom Moore. The Akron game is in two hundred and thirty two days.
- 0:07The game against Michigan in three hundred and twenty three days. There is
- 0:11more news on the NFL draft declaration front than the Buckeyes. Got some good
- 0:15news and some bad news on Thursday. Let's start with the bad news.
- 0:21Prepare your fainting couches. Marvin Harrison Junior is declaring for the NFL Draft.
- 0:26I know I'm as shocked as you were. I'm sure we all saw the
- 0:30reports at Ohio State was preparing one point three trillion dollars in nil to win
- 0:35woo him back. Sadly that has not happened. Ar Goub believe was never
- 0:40happening. Anyway, That's not what we're here to talk about. We're here
- 0:43to talk about Marvin Harrison heading to the NFL. We're also here to talk
- 0:46about Amcca Abuka not heading to the NFL. Some very very good news on
- 0:50the whole. That's probably a win for Ohio State because Marvin Harrison was pretty
- 0:54much never coming back. I'm enjoyed by Kevin new newbuckehuddle dot Com and Kevin.
- 0:58Before we talk about Marvin Harrison the on field player, I think we
- 1:03have to just take a second just to talk about Marvin Harrison off the field
- 1:07and sort of the stuff that we got to see inside the woody. We
- 1:11talk all the time about, Oh look, he's on the Monarch machine.
- 1:12He's constantly working. He's constantly you know, always putting in the work,
- 1:18putting in the extra time. He also was one of the most friendly,
- 1:23outgoing, unassuming players I have covered over the years at Ohio State. And
- 1:27you know, when you were the son of a for you know, an
- 1:30NFL Hall of Famer and one of the best wide receivers in the country in
- 1:34probably the last decade, you don't have to be that way. But Marvin
- 1:40Harrison was just his whole time in Columbus just a class actor and beginning to
- 1:45end, Yeah, he really was. I mean he would not be hesitant
- 1:51to come over and say hello. I mean, if you went up and
- 1:53talked to him, he would always talk to you. Ohio State doesn't normally
- 1:57have a lot of guys that I can remember through the years that are just
- 2:01downright, you know, avoiding the media, don't want any part of it.
- 2:06I can remember maybe a couple of coaches, but maybe not players as
- 2:08much. And you know, he was he was a treat to cover.
- 2:13I mean, he was a hard worker. I think he's really kind of
- 2:15set the work ethic at Ohio State for years to come. But you know,
- 2:21just a just a super kid. And yeah, we had we did
- 2:24a live show on Wednesday night where somebody's like, I promise you, Marvin
- 2:30Harrison Junior is coming back. And I wasn't quite sure how I could bet
- 2:34all of the super chats we've ever received on that against against that happening,
- 2:38but I sure wanted to because there was no chance that he was going to
- 2:43come back. He is going to probably go no lower than number four to
- 2:47Arizona, barring some sort of you know, the draft order changing with trades
- 2:53and things of that nature. But this one was about as expected as as
- 2:58as they came. We had a story ready, probably more than a month
- 3:02ago, I would I would imagine basically the only thing he had to put
- 3:06in was the day of the week that he decided that this was going to
- 3:08happen. This was a foregone conclusion, and so you just touched on what
- 3:14his future may be. Top five NFL draft pick almost for sure, maybe
- 3:19top three, top two, and you know, if wide receiver was valued,
- 3:23maybe more than you know, as much or more than the quarterback position,
- 3:27maybe number one A. You know, him joining up with Marvin with
- 3:30Justin Fields in Chicago, that if the Bears can work some kind of a
- 3:35trade down there, that might not be a bad pairing. But wherever he
- 3:38is, he feels like one of the most sure bets of any Ohio State
- 3:44player, just in terms of ability, athleticism, work, ethic, the
- 3:47whole package. Just it feels like he's going to be successful wherever he goes.
- 3:53Now, looking back at his Ohio State career, it took him.
- 3:57You know now, I think everyone remembers the three touchdowns in the Rose Bowl
- 4:00and thinks, soh, he must have had like seventeen touchdowns his freshman year.
- 4:04He entered that Rose Bowl game with I think six catches and had I
- 4:08believe five catches when including the three touchdowns in that Rose Bowl game in twenty
- 4:12twenty two, twenty twenty one, and then Boom went off in twenty twenty
- 4:16two, twenty twenty three. Just always just such a consistent big time performer,
- 4:21incredible catches, just one of those guys who just on the field did
- 4:27everything right. And I would have loved to see Marvin Harrison in twenty twenty
- 4:31three with c J. Stroud speaking of NFL draft decisions that were not going
- 4:35to happen. C J. Drud was not going to come back for twenty
- 4:38twenty three, but if he had, oh Man, that another year of
- 4:43c J. Stroud and Marvin Harrison would have been remarkable this year, it
- 4:46really would have. And the thing that you have to remember, and it's
- 4:49just it's a result of how the room is. When you had Garrett Wilson
- 4:54and Chris o'lave and Jackson Smith and jig but ahead of you. And while
- 5:00JSN and Marvin Harrison Junior played different roles in the offense, you still had
- 5:08guys ahead of you and that and that's and that's the issue. I think
- 5:12we're going to sit there and look back here in a couple of years with
- 5:15guys like Carnell Tait and Brandon Ennison. Out of these guys not manage to
- 5:18get you know, any any real run their first year, and we're going
- 5:23to be like, well, because Ohio State had Marvin Harrison Junior in the
- 5:27Mecca Buca and we'll get to him in a minute. So once Marvin finally
- 5:31was able to break through, there was no turning back. And I think
- 5:36one of the great tragedies, other than the fact that Marvin Harrison Junior was
- 5:41not part of a team that was able to beat the team up north,
- 5:45was that we did not get to see a twenty twenty three where Ohio State's
- 5:50passing game was completely right and people can sit there and try and put it
- 5:58on one guy or another. And I think that there was plenty of blame
- 6:01to go around as to why the passing game wasn't right, but we could
- 6:05have really seen, I think a special season, as you mentioned, if
- 6:10c J. Stroud's eligibility would have lined up in a way of where he
- 6:15had to come back for one more year. C J. Stroud made the
- 6:17right decision and going pro as he's getting ready to take on the Cleveland Browns
- 6:20in the first round of the AFC playoffs, and Marvin Harrison Junior's decision was
- 6:26a no brainer as well. Is going to prove to be right as he
- 6:29will be a top five pick when the NFL Draft descends upon Detroit, Michigan
- 6:32here in I believe April. So you mentioned earlier sort of the culture in
- 6:38the room and got the younger guys watching Marvin Harrison his work ethic, you
- 6:44know what, he died to get ready for every single practice, every single
- 6:47game. It feels like we've had just over the years that culture has sort
- 6:53of been passed down and you know, it was Terry McLaurin and Paris Campbell
- 6:57and Johnny Dixon, and then it was you know, uh, you know,
- 7:01uh now now I'm trying to remember which which guys came with with which
- 7:04one Austin Mack and uh Ben Victor, and then it was uh, you
- 7:10know, Jackson Smith and Jigba and Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave and then now
- 7:15you've got Marvin Harrison and a Mecca Buca and then though they're going to be
- 7:17passing it down to that that next group below, it does feel like that
- 7:23culture in that room sort of the consistent excellence you've seen out of that room
- 7:28over the years. It feels like that's you know, you hear about,
- 7:31you know, these these societies with the the storytelling traditions and being passed down
- 7:36from generation to generation. It feels like it's sort of the same thing in
- 7:41that wide receiver room where you've had these guys sort of demonstrate like, hey,
- 7:45this is what it takes to get to where you want to be,
- 7:47over and over and over and just passing down, passing down, passing down.
- 7:50And now a Mecca Buka is going to be back for another year to
- 7:53help, you know, continue that tradition, but also passing it down to
- 7:58Arnell Tait, Brandan Innos as you meant, Jeremiah Smith coming in this year,
- 8:01Milon Graham come in in later this year. It just feels like that
- 8:03torch is just sort of getting passed now from Marvin Harrison and a Mecca Abuca
- 8:09to a Mecca Aboka and some of those younger guys in that roop. Right,
- 8:13So you can sit there and you can look to what's happening on the
- 8:16field of the Woody really on any given day, and then you can also
- 8:20look at what's happening those eighteen Sundays during football season during the NFL and see
- 8:26the results that are being put up. I mean, we saw Terry McLaurin.
- 8:33It took until the last minutes of the Commander's season for him to hit
- 8:35one thousand yards to be the first player for the Commanders I think to have
- 8:39four one thousand yard receiving seasons. We saw Chris o'lave and Garrett Wilson,
- 8:45I mean, the heck, with all of the issues that the Jets had,
- 8:48Garrett Wilson still getting to one thousand yards, Jackson Smith and Jigba Seattle
- 8:52finally figures out what to do with him. I mean, he's I mean,
- 8:54he's blowing up right now at this point. I mean, all of
- 8:58these guys have taken the torch from from Michael Thomas, who may be on
- 9:01the you know, the decline of his career. I mean he's been out
- 9:05for a while. And then you sit there and you see a mecha Buka
- 9:09being out there, and I mean, I think we'll probably see Rehees Stocksdale
- 9:13out there for every day forever. I mean I don't. I mean,
- 9:16he was always the guy that was out there with Marvin Harrison Junior. We'll
- 9:20see who it is that a Mecca is going to be able to bring out,
- 9:22and you're going to have guys that are going to take to that culture,
- 9:28that are going to have all of that free time out there working on
- 9:31their craft. And you mentioned Jeremiah Smith, and nobody takes their game quite
- 9:35as seriously as Jeremiah Smith that I've seen coming directly out of high school.
- 9:39I got to cover Jeremiah a lot closer than I got to cover Marvin Harrison
- 9:43Junior, just based on where my recruiting travels take me. I have no
- 9:48doubt that Jeremiah Smith is probably going to break another Monarch machine and they're going
- 9:52to have to get Monarch three point zero because of just overuse. And it's
- 9:58it, and it's going to be something that just goes on and on and
- 10:01on and on and you I mean, and that's how you end up becoming
- 10:05blank position you by having that type of culture, that type of lead by
- 10:09example and passing it on and a Mecca Abuka will be there this year to
- 10:13pass it on. It looked for a while he had that injury, that
- 10:16ankle injury last year, missed a bunch of times, just didn't seem like
- 10:20he was ever one hundred percent again at the end of the year, and
- 10:24there was a time when I thought it's really too bad. In twenty twenty
- 10:28two, you had Jackson Smith, a Jigma have that injury and just kind
- 10:31of never end up getting back on the field and being one hundred percent,
- 10:35And just what a missed opportunity that was to see Jackson spith a Jigma and
- 10:37Marvin Harrison and Mecca Obuka together and then Ameica Oboka misses I mean functionally what
- 10:43almost half of the season in terms of either being hurt or not being one
- 10:46hundred percent. And it was like, man, another year where you had
- 10:50the what if at wide receiver for Ohio State. Well, now Amecica book
- 10:54is coming back. You know, the wide receiver room is a position where
- 10:56you never really worry about Ohio State being shorthand or not having enough talent.
- 11:03If you look at the numbers, though there's not as many bodies in there
- 11:07as there typically are now. The guys that are in there are top,
- 11:11top, top drawer guys. But you don't have ten twelve ready to go
- 11:18wide receivers in that room right now because you've had a lot of guys transfer
- 11:20out. So it feels like getting a Mecca at Buka back might be kind
- 11:24of a sneaky big deal for the twenty twenty four buck guys. You're right,
- 11:28I think if you look at the amount of production that has left.
- 11:31I mean, obviously, with Marvin Harrison Junior being the guy, the reigning
- 11:37Bolitnikoff winner for the nation's top wide receiver, it's it's a big hit.
- 11:41And then in terms of bodies, when you lose Julian Fleming, you lose
- 11:46Rogers and Rogers to the transfer portal, Brandon and Noah no relation. You
- 11:50know you're losing a lot at that point. And I mean you mean even
- 11:54the production of Cade Stover going out the going out the door as well.
- 11:58So being able to bring a guy like a Mecca is a big get for
- 12:03Ohio State as they are breaking in a new old quarterback in Will Howard,
- 12:09somebody who has a lot of experience playing college football is not played a single
- 12:13down in the Scarlett and Gray for Ohio State. But that is a tremendous
- 12:16safety net to have as you still be able to bring out guys like Tate
- 12:22and Ennis and Jeremiah Smith and Milon Graham and what have you. There,
- 12:26but the rotation certainly is much more thin. And dare I say, if
- 12:31Ohio State lost at Mecca Buca, could you imagine Ohio State actually having to
- 12:35go to the portal to bring in maybe a little bit of veteran leadership for
- 12:39the room. That would have been a very real possibility, just because that
- 12:43room gets really young in you know immediately, yeah, it is, it
- 12:50is. The talent has never questioned. The depth is you know, couldn't
- 12:52have been a question. It seems like that's probably not as much of an
- 12:56issue now with Abuka back. I just sort of this as we're recording shows,
- 13:01I'm just sort of reflexively checking Twitter every thirty seconds or so just to
- 13:03make sure we haven't had any other NFL draft declarations. So far, so
- 13:09good. Still waiting on running back Trevian Henderson, Still waiting on defensive end
- 13:13JT. Twoey Moloow. That kind of the last two big pieces to the
- 13:16puzzle for Ohio State for twenty twenty four. Will they be back? Will
- 13:20they head off the NFL? We'll be back, I'm I'm sure not very
- 13:24long from now, five minutes from now, twenty four hours from now,
- 13:26who knows. Whenever it happens, we'll be here to tell you all about
- 13:30it. And boy it is this is a quite a team taking shape for
- 13:35the Buckeyes in twenty twenty four, with a whole lot of juniors coming back
- 13:39so far, only Marvin Harrison junior and Mike Hall declaring for the NFL.
- 13:46That's it. That's all the all from the underclassmen declaring for the NFL.
- 13:50So a lot of talent potentially coming back for the Buckeyes and it could be
- 13:52a very very special, very exciting twenty twenty four season. We would love
- 13:56to share that season with you at buckeyehuddle dot com. That's where Kevin,
- 14:00an Toni and I covered the team. Mark covering recruiting has been a very
- 14:03busy recruiting week. Some potential decisions from some very very highly ranked targets coming
- 14:09soon for the Buckeyes that could be in the coming days and weeks. You're
- 14:13gonna want to make sure you were up to speed on all that stuff.
- 14:15Mark has been working overtime this week, cranking out a ton of content with
- 14:18a lot of insight and analysis on some of those decisions that could be coming
- 14:22and it would be a pretty good month for the Ohio State recruiting team.
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- 15:03great day. We will talk to you tomorrow.