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DTS Chief Planner Christopher Clark is the 2025 City Manager of the Year · The One Oʻahu Podcast with Mayor Rick Blangiardi

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  Welcome to the One Oahu podcast.
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  I'm your host, Brandi Higa, and today is Thursday, November 20th, 2025.
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  We're sitting down with a very special guest this week.
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  The 2025 City and County
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  of Honolulu Manager of the Year Christopher Clark,
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  chief planner with the Department of Transportation Services.
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  Chris, thanks for making some time for us.
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  Yeah. It's exciting. Thank you for being here.
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  So, first off, before we dive into it, tell us a little bit about yourself.
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  So where did you grow up? Where do you go to school?
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  Everything like that.
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  So I'm originally from South Carolina, and I've been here about 12 years.
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  I went to school at, Socastee High school,
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  so it's a probably a place most people have never heard of here, but,
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  so really enjoyed being here and came here with my family.
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  It's a great place to raise a family, and, we love it.
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  And so, what brought you into transportation?
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  Right out of grad school, I went into,
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  Jay making maps, geographic information systems, and, we were collecting data.
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  That was used for transportation models,
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  to figure out where roads should be, how wide they should be,
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  what we should do to make better decisions, use data to inform.
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  And so that was that's what took me into transportation.
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  I've been in that career ever since.
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  And congratulations again.
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  Like we mentioned, you are the manager of the year.
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  You've had a few days now to reflect. Yeah.
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  But when you first heard the mayor say your name last week, naming you
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  as the city's manager of the year, what went through your head?
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  I was I was totally surprised.
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  So it caught me off guard.
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  And, I appreciate the opportunity to be recognized
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  in that way for to be recognized in that way.
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  And it's been nice to kind of reflect over that over the weekend, be able to see,
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  you know, people, make their own social media posts,
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  people on my staff, you know, one of my favorite pictures
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  from Friday's event was our whole group together afterwards.
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  And all the smiles on their faces.
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  And so, it's really a team effort.
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  We, you know, as a manager, what we're doing
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  is just trying to coach the team and, make sure that they can,
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  you know, perform in the best ability, step in and help them when they need it.
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  But what does this award mean to you?
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  I think it's an opportunity for us to be spotlighted and which I think is great.
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  We've, we're out there doing a lot and, often,
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  you know,
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  people don't see what we, are being able to accomplish.
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  And so it's a good chance for us to be able to shine not only
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  within the city, but for the public to be able to see as well.
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  And when mayor did hand you that award?
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  You know, we couldn't hear because he was whispering into your ear.
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  But what did the mayor tell you?
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  He he told me they knew I would win, so I thought that was really great.
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  So was excited to hear.
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  So I appreciate that support as well.
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  Both the mayor and managing director.
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  And also the, you know, the selection committee as well
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  was something over the weekend, I was thinking about the selection committee.
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  And really being able to hear how they, you know, their careers
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  and the time they gave to the city to be able to evaluate,
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  the submissions for manager of the year.
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  And really, the three, the three women that were on the selection committee
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  were just looking back at their resumes, their fantastic business people.
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  And it made me kind of think through how they evaluated,
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  the panelist, they evaluated the submissions as well.
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  And, and, you know, looking at it from a business perspective,
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  how the city can and change and be adaptive.
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  Maybe we've done things for years a certain way,
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  but are there other opportunities to really serve the citizens better?
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  So, I feel like that was that was them really, evaluating DTS in that way.
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  So, yeah, for sure,
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  you know, telling on that,
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  you did mention the business background that the panel has had
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  and when it comes to business, kind of running the business of the city,
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  you did manage the city's federal transportation funds.
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  And for those that aren't familiar,
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  which amounted to something
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  around 100 million in fiscal year 25, if I'm reading that correctly.
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  So what did that look like? What does that mean, exactly?
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  Yeah, I think a lot of people don't understand that about DTS.
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  So we we have a budget of about 500 million.
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  So they think about us just being government employees.
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  But really we're running a business here.
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  We're running a $500 million a year business.
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  And so, that includes bus, our bus system,
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  now rail operations as well.
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  Plus we have about 800 traffic signals.
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  We're we have about 1400 miles of streets.
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  So we're not maintaining the streets, but we're putting all the traffic
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  control stop signs,
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  crosswalks where we're making that system work for the citizens.
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  So it's a huge budget.
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  And so anything we can do to try to leverage other funds that are available,
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  or have more effective, like contracting opportunities,
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  those are things that that my division helps support.
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  Also in the bio for last week's ceremony, it mentioned the sidewalk
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  construction program. What is that exactly?
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  Yeah.
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  So the city went through a period where,
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  as a policy, we didn't construct sidewalks for, like, 40 years.
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  What was that?
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  It was,
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  Council made the decision that basically they wanted
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  the property owner, the adjacent property owner, to participate financially.
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  And that's the that's common across the country.
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  There was a movement towards that.
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  So no sidewalk was constructed unless the property owner participated
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  or like in a new development, the developer could have installed, those.
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  And so we see there's there's, you know, thousand miles of missing sidewalks.
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  Really, there's a demand for sidewalks.
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  We see there's a dirt path.
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  People are walking in the dirt, or there's other,
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  other ways that we see that a sidewalk is needed there.
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  People would like it to be.
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  And so what we've done is, under the the latest
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  federal highway, authorization, they provided specific funds
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  that would be available for us to use for those type of improvements.
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  And so no longer are we requiring the adjacent property owner to participate
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  financially, but the city in targeted areas, has a program to install sidewalks.
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  And so, we went through we ranked all of those locations where there was a demand.
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  And we targeted, areas where like, specifically around schools,
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  where there
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  would be, people really using those facilities.
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  And so we're right now, going through preliminary engineering,
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  working with the adjacent property owners here, there will be some impacts to,
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  to parking, to drainage.
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  It's not simple project.
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  But we, we have that in the works.
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  And so, and it's funded, 80% federally funded.
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  And so it's really an opportunity to, to bring in those resources to the city
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  and make it make it safer, particularly around schools, for people to walk.
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  Yeah. I mean, like you mentioned, it's not easy, right?
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  Parking, drainage, things like that.
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  But, you know, it
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  kind of comes to me this year because we've had a really tough year
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  when it comes to pedestrian deaths or, you know,
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  those that have had close calls as well.
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  What is your involvement with Vision Zero and our Oahu Pedestrian Plan?
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  Well, like I mentioned, you know, I started my career using data.
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  So that's one of the things we've tried to,
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  really shift our perspective, historically,
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  not just not only Lee,
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  but a lot of cities were really, like, complaint driven
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  just because there's so many complaints, there's so many,
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  opportunities for the public to kind of comment on what we do.
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  And so you can kind of get in a mode where you just focus on the complaint.
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  How do I respond to this complaint this day?
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  But what we're trying to do now is use the data that's available to us.
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  And really, the over the last five, ten years that that data is,
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  you know, really evolved.
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  It used to be just where were there crashes looking back historically,
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  but now, you know, for instance, we have, speed data.
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  So we know, you know, you have your phone in your pocket.
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  So when you're using Google Maps, we know how fast you've traveled.
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  We know where you're braking really hard.
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  So I made a comment to someone the other day when talking about,
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  you know, speed humps or race crosswalks or, like, you,
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  you put them in the place where I li, you know, at least expect it, or I'm
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  going fast or it's the it's the place where I have to slow down the fastest.
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  So I said, that's because you're telling us you we're crowdsourcing it.
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  You're telling us where to put them.
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  Because if everyone
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  that has those devices in their pocket, the data is being used to collect.
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  So we know that's the location where it's needed the most.
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  And so that's where I think
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  Vision Zero is really an opportunity for us to kind of shift,
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  and use these other tools that are available to us now, make them
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  available to the public, be transparent and showing where the data is
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  and just communicating about it because it's it's everyone's problem, really.
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  So if we can all work together, to solve it, we'd like to.
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  Where do we stand when it comes to zero emission bus procurement?
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  How many do we got?
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  How many more do you want if you had to choose.
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  Yeah.
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  So we have, we have a plan to your busses last a long time.
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  So basically the federal government, when they support us buying a bus,
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  they want us to keep that bus for 12 years.
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  Okay. At least.
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  But we have busses that are we've had for 20 years.
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  And so, our, the operator here, Wahoo Transit Service,
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  does an amazing job, keeping and maintaining busses.
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  So we have a fleet of about 500 now.
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  And so it would, you know, we're not going to just throw all those old busses away.
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  We're going to use them for their useful life.
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  And then, as we can
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  in our replenishment cycle, we'll replace them with electric busses.
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  So that's what we've been doing.
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  So we have funds this year to buy about 78 electric busses,
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  and we'll buy those over a couple of years.
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  But really, it's not the acquisition of the.
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  But I said, that's the hard part for us.
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  It's having the facilities to charge them.
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  And so it takes a just kind of a long.
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  That's the long lead. Yeah.
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  We can buy busses.
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  We could buy 500 busses tomorrow if we if we wanted to,
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  but we have to have places that are in the right place to be able to charge them,
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  because they need to be able to go back to the barn at night.
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  They need to be able to charge, an opportunity charging along the route.
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  During the day.
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  It's so exciting, those chargers and working with, HECO to make sure
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  that power is available in the space that we need, it is really the challenge.
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  So you probably have noticed over the last year there was construction,
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  right here on King Street, next to our AP transit center.
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  So that was to get power from the HECO substation over to that site.
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  So it's not just us installing a charger.
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  We have to run conduit and have, transformers so that power can be available.
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  Sufficient power can be available at the site to make that charger work.
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  So, that's one thing.
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  Is DTS is really focused on now.
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  Sticking with busses.
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  I know that they're really important when it comes to skyline to get folks
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  beyond the rail line, you know, because we want them to ride,
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  but we also want them to ride
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  because you can get to your destination beyond the rail line.
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  So how does that work?
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  How does that bus system work now to connect folks?
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  Maybe they aren't aware. They're just like, you know what?
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  I'm not going to skyline because doesn't work for me.
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  But this could be a way where it could work for you now.
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  Yeah.
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  One of the things,
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  I've been really impressed with over the last year is that we were able to use,
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  we've been,
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  you know, the city could develop its own software.
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  We have.
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  And great people at it.
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  They can make their own software.
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  But there's these kind of problems
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  are all across the world, not just in American.
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  So you probably use Google Maps for your routing as a, as a, for instance.
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  So one of the things DTS did this last year is we sponsored,
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  a transit app.
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  So instead of developing our own app,
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  there was an app that's already out there that's used all across the world.
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  And so it has like a paid subscription option.
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  So for anyone that's on, Oahu, if they download
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  the transit app, they'll automatically get that paid subscription.
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  The DTS is sponsored.
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  And we we kind of looked at that.
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  I thought, you know, maybe a few people would use this as a, as a tool.
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  And we looked at the downloads of the app, you know, it was maybe,
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  ten a day or 100 a day and up in a peak period.
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  But using social media, we were able to,
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  kind of push out that option, for transit app.
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  And we had downloads of over a thousand a day for a couple of weeks.
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  And so when I think about that, you know, we get
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  we had that many downloads, you know, as a million people here.
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  You know, we got to a point in saturation level,
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  maybe like a quarter of the island has now downloaded transit app.
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  And when we we saw that when,
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  the second segment of rail was opened,
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  I was really worried about our passengers.
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  How do they know where to transfer?
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  How do they know what bus they're going to get?
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  We had a lot of staff on site just to help that kind of funnel them
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  into the right places, because it was new, particularly at the airport.
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  But what we
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  noticed, what we observed is people knew what to do already.
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  They just did it because they had looked at their route
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  in transit app or in Google Maps, and had already given them the answer
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  and the solution, and they just followed the instructions.
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  So I think, you know, in decades past, maybe people had a paper map
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  and they were just, following the paper map,
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  what they'd always done, previous behavior.
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  But now when you wake up in the morning, you put in where you need to go,
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  you get routed, use these tools, software that's available to us,
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  and it tells you where you need to go in the best way.
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  And so I think that,
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  you know, really makes me optimistic about what we can achieve in the future.
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  Because even if we do modify our bus routes, we innovate, we try new things.
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  Maybe they work, maybe they don't work.
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  We can see what works the best.
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  We can continue to adjust that system,
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  using the data that's available to us.
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  And people will respond.
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  They'll take the bus trip for them.
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  And I think that's what's amazing.
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  Yeah. No, I mean, you're absolutely right.
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  I didn't even know where to look to get bus routes because I don't live
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  near a skyline station and my work isn't near a skyline station.
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  But it was, you know, you just type it in.
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  This is where, you know, I'm leaving out of stadium and I'm going to Honolulu.
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  Hello.
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  You get to the transit station and it tells you, okay, this
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  these are the four busses that are coming all within, you know, eight minutes.
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  Exactly. And, you know, and that's how you get it.
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  But also, people are now purchasing holo cards.
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  Can you talk about the expansion of the whole fare system?
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  Yeah.
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  I just want to take one step back, about that previous topic.
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  So for me, you know, as winning manager of the year, one thing
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  I'm really proud of with our group is that, you know, we we use transit.
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  We I walk around the office, I see skateboards, I know people bike.
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  And so there's
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  a lot of people within our office that are they're actually using the system.
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  And so that's one of the, one of the things that really has changed
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  over the last decade with and NTS,
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  our staff
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  now have access to these, other modes.
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  And the more we use it, the more we know how it's affecting the customer.
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  And, and that way we can make better decisions.
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  So, you know, it really is a it's a cost of living aspect, right?
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  Because I'm in a family of four, we have two cars.
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  I ride, I ride the bus to work, and that really saves a lot of costs for families.
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  If it's, you know, if that if you're able to save 500
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  or $1000 a month, I have one less car in your household.
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  That's not just, you know, something.
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  You're doing better for the environment.
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  That's something realistically like
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  pragmatic improvement to your quality of life for your family.
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  And so, I think it's important DTS is able to help provide that,
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  so that we can, you know, make, housing affordable,
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  make the cost of living affordable for our residents here, you know.
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  Expansion of the whole affair system.
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  Yeah. Sorry. It's so holo.
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  Holo is, again, it's a software tool
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  that's used all across the world having a fair payment system.
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  And so when we added rail as a mode, the kind of the discussion
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  back then, a decade ago was how do we integrate bus and rail fares?
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  And so the, the tool that was available at that time was a card.
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  So we have that card, it has a chip inside.
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  So you can just tap to board, the board bus or rail.
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  But there's a lot of opportunities moving forward.
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  So the card itself is not cheap,
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  for us to buy a card and be able to give a card to someone,
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  we have to we have to pay for that, that that,
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  you know, cost gets included in our bottom line.
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  So some of the, other cities around us, one of the things they've done
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  since there are so many tourists here that would access our system,
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  one of the opportunities we have in the future
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  is to be able to use, like, an open pay system.
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  So we really don't.
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  If they want a holo card, they could still get one.
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  But in the future, what we'd like to do is if you if you don't
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  necessarily need a holo card, I just use this in New York City recently.
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  You just tap your credit card, and credit card has the same kind of chip in it.
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  You tap your card, on entry, and when you leave,
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  it gives you the best fare.
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  And so that's one of the things we're hoping to roll out into the future.
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  Other opportunities are like, do use of virtual cards
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  instead of giving you a physical card.
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  You could have a card on your phone just in your Apple Wallet.
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  And for customers who are, you know,
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  monthly pass users or other special passes that we might provide,
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  low income
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  fares, those are people that need to be credentialed
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  so they wouldn't use just their normal credit card.
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  They could have a mobile card that credentials then that we know it's
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  exclusively being used, by that person.
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  So it's a great opportunity for us to expand that holo system, enable
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  these other features, and really make sure it's,
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  you know, providing the best value.
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  You mentioned to.
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  So I'm actually I wanted to move over to Waikiki.
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  You know, this is a question that I ask
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  some of the students that come in kind of as a trivia question.
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  We ask them what department is in charge of the Ala Pono Bridge.
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  So when you say bridge, right.
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  They're all like, you know, Department of Design
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  and Construction or, you know, DFM or some somebody that does construction work,
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  but actually all of piano falls under DDS. Why?
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  And where are we with that project?
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  Yeah, Alloway bridge is a great opportunity for,
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  And it's not a new idea, you know, it's, it's something that's been in the plans
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  for Waikiki for decades, and there wasn't just one crossing discussed.
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  There were there were multiple.
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  And I think it's great that you mentioned both tours in the students because
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  there's so many, university students that that you, you know, use bicycles.
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  It's really a short trip for them to get back down.
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  And they're working there, you know, having recreation in Waikiki.
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  And so it would be a much shorter trip for them to be able to, get access
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  to where they live, where they work, where they need to go to school.
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  So we've been working on that project now,
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  we have an environmental assessment,
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  that was put out in draft, and we finalized the environmental assessment.
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  It's now under legal review with Federal Highway Administration.
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  So again, we're using 80%
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  federal funds to help support construction of that bridge.
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  And so we hope to finalize and publish that environmental assessment soon.
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  What are the things
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  that's changed about the project over the last year is we had a lot of comments
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  from the public about, hey, we don't we don't like this particular design.
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  And so we want you to rethink that.
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  So we were able to go out and have a charrette,
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  where we we looked at all the options.
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  We knew the best, engineers that we could get, Ahold of
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  to be able to show us what kind of bridge types would work.
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  And then we provided space for the public to be able to.
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  If you can do this better, we'd like you to.
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  And I think a lot of times, the public, they think, that the government
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  just wants to do something in a particular way and is not listening.
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  And, but really, we, we would love to build
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  a cheaper bridge that serves that same purpose in need.
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  And, and a bridge maybe that the residents like better.
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  And so we want all ideas.
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  We want to hear the best ideas. We want to build the best thing.
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  So there's no resistance from DTS perspective to be able to hear those.
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  And so that's what we were able to do with, that charrette.
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  Just spent a couple days with the public.
• 20:04
  It did, slow the project down, and we had to take the time to do that.
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  But it was valuable insight, something now that we're able to give,
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  to whoever the the design builder is that wins the construction of that project.
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  So we'll give them all that feedback from the public.
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  So as they go into their design, that can help influence
• 20:22
  the type of bridge type that they, that they choose.
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  But it's kind of a unique project.
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  It's a, it's a, clear span.
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  We wanted to make sure that we didn't disrupt, all the,
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  you know, traditional cultural practices that happen in that area, paddling.
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  And so we want to make sure that we're we're sensitive to that.
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  And then as we're doing the construction that we want to make sure
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  they're still able to have that practice, and that when we leave the site,
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  when we leave the park on the other side, that it's improved, it's better.
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  And, so, that it really is a great project that we can shine on.
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  And I think once it is in construction, I think everyone just like skyline once
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  you hear a lot of complaints.
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  But when skyline was constructed, when you take somebody out there
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  and you ride on it, they're they're excited,
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  they think they see it and that it's able to, succeed.
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  And we'll have the same success with All the Way bridge
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  Christianity mentors.
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  I think one thing that that DTS is really we're
• 21:20
  operating on all cylinders right now, because we have,
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  you know, Roger Morton and John Noguchi is our director and deputy.
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  So we're at a place where, you know,
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  just like I talked about, like writing transit, walking the walk.
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  We we have a director and deputy who love transit.
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  They ride transit. They they live and breathe that.
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  They're waking up in the morning
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  and thinking about it, and they want, they want us.
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  They want to be able to, to lead in a way, that as the divisions,
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  they give us the autonomy to try to create the best, opportunity for DTS.
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  So they're supporting us and coaching us.
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  And, it's really, it's really great.
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  Well, Christopher Clark, thank you for your time.
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  Is there anything that we missed?
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  I you know, one of the things I think looking forward
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  to, is a key priority for me that we're working on the next year.
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  I mentioned,
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  we talked a lot about transit, but we also talk about people don't think,
• 22:15
  you know, you mentioned that, building a bridge.
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  Is that a DTS function,
• 22:19
  another DTS function that people don't often know about as parking?
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  So we have about 4000, on street parking stalls.
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  We have about 4000 off street parking stalls that we manage.
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  It's a big inventory.
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  And, you know, parking.
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  A lot of times people think about parking as us trying to get money from them.
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  When you put money in the coin meters.
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  And that's not what we're doing or we're trying to do with having parking
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  meters, is to make sure that there's movement in the space,
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  that someone doesn't just take the space, stay there all day, stay there all month.
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  We want to make sure that we're using kind of those financial tools to incentivize,
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  people to be able to share their space.
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  And we want the parking to be available.
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  Chinatown's a great example.
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  If you're going to be there just for a few minutes,
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  you know, picking up a lei or picking up some to go,
• 23:08
  if you, if you need to park on street, we want that space to be available
• 23:12
  for you on street.
• 23:14
  If you're going to be there all day, we want you to be in the garage.
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  So what are the things we're working on?
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  A DTS is to try to kind of revisit those parking rates and use data, use the tools.
• 23:24
  Right now we have sensors.
• 23:25
  We know if you're there, we know if you've paid or not.
• 23:28
  And so we want to use those tools that are available
• 23:31
  to us to kind of rethink that system.
• 23:33
  So it's one of the things looking forward, it's going to be hard.
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  But we want to be able to communicate with the public on some opportunities
• 23:40
  around our parking facilities and, and to be able to make that system operate
• 23:44
  more efficiently. So.
• 23:46
  Yeah.
• 23:46
  Well, Christopher Clark, thank you again for your time, I appreciate it.
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  Congratulations on winning this year's city
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  and county of one of the best manager of the year award.
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  And thanks to all of you for listening.
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  Until next time. Hello.