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3 Guys Before The Game - BYU Game Recap (Episode 664) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. It's time for three guys before the game.
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  Speaker 1: This is our post BYU game review. We're all assembled.
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  Speaker 1: Did you just get here? Judics get home? Just got back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a long walk. It was a long walk.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long flight.
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  Speaker 1: That was a long night for a bunch of different reasons.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into those and more coming up. This
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  Speaker 1: Conley's CPA will bring us spreads on stats coming up
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit. Brad has dissected the numbers, probably
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  Speaker 1: has a few more refined numbers than normal. Normally we record,
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  Speaker 1: you know, twelve ish hours after the game's over, but
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  Speaker 1: we are doing this Sunday morning. So have those numbers
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  Speaker 1: kind of like matured a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: You say, yeah, they came home, but some a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: little more sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool, all right. So West Virginia completes the
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  Speaker 1: half point of the season with a two and four
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  Speaker 1: overall record after a thirty eight to twenty loss to
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  Speaker 1: the Cougars of BYU. West Virginia went into the game
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  Speaker 1: it's first ever in provo, as a twenty ish point underdog,
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  Speaker 1: and they end up losing by a score thirty eight
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  Speaker 1: to twenty four. The Mountaineers trailed fourteen zip at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the first quarter. They were down twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: to ten at the break. West Virginia does outscore BYU
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  Speaker 1: fourteen to ten in the second half, but let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: for all intent and purposes, the game was decided in
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  Speaker 1: the opening half. We'll get into the numbers and more
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  Speaker 1: textual healing is coming up. A lot of people made
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  Speaker 1: the trip to Provo. There was a contingent of mountaineer fans,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of them have written in about the
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  Speaker 1: experience that they had. We'll get into those in textual healing.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a regular of this show, you know, things
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  Speaker 1: begin obviously with hobbies obvious observations. By the way, that
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  Speaker 1: is a very nice combo there. That shirt, that white
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  Speaker 1: with that star City blue over that old school logo.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty nice. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Brad gave me that from Final Looking film.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a delivery mechanism credit to Phil Nils.
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  Speaker 1: But I did get it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean just stuff. My swag just shows up, like
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  Speaker 2: Brad just show we show up somewhere and Brad just
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  Speaker 2: throws me short here wear this, Okay, I got it.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I'll were today for that reason.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, absolutely, all right. So obviously what do we know?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, well, first, it's rare that a w WU football
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  Speaker 2: game takes two days to play. It's like a cricket match,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Where it like goes on for days at
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  Speaker 2: a time.
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  Speaker 1: It did start Friday, nice, and it's Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, Nurday morning. I stayed up, watched and listened to you, Tony.
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  Speaker 2: You had great energy right to the end. I was
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  Speaker 2: sagging a little bit there near the end, but I
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  Speaker 2: stayed with it till the end. You know, Brad, two
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  Speaker 2: words that come to mind now are halfway point of
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  Speaker 2: this season for West Virginia. One is inconsistent and the
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  Speaker 2: other is limited. The Mountaineers are limited on what they
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  Speaker 2: can do. You know that now six games in they
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  Speaker 2: are limited, and I know you'll get into the staff
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  Speaker 2: that back that up. And then inconsistent, inconsistent defensive play.
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  Speaker 2: We thought after a couple of games this defense was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a strength, and now we see some
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  Speaker 2: inconsistency over the last couple of games. Gave it a
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  Speaker 2: lot of big plays against BYU. So just inconsistent. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, West Virginia is just not offensive. We A
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  Speaker 2: is not capable of putting together big drives. Just can't
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  Speaker 2: do it. They need short fields, they need things to
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  Speaker 2: go their way. W when you can't convert on the
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  Speaker 2: one foot line, that to me was very revealing not
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  Speaker 2: that we needed a reveal of that of that offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: We know the offensive line struggles, but when you can't
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  Speaker 2: get in from the one foot line, you don't deserve
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  Speaker 2: to get a touchdown. And I know that maybe some
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  Speaker 2: people will say, well, why did you run it up
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  Speaker 2: the middle?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you run it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Don Egland used to say, that's the shortest distance
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  Speaker 2: to the end zone, but you couldn't get you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get a foot. And had had the game not wrapped
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  Speaker 2: up early Saturday morning and been Friday and eightes, I
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  Speaker 2: think bear Bachmeyer might have gotten more national attention. Now,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's opponent adjusted, Brad, but he was solid three
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  Speaker 2: point fifty one. That was a solid game by him.
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  Speaker 2: But nationally, the fact that it ended it's Saturday morning
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  Speaker 2: and the national people were getting ready for Saturday, his
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  Speaker 2: performance probably fell through the national cracks a little bit
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  Speaker 2: to be determined. How good BYU is. They look pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: but that also is opponent adjusted. Their opponent their record
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  Speaker 2: needs to be opponent adjusted. But now they get into
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  Speaker 2: the meat of their schedule at Arizona rivalry game against
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  Speaker 2: Utah Iowa State and then at Texas Tech. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: see how good BYU really is you think they got
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  Speaker 2: they got some losses coming. Not sure what to think
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  Speaker 2: about Khalil Wilkins. Props to him for going out there
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  Speaker 2: as a red shirt freshman in a one of the
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  Speaker 2: toughest environments you have and starting in that game and
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  Speaker 2: playing in that game and running the ball twenty three times?
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  Speaker 2: How many twenty three took twenty three? In Pat White's
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  Speaker 2: final year with Rich Rodriguez his junior year, Pat White
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  Speaker 2: average fifteen carries a game. Wilkins goes out and runs
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  Speaker 2: the ball twenty three times. I mean, was he He's
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  Speaker 2: got to be in ane bath today? And I know
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  Speaker 2: that's because Rich wants to run the quarterback. And also
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  Speaker 2: how effective are you running the football? And Kohali ol
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  Speaker 2: Wilkins not very effective passing the football. So that was
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  Speaker 2: their best play, one of their best plays offensively. But
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  Speaker 2: man twenty three times. Excellent Time for the week off.
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  Speaker 2: UCF has to go to Cincinnati this Saturday. In Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be a tough lift for UCF. And
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  Speaker 2: then you go to UCF, So you know, I can
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  Speaker 2: find We'll get into UCF. I know next week, but
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  Speaker 2: I could find despite everything I just said, I could
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  Speaker 2: find a couple of reasons, and I think we'll have
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  Speaker 2: some reasons to be reasonably optimistic going to UCF. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. So those are my obviously. Oh one other thing.
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  Speaker 2: Remember last week I said that a team that is
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  Speaker 2: a more than three touchdown underdog usually doesn't win.
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  Speaker 1: You did say that, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: You said that, Yeah, yeah, might have watched the Penn
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  Speaker 2: State UCLA game yesterday. I had a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a situation, a little bit of the situation here, So
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  Speaker 2: it does happen, although it is rare. Those are my
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  Speaker 2: obvious observations.
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  Speaker 1: Well done, thank you, well done.
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  Speaker 2: So bad any feedback on this, I agree with.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with everything he said. It's obviously their obvious point.
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  Speaker 3: It continues to be the defense that surprises me, guys,
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  Speaker 3: because I think they're listen, this program wasn't built on
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  Speaker 3: moral victories.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we've arrived at the point where you've
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  Speaker 3: got to try and pull some bright spots out of this.
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  Speaker 3: This offense is limited. I think that's a good way
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  Speaker 3: to say. It probably remains limited given the totality of
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  Speaker 3: the group. But Wilkin showed you some stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Rich's offense has to have a quarterback that can run
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  Speaker 3: the ball. Wilkin showed you that at times running back
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  Speaker 3: no Tie Edwards again. I mean, I know he played,
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  Speaker 3: but it was limited. You could tell he wasn't the
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  Speaker 3: same tie Edwards that hurts you significant. Scotty Fox came
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  Speaker 3: in and threw it extremely well. So quarterback position I
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  Speaker 3: didn't think was bad at all. We've come to expect
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  Speaker 3: that from the offense. It's just struggling and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to struggle this defense. So guys, I thought this was
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  Speaker 3: a pretty good defense. I realized it wasn't the ninety
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  Speaker 3: six defense, but given what it had done early, I
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  Speaker 3: thought you had a chance defensively, and man, it is
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  Speaker 3: the way to I get in some of these numbers
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  Speaker 3: on this The defense just continues to not even remotely
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  Speaker 3: be where they need to be.
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  Speaker 1: My partner in crime, Dwight Wallace, who's watched a lot
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  Speaker 1: of football through the years, thinks a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: is okay. Once other coaches see what you're doing, and
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  Speaker 1: number one, what you're doing, and then who is doing it,
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  Speaker 1: they start to game plan for people that have weaknesses.
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  Speaker 1: And now what you're seeing is guys have been idd weaknesses,
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  Speaker 1: have been idd and now they're being exploited well.
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  Speaker 3: And you've gotten really no pass rush over the last
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  Speaker 3: two games. And it's two guys, with all due respect
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  Speaker 3: to Damon Bachmeier, have been running quarterbacks more than throwing
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  Speaker 3: and they have just torched you through the air. To me,
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  Speaker 3: that's the biggest concern of all the concerns this program
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  Speaker 3: has right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's that.
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  Speaker 3: It's that teams have done things that they don't normally
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  Speaker 3: do to attack you and have done it with great success.
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  Speaker 1: That's a concern moving forward, I read.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's indicative of a well coached and a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good team where even though they want to run
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  Speaker 2: the ball more than just throw it all over the place,
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  Speaker 2: but they see your weakness and they say we're good
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  Speaker 2: enough to exploit that weakness, which is what they did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did like Fred Perry's play though. Fred Perry, I
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  Speaker 1: mean he brings it. He plays to your point. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: if a team ever needed an off week, it is
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  Speaker 1: this week right now. And I think that for two
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  Speaker 1: fold reasons. Twofold reason, two fold reasons. For two reasons.
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  Speaker 1: You know, take the fold out one. Physically, they've banged
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  Speaker 1: battered As you said, I mean Khalil Wilkins probably needs
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  Speaker 1: two weeks just to walk straight again. Right, took a
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  Speaker 1: took a beating, and so many other guys did one
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  Speaker 1: so physically and mentally, this is much needed. On the
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  Speaker 1: other side of it, from an x's and O standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity for this coaching staff to do a
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  Speaker 1: very detailed analyzation saying to itself, Okay, this is the
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  Speaker 1: first six. Here come the next six. Where are we going?
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  Speaker 1: Where are we building toward? We have now seen literally
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  Speaker 1: all five of the quarterbacks, and you could make the
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  Speaker 1: case that the two best quarterbacks from a visual standpoint
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  Speaker 1: are Khalil Wilkins and Scottie Fox.
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  Speaker 3: The ones are the ones that are left as well,
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  Speaker 3: and I agree with you those those two have done
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  Speaker 3: done the most.
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  Speaker 1: So now as a staff, you're looking at it and go, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if we're gonna what are we going to do here?
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to bop these both of these guys
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  Speaker 1: in there and and do a two man rotation going forward?
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  Speaker 1: See how that probably is a good case. Ty Edwards,
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  Speaker 1: you would think would be healthy at least one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully at one hundred percent. By that time, we did
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  Speaker 1: not see sincere Bowers in the game on Friday night,
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  Speaker 1: can you get him up to speed so that you
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  Speaker 1: can start at least the second half with the two
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the two running backs in addition to Dior
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  Speaker 1: Hubbard and at least say, okay, we've got three running backs, right,
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  Speaker 1: Clay Ash is there as well, so you could have
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  Speaker 1: four your receiver position at this point, I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: only guy that is id'd himself truly is Cam Vaughan.
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  Speaker 1: You can't get the ball enough to him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, he's the option and the other guys
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  Speaker 1: justin Smith Brown has given you flashes, right, Grayson Barnes
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  Speaker 1: has become quiet her than he was in the first
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  Speaker 1: couple of games. Can we find a way to get
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  Speaker 1: him back into a regular mix of getting that ball
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  Speaker 1: to him and then on the defensive side. I think
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  Speaker 1: you've got to do basically the same kind of evaluation.
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  Speaker 1: And you know everyone always says, well, these guys that
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  Speaker 1: are on the field, you know aren't doing it well,
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  Speaker 1: put someone else in. Again, the message is that's the
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  Speaker 1: best that there is. That's the best that there is.
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  Speaker 1: If there was anyone that would be better, then they
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  Speaker 1: would put them in. However, some guys are playing themselves
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  Speaker 1: out of the rotation, and if you're not and it
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  Speaker 1: starts to become an equal, then the other people are
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  Speaker 1: going to get their chance. So that's where we are.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting next six games. Like you,
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  Speaker 1: I think there are some opportunities for this team to
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  Speaker 1: win again. And now the question is what's this next
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  Speaker 1: six going to be. Well, we look back on the
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  Speaker 1: next six games of year number one with coach Rod
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  Speaker 1: as Hey in the second half of the season, you
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  Speaker 1: know that you could see some signs, you could see
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  Speaker 1: some flickers that they were coming along.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you're hoping, well, because think about what you're asking.
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  Speaker 3: You just said that the two quarterbacks that are performing
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  Speaker 3: the best, and they don't have any game time, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean that was that was Wilkins's most significant time
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  Speaker 3: in his college career here. So again the expectation that
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  Speaker 3: you'll improve, that's what you're watching on that offensive side
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  Speaker 3: is as guys get healthy, can can Wilkins continue to
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  Speaker 3: show you some progress there if that passing game comes
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  Speaker 3: along just a little bit. And the numbers actually weren't bad.
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  Speaker 3: I know there were some misses there, but when you
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  Speaker 3: talk about expected points added in some successful plays. They
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  Speaker 3: did have some successful pass plays, could have had another one.
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  Speaker 3: The one time you get to Cam Vaughn with nobody
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  Speaker 3: around him, might have been two open.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it might have been too open.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't hold onto the football there, That would have been
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  Speaker 3: another touchdown. So how will that progress over the next
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  Speaker 3: few games?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're having this kind of bad situation. The
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  Speaker 1: Cam Vaughn thing was kind of a microcosm of the
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  Speaker 1: entire game and the entire season to this point. You
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  Speaker 1: drop a dime and it pops up in the air
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  Speaker 1: and they it's like seriously and turns into a pick
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  Speaker 1: exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, but Wilkins' willingness to run like a
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  Speaker 2: tailback or a fullback showed a lot of gud.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's tough, he passes, he passes requirement number one,
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  Speaker 1: and that is you gotta be tough, and he is.
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  Speaker 1: He stuck his face in there, and that's all you
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  Speaker 1: can ask for. And you just hope, you know, on
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  Speaker 1: the learning curve now he can take a ton of
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  Speaker 1: what he's seeing of himself on film as you're going
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  Speaker 1: to the next game.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't have enough. A lot of sports is
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  Speaker 2: about imposing your will, right and you just are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna impose your will? Are they going to impose their will?
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  Speaker 2: And you just don't have enough collectively to impose your
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  Speaker 2: will Brad on other teams?
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, right, And along with that, there's there's no
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  Speaker 3: identity right now because you can't do what you want
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  Speaker 3: to do right right right, just so you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: come up with things that you can do to outsmart
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  Speaker 3: the defense there because you can't just line up and
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  Speaker 3: do what you want to do, and that that always
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  Speaker 3: makes it tough. I don't care who you are, who's coaching,
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  Speaker 3: what the deal is. If you can't line up and
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  Speaker 3: do what you want to do, you're gonna have You're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have a tough time. And that's where this this
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  Speaker 3: offense is right now in particular.
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  Speaker 1: All right, moving ahead further, we'll get into spreads on
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  Speaker 3: and we led guys talking about Bear Brockmeyer and Hopey
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: you mentioned his unbelievable throwing performance. But we did say
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: in there, if you looked at the underlying numbers that
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: a turnover was likely mm hm was likely turnover worthy plays,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: and you got two of them. You got the pick
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: and then you got that great play by Fred Perry
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: to get the the forced fumble there to set you
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: up in short, short yardage.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And you've ever seen that, seen that before? For wild
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  Speaker 1: that was a play.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a basketball.
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  Speaker 1: He got a deflection, he looked like he looked like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: he was out there like Honor Huff getting his hand
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  Speaker 2: And you know what that was. That was an athlete,
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  Speaker 2: that was an athletic place what that was.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's unfortunate that West Virginia is able to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: do that, get the two plays turnover wise that you
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: hoped you could get from Bachmeyer, and the numbers told
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: you you probably would, and you still can't get the win.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: That's if I'm not mistaken in that the second game
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: now of your of your four losses, where you're plus
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: two and turnover margin and you still lost, say what
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: happened in Ohio? You so some of the stuff we
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: normally say, That just shows how limited you've been. Some
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: of the stuff we normally say if you do this
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and turnovers number one, upsets likely follow, and they just
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: haven't in two of these road games. Here we also
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: mentioned how Byu had done a great job of managing
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Bachmeyer where they threw a lot underneath and let the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: wide receivers do the work. Similar in this game. Similar
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: in this game, I mean sixty four percent of his
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: passing yards were yards after catch. He had time to throw,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: made some big plays those receivers took off and just
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: had had all day to run back there. We talked
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: about his success in the middle of the field, that
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: you had to contain him down the middle. They liked
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to attack there. West Virginia couldn't eleven of fourteen to
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: the middle of the field for two hundred and eighty
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: one yards passing. Again, I told you it wouldn't be pleasant.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Just bear with us here. As we mentioned, guys, one
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: last thing on Blackmeyer. He had six hundred and ninety
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: eight yards passing through the first four games, went for
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: three point fifty one in this one, so nearly fifty
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: percent of what his previous total had been. And like
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I said, hop, I think that's the most alarming part
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: of this is two guys that don't want to throw
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: it first have thrown it first against you with great,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: high level success. So the defense has a lot of
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: work to do here. Guys, you mentioned the huge explosives
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: in the first half. That was that was stunning. Finished
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the game at eight point three yards per play, So
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you're just not going to win many games when you
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: do that. Sixty seven percent of BYU's plays in the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: first half came in West Virginia territory. Ooh again, winning
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: recipe for BYU not for WVU three of four BYU
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: touchdown drives in the first half. How about this, guys,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: one play, three plays, two plays. They had twenty one
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: points off six plays. So explosives really told the story
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: on the BYU side of things. And how do we
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: say that all the time. If you're a limited offense,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you've got to be the one with the explosives because
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it's hard to march down the field. BYU is the opposite.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: They hit you with some big plays there. BYU ended
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: the game with a fifty five percent success rate on
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: all of their plays overall offensively for the game. That
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: was up from their forty nine percent on the year,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: which was already twenty second nationally. Their first down efficiency
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: was really good. Guys average nine point seven yards per
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: first I think that might help. Nine point seven a
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: huge trunk.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, there's no doubt it was.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: They picked up three hundred and ten total yards on
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: thirty two first down place. So if you want to
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: just compare those numbers, West Virginia was four point eight
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: on first down, which isn't terrible necessarily sets you up
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: on a second and five for the most part. But
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: BYU was certainly much more explosive as we've As we've
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: talked about BYU nine of thirteen passing it for two
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: twenty on first down, seventeen yards per passing attempt on
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: first down. West Virginia again not bad, five of nine
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: for eighty two yards when they threw it on first
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: down nine point one yards per attempt. Wester Rding's rushing game,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: as we mentioned, was bottled up. Khalil Wilkins did a
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: nice job with overall numbers, but yards per carry he
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: had a tough time breaking through for any explosives on
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: third downs. In particular, West Virginia ran it eleven times
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: for just twenty seven yards two and a half per
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: carry on third down. Overall rushing success rate West Virginia
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: is only at thirty two percent. BYU didn't put up
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: great rushing numbers, didn't need to. They still were more
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: successful on a play by play basis forty eight percent
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: success when they ran it. So line of scrimmage controlled
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: on the BYU side of things seven straight quarters without
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: forcing a punt guys, and the first BYU punt came
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: with a minute fifty seven in the fourth quarter. So
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: West Virginia almost went two complete games without forcing a
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: punt continues to surprise me.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Hunters continued to boycott West Virginia.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: If you I've mentioned the last two quarterbacks a couple
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: of times now, just to put a rap on that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: some final numbers. Nearly six hundred yards passing between the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: two five eighty eight thirty nine of fifty one combined
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: for seventy six completion for say that again.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: What the two.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Opposing code quarterbacks the last two weeks, Dan Pierre and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Bachmeyer thirty nine to fifty one combined seventy six percent
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: completion percentage. It's pushed West Virginia now to the worst
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: defensive grade in the Big Twelve. So again, say it
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: a lot. Sometimes you don't need the numbers to back
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: up what you saw, but those are pretty alarming numbers.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Here's another one that just if you would have told
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: me this before the game, I would have said, West
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Virginia's in a position here to pull the upset BYU.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Came into this game seventh nationally in field position. They
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: were plus eight on the season. West Virginia finishes this
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: game plus ten. That's the number you want.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You win it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Ninety some percent of the time when you hit that number,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: so Westernia got the turnovers, which led to those short fields,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: which led to some points for West Virginia, But you
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: just didn't do anything outside of.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: That average starting point for West Virginia was it's thirty
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: nine in the BYU was its twenty nine nine. He said.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So earlier this season we had the other aberration on
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that right. We won a game.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: We were minus fourteen field position and you beat pitt
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: So it's probably one of those. You would say, the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: numbers oftentimes even out you become what you are. So
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you're one and one in that category. But the turnovers
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: plus the field position advantage while on the road, if
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you had given me those ahead of time, I would
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: have said you were going to be in the mix
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: for this game, and certainly you were not. The number
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: that continues to jump back to back weeks is this
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: available yards. Utah put up at just a silly eighty
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: six percent of the available yards they gained BYU another
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: massive number, sixty seven percent of the available yards BYU
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: got them second highest market of the season, and just
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: like last week, it's one of the highest of the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: last last few years. So defense just continues to struggle
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Over the last couple of weeks west Fordain's rushing game. Again,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: even though I thought there were some positives and you
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: were able to do some things, in particular with Khalil Wilkins,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you still ended with a negative EPR per rush for
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the game. And that's just guys in riches offense, you
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: just can't have that. There's going to be a negative
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: expected points added on rushing rushing attempts. That's just not positive.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But you were positive EPA per Dry. Now, Scotty Fox's
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: numbers helped this sum. He came in and threw it
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: extremely well, including that great touchdown pass. But Wilkins had
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: a positive EPA on pass plays as well.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: The results maybe didn't look like it, but there were
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: some positives in the pass game. Can that continue to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: get better? And again, the definition of EPA is the
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: difference between the expected points a team will score before
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: and after the play, and it considers factors like what
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: down it is, what the distance is, the field position,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: and time remaining. So maybe a little positive to take
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: out of that from the passing game side, maybe that
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: comes along a little bit better. And those are the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: bulk of the numbers from the BYU game.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: You're not giving any individual grades simply because nothing there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, we can talk about a couple, but I
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: can give you the highest ranked defensive grades, but I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: don't know that it matters much given what we just said.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: We can talk about offensive grades. This one surprised me
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Good to see this. Tyke's Crawford was
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: one of your highest graded offensive foot performers over at
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the right tackle. So we keep continuing to say it
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: was Agbo in the right tackle position last week, it
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: was Crawford this week. Is there just little baby steps
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: there on that offensive line where individual guys are performing
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: a little bit better, That's the hope moving forward. Scotti
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Fox came in and it didn't have a ton of snaps,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: but graded out extremely well in his short time in
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: If you looked at the final numbers and you said
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you have to give me some positives, you have to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: give me some positives. I would think one thing that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was an issue earlier was penalties, and they go on
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the road where you could get jumpy right, just three
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: penalties and you didn't fumble it, but you did throw
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: two interceptions. You did win. As Brad said, the turnover battle,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and normally when you do do that, you normally come
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: out on the more positive side.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And that's why let me stop you right there for
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: just a second, because I will get the defense credit
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: on that. You're fourteenth nationally in takeaways, so from that perspective,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: that little niche part of the defense, that's one of
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the areas of expectation this year that it was going
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: to get better in that and they've done that. So
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: they have taken the ball away. You've just given up
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: too many on the offensive side. You're one twenty fifth
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: in the nation in turnovers loss, so you haven't protected
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: it as well as you need to. But defensively, you
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: have been getting the ball back.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: For the offense. You finished up with one hundred and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: fifty six run yards. That's three point three yards per carry,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: which obviously isn't the number that you need, but you
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: did get up to eighteen first downs and that number
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that you're trying to get to is twenty five first downs.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: They being b why you got twenty two first downs?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And again this is the this is the absolute minutia
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of these numbers. Red zone scoring B Why you got
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: in there seven times? Went five to seven West Virginia
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: only got into the red zone three times and they
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: went two out of three in the red zone.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Here would be a good stat Brad, and that is
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: points off turnovers teen to seven. I mean for the season. Yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: because you're on the plus Well, I don't if you're
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: in a plus out, but you're you're making turnovers as
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you said. But I'm just going.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: By that zero against Ohio. You So that was the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: other one that stood out, right, you have three picks
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: and couldn't you couldn't get it in the end zone.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So that gets back to your offensive struggles as you
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: get a turnover and you can't capitalize.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in West Virginia, if you if you want to
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: look at I've been focusing on the West virgea's defensive
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: performance and available yards just got forty six percent of
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the available yards there. So BYU, even though it was
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: faced with short fields more often than not, still did
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: a better job of slowing down this West Virginia offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we had delays. We had delays
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  Speaker 1: on the way back. Oh man, that's we'll just leave
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: it at that. We were on the plane for six hours,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and we flew for three fifteen.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Oh no, but anyway, sitting on that oh, after all
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: loss and sitting on the plane for two hours not ideal.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: That's not ideal.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Anything break out, I'd be surprising.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: No, No, it's totally Everyone was just like totally quiet.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: You sat on the plane for two hours.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: No, it's sat on the plane for longer than that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: We flew for three fifteen. We were on the plane
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: for six that's two forty five of sitting anyway. Ouch
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and like and Brad, you know this, Like when you win,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it could have been twenty hours. Everyone's like, yeah, whatever,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: we'll get back out an off week.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: When you don't, it's like it feels like you sat
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: there for twelve hours.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, thank you. So good time to have
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: an off week for a bunch of different reasons. And
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get it all straightened out and off
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: we go. Another road game coming up, yep. I'll bet
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you'll get a huge Mountaineer can Last time we went
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: down to UCF, huge Mountaineer fan base turned out there.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: So it was uh, it was good. Hey, you CF
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: team should have had should have had Kansas.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: They had him on the ropes, couldn't punch it in
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: from inside the five there, hop that would have tied
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: it or given him a chance to go for two
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: to win it late. And they did that with their
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: backup quarterback, Cam Fancher, formerly a Marshall right in. Their
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: starter got hurt. You see, it's got some speed. We'll
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: talk about that next week. Their speed scarcy in space
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a little.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Bit, but we'll get into that How's How's about? How's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: about Cincinnata? You talked about the surprise team in the league.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Cincinnata said the Iowa State? Oh is that right? You're
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: gonna do? What? Come on in here a little bit,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: my gott Are they physical?
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: About as big a lock on the day as there
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: was Cincinnati beating Iowa State. Do you see that running
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: back from home favorite playing a ranked team that was
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: the underdog on the road.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you see that running back from from Cincinnati
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: hit that kid from iow lying safetier linebacker? Linebacker? Is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: he a safety? He came up to hit this ring.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: His running back lowered his head and my man from
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Iowa State went absolutely cartoon crumbled.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: They're off to a great start. Sowsby's playing extremely well
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: for him early limitting turnover.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: He's a punter Cincinnati quarterback. Did you see the punter? No,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen him. Where's the shortest pants ever seen?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Kind of has like mailman pants on. Well, I can't
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: get in the way of the knees neflex mees totally exposed,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: basically covers half of his quad. Just wear short like
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: hot pants. Remember hoppying in the seventies. Cincinnati punter wears
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: hot pants.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Pretty soon, it's gonna be guys playing just with the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: jock strap.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Of yeah, getting closer, getting closer.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Rocco got rocked in that game, said hit he took.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know how he got glad.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: He came back in. I'm stunny. Came back in to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: play later. Their physical man.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: That was one of those double fouls. They face masked
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: him then targeted him. Kids gets ejected. The same kid
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: face masked him then.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And the face mask turned Rocco's head around. As soon
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: as you su as, he corrected. He got it right
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: in the face.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: He's tough. He got back lay later, came back in
• 35:54
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  Speaker 2: We don't have any. We had a coffee stop a
• 36:28
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• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we served Yeah, we served coffee there on the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: National International Coffee Day.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Kinda served it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I mean wean Yeah, it was good.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Mostly hung out, hung out, gave some people passed out.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: A few cups. You were busy talking. I was walking
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: around out. Oh good jobs, got good coffee and I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: got a good coffee with a salt Lake. Well done, good,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: good coffee and salt Lake. I went back to that place. Yeah,
• 36:52
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• 37:00
  Speaker 1: It, Texter. Since the oh by the way, this coming Tuesday,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: October seven, we're going to be hosting the United Way
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: fundraising event at Touchdown Terrace at the Football Stadium. We're
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: happy to announce not you're not going to be happy
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: if you wanted to go, but we're happy to announce
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that it's sold out, as Marv Albert used to say,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: s r oh, a standing room only crowd, and we're delighted.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It's a fundraiser for the United Way of Montagelia in
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Preston Counties, presented by Clear Mountain Bank and Hope Gas.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: The coaches for WVU men's basketball, Ross Hodge women's basketball,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Mark Kellogg, Steve Sabins Mountaineer baseball, and Jen Greenee Mountaineer volleyball,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and they'll each be bringing student athletes with them. The
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: three of us will be doing interviews with those panels
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: coaches and then the student athletes. We'll also have a
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: live a silent auction. The silent auction I just whisper
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and it's all for the United Way. If you remember,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: we bought a pig last weekend at the Preston County
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Livestock Auction as part of the Buckwheat Festival and a
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: thousand bucks and that was paid. And now we're going
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to We've added the live auction of the pork from
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the pig. We're gonna live auction it to someone in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the crowd on Tuesday night. And did you see the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: list of what you get? There's a ton. You get
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a ton out of that pig.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Really, that's because with a pig, you use everything but
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the oinc I mean, seriously, that's why pigs are so
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: common in the world because you can use it all.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: What does that mean? It means you use everything? It
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: means like you can you can have the you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the leanest part the full and you can also eat
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: pickled pigs feet. That is true, and you can take
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: what's left and make sausage.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was astounding. I would like to try to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: find that.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: One, like thirty eight pounds of sausage.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Was Yeah, that was to be Yeah, can you find
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: where was that? Was that a text or was at
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: an email? I don't remember from the which.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: By the way, thank you everybody that's ordered tickets to
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: that that was. We appreciate that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Note. It's a lot of listeners that did that, so
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: thank you. A Texter says. Since the Utah game, I've
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: heard comments about fans not going to games due to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the poor product on the field. I was at Utah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't easy to watch to them get dominated that set.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I think we as fans have to remember every little
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: thing about a program will have an impact on the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: future fan attendant's game atmosphere. Just a few that fans
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: can have an impact on the program's image. No secret,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: West Virginia doesn't make the top of the list for
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a number of categories that are mentioned in realignment conversation,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: but our fan based game atmosphere list is one of
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: our top qualities if we as fans want West Virginia
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: to have the best chance at making the cut at
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the end of this thing, we have to do our
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: partner making sure that the product in the stands on
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: game day stays strong regardless of the current product on
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the field. Thanks for all you do. Signed by d
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: from North Carolina.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Tony two points about that that you'll still end up
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: even on a bad day and a bad season, you'll
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: still end up with close to forty. And those that's
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: those folks can those they make a difference that forty
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: can be allowed.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Number two is Brad. You know this from marketing days.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: It's roli man. I mean people are busy. It's expensive
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to take the family to a game and park and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: eat and all those things, and people look at return
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: on investment.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Texter says during Brad's rant about the time slot for
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the BYU game, I could not help but recall what
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Scott Van Peltz said after the Arizona State Bowl game
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: where we didn't start playing until around eleven PM Eastern.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Let me fully finish this by saying, I agree with Brad.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Move the games to the weekend to avoid this late
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: start for the East Coast teams. This is what Scott
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Van Pelt said. If there's any fan base in America
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: that stay up until after the sun rises to watch
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: its team, it's the fine folks of West by God Virginia.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: It's several of those. This weekend we had some this
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: this one really stood out to me this weekend that
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: we had to do what we had to do. Washington
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: flew across the country to play at Rutgers, Penn State
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: goes all the way over to play Ucla. I just
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: said to myself, like, I'm wondering if these conference commissioners
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and these TV networks are getting this great joy out
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of this concoction that they have created based upon what
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: they wanted in their full inventory, It's just mindless. It's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: irrational this or at least.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: During the day, I mean Penn State fans because watch
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: or listen to their team play during the day. Duke
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: was in a similar situation to West Virginia that game
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: ended at two thirty or so am Eastern time. That
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: those are the ones that provide a hardship and listen.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I know there has to be Friday's timeslots. I just
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: think if you're going to do that, try and put
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the time zones compatible so it comes earlier. And I
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: know there's WNABA game on ESPN.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I understand it. That's just that's that's tough. Two thirty
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: was was late there when that game end, not as
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: late as you getting back thirty six hours.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Later or whatever it was. But I was with you.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Hop I made it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I was grinding at the end. I had my own grind.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: The team was grinding. I had my own grind getting
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the two.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Thirty Were you drinking game day grind? Is that how
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you were?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I had some later in the day than what I
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: would normally do. Yes, I was probably caffeineated. I took
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: like wind aided and Olympic records. I probably was caffeine aided,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: no question.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I took the rear seven pm nap, Yeah I did.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I went preh I went cappuccino and then and then
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I went another cappuccino with an extra shot. And that
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: was in the morning, and then at lunch, so three
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: hours later. I had four cups of coffee at lunch.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Because if you had stopped on that mid morning, I
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: don't think that you would have had a crash.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: You.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Here's why I had four because it was this. It
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: was this place called the Park Cafe, which was like
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: this great recommended Utah play by play guy Bill Riley said,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: go to there. My buddy owns this place. Go here.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: It was one of those places, you know, when you
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: go sit down at these cafe breakfast places that serve
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: breakfast all day. Then they give you this mug and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's a special mug. It's a mug that's a heavy ceramic,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and they white probably white white, and it's just like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: for some reason, it just it's different. It has to
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: be filled with coffee all the time, and it drinks
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a lot easier than just regular coffee. So you just
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: like go like this. And then all of a sudden,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I go, hell, that was for those things, and I go,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I'm good, that's fine, that's fine other than doing this
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the whole night there just you went straight straight straight coffee.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah you I listened to you the whole game, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: yeah you're you're despite the game and despite the hour,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: your enthusiasm never waned.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that was overwhelmed by the atmosphere, which we'll talk about. Okay,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: three guys, this is more historic copy. You'll like this one.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: The Great West Virginia dysporia began in nineteen fifty, the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: year that I was born. I'm a Kimball kid went
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to Welch High School, so my comments on always a
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: West virgin and the connection are limited to the southern
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: coal fields. Our friends left by the hundreds as the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: coal industry for steelmaking coal contracted. They went to Cleveland
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and Detroit. They went to Charlotte and Birmingham. Some went
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to Phoenix to mine uranium. My father's supervisor went to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Jamaica to mine baux site for aluminum production. Three hundred
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: thousand West Virginians left three generations later. This may represent
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: one and a half to two and a half million
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: sons and daughters of West Virginia now living in these
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and similar cities. Statistically, it should not be surprising to
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: see a flying WUV as we travel through airports or
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: other places that people gather. Kimball was decimated when Pocahonta's
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Fuel Company closed the Vivian Mine, and the Norfolk Southern
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Railway Railway closed their shops and relocated our friends to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Roanoke and Jacksonville. However, in the fullness of time. It
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: is a source of pride and warmth to hear. Let's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: go and know their tap route. Yeah, that was extremely well.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: It spreads on stats there, very good. Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's population peaked around nineteen fifty eight over two million,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: maybe two point one million, and since then it's been
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a steady decline. We're now below one point eight million.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: But he's exactly right. People left the state. People don't
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: know about the Hillbilia Highway. But that's a good documentation
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: of people going a variety of places. And West Virginias
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: don't forget their roots. Don't forget the roots. So you
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: have West Virginia fans everywhere. We're not BYU, but we
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: but we got a lot of fans in a lot
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of different places.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: You know, who's happening and hopping and getting people in
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the state. Tourism. Oh yeah, So I hosted their tour,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the final event of their tourism conference over here at
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the motel last week. Oh you did. I did. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: they had initially called for you. I said you weren't available,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and I took a call and so it was so
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: all of the CVBS were there and all that. It
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: was really good. I mean, you talk about tourism that's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: cranking in West Virginia right now, you know what too.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: And props to Governor Morrissey and also Chelsea Ruby, tourism director,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: because the federal government's closed, right, but they said the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: state will pay to keep the two national parks open
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: at New River Gorge and at Harper's Ferry because it's
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: such a peak travel and tourism season. Sure it's a
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: good call on their part.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: To do that. Yeah, hey, guys, longtime, first time I'm
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: out in Salt Lake City ready to root on the mountaineers.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted to reach out. Thank you. My dad and
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I are both the lums. Listened to all your shows,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: spent the week talking about your pod and mountaineer sports.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: He passed away mid September, shortly after attending his very
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: first backyard brawl since two thousand and seven. Talk about
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: an epic high note. We rewatched the game many times.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: You who have three U three have been a part
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: of a zealous and bonding fandom. So I thank you. PS.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I work for the Utah Department of Natural Resources, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I can confirm that all boats on the Great Salt
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Lake are lou Wendell pontoons, and yes, you can navigate
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: your pontuon from the Great Salt Lake to Utah Lake
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: by provo via the Jordan River. You didn't know that.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I did not know that. Well, those the water there pops.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: When you're driving from Salt Lake to prov Lake off
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: on it, it's a wow. What it means beautiful? Yeah,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it's beautiful.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You go to Salt that we didn't have time. I
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: know you walked around the campus, but you didn't. Have
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: you seen Salt Lake? Have you seen the lake?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Never been to the lake the lake proper? I have not,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: No Texter Hay, three guys. The waiting is the hardest part.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Every day you see one more card, you take it
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: on faith, you take it to the heart. The waiting
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: is the hardest part. It could be a song there.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: How about this picture, please, you'll we'll talk about this.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Had a lot of ice cream in the stands at
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: b YU. There one of them. They're gonna be multiple
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of these. During textual healing at the end of the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: third quarter BYU, people served ice cream to mountaineer fans.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, and there's just someone showing the cup of
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: ice cream that they were delivered.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Well, there's like the nice on steroids there.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Josh from Burlington, that's Mineral County outside of
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Kaiser loved Tony's Mountaineer mash call second quarter PS. I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: would buy an infant outfit for our baby, which is
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: expected May twenty one, which would be my wife and
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: i's first. If the infant section is available, probably need
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to get that. On three guys get a onesie? Can
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: we get that?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Can we? I'd probably sell a lot of them.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Dave Let homeless new Texter Stephen from eleanor a historically
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: bad three game stretch by the Mountaineer defense. It reminds
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: me of the phil elmationon led defense in two thousand
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and one.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Phil Elmation diference on your Bingo card.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: That was Rich's first year. Phil omation was the DC Texter.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I'm practicing some patients when it comes to Khalil Wilkins
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: throws a perfect ball to Cam Vaughan and its intercepted.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I suppose even a star player do a mishap every
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: once in a while. With that being said, this team
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: has played much better than last week, which says we
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: will be a better team than last week this week
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: We will be a better team next year than this year.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Is so on it isn't comment on us as Mountainer nation.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: To be patient, it will come. Three guys doctor ed.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Here we beat the spread. Defense needs to learn how
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to beat the counterplay. Too. Many runners getting past their
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: linebackers because they're headed the wrong counter direction. But overall
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I like their effort. Now do something completely different. Here
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: we go. BYU fans and game administrators are just top notch.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Many complete strangers. See my flying WV Gulf shirt. Out
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of the blue sincerely thanked me for being there and
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: wished us well.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: My goodness.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: The BYU band playing Hail West Virginia nearly brought a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: tear to my eye to know they really wanted us
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to be there and experience their hospitality. WVU fans need
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to take a note, and some need to alter their
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: behavior towards opposing fans. Truly welcome them to MYLN pushcar.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: You'll feel a lot better doing that in place of
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: chanting some rhyming vulgarity. Above is a picture of one
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: of the ice cream delivery folks. Do you recognize him?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: That's our guy, Yeah, President Benson. There, he and the
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Texter Ads Jeff Hosteler was also out there handing out
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: ice cream between the third and fourth.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Quarter home turf there for the President.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah he was really wild.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: So just everybody in the visiting team section gets ice cream.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just bring it up there. And let me tell
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you something. Take a look at the size of those containers. Like,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that's not like a two scooper, that's a serving of
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: ice cream. So thanks to the ice cream folks, and
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: thanks to the ice cream folks deliveries.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: It's President Benson. Is he everywhere? He might be here today?
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: It makes me tired. He makes he makes me tired,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Like every time I look like where how he what?
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's getting after it. Ford Hill, Phil Rights high
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: three guys, not happy but not desponding after this one.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I'm tired, but not sick and tired. The rest of
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the season is going to be a lab but at
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: least it won't be boring. Will be especially curious to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: see what the final combination will be when Texas Tech
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: rolls into end the season. We sail fourth Ford Hill, Phil, Hey,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: three guys. First of all, as someone who has been
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: to dozens of away West Virginia games, game day production
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: at BYU was as good as anywhere. Combine that with
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the kind, almost sappy, welcome to provo BYU attitude, it
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: all made for a surreal cultural experience we will certainly
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: return someday on a sad note, not to usurp Hoppy's
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: obvious observations, but as someone who just retired from coaching
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a shotgun based offense for nearly thirty years, I cannot
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: imagine any scenario where my team needs less than a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: foot and I don't go under center for the Mountaineer
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: mash and honestly I was disappointed no one in postgame
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: press corps pressed rich on why you didn't go under center.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: There me thinks Dana and Neil Brown would have been
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: directly questioned after that result signed by Steve in Tennessee, hasn't.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Dwight Tony mentioned that that's one of the weaknesses of
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: a you know, spread hray up offense is when it
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: gets down inside the five, you're more limited there as
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: he said that.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah he has. But with this Mountaineer Mash nine offensive
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: lineman formation, you certainly could have done that didn't do it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if on that one it mattered if
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: you were under center. I get what Steve's saying. There
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: certainly a lot of people share that same sentiment. I
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: don't know that it would have mattered. I mean, you
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: just got blown backward ya did I don't care. I
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: don't know it matter if you're under center, shotgun.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Or we saw that play Brad where a couple offensive
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: linemen for West Virginia ended up in the backfield. Yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: got blowed up.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeap. Obviously that incenses Rich.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he might have mentioned that in the
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: post game. He might have mentioned that about not being
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: able to get a foot.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because guys, as much as tempo is a part
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: of this, Rich has always been a guy and a
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: coach that thrives on power. This isn't the old West
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Coast offense where you try and spread it out and
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: there's not physicality. This system thrives on physicality, and it's
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: just not there right now.
• 53:29
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• 53:39
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• 54:18
  Speaker 2: You probably despite all your coffee, which I think dehydrates you.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I would hope that you hydrated given the altitude.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Oh they had drinks there, water. Oh, they had drinks there,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: sugar drinks, sugar cooke everything. They had the full Monty there.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I pounded water, did you Yeah? I
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: mean it was over the top. I mean if my
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: bottle of water got down past half seven, people in
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: there gave me thirteen bottles of water.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: So tony, and you really haven't fully flushed out your
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: experience coming here. Okay, go ahead, yeah, okay, so we go.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Right, This gentleman says long text, Guys, I made a
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: trip to Byu with my wife and the in laws,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: and boy, I must say I may have found a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: nicer fan base than West Virginia's. We could not walk
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: ten feet without someone stopping and talking to us, welcoming
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: us to Provo. Believe it or not, all of their
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: West Virginia connections, with a bunch of them having lived
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: in Morgantown or visited for various reasons, every single one
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: were kind and courteous, fantastic experience with the people. At
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: one point, one of the fans walked up to a
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: group of four while we were sitting in our seats
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: toward the end of the first quarter, and they had
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: brought us each an ice cream, continuing theme. Definitely a
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: place I would go to attend a game again. Oh
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and by the way, Tony, did you happen to grab
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: one of those ten foot cougar tails that they were
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: selling at the concession stand? There was a four year
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: old girl sitting in front of us, and the cougartail
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: maple bar was bigger than her. She took the tutor's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: challenge and downed two of them in the first half,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: which is unconscionable. It's unconscionable that she did that. So
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: these are eighteen inch donuts, like think of like an
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: e clear on steir. No, that's the ice cream. But anyway,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: so anyway, there's more of the ice cream. As disappointing,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the guy says, which is surely would induce the sugar
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: rush of her bouncing back and forth in her seating
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: on stuff. Anyway, as disappointed in the game was I
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: believe I saw bright spots, felt that Wilkins was on
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the verge of breaking along Pat White esque. Run Take
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: these next five weeks, heal up next week, let's steal
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: some wins, improve in time for a final two tests
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season. We might just walk
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: away with one of the suit Now you go ahead, there, guys,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: show that ice cream. So there is more of that
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: ice now again, that's a good that's a good serving
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: of ice cream. Yeah it is, Texter. We've been to
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: quite a few away or Bowl games, but the trip
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: to Provo topped them all. Wonderful hospitality, awesome but very
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: challenging hiking, and an inspiring game atmosphere despite the distance.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: We are very fortunate to have BYU in the Big twelve,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: signed by Bill in Evansdale, and he sent five pictures.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: That's a view very similar to what you look at
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: from the outside of the stadium. And there they are
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: now hiking in the that'd be a great Hoppy trip.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Hoppy likes to do that stuff. They're hiking in those
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: mountains Wasatch Mountains. And then there's a bunch of mountaineer
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: fans that were there for the ball contest. And here's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a look at the outside of the stadium at night,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: had little dark clouds, they had some precipitation throughout the course,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and then there was there that's kind of where the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: West Virginia section was, but it went that they're pretty
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: low to the section, but it went all the way
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: up to the top. So thank you very very much. Yeah,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: So as far as in game entertainment, again, prisoner of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the moment because I just saw it, but I'm open
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: for someone to show me a better in game entertainment.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Really it was crazy, and I know they gave us
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit extra because they had the drone show.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: They had these dr thousands of drones flying around the
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: stadium the entire night, making various you know the character
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: of those logos and shapes and the Y and the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: BYU and their mascot, and just NonStop the amount of
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: fireworks that they explode during the course of a game,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: from the start to the end of it. During it,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen anything like it. The third
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: quarter to fourth quarter break was absolutely as good as
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: there is. I'm surprised I had not heard about it before.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: But basically, lights go off, they bring in like enough
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: a gear for a concert, onto the middle of the field.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: They get the Cougar, the Cougar mascots there, they have
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: them on a podium. He's got this massive drum and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the stadium lights start to blink and every time he
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: hits that drum, it reverberates throughout the stadium, and the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: entire stadium in Unison is raising his hands. But the
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: thing that caught me was the entire BYU team does
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Like you can forget coaching. Between the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: third and the fourth quarter, all of the players same deal.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: They're throwing their arms up, kind of like the the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: dance and the New Zealand thing kind of a thing's
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: got a little bit of that field. What's that called
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: a hookah? Hakka, what is that thing? When they do?
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I know what you mean.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: So that's happening, right, And then four dudes with grass
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: skirts come out, bare chested and they have these lit,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: flaming large batons, baton type thing, and they start right
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: they're dealing with those things and there and it's dark
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and you're seeing that, and then here come the fireworks.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Here come the drones again. I mean, it is just
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: absolute and this is all between one quarter.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: It was just like, holy gosh.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: You were listening to you. It was you were very
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: taken aback. Now now now drones have come up. Now
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: they're doing the cougar. Now here come in on the
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: field with flames. So again you were you are very chested.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: It was as good as I've ever seen. And that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. I've been around,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I've seen some stadiums.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: So isn't that Okay, it's a tough place to go
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: play football and basketball, but isn't that cool to have
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: them in the league.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: It is? It is and I can't wait to be
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: good again.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Brad, isn't it well? I don't know, you would forego
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: the fireworks.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Rutgers.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Give you a temple and a guy handing out pizza
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: slices at halftime.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Right, so a couple of a couple of takeaways. I mean,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: money is absolutely no option. Oh yeah, loaded, money is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: no object when you.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Have health the wealthiest college in America.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're they're, they're their total valuation exceeds
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: that of the Catholic religion. And you know, the Catholic
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: religion doesn't hurt for dollars, right, And so when you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: have unlimited resources you can do stuff like that. They
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: throw in the drones throw like some departments like BRED,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: you know, like in a marketing meeting back in the day,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: like look, we could do the drones, or we could
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: do the fireworks. But they're like, no, don't all. We
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: can do it all. And like their set up their
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: TV studios set up outside of the stadium where they
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: do their their pregame on b YU TV. Let's just
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: think about this. They brought in. They brought in Kevin Pittsnagel,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Jeff Hostetler, Philip Bowen, right, Tavon Austin, they all brought
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: them in for their just to sit on their set
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: during their pregame show. Well, think about that and their
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: pregame show equipment wise, I mean it rivaled any national net.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the network, it's there, it's their network.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: But it's like that's the YU TV set up, it's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: b y U TV set but like that's the brand ESPN, ESPN,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Fox TV, Like that's the same setup. It's the same
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: kind of crane that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: It's everything, full studio set up outside. Like so money
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: is not an object and to Brad's concerned. To Brad's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: concerned that that's not just for equipment, ice cream and fireworks.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: That's also for players.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Right, if they just spend it on on drone shows
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: and grass skirt guys with flames and give you ice cream,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: I'd be great, be all for that, correct, But they're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: drifting over into player procurement. Then I got a little
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: bit of a yeah, a little bit. Who knows what
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: the number is? Who knows what the number is for basketball?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: But the you know, they've got the number one recruit
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: in the country who's going to be a freshman, he'll
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: be one and done, And the number that you hear is, yeah,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: demands to multiple millions of dollars.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: To get him.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Is West Virginia going there this year?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: No, they're coming here late. Okay, the Utah's Utah is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: coming here in BYU is coming here late. So they're balling.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And I talked with Greg Rubell, their play by play announcer,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and they they they just went full face in non
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: conference basketball like they're playing boys. Well they should.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Sure that's a top ten team because remember they picked
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: up Robert Wright from Baylor, who was Baylor's starting point
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: guard last year a freshman. They paid a lot to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: get him. Richie Saunders Returns and all big twelve players
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: that that might be the best trio in this league.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Those three there, they're gonna be a challenge. So again,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: spend more on ice cream.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Here's what what can I give a quick shout out
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: here from these guys in a while. Remember the guys,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: well remember the fellas that I had that issue with
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: my lawnmower that was unsolvable.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: I mean it's just so unique.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Couldn't figure it out right when you forgot to charge
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: the battery, I.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Mean really unsolvable. Until the guys came up, Jason John.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: They helped us out but.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Were those guys been Well, are they okay?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's where they've been. You know they they don't
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: just repair lawnmower impossible.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: They built.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: They build race cars and then race them like drag racing.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Text I got okay.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Are they okay?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: They're more than okay. Jason tells me. They finished their
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: last race last weekend. They have set two national records,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: two races in a row, and now become the first
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: ever ten time national championships. No one had ever won
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: more than seven on their circuit. No one had ever
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: won more than seven. That was them, just straight drag racing. Yeah,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: broke their own record of now ten world championships, two
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: national records in the last two races.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Pretty good. Well, I were starting to get worried about them.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: They'll be up for the homecoming game. Season's over now
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: and as he win world championships. So you got Dale
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Blaney in the last show wins the Outlaws at his
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: age right, oldest ever, and you got these young sparks right,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: and they do guys fixed your lawn.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Over this dynasty. How they fixed it? Well, what they
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: did was they said your battery was dead. That's Mark will.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Fixed by these guys, So it's not a surprise they
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: come and fix that thing.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Diagnosed the problem quickly. Kirchfull battery was dead.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: It was unsolvable issue.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: It took World Champion racers to come in and fix
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Bread's lawn war.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm saying, by the way, it's broken, is it?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Broken all season?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Did charge your battery?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Don't to start, He's absolutely incompetent.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Won't start, don't start mechanically, just not inclined.
• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: things changes, Spark Filters, New Filters did a lot quin
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: through the checklist of things that don't start. Gas was
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  Speaker 3: in it.
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  Speaker 1: With no game this week for the Mountaineer football team,
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  Speaker 1: Before the game, we have a guest, me may A.
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  Speaker 1: scrimmage coming up a week from this Saturday, Morgantown against Maryland.
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