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LNC Celebrates the End of the Strike · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nerdron Collider, the podcast
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  Speaker 1: that's all about the geeky things happening in the world
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  Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Castin, and with me as always is the
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  Speaker 1: super awesome, amazing, wonderful Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Happy post strike, Ariel.
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  Speaker 1: Happy post strike. So yeah, the strike is technically over
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  Speaker 1: right now. The pickets are all shut down. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: National Review Board, I still think, has to look at,
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  Speaker 1: review and approve the new agreement between sag AFTRA and AMPTP.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing that as of us recording this. But if
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  Speaker 1: all goes well and everybody votes for the updated agreement,
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  Speaker 1: then we are golden.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and already people, it's like the floodgates opened. Already,
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  Speaker 2: people are promoting the heck out of upcoming projects because
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  Speaker 2: of course they had been silent for this whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone is now treating this as essentially just a formality
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  Speaker 2: for those signatures and everything else is good to go.
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  Speaker 2: So we thought we would follow a suit and do
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  Speaker 2: a kind of a segue episode back into the way
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  Speaker 2: we used to do things, not fully yet, because we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have all the time the reason why we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have enough time to really flesh this out, as one
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  Speaker 2: we were still waiting on the outcome of the strike,
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  Speaker 2: and two, Ariel's got this big old calamity facing her
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  Speaker 2: this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Weird West larp that I've been playing
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  Speaker 1: is having its final game, which I thought I was
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  Speaker 1: ready for. But honestly, as I'm like packing up my
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  Speaker 1: costumes for the last time, I got a little missed,
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  Speaker 1: ye eyed. I'm sure it'll be worse to after, although
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  Speaker 1: worse after not worst, maybe mold though, I do you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on discord with all of my LARP friends and
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  Speaker 1: we will stay in touch and we'll still do other
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  Speaker 1: things together. But there's no new game on the horizon
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  Speaker 1: right now from that group. There there are some of
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  Speaker 1: our friends who who've played and been on staff for
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  Speaker 1: a rule of three who are starting a new game
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of years, but that's a year or two,
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  Speaker 1: but that's a ways off yet, so just yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and myself, that larp is called calamity, which is
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  Speaker 2: why I was referencing the fact that she's got a
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  Speaker 2: big old calamity ahead of hers. She doesn't have, like,
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  Speaker 2: as far as I know, any looming disasters. I certainly
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  Speaker 2: hope not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean in the game, yes we are, I said,
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  Speaker 1: so each season we've been fighting one of like the
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  Speaker 1: big bad has been like one of there have been
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  Speaker 1: so many big bads because we've got like Cathulian ritual lists,
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  Speaker 1: We've got like card playing, crossroad demon magic people, We've
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  Speaker 1: got gods and demons and monsters, and it's it's a
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  Speaker 1: scary it's supposed to be a scary, weird West sort
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  Speaker 1: of a thing. And so this year we've been fighting
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  Speaker 1: one of the horsemen of the apocalypse every year, and
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  Speaker 1: so this year is death.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean it's got to be the last one, right, So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I mean that's kind of a calamity.
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  Speaker 1: We started off with a big world changing event and
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  Speaker 1: if we win or if we lose, in the world
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  Speaker 1: of the game, it'll be a big world changing event.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, fun, Well, that's that's exciting. And since you
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  Speaker 2: still have a lot of packing to do, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to move this right along. We do not have a
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds or less because we didn't really have the
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  Speaker 2: time to dive into that. Like usually we actually come
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  Speaker 2: up with which which news items fall into that category
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  Speaker 2: and then we divide up who gets what and all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And then we ignore it completely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, some of us. Some of us script it
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  Speaker 2: out so that we get because some of us are
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  Speaker 2: very bad at sticking to thirty seconds unless we script
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  Speaker 2: it out. And by some of us, I mean me.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't script it out because I'm super like
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  Speaker 2: meticulous or anything. I do it because if I don't,
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  Speaker 2: this is what happens. What you're hearing right now, that's
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  Speaker 2: what happens.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not giving you crap because I've been really bad
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  Speaker 1: before the strike. I was really bad about it myself.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, no, this is your thirty seconds
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  Speaker 1: or less, but I have to talk about it so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's different though. That's where you're chiming in because
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this made me think of this other
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  Speaker 2: thing as opposed to this is my item in thirty
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  Speaker 2: seconds or less, and now I'm going to spend the
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  Speaker 2: next four and a half minutes talking about it, Like
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  Speaker 2: that's the problem I have.
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  Speaker 1: Cool, Well, real quick before we jump in instead of
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  Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less, Real quick, before we jump into
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  Speaker 1: our news stories. Have you watched anything or done anything
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  Speaker 1: that you haven't been able to talk about recently that
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  Speaker 1: you'd like to be like, yeah, this is cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean like, yeah, Mostly it's all the Halloween stuff
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  Speaker 2: where I was watching lots of spooky movies and most
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  Speaker 2: of them are several years old obviously, so like Trick
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  Speaker 2: or Treat, I rewatched twice this past season, which is unusual.
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  Speaker 2: But one of those two times was the television broadcast
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  Speaker 2: version of Trick or Treat, which is very tame in
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  Speaker 2: comparison to the theatrical cut. I watched it Follows, which is
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite, very sad horror movies. It's a
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  Speaker 2: great horror movie, but I don't think it hit me
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  Speaker 2: how sad it is the first time I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: When I rewatched it, I was like, wow, this is
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  Speaker 2: making me feel things. And then Summer of eighty four,
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  Speaker 2: which is a horror movie that came out a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago that was kind of cashing in on that
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  Speaker 2: same eighties nostalgia that Stranger Things did, an it like
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  Speaker 2: those sorts of things very much in that same vein,
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  Speaker 2: very very mired and rooted in the eighties, but an
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  Speaker 2: interesting film with I guess it's all I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 2: because I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who
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  Speaker 2: hasn't seen it. It is available on streaming so you
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  Speaker 2: can find it, So how about you.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched so like, I watched some new TV, actually
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  Speaker 1: not only one of it I would consider geeky. So
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  Speaker 1: we watched White Lotus, which was kind of too dark
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  Speaker 1: for me. I just I found it hard to like
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  Speaker 1: the people in it and it was kind of depressing.
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  Speaker 1: But I watched The Bear, which is like up there
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  Speaker 1: on my top favorite shows right now, Doom Patrol. Just
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  Speaker 1: I started watching the second half of the last season
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  Speaker 1: of Doom Patrol. I'm not caught up. They just released
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  Speaker 1: their series finale, so I'm trying to catch up to that.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been watching Barry, which we all know you love,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm in the part of season three where it's
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  Speaker 1: starting to get really sad.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, season three is hard. Yeah, it definitely starts
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  Speaker 2: to feel like a big tonal shift, especially from season one.
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  Speaker 2: Although season season one had its heavy moments too, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but man, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting too worse worse, right, So I've got a lot let.
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  Speaker 2: Me tell you, Season three is hard. Season four at
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  Speaker 2: times is excruciating in a great way like it's excruciating
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  Speaker 2: because it's done so well, and by that time you're
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  Speaker 2: so invested in characters, even characters as you're sitting there
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  Speaker 2: thinking I should not care about this person. They are terrible,
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  Speaker 2: and yet you still feel yourself caring for them. It's
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  Speaker 2: pretty phenomenal, or at least it was for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like it because everything that they talk about
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  Speaker 1: on the acting side, I mean, I've heard it all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, see that. That makes me wonder if you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: like season four as much because they really get away
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  Speaker 2: from the acting side by the time you get to
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  Speaker 2: season four, like that that has become much less of
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  Speaker 2: a thing by the time you're at season four.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I I honestly, I kind of like the
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the the stark, semi reality of the acting side,
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  Speaker 1: but I find the Hitman stuff more entertaining. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's because it's less personally depressing for me
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  Speaker 1: and more generally depressing, or if it's just I can
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  Speaker 1: lose myself in that story more because it's not a
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  Speaker 1: world that I'm in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I will say that Kusino's story does still have
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  Speaker 2: some of the acting world stuff wrapped up in it
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  Speaker 2: by the time you get to season four, and that
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  Speaker 2: is Kusino and oh, what's Stephen Root's character's name? Fus,
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  Speaker 2: I watch it there, lay Fuchs. Yeah, Fuchs and Kusino
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  Speaker 2: are are kind of like to me, Fuchs, Kusno and
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  Speaker 2: No Hank are the highlights of season four. Oh gotcha,
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  Speaker 2: but it's yeah, I'll be curious to hear what you
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  Speaker 2: think once you've made your way through the whole series.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: So apart from those, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I started watching Loki, but I haven't finished. And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch a psocas. Please don't at me, people,
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  Speaker 1: I just my my husband doesn't have interest in a PSOCA,
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  Speaker 1: so I have to find time to watch it on
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  Speaker 1: my own. And I've been watching actual places.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, I haven't watched any of those, Like, I haven't
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  Speaker 2: watched so. I never saw the Obi Won series, So
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  Speaker 2: I'm that's how far And I did did a There
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  Speaker 2: was a season three of The Mandalorian, was there.
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  Speaker 1: I I think? So? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I then I haven't seen that, so like I think,
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  Speaker 2: I just I got to a point where I was
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  Speaker 2: definitely fed up with Star Wars, Like even the good
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  Speaker 2: stuff I was fed up with. But I definitely didn't
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  Speaker 2: want any more bad stuff, like stuff I just found
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  Speaker 2: to be like exasperating. But that meant that even the
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  Speaker 2: good stuff I was tired of. So I just I
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  Speaker 2: kind of stopped, and I'm right there. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: this a little bit today, but I'm right there with
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  Speaker 2: superheroes too, Like I am real close. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's because I'm burnt out on superheres necessarily. I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm burnt out on the way superhero stories have
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  Speaker 2: been told. In the most recent several outings of superhero stories,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think they've been very satisfying. And I
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  Speaker 2: think part of the problem is that for Marvel anyway,
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  Speaker 2: is that they're trying to continue to build on something
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  Speaker 2: that was a huge payoff in Infinity War, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that was a mistake. I think instead of building
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  Speaker 2: they should have probably taken a big step back and
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  Speaker 2: started to establish stuff again. Instead of making everything like
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  Speaker 2: this world threatening or even universe threatening opponent that you
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  Speaker 2: have to face down again and again and again. That
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  Speaker 2: just gets exhausting. Like I would love some street level
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  Speaker 2: hero action.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're getting some of that. We're getting that
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  Speaker 1: with Echo, we got that with Miss Marvel and you know,
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  Speaker 1: as far as getting it, we did talk about before
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  Speaker 1: the strike, how Kevin Feige said. Feig someday I will remember,
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  Speaker 1: said that they needed to step back and put some
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  Speaker 1: more space and breadth in between their superhero stories and
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  Speaker 1: TV shows and make sure that they're different enough from
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  Speaker 1: each other so maybe you'll get your.
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  Speaker 2: Wish well, and they're kind of being forced to in
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  Speaker 2: the short term. And that's our first story, is that
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  Speaker 2: the strike obviously put delays in production all up and
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  Speaker 2: down slates us all the different studios. Disney obviously famous
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  Speaker 2: for announcing big, ambitious slates way ahead of time, and
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  Speaker 2: Marvel is the key example of that. They've done it
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  Speaker 2: with Star Wars two, but Marvel is like the poster
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  Speaker 2: child for this. Well, now the Verge reports and the
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Reporter reports that Disney has had to shuffle that
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  Speaker 2: release schedule quite a bit, and it means right now
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  Speaker 2: that twenty twenty four is only going to have one
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  Speaker 2: Marvel Superhero live action film released in it, like one
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  Speaker 2: actual Marvel one. We're not talking about Sony here, and
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  Speaker 2: that is Deadpool three, And.
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  Speaker 1: It is just weird to think of as Marvel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we knew that they were moving it over
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  Speaker 2: into the Marvel universe somehow, although the details of how
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  Speaker 2: that was going to happen had been somewhat hidden. I
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  Speaker 2: understand that there might be a hint of this, like
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  Speaker 2: of the answer of what's going on in the Marvels,
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  Speaker 2: But I have not yet seen the Marvels. I just
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  Speaker 2: have unfortunately not been able to avoid all the spoilers.
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  Speaker 1: So I have avoided all spoilers on that. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: We could talk about it now, but it's later in
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  Speaker 1: our show notes. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it then anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we can chat about rafter this anyway. But
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  Speaker 2: so Deadpool three was supposed to come out on May
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  Speaker 2: third of next year. Now it's going to be July
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixth. There was a different movie that was going
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  Speaker 2: to be out on July twenty sixth, that was Captain
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  Speaker 2: America Brave New World with the Falcon version of Captain America.
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  Speaker 2: Now that has been pushed to Valentine's Day of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. Blade, which has been delayed numerous times for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years now, was supposed to come out
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  Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day twenty twenty five. Now it's been pushed
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  Speaker 2: to November seventh, twenty twenty five, and thunder Bolts was
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  Speaker 2: pushed from the end of next year to July twenty fifth,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Which is interesting to me that again, Blade,
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  Speaker 2: which was supposed to come out before Thunderbolts, is now
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  Speaker 2: going to be coming out at the end of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five, So it's coming out after Thunderbolts now, which
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  Speaker 2: just tells you that there's just been a lot of
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  Speaker 2: issues behind the scenes in the production of Blade, which
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  Speaker 2: we knew about. Like we've heard that that script essentially
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  Speaker 2: got sent to rewrites, like drastic rewrites before the strike
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  Speaker 2: even happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe. I mean, I hope that this is good.
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  Speaker 1: I hope this gives them time to adjust their stories. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: we still don't will make them successful.
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  Speaker 2: We still don't know what they're going to do in
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  Speaker 2: the wake of the ongoing Jonathan Major's legal scan. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that means they're going to have to
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  Speaker 2: recast Kang. We don't know if that means they're going
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  Speaker 2: to abandon Kang as the big bad for the end
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  Speaker 2: of the next phase. If they do, then phases four, five,
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  Speaker 2: and six. I don't think you're ever going to come
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  Speaker 2: out of this looking back on phases four, five, and
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  Speaker 2: six of the whole Marvel timeline as being anything other
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  Speaker 2: than a chaotic mess. I just I don't think there's
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  Speaker 2: any way for them to totally save it. I think
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  Speaker 2: they can make it entertaining. I think, especially if they
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  Speaker 2: take a little more time crafting their stories and maybe
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  Speaker 2: spending less time trying to make everything a big blue
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  Speaker 2: laser shoots up in the sky and you got to
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  Speaker 2: stop it. I think if they do that, then people
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  Speaker 2: can look back on the films of the second half
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  Speaker 2: of those phases and be like nostalgic for them and
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  Speaker 2: enjoy them. But man, you look at some of the
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  Speaker 2: ones that have come out over the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: years and like, they are not a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: high spots, at least not in the movies. Like I
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  Speaker 2: did like the Marvel Miss Marvel series, and I liked
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  Speaker 2: you know, WandaVision, and I even like Falcon and the
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  Speaker 2: Winter Soldier, and I liked Hawkeye, but the movies have
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  Speaker 2: been a different story. Loki another good one. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: haven't liked the.
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  Speaker 1: Mood liked much. I liked Moonnight too, Honestly, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't a giant laser. That was a giant giant
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  Speaker 1: beast gods, which is kind of different.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, the series are also different because you
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  Speaker 2: can actually have a lot more happen in the course
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  Speaker 2: of like, you know, eight to twelve hours than you
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  Speaker 2: can in a movie. And people have been complaining that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the Marvel movies feel bloated anyway, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're long, but they're stretches where you feel like not
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  Speaker 2: much is happening. And from what I understand, the Marvels
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  Speaker 2: does not have that problem because it is significantly shorter
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  Speaker 2: than a lot of more recent Marvel films have been.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go ahead and about the Marbles. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's got it's only like fifty percent critically positive, it's
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  Speaker 1: eighty six percent audience positive. Everybody that I know that
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  Speaker 1: has seen it has really enjoyed it. They've compared it
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  Speaker 1: to like Guardians of the Galaxy, and yeah, like it's
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  Speaker 1: an hour and a half, right, So I would much
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  Speaker 1: rather have the problem going. Oh man, I wish a
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  Speaker 1: couple of these points had been flushed out a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more over, like.
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  Speaker 2: Mortals or I don't even know Eternals.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the Eternals, where I'm just like, this is
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  Speaker 1: just way way too much.
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  Speaker 2: No, the Eternals. I was left sitting there thinking like,
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  Speaker 2: what was the point of telling this out of chronological order?
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  Speaker 2: Because it didn't nothing. Nothing that was revealed was particularly surprising,
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  Speaker 2: and it was more confusing and less satisfying this way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I have seen a lot of our friends, our mutual friends,
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  Speaker 2: who have seen The Marbles say very good things about it.
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  Speaker 2: But I also imagine that those are folks who have
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  Speaker 2: already seen, for example, the Miss Marvel series or the
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  Speaker 2: WandaVision series, which means they already know about Monica Rambo
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  Speaker 2: because they saw her in WAND Division, And they already
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  Speaker 2: know about Kamala Khan because they saw her in Miss Marvel.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're going into this and you haven't watched
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  Speaker 2: any of the streaming series, I could imagine it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be very jarring because you're being introduced to characters
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  Speaker 2: that the film is sort of assuming you already know
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  Speaker 2: who they are, and that could be really that can
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  Speaker 2: really throw you off if you hadn't been watching the
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  Speaker 2: streaming series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I have, so I'm excited for it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I am too, except for the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I worry that this. I mean, we know that Marvel
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  Speaker 2: is trying to take a slightly different approach, Like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that they're starting to introduce, like
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the Echo series is a stand alone kind of been
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: off of the main Marvel branch, so it's not going
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to be as integrated into everything else the way they
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: have been doing. And I think that might be it
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: might be a good idea. It might be a good
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: idea for them to do that, because it's gotten so
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: large now that for you to it feels like you
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: have to do homework before you can go see a
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Marvel movie or else you're going to be in the dark.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: And that is not probably the best way to make
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: a big box office splash.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So that's that's true. That being said, the homework to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: do for this movie, for the Marvels is not that much.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You've got like half a TV series for Monica, right,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You've got one series for for Miss Marvel and then
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. I don't know if they didn't put her
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in a lot of stuff because of the reception to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: her first movie, which I thought was fine, or if
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: because she's just so overpowered that you just you have
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to like only call her in occasionally or else it
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: gets ridiculous.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you don't have a problem because she can
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: immediately defeat the battle.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so she hasn't been in a lot. So these
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: these are all characters who are like almost standalone, And
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Kamala didn't really Kamala kon Miss Marvel didn't really cross
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: over with much of the other universe anyhow, So not yet.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I'm like, I really do look forward to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: seeing it because one because I think the Kamala Khan
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: character is incredibly charming and and I really I want
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: to see more of that that character. So I'm very
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: excited to see it. I'm not trying to like poo
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: poo all over Marvel here. I'm just I have concerns.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I've also seen, I mean, we've talked about this before.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I've also seen obviously no shortage of bad takes of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: mostly dudes out there saying how Kamala Khan ruined Marvel
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and all that kind of mess, which is just absolutely
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: ridiculous and indicative that these are very entitled people, Like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I get, I get not liking something, and that's totally legit.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: But there's a difference between saying I didn't like this
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and this has been ruined, because that now you're making
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a declaration that should be applicable across the entire fandom.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Right everyone would say, oh it's ruined. It's clearly not ruined.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: There are people who really enjoy it. Just because you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: don't like something doesn't mean it's bad exactly.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I want more things to go the route of Miss Marvel,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: because that makes you that's enjoyable, that's actually fun.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cool with it too, Like I really enjoyed
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that series, so I do want to see it. Hopefully
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: i'll see it before too long. But we've got some
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: other stuff to chat about. One of those is the
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: man whose name Ariel cannot pronounce, Kevin Figi, and I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: just gonna say his name. No, I'm gonna say his
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: name differently every time, so he'll never know. So Kevin
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Feige helmed it was supposed to helm a Star Wars movie.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: This was something that was being talked about a couple
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of years ago that when they were talking about all
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: these different Star Wars plans they had, there were a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: couple of different filmmakers who were given the nod to
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: write or direct or both an upcoming Star Wars movie,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and one by one those have kind of fallen through,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and Kevin fiej his one has also followed in that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: that trend they never really got beyond kind of just
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: a wouldn't it be cool if you wanted to do this?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: He said, yes, that would be cool, but never apparently
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: went much further than that, and now it's just not
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: on the table anymore.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: This is one of those things that kind of if
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I learned about it, I completely forgot what was going
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to happen, maybe because I was said that the Rhan
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Johnson trilogy wasn't happening, which.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You know's supposed to do one too.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was supposed to do Rogue Squadron.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have been interested in that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: At the same time, I wasn't super happy with Wonder
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Woman eighteen nineteteen eighty four something, and uh.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: You know, one actor strike and now Aeriel can't name
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: any geeky properties.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, it's interesting because we did get
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: hit with a bunch of like trailers as like you said,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it's everything is flooded as soon as the strike was
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: over stuff that I like completely slipped my radar because
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I've still been reading news even though I haven't been
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: like entertainment news, even though I haven't been talking about it,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and we've got a mass of things that I was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: just like, that's a thing. That's a thing I didn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: know about that, even if like the media reports on it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: If you don't have that you're you were saying earlier, Jonathan,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: if you don't have the the the talent behind it
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: also promoting it, it doesn't get as much, it doesn't
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: make as many ways.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, the talent being part of marketing these films.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It's clear how important that is now that the strike
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is over, because like some of my favorite promotional moments
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: for films came from you know, stars doing a press
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: junket and having really fun interviews, often with a gimmick
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: like yeah, you're being interviewed, but you're also telling us
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: what you think of these snacks like that kind of stuff.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And the fact that that was off the table for
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: months really I think hurt a lot of the marketing efforts.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of which, I absolutely love the Barbie movie,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: which I don't think I was able to talk about
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: on the show because I saw it after the strike started.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Who I enjoyed it too, I very much had. I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: had a really good time watching it, and I expected
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I would like it, but it really was thoroughly entertaining.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I very much enjoyed it. Still need to see Oppenheimer, though.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't. I haven't watched that either. It's just
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: so long.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Well, it's also heavy stuff, right, Like I mean, you're
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, atomic bombs and that stuff. Let's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: talk about something that's less heavy. Let's talk about a
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: supporting character in a Charles Dickens novel who's got his
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: own series.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, The Artful Dodger is coming to Disney Plus, which
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: watching the trailer is not at all what I expected
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: from it. Kind of.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, first of all, I think it's only on
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Disney Plus in Australia. I think here. I think here
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: in America it's gonna be on Hulu. But we'll have
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a story later that talks about why in a few months.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: That's not really gonna mean anything, but anyway, Yeah, it's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: set in Australia, which I did not know until I
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: looked into it further, I didn't realize, like oh, it's
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: supposed to be in Australia, but yeah, this is this
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: is the artful Dodger who is Oliver Twist's friend, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: he's a pickpocket and he's like the chief pickpocket in
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Fagan the the the thief master type character in Oliver Twist.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He's like the top thief out of all of Fagan's boys.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And in the series he is a young man, he's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: not a child anymore, and a doctor at least posing
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: as one. It's interesting because like you know, he's he's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: performing like a surgeon, which is a weird Yankovic song.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But no, he's performing like a surgeon, which historically he
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: could get away with because surgeons and physicians were two
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: very different professions. If you were a physician, you were
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: medically educated and you would be addressed as doctor. If
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you were a surgeon, you were essentially a barber and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you would be referenced as mister. So if he's coming
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: across as if he's posing as a surgeon, he could
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: really get away with that, especially in Australia in the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds. But yeah, yeah, you know, you see him
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: encounter his old crime buddy Fagan, who has also shown Up,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: played by David Thulis, and I have to say, like,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I watched this trailer. I watched it expecting, especially once
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I saw how old Dodger was. I watched it expecting
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to hate it. I did not. I thought it was
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: pretty charming.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I also think it was charming. And it's interesting you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: said you saw how old he was in the poster
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for or like the little screenshot of it posters maybe
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the wrong word. I thought that the art for Everybody
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: looked super young, and I thought it was gonna be
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like another young teeny bopper thing but with an Oliver
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: twist haha. But no, like he goes between looking like
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: he's the artful Dodger goes between looking like he's twelve
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and like he's thirty five.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I agree. It's it looks cute. There's
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: an obvious love interest thrown him there, and I'm sure
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of him trying to navigate
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: like Fagan wanting to pull him back into a life
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: of crime, his current profession likely being only somewhat legitimate.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I'm eager to see it. Looks like it's gonna be fun,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I hope that it is. Once it starts
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to stream at the end of this month.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Another thing that we got a trailer for was Ghostbus two.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, Ghostbusters two, Winter is Coming.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Winter is Coming, which is really interesting because we had
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: barely heard that it was being done before the strike happened,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and now there's a trailer out.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it looks like The Day After Tomorrow mixed
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: with Ghostbusters plus like a little bit of Game of
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Thrones because you want you expect the Night King to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: come out in any second.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so maybe if you watch the trailer, maybe
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: he does. Uh uh. It's it's interesting because my husband
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: watched the trailer and said, it doesn't it looks good.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I like that they're doing something kind of different. But
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: also it doesn't feel like Ghostbusters to me, and I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: watch Alma feels perfectly ghostbusteries to me, ghostbusteries, Ghostbustery.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard for me to say if something
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: looks really Ghostbusters ish to me because there's only the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: one movie, and so it's hard to there's no what
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, there's like, what's the one? Where are you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Saying five movies?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: There's one movie, Ariel, there's one movie back in the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: back in the early nineteen eighties, and it was just
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the one movie.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: There's the three, and then there's also the all female version,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and then there's Afterlife, and now there's this one. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that's six movies.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: You must have slipped through one of those one of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: those multiverse dimensions. There are just the one movie.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going back there then, because I liked. I liked.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: There's at least two Ghostbusters. I thought there were three,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: but there's at least two.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: There's okay, if you're talking about the original cast, there
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: are two. Then you had then you had the the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the remake, the all the all women remake. Then you
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: had the the more recent After Life Ghostbusters After Life,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: so you could argue that's the third for the original two.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Than now you've got this one. But you know, I
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: still haven't watched After Life. I tried to watch the
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Ghostbusters and it was not for me.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: The twenty sixteen Ghostbusters the shining. The shining part of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that was thor as the Secretary.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it. I don't think I
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: even got that far. It's just it was not for me,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: which is fine. Again, I'm not saying the movie's bad.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I'm saying I did not enjoy it, but the yeah,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I watched this trailer and I thought, eh, it's you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: nothing about this is upsetting me. Necessarily, it's coming across
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: maybe a little more like it's trying to be a
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: little more serious than what you would normally associate because
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: like Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters was essentially a bunch of
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: schlubby guys being exterminators. They're just ghost exterminators, and so
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: it was very much comedy first and then everything else second.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's the same tone you get
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: with the two most recent Ghostbuster movies.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: So the most recent Ghostbusters movie, you absolutely get that
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: tone because most of it is referencing the original movie.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: So After Life is largely references to things that you
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: loved previously. But I really loved the cast of Afterlife
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and I thought it had some really great some of
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the original moments were really good. So I look forward
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to this new movie. I hopek I hope it brings
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the joy that I have for Ghostbusters to a new generation.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Well, something else that we saw it actually came out
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: a little more than a week ago now, was a
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: trailer for Lisa Frankenstein, which I think Ariel and Night
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: booked about a while ago. Yeah, we talked about when
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it was in development, but now we've got we've seen
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: a trailer for it, and I think both you and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I had sort of similar reactions to this where it
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: was again, wasn't quite the tone we were expecting.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when when it was being talked about in development.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: So it is a It is written by the individual
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: who wrote Juno and Jennifer's Body, and it's directed by
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Zelda Robbins, who is William Robinson's William Robbins his daughter.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Lord.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I can't pluralize anything today or possessive anything.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: How do you say Kevin's last name?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Look? Kfiji, k fabe, k fabe. It's I'm going on
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a quick buddy trail. It's amazing. Tony and I watched
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: The FP a long time ago, as everybody knows, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: now he sees Jason Trost and Jason Trost's brother's name
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: everywhere and he's like, whoa, they're involved in this. I'm like,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they do a lot of like filmmaking that is not
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the FP and all superheros must I do a lot
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of stuff anyhow. Yeah, So rob Zelda Williams directed, and
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: it was it was supposed to feel like an old
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: eighties movie and it looks cute, but it doesn't quite
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: The trailer doesn't quite catch that vibe.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I don't have anything else to add
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to that, so I think, rather than that, I'll just
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: carry on. And I'm also calling an audible and I
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: figure we'll just do all the trailer stuff together and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: talk about mass effect after that. So okay, that means
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: next up. We also saw a trailer. Finally got a
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: trailer for the Netflix live action remake of Avatar the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Last Airbender, and I thought it looked pretty good. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: mean I say that as someone who did not get
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: into the original animated series. I should show it to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: my partner, because boy, howdy did she get into it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I should show it to her and see what her
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: reaction is.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I did watch the cartoon and joyed the cartoon.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: The trailer looks very pretty Honestly. You don't get to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: see a lot of the characters interacting. You just get
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to basically see live action character art and scenery art.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: You don't get to see a lot of plot. You
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: don't get to see a lot of acting in it yet,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: so I think it looks good so far. It definitely
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: hits as in like, oh, yes, this is this is
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the story that I loved just visually. But you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you don't get to see aang being a dork bucket.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: You don't get to see Sokka being a dork bucket.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't. You don't get to see m Night
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Shayamalan try to ruin the thing that you loved.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I yeah, that it wasn't great.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: No, my partner, My partner gave me a full rundown
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: after she came back. I did not go with her
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to watch it. She went with some of her friends
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: who were also fans of the show. And I didn't
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: understand about eighty percent of what she said because I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: didn't have the reference material. But I could tell it
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't good.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, My husband and I and his roomade at
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the time. I think we were all angry, and we
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: all like hate. Hate is too strong of a word,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: but for lack of a better term, like hate, dared
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: each other to watch it. So we all watched it together,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and none of us, from the very big fans to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the casual fan to the I don't like the cartoon
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a movie for no one.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it was for somebody.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: But the series looks like it could, at least from
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: a visual standpoint, be more faithful to the source material.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Here is hoping, But that's something we knew was coming out.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: You know what. I did not know Inside Out too
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: was a thing.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Neither did I. I still haven't seen Elemental, like I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: haven't seen the last Pixar film, you know, but I
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: did not know the Inside Out two was gonna be
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a thing. And this is a continuation of the story
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: from Inside Out. We're still with the same character and
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the same emotions. But it turns out that as you
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: get older, you get a little more complicated and maybe
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: you maybe you end up developing emotions that are in
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: addition to things like discussed anger, joy, sorrow, you know
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean you can have before puberty too,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you can have at a young young age.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But sure, I think what they're I think what they're
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: doing though, is the whole like like like emotional complexity
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: as you get older kind of storyline.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so the trailer looked okay.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: It was more of a teaser I think than anything else.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think it looked like it's kind of
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: like your typical Pixar teaser. It's just it's just giving
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: you a hint at what the story is going to be. Uh.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about this, only not
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: because so I'm not the biggest fan of Insight Out.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I thought it was fine. I didn't think it was bad,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't stand out as one of my favorite
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Pixar movies. And I don't know if I would have
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: rather had seen a completely original sort of world, because
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: arguably that's what Elemental was trying to be, and I
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: never felt the desire to actually go and see it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: So it could just be that I haven't seen something
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: from Pixar that has grabbed me the way say the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: original Toy Story movie did, or Finding Nemo or even
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Monsters Inc.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Monsters Inc. I loved Monsters Inc. And Finding
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Nemo Toy Story was my least favorite. I liked the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: second or third Toy Story better. I can't remember anyhow. Yeah,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I I haven't watched a lot of Pixar and Disney
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: animation lately. I need to again, It's just it's I
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: enjoy watching movies with other people, and if I'm going
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to sit and watch a movie by myself, I have
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to really be motivated to do it.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: So totally, yeah, I'm the same way, which is why
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm also way behind on various series and stuff,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: because most of it is stuff that my partner would
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: also like to watch, and it's just hard to find
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: time where we're both conscious and wanting to see something
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: because we work slightly different hours and it just means that,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: like it's when we do have that time, we might
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: want to do something else together rather than just sit
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and watch something. So that's the main reason why I'm way.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Behind, whereas my partner just is not motivated to watch
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: animation like he liked. I think the thing he liked
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: best most recently was Kung Fu Panda How to Train
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Your Dragon. He thought was okay, but like it's just
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: not his. He liked the older stuff, but it's not
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: like super his thing.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Got it well, something that should be my thing, except
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: that they didn't tell me that it was. That was
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: The Mean Girls, the musical trailer. And the reason why
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I say that something they didn't tell me is that
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: if you watch the trailer for Mean Girls the Musical.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You would be forgiven if after watching it you walked
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: away saying, huh, I thought that was supposed to be
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a musical.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: It's what I said when I walked away from the trailer,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: not knowing that there was going to be a Mean
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Girls movie, because that slipped my brain. I know, I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: learned it at some point. Yeah, there's like one dance
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: number in it, and it's kind of in the background.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: You it's not even fully realized within the trailer.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and they don't play any of the songs
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: from the musical. They have one lead in line. There's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a lead in line to the song revenge Party, which
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: is We're gonna make her Pay, and that leads right
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: into the song Revenge Party from Mean Girls the Musical,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and that's in the trailer. And when that line was
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wait, is this supposed to be
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the musical? I remember now they weren't they going to
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: make a movie of the musical version, like, because for
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: a while I just thought it was just literally a
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: remake of Mean Girls, you know, a straight up remake
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and not a musical remake. And it was only after
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I sat there for a bit where I realized, oh, no,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: this is supposed to be the musical, but for some reason,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: they're not including any of the singing and only a
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: little bit of the dancing, and it's dancing in a
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: way that you could think was supposed to be happening
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: within the world in a non musical fashion. So I
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: was really confused.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they didn't get to recording the singing
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: parts well before the strike.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Who knows, Well, that would be really weird for them
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to put a trailer like it would be more likely
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: they would delay the film.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Then I would think so too. I don't yeah, I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: don't know why they did what they did. It looks okay.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: It's got a great cast. It's got a really good cast.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, including an original member of the Broadway cast for
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Me and Girls is in it. And she's playing a teacher.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Now, is that Tina Fey?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: No, well, Tina Fey was in the original film and
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: is now in this one too, but she was not
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: in the Broadway cast.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: No. It was a creator of the Broadway show, wasn't she.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, she was the creator. She was a writer on
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the film, and she wrote the musical, and she's in
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the original film. And she's in the movie musical.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Film, technically involved in the musical, but not not on stage,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I mean a member of the cast.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, she was one of She originally played Gretchen Wiener's
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: in the Broadway cast, and now she's playing a teacher
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: in the movie adaptation of the musical.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is fun.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I guess we can go with the not the trailer
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: we're not getting before we talk about our one video
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: game thing.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about the Coyote Versus Acme.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which another movie that if I learned that it
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: was happening, I completely forgot.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, a feature length animated film about Wiley Coyote,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the Looney Tunes character who's always after the road Runner. Reportedly,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: this movie was essentially finished to the point where they
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: were showing it to test audiences and reportedly getting very
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: good reactions from those test audiences, and then Warner Brothers
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Discovery announced that it will not be releasing Coyote Versus
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Acme and instead will shelve it forever and take it
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: as another tax cut.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm kind of surprised because John Cena was
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: involved in that one, and they're keeping other of his things.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you this. David Zaslov doesn't care.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: He doesn't care.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I know. It's sad, I it is. It is unfortunate,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: especially since we just came out of a strike trying
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to get producers to care more.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not just not fair.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: There are there are individual producers who do care very much.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's the large, larger organization. Yeah, just because like
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: there was a there was a CW producer, writer or
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: director who during the strike was like, I'm giving money
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to actors because we need to we need to step up,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and but they didn't know. He didn't have sway in
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the negotiations.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's really disappointing because like it's not
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: that I was crying out for a a Coyote versus
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Acme film. I didn't even know it existed. But I
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: always liked seeing more animation. I love seeing animated films
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: come out. I love the Looney Tunes characters, and it
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: would be really fun to see a good Looney Tunes movie,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: not a space Jam, but a one. And it's just
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: really knowing how many people were spending years of their
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: lives putting this thing together, only to see the company
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: decide we're not going to show this to anyone because
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: we'd rather take a tax credit on it than to
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: actually release it. That is just so disheartening. It comes
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: across to me as cruel to all the creatives who
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: lent their time and talent to making it become a
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: thing and then just see it being treated as No,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: it's more valuable to have it as a tax credit
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: than for it to be a work of art.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. And on the other end of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the spectrum, we did get a trailer for Mass Effect
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: five on End seven Day, which was this week, and
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the hitches that the game may not It is being
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: estimated that the game may not come out until twenty
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: twenty nine.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at my calendar. That's a ways away it.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Is, and that's not an official release date from is
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: it BioWare? Yeah, that's just what other people are like
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: looking at other game release stuff. It is still in
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: early development. I think that first of all, the teeny
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: tiny little teaser we get looks beautiful. It looks beautiful,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and I already want to make the costume and I
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: know that I don't have that skill, but I know
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: some of our listeners do. So I look forward if
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: you guys make the costume. But I know that just
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: like a couple weeks or a month ago or something
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: like that. A couple months ago, we were talking about
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: how people were worried that the next mass Effect may
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: not even be a thing. So they're like, yes, this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: is still a thing. It's just still in development. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: while that's early to give a trailer, I would rather
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: them make sure that the game is ready to go
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and ready to be played and have a good experience,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: rather than rush because everybody wants it right now.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more along the lines of reassuring
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the fan base that this is not something that's just
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: in limbo. It's something that's actively being worked on. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: while I can understand that they didn't give a timeframe
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: of when it'll come out, because if it's in early development,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: you literally may not have a good solid idea of
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: when it'll come out, not even to the year right,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: because so much can happen. But maybe they should have
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: said this won't be coming out in the next few years,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: but we are working on it, just because otherwise you're
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: going to have We're gonna see the same thing we
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: always see, which is that every year that passes, people
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: are going to be like, so, where's the next mass Effect?
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Just like everyone always asks Rockstar, where's the next GTA?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Like when's that coming out? And it has to be
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know there are a lot of developers
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: out there who handle that really well that I am,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and that's got to get very frustrating when behind the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: scenes you can see how complicated the project is and
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: how everything needs to fit together properly for it to work,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: and from the outside you're just seeing time go by
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: and say, why isn't it out already?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, that's rough. We have just a couple
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: more stories about streaming networks in general to talk about
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: before the end of this episode, and one of which
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: is that Disney and Hulu. Disney Plus and Hulu are
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: combining next year.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had talked about this earlier this year,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: that this was a very likely thing to have happen.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I think even last spring we were talking about how
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: the general expectation was that by this winter we would
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: see Disney Plus and Hulu combine. Disney has been after
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the full purchase of Hulu for a while. Comcast has
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: held on to one third of Hulu and now Disney's
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: going to be paying like at least eight point six
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: billion dollars to get that one third of Hulu. From
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: what we understand, there will be a beta program where
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: people who are currently subscribed both to Disney Plus and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: to Hulu may get a chance to use the unified
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: streaming platform where they're able to access all the content
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: across both platforms in a single space. But that's a
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: beta and it's only going to be open to people
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: who are currently subscribed to both of those services, which
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: means I'm out because I still am not subscribed to Hulu.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I have to wait till next spring.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I will be interested to look at this because, yeah,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's figuring out how to content control things if
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you've got a family, because Hulu is not. There's a
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff that a Disney parent may not want
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: their kid to see.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: There's quite a bit of stuff on Disney Plus as well.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking about like the Daredevil series for examples.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I have started doing that I forgot. But also Echo
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: is going to be super dark. It looks more like
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the Netflix stairedubl than it looks like I've said this
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. Sorry, it looks more like the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Netflix Stairedvel than it does The recent Marvel TV show.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, Hawkeye that introduced Echo was far less graphic
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: in violence than even the teaser for Echo was.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm excited for the character. I guess we'll
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: see about about the violence. I don't know how I
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: feel about it yet. And the last thing we have
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: is if you are a Verizon customer, you might be
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: offered a Netflix Max bundle to help save you some money.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, as in Netflix and Max, the streaming service
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: what used to be called HBO Max, Verizon is apparently
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: considering this. As we're recording this, this is not yet
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: a thing, but they're apparently considering this bundle, which is
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: very very unusual because unlike Disney Hulu, which will both
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: be owned by Disney, Netflix and Max are not owned
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: by the same company. Right, You've got Netflix and you've
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: got Warner Brothers Discovery. But apparently Verizon is going to
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: offer this bundle where I think it's going to be
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: seventeen dollars a month or something like that for the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: ads supported versions of both Netflix and Max. So this
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: will have ads with it, but you would be able
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to get access to both catalogs for less than you
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: would if you were subscribed to each individually, and so
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of questions about whether or not
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: this is what we're going to see in the future,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: if we're going to see more bundles, which is weird
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: because it starts to get more and more like cable
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: like it starts to feel more like cable packages to me.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: And it's so funny because for the longest time, people
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: are looking at streaming as finally a way to disrupt
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: cable and to have a more consumer friendly approach to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: getting media, but that's not really been how it's panned
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: out over the years. With so many different streaming services,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: each with their own you know, library of exclusive content,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: it has made it very difficult to be a consumer.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well if again, if you're a Verrison customer,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: hopefully this pans out for you if you don't mind
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: ad supported content, which does help pay for your content
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: flat out, Like, if you don't want to pay those rates,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: you have to have the ads. So if you want
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: content to be made and not shelled for tax write offs,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: So that's it. Hopefully next week we will be back
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to the good and normal, our old, our old selves
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: with show notes and maybe even some mashups and things
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like that. You know, we are going into the Thanksgiving
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and Christmas holiday or you know, seasonal holidays. So Nathan
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and I haven't discussed schedules, but we will let you
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: know as soon as we know if there are any
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: upsets to our release schedule. Thank you for listening. And Jonathan,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: if they want to reach out to us and talk
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: about things that we haven't been able to talk about
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: in a while, how can they do so.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're gonna go on to your streaming box
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: whatever console or cable box, whatever you use your smart
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: TV to access streaming services. You're gonna have to go
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: into the little search field and you're gonna have to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: look for a streaming platform that was just launched this
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: week not many people know about. It's called Strictflicks. You
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: specifically want to get ads supported Strictflicks, And when you
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: do that, you're going to find out there's like nothing there,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Like there's literally no content there yet except for a
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: little little trailer. And when you select that trailer, an
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: ad is gonna play before the trailer. That's how kind
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: of crappy this new streaming service is remember strick flick
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: ad supported, and when you start watching that ad, it's
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: gonna be for a new documentary that's coming out. And
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the documentary is titled how to Say Kevin Feringi's last name?
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: And you're gonna watch that documentary. It is like a
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: four hour documentary and there's not a definitive pronunciation of
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: the last name until the very end of it. You
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: cannot skip forward because that AD supported layer there prevents
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: you from using fast forward, so you just got to
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: watch it. When you get to the end, you're gonna
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: hear that pronunciation, and as soon as you do, you're
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: gonna have access to an exclusive email straight to the
• 54:38
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• 54:42
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• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I have a few questions.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have to watch a four hour documentary.
• 54:49
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• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Area you'll able to sectary come out.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: You'll be able it's out now. Okay, Yeah, the ad
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: actually turns out it is the documentary.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: What if I, uh, what if I just do something
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: else until like the three hour and fifty five minute mark.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I mean you can I don't know how you're going
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: to be able to live with yourself, but sure.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. Also, also, this is an important question. You've already
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: answered two of my questions, so haha. But third question,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: why on strict flicks is our large Nerdron Collider web
• 55:22
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• 55:24
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• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't sign a deal for that one.
• 55:32
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• 55:36
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• 55:50
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• 55:53
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• 55:56
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• 56:11
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• 56:14
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• 56:16
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• 56:20
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