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With Further Ado Episode #7: The Great Marsupial Rebellion of 1998 · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 1: Tell me if this sounds familiar.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to a podcast, attending a presentation, or watching
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  Speaker 2: a live stream, and after a whole bunch of chatter,
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  Speaker 2: the hosts finally get around to the reason for the
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  Speaker 2: whole shebang, saying without further ado, it happens all the
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  Speaker 2: time at almost every event going back to the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of recorded history. But what happens at the host never
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  Speaker 2: actually get to the main attraction. What if the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing were just the ado?
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  Speaker 1: This is that show. So it's the month of May,
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  Speaker 1: so I've got a question for you. The kind of
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  Speaker 1: relates to the month of May. It's also kind of
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  Speaker 1: an offbeat anniversary. Remember that segment idea that I pitched
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  Speaker 1: a while back. Offbeat anniversaries or not like clean like
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  Speaker 1: a twenty five or a fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Or a five or a ten or yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that we normally celebrate. So both related to
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  Speaker 1: May and an offbeat anniversary. On May twenty eighth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty nine, sixty six years ago, Oh okay, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna okay, two animals became the first.
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  Speaker 4: So let me say, on May twenty eighth, nineteen fifty nine,
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  Speaker 4: sixty six years ago, two animals became the first living
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  Speaker 4: beings to travel to space and return safely.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of animals were.
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  Speaker 3: They in sixty six?
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  Speaker 1: No, sixty six years ago, nineteen fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Nine, Like that would have made any difference to me?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Your answer, Like I would have known it had it
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  Speaker 3: been ninety six.
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  Speaker 1: They were handling animals differently in sixty six.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big that's a big deciding factor of which
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  Speaker 3: animals I choose. I I don't know. I thinks mice.
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  Speaker 1: That is incorrect.
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  Speaker 3: Monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: There were monkeys. Yeah, they were monkeys.
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  Speaker 3: I was originally gonna say monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: Two different kinds of monkeys. They were a racis monkey
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  Speaker 1: and a squirrel monkey. But they're both monkeys. Why did
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  Speaker 1: you thought it was too obvious to say monkeys? Is
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  Speaker 1: that why you backed off of it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I mean I think would have been better
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  Speaker 3: if the monkeys were named Reece's and pieces.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, so, I guess you don't know the
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  Speaker 1: monkey's names.
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  Speaker 3: Is it? Didn't you say it was Rece's and No?
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  Speaker 1: No, that's the type of monkeys.
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  Speaker 3: They are.
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  Speaker 1: A racis monkey and a squirrel monkey. I get it now, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: their names were able and miss Baker able and Miss Baker. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They went into space with the Pioneering Space Mission X
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  Speaker 1: one as part of the US Air Force's space exploration efforts.
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  Speaker 1: The purpose of the mission was to test how animals
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  Speaker 1: reacted to the space environment, a precursor to human space exploration.
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  Speaker 1: So they went. Their flight lasted about sixteen minutes. They
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  Speaker 1: got an altitude about three hundred miles, which I think
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  Speaker 1: might have been where Tom Cruise got in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of top Gun Raverick. Unfortunately, you know, after
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  Speaker 1: the mission they were in good condition, but it seemed
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  Speaker 1: like Able passed away not long after the mission due
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  Speaker 1: to complications from anesthesia during a medical procedure, which sounds
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  Speaker 1: a little sus to me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure it does.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But miss Baker the squirrel monkey lived for another
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  Speaker 1: twenty five years and became a celebrated figure in American
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  Speaker 1: space history. Talk about a tale of two monkeys. One
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  Speaker 1: monkey dies right afterwards, sounds like related to the mission,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be honest, and it's you know, just
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  Speaker 1: kind of forgotten in time. This other one is like
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  Speaker 1: a hero. They've got like a statue of Miss Baker
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  Speaker 1: at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: Now do you think Abel was like, I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 3: everybody what you're doing here, and they killed him.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance. Do you think they
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  Speaker 1: came to miss Baker and they're like, listen, you get
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  Speaker 1: all the glory, you'll live a sweet life. It'll be cushy,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be great. Take the money. And Miss Baker's like,
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  Speaker 1: where do I sign?
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  Speaker 3: You know, at first she was a little squirrely about it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but she took the money.
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  Speaker 1: Either that or squirrel monkeys are just a little thumber,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like squirrels.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I've seen some really smart squirrels. You know.
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  Speaker 3: One squirrel comes over to our yard, always sits on
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  Speaker 3: the little picnic bench, eats his little corn on the
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  Speaker 3: cob right there.
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  Speaker 1: Why does it have corn in the cob?
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  Speaker 3: Because my wife buys a corn on the cob by
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  Speaker 3: the bag. They ship them in bags corn cobs. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Does the squirrel hold the corn cob and like eat
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  Speaker 1: it like a person?
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  Speaker 3: No, there's like a little picnic bench that's nailed to
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  Speaker 3: the fence, okay, yeah, and it's got a little thing
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  Speaker 3: in it, and you put the corn on the cobpike
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  Speaker 3: on the spike, and then he just sits there.
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  Speaker 1: And my mom hates the squirrels because she likes to
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  Speaker 1: feed the birds and they steal, they steal from the
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  Speaker 1: bird feeders.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had some problems there. We had to talk
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  Speaker 3: to the squirrels and be like, look, man, this is
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  Speaker 3: not gonna have it anymore. Okay, you're gonna let it go.
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  Speaker 1: M you gotta stick to your food. The problem with
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  Speaker 1: feeding squirrels, though, is once you start, how did it start,
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  Speaker 1: Where did it come from? We've been tossed into another segment.
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  Speaker 3: They're not even segments.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't know why we call them segments.
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  Speaker 3: This is not scripted, it's not no, it's just like
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  Speaker 3: natural flowing conversation. If you haven't visited this cast before
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  Speaker 3: and this is your first episode, I just like to
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  Speaker 3: take a moment to reach out and talk to you
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  Speaker 3: for a minute, dear listener. A couple of Joe's over here.
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  Speaker 3: We're not actually named Joe, but we are, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just having a conversation seeing where it goes. Very natural,
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  Speaker 3: free flowing conversation that eventually, you know, will get us
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  Speaker 3: to our topic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, things always get somewhere. What we have here right now?
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  Speaker 1: How did it start? Where did it come from? What
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  Speaker 1: is this? What are we doing here?
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  Speaker 3: So? Yeah, in a previous episode, we thought, what if
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  Speaker 3: we have something where we explain the origins of a
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  Speaker 3: thing that exists in the world. Anything, not a segment, no,
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  Speaker 3: just a thing. What if we just make this up
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  Speaker 3: right on the fly and we talk about the origins
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  Speaker 3: of something that exists in the world. Trends, products, activities,
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  Speaker 3: you name it. Anything. It could be anything anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's very wide open.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how did it start?
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  Speaker 1: Where did it come from?
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  Speaker 3: You might notice a little difference between this podcast episode
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  Speaker 3: and Speaking Human or another podcast we're on, because it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have to be marketing related. It doesn't have to.
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  Speaker 1: Be Yeah, and those are much you know, tighter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, planned, yeah, planned this one.
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  Speaker 1: We're at the mercy the will of you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of comes.
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  Speaker 3: About, yeah, hopefully getting to a topic, the.
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  Speaker 1: Topic at hand. Yeah, exactly. I mean we haven't we
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  Speaker 1: have a central idea, So what do you you know?
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  Speaker 1: What do you got for? How did it start? Where
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  Speaker 1: did it come from? Cotton ed Joe?
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  Speaker 3: Where did it come from? Cottonad Joe? I thought i'd
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  Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the AI Action figures. It's
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  Speaker 3: a thing. Some called it the Barbie Box Challenge. It
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  Speaker 3: has multiple names, but it's essentially the same thing. What
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  Speaker 3: is it. It's basically where you give it a prompt
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  Speaker 3: and a picture and then it spits out an image
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  Speaker 3: of you in a action figure box with like little accessories.
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  Speaker 3: This whole thing kind of swept up like it was
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  Speaker 3: literally like three four weeks just boh, I mean, just
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  Speaker 3: blowing up. It started off you'd see like one person
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  Speaker 3: would post a picture of them in a you know,
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  Speaker 3: action figure box. Another person would post it, and then
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  Speaker 3: it just became like it felt like everybody was doing it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not just Facebook. It was people on LinkedIn,
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  Speaker 3: real professionals, yeah, professionals. And it became this oh, here's
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  Speaker 3: me at my job kind of thing. There was a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of people who have said things about it, people saying,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like this is a great way to reintroduce
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  Speaker 3: yourself to your employees or to your target audience. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why that would reintroduce yourself to someone. Did
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  Speaker 3: you do this, by the way, Shad, did you try this.
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  Speaker 1: Do the action figure?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't, have you I know you have no Oh
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  Speaker 1: what I thought for.
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  Speaker 3: Sure you had no No research was involved. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: actually do it, even though I should have probably done
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  Speaker 3: it for the show, just to say I had done it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe because I didn't want to jump on the trend.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's so big now, because it's such a thing.
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  Speaker 1: I heard about this way late. I gotta be honest.
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  Speaker 1: I heard about this like a week ago, after the
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  Speaker 1: wave had already swept America.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's funny about this thing is, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: like any other trend, it blew up very big, became
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  Speaker 3: very viral. But just like everything that's artificial intelligence, it
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  Speaker 3: has this like sort of controversy that surrounds it because
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  Speaker 3: you know, you've got the people doing it for fun
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  Speaker 3: or for whatever reason I guess is in the backstory
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  Speaker 3: of their lives why they're doing it. But then you
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  Speaker 3: have like people talking about the motives. This is AI
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  Speaker 3: scraping your data. You're basically feeding it. You know, your
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  Speaker 3: picture is just one element of that. But it's like
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  Speaker 3: favorite things and blah blah blah, whatever it is that's
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  Speaker 3: special about you. And then it's learning and people are like,
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  Speaker 3: that's not good. So there's all kinds of articles and
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  Speaker 3: stuff written out there about how to do it, where
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  Speaker 3: it came from or whatever. Here's what I just want
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  Speaker 3: to say. Okay, nobody knows the true source, like the
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  Speaker 3: original poster of this, because this is where I was
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  Speaker 3: really trying to get to. Yeah, even if you ask
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  Speaker 3: open AI, you ask chat GPT, who was the original
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  Speaker 3: social poster, you can't find it on any search result
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  Speaker 3: or anything. Because it became such a very big thing
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  Speaker 3: very quickly. Like it's like one of those viral moments
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  Speaker 3: that happened within three weeks and it's then just a
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  Speaker 3: aperated And that's what's so crazy about it. So nobody
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  Speaker 3: could pinpoint the first person to run the query or
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  Speaker 3: to input the prompt and then post it on social.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when there's so many copycasts it is, it's almost
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  Speaker 1: impossible to like even figure it out. In this the
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  Speaker 1: pre AI era, which now things have like escalated the
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  Speaker 1: speed of you know how these things are taken off.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I saw this post in Media Posts, which is
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  Speaker 3: like a website. It was a commentary piece, but the
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  Speaker 3: writer wrote, as they do, as they do. What started
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  Speaker 3: as a sharp, funny piece of AI generated content quickly
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  Speaker 3: turned into something else. A cautionary tale about overexposure. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was really interesting because she was talking
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  Speaker 3: about this idea of like these viral moments they happened
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  Speaker 3: so quickly, like this sort of flame that they burned
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  Speaker 3: too fast, and they're just and they are gone because
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  Speaker 3: people are so tired by the end. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: this thing was like.
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  Speaker 1: All that being said, I get it, I get you know,
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  Speaker 1: I get why it was a trend. Right. You can
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  Speaker 1: see why people would see it and be like, I
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  Speaker 1: want to do that because it looks like, oh, it's fun,
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  Speaker 1: and I would like to see I want to see
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  Speaker 1: myself as an action figure. You know, you get the
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  Speaker 1: response that people would have, But this one even like
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  Speaker 1: more so it's like I want to see what I get,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I want to see what
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  Speaker 1: my output looks like or something like that. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I get why I went viral, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I get why that was a thing. And I guarantee
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  Speaker 1: they'll be like four hundred more of these things too,
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  Speaker 1: because you have this tool now where you can like
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  Speaker 1: just input this and get it out and everybody can
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, look what I did, and then somebody
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  Speaker 1: else would be like, oh, I want to try that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely giving us a lot of things to
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  Speaker 3: play with.
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  Speaker 1: So my focus was in a different space. Okay, yours
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  Speaker 1: was on, you know, the online realm. I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 1: the outside world. As I mentioned, it's spring. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: grass is starting to grow. I've gone on this brant
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  Speaker 1: a little bit before. But that also means like weeds
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  Speaker 1: are popping up or starting to get the dandelions you're sprouting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I, like others, sometimes fixate on those little
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  Speaker 1: bastards marring my beautiful green carpet. Oh yeah, which sort
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  Speaker 1: of leads me to wonder, is this a natural behavior
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  Speaker 1: or have I been conditioned by society and marketing to
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  Speaker 1: think this way? In a nutshell, how did it start?
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  Speaker 3: The weeds themselves?
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  Speaker 1: Just this like idea of we need to remove weeds
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  Speaker 1: from our lawn, right, Okay, not the weeds themselves. That's
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  Speaker 1: probably farther back than we can go, probably. So. The
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  Speaker 1: idea of a lawn, particularly for decorative purposes, merged in
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth century Europe, particularly France and England. Wealthy landowners began
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  Speaker 1: to use grass covered areas as esthetic features in their gardens.
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  Speaker 1: This was particularly true for the formal gardens of Renaissance
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  Speaker 1: France and later the Baroque period. Now, these early lawns
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  Speaker 1: were a sign of wealth and status since one, most
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  Speaker 1: people you know, were working in agriculture at the time,
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  Speaker 1: so you had to be able to afford to have
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  Speaker 1: land that you weren't producing anything on. So if you
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  Speaker 1: had a you know, you had a little lawn here,
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  Speaker 1: that meant you're rich enough that you didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: be grown a crops on it. And two, maintaining a lush,
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  Speaker 1: trimmed grassy area was labor intensive. You know, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: before the Industrial Revolution. There's no lawnmowers around. First, push lawnmower,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't come around till eighteen thirty. So people in
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  Speaker 1: the sixteenth century were using grazing animals like sheeps or
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  Speaker 1: cows to help control the height of their grass. So
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  Speaker 1: you're not having a lot at this point. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're maintaining in ways you can. You got this grassy area,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a little more free. So when did people start,
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  Speaker 1: you know, actually taking weeds out of their lawns. The
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  Speaker 1: concept of weed control on lawns grew more significant with
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  Speaker 1: the advent of the nineteenth century, particularly in the Victorian era,
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  Speaker 1: when the rise of the middle class increased urbanization, meaning
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  Speaker 1: people had access to smaller plots of lands, and then
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  Speaker 1: maintaining a neat lawn became a popular pastime. In the
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  Speaker 1: late eighteen hundreds, as guarding and landscaping became more formalized,
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  Speaker 1: the desire to control weeds using manual methods like hand weeding,
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  Speaker 1: and eventually chemical methods began to take off. Weed control
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  Speaker 1: as we understand it today, involving herbicides and more systematic
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  Speaker 1: approaches to lawn maintenance became widespread in the twentieth century. This,
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  Speaker 1: of course, spelled trouble for honassuming plants like the dandelion.
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  Speaker 1: Once praised for its usefulness, it was used in food, medicine,
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  Speaker 1: and even magic. Oh okay, and there was a time
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  Speaker 1: when gardeners would actually weed out the grass to make
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  Speaker 1: room for the dandelions. Can we believe that? Now? It's
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  Speaker 1: the villain of lawns everywhere? A report on the dandelions
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  Speaker 1: fall from Grace from Chicago's WTTW said this, the dandelion
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  Speaker 1: is the unwelcome interloper, not just a blot on perfection,
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  Speaker 1: but a symbol of neglect and even poverty, small wonder
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  Speaker 1: that people feel compelled to annihilate all trace of taraxicum
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  Speaker 1: a ficinale lest they be judged as lazy or lacking
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  Speaker 1: in means. So there is an alternative school of thought where,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's this small, small group of people who says,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just let the weeds grow. They're good for
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  Speaker 1: the soil. But there's not a lot of room for
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  Speaker 1: that out there, thinking in a lot of the suburbs
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  Speaker 1: where people use lawn services and try to keep everything
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  Speaker 1: green and the same. But my question is, are we
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  Speaker 1: really getting rid of the weeds? As one Reddit user
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  Speaker 1: put it, grass is just a weed. We decided we.
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  Speaker 3: Like, m isn't that the truth?
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  Speaker 1: Though? I mean it is. It's a weird I sometimes
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  Speaker 1: look out and I'm like, how did we just pick
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  Speaker 1: this thing? We're like, this is the one mm hm,
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  Speaker 1: you know, out of all these things that grow there,
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  Speaker 1: We're like, this is the one we want to grow there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think about that all the time, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's such a weird thing that we've clenched, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so hard to is this idea of a well manicured
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  Speaker 3: lawn and it has to look a certain way, and
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  Speaker 3: it has to do a certain thing otherwise you look
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  Speaker 3: lazy or you know, poor, poor or poor. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: have people in our neighborhood are growing a wild lawn.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've seen that, but basically people
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  Speaker 3: who just say, no, I'm never going to keep my
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  Speaker 3: lawn up. I'm never going to do anything. So weeds
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  Speaker 3: and they don't mow it.
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  Speaker 1: They don't mow it at all. They just let it
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  Speaker 1: go long, to let it go long. I couldn't do it. No, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the weeds to you know, some extent, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if I could just let it
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  Speaker 1: go long. What about a lawn that was just entirely dandylions?
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  Speaker 1: Could you go for that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't I like the look of dandylions. I think
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  Speaker 3: they look like a flower. Honestly, I like.
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  Speaker 1: The top of them. Their base is I don't love
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  Speaker 1: the base of the dandelion.
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  Speaker 3: Are you talking about like just the weed looking bass? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's very thick. Oh okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You don't like thick bottoms on the weeds.
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  Speaker 1: Like the fat bottoms on those we bottom weeds, fat
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: bottom wheels.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: So where'd you find all that information on the history
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: of lawns.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You know, various resources throughout the web, multiple different places.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Don't tell me you used Wikipedia.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: John Wikipedia Trivia, John Wikipedia Trivia.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: This is a I can't believe we're we're in a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: spot where we're doing something we've already done before. It's
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: almost becoming repetitive. Would you say, shad, I.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Would it's back someone. You can call it a fan
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: favorite or a sequel.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you haven't listened to this cast before, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I gotta just assume you have. But I you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I think you should assume they haven't.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, just assume they haven't. Yeah, you think people start
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: on number five? This is where people come into shows.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: This is seven.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is seven.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I do think they start on five. It's true they
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: should start on five because usually five is when it gets.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Good, except for in this case, seven is where it
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: actually starts to get good.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: So, if you didn't hear the last time we talked
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: about this, the John Wikipedia Trivia not a segment. Uh huh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: big disclaimer there.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a feeling.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a feeling. So the trivia is
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: this whole thing is we ask each other a question.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: It's centered around characters with the first name John, in
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: honor of John Wick, who was played by Keanu Reeves.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: They're not necessarily connected to Keanu Reeves, but they can be.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But it might have to be connected.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: But it might have to be connected. We haven't decided,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: but we're thinking about this. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go first. You ready, you're gonna ask me
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: or you're gonna get asked. I don't know. Do you
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: want to ask me first?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I have no preference. You want to ask me first?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna. I got a good one. All right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: So this is how I played this out. I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I was telling you. So my John is connected to
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Keanu And here's how. So this actor played a ruthless
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: gunslinger named John Herod in a nineteen ninety five western
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: directed by Sam Raimi. A few years later, he found
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: himself on the sidelines coaching a ragtag football team led
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: by a future neo who we all know as Keanu.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Can you name the actor?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to name an actor.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Who played John Herod in a nineteen ninety five western
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: directed by Sam Rami. So he's connected to Keanu through
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a movie where he's coaching a ragtag football team.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I I do know who that is. That is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I want to name the actor. It's what I need
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you go to name the actor.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: The actor is Gene Hackman.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Rip rip, yep, you got it. The two movies I
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: should now tell you at all. It was The Quick
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and the Dead in ninety five and The Replacements.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Great movie. Quick in the Dead low.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It Do you love that?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Did you like the Replacements?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I don't remember much about the Replacements.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I like the Replacements. It's like a fun It's it's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: a real light movie, you know, like easy movie. In
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: the Replacements, Keanu Reeves character in that Shane Falco, which
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: that's a good name. He's a quarterback with a shaky
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: pass but a heart of gold. Neither of those movies
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: did great. The Quick and the Dead only made eighteen
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: million dollars in ninety five, which is not a good takeaway,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and then The Replacements domestic was like forty four million,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: which I guess isn't horrible.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I mean mid nineties that is a decent All right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: are you ready for my John Wikipedia trivia I am.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I'm so ready.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So let's keep with Gene Hackman here. Okay, So this
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: actor also starred with Gene Hackman in a nineteen ninety
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: three film, and then went on to play Chief John
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Anderton in a two thousand and two film set in
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the future. Can you name the actor and movie?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's Tom Cruise and Minority Report. Yes, yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: he played with Gene Hackman in Is that The Firm?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yea yeah, look at your good on all counts.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's a follow up question. Which movie do you
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: like more? The Firm or Minority Report?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Oh? Minority Report? Okay, all right, Yeah, I like The Firm.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a while, though I could, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: can't say how much I really like it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I'm always curious because those movies, you know that they
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: had a lot of clout at the time, how they
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: hold up later on. The Firm did much better at
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the box office, I would say, and Minority Report than
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the two movies that I mentioned.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yours were on the lower end, or you're mid,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I would say, you know mid, that's what That's what
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was good about the nineties, though you had those movies
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that were like fifty million westerns.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You know westerns because here's the thing about The Quick
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and the Dead. It had Gene Hackman in it, who
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: was like a people could picture him in that movie.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Sharon Stone not so much.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: The cast is loaded.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: It is, but it's such a weird. Like I feel
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: like the mid nineties westerns.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Were just no, they weren't. I mean there's still much.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: They had their heyday, you know, but they just like
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: every so often they come back and you'll get a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: good western with like a bunch of people in it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that does well generally.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough can be a tough sell. But yeah,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that was a good That's a good one.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: You know what else is a tough cell?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Well? Nothing, because we don't sell anything on this program. Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: we don't sell anything. We don't you know, we don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: have segments.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Put this be a segment. Why don't they just stick
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: with one thing? Man?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: What's with these guys?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: So listen, I'm super excited about today because I have
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: If everyone who has listened to this podcast knows, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: towards the end, when we get to the actual topic,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: we usually the.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Time when yeah, running out, we are on the clock
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: around the clock.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: We are because we know we have a definitive amount
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: of time. We're not gonna hold you up like a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: three hour movie. You're like, oh my god, I'm waiting.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I'm watching the dandelions grow. Okay, I'm watching the dandallions grow.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm turning to seeds and they're drifting away.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: So we pitch each other an idea for a new
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: segment on the show. And you know, this whole podcast
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: is free flowing. We give ourselves a little nudge here
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: or there. Where are we going to go next? We
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the idea is, if we did segments, could
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: this be one of them?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Correct? And today I'm really excited because I have a
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: perfect name for a segment.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, a perfect name or a perfect segment.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Perfect name, possibly perfect segment. Okay, the segment's called. And
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: now a word from come spam.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: You love spam?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I do. I love spam. Here's what I don't love
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the can of spam. Don't get me wrong, listeners, not
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the craziness of
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: what is spam, emails, phone calls. I mean, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I hate it. Don't get me wrong, I hate it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: It's just like the rest of us out there right,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the rest of the world, except for the guys who
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: are actually doing it, I hate it too. They probably
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: do it like I hate this job. But what I
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: like is there's just so much weirdness that happens in spam.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: So my idea for the segment is to just come
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to the segment with then this is what makes it easy.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Barrier to entry is just super super simple. Just come
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: with some spam that you have received, which is a plethora, yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: that you think is weird, right, It could be anything.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: It could be email, it could be a it could
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: be a voicemail. I have some of those.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I might start answering my calls just to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: get some of.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: This, just to get some of those you are being recorded,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: because we'd have to tell them, you know, even though
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: they're like breaking a law by spamming, just so you
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: know this is going to be on a podcast, they're
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: like they're they're like, I don't even know what that is.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So I came with a couple as an example because
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I just keep I keep stuff like this. This is gold.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: You know, you love spam. One I'm not going to
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: read the whole thing, the whole Some of the emails
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: are long, but this one, you know, it's it's always
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit of like the language barrier, generally speaking
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: is pretty bad. And some of these are old, like
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: this email is from twenty fourteen. I went that far back,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: over a decade. Yeah, it says good day to you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I am a banker with China Guangfa Bank. I am
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: sincerely sorry for bugging into your privacy. It's due to
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: a business deal. I am the chief risk officer and
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: executive director of China Guang Fab Bank in Hong Kong.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I want to present you as the owner of forty
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: nine point five million dollars in my bank. Since I
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: am the only one aware of the funds due to
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: my investigations, please grant me the benefit of doubt and
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: hear me out. I liked the rhyme there at the
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: end right regards James aol address. By the way, super nice,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: super super smart way to send that I like.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Please grant me the benefit of doubt. I'm gonna start
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: using it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Hear me out and hear me out. Here's another good one. Hello,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: mister dependable talking to me.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Oh you're mister dependable.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, big bold letters. I am Tanya and I am
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: in search of my personal mister dependable. Are you the one? Well,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I hope that you are. Most girls are in search
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: of one. You know where this is going. It is
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: very important for us girls to have someone who is
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: there for you in any situation in life. I am
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: from Russia, and here girls love to have someone who cares,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: loves and pampers you so that they feel secure and blessed.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, blessed, surprised.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Russian girls know how to be the loved ones. We
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: understand men to the core and we love make a
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: man feel satisfied in every aspect of family life. See.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I really like that she went with family life.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, she took it out there and then she
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: pulled it back in.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Thought it was dirty. It's not look family life.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It's family life. If you long to find one among us,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: or maybe you want to find me itself, join this
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: site where I have registered myself in search of my
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: mister dependable. Come on, click now, is what it says. Okay, No,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: for real, that's the worst. Yeah, Aurora sent that to me.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: By the way, that was twenty fifteen, so I'm really
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: going back.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think Aurora is doing? Do you think she's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: all right? Did she find somebody?
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I really hope she found her. Mister Dependable, you should.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Right her back and be like, did you you still
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: looking earth? What's happening?
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: The biggest the biggest thing I can take aways like,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and this is one of the reasons why I picked
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: old ones. I thought that the Mister Dependable was for
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the most part, pretty well written. There was some little flubs,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and that's where you could always pinpoint. But now with AI,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like you're gonna get some really good ones.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: It's it's hard to make out the spam right because
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the language barrier is really what makes them fun, because
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: you're like, come on, come on, how did you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So now you'd probably click.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would definitely click. So what do you think
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: of that? I think it's fun, it's pretty good, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: you're right low barrier to entry. You know we all
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: have them.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: No, that's good. I think that's that's an automatic in.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: It's a green flag, that's a go.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I like it. All right, thank you for accepting my offer.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I've got one that I think you're also gonna like
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's fully formed. I think it's ready to go
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: another low barrier entry, and I think I think you're
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: gonna enjoy this one. Okay, the title maybe can use work,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: but the idea is solid. So this one is called
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: AI alternative Endings. And the idea for this is asking
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: AI for alternative endings to popular movies.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Hmm, okay.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: For example, I'll give you an example here. The request
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I gave was, can you provide an insane alternative ending
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to the movie Big? The movie Big being the movie
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: where Tom Hanks, well, he's a young kid who then
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you know, makes a wish to be big, and he
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden is Tom Hanks, and then he
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: has to live his life that way. Here's the response
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I got. After Josh Baskin played by Tom Hanks, has
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: made his wish at the Zoltar machine and turned back
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: into a kid, things seemed to be wrapping up nicely,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: but as he's about to leave the office where he
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: had been working as an adult, he stummles across something unexpected,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a mysterious ancient Zoltar artifact hidden in the back room
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of the toy company's basement. When Josh touches it. A
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: burst of strange energy surrounds him, and the machine activates
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: on its own, creating a rift in time and space. Suddenly,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the office is plunged into chaos. The ground shakes, papers
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: fly everywhere, and an explosion of color and light overwhelms
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the room. As the dust clears, Josh is no longer
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: in the toy company office. He's in a strange, dystopian
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: version of New York City, filled with futuristic tech, floating cars,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and neon lights. It's a world where toys have evolved
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: beyond imagination and humanity is now enslaved by their creations.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: The toys have turned against the people who once created them,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and the once benevolent Zoltar machine at the center of
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: this strange new reality now rules over a world of
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: animated sentient toy overlords.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, that's the ending for Big That's.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: The ending for Big Wow A twist. Some would say
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that you didn't expect or see coming.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I definitely didn't see that. I did not see that coming.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the second part of the segment title, I
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: did not see that coming.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Get kind of the idea. Yeah, we're using our friend
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: AI to see you know what kind of madness can
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you give us to this popular thing we love? How
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: can you change it and make it worse or better?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Your prompt was just give me an alternate ending, or.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: It was it an insane alternate.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, insane alternative ending.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you could, you know, say whatever you wanted.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Be funny if I was like, give me an alternative
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: ending for silence of the Lambs, and it turned into
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: the same ending that you just got, Like and Hannibal lecture,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the Zoltar.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Machine, dystopian future.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: The toy robots, overlords, Like, what's happening?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: But you could do give me a comedic ending to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: all the silence of the lambs.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Mmmm. He finds out it wasn't lotion in the basket after.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: All, and him and doctor Lecter and Clarice sit down
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: and eat a lamb.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Together, eat a lamb together? What is this?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It's lamb Claris, We've finally silenced them.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: That was a pretty good Uh, Anthony Hopkins, you did there?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Don't up? What do you? What do you think of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: this segment?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Though? I love it?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Could it be a segment?
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think for sure, that's that's definitely a segment.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: That's just like spam. It's super easy, you know, because
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: we don't. We don't prepare on this show, nor do
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: we want to. We never prepare. Everything's got to be
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: off the cuff, as.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It were, to segments, and we don't prepare.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because if we were doing any of that, it
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: would get any reason even do the cast. You know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the whole cast is about chaos, right, other.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Than well conversation fels mass soup eels scam me.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a little off kilter one that we
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: came up with off air before we started recording Whispering Walking.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about that one?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I mean we did in the beginning, didn't.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: We No, we didn't. I don't think we recorded. I
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: think we did a manity prize for its mother.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think we recorded that portion.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Did we? Or maybe we didn't. I didn't think we did.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I thought we were just hangos.