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Ep. 55 - Split Squats & Strikeouts witih Drew Titsworth · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Ball.
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  Speaker 1: Today we have Clemson baseball player Drew Titsworth, junior right
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  Speaker 1: handed pitcher with an unorthodox celebrity.
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  Speaker 2: Has pitched over seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Four point two innings with over thirty nine appearances, has
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  Speaker 1: a nine to one record, two saves, and a three
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  Speaker 1: point nine eight ERA. He has been the Picture of
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  Speaker 1: the Week twice in twenty twenty five. Drew is currently
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  Speaker 1: the eightieth junior in the nation at number thirtieth ACC
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  Speaker 1: prospect for the MLB Draft. Welcome Drew, Welcome, Thank you
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  Speaker 1: having It's been a long time coming.
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  Speaker 3: And we've been talking about it for two years.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you're always like right there to go,
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  Speaker 2: ready for it.
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  Speaker 5: And you're like, when are we gonna have me on
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  Speaker 5: the podcast? Now is the time?
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  Speaker 6: It was almost a daily thing. Yeah, every time there
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  Speaker 6: was a new episode, I'm like, well, when's it my turn?
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  Speaker 2: Don't take it personal. We're glad you're here.
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  Speaker 5: Now your time is now.
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  Speaker 1: So how's it going? I feel like season just started.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are hot. You're at seven seven and now yeah,
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  Speaker 1: seven games.
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  Speaker 2: How's the vibe? What's the feel going into this new season.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, I mean everyone's everyone's excited. It's a
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  Speaker 6: very very new team, which is always exciting. Everyone's messing
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  Speaker 6: really well, We're playing good and I think there's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of a lot of key players and.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a great, great vibe overall.
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  Speaker 6: I think everyone everyone tends to they seem happy, like
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  Speaker 6: everyone gets a lot of joy out of each other.
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  Speaker 5: Do you guys have like a certain philosophy going into
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  Speaker 5: each year?
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  Speaker 3: Uh No, I.
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  Speaker 6: Wantn't say much changes. I think, uh just kind of
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  Speaker 6: year and year out. The biggest thing is just I
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  Speaker 6: think we talked about growth a lot, just like getting
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  Speaker 6: getting a little bit better every day and just kind
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  Speaker 6: of trying to maximize our potential.
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  Speaker 5: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: How do you sustain a season like it starts so hot,
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  Speaker 4: like I feel like baseball opening Day, it's so exciting,
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  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you've won seven games,
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  Speaker 4: but you still have like fifty more to go.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly, it feels like it flies like you kind of
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  Speaker 6: get that like the opening weekend jitters and then next
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  Speaker 6: thing you know, and now it's Carolina weekend, and then
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  Speaker 6: it feels like ACC starts and that's the ACC tournament,
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  Speaker 6: then it's playoffs. Like it all just it flies by
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  Speaker 6: just because you're having You're having so much fun and
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  Speaker 6: you're just with with the guys all the time.
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  Speaker 4: And you typically play three games a weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like the three day or do you like
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  Speaker 2: the days where there's like a double header?
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  Speaker 3: I like the three day.
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  Speaker 6: I like I think doubleheaders can can kind of get
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  Speaker 6: a little long, and they, for whatever reason, tend to
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  Speaker 6: be it tends to be a little bit harder to
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  Speaker 6: win both games and a double header, So I like
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  Speaker 6: the I like the three game.
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  Speaker 2: Series makes sense. Those are baseball's long, long days for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Eight doubleheaders when you play twice in the same day. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: just for the baseball fans who didn't now wanted to clarify.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and you guys are at the field every
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  Speaker 1: single day for so long, like talk about that like
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  Speaker 1: going you know, as you start in the end of February,
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  Speaker 1: finish hopefully that end of June. How do you go
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  Speaker 1: through you know, being at the field for that long
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  Speaker 1: and you know, avoiding that burnout.
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  Speaker 6: I think we we try to keep it fun. I
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  Speaker 6: think that's uh. One of the coach backs is like
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  Speaker 6: biggest philosophies is it's a it's a kids game. Like
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  Speaker 6: we call the field a playground, Like we we do
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  Speaker 6: everything we can to have fun, and you know, we're
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  Speaker 6: always playing pool, playing ping pong like everyone. Everyone just
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  Speaker 6: tries to keep it fun and not not get not
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  Speaker 6: take it too serious to where it gets like it's
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  Speaker 6: kind of like a drag, like oh I have to
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  Speaker 6: be here, Like you know, this isn't this isn't fun.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, oh, I get to go to the field
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  Speaker 6: today and I get to hang out with the guys
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  Speaker 6: all day and have fun.
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  Speaker 5: You're spending like hours a day there. Talk about your
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  Speaker 5: facility a little bit. You said ping pong. Do you
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  Speaker 5: guys have a ping pong table in there? What else
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  Speaker 5: is it?
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  Speaker 6: We have a we do have a ping pong table.
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  Speaker 6: I would say the pool table is much more popular.
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  Speaker 6: I'd like to shout out chance as Cheryld me and
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  Speaker 6: him won the two on two pool tournament last year, So.
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  Speaker 3: I was fun. But yeah, it's kind of just like.
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  Speaker 6: Anything you can do to compete, like it's fun, but
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  Speaker 6: like you're also competing and just like every little thing
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  Speaker 6: which I think actually helps in terms of in terms
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  Speaker 6: of baseball.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, serious question. You already know what you know? Who
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  Speaker 4: is better at ping pong?
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  Speaker 2: Mac or you?
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  Speaker 6: Me likes to think that she's better than me because
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  Speaker 6: she was.
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  Speaker 3: She played in high school. But I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We used to play like one of our apartment complexes,
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  Speaker 1: and it would get super competitive, and I just remember
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  Speaker 1: like just like slightly just hitting it.
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  Speaker 5: You took it easy on, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you would just get so mad just because of
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  Speaker 1: like the competition part.
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  Speaker 3: She's she's definitely better.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, It's okay, but you can practice in your facility.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: What's the best reign delay time passer?
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Usually eating, it's kind of if we get a reindola,
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  Speaker 6: we're all we're all going to eat.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of what we do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like baseball and softball like knowing for
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  Speaker 2: their snacks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's your go to snack.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a big honey stinger or like an uncrustable.
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  Speaker 3: Or even coffee.
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  Speaker 6: I'll drink a lot of a lot of coffee just
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  Speaker 6: being at the field, just just because.
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  Speaker 5: Wait for a raindelay. Wouldn't you not when you feel
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  Speaker 5: like super nervous because you have to go back out.
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  Speaker 3: No, not really, it's kind of just you're already doing it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean you do it a lot, so it's kind
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  Speaker 6: of like that that delay. It's almost like you're trying
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  Speaker 6: to trying to keep the energy up. You don't want
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  Speaker 6: to like go and sit inside for an hour and
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  Speaker 6: just kind of like if you're just sitting there on
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  Speaker 6: your phone or laying down, like your your energy is
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  Speaker 6: going to go down, team energy is going to go down,
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  Speaker 6: like we'll be eating or.
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  Speaker 5: Like how do you keep that adrenaline going like for
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  Speaker 5: a long time.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you do a little competitions. Our pool games
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  Speaker 6: will get very very heated people.
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  Speaker 3: People will stay engaged.
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  Speaker 5: Gotcha, So when there's a rain delay, Clemson fans know
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  Speaker 5: that the Clempson baseball team is fighting to the death
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  Speaker 5: on the pool, gotdanging ready.
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  Speaker 1: To kind of going off like the nervous piece. And
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  Speaker 1: I think I know the answer to this. But when
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  Speaker 1: you go out to pitch, are you more calm collected?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of energy that you're just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like releasing or what's the vibe when you
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  Speaker 1: go out on the mound.
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  Speaker 6: I'd say I'm a very I'm very calm on the mound.
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  Speaker 6: I don't tend to show a lot of emotions. I
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  Speaker 6: tend to kind of stay in that like that middle ground.
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  Speaker 6: We have kind of like this, we call it a
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  Speaker 6: warrior dial. It's like zero to one hundred zero being
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  Speaker 6: like you're very lax, staysical, like nothing really no energy
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  Speaker 6: hundreds like max energy like I'm screaming yelling. I'd place
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  Speaker 6: myself probably around a thirty. Like I tend to be
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  Speaker 6: like pretty cool and not let not my emotions take
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  Speaker 6: over and get me too high or too low.
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  Speaker 5: We talk to Aiden about how he holds his glove
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  Speaker 5: over his face a little bit so they only see
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  Speaker 5: the eyes. Do you have any like tactics like that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have a not necessarily a glove thing. It's
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  Speaker 6: more just like on specific pitches, it's kind of like
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  Speaker 6: I'll have like focal points where like I'll like fastballs,
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  Speaker 6: I'm looking to throw it like almost through the catcher's face,
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  Speaker 6: and then all speed pitches. They kind of they kind
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  Speaker 6: of very depending on the day. Sometimes like if something's
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  Speaker 6: not working, I'll go to a different, different sort of cue.
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  Speaker 5: What's your favorite pitch the fastball for sure.
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  Speaker 3: It's my most used by far and my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about like, and this
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  Speaker 1: is always interesting to me, like how you throw differently
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  Speaker 1: to a righty or lefty because I know, like I
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  Speaker 1: know you said, like as a pitcher it might be
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  Speaker 1: a little different.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a there's kind of there's almost I would
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  Speaker 6: say people put more into that than there actually is.
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  Speaker 6: They tend to think like there's this huge difference facing
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  Speaker 6: righties versus lefties, where like, at this level, it's so
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  Speaker 6: each hitter is so broken down that whether the rightier
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  Speaker 6: or left he might not necessarily matter. It's more of
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  Speaker 6: like what pitches are they better at hitting? Where do
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  Speaker 6: they hit the best at? So it's kind of it's
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  Speaker 6: not necessarily right on left thing. It's more just like
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  Speaker 6: an analytic breakdown of like what pitches they struggle with
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  Speaker 6: or what pitches they hit better?
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  Speaker 5: And so do you guys have like film where you
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  Speaker 5: study each batter from the team that you're playing before.
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  Speaker 6: We don't individually do it. We'll have our our pitching
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  Speaker 6: coach and our bullpen coach. They spend the entire week
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  Speaker 6: on it and they'll kind of they'll tell you beforehand,
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  Speaker 6: like how they're we're going to go at each hitter.
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  Speaker 6: We kind of have a saying where it's like we're
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  Speaker 6: going to go at him with our best stuff no
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  Speaker 6: matter what. But we'll kind of kind of adjust that
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  Speaker 6: sometimes depending on situations or certain people. So they'll really
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  Speaker 6: break it down for us, and then for me at least,
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  Speaker 6: it's like I put my full trust.
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  Speaker 3: In them that they know what I have to do.
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  Speaker 6: They'll tell me what I need to do in order
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  Speaker 6: to succeed, and I just trust them completely in that.
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  Speaker 4: Your team uses a ton of analytics, like sports science.
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  Speaker 4: Talk to us about that because I've seen some videos
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  Speaker 4: and presentations on it, and it's just mind blowing all
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  Speaker 4: the things that they can break down, from your mechanics to.
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  Speaker 2: Everything. I don't know, you can probably do a better
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  Speaker 2: job explaining how you all use that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of it. A lot of
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  Speaker 6: it starts in the weight room with coach Rick. I
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  Speaker 6: think he's kind of he's kind of like a genius
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  Speaker 6: when it comes to the body and he's you know,
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  Speaker 6: he's seeing stuff that you would you would never even notice,
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  Speaker 6: like you have like your quads could be turned out,
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  Speaker 6: or like there's just like little things that you'd never
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  Speaker 6: never really think of. And along with that, we have
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  Speaker 6: a force plate mound which kind of gives us, ah,
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  Speaker 6: gives us like player speed and kind of which direction
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  Speaker 6: you're putting force, So we use that. Yeah, we kind
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  Speaker 6: of use that to like utilize like efficiency, like big
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  Speaker 6: thing for me, Like when I got here, my speed
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  Speaker 6: down the mound was pretty slow. And we've kind of
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  Speaker 6: found with guys with my like similar body composition, the
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  Speaker 6: quicker you can get down the mound, the harder you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna throw on, the more effective you're gonna be. And
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  Speaker 6: then our motion capture videos kind of just discover I
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  Speaker 6: mean it was mostly like arm path things. Yeah, kind
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  Speaker 6: of just like sometimes the would be I'd dip a
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  Speaker 6: little bit, or I'd get too high on my front side.
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  Speaker 6: Just every every little piece of technology that we can
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  Speaker 6: use or we do it, and they do a great.
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  Speaker 3: Job with that.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I've seen crazy pictures of pictures like
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  Speaker 5: with their arms contorted in like weird ways, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: how is this humanly possible? Natural? Yeah, it looks like
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  Speaker 5: alien almost worst. Do you guys have any pictures like that?
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  Speaker 6: I do have a pretty a pretty crazy one where
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  Speaker 6: my arm is I don't even know how it happens
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  Speaker 6: because if I try to bend my arm back here,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't really.
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  Speaker 5: Go, but you won't feel it when you're throwing.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's one where it's laid completely flat backwards.
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  Speaker 2: It looks so good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of weird to look at.
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  Speaker 1: So everyone says that you have an unorthodox delivery, Like,
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  Speaker 1: can you explain what that means?
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  Speaker 6: I think that got put out in an interview or
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  Speaker 6: something someone was It might have been my first outing.
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  Speaker 6: And the announcers like, he has an unorthodox delivery.
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  Speaker 2: You chuckled with.
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  Speaker 6: I get, oh, yeah, no, I guess I guess it
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  Speaker 6: is kind of true.
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  Speaker 3: I think it.
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  Speaker 6: I guess it tends to be unique, just kind of
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  Speaker 6: like a natural something I was born with. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: it has, it has its perks and downsides to it,
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  Speaker 6: for sure.
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  Speaker 5: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 5: What are they talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 5: What makes it different than other pictures?
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  Speaker 6: I tend to throw in a kind of almost like
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  Speaker 6: a complete split squat, like my okay, my back knees
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  Speaker 6: almost touched in the ground while my front leg is
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  Speaker 6: like in a squat, or like I said, like ninety
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  Speaker 6: degrees where a big baseball thing is kind of like
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  Speaker 6: locking that front leg and rotating over it.
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  Speaker 5: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it's not your arm.
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  Speaker 3: No, no's yeah, it's like it's a lower body.
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  Speaker 5: You're like squatting.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, if you were thinking of like a forward lunch,
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  Speaker 6: that's kind of the position I throw the ball, gotcha.
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  Speaker 6: For whatever reason, It's kind of just just the way
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  Speaker 6: I was built.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you've always done it like that.
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  Speaker 3: I have. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: When you were little. Did you ever like watch pictures
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  Speaker 5: growing up and you're like, oh, I want to throw
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  Speaker 5: like that?
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  Speaker 6: Or I was a big Justin Verlander fan growing up,
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't say we throw all that similar him, just being
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  Speaker 6: a Tigers guy. I was always a big fan of him.
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  Speaker 6: And then Clayton Kershaw I like to watch a lot too.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's a He's one of the greatest pitchers
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  Speaker 6: I ever do it. And I don't have very many
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  Speaker 6: similarities to those guys, but I had. Those are just
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  Speaker 6: two of my favorite people to watch growing up.
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  Speaker 5: You also played basketball and football in high school. What
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  Speaker 5: transitioned into baseball after that? How did you transition?
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  Speaker 6: It was kind of just I was just what I
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  Speaker 6: was best at. That was kind of what I was
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  Speaker 6: most most passionate about. You know, I always liked I
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  Speaker 6: kept playing football and basketball all the way through high school.
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  Speaker 5: Did you have time to do that? Like, that's three
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  Speaker 5: spot including baseball, right, Like, that's three sports in high school.
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  Speaker 6: Spring, spring and summer baseball, falls, football and winters, winters, basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Staying busy, busy. So you're from frankmin, Michigan. Your whole
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  Speaker 1: family's from there, been there your entire life. What is
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  Speaker 1: it like being from a small town now coming to
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  Speaker 1: Clemson kind of similar to a small town.
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  Speaker 2: What has that been like?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that was one of the one
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  Speaker 6: of the biggest factors that drove me here is being
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  Speaker 6: from a town of five thousand. It's a very small town.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of I mean, you know mostly everyone you
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  Speaker 6: go to, you go to my you're going to see
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  Speaker 6: someone that you know. And I feel like Clemson's kind
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  Speaker 6: of the same way. I mean, obviously we have a
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  Speaker 6: very large student body, but in terms of like the
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  Speaker 6: surrounding area, there's not much. It's kind of like Clemson's
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  Speaker 6: like its own little special place, almost in the middle
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  Speaker 6: of middle I'm gonna say middle of nowhere, because that's
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  Speaker 6: what I refer to frankminth As is its own, it's
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  Speaker 6: own place in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's very I like that feeling a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you followed coach backets year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, what was that process like decommitting to Michigan
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  Speaker 4: kind of probably little bit of a leap of faith,
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  Speaker 4: but also checking out Clemson and making the decision to
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  Speaker 4: come on down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 6: I got offered to go to Michigan my freshman year
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  Speaker 6: of high school, and it's kind of immediately I was
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  Speaker 6: like yes, even after there was only one or two
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  Speaker 6: conversations with Backage himself, I'm like, this is this is
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  Speaker 6: the dude I want to go play for. Like he's
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  Speaker 6: he's done great things at Michigan. And then the him
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  Speaker 6: going from Michigan to Clemson kind of like when it
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  Speaker 6: first happened, we didn't really have any We didn't have
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  Speaker 6: a clue what was going to happen. Like we were
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  Speaker 6: all we all just saw it on Twitter one day
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  Speaker 6: and we were like, oh, what are we what are
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  Speaker 6: we going to do?
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  Speaker 3: Like where this mean? What's the next step?
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  Speaker 6: And uh, I was grateful enough that he he facetimed
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  Speaker 6: me two days later, he offered me to come to
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  Speaker 6: Clemson on the spot. I was like, uh, I'm gonna come.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna come check it out, like I'm going down
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  Speaker 6: to Atlanta anyway for a baseball tournament. I'm like, I'm
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: really sure I.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Want to do it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: But see it.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom was kind of skeptical.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: She's like, oh, you're going from being an hour away
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: in ann Arbor to twelve hours now in Clumpson. But
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: even she came down here with me and she saw
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: it and she was almost like tearing up when when
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: he had that conversation with me and offered me when
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: we were in his office and she's like she told me,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: She's like you need to come here. Yeah, like this
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: this place is for you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: So that was What was.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: It specifically about Backage that made you want to follow
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: him to Michigan to Clemson.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: I think it's just his his energy and just kind
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: of the way he goes about everything. Like it's like,
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: like I said, he tries to make it like a
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: children's game, and I would say he's almost a little
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: bit of a child himself. He's like, we're gonna do
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, we do some just crazy stuff in practice.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: That's like whatever we can do to make it fun.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Like last year, I remember we're smashing apples and bananas
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: and like doing fruit stuff at.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: You're playing Fruit and Joe.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pretty much. It was pretty much Fruit
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: and in Joe playing basic.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Whatever whatever he can do to have energy and make
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: it fun, he's he's going to do.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: And I love that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: We have to talk about his social media. Yeah, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: videos he made, the.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: AI videos, I love them.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Out of nowhere.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: A tiger is like coming in or like it's going
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: to be a picture of you, like celebrating and then
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: you just like turn into a tiger.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Like how does he make those? Does he have like
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: a specific I think he's.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: One of the highest Gamma users in the country.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I think that's his big thing.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Have you been in a video yet?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I wasn't one. Last year.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: I believe I was standing on the mound, uh, and
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: then I believe I did turn into a tiger.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah I was. I was leaping off the mound as
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a tiger.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's like fun, you know, yeah, like
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: he's making cool. Yeah, I love it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I feel like the fact that he can just make
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: it a fun environment for you guys and make it enjoyable,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: like makes you guys do so much better.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: I mean when everyone whenever it's excited to play, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: not even just excited to play, but it's excited to train,
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Like that's you're gonna If you're excited to do something,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: you're gonna want to do the best you can at it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Where kind of like that mindset of like oh I
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: have to do this, like you're not fully committed. You're
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: not fully committed to doing it. Where it's like, oh,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: I get to do this and I'm having fun. Yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: you're way more committed to getting better and making the team.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Better for sure. Just like a perspective, Yeah, exactly, especially when.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: You guys are there for you know how many hours
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: a day, like you need to make it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Talk about your teammates, they're like, they've got to be
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: like your brothers. You live with them basically, So.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean spending all day with them out the field.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, I mean there's a lot of us. Yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: there's forty guys, but you know that at the end
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: of the day, all forty of those guys are going
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: to do whatever they can for you, not only as
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: a player, but as a person, like you get to
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: you're so close where like you could call the him
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: at any point in the day and they're they're gonna
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: pick up. Anyone's gonna talk to you if you're going
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: through anything. That's just a it's a great feeling. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: know that you have that that support system. And even
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: when you're on the field, I mean, you get forty
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: guys in the in the bunker that are fully behind
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: you and they're fully encouraging you.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Is there anyone that like fires you up or is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: like the energy bunny in the dugout?
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: I would say for me, I think JP's JP's kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: of JP's kind of my guy when it comes to that,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: especially on the mound. Uh, if something's not going well,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: I'll look back at second base and he's gonna he's
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: gonna say something that's gonna make me laugh and kind
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: of just get me out of that, out of a
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: super serious mindset, just kind of remembering it's a kid's game.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: We're here to have fun, and that's kind of kind
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: of when you perform the best. So just having having
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: him to be there to always make me smile ho
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: kind of move on from the bad things is definitely good.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: And he was also committed to Michigan too, so you've
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: known him for a while.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Actually, I only ever played with Jaron one time growing up.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Didn't know him all that well.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I kind of yeah, and you guys are both from Michigan.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: Kind of new of him but didn't know him personally.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: And then freshman year we lived together in duphit and
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: kind of the rest is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: History from there.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Commit from there.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was like a few of you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: right who were committed to Michigan de committed and then
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: went to Clemson with package.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Right. Do you guys have like a little special bond
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: over that now?
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it's, oh, we're committed to Michigan, now
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: we're at Clemson bond.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: It's kind of.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: You guys are Clemson Tigers.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: The fun piece of it is so evident in so
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: many ways. But I also think about the Savannah bananas
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and getting that, and that was so cool. I mean,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: like the first college team to do that, to host them,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: to be a part of it. You learned all their
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: dances and fun in such a short time.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: What was that Like, Yeah, I think it's uh, it
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: was definitely hectic. Uh just kind of like it's way different,
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: but at the same time with how coach back it's
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: does it, it's it's really not that different. Like he's
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: not that he's out there making us dance during the game,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: but but it's not something when he told us we
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: were playing them, it wasn't a surprise at all. It's like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: if there was any coach in college baseball that's gonna
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: get the Savanna Bananas to play a college team, it's
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: it's going to exactly what exactly what he stands for,
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: exactly what he wants.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And now there's other schools playing them too, right, So trends.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: What was your favorite part of them coming like learning
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the dances, performing the flips that you had to do,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Like what was what was your favorite little trick.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: As a non dancer. I would say just kind of
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: kind of just hanging.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Out with those guys.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Experience wouldn't say I was I was too excited to
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: be doing all the dances and kind of kind of
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: be out there. That's not really not really my thing,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: but I mean they were just great guys. Just enjoying
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: what they were doing. I think that that was the
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: most fun part from me.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Did you talk to any of them and learn their
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: story of where they came from in baseball too?
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was kind of It was kind of interesting
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: when you think about kind of those guys and what
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: they do. You wouldn't think that a lot of them
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: were high level college players or even like minor league players,
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: draft picks, or even some guys that played in the MLB.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: So it's kind of kind of interesting to like learn
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: that from them and kind of how they they made
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: that transition from playing more of a I don't want
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: to I musa say, like a serious kind of baseball
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: like in college and then professionally and what they do now.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember, I don't know if it was Danny
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Hoseley or Jackson Wilson that we had. I just assumed
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: and Mary, it's my basketballackground that it was like Harlem Globetrotters,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: And they were like, no, you can't script a pitch
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: and a hit, and I'm like, oh, like just the
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: level of difficulty and true baseball that's still happening while
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: doing backflips or breaking out a dance like it's so
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: much fun.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed in that moment.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: To think, I don't know that Trotters was scripted like
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: But you're still making a shot, and like they're very
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: hard shots, but there's a little bit more of a
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: script show. Yeah, but it makes sense, like if someone
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: is legit pitching, it's not like they're just lobbing it
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: in there.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's not.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some control off the bat, but not.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: I think it's too hard to hit a baseball to
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: be able to script it. It's all it's all on,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: too predictable to be able to have a script.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Which makes it so much cooler.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: The only the only script is the dances and celebrations.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: That's that's about it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And I imagine trying to catch a ball like mid flip.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I think that's like unreal. I think that's so fun.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: I remember some of the baseball players came into the
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: gym to go back flip before that game, and.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I think you should share that I really talented. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: we can kill up.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I don't really have good awareness when it comes to
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: a baseball or a basketball or a football or any
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: covering back down. I don't have any sort of spatial
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: awareness for that at all. But I know how to flip,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: so maybe maybe you guys can help.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I think you have the hard part figured out.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Flip on a beam, Yeah, flip.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: The flip is definitely the harder part of that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, well we'll try and work on it after season.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. What do you enjoy doing outside of baseball?
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Outside of baseball, I like to I mean I've talked
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: about it a lot, pool, But other than that, I
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: like to I like to fish. My roommate here, he's
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: got a little private lake that we can go to,
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: so we'll go out there and go fishing. But uh, yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I think even outside of like the whole training aspect,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: I spend just a lot of the time at the
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: field kind of doing whatever, just being with the guys,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: because that's really what.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed doing most, just being being around my teammates.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's so cool.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Like there's a balance, right, you need some but to
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: also just enjoy it so much that you don't really
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: need to step away.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. I feel like you think of it like
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: spending time with friends, like quality time. It's the same thing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Like you're obviously training and stuff too, but it's it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: cool that you can combine both together.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like, whenever I got asked that question, I'd
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: be like anything outside of volleyball, like I don't know
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: about that, like just seems like yeah, like I and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: literally in the gym all day every day, like anything
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: outside of that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It seems like, you know, so long ago that you
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: used to do those things.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But it's cool that you can like still do things
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you enjoy while also you know, being an athlete and stuff.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Are you good at fishing?
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: I would say I'm a decent fisher. Golf is something
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: else I do. I'm not a very good golfer.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like baseball baseball players loved golf. Yeah, it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: like a.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: For whatever reason, it's kind of almost all baseball players golf.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I think the.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Swinging aspect of it is a little similar, not too similar.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: It is interesting, though, I tend to see that more
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: pitchers golf than position players, which is kind of.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Weird because we maybe we're, uh, yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: We're chasing the swing that we gave up when we
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: decided to stop hitting.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what it is.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Hey talk to us a little bit more about that, Like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: how did you know you fell in love with pitching
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and you wanted to be a pictuer?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was growing up kind of, I just enjoyed
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: pitching more.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I like kind of almost being like in control of
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: your when you're When you're pitching, you're more in control
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: of what's going to happen, where hitting is a lot
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: more reactive, right, Like, as a hitter, you got to
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: react to what.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: The pitcher's doing.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: But as a picture you get to set your own
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: You set your own pace, You kind of you do
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: your own thing.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Does the pitch clock that was implemented a couple of
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: years ago, does that affect you anymore?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: No?
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: I don't think it was never like a never a
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: problem I really had.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: It's like twenty seconds.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's twenty seconds in between pitches, which has a
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: pitcher's plenty of time. We usually like to kind of
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: work fast anyway, gotcha, it's it helps us.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And when you were a batter in high school, you
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: batted lefty right, so how you throw righty?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So how does that? How does that like work? Well?
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I was I was a natural right handed hitter, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: then I taught myself to switch hit with the help
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: of my dad when I was younger, and then once
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I kind of started focusing on pitching, I just kind
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: of chose hitting lefty.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Alrighty.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: I chose lefty just because it seemed easier for me
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: to do that. But uh, it's kind of weird how
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: the counter rotation works. Like if you're throwing right handed,
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: you're rotating one way. If you're hitting your rotating the
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: other way. I don't exactly know the science behind it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to try to try to try to
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: make something up, but I'm.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Trying to like motion it in my head, you throw
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: this way. But yeah, I'm trying to think about it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like if I were to try to do
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: anything with my left hand in volleyball, it would.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Be catastrophic, like it would I don't know how you
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: just switch like that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know either.
• 28:17
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• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Now back to the show.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Are there like pros and cons to being right handed
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: or left handed in baseball? Because like I see all
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: these things, isn't Paul Skin's left handed or something, He's Nope,
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: right handed. Never mind. I've seen some things about like
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: some people being left handed and it's more like unique
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: or right handed, and it's different.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the lefty kind of the uniqueness is
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: it that there's less there's a lot less.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Left handed pictures.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Our strength coach kind of talks about actually how the
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: way the humans body is built, you're more rotating as
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: a right handed picture. Your body's built more for that
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: kind of just like the the location of like our
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: guts and kind of like where are like intestines and
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: stuff sit. The rotating as a righty is more like efficient,
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: and therefore you should throw harder as al righty than
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: lefties do. But it's it's all kind of weird because
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: you see, I mean, hardest picture ever in baseball throws
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: left handed, so it's kind of it's kind of weird.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: But I would say lefties are just more unique because
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: there's there's just left less of them.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: It was aosis of your intestine.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have to talk to him about it. But it's you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Said he was the experience.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think they're all like you're intestines and
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: the insides of your body are symmetrical now, so it would,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: but apparently not.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Some of it's like stacked on the left side.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Which gotcha weighs you down to rotate that way better.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But I don't.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Interesting, but that's good to know for like gymnastics and
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: volleyball too.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. There's a lot of thinking required.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: So you talk about Rick, you know, helping you with
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. You've kind of transitioned from the relief
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a role to starter getting your velocity up. How does
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: rec help with that and you know, getting your speed
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: up on the ball.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I spent the last two summers here
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: my I guess three summers, so the summer before my
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: freshman year, after freshman year, after the sophomore year, just
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: kind of focusing focusing in on Rick and kind.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Of what he he teaches.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of a lot of science behind it
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: that I I don't really understand, but in terms of
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: velocity was kind of that. And then there was kind
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: of like that motion capture that I've talked about, there
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: was a big an arm path problem that I had
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: my freshman year that would kind of cause my arm
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: to be late.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: And with that, the whole, the whole velocity is going
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to go down.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: And then even rick over this summer, I kind of
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: had a right knee problem kind of like that that
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: back leg, and we found that it was more of
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: like a it was actually a hip problem, which because
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I was not able to kind of hinge in this backside,
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: I would my lower half would rotate early, but trying
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: to keep that upper upper half back would cause a
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: lot of stress in the knee. So he kinda he
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: kind of helped me with that, so there's no more
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: knee pain. And now I'm now I'm throwing harder too.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: So he, like I said, he sees a lot of
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: a lot of stuff that you would I would never
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: even pick up as a player myself.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: That's insane, Like everything is truly connected, Like your hip
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: is making you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Throw slower, Yeah, that's crazy.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Talk about like you're you're in the starter role, you're
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: in the reliever. You've kind of been switching back and forth.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Which do you like better? Is there a routine that's
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: different for each Just talk.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: A little bit about that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I want to.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know that I could pick one that I
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: like better. I think the routine of starting is better
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: just because you have you kind of have your whole
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: week laid out, like when you're gonna throw a bullpen,
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: your lift days, like that sort of stuff. But I
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: like being a reliever too because there's that that aspect
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: of uncertainty and you kind of you never know, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: it's like it's almost like a thrill like starting. You know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: you know when you're pitching, you can be in the
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: bullpen eating a snack on a Friday night after in
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: the seventh pane and they're like, oh, you got the
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: next header. Like that that kind of sudden rush is
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: a is a good feeling. So I don't know that
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: I could pick pick one I would prefer.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Would you rather pitch like a complete shut out game,
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: maybe like hits but no runs, or would you rather
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: like it be the last game of the series and
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: then you come in and you already have two outs
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: and the guy like you have to strike him out,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: and you strike him out, Which one would you rather?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a really good question. I don't know.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I think there's.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Which feels better, like which hypes you up more?
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I like, I mean, I guess either
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: way you win, right, So, I mean that's that's good.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Maybe coming in and getting that final strikeout. Yeah, it
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: seems like a big moment. But I guess if you
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: throw a complete game and you know, you don't give
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: up any runs, that's also that's also huge.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, insane. Have you guys ever experienced that year?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: At comeson, I have not thrown a complete game?
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: No, no, I mean like no hit, I mean hits,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: but like no runs.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, we uh we actually got I think we've
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: got two of those this year already. Oh wow, were
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: called We call them shutouts. It's basically like you shut
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: out the other team from scoring.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, who are you most excited to play this season?
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Because the ACC has got a lot of a lot
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of teams in the top twenty five.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, uh, you know, we say our biggest game is
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: always our next one. So right now I'm most excited
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: to play Carolina on Friday night.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Love that. What are the vibes going to be at
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: South Carolina?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: We're going to find out.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Our game there freshman year on Friday got got rained out,
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: so I haven't played there on a Friday night yet,
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: but uh, you know, the energy is going to be high.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's a it's a big rivalry that I mean,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: it'll be exciting.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Do you guys go there or do they come here?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: So we kinda we split it up every year, so
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: this year we go to.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: We're playing at Carolina on Friday, and then we play
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: in neutral site Saturday and then here on Sunday. So
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: kind of like I like that idea of it just
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: because of the rivalry and it kind of gets gets
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: like both sides of the fans into it. Like it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: if we were just to go to Columbia, harder for
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: as many clumpson fans to be a part of it,
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: where if you are in Colombia and in Clemson get
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: you get all the fans involved.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Those are my favorite baseball games to experience is when
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: South Carolina comes here. There's just so much tension in
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: the air, you can like cut it. It is so cool.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I'm I never grew up like watching baseball consistently, but like,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: those are the games that I love to watch, like
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: any sort of rivalry obviously, but it's fun. It is
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: so fun and everyone's so into it, and yeah, yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: that's my favorite.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Is would you say that that's like the most electric
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: environment that you play in or is there another that
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: comes to mind?
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: I think the Carolina Series is definitely the the biggest
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: environment we play until we get to you know that
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: regional or super regional. Yeah, I would say the Carolina
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Series definitely the biggest viment just because it it means
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: so much to so many people. Kind of like you
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: have a state divided by Carolina fans and Clemson fans,
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: so like there's so much, there's so much that goes
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: into it that it is just the energy is always high.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: It's I mean, it's it's really fun. It's more fun
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: than anything.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: What would you say your favorite Clemson baseball tradition is.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I like the.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: I really like the album Mater at the end of
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: the game, just kind of getting to the fans and
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: kind of going back to like the roots of the
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Clemson tradition, and then we give a we give a
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: little salute to the cheap seats, which are our fans
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: and right field. I think I think that's fun.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Well, and you guys go into the stands now during
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the fourth inning, talk about that. I know Army was
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: here last weekend. They also went into the stands. It
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: was very like a heartfelt moment.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: That's so cool.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that?
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I think it's very special. I mean coming
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: from a military family, my dad was in the army, uncle, uncle,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: and grandparents have also served, so honoring the military just
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: because what they do, what they're willing to sacrifice, deserves
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: the utmotist respect. And in that fourth inning, getting the
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: opportunity to.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Show a little bit of respect.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: To those guys, I mean there's you can't say enough
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: or thank them enough for what they have done, but
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: just being able to do that in the fourth inning
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: definitely means a lot.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: So cool, it's really cool.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Clemson is like huge, it wasn't military school, So the
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: fact that they incorporate this into their games and their
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: athletics and the people and their family, like, I think
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: that's really special.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: And something that backage has been able to implement too
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: since he's been here and you know, do all the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: fun things but all so you know, pay respect and stuff.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's dude's full of great ideas.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they talk to us about like how baseball people
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: always say it's like a game of error, Like your
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: batting average could be like zero point three and that
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: means like you hit the ball like thirty percent of
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: the time. That's crazy, like you're failing more than you're succeeding,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: and that's considered like good, a good batting average. Like
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: that makes no sense to me, like as as someone
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: who does like a sport based on scores and you
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: have to be and you have to be perfect, Like
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense to me. So can you explain
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: that a little?
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: It is I mean we say that baseball is it
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: sets you up for failure, like the if as a hitter,
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: if you succeed thirty percent of the time, you're going
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: to be in the Hall of Fame. Like that's like
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: that is it's such a it's such a crazy kind
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: on set, but that's kind of it's kind of just
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: how it is, and I think it almost it sets
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: you up for stuff outside of baseball. Because we as
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: baseball players, we, like you said, like we deal with
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: failure a lot, like it's it's a routine thing. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: I think that that kind of helps you outside of
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: baseball because you almost developed the mindset that like we
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: build on failure, Like we learn from what we do wrong,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: and we learn that, we learn how to move past it,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: and we're able to apply that kind of to the
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: rest of life.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: The growth aspect that you were talking about earlier.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And as a picture too, like you are literally trying
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to aim for like a tiny box and you're throwing
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: like ninety miles an hour potentially, Like that's so small.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: That you have to hit.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And I feel like people too, Like being at a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: baseball game, people get so like annoyed with either like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: calls or like whatever. So I feel like too, like
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that extra pressure of literally trying to hit that small zone,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Like how do you deal with that?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: How do you deal with the pressure of that?
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: I think as a as a pitcher, it's almost like
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do. That
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Like you you obviously you're going to try to be
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: like on the corners of the zone, but you got
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: to understand that it is not necessarily always going to happen,
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: and even like sometimes you're just going to the mindset
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: like hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do,
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Like this is you're hitting a round ball with a
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: round bat at ninety five miles an hour. Like that's
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: that's not an easy thing to do. So I think
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: that that can almost help kind of like the pitching
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: mindset of it, like not that you you're like relieved
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: and like, oh, I'm just gonna throw this because I
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: know that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: It's uh, but it almost it gives you kind of
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: like a relief like it's okay to like kind of
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: make these mistakes just because because of how.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Hard it really is.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I want to try and hit a baseball.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Talk about Drew pitching.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, with you pitching, do you think I would be
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: able to No?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, I think I feel like if you
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: threw one hundred pitches, you don't think we could hit
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: one bit contact?
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if I hold that, I think if
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: we but if we went out to the field and
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: set up the machine to throw the ball on the
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: same spot every time, I think you would you would
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: realize how hard it is.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's very very hard to do.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people think it's easier too.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Like when I see it on TV, I'm like, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: would hit that. Why'd you miss that?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: Crazy to think about, like the little box, Like I
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: only see the little box on like the TV screen,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Like you don't see it in real life when you
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: go to an actual game. So when they make a call,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: I'm like.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's kind of crazy because the I mean,
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: just like the margin air and baseball is so small
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: that a lot of fans don't I mean, yeah, and
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I don't blame them.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: When you're two hundred feet away, you can't see if
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: a ball is an inch left or right. So I
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: guess you don't. You don't really know how how how
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: small the margins really are.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: What do you think about there being like AI instead
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: of the umpires? Do you think that would helps the game? Yeah?
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: I mean I don't think it is a thing happening,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: but like talking.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: About it, they're doing it in the or I guess
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: MLB spring training is doing it now where there's like
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: an AI strike zone where like hitters, catchers, or pitchers
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: can like challenge the pitch to see if it was
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: in that zone.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: So there's still an umpire calling. Y.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Yes, you have like limited challenges uh per game. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: do like it, I mean especially like I like it
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: more like when I feel like I have a miscall.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: But I also I do like the human component to it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like that's baseball human error.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, realistically you could play out there with no umpires
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: or but I mean I think I think that just
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: kind of adds to the experience. And I mean sometimes
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: they're they're gonna make you mad, that's just how it is.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: But I think I think it adds to it for sure.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: That would be crazy if it was all like automated
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: though completely AI.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like there are parts of sports that like
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you could kind of but like at the same time,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: like you want to keep it like traditional.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: To how it's supposed to be. I think tennis has
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: adopted some of that, like on the line.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we should adopt it as I don't know.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: How your son. I feel like volleyball could with the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: line stuff too, just like out of bounds or not right.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Well, because there's like people that do the book and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: stuff like I feel like that could maybe be AI
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and like the score and definitely with like the lines.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: But so the whole thing.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like still need people to like watch
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the net.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah there's still happening there, but if it hit the
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: line and it's out of bounds, like those things can
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: help the challengers or something.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: I agree, well, because sometimes you have bias too going
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: into it, like as a as an umpire, as a
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: RAF or as something. Don't you have.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: We're just trying to see the smallest thing in live time.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Like I think too, when you see the replay on
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: the board if you're watching on TV, it's really easy
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: because now we've seen it ten times from ten different
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: angles orthing that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in real life.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Something that I learned that blew my mind is when
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you see it on the screen, like if they're replaying
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: the point and they're challenging it, it's not actually what
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: like the umpire or the ref is seeing like the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: broadcast sometimes is different.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, this is their angle would be different, right, Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: So I guess like when you're talking about it and
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you're seeing it, it's like, oh, it's so obvious, but
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: like you could be seeing like a totally different.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: View, Like a ref is not going to try to
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: get it wrong. No, they're human sometimes, I mean sometimes
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: they are wrong, but most of the time there's something crazy.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's basketball, but it's like you know, everyone else
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: at refs, but they're usually right like ninety some percent
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: of the time.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: But if you ask, like a common fans.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Like the refs are terrible, the refs, like we're in
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the game, I was like, actually, they were right, yeah,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: most of the time.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because when I was watching a football
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: game this year and there was a certain ref that
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: it was like Eagles versus the forty nine ers, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: like a certain referee was like an Eagles fan and
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: grew up an Eagles Eagles fan, and like how many
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: times like the Eagles have won against another team with
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: him being the ref was like significantly larger than any
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: other game he reffed. So it was it was like
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: kind of interesting to hear about that. I know, that's
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: not like very I know that's a little controversial, and
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: like maybe I shouldn't call him out.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they liked yeah, yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they did too. But I thought it was
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: like very interesting, like Obviously you're a human. You have
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: feelings and you have a big job to do. Like
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: there's some sort of like the heat human bias that
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: like could come in. Yeah, Like you know, like that
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: even happens like in judging too. Like you may have
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: seen like a post from like some athlete or something
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: where they like did this and you're like, oh, that's
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: the girl who did this, and like you know their
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: face and you go to the game so many times,
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: you know, yeah, you're more likely to give a certain
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: score the way you feel about them. I don't know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some science behind it. Yeah, I could
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: never be a.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Refer No, I've I've messed around with reffing a little bit,
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: a little bit in my day.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: I've officiated basketball, football and baseball, something I did in
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: high school just to kind of earn some some money
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: on the side.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: And I've definitely.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: From being a home played umpire, I've definitely learned that
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: it is harder than you would think, even with twelve
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: year olds on the mound pitching. So that was definitely
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: a perspective thing. Like you usould get so mad at
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: umpires and officials and then after I actually did it,
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, like I can I see why
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: this is hard, why mistakes are made, Like I understand.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, yeah, I think I reffed like eight you
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: or six U basketball in high school and I think
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: I made it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Like one weekend, I'm like, I'm out. I'm not getting
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: yelled at.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Respect to the rest and to the umpires because they
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: have a very very hard job and they're literally based
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: on like perfection too, so.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: When they're also judged, like there's also people making sure
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: they're doing their jobs right and while getting out at
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: while in the pressure of a game.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: I know, kind of putting your shoes, yourself in their shoes.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: You're kind of like, oh, like I'm getting hate on
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: by the bands, I'm getting judged by the team. This
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: team may not like me, but I still have to
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: do my job. It's a hard life, so respect.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And even in club volleyball, we would like if you
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: were resting or you weren't playing, you would have to
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: ref that court. So like, however old you are, like
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen, sixteen seventeen, like you're line judging and
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: like all the parents are like getting so upset.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I don't not even good, like I noally, I'm sorry.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: That reminds me of like playing tennis with like your
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: friend or something and you're like out, like it was
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: out and you're like, are you sure it was out,
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: and like I don't know.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's goods heated kind of switching gears a
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: little bit. You're wearing your TLA zip up.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You are in sack.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: You've been in leadership. What is it like now being
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: an upperclassman?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: You know, you got some.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Younger pitchers, younger players on the team transfers.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: What's that leadership transition growth for you?
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of it is for me,
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: at least, I'm trying to guide those guys into kind
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: of finding their own way because you can't. You don't
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: want to force something on like on people, like you
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: don't need to exactly tell them like oh, you need
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: to do this, this and this to get better, like
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: at least in baseball, like.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Every player is.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: Like one of one, Like there's so it's so unique
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: in that you almost like you're giving them guidance, but
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: you're not necessarily telling them exactly what they need to do.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: Like myself, like when I went from that reliever to
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: starting spot.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: It was like in my head, I was like, oh,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I need.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: To throw six innings this game, because that's like what
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: kind of like the expectation of a starter is. And
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: then just from like the guys around me, it was
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: like I learned that like you can't really think about
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: it that way, Like you got to think like one
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: inning at a time. So like I think back to
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: back to when I got that advice, Like I want
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: to be able to give advice to the younger guys
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: or even I mean even the older guys, Like it's
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: every everyone needs everyone needs help, Like I need help sometimes,
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: Like it's just how it is. And mostly just kind
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: of given advice. And then uh kind of learned that
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: each person responds to leadership differently, and there's different ways
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: that you need to need to lead people. Some people
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: you're more more starring with, other people you're more you're
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: kind of nicer with and kind of just learning, learning
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: everybody and kind of how they respond to respond to
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: leadership and then being able to actually do that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: How do you feel like you've grown in your leadership
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: style from let's say freshman year to now.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think as a freshman I mean, obviously most
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: freshmen aren't gonna really speak up and say anything, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: you're kind of you're always asking questions, not really knowing,
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: not really knowing what you're doing. So just being the
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: being the older person now and kind of understanding the
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: flow of things. I almost try to try to get
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: ahead of that. Like sometimes you can look at someone
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: and know they're going to ask a question on like
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: what are we supposed to be doing right now, So
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: it's like instead of waiting for that to come, you
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: kind of attack it before it gets there and you're
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: just like, all right, everyone, we're going to we're going here,
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: or just kind of that's.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Sort of stuff.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: Were there any players when you were a freshman that
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: you like looked up to on the team? I kind
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: of set the tone for how you want it to be.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: I think Nick Clayton was kind of someone that I
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: really I really looked up to, and then ty Ollen
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: Chuck was another another big one, and I think he
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: he really stands out because when you think of when
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: you think of leaders, you think of the best players. Yeah,
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: and kind of like just you know, the guys that
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: are going to be in the game a lot, and
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: and that wasn't that wasn't him like he was. He
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: was just had the most energy, the most caring guy.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: And I think that that is a big part of leadership.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: And they those two kind of kind of took me
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: in as a freshman, and so I try to I
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: try to do that with the younger guys too, Like
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: they made me feel involved in everything and it just made
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: me a lot happier.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Awesome, that's so special.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Anything else you want to share with the Clemson fans
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: about yourself?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: You would want Clemson fans to know about you?
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Your legacy?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't really don't really got much else.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: Here.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: What do you want to leave?
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah? What do you want your legacy to be when
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: you leave Clemson?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: I want to leave as a as a national champion.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: I want this this baseball team to to win its
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: first national championship.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but what's it I have? Sorry, I have another
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: question that was supposed to be like anyways. I wanted
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: to ask, like, you guys have made it so far.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: You guys have won multiple like ACC championships. What is
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: that process like trying to figure out how to get
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: to Omaha?
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: I think Uh, I mean we've been We've been close
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: the three years that I've been here, and I guess
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: when you when that final play happens, it's like you
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: get this immediate look back at like, oh, I mean
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: at least for me, Like when the season ends, it's
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: like what could I have done? Like what else could
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: I have done to help the team move on? Whether
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: that's playing or even like being in the bunker, Like
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: if I would have noticed something, would that have made
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: us better? So just trying to trying to not have
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: that regret and like there's not think that there's something
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: else I could have done. Just kind of always be
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: be willing to do anything and everything that it is
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: to make the team better and make myself better and
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: just make sure that we were not falling short of
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: of where we could go.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: And I feel like you guys always have, like you're
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: so intentional about everything that you guys do, Like whether
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: it's the time you guys show up or you guys
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: have like omaha on the back of your hats, like
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: you are very intended to do that. So like it
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: is a team, team effort and all in, but can't
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: can't let it fall on one shoulder.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like it's very little thing too, Like
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: the fueling, the hydrating, the being, the being at the field,
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: like all of that stuff like plays a part into
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: the team being successful. So I feel like you guys
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: do a great job of that.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Well, where can people find you on social media?
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: You can find me on Instagram at drew Underscore Hitsworth,
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: and I think my Twitter is the same thing.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, thank you for coming on.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, awesome