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- 0:01Hello everyone, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian Hew
- 0:04with Allison, and this is our special dating show on Valentine's Day. Happy
- 0:10Valentine's Oh, well like you? Happy Valentine's to you too? Yes?
- 0:17Are you planning anything? Well? I got, I got yeah, maybe,
- 0:23I mean we're we We've been fasting all day so for one and I
- 0:26think we're gonna eat. Lindsay is soaking in the bath right now, and
- 0:30we might if there's time, we may do some stream some tomb Raider because
- 0:38the new tomb Raider, essentially it's the first three tomb Raider games were remastered
- 0:43and those were Lindsay's favorite games from childhood, so she wants to play them
- 0:47and it just so happens. There's a lot of controversy around them because of
- 0:53because it's features a woman that they don't like in the way that they don't
- 0:58like her. I guess, so we can. We're gonna probably stream that
- 1:02on the Arcade Channel if if if Lindsay's feeling up to it and it's not
- 1:06too late or is it is it a boom Well, there's part that's part
- 1:11of it. Yes, lower Craft is obviously the old the old lawer Croft
- 1:15is obviously like problematic and too sexualized, even though polygons were limited back then.
- 1:25The triangular boob thing really bothers people. There's also apparently a lot of
- 1:27other issues because she's like going to like exotic places and healing art facts and
- 1:34you know, all that is very colonialist. So we'll we'll, I don't
- 1:42know if we're gonna get We're gonna try to get to that. Though.
- 1:44It feels synonymous with not wanting to have fun. Yeah, that's basically what
- 1:49it is. Yes, it's about not having fun and not allowing anyone well,
- 1:52more than not having fun. It's like that Marge Simpson me, like,
- 1:56you know, I don't like this, so I don't think you should
- 1:57be able to enjoy it either. No, but yeah, so personal taste
- 2:04as moral imperative. Yeah. Yeah. People are saying I thought they loved
- 2:07Lara Croft. No, they they hate Laura Croft, but they like their
- 2:13new kind of skin suited modern audience character that they happen to name Lara Croft.
- 2:20That doesn't really it's not really her, it's like somebody else. Just
- 2:24think in the game, the new game that came out that they well in
- 2:28particular is the new game is the new game? Uh you know because of
- 2:34the current era type character. Well, yeah, so they rebooted. They
- 2:38rebooted tomb Raider like in the I think it was like twenty fourteen round.
- 2:44The same time they rebooted God of War and they changed the character. They
- 2:50they they felt that she was too sexualized. They felt that because you know,
- 2:55she had large breasts, but I mean, I don't know where because
- 3:00if you like it was again it was the polygons were very limited, like
- 3:04you had to be you had to be able to show that this is a
- 3:07woman, and you were working with very limited tools, which means people had
- 3:12to be pretty creative. You know. You know one of the best costplays
- 3:15I've seen is a woman who literally costplayed as like, oh yeah, I
- 3:22don't know, sixty four bit. Oh yeah, I know what you're talking
- 3:24about. The the the the thirty two bit Lara Croft with the triangle,
- 3:30Yeah yeah, with the triangle boobs. Yeah yeah, that's that's good.
- 3:34That that that is very clever. Yeah. But this so so they come,
- 3:38I mean, we're spending too much time on this, but I'll just
- 3:40make you a quick explanation. So adyos the people who created the original Turm
- 3:46Rader trilogy, the first three Tom Rader games, that when after Lara Croft
- 3:53got rebooted, they tried to like reimagine her and make her more I don't
- 3:59know, less problematic, I guess, less of a less of a sexual
- 4:03objectified character, less of the less attracting the male gaze. But they couldn't
- 4:09change the character drastically, so instead they just made the game different. And
- 4:15I mean, those games are okay, but they don't feel like tomb Raider.
- 4:17Like tomb Raider was more about exploration and taking risks and all this,
- 4:21and it just happened to have a female protagonist. But they couldn't they couldn't
- 4:26square that circle. So this group of fans, very very big fans that
- 4:31knew how to code, they remastered the original three games so that they played
- 4:38similar in the same kind of gaming gameplay style, whereas the newer Law Across
- 4:42were a bit more They played more like another game series called Uncharted that featured
- 4:46a male protagonist. But I digress, and they wanted to get back to
- 4:50Formula and eighty os. Apparently we haven't booted up yet, but the first
- 4:55time you turned this game on, they there is a warning that a warning
- 5:00that some of the imagery you know, is like I don't know, like
- 5:05offensive, you might find it offensive or whatever, and and we're just like,
- 5:09okay, we're playing it. And of course Lindsay loves she loved those
- 5:13games. They're like her childhood, the old tomb Raider games. So I
- 5:15got it for her for Valentine's We're gonna hopefully we'll get to stream of today
- 5:20like after this show or maybe if not, maybe tomorrow. There you go,
- 5:25there's the applicability. Yeah, well yeah, we're absolutely gonna take advantage
- 5:29of this to have some Valentine fun with with Brian and Lindsay and tomb rab
- 5:35tomb Raider. Like all we really did today is Jonathan maybe the o G
- 5:40tom Raider. I got waffles. Waffles, Hey, waffles are nice.
- 5:45We had we had a little bit of sushi, but yeah, still hungry.
- 5:48So anyway, okay, so today's Today's I'm done with that. Uh
- 5:54And I hope you guys are having a good Valentine's or February fourteenth or the
- 5:59stream is making your Valentine's better, Yeah, tuning in and listening to us,
- 6:04So did you? Uh? Okay, So what I thought. I
- 6:08didn't. I didn't set up what we're doing today. I just said,
- 6:10hello, I'll set it up. I'll set up. So what I thought,
- 6:12because I was more like behind the the the I guess we both were.
- 6:16I think it's a joint effort. But okay, So what I thought
- 6:18I would to do today is we would cover at the end as like kind
- 6:23of a palate cleanser, shall we shall you say, a study that and
- 6:28this is actually an ongoing study. I'm pretty sure it's like from the life
- 6:31surveys that the US government does and that and their findings in regards to happiness
- 6:40and women and marriage versus single dum versus being divorced. So I thought that
- 6:45that would be nice as a chaser, because I know today there will either
- 6:49be a whole bunch of stuff that will make people feel alone, in particular
- 6:55men, or there will be a whole bunch of triumphalists crowing about how women
- 6:58don't need no men, and uh, I feel you know, let's let's
- 7:01let's counter that a bit. Let's uh actually say, I mean little preview.
- 7:06Uh, there is one thing that a woman can invest in that is
- 7:12probably going to improve her happiness more than anything. And it isn't a vibrator
- 7:17and a wine cellar. I'm just just laying that out there. It's it's
- 7:23something else. It's not those two things. Nor is it stocks and like
- 7:27kitty litter. Nope, it's something else. And we'll we'll we'll go through
- 7:30it at the end. But the other thing that we're doing, and you'll
- 7:34have to clue us in with this because it was actually your selection because I
- 7:39had a different selection, but then we decided we didn't want to go with
- 7:42total and utter rage bait. So there is this guy called Destiny and things
- 7:49have happened to him recently and uh and and he has had a he's had
- 7:55a conversation with Laurence, and we thought we would look at some of the
- 7:59things that were said and yeah, if you want to tell the audience more
- 8:03about the epic of Destiny, then there you go. Take it away,
- 8:07Brian, Well, let me, yeah, let me set this up because
- 8:09I'm the one who picked this video and I thought it was interesting. So
- 8:13it just so happened that Lauren Chen uploaded or live streamed a discussion. I
- 8:22won't say it's a debate, although there was some back and forth with Destiny
- 8:26and the topic. The name of her video is called Love in twenty twenty
- 8:30four only fans red Pill, polyamory and more with Destiny. Now, I
- 8:35only got about right under half an hour into this discussion. But Destiny,
- 8:45well, this is the thing, Okay. I don't know if Allison's gonna
- 8:48like. I think that it is important only because Destiny, for some fucking
- 8:54reason, is considered an an authority that people should be listening to when it
- 9:00comes to dating and relationships. He's got he's like the guy like for some
- 9:05reason. And Lauren Chen, I think she like, they're kind of on
- 9:09opposite sides on a lot of issues, and maybe she wanted to bring on
- 9:13somebody who would be, you know, a bit of a counter. So
- 9:16I'm not blaming her for this. I think Lauren Chen is usually okay.
- 9:20I've had her on the show. It was a long time ago when she
- 9:24was still called Rome Millennial. But but I have spoken to her. But
- 9:31what I okay, first, a little bit of backstory. So Destiny is
- 9:35a kind of He wouldn't consider himself to be a bread tuber or a lefty
- 9:39YouTuber. He would consider himself to be a common sense, moderate but he's
- 9:43totally a bread tuber just he's like bread tuber light, he's not He's not
- 9:48as crazy as Vosh, but pretty close. And the reason why we know
- 9:54is because of the way that he frames things before he discusses them. First
- 9:58of all, he hates the red pill. He lumps them in, and
- 10:03when he says the red pill, he's not just talking about the PUA's.
- 10:05He's not just talking about you know, like the fresh and Fits and the
- 10:09Andrew Tates. He's talking about us. So before you guys say, you
- 10:13know, well, you're not that No, we're as far as they're concerned,
- 10:16we are in that box and are and also we're in the same box
- 10:20as people like the guys of the Daily Wire, So all of us get
- 10:24lumped in together. And then he refutes all of us, and he defends
- 10:28the status quo, which is basically the mainstream feminist like arrangement of reality as
- 10:35it exists. While pretending to be like absolutely moderate right, he is the
- 10:39definition of both sides, and it's super annoying because he's obviously not like a
- 10:46moderate right. And in this discussion you will see because when Lauren Chen says
- 10:52she's gonna talk they talk about the state of the dating market and the problems
- 10:58that men are having. And I think that there are some things that Lauren
- 11:03chen should could learn from this. But Destiny is so far removed from reality
- 11:07it boggles the mind that he doesn't. He has no sympathy for the situation
- 11:13that men find themselves. So and despite that, and here's a little bit
- 11:16of the story of Destiny. Okay, we're getting I'm getting to like.
- 11:20Yeah. So the thing that is really ironic about this is that he was
- 11:26in He's a streamer that does streams video games and occasionally talks about politics,
- 11:30and for some reason he became like the guy to like ask like all kinds
- 11:35of social, cultural and political questions of because because I don't know, because
- 11:41he can google really fast. And so he was in a relationship with a
- 11:46woman I don't remember. Her name doesn't really matter. He was in Sweden,
- 11:50she lived in Sweden, and they got married, and they got married
- 11:54without a prenup. I'm just trying to cut to the chase here. And
- 11:56they were in an open marriage. So he married a woman open marriage with
- 12:01a woman did not get a prenup, and she was sleeping with whoever,
- 12:07and sometimes there it would be while there were men in the house, like
- 12:09there would be men in the house with him. And his whole thing was
- 12:13that he's so tolerant and so open and so like progressive that he could just
- 12:18like like, oh yeah, like I'm not insecure, I do fine,
- 12:22Like I'm a I'm also out here doing stuff right. We never really see
- 12:26it. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but this was his whole message
- 12:30is if you if you're mature, you can do an open marriage. Now,
- 12:35Frankly, I don't think that whether you can do it or not is
- 12:37a measure of maturity. But the reality is is that most men and women
- 12:43are gonna want to be a monogamous relationship. That's the reality. But when
- 12:48you push this stuff on people you know, or you at least pretend like
- 12:52everything is great, the problem is is that you kind of potentially invite like
- 12:58drama into people's lives because you tricked him into thinking something is good when it
- 13:03isn't. And he was living proof of that because the woman that he was
- 13:07in an open marriage with ended up leaving him for another man because the other
- 13:11man created an ultimatum he said, look, I want to be with you,
- 13:15but it has to be just us. So a monogamous a guy looking
- 13:18for monogamy one out against a guy that was supposedly okay with polyamory or whatever
- 13:26you call it, right, And not only that, but now she's trying
- 13:31to get a bunch of money from him, and because she he didn't get
- 13:33a prenup like you know. So I'm sorry, but not exactly a guru,
- 13:41not exactly a guru of relationships. Also, you'd think that he'd have
- 13:43some more sympathy having experienced you would think, right, I mean, he
- 13:50still basically just believes that men. I mean, they just shouldn't have anything
- 13:54to complain about, Like, well, we can get into it, but
- 13:56they're gonna talk about. What I saw was they're talking about dating, they
- 14:01talk about social media, they talked about feminism a little bit and OnlyFans and
- 14:09things like this. So all right, well let's let's uh, let's let's
- 14:13get into this. I don't I'm gonna have to do bananas. I don't
- 14:18have any time codes. I'm sorry. This just came out and I thought
- 14:20it was interesting. It was either this or we go through like Hassan Piker's
- 14:24old poa videos before he like found communism, So there's also that, which
- 14:30is also hilarious. By the way, if you've ever seen the old Hassan
- 14:33Piker video, there they are. They are kind of hilarious. Men's right
- 14:39activists are machines, dude. Okay, let's let's of pseudo intellectual live today.
- 14:48We have a very special guest. You know him. I'm sure as
- 14:52Destiny as Steven. He is one of the largest streamers right now, so
- 14:56really happy that he's taken the time to come chat with us. Destiny,
- 14:58how you do win? Hey, what's up? I'm doing great, doing
- 15:01good here. Actually I'm lying, I'm being Canadian and just being friendly.
- 15:05I'm sick, So if my nose gets more red throughout this stream, it's
- 15:09because I have a box of tissues next to me. But do you prefer
- 15:13Steven or Destiny? Are you good with either? Definitely Steven Steve. I'm
- 15:20just pausing there because I don't know how he's gonna get I did get a
- 15:22super chom and to read it really quick, got to superlo But I just
- 15:26wanted to say I'm not so sure that Lauren Chan is going to be really
- 15:30a stickler with the banana but yeah, I mean I don't think so either.
- 15:35I Lauren Chan, please don't like strike US. I just think I
- 15:39thought we can. I feel like we can relax the standard a bit,
- 15:45at least for the more UTV commentators. But I mean it's it's a good
- 15:50idea to to do the things before we continue, before we get too far
- 15:54into it and start to experience. Yeah, let's do what Yeah, they're
- 15:58they're doing introduct Yeah, and probably you know what, we could probably skip
- 16:02the introductions because we know who they are and we've given a long introduction to
- 16:06destiny. But be that is it. Man, Let's get into the things,
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- 18:57I got a super chow from Richard Bierre. He gives us five dollars and
- 19:02says, help me online community. My husband left me for a bull that
- 19:06I wanted to experience and to make things even spicier, I wanted my husband
- 19:10to be pegged by the bull. Now they are dating each other. I
- 19:15don't know. It sounds like a Valentine's happy ending to me. Well for
- 19:18some people, yes, and then the one good man, right, yeah,
- 19:25the one good man send us fifteen dollars and five dollars, so I
- 19:27guess you got like some support and that. So here, here's a here's
- 19:33the thing for you. Uh, just the child literally just maybe one hundred
- 19:38and so years ago, one hundred and such a few years ago that women
- 19:45were still viewed as chattel as we all know, this is true, and
- 19:48he says the one as the one good man, I know, I should
- 19:52believe all women and minorities at all times and without question. I suggest having
- 19:56pink, black and rainbow check marks so we know who feminist and leftist approved
- 20:00women are and help to avoid wrong thinkers. Thank you to the one good
- 20:06Man, which in which I mean and you are the one good man.
- 20:08You have just demonstrated how good and one you are all right, So now
- 20:14we can get into the video. I don't know how long the introductions go.
- 20:18I'm gonnap a little bit ahead. I don't want to miss it.
- 20:21Oh damn, I was muted. I was gonna say extra extra woohoo to
- 20:25the one good man who demonstrated his goodness by starting a fifteen dollar subscription.
- 20:32Oh, you have joined us, You have joined us. One good man
- 20:37come, oh, one good man is now a badger. We should create
- 20:40I think we should create memberships in the YouTube again, like I don't know,
- 20:45I know, I don't understand. Okay, I can probably apply my
- 20:48brain to it, but I'm sure it'll be something that I need to do.
- 20:52I'll need to swaddle myself in like a comforter and have like a hot
- 20:56coco and just well we can give them exclusive little like emotion from self care.
- 21:00No, no, I totally, I totally. You think that's a
- 21:03good thing. It's just that every time I interact with the YouTube interface,
- 21:07it's almost as bad as word press. So I always have to have that,
- 21:11you know, that little extra self care, you know what I mean,
- 21:15just just so that I don't want to kill myself. But it never
- 21:18works. I still want to kill myself. But I could do it.
- 21:19I could put it together. I could. I could figure that out at
- 21:23some point. But anyway, I want to thank you. Get one good
- 21:26man, great job. Thanks, thank you for the I appreciate it,
- 21:30really appreciate it, especially because of the subscription. All right, all right,
- 21:34let's play some of the video. I skipped ahead a little bit.
- 21:37Sure, I can't gonna be honest, I as well got like fifteen minutes
- 21:41go out a late night last night? Yea holiday. She asked him a
- 21:45question. She asked him a question. I want to hear her question.
- 21:47I want to open up with a question. I think it could be interesting.
- 21:51Do you think it's easier or more difficult to find love today than it
- 21:55was, say, twenty five years ago? Why are you all right?
- 21:57Before he answers that maybe we should try to answer it first, the answer
- 22:03is, yes, is more difficult. And the reason why is because our
- 22:06society is well, it's now in its third generation of embracing this notion that
- 22:11men oppressed women, which incidentally wasn't always a widespread belief, which is,
- 22:18you know, that's really funny because if you go back back in time when
- 22:22the oppression was worse, it was less, it was considered less of a
- 22:27thing. Of course, they would say that's consciousness rating raising. But I
- 22:32have my doubts and so but that particular attitude at which I'm guessing that neither
- 22:38of these two individuals would really genuinely question. We are now in generation three
- 22:45under that the the what's the right word for it, under the yoke of
- 22:52that idea, and once again I would just like to point out that it
- 23:00has never been proven. I mean, let's put it this way. Feminists
- 23:06essential conjecture about the relationship between the sexes because they have a conjecture about the
- 23:10relationship between the sexes, they at one percent do, But they have never
- 23:15absolutely and clearly explained what their conjecture about the relationship between the sexes is because
- 23:22they don't want to have to take responsibility for it. Because if they had
- 23:26to take responsibility, if they had to actually articulate what they believe, what
- 23:32their conjecture is in regards to the relationship between the sexes, then we could
- 23:37actually look at it as a scientific hypothesis that can be tested. So they
- 23:42want to play the silly buggers game of well, that's not my feminism,
- 23:48and then you ask them if they believe it, and they basically hem and
- 23:49haw and say yes. But you know, they don't want to They don't
- 23:53actually want to be pig pen or pinned down pen pig pig pinned, pinned,
- 24:02pinned down like I'm pinning this word down there. Don't want to be
- 24:06pinned down to anything because then it might be negated and then they have to
- 24:11take responsibility for it. So this is supposedly a scientific look at how one
- 24:17of the most important aspects of human nature, which is the relate one of
- 24:22them, the most important aspect of humans, most important. Yeah, the
- 24:26relationship between the sexes and their conjecture, they've never even really clearly stated it.
- 24:32They just want to dance around it, but still imply it. And
- 24:36uh and and honestly, it's never been subject to any kind of scientific grigor
- 24:41like, they have never said, well, how do you falsify it?
- 24:42Now? I can make a I can make a guess at what the feminist
- 24:45conjecture about the relationship between the sexes is men oppressed women, Men oppress women,
- 24:52men's authority over women oppresses women. And uh, well, how do
- 24:56you falsify that? And I've asked feminist. I'm like, okay, do
- 25:00you agree with that? And eventually I'll get them to say yes, and
- 25:03I say well, how do you falsify it? And then they usually say,
- 25:04well, it cannot be falsified. I'm like, yes, it can.
- 25:10It can one hundred percent be falsified. And this is how you falsify
- 25:14it. Your can you are, you are your causal conjecture. So you're
- 25:19saying X, then y, if male authority then female oppression, there is
- 25:26you absolutely one can falsify that. This is how you look at the situation
- 25:33for men and women under male authority, and if the situation is better for
- 25:37women then men, or even possibly just equal, And that's not the it's
- 25:45not it's not the exercise of male authority. So you can't put anything on
- 25:48the scale related to having rights without recognizing the equivalent responsibilities or any of that,
- 25:56because that's that's the X. Men authority is the X. You can't
- 26:00put X on scale to measure why that's you don't do that. You can't
- 26:03no, slap no, So you can you can see that, you can
- 26:08you can actually negate that by simply seeing observing if the situation is worse for
- 26:15men than women, and it is throughout all of human history. The situation
- 26:21is worse for men. Men are more likely to die violently, and they're
- 26:23less likely to reproduce, which are the two basic privileges of a sexually reproducing
- 26:30or like a mammal or an animal, is survival and reproduction, and it's
- 26:36always gone preferably towards women. So no, it's not a situation in which
- 26:41women are oppressed, because this situation is better for women, so like and
- 26:48and but the but ultimately, you don't even need to falsify it. You
- 26:52just have to ask is this falsifiable? And if they say no, then
- 26:56it's not science, Like, can you falsify this if it's false? Is
- 27:03irrelevant? Can you falsify feminist conjecture? Well, first of all, they've
- 27:08never really stated what their conjecture is, which means it's not science. Second
- 27:12of all, they won't acknowledge that it's falsifiable or even contend with thinking about
- 27:19making it falsifiable, which means it's not science, which means it's not an
- 27:23observation observation of reality. It's a fiction. And nobody is or a belief,
- 27:30and nobody is obligated to believe it, and therefore I don't men do
- 27:34not Men in authority do not oppress women. Full stop. Okay that was
- 27:41a long aside. Yeah, a little bit, but that's okay, all
- 27:44right, let's get into this more. But okay, yeah, my answer
- 27:47also, yes, I'm not going to go into it any further. I
- 27:51think that's enough. And what do you guys think? You think? Like,
- 27:53I'm not dating right now, but I can see that a lot of
- 27:57men are struggling. And the actually I've been talking to some people. There
- 28:03was that guy that you sent me the info on Twitter. He's like the
- 28:10evil psych dating psyche guy or whatever. Not Alex State Psyche, but another
- 28:12guy. And there was another guy who clearly what I'm saying is clearly this
- 28:21is becoming a more a bigger issue because more and more people are talking about
- 28:26So you know what we've been bringing the alarm on has is finally starting to
- 28:32reach the normies. All right, but let's let's let's get into it.
- 28:36So yes, so what do you guys think? Is it harder or not?
- 28:38Let me know in the live chat. I'll be looking at the chat.
- 28:41So hmmm, I like fifteen minutes guy the late night last night you're
- 28:49asking the hard hitting questions, is it is it? Though? It isn't
- 28:56it? Like I when she said it, I was like, yes,
- 28:57like, I mean, like, this isn't our question. You can wake
- 29:02me up in the middle of the night and ask me and with like fucking
- 29:04like ear boogers, I mean boogers in my eyes and everything from like you
- 29:08know how you get like the crust on your eye list, I'd be like,
- 29:12yes, now, fuck off right exactly, okay. But Destiny is
- 29:18like you know, you know that he doesn't really know how to answer a
- 29:22question when he says, well, that's a really complicated question. That's how
- 29:25you know he doesn't. This guy's the Socrates of the Internet right now.
- 29:30Some fucking reason, really well I exaggerate, but he is for some reason
- 29:36a credible like, well, you know what everybody is going to do.
- 29:41They're just gonna do what they do until it doesn't work anymore. I actually
- 29:44think that if you I think that if you are a defender of the status
- 29:51quo and you can sell that you're being like rational and moderate, you will
- 30:00be more successful than people like us that are actually saying you know what,
- 30:03this is a very hard thing to look at but you have to look at
- 30:06it. Oh god, yes, anybody's selling, like okay, anybody's at
- 30:10the end of the world selling selling the idea that the world isn't ending,
- 30:15that that guy is going to make out like bank, Like, just imagine
- 30:19we're at the end of the world. You see the timey whimy crack in
- 30:23the sky and the demon Lord's tentacles going down, and this dude's destiny.
- 30:29He's like, Oh, that's not really happening, you know. That's I
- 30:33don't know why you guys are exaggerating so much. Everything's fine, friends are
- 30:37fine. What's wrong with you? That's like people who think that there's a
- 30:40giant crack in the sky with monster tentacles coming down. They just hate women,
- 30:45you know. And that that dude saying that will have billions of followers
- 30:52and trillions of dollars shoveled at him. Okay, and why because he's telling
- 30:57people what they want to hear. Yes, exactly, all right, let's
- 31:03play some more of this. Let's hear his actual answer. I would say
- 31:06that in some I'm gonna get the dumbest the most way. It's like,
- 31:08in some ways it's a lot easier than someone harder. I think it's it's
- 31:12easier and that you're connected to more people today than anybody could have ever been
- 31:18connected to in the past, which is amazing. Right if you were like
- 31:22an introverted stable boy in the past, social media act and you know,
- 31:26talk to however many girls, you're what you're able to match. With that
- 31:30being said, I think the standards and what people expect in relationships has dramatically
- 31:34grown. So it in one way it's like easier to meet people, but
- 31:38in other ways it's a lot harder. It's like something that I talk about
- 31:41for men, is that? What was that? I'm just thinking, I'm
- 31:45just curious what he means about standards. Okay, yeah, I mean he's
- 31:48saying standards for people, and I'm like, well, we'll talking about and
- 31:53he's about to go into men, right, Okay, all right, let's
- 31:56let's find out. All right, let's find out yet that probably, like
- 32:00fifty sixty, seventy years ago, as long as you could work a stable
- 32:04job and you weren't a total lunatic, you'd probably get a wife. Because
- 32:07women need to go and find men, marry them, and have a family.
- 32:09That was kind of like the path of everybody, but now the people
- 32:12have so many more pounds available to them in life. He's saying, sixty
- 32:15or seventy years ago, if you were a man who just needed to have
- 32:20a stable job and like not be a lunatic, so essentially, be like
- 32:24a normal person with a stable job, and you will find a wife and
- 32:31because women needed men. So where he's going with this, and we'll let
- 32:37him say it before we respond, is that in the past. He's not
- 32:40going to say this because it was too true in the past. And the
- 32:45reality is is that in the past, men and women were for most of
- 32:51our history, they were set up with each other. So like the whole
- 32:55idea of like a free and open dating market is very very very recent.
- 33:00This isn't the case like in the eighteen hundreds. You just like knew the
- 33:05people in your town, or you knew the people in the farm next door,
- 33:08and if they had a daughter, and of course if they had like
- 33:10a shit ton of kids, odds were you know, you were you were
- 33:14going to meet someone that is like a match for you and your and if
- 33:19your the families were friends and they got along, well, then you probably
- 33:22like you know, it was like something that was like in it was all
- 33:25about like your it was more embedded in the culture. Like, yeah,
- 33:30it was embedded in the culture, but it was just like if you in
- 33:31your community, you would probably meet somebody in your community. Like even even
- 33:35when I was a kid, you know, the girls that I knew that
- 33:38I dated in school, they lived in my neighborhood, so it was like
- 33:43it was that and that's still pretty recent. But even before that, like
- 33:47you know, if a man and a woman were fond of each other,
- 33:53one of the things that was expected was, you know, you would meet
- 33:55their parents and and they would and you're you know, the girl or boy
- 34:00you were interested in would meet your parents and then the parents would suss them
- 34:04out because they were involved in their life and all of that. But like
- 34:07that doesn't happen anymore. And I don't think it's just the internet that's to
- 34:14blame. A lot of people want to blame the internet, They want to
- 34:15blame social media. I think it is the damage to the family that's that
- 34:22is actually to blame. I think that because there are still families today where
- 34:28there's a father in the home and in a father and a mother and they're
- 34:32both there and they're both raising the children together. And the father especially is
- 34:37gonna want to know who his daughter is dating, and he's going to be,
- 34:42like, you know whatever, sussing them out, and the mom will
- 34:45too, and the mom will be sussing out the girls that a boy is
- 34:50dating. And because but because they're also there, like the mother and father,
- 34:54if they're good parents, they will be the model by which their children
- 35:00will you know, relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you take
- 35:04all that out and you do that damage. Like somebody's saying, sixty percent
- 35:08don't have fathers. That's yes, that's the point. When you have single
- 35:13moms, then you basically invite or you've broken families, but most of them
- 35:17will be single mother homes. You are basically inviting. That gap is going
- 35:23to be filled, right, no pun intended, and they will find and
- 35:28it will and the schools promote it. They're okay with it, the media
- 35:31is okay with it. It's everywhere, it's all around us. We normalized
- 35:35it, and so the harm is being done and now destiny won't. And
- 35:39the standards though, like so we take all that out where people were just
- 35:44kind of like set up with each other, which was basically like for thousands
- 35:46and thousands of years that was the case, right, Maybe in the last
- 35:52one hundred years, No, probably less than that, maybe in the last
- 35:54seventy or eighty years, or was there a thing called dating without you know,
- 36:00necessarily with without oversight or at least that wasn't a normal thing where the
- 36:05parents were like, well, let me meet this person you're you're seeing or
- 36:08yours like the lonely hearts call them the newspapers right now for then you know
- 36:15that they meet they met through context. Yeah, there were ways to do
- 36:19it, yeah, Or you would go to things you go to like a
- 36:22community event, you know, a dance or or something like that, you
- 36:27know, or you meet them in church, like there were just a million
- 36:29ways. And now all that's gone, most of it is anyway, and
- 36:32people are mostly you know, dating online, and they're dating a lot earlier,
- 36:37and they're sexually active sooner, and they're treating relationships as more utilitarian or
- 36:44more almost I mean, if they are transactional, but maybe like in a
- 36:49kind of older way, you know, And I think this is yeah,
- 36:54go ahead, I think yeah, this is so it's not necessarily just the
- 36:58Internet, it's the general and I would admit that, No, he won't.
- 37:02That's what I'm saying. He's going to blame the internet. He's not
- 37:05gonna Actually, what he's going to do is he's going to justify the rop
- 37:07by saying that women didn't have a choice before and now they do. Well,
- 37:13let's hear so yo, So let's let's let's go into it. But
- 37:15with men, he was saying, the I guess the value add for a
- 37:19relationship is it's competing with a lot of other things. And so you say
- 37:23that, like women had to get married and stuff, what do you mean
- 37:27by that. I mean before women were as educated and before women had as
- 37:30much a place in the workforce. You're like, if you're a woman,
- 37:34you're like thirty, you're not married with a kid, Like, what are
- 37:36you doing with your life? Because you're not really like they're they're just like
- 37:39the the pursuit of career and the pursuit of education wasn't as common of a
- 37:44thing. So it seems like that was kind of like the expected path for
- 37:46women to go down. And if you're expected path is to be like a
- 37:49housewife and a caretaker, we'll obviously here for the para for the man to
- 37:51do that, because he's going to be the one that's working. So I
- 37:52feel like that was like a more standard path, like a more accepted kind
- 37:57of people were kind of pushed in that direction in the past. So or
- 38:00women want that? This is the big thing, like that the attitude is
- 38:07that, oh, women were pushed in that direction. And yet from what
- 38:10I've seen of women from that time period and their own statements, that was
- 38:15what they wanted. Right. You even have what was a Bouvier, say,
- 38:21Simon de Bouvier saying that you cannot allow women to have that because too
- 38:24many women will choose that, And you can't you can't give women the option
- 38:30to be a housewife and mother because too many women would choose to do Yeah,
- 38:36So that like right there, he's completely removing the agency of the women
- 38:40in the past. Maybe most of them did that because that's what they wanted.
- 38:45Well, and we're going to get into that later, right, Because
- 38:47that's why I think this is related to this article aired with me, all
- 38:52right, let's keep going. Then, all right, let's keep going.
- 38:55Opinion. Then, with the push for marriage that we saw in the past,
- 38:58was that mainly driven by women? That it's like a it's like asking
- 39:07like which wheel of the car is the most important. Why are you ask
- 39:09I was probably driven by women to some extent, but it was also driven
- 39:13by women because it's also like what men wanted. But it was also driven
- 39:15probably by men because it's what society needed. And then the families pushed you
- 39:19towards it, and then like that was the social expectation's society say, there
- 39:22was one force there that was pushing in a direction society. I can tell
- 39:28you something. Bachelor men were actively discriminated against her jobs. They had things
- 39:35like heart bomb laws that if a man, if a woman felt like a
- 39:39man had given some kind of promise, he owed her financially or could end
- 39:45up in jail, especially if he did anything sexual with her. So yes,
- 39:47there was actual legal pressure on men to marry. I don't recall any
- 39:52kind of legal pressure on women to marry. So if I like, yeah,
- 40:00a single like a bachelor man working a job or you know that's looking
- 40:05for work, is less reliable in the eyes of employers than a married man
- 40:09because a married man, especially, he's gonna he's gonna bust ass so that
- 40:15he's more likely to get the job. And at the same time that what's
- 40:19funny a married woman, especially a woman that might have children or plans to
- 40:22have children, is more of a financialentive for an employer than a single woman.
- 40:30Yes, and right now, single women out earned men, regardless of
- 40:32single men. But regardless of that, the real reason is because they didn't
- 40:38They didn't feel like giving a job to a man who wasn't supporting a woman.
- 40:43Right there, the social role of the time was that men work to
- 40:47support women. Yes, and wasn't that men were just out here making money.
- 40:53If you weren't a man supporting women a woman, you were openly and
- 41:00actively discriminated against in the workplace. And guys, there's older guys who will
- 41:05say one of the only things that feminism did for men was to take away
- 41:09that huge, pervasive, legally binding like like legally not just not just social
- 41:20stigma, but legal stigma, like legal condemnation, legal condemnation, employment condemnation
- 41:29of being a bachelor. Right there was you talk about pressure on women.
- 41:35Well, okay, yeah, you we can talk about it, but there
- 41:38weren't no, there weren't laws. There wasn't a policy of discriminating against single
- 41:45women for jobs like there was for men. Yeah, you know, like
- 41:50the pressure on men was tremendous to marry, and it was in law.
- 41:54Okay, so screw off with this, all right, let's okay, all
- 41:59right, let's listens more. Yeah. Uh, I'm trying not to go.
- 42:02I'm trying to be two before one o'clock. But if you're looking at
- 42:06it from like a patriarchal point of view, whatever, like social factors are
- 42:09pushing everybody in certain directions. In some ways, it's nice. In some
- 42:13ways it's not nice. I guess in one sense, it's nice that people
- 42:16kind of had simpler paths and therefore you don't have as much decision paralysis or
- 42:22you know, like choice fatigue, or it's like, fuck, did I
- 42:23make the right choice? Blah blah blah, because these are things we're just
- 42:25kind of expected for you. I think that women probably enjoyed parts of it
- 42:30and didn't like parts of it. I think men probably enjoyed a lot of
- 42:31parts of it, didn't like parts of it. Yeah. Oh, I
- 42:35like how he says men enjoyed a lot of it, like they like they
- 42:38somehow just benefited more. And also I don't think it was like, okay,
- 42:44so back then, most people most men found women, men found those
- 42:52men and fell in love, got married, and they had kids. And
- 42:55then the man would work at you know, at a job or he owned
- 43:00a business, or he ran a farm or his land or whatever it was,
- 43:07and his wife worked at home. She worked still, but she worked
- 43:10at home. Maybe she had a little side thing. I know that was
- 43:14very common, you know, and they were both raising their children together.
- 43:19This is an ideal situation, but this is what people usually aim for,
- 43:22so it's what they're going for. And then he is saying that what if
- 43:29you had more choices, then you would just become the end of your line,
- 43:36Like you wouldn't have children and you would just die and that'd be the
- 43:38end of your legacy, like men won Yeah, go ahead, Okay.
- 43:44He's saying that having more choices can lead to regretting the choices because you think,
- 43:49oh I could have chosen. Yeah, we're having choice fatigue. So
- 43:52slimming down the choices can lead to greater happiness. Yes, that's true,
- 43:55but like, what what are the choice is that people did not have that
- 44:02were better than what choices they Because he's saying that now we have all these
- 44:07choices, so there's a downside because it's not as easy to you know,
- 44:10like walk down that life path of like well no, yeah, I mean
- 44:15get married, have kids, our family. We're saying people, but what
- 44:17we mean as women because men still have the same single choice, which is
- 44:22to earn more than your wife. That's it, yes, like everybody,
- 44:24look, oh my god, women are liberated. But the thing is that
- 44:28women still want to marry a man who earns more. They literally still want
- 44:31to marry a man who that they can then rely on like they did in
- 44:36the nineteen fifties period. Like that nothing has changed and nothing has changed about
- 44:40the expectations for men, except now the amount men have to earn has increased.
- 44:50So this whole idea that anything has changed since the nineteen fifties is absolutely
- 44:54absurd. A woman then still wanted a man who made more. It was
- 44:59just just easier to find one. Now a woman still wants a man who
- 45:04makes more. It's just a lot harder to find one. That's the difference.
- 45:08Like she's making it out like there's this huge massive change that there hasn't
- 45:13been. We haven't changed what they want. No, we still want to
- 45:17rely on a man who makes more the end. Yeah, Okay, it's
- 45:23just that they've gone from a from a position of plenty where every woman could
- 45:30find a man who was about her attractiveness level who made more, to a
- 45:36system of scarcity where it's very difficult to find a man who makes more because
- 45:40you are now making as much or more than most men. So okay,
- 45:49well that's that's essentially the dating situation in a nutshell the end, Like yeah,
- 45:55and that's the hilarious thing. They're like, oh, we've liberated women.
- 45:59No you haven't. You've liberated women. Really well, they still have
- 46:04the same expectations that they've always had. You certainly haven't liberated them from that.
- 46:08I mean if tomorrow, if tomorrow every man magically became Christian Gray,
- 46:14I don't know how that hell that would work. Every woman would quit her
- 46:17job and become his wife, like think about it, or every woman and
- 46:25so nothing has changed. And that's what Well that yeah, that's what I
- 46:29was saying, Like we like he thinks we've given people choices, but like
- 46:34they're just making the same choices, saying yeah, they're making the same choices.
- 46:38Yeah, and they're making those things same choices, Like but that there's
- 46:42a lot of other factors now that make things worse for everybody. Involved.
- 46:45Well, yeah, just like I mean, women can just divorce. They
- 46:50can get married and then divorce the guy so they can take his money,
- 46:52take his kids, because the state will step in and take care of her.
- 46:57Does that. So we've basically like created We didn't add any choices because
- 47:02men and women generally still want the same things. We've just given like I
- 47:07don't know, like we've basically just like interceded into that process. Like where
- 47:13men are now working, Like whether you're married or not, whether you go
- 47:16full on migtile monk, you're paying taxes, which means that you are giving
- 47:21a woman your money. So this is this is the big thing that women
- 47:27now can choose. They can now choose to be celebrated middle management seven eleven,
- 47:32like being middle management at seven eleven, or being a manager of a
- 47:36seven eleven. You know, like the average woman can now celebrate if she's
- 47:42lucky being a middle manager or something else, you know, like yay woo,
- 47:51Like you're not making a family, But what are you really getting at
- 47:54the end of the day. And here's the great joke. Men didn't do
- 47:59their jobs because they really really really enjoyed the fifty year like pocket watch or
- 48:05the placard. They did their jobs because that's what paid for their families.
- 48:10Yeah, they did their job, the wife and their job because they wanted
- 48:16to support their family. That's why they did it. Well. Yeah,
- 48:21and that's that's the thing that women are out there supporting themselves and they don't
- 48:27even get the reward that men did. They don't even get that reward because
- 48:32they don't even have families at the end of the day. And that's really
- 48:37actually, really sort of funny, is it. Is it really freedom to
- 48:44have to have a be a wage slave? Is that really freedom? You
- 48:49know? Is that really the pinnacle of success? Oh? Yes, I
- 48:52became a manager, a middle manager at seven to eleven. Whoo you go,
- 48:55girl, Like, Okay, that that that's that's the big thing that
- 49:00you got out of life. And that was so much better than being a
- 49:06wife and a mother and building a home. That was so much better?
- 49:08Was it? Okay? Well, too bad, you're so much better.
- 49:13Will not care about you when you get buried, like you know, like
- 49:19this, I don't know, it just seems like you're out, You're right?
- 49:22Did the did the options really get that much better? Did anything really
- 49:27change that much? No? I mean, I mean he thinks that women
- 49:31are less oppressed but still oppressed. Oh yeah, okay, if you want
- 49:38to go in a deeper on anything, we can. But my answer gonna
- 49:40be right macro level right now. Sorry, No, that's that's good.
- 49:43Okay, So that it's not necessarily easier, harder answer today, would you,
- 49:47Stephen, do you prefer being answered? Okay, okay, I'm really
- 49:52tired about this. Okay? Is this is it just me? Or is
- 49:57this man incredibly disrespectful? Well? Yeah, he's super sarcastic. He thinks
- 50:02he's smarter than everybody's. No, he's like he's a definition of a midwit.
- 50:07He is a definition of a midwit, a guy who's who's dunning Krueger.
- 50:13That's all I'll say. Let me conclude, he's the way he's moving,
- 50:19the attitude he's presenting. He feels very disrespectful to her. Yeah,
- 50:25it's I don't know if if anybody else is picking up on that, but
- 50:28that's a strong Well yeah, I mean yeah, I can see the body
- 50:31language. But that's like I've watched him in a lot of debates like where
- 50:36and discussions, and he is he basically presumes that because people blow up,
- 50:40so blow so so much smoke up of his ass. He thinks that he's
- 50:44the smartest guy in the world, and so he just yeah, comes on
- 50:46and he's like, well, clearly you don't. And and of course his
- 50:49takes are just so like milk toast, but you get used to its question.
- 50:55No, he's not gonna, well he did. He just said it
- 50:57kind of is and it kind of isn't. And that's the end. Like,
- 51:00I know, I just gave the most nuanced take ever. And Lauren
- 51:05Chen is like, well, I guess. I mean, Lauren Chen is
- 51:07clearly smarter than him, but she's just got to like realize it. Look,
- 51:10I only got like an hour and a half. I'm not gonna I've
- 51:15been there, Lauren. I get it, all right, Let's okay,
- 51:17let's keep going ago or fifty years ago or hundred years wait wait, wait,
- 51:22oh my god, you just for us. For a second, I
- 51:23thought you were thinking of the deepest question ever. Hold on, Oh no,
- 51:27yeah, I repeat that last thing. Sorry to think so. Would
- 51:30okay, assuming you're Steven, you're looking for love. Now, are you
- 51:32happy to be in twenty twenty four or would you have preferred to be in
- 51:36the past twenty five years ago, or maybe even a hundred years ago.
- 51:38I mean I like this era now one percent. But also if I was
- 51:40born, you know, fifty years ago, maybe well yeah, because he
- 51:44gets to play video games. Let's let's play some more. We'll see what
- 51:49he says. Probably would have no different, Yeah of course. Yeah,
- 51:52but hey I am maybe the forties I would have been a not so you
- 51:53know, who knows i'd have. I definitely preferred this era now, but
- 51:59yeah, I mean we're probably of our time, so who knows. Who's
- 52:00to say I would have about fifty one hundred years ago. Yeah, that's
- 52:04interesting because I can't like what I'm hearing from. For a second, Brian,
- 52:07at any point in the amount that you watch, does does he have
- 52:09a thought that's actually worth considering? No? Okay, what the why?
- 52:15Why are we even listening to this man? Because I think that we know
- 52:20because I because he is a popular voice and we should hear what people are
- 52:23saying. Okay, I got a super He has not made a point or
- 52:30offered an observation that is worth considering in any aspect, And I'm starting to
- 52:37get really aggravated. I'm not at you, Brian, I'm not at you,
- 52:42I am aggravated at this. Well we should we should hear him out
- 52:50some more because these look his the arguments he makes are very common. They're
- 52:55not going to be mind blowing. He's not gonna blow He's not gonna blow
- 52:59your mind because we are operating, I think, on the fringe here,
- 53:06so we're looking at it's basically like, oh, where's the Overton window at
- 53:09today? Oh? Here, and we're looking at that, So this is
- 53:14where it is. And I mean, Lauren Chen pushes back, like you
- 53:16know, or at least she has like her own side of it, and
- 53:20he's further along. But I think that this is good for that if you
- 53:23look, If you guys watching don't think this is content worth going through,
- 53:28then I'll just stop the video and we'll like go to the article or something.
- 53:32But I'm just saying that so far, we're like five minutes in and
- 53:36I have not heard a thought like you know I and I don't grade every
- 53:42thought on like a depth or a density that's really satisfying, like I don't.
- 53:45I'm not expecting him to be like I don't know, piercy and semiotics
- 53:50or anything like that, which actually is just more confusing than satisfying. But
- 53:53regardless, I'm not expecting that from this man. But yeah, I'm I'm
- 54:00I keep grading him down in his insight, and I'm I'm now at Hallmark
- 54:07card. This dude is a fucking Hallmark card. But you know, if
- 54:10if I wanted to do, if I wanted to listen to, I would
- 54:15just go to Walmart and read the Hallmark cards, all right, and I
- 54:21would probably feel more satisfied. In fact, I would be like, you
- 54:23know, this Hallmark card is really making me think so far, Okay,
- 54:30you are at dude, you are at Hallmark card level. Can we can
- 54:34I just want a little substance somewhere? Okay, Okay, Well he just
- 54:37woke up, so maybe he wakes up a little bit. Maybe he's reving
- 54:42his engines. You know. Yeah, I wake up from the weirdest ass
- 54:45dreams. Like sometimes I have these dreams and it's like, wow, I
- 54:49think I'm even more esoteric in a dream, And do you have those feelings
- 54:53like get you get these conclusions and you're like, I understand everything. Had
- 55:00a dream last night that Jojo Pete on my which is weird because he never
- 55:02does that. All Right, we're I think we're on different sides of the
- 55:07spectrum. Yeah, then I had to go. So anyway, I got
- 55:10a super child. For Richard Bierre gives us five bucks and he says,
- 55:14is building the bondage Dungeon a requirement or is that only optional? Don't you
- 55:19realize a liberation in being a modern day harem girl? All right, thank
- 55:24you for that, Richard. And for men at least, there are a
- 55:29lot of guys who are saying that they are very black built about what the
- 55:34current dating situation looks like. And I from what I understand, it's because
- 55:37I mean, I think nowadays the power has kind of shifted in terms of
- 55:43relationship dynamics. A lot of people think that women are basically holding the keys
- 55:47not just to sex, which traditionally they always have, but also two relationships
- 55:51in that if you can't even get in the door for that first inertial date,
- 55:53then as a man, your power to technically control relationship status, then
- 55:59does there even exist to begin with for a lot of men. Well,
- 56:02that's a fair statement I think that Lauren Chin is making right. Let's see
- 56:07how he turns that into. Well, let's see what he turns it.
- 56:10I'm on it turns it into into into like like kind of watery oatmeal.
- 56:15Let's find out. Let's find out. Yeah, I mean, I I
- 56:21agree, the balance has swung really dramatically. My kind of like explanation for
- 56:25this, I'm gonna try the fuck out of your audience today. My explanation
- 56:30for all of this is, I view, there's like a basket of feminine
- 56:34traits, and there's a basket of masculine traits, and for a long time,
- 56:37religious people and red pillars and everybody's kind of coped that, like,
- 56:40oh, feminine traits are beautiful and masculine traits are good, and they compliment
- 56:44each other. But I think deep down we all know that's fucking bullshit.
- 56:46All the masculine traits are really fucking cool, having honor, having integrity,
- 56:52being a provider, being able to, you know, stand up for your
- 56:55enemies and for your family. But these are like really cool things that everybody
- 56:59wants to do. I think we kind of deluded ourselves into thinking like only
- 57:01men want that, Like women want to be feminine and elegant and caretakers and
- 57:07breastfeeders, and that's like the best thing ever. Not to say that thesease
- 57:09are bad, I'm just saying that, like in the box of masculine trades,
- 57:13there's like eighty percent of these traits are things that everybody wants. Nobody
- 57:15wants to be weak, nobody wants to have to be taken care of.
- 57:20I'm pausing it there just in case. I'm going I'm gonna let it play.
- 57:23Okay, let's play the rest. So I think his time has gone
- 57:27on as women have gotten access to birth control and have got access to education
- 57:30and then careers. I think that what we've seen is women have kind of
- 57:35like always had this feminine side. They've done a really good job at growing
- 57:39their masculine side as well, and men have had their masculine side, and
- 57:44that's it. And there hasn't really been a push for men to encompass like
- 57:45more intellectual feminine trades. And so you've got this era now where women have
- 57:52become these like voltrons of like all these different powerful forces. And now when
- 57:55you're a woman and it's twenty twenty four and you're looking into the dating field
- 57:59and you're like, Okay, well who should I date? Well, you
- 58:00don't need a guy for sex? Is you a birth control? You know
- 58:04you're not gonna get pregnant every time, and you don't need a guy for
- 58:06money. You can work your own job. So now the value add for
- 58:09a guy has to be really high, because before it was like, listen,
- 58:13do you want to be a fucking unwed, unpregnant loser at thirty or
- 58:15do you want to get with me because I've got a paycheck. And now
- 58:20if you're a guy at paycheck's not enough, you know. And yeah,
- 58:22I think women with like jobs in birth control are like kryptonite to guys who
- 58:27can only offer their wallet, which is the only thing guys have ever really
- 58:30been trained to do. Okay, is he done? Yeah? Well I
- 58:34think so want me to see. No, okay, let's see, let's
- 58:37see right, And I think it's hard for guys right now because socially they're
- 58:40just not trained and nobody wants to train them or learn that because why feminists
- 58:45of sucks. We think of feminist if you think of blue hair, you
- 58:47know, sissy, progressive, cry baby guys, it doesn't seem like a
- 58:51cool thing, you know. Yeah, right, No, even feminists themselves
- 58:52are not lining up. Okay. Yeah, this is a very trivializing attitude
- 59:04to the wars of the difference between men and women. First of all,
- 59:07men were not their jobs, they were their function that their jobs did.
- 59:15The function that their jobs did was to take care of their families, to
- 59:19protect and provide for their families. Women have not taken over that. If
- 59:23they had genuinely taken over that masculine urge. And I think it must be
- 59:30a masculine urge because women just don't have it. Like, do you see
- 59:35many women who are like, yo, I got a job. Now I'm
- 59:37going to find me a stay at home husband, and I'm going to take
- 59:40care of, protect and provide for him and the kids. Do you see
- 59:44a lot of that? No, No, you don't see it. No,
- 59:47they still expect men to do those things. They still expect men to
- 59:51do those things. So, honestly, that really seems to be a male
- 59:54thing. A man, when he gets the ability to take care of someone,
- 1:00:00he does it. When a woman gets the ability to take care of
- 1:00:04someone, she doesn't. So you're talking about oh oh, going and becoming
- 1:00:09the middle manager at seven eleven, that was a masculine thing. No,
- 1:00:14it wasn't. It's just a job. You know, women throughout all of
- 1:00:17human history have done the equivalent of being managers at seven to eleven was called
- 1:00:22running a household, running a farm, running a court. Right. Women
- 1:00:27have always done those things that didn't make the men. Okay. The big
- 1:00:32difference that I see is that when men have a job and the ability to
- 1:00:37take care of someone, they do, and when women have a job and
- 1:00:42the ability to take care of someone, they don't. Okay, that's the
- 1:00:47real difference between men and women. And nobody like guys are not complaining?
- 1:00:52Are okay? I'm sorry. I think she underestimates the minority of men who
- 1:00:59would actually be thrilled with a career woman who wants to stay at home husband.
- 1:01:05He's completed. I think so too. I don't think it. But
- 1:01:08the problem is is that there are very few women like that. I gut,
- 1:01:13yes, I guarantee that the supply of stay at home dads exceeds the
- 1:01:22uh what is it, I demand for stay at home dads. Okay,
- 1:01:28supply vastly exceeds the demand for stay at home dads. So he's saying,
- 1:01:34well, why is it that men, why isn't that man are not pursuing
- 1:01:37being more feminine? Well, let's let's just say, okay, well,
- 1:01:40let's let's take it out of the out of the realm of this stupid,
- 1:01:45superficial, childish Oh, this thing is blue, therefore it's a boy.
- 1:01:51This thing is pink, therefore it's a girl. And put it into the
- 1:01:52realm of actual behavior, masculine and feminine behavior, all right. Feminine behavior
- 1:01:59is I'm I'm going to take care of the home, or I'm gonna take
- 1:02:01care of the person taking care of me. Okay, And you know there
- 1:02:06are men who have that kind of equality. You could argue that farmers have
- 1:02:09that kind of quality. I'm gonna take care of something so it can take
- 1:02:13care of me. It's fine. You can even see that as sort of
- 1:02:15like a in and of itself, a softer masculine whatever. All right.
- 1:02:20There are men out there who want that, who want to do that.
- 1:02:22The supply of them vastly exceeds the demand among women for them, all right.
- 1:02:29The reason why men aren't embracing their softer side, you know, they're
- 1:02:34more farmerly side, shall we say, if we don't want to call it
- 1:02:37feminine, it's it's farmerly. It's like you nurture something so it will take
- 1:02:40care of you. You need to get what I'm saying yeah, no,
- 1:02:44sure, the men who are it's the Shire, it's the Shire, yeah,
- 1:02:49the Shire masculinity, shall we say, the hobbit masculinity. Okay,
- 1:02:53the men who are there wanting to be that don't find partners. Okay,
- 1:03:00So he's talking about, well, why why aren't men you know, because
- 1:03:02if only men were more like women, women would like them more. But
- 1:03:07that's just not happening, and women are not like necessary that. Women are
- 1:03:10not necessarily becoming more masculine. No, they are being told that masculine traits
- 1:03:16are like better than feminine traits, and so they are trying to adopt them
- 1:03:22by going out getting a job, you know, being told that the masculine
- 1:03:27traits are better. They're being told that masculine traits are criminality and being an
- 1:03:30asshole unless women are doing it and having no responsibilities, which is absolutely absurd.
- 1:03:37Unless women are doing it, yeah, then then they're reclaiming their masculinity
- 1:03:40or something. Well that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it's like
- 1:03:43but my overall point is that what he's identifying as masculine and feminine isn't.
- 1:03:50What I can see is genuine masculine and feminine is masculine go out in the
- 1:03:52world, provide and protect your for the person in the home, and feminine
- 1:03:58is more being the home nurture the person who's providing and protecting for you.
- 1:04:01You want to reverse that again far more men want to be the shire masculine
- 1:04:09if you want to call it that, you know, that kind of quality
- 1:04:12of nurturing. Then women want to take care of them and be that kind
- 1:04:16of really masculine, that responsible masculine. Right, So what is the situation?
- 1:04:23Okay, the situation is that women's desires and men have not shifted.
- 1:04:29It is not a situation. What did he say? He said that men
- 1:04:32have embraced their haven't embraced their femininity, but women haven't. Yeah, women
- 1:04:36have basically balanced themselves out because they have they found and maximized their masculine feminine
- 1:04:42side. And men, you know, we're in a box. We're in
- 1:04:45the man box. We can't we can't get out. We're too insecure,
- 1:04:47we're too afraid. I mean, he doesn't say that explicitly, but it's
- 1:04:50implied. Okay, when every single man, when every single man who wants
- 1:04:57to be a stay at home dad and a nurturer wants to be the guy
- 1:05:00who's like taking care like the farmer type, the shire type, who's taking
- 1:05:05care of the person who takes care of him. When every single man with
- 1:05:09that inclination is husbanded up by career women, then this man has a point.
- 1:05:15We are not there yet. Women don't want that. They want a
- 1:05:20man who makes more. They want a man who takes them by the hand
- 1:05:26and says, you'll never have to work again, baby, you won't even
- 1:05:30have to work at home. You won't have to worry about a thing.
- 1:05:33Boop. That's the kind of guy they want. They still want that.
- 1:05:38And what's really has happened is they think the money that they make gets them
- 1:05:44a higher status man. Like you see these career women. They're like,
- 1:05:46I make a two hundred and fifty dollars a year. That means I'm entitled
- 1:05:51to a man who makes a million. That's the way they think about it.
- 1:05:56Yep. There is another thing too that he says that I was you
- 1:06:00to bring up, which is that he explicitly says that that the what does
- 1:06:05he say, the red pill and the and the Conservatives or whatever, the
- 1:06:10Christians whatever he calls it. However, he's straw manning people. They say
- 1:06:14that the masculine the feminine are beautiful, and that they're that they both balance
- 1:06:18each other out and compliment each other, and that that's a lie because masculinity
- 1:06:23is just better and femininity is not. That's what he says, right,
- 1:06:27right, Masculinity is just better. Of course I don't. I mean Lauren
- 1:06:30Chen should push back. I don't think she does. But like with that,
- 1:06:34women want to raise children and breastfeed. He literally says, breastfeed and
- 1:06:41and raise children and essentially prepare the next generation to run the planet. Those
- 1:06:48things are inferior to masculine traits. Yes, could you actually think about it?
- 1:06:55This is something that I've noticed with dog training. Some of the most
- 1:06:59critical aspects of a dog's achievement. I know that sounds really strange. Is
- 1:07:03training impulse control and attention? Oh yeah, both of which is are what
- 1:07:10mothers do. Usually they will train impulse control and attention if they're good mothers.
- 1:07:17So they are laying the foundation of all achievement, all achievement in the
- 1:07:24human race. And this guy's like, oh, yeah, I'm masculine,
- 1:07:27only he's more important. No, it ain't. Yeah, he's just like,
- 1:07:30dude, masculinity is way cooler. And so like, essentially he's and
- 1:07:34this is the moderate guys, the moderate, the common sense guy does not
- 1:07:38acknowledge that feminine, that femininity has any benefits only because his enemies think that
- 1:07:45they do. Okay, So basically because the people he opposes will say,
- 1:07:48well, women like femininity has its own set of valuable traits, and they
- 1:07:53would probably also acknowledge that it's not black and white, and that men have
- 1:07:57some of those traits as well as women having some of the masculine ones.
- 1:08:00But whatever, that's way too nuanced, and he's just gonna say, no,
- 1:08:04women, what we considered feminine trades are just inferior. This is why
- 1:08:09women are becoming like men now, which they're not. And he has the
- 1:08:12most simplistic take on what masculine and feminine. Yeah, the most secular jobs
- 1:08:17masculine is No, it's not. Women have a job throughout history a mass
- 1:08:23like I got another super child. I'm gonna go ahead and put it on
- 1:08:28the screen. From Richard, the are he says, weren't bachelors heavily recruited
- 1:08:33for jobs that were at a higher risk of not always coming back home from
- 1:08:38I think that the pony express part of the Postal Service heavily recruited from orphanages
- 1:08:43because if a writer were lost, then there wouldn't be any unsupported family as
- 1:08:46a result. Yes, that's one true. And bachelors were sent like in
- 1:08:56in in a war context. They're sent in more dangerous positions too, because
- 1:09:00people didn't want to see families without a father. That's that's as simple as
- 1:09:05that. All right, Okay, So I just want to remind you everybody.
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- 1:09:31We but we did started a bit early. So feed the Badger dot com
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- 1:09:45just the tip. Don't let it just be Richard Pierre. Somebody else gets
- 1:09:48some words in edge wise. Yeah, right, we need we need additional
- 1:09:53additional perspectives, a plurality of perspectives, if you will, all right,
- 1:09:58let's go all right, let's keep going for the email of feminist ally like
- 1:10:01cuttlefish person who's now. But it's kind of interesting because I feel like there
- 1:10:05are a lot of red pill guys who, strangely enough, share the same
- 1:10:11opinion that, like, historically men were kind of there to be the breadwinners,
- 1:10:15but now that we no longer need men as women to be the breadwinners,
- 1:10:18it's kind of like torpedoed relationships. I feel like, oh, wait,
- 1:10:23wait, wait, here's a good counterexample. All right, if you
- 1:10:26didn't need men as bread winners in order to form relationships, why aren't relationships
- 1:10:30forming? Yeah, like that. The thing is that that hasn't changed.
- 1:10:36Everybody's like, oh, this has changed. It hasn't changed. A woman
- 1:10:40who makes a quarter of a million a year is making a quarter of a
- 1:10:44million a year because she thinks it gives her a claim on a man who
- 1:10:47makes a million, or at the very least she just thinks that that gives
- 1:10:53her a claim on a man who makes a million. And it's like,
- 1:10:56this hasn't changed. And again, if if if the situation was had changed,
- 1:11:04then families would be forming even if men aren't making more than women.
- 1:11:11But that's not what's happening, friends, And exact opposite is happening, and
- 1:11:17it's because women haven't changed their expectations. They haven't. And you can say
- 1:11:25what you want about men not embracing their feminine life. They're not embracing shy
- 1:11:29er masculinity because women don't want it. They want men to come in,
- 1:11:34you know, on the in there lake, I know, Porsche with their
- 1:11:39gigantic money bags being lifted with your gigantic biceps and sweep her off out of
- 1:11:45her cubicle, you know, and say you'll never have to work again,
- 1:11:48baby, not lift a fricking finger. That's what they want. They still
- 1:11:54want it. Why do you look at the freaking Forman's novels The Gray Yeah,
- 1:12:00okay, are we going to see fifty shades of Stay at Home Dad?
- 1:12:04No? Are we? Yeah? The problem is is that, like
- 1:12:10you know, there's an elephant in the room, and in some cases a
- 1:12:13literal elephant in the room, which is women's standards. Like I mean,
- 1:12:17no one wants to talk about it. They're so are they just terrified to
- 1:12:23even say you know, I think women, I think you guys are asking
- 1:12:27for the moon, and uh, you know, we just can't get that
- 1:12:30to you. Well, they're asking for something that men no longer are.
- 1:12:33Yeah, no, exactly, exactly. Well, and the fact that the
- 1:12:38shades of we both work, Yeah, how about that. I mean,
- 1:12:41like, if you want to a situation where that's not necessary, we we're
- 1:12:45gonna have to work on, like, you know, fixing the economy,
- 1:12:49which means you're gonna have to be more involved in that and stop asking for
- 1:12:53gibbs. Yeah, all of the artificial props that women have. Yeah,
- 1:12:59what do you the it's gonna happen when you ask for equal pay and they
- 1:13:01put in all this freakin stuff, like all of these this extra like this,
- 1:13:06this woman only escalator to the top. Well, more of you are
- 1:13:11going to end up on the top and less men, And that's why you
- 1:13:15can't find men you want to marry. And don't give me this shit about
- 1:13:17oh well they're just they're just not feminine. You don't want that. If
- 1:13:21you did, all of the men who are actually like that would already have
- 1:13:26partners. Gladly, because once again, the men with a shire masculinity,
- 1:13:33I don't know if we should go with that. You guys have got to
- 1:13:35give me some feedback on that one I got. I got some feedback,
- 1:13:41so I got a super child from ZARANX for five dollars. He says,
- 1:13:45Destiny's dismissal of men and women being completely complimentary, sorry, speaks to how
- 1:13:49much feminism has influence and undermined the culture. I remember Brian criticized Sargon for
- 1:13:55being annoyed with the idea that men ask women what they bring to the table.
- 1:13:58I think he's correct, us should ask women what they do that's equal
- 1:14:02to men. Home is where the heart is, he has been a saying.
- 1:14:06I thought about it and considered home is where the hearth is. The
- 1:14:10hearth before electricity, was a source of light and heat for the home.
- 1:14:14If no cannels were available, where the cooking is done, where water is
- 1:14:16boiled for bathing, and a source of heat the home on his own,
- 1:14:20a man would have to get the hearth going in order to cook and mind
- 1:14:25it as it was going. If he was out hunting for what, he'd
- 1:14:28have to skin and clean for cutting and cooking the result of the hunt.
- 1:14:31That's an all day job. The woman being at home could handle the issue
- 1:14:34of maintaining the hearth, using the workload, you know, being a help
- 1:14:39meet. Sorry for the length and the five dollars low on funds, no
- 1:14:44problem, Well I don't. I think that like to say that. My
- 1:14:50problem with it him saying that was because he was only putting it on men.
- 1:14:56And the truth is is that all lationships are transactional, but they don't.
- 1:15:01They're not only transactional, but more importantly, it's women that are the
- 1:15:06ones that are essentially you know, marketing this like men. I think there
- 1:15:14was a there was a video and maybe this isn't like the best I'm not
- 1:15:17going to call this data, but I think it's a microcosm. There was
- 1:15:20a video. It's one of those like interview on the street videos, and
- 1:15:25there was a the interviewer was talking to a guy and a girl, young
- 1:15:29man young woman. They were on a date, I assume, and he
- 1:15:32was asking that. He asked the man how much money he had in his
- 1:15:35bank account. The man said fifteen hundred dollars. Then he asked the girl
- 1:15:41how much she had in her bank account. We don't know the context.
- 1:15:43I don't know if they were just you know, looking to see like if
- 1:15:45people are young, people are saving up. They were zuomers and the girl
- 1:15:48said, oh, seventy k and the and the boyfriend looked at her in
- 1:15:54his eyes, he said, seventy thousand dollars. She was like, yeah,
- 1:15:58my dad gave it to me. And he was like, I just
- 1:16:00spent four hundred dollars on this date and you had seventy thousand dollars in the
- 1:16:05bank. Now. The reason why I bring this up is because the man
- 1:16:10knew that he had to shell out in order to woo this girl. The
- 1:16:16girl, even though she definitely had plenty of money, saw no reason and
- 1:16:21they ended up getting into a fight and everything because she was like, you're
- 1:16:26supposed to pay for my dates. She had seventy thousand dollars in her bank
- 1:16:30account, he had fifteen hundred, and he was still expected to spend money
- 1:16:35on her. So when I get annoyed because men are asking, hey,
- 1:16:42before I enter a relationship with you, I know that you, now modern
- 1:16:45woman are liberated and yet still dependent. Like you get you. You have
- 1:16:50all of the modern day conveniences of living in the world that was built for
- 1:16:57you, so that you can live in this world like women. People like
- 1:17:00Destiny For example, if it weren't for all of the hard working men that
- 1:17:05keep society running, streamer would not exist as a job. He would be
- 1:17:11plowing the fields, or he would be dead. It would be like,
- 1:17:15so there is the lack of grace for this is mind boggling. So this
- 1:17:20woman, she had seventy grand in the bank and saw no reason to say,
- 1:17:28you know what, I know you're struggling because if he's got fifteen hundred
- 1:17:31in his bank account, he probably and he was a young guy, maybe
- 1:17:34twenty years old, he probably was working up. You know, maybe he's
- 1:17:38in college, working a part time job. Maybe he's got just got a
- 1:17:41low paying job or whatever. I don't know. But she didn't even think,
- 1:17:45oh, well, I should probably you know, I'm a modern world
- 1:17:48woman living in the modern world. I should probably act like it and like,
- 1:17:53you know, maybe like but I don't know, put this out.
- 1:17:56But no, not only did she not do that, and not only did
- 1:18:00she even say, Okay, well maybe i've been dating that long and I
- 1:18:01don't know what his potential is, but you know, I'm not going to
- 1:18:06presume that I am entitled to his money. No, no, she didn't
- 1:18:11even do that. She said Basically, even though I have seventy K in
- 1:18:15the bank and you only have fifteen hundred, and you spent four hundred bucks
- 1:18:20on this date, I still expect you to do that because you are the
- 1:18:27man. So essentially, what it means is we live in the modern world,
- 1:18:31but men still have to follow a traditional role, which basically means nothing.
- 1:18:39Because it it's not even something that she would say, oh my god,
- 1:18:43I didn't know that you didn't have much. I'm so grateful. No,
- 1:18:45no, she was just like, no, this is what you're supposed
- 1:18:47to do and this is not abnormal. So I just wanted to say that
- 1:18:54modernity has changed women. Their expectation hasn't well, I mean like I mean
- 1:19:00like their conditions I guess like they have hasn't changed. Okay, this is
- 1:19:03the problem. Women have not changed, right. They are still have the
- 1:19:10same expectations on men than when men had advantages in order to fulfill those expectations.
- 1:19:18This is the thing I'm trying to get across to people. Women have
- 1:19:23not changed. They have not become more masculine. Because what if, okay,
- 1:19:27if that guy was dating another man and that had happened, how likely
- 1:19:31would that guy have been like, oh shit, dude, well let me
- 1:19:33take the next one, or let me give you half. Like how likely
- 1:19:39would that man have turned and looked at it other men and said, WHOA,
- 1:19:42Okay, well I actually think that I should provide for you since I
- 1:19:45am the one who's flushed with money. Right, That is a masculine urge
- 1:19:49as far as I can tell, because now that women have money, they
- 1:19:53don't want to give it to men. But when men had money, they
- 1:19:56were perfectly happy giving it to women. See what I'm getting at. Yeah,
- 1:20:01my point was they don't happen my point. My point is is that
- 1:20:04women are no longer, even by his own arguments, dependent on men's resources,
- 1:20:13because women can acquire their own resources. So they're the generals for women
- 1:20:17and not not what their expectations are, but the ifications of them has changed,
- 1:20:24Like we don't expect anything from women, but men's general is the same
- 1:20:28because it's what women impose on them. Women. In fact, this is
- 1:20:32even harder for men because now they're competing against women. Yes, women have
- 1:20:38not changed their expectations of men. They still have the same expectations of men
- 1:20:42from a time when the system was structured such that men could fulfill those expectations.
- 1:20:48That's what's really happening. Every society is structured in such a way that
- 1:20:55a man can become attractive to the women of that society. Right, we
- 1:20:59have destroyed that. We have destroyed the ability for men to become attractive to
- 1:21:03women in our society based on the expectations that women have that have not changed.
- 1:21:10They have not changed. The expectations have not changed at all. That's
- 1:21:15the problem. The problem that has happened is that men no longer have the
- 1:21:20system of living up to those expectations that helps them live up to those expectations.
- 1:21:26That is gone, and in fact, the opposite is occurring. We
- 1:21:30have a system that actively sabotages men's ability to live up to women's expectations.
- 1:21:35But women's expectations have not changed, not in the slightest. Woman with a
- 1:21:40quarter million dollar income doesn't want to stay at home man, a stay at
- 1:21:45home husband. She wants a man who makes one million. She still wants
- 1:21:49a man who can say, Babe, you'll never have to work again and
- 1:21:55sweeps her away into a life of complete leisure. She still wants that.
- 1:22:00Now maybe she's in some way she might enjoy the attention or the recognition she
- 1:22:05gets in her job. But she doesn't see the job the way men did.
- 1:22:10Men see a job as a way to support their families. That's what
- 1:22:15they did when they were the ones who had the jobs and women didn't,
- 1:22:19or at least the outside jobs. That's how they saw it. Women have
- 1:22:24never taken over that role of I am the one who is responsible. Okay,
- 1:22:30I'm the one who's going to provide and protect. Women have never taken
- 1:22:33over that role. So that role must be a very masculine role, because
- 1:22:38even when women are given every single tool to build the masculine hope chest,
- 1:22:45they don't do it. They don't like within every single tool to become the
- 1:22:50provider. They don't. They just don't because it's not who they are.
- 1:22:58Women are not providers. They're not protectors. They're not the ones who take
- 1:23:02bullets. They're not the ones who bring home the and and pad make sure
- 1:23:08the bottom line is met. They're the ones who expect to have it done
- 1:23:12for them. That has not changed. All we've done is we've fucked ourselves
- 1:23:16as a society by making men incapable of fulfilling women's desires for them. And
- 1:23:23this man is dumb. Yeah, you know, that's one thing. Like
- 1:23:28I can handle a lot of things from a man, but stupidity is where
- 1:23:33I draw the line. Well, all right, trump card throughout the stream
- 1:23:41that kind of overlooked, like, yes, obviously there was the financial aspect
- 1:23:45to it, but I don't think that's enough. I don't think that completely
- 1:23:49explains why we're seeing like marriage rates decline because I think there's there's a lot
- 1:23:55of women out there who even if they were let's say, you know,
- 1:23:59a billionaire guy, you know, fifty shades of gray, super attractive,
- 1:24:02whatever, they still want someone who's actually like a good father and someone who's
- 1:24:08carrying an actual and actual partner. And I think when there are a lot
- 1:24:11of guys who complain like, oh, well, I women just aren't interested
- 1:24:15in dating nowadays, it's like, yes, yes we are. Women still
- 1:24:18very much are interested in partners. But I feel like men are kind of
- 1:24:23at a loss as to how to relate emotionally to women in that regard.
- 1:24:27What the hell is she saying he's blaming men, it's a different problem,
- 1:24:34Like yeah, she's like she's like, oh, women are looking for partners.
- 1:24:39Yeah, I don't know. If you've seen exactly how much hatred there
- 1:24:43is for men from women online. I think Lauren is looking at like the
- 1:24:46girls in her circle, and that's great for you, but that's not the
- 1:24:50reality. Okay, I'm gonna point this out. It gets a little tedious
- 1:24:57watching two people just blame why we need to blame men again, as if
- 1:25:02that's going to continue to work, Like and and I know, I know
- 1:25:06why people like this are popular. It's because there is a gigantic tear in
- 1:25:12the sky and they're telling people not to worry about it. Oh no,
- 1:25:15we'll just blame men. That'll make it work. They'll they'll make everything go
- 1:25:18away if we just blame men. It's like, you know, you know
- 1:25:24that logically that is going to stop working eventually, because if you blame men
- 1:25:30enough, you take away the tools for men to fix problems. It's like,
- 1:25:33blame the plumber. We're taking away his wrench, you know, Blame
- 1:25:38the plumber. We're going to take away the the PVC piper. Blame the
- 1:25:42plumber. We're going to take away that stuff that they use to fill in.
- 1:25:46Yeah. I shouldn't have used plumber because I don't know plumbing supplies.
- 1:25:49But you know, you get what I'm saying, blame this palm plumber.
- 1:25:53Take another tool that he needs to fix the problem away. You see,
- 1:25:56that's what we're doing to men. It's like blame men. Take their tools
- 1:25:59away. Oh they can't fix it. We'll blame them again. Take more
- 1:26:01tools. Oh they can't fix it. We'll blame them again. Me captain,
- 1:26:04for Fox's sake, blame them again. Beat the shit out of them,
- 1:26:08Blame them again, Shoot them in the head, blame him again.
- 1:26:11Cut off their head, blame him again, unbury their body and piss on
- 1:26:16it. Why is it this working? Every time you blame men, you
- 1:26:24make them less capable of solving problems every time, every time, because every
- 1:26:29time you blame men, you take something more away from them, and then
- 1:26:33you increase your expectations. So yet, good luck to you guys. Watch
- 1:26:40this not work for the billionth time. Have you ever considered not blaming men?
- 1:26:48Okay, let's continue. I think that we can die. We can
- 1:26:55also dive in on any of these things. On a differ level. I
- 1:26:57don't know I would agree with you. It's men women like a good father
- 1:27:00thing. Again. I think the expectations for parenthood were way, way,
- 1:27:03way different back then I'm borrowing heavily from my own household experience, which I
- 1:27:09hear echoed a lot. And then I'm borrowing heavily from like sitcoms at the
- 1:27:12time, but I feel like the vast majority of the parenting was left up
- 1:27:15to the woman. And I feel, yeah, right, I watched Sitcom,
- 1:27:19So let's use that as a standard for do you realize, like who
- 1:27:24runs who was writing the stories for sitcom? Anyway, let's let's just let's
- 1:27:30hear what he has to say. It's it's bad, bad, bad argumentation.
- 1:27:34Man. The meme was always like they go to work, they come
- 1:27:38home, you leave them alone an evening, and then hopefully they kind of
- 1:27:40like play with on the weekends. And I was like, okay, selection
- 1:27:43bias, yeah, smarting to my selection bias. Okay. But then but
- 1:27:47if you said, okay, the thing is too I don't think obviously it's
- 1:27:54not a good way to measure reality. But if I were to, he's
- 1:28:00going to bring up like, I don't know, like Boy Meets World.
- 1:28:03But if I had brought up like leave it to Beaver, he would tell
- 1:28:08me how that was bad because you know, the nineteen fifties, even though
- 1:28:13that wasn't the reality for people either, but because it's more regressive and it's
- 1:28:19less credible, so it's just like it's an it's this guy's not really all
- 1:28:27right. Well, really, what people should be saying is I'll stop you
- 1:28:30there. So you're basing this on nothing but your own accept and bias.
- 1:28:34Well, first of all, let's let's bring in some actual evidence, which
- 1:28:38itself isn't necessarily ironclad, but at least it's better than whatever destiny is working
- 1:28:44off of. Let's look at the Victorian father like they did a I believe
- 1:28:48a qualitative study of letters that children had written about their fathers, and they
- 1:28:57described them as involved, as loving, as doting, you know, they
- 1:29:00described them in very glowing terms. And that was in Victorian England. So
- 1:29:08if you can if you can take the uh and it's a bias sample,
- 1:29:13because these are children who are writing about their fathers, But if you can
- 1:29:15take that, it can't be that common for fathers to be completely uninvolved with
- 1:29:21their children. And the other thing is I want to point out that in
- 1:29:26the fifties and the forties, late forties and the fifties, you were dealing
- 1:29:29with a lot of men who had just gone through an incredible trauma, and
- 1:29:32one of the symptoms of a traumatic experience is post traumatic stress syndrome obviously,
- 1:29:39which includes problems connecting with people on an emotional level. So if we look
- 1:29:45at the situation in the fifties, you got to actually consider the effect of
- 1:29:47that. But here's the other thing. Let's look at it from an evo
- 1:29:51psych perspective. Humans evolved to have paternal investment. If men are not able
- 1:30:00to take care of their kids, that's not on them. If men are
- 1:30:05not taking care of their kids, it's probably because they are damaged, abused
- 1:30:11sexually or otherwise, or because they're not being allowed to because the courts are
- 1:30:15taking them from them. Right, Men have paternal instincts. Men want to
- 1:30:20take care of their kids. If men are not taking care of their kids,
- 1:30:25it is not something that is the fault of men. It is the
- 1:30:28fault of the circumstance that is thwarting that instinct. All right, there you
- 1:30:33go. Let us continue like there's just something about his behavior that's really obnoxious.
- 1:30:40Yeah, polite, Yeah, I get it. I don't think that
- 1:30:44heat knows about that. Okay, I got a super chow from Richard Pierre
- 1:30:49again. What you got two super chows? Oh? I got two?
- 1:30:54Wait? Did another one just come through? Yeah? I did? Okay?
- 1:30:57How many of these women are craving the recognition and actcol aides that men
- 1:31:00receive for achievement without doing the actual achieving, because the doing the achieving is
- 1:31:05the ick that women don't find glamorous enough to touch. Well, that that's
- 1:31:11the reason why they won't do the jobs that are actually allowing them to do
- 1:31:15the jobs that they want to do. That that's the thing that's that I
- 1:31:18think a lot of women and people like Destiny don't recognize is that what they
- 1:31:24do can only exist in a world where the jobs they don't want to do
- 1:31:30exist. So if you're if you're like thinking, well, I don't think
- 1:31:34people should have to have kids or start families. You know, we'll let
- 1:31:39the So what if the birth rates go to hell? So what? Right?
- 1:31:43Then what you're gonna find is in one generation they're gonna be like,
- 1:31:46yeah, the power kid is going to be down again because we don't have
- 1:31:49enough men to work on it, and it will be men doing that.
- 1:31:54Right. Oh well, it looks like you're all gonna have to you know,
- 1:31:58ration out like your gas and you're heating and your air conditioning and you
- 1:32:03know, and all these other things because we don't have enough men doing this
- 1:32:06work. And of course, all of a sudden, the streamers and podcasters
- 1:32:11and online intellectuals, they're not gonna have anything to do because like their jobs
- 1:32:17can only exist in a world as comfortable and as safe and as productive as
- 1:32:25this one, which is only possible if men are running everything. And all
- 1:32:30we have to do is acknowledge that reality, because it is a reality,
- 1:32:34it is the truth. And then maybe from there we can start going,
- 1:32:39you know what, we kind of need men. We need them to run
- 1:32:43everything because women are not going to do it, Richard, just like you
- 1:32:45said, they're not. They want to do the stuff that's gonna give them
- 1:32:49the you know, like the recognition and money, yeah, they want,
- 1:32:54they want and recognition, then attention, recognition and clout and maybe like you
- 1:32:59know, and you know, like those videos where it's like here's a day
- 1:33:02in of life at Google and they're playing and going to meetings all day.
- 1:33:06Meanwhile, Google just fired like a bunch of people, or at least a
- 1:33:11lot of these tech companies fired a bunch of people women because they weren't useful
- 1:33:16because at the end of the day, you're gonna need the men, whether
- 1:33:19that's the men that are like, you know, working like like breaking their
- 1:33:25backs doing labor and other work, or they are the spurgy intellectual guys with
- 1:33:31the thick glasses that are keeping all the programs running. You're gonna need those
- 1:33:35guys because they are the backbone. So like, I don't know, I
- 1:33:41mean, I don't I know. Destin doesn't understand that because he thinks that
- 1:33:45when he like plugs something in and it turns on, it's just magic.
- 1:33:50It's nothing's causing this, right, That's why he's okay with all this,
- 1:33:55Like this this is like a worldview that's only possible in the first world.
- 1:34:01Yeah, it is, honestly, or even not in the non rural parts
- 1:34:05of the first world, like in the big cities, because when you're in
- 1:34:10the town, you're a lot closer to who's doing the infrastructure exactly because you
- 1:34:18know the family names and they're know who they are. Okay, okay,
- 1:34:23And I got another super child from Richard, Another super chol from Richard.
- 1:34:27He says, for five bucks, how many sitcoms feature a father that,
- 1:34:30after getting married is so incompetent that he would expire if you weren't reminded to
- 1:34:33breathe too many all of the modern ones and basically not. When I say
- 1:34:39modern, I mean like in the last forty years. You know, I
- 1:34:44know you guys are not gonna like this. But I think it kind of
- 1:34:45started with Marrie with Children. As much as everybody likes that show, I
- 1:34:48think that was one of the first examples of that. Homer Simpson, Dad,
- 1:34:56okay, all right, and then like even Man even like Bloe Meet's
- 1:35:00World and stuff, although I think that Father was a little bit more motionally
- 1:35:03in tune with with Corey and Sean. But I feel like the the meme
- 1:35:08was always like go ask your mom, Go talk to your mom, Go
- 1:35:10talk to your mom. Mother. That's you know, I just got blah
- 1:35:12bla blah blah. And I feel that mom was considered to be the moral
- 1:35:15center and moral and emotional center of the family. Yeah, you're you're basically
- 1:35:19like giving you're telling us the truth right now about media very Larson strip,
- 1:35:26it's it's it's male mosquitoes that bite like you are a dumb ass, Like
- 1:35:30what the hell is this nonsense? Like according to my own personal bias.
- 1:35:36This is how I see the world. I watched TV when I was a
- 1:35:40kid. Let me tell you about for your opinion. Okay, you like
- 1:35:45so far Again, I guess there was a little bit more meat to what
- 1:35:48he was saying about men and women, although I've heard all of it before,
- 1:35:53like every single fucking bit of it before. You're a little low als,
- 1:35:58Okay, little bit, a little closer to your mic. No,
- 1:36:01no, little bit, it's not that. It's that for Okay, this
- 1:36:04this, yeah, yeah, I need to switch. Okay, I'm gonna
- 1:36:09do something here. Hopefully this will change that because I keep brushing the the
- 1:36:15this mic has these little this little touch pad, and I keep brushing it
- 1:36:19accidentally, which is reducing the volume. Okay, so I turned the touch
- 1:36:24pad so it's up away from my hands and yeah, that'll wait. Wait,
- 1:36:30why why did you just go down? Like I didn't even touch you
- 1:36:34when he went down? I think my mic is haunted. Mm hmm.
- 1:36:41This is actually really scary. I'm gonna turn the light on now. All
- 1:36:45right, I'm gonna play more of the video. How much longer do you
- 1:36:49want to do this? We're about ten minutes in, so we're not doing
- 1:36:53too bad. Oh yeah for us, No, okay, just ironically with
- 1:36:57the standard. I think for a lot of what let's keep up till the
- 1:37:00next like question that's at the time. And I think that the expectations for
- 1:37:04co parenting, the expectations for emotional voment of the father, I feel like
- 1:37:08those have all increased pretty dramatically over at time. I really do. That's
- 1:37:13bullshit, man, Men have always co parented. Stop it like to go
- 1:37:17ask your mom thing, that's that's not reality, dude. Like my you
- 1:37:21know, my father, he I learned not long ago that my father and
- 1:37:29my mother never got married, but they lived together, and as far as
- 1:37:32I could tell, they were married, they were basically together. They just
- 1:37:35she just didn't marry him for whatever reason. I think my mom she's got
- 1:37:41a little she's got a feminist side to her. She's got a little little
- 1:37:44Jezebel spirit going on. But my but my dad, you know that I
- 1:37:49was lucky, like they they were a good compliment for me. There were
- 1:37:54things that I wanted, you know, that I wanted to tell ask my
- 1:37:58father about, and he would ask me to talk to my mom. But
- 1:38:01the only reason was because he knew that he was going to demand the final
- 1:38:05say, and he was mostly indifferent, so it but it wasn't like,
- 1:38:11oh, I'm not involved with my kids. That's bullshit. Like my father
- 1:38:14would take us, you know, out and we play sports and he'd poast
- 1:38:18a little league team and I wouldn't even say he was like the ideal father,
- 1:38:24but he was involved and he loves us very much. And you know,
- 1:38:28I think that like when Destiny says, oh, yeah, I look
- 1:38:30at my home life, I think he's going to go into his own home
- 1:38:32life and he's going to claim his parents were great, but then he's going
- 1:38:34to criticize his dad. And I think this is really getting to the to
- 1:38:39the root of his problems because he doesn't. I think he does resent his
- 1:38:42father, but he pretends like his father was okay because he needs to justify
- 1:38:46his beliefs about men and women. So he has to be like, oh,
- 1:38:50yeah, you know, like men just need to be more like women
- 1:38:55and then it'll be okay. We are biparental species, which means men have
- 1:38:59every bit a month as much desire for the most part, to parent children
- 1:39:03as women. So if men are not doing it, what's stopping on Destiny
- 1:39:09what force is stopping men from being able to be what they were meant to
- 1:39:15be in terms of their evolution? Okay, let's hear what he has to
- 1:39:20say. All right. I feel like in the past, the big I
- 1:39:24feel like we over romanticize a lot of things, like like, oh God,
- 1:39:27I don't know how old you are now, but I'm thirty five now,
- 1:39:29and now I'm old enough to where I see lower generations talk about the
- 1:39:31older generations, and I see how fucking stupid it is. And I know
- 1:39:34I've done this when I was in my twenties. But the some girl on
- 1:39:40Twitter was tweeting out, She's what was she? I think she was a
- 1:39:45she was a gen zer. She tweets out, and she's like, this
- 1:39:47is bullshit. I work at Walmart forty hours a week. Did you see
- 1:39:49this video? Do what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, she's prying
- 1:39:51the car and she's like, twenty years ago, on minimum wage, you
- 1:39:55could afford blah blah blah blah blah. It's like, twenty years ago,
- 1:39:58I worked at McDonald's for five fifteen an hour, you can afford shit?
- 1:40:00What the fuck thro me? Yeah you weren't. I mean that's I was
- 1:40:03on like the federal minimum. When I was in college, for sure,
- 1:40:06I didn't have my own like one or two bedroom apartment in a way.
- 1:40:10So I just I feel like when people sometimes when they talk about the past,
- 1:40:12I feel like they romanticize the fuck out of a lot, where like,
- 1:40:15oh, the average man was like an emotionally stable guy that worked a
- 1:40:19hard job. White picket fence, good union, I'm sorry, three kids,
- 1:40:23dinner on the table. You're making that up, bro. Nobody thought
- 1:40:27it was ideal. Yeah, it was all It was all people doing the
- 1:40:30best they could. Okay, how's my sound? Yeah it's good? Okay,
- 1:40:36young men? Oh see it just dropped down for some reason. Do
- 1:40:42you see that? I hear it. Yes, it's just like randomly dropping
- 1:40:46down. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I'm blowing out the mic.
- 1:40:49Who knows. Anyway, it's got this like mentality where I'm constantly fighting
- 1:40:54it. Did it again? All right? My my mic has haunted everybody.
- 1:40:57But I don't even know, like is this is this like a fed
- 1:41:00like is it glowing like what? Like just I'm gonna you up a little
- 1:41:04bit and you just go ahead and talk, okay, all right? Because
- 1:41:08it always seems to want to go to there. You see, right,
- 1:41:12Yeah, I didn't touch anything. Maybe you have the ability to set like
- 1:41:15like uh pain limit or something you call it, yeah, or like it
- 1:41:20can't go over a certain a limitter. There might be a limitter on it.
- 1:41:25But just just make your point. Let's just move on, all right.
- 1:41:29Well I don't have to get really close. Okay, So my point
- 1:41:33is, yes, young men are more fucked up than I remember there.
- 1:41:41And the reason, in my opinion, the reason why is because we are
- 1:41:45now on generation three of deliberately harming men's mental health. Like you think it
- 1:41:53doesn't have an effect, it does, and I almost it almost sounds like
- 1:41:58you're about to blame women, Alison. We can't do that kind of like
- 1:42:00somebody. But it can't be women. All right, I'm not going to
- 1:42:03necessarily Okay, this is a dynamic, right, young men are, like
- 1:42:12I think they are seven times more likely to commit suicide. And this isn't
- 1:42:15on them, This is not on them. This is three generations now of
- 1:42:21this bullshit that is harming the that's actively harming their mental health. Like I
- 1:42:28talked about how the therapy industry not only doesn't help men, I'm with this
- 1:42:33new information that I'm getting, it sounds like it's actively harmful to men,
- 1:42:40Like it's it is men who commit suicide, most of them, something like
- 1:42:45ninety percent of them I've seen, have been in contact with the mental health
- 1:42:49industry or some aspect of frontline services. And I'm saying, instead of asking
- 1:42:56men why they don't get help, maybe the reason why they're committing the committing
- 1:43:00suicide is because they got in contact with help, and help actively made it
- 1:43:06worse, to the point like that maybe they were holding out a hope.
- 1:43:11Well, if I go to a therapist, no, and the therapist makes
- 1:43:14everything worse, well, that's the last hope off that, you know.
- 1:43:17And this is this is what I'm looking at. It is an absolute bloodbath
- 1:43:23when it comes to the well being, the sense of well being for young
- 1:43:26men. And I see the dysfunction because I actually go and I talk to
- 1:43:31young men, which I really doubt Destiny does, and I also doubt Lauren
- 1:43:35Chen does. And this is the other thing about these YouTube talking heads.
- 1:43:40They don't talk to people. They talk at people. I talk to people
- 1:43:45daily, you know, and I'm and young men and I see the damage.
- 1:43:54And the funny thing is It isn't even the guys who support the show,
- 1:43:57because they are actually pretty pretty stable, pretty normal in a lot of
- 1:44:02ways, although I think that they're a little bit on the on the I
- 1:44:08think their first adopters for new ideas. I'm talking about like when when Shoe
- 1:44:14on Head did that video, there was a raft of guys that came into
- 1:44:18the free section that I talked to, and I'm like, these dudes,
- 1:44:24their their their minds are absolutely full of fuck. And I'm like, people
- 1:44:31don't know that, because, like one guy was like, you would never
- 1:44:34know how damaged I am because i'm, you know, in my workplace because
- 1:44:40of the way I act in my job. And it's like, yes,
- 1:44:44that's exactly what's going on. All of these guys are keeping it together for
- 1:44:48their jobs, but outside of the jobs, they are incredibly damaged and they're
- 1:44:56they they suffer from obsessive disorders, they suffer from depression, and all kinds
- 1:45:01of others. And I am not talking about the guys who support us than
- 1:45:05the ones that I actually talk to regularly, because compared to what I've that
- 1:45:10little peak into Shoe's audience, no offense, guys, that little peak into
- 1:45:15her audience was terrifying because I knew that that is more like the average man,
- 1:45:23and the average man is one sharp shock from complete and utter destruction.
- 1:45:30And I'm like these two people who who only talk at others, they never
- 1:45:36talk with them. They have no clue the razor the razor's edge that we
- 1:45:43are walking now, because these are the guys that are keeping everything running and
- 1:45:48their mental health is absolutely shit and nobody cares, and nobody's doing anything about
- 1:45:55it, and they're keep pumping more of the talks and that's harming them into
- 1:45:59the atmosphere and nobody cares. And what are these two doing? Well,
- 1:46:03let's blame them some more? Are you? Are you out there faltering?
- 1:46:06Let's put some more weight on that dying donkey. Let's see how much weight
- 1:46:11they can carry, Like this is stupid, And look at the fucking size
- 1:46:15of their audience, increasing the problem, and that's all they're doing. And
- 1:46:20you notice this, This is their only solution at the end of the day,
- 1:46:24This is the only solution of every single political group out there. Blame
- 1:46:30men, and that's it. Yeah, you guys should, oh, okay,
- 1:46:43you have a comment productive critique of this discussion. I think that would
- 1:46:47be and what's gonna happen is they're gonna continue to blame men until the lights
- 1:46:51start going out, and then they're gonna blame men some more, and then
- 1:46:57the plumbing is gonna go out, and then they're gonna blame men some more,
- 1:47:01and the Internet's gonna go out, and then they're gonna blame men some
- 1:47:04more, and they'll have nothing to fucking eat, and they'll keep blaming men
- 1:47:10because they are so heavily invested in the entire edifice that justifies blaming men.
- 1:47:17And this is the thing, Like when when our civilization, when the destruction
- 1:47:21layer is unearthed by the future archaeologists, this is the thing they're gonna be
- 1:47:27like, well, what destroyed this? What caused the systems collapse? Well,
- 1:47:30look it must have been men because everybody was blaming them. It's like,
- 1:47:35Okay, well, you guys are just gonna keep fucking doing that,
- 1:47:39just gonna keep pushing that. Well I guess we're doing that. I guess
- 1:47:45that's what we're doing. And again I am not talking about the guys who
- 1:47:50support us. Are the people who are sort of organically came to become our
- 1:47:55audience because you guys, you actually give me hope for the future, because
- 1:48:00at the very least you're willing to question aspects of this stuff that isn't working.
- 1:48:06You're willing to look at it and say, hey, this isn't working,
- 1:48:10and you're willing to question your attachment to that. I mean, you
- 1:48:14don't realize, like you guys, do you guys who are supporting us,
- 1:48:17You guys who are listening to us, and you aren't like foaming at the
- 1:48:21mouth because oh my god, we need to blame men. How dare they
- 1:48:24not do that? You know, you guys, you don't give yourselves enough
- 1:48:29pats on the back because you don't realize how special you are, how rarefied,
- 1:48:34how unique, and how strong you are compared to this shit because all
- 1:48:42they know is blaming men, and all they'll ever know is blaming men.
- 1:48:45As the lights turn out, So I gots a rumble rant which I missed.
- 1:48:55Oh I don't know why it didn't show up in my chat, like
- 1:49:01my social stream chat. But Nova fan twenty one gave us two dollars and
- 1:49:05said Destiny says he gets the idea of traditional marriage in generals from stickcoms.
- 1:49:10That says a lot. Yeah, it's almost like that's the function of propaganda,
- 1:49:14and he fell for it. Thank you for that, Nova Fan.
- 1:49:17I just want to make sure I didn't miss any of those. And I'm
- 1:49:21sorry from my ranting, guys, but I just wanted to put that out
- 1:49:25there. These two will be blaming men till the end days. They'll be
- 1:49:29blaming men even when they realize, Oh shit, I think blaming men is
- 1:49:31causing the end days? But what do we do? Let's blame men some
- 1:49:34more? Why did men stop us from blaming them? They're to blame like,
- 1:49:40this is it? This is their entire everything, every single every single
- 1:49:45political group, this is there. This, It all comes down to this
- 1:49:49blaming men. I hope people have noticed that. Have you started to notice
- 1:49:54that everything, every political position is all part of the blame men party?
- 1:50:00Yeah? We should probably talk about this. Yeah, let's let's like the
- 1:50:04palate. Let's wind down and do a palate cleanser. So we're gonna be
- 1:50:08looking at this pretty happed up. I'm sorry, guys, I'll believe mine.
- 1:50:14Is it really though? Well? I mean, Allison, I mean,
- 1:50:17until people realize what's going on, we're just gonna have to keep trying
- 1:50:23to show them. That's all I mean. I don't know what to tell
- 1:50:25you, Like, not everyone's gonna be okay, but some of us are
- 1:50:28so, and those of us who are are you know, will be like,
- 1:50:33we'll move on and probably adapt. Like so, when we lose,
- 1:50:38like, you know, some of our conveniences, some of our comforts of
- 1:50:44modernity, the people who are left will probably be okay with it because they
- 1:50:47will probably be able to adapt. So, all right, so we have
- 1:50:51this article Institute for Family Studies. You just want me to read it.
- 1:50:59I don't think it's very long. You could take a look at how long
- 1:51:00it is, and then we could conjecture upon it. Uh, yeah,
- 1:51:05it just good, but I'll read it. Okay, let's just ok Are
- 1:51:11married people still happier? By Nicholas H. Wolfink And it reads for a
- 1:51:20long time. The prevailing assumption in the social sciences has been that married people,
- 1:51:25husbands and wives alike, are happier than their unmarried Nearly twenty five years
- 1:51:30ago, sociologist Linda Waite made this point in her presidential address the Population Association
- 1:51:36of America. Or recently, Brad Wilcox and I presented data to this effect
- 1:51:43in our twenty sixteen book Soulmates. To be sure, the evidence about the
- 1:51:48direct benefits of marriage is weaker than it used to be. Studies have shown
- 1:51:53that the benefits of marriage for health and men's wages are a product of selection,
- 1:51:58not causation. Health your men and men with greater earning capacity are more
- 1:52:01likely to get married in the first place. Yep, that we already knew.
- 1:52:06Nonetheless, no one has questioned the benefits of marriage for happiness in the
- 1:52:11decades since the late sociologist Jesse Bernard first did so in her book The Future
- 1:52:15of Marriage. How strong is the relationship? Data from the General Social Survey
- 1:52:20GSS collected between twenty ten and twenty eighteen are representative. Here is a graph.
- 1:52:29It says Figure one A happiness by marital and parenthood status for adults age
- 1:52:34eighteen fifty males by this is this is the total married. What was that?
- 1:52:43It's the total it's men and yeah, it's just the both the adults.
- 1:52:45Right, So married like with no kids is forty percent with kids forty
- 1:52:54one percent? Yeah? What, No, it's it's just I'm just repeating
- 1:52:58what you said. It's okay, separated in divorce or divorced of twenty four
- 1:53:03percent without kids eighteen percent with kids obviously, that's that's got to be the
- 1:53:09toughest, right and never married twenty two percent, uh and twenty percent.
- 1:53:15Yeah they so a single woman with children is half as likely. Or no,
- 1:53:20let's look at the female let's look at the females. Ye speak,
- 1:53:25going the story straightforward, Married respondents are much happier, and consistent with prior
- 1:53:29research, parents are a little less happy than non parents, provided they are
- 1:53:32unmarried. In addition, the results don't look that different when limited to female
- 1:53:36survey respondents as well. So here is just women, right, yep,
- 1:53:43So married women are the happiest forty five percent, so still like over less
- 1:53:50than half, but that's kind of weird and like very happy. This is
- 1:53:56all very happy, so that the results are very happy happy neutral. Oh
- 1:54:01yeah, right, says right here percentage very happy? Yeah, so forty
- 1:54:04five percent very happy, forty one percent. If if they have children,
- 1:54:10so slightly less happy? Yeah, currently, only slightly though if they don't
- 1:54:16have children as and and they're separated as twenty seven percent with kids twenty percent,
- 1:54:25never married twenty four percent, uh. And if they're single mothers nineteen
- 1:54:29percent, right, yeah, So across the board, single mothers. Single
- 1:54:32moms are the least happy the least see what it's saying. Here are the
- 1:54:38mirror image results for adults looking at unhappiness rather than happiness. The same pattern
- 1:54:42hold. So this is like couples in general, we have unhappiness. Married
- 1:54:48couples are only six percent, not two or six oh yeah yeah right,
- 1:54:56well married without kids, married with kids. Yeah, So so at six
- 1:55:00per se were married, no kids, very unhappy or and seven percent with
- 1:55:05noble It says not too happy, So I guess not really unhappy, but
- 1:55:10not skilled for separated separate, for separated parents, it's twenty three percent not
- 1:55:17too happy, sixteen percent not too happy for separated men and women without children,
- 1:55:25so sixteen percent not too happy for so, sixteen percent not too happy
- 1:55:30for separated and never married men and women without children, and it's twenty two
- 1:55:34percent not too happy for single mothers or in single dads. Okay, so
- 1:55:42let's go let there, Yeah, but most of them are probably We can
- 1:55:45observe a similar pattern when the sample is limited to just women. Children increase
- 1:55:48unhappiness a little more for separated slash divorced or never married women, likely in
- 1:55:55response to the challenges which were chosen in most cases, yeah, it's a
- 1:56:00choice. No, it is unless the man dies like he's widowed, or
- 1:56:02he leaves her or something. But I think in many cases it is a
- 1:56:06choice. So as you can see a single mom, Oh, go ahead,
- 1:56:15yeah, I'll read it out. So the not too happy statistic is
- 1:56:19for women is married with no children six percent, married with children seven percent,
- 1:56:28separated or divorced with no children fourteen percent with children twenty four percent,
- 1:56:34never married without children fourteen percent, never married with children twenty one percent.
- 1:56:42So across the board, single mothers or single women well, in particular,
- 1:56:47single mothers are three times more likely to be not too happy and half as
- 1:56:56likely to be very happy as married women. As married women, the single
- 1:57:00biggest thing a woman can do to prove her chances of being happy is have
- 1:57:08a relationship with a man successfully and stay with him. That is the single
- 1:57:15biggest thing. Not a job, not an achievement at the job, not
- 1:57:19a house, not a mouse. Single biggest thing that a woman can do
- 1:57:27to be happy is to have a man. Now, that makes perfect sense,
- 1:57:31because again, we are biparental mammals with instincts around pair bonding. In
- 1:57:36fact, pair bonding is our wind condition. As biparental mammals, you know,
- 1:57:44that's what he instinctively regards our wind condition. And what a surprise that
- 1:57:49when women fulfill their instinctive wind condition, they are happier. And here's the
- 1:57:56thing, it's not just it's not just being in a relationship and ship,
- 1:58:00because when women choose other women, their unhappiness increases, their rate of depression
- 1:58:08increases, their rate of domestic and violence increases, their rate of sexual assault
- 1:58:14increases. Right, so when women are in relationships with other women, well
- 1:58:20they find out what it's like to be in a relationship with a woman.
- 1:58:24But so it's not a situation where it's just having a partner. It's specifically
- 1:58:30having a man in her life. A man is the single best thing a
- 1:58:34woman can do for herself. I want guys to understand that. On today,
- 1:58:41like you're probably sitting a lot of you might be sitting alone, or
- 1:58:45maybe you are women who are listening to this and you actually are interested in
- 1:58:48men's issues, which is a rare breed, but you're you're definitely you know,
- 1:58:53you know, it's good to talk to you as well. The single
- 1:58:57best thing a woman can do for herself is have a man. You are,
- 1:59:02as men, the most valuable things in a woman's life, even if
- 1:59:09they don't have you, even if they've decided to replace a man with an
- 1:59:16obsession with ideology, what they reap from that is misery. And this is
- 1:59:24something that people need to men need to realize this have always been the most
- 1:59:30important thing for women, and they have been convinced, through generations of this
- 1:59:36frankly bullshit, unscientific excuse for an ideology, that that is not the case,
- 1:59:45and the benefit that they are reaping, the so called benefit as they're
- 1:59:49now more miserable, more medicated, more hateful, and more disturbed than ever
- 2:00:00because they have replaced the most beneficial thing in their life, which was a
- 2:00:05man or a potential man, with feminism woohoo yep. And they continue to
- 2:00:15do it, or they try to replace that with another woman and they discover
- 2:00:21what it's like to be in a relationship with somebody who also regards their partner
- 2:00:28in terms of a utility, you know, like it's it's it's just and
- 2:00:32it's sad. It's sad that women have been convinced otherwise, that they have
- 2:00:39to be convinced that they don't need to learn how to be in a relationship.
- 2:00:45I mean, it's not that hard. If I've managed it, anybody
- 2:00:47can because I'm not I'm not like the I'm not the easiest person to get
- 2:00:51along with. And I know that right. If I can do it,
- 2:00:55anybody can't. Yeah, all you have to do is want to. All
- 2:01:00you have to do is want to. That's it. A man will be
- 2:01:04happy if you are making an effort to try to be a good partner in
- 2:01:10some way. They'll be happy with that, even if you fail, even
- 2:01:14if you fall on your face. But you have to want to. You
- 2:01:18have to be willing to. Like that older lady who has had a fifty
- 2:01:25year relationship said, you have to be willing to be wrong. Sometimes you
- 2:01:30have to be willing to say, Yeah, I'm the one who needs to
- 2:01:31grow and change. I'm the one who needs to adapt. I'm the one
- 2:01:35who needs to improve my social skills. I'm the one who needs to close
- 2:01:39my mouth. Sometimes. You got to be able to do that. And
- 2:01:44you know what, when you do that, you also become a better person
- 2:01:46to yourself, which is probably why we're seeing these stats, because you know,
- 2:01:54when you can be happy with a man, maybe you're also learning to
- 2:01:58be happy by yourself in some ways. Anyway, I'm just I'm just putting
- 2:02:04this out and i want men to know this. I want the men listening
- 2:02:08to me now to know this, regardless of what you hear today, regardless
- 2:02:12of what you hear in the world on TV, regardless of the talking heads
- 2:02:17like Lauren Chen who only talk at people. They never listen to them,
- 2:02:23right, they never talk with people, and all their entire entire toolkit consists
- 2:02:29of blaming men harder. Let's double down on that blaming of men, because
- 2:02:32surely that's gonna that's gonna make a difference this time. That's it. That's
- 2:02:38all they have to offer. Despite all of them and all of their attitudes.
- 2:02:42At the end of the day, the most valuable thing in a woman's
- 2:02:45life is a man, and that has not changed. The only thing has
- 2:02:51changed is now women are incapable of being partners with men because we have destroyed,
- 2:03:01destroyed the system that gave men the ability to become attractive to women,
- 2:03:08and women still demand that men be as attractive as they were when that system
- 2:03:13was intact. Right, you know, we cut men off of the knees,
- 2:03:16but women still want them to be as tall as they were before we
- 2:03:19were doing that, right, So that hasn't changed. All that's changed is
- 2:03:25that women have inherited. Now three generations of smack talk about the worth of
- 2:03:30men, when three generations of the deconstruction of what made men attractive to women
- 2:03:35in the past, and they have not changed what they expect. That's what's
- 2:03:42happened. There's nothing wrong with you, Okay, most most people can improve,
- 2:03:46you know, like maybe maybe you can, I don't know, improve
- 2:03:49skills. Maybe you can improve your social skills by having certain jobs or going
- 2:03:57out and being part of clubs. That's it's fine, you know, there's
- 2:04:00always room for improvement. But unlike what everybody is saying to men, what
- 2:04:08men are indeed the most important thing to women and they will always be.
- 2:04:15And when the society crashes and burns and women are rolling over and dying,
- 2:04:23they're not gonna regret not getting that raise, like you think that's what you
- 2:04:30regret on your deathbed. Oh geez, I wish i'd earned that extra of
- 2:04:34twenty five cents an hour. I wish I'd gotten that placard on my freaking
- 2:04:39office. No, it's not so women have been brainwashed. And you know
- 2:04:45what, I know exactly why they've been brainwashed. At the end of the
- 2:04:47day, it doesn't even have anything to do with benefiting women, and feminism
- 2:04:53never did. It's a fucking syop. And if it isn't a syop,
- 2:04:57it's an advertising campaign. Women worship an advertising campaign. It's as absurd,
- 2:05:05it's as ridiculous as women worshiping Margarine, like that Mellow Yellow ad. Do
- 2:05:10you remember the Mellow Yellow ad? You know, no, I don't know
- 2:05:13what you're talking about, but worshiping Margarine just makes my a tongue sticky.
- 2:05:19The thing if women had worship Margarine or Jello molds or ikea furniture, which
- 2:05:27is essentially the same thing, they're they're worshiping a cargo cult. Feminism is
- 2:05:30an advertising campaign. Sex war is an advertising campaign. You're worshiping an advertising
- 2:05:36campaign. It's a cargo cult. Right. If they had worshiped anything else,
- 2:05:45we would be better off. I mean, maybe there would be a
- 2:05:47lot of Margarine sculptures, you know, maybe there would be even more elaborate
- 2:05:53Jello mold sculptures. But you know, I think I would pay for you
- 2:05:57know, I think that's a price I would pay for you know, I
- 2:05:59would pay every every house would have like their seven foot jello mold sculpture,
- 2:06:04some weird head cheese thing. That's fine. If that's how women had self
- 2:06:09actualized, we would be better off than this sex war cargo cult advertising campaign
- 2:06:15called feminism, possibly also a CIA sy op. Okay, I have finished
- 2:06:21my rant. I'm done. Okay, I think we should wrap it up.
- 2:06:28So you've gone for two hours? Yes, we have, and I
- 2:06:30don't think there's anything left. Okay. So I did get a super chat
- 2:06:33from Derek Workman. I'm gonna read it really quick. He says, that
- 2:06:35is not true, Allison. You are a lot easier to get along with
- 2:06:39than the women on the Whatever podcast or Pearls Channel. Thank you, Derek
- 2:06:44Workman, Eric, Derek Workman. I'm gonna try. I try. That's
- 2:06:48about the only thing I'll say about myself. I try, Do I succeed?
- 2:06:55I don't know, but I try. But anyway, So I just
- 2:06:58wanted to remind everyone we are. I'm a monthly fundraiser. You know,
- 2:07:00for all of you who actually support like it is incredible and you really should
- 2:07:09feel proud of yourself because it is an effort to actually invest in the idea
- 2:07:15that men are not to blame, like it is an effort to be able
- 2:07:18to see the world, not just see the world not in terms of blaming
- 2:07:21men, but actually invest in the message that maybe we should stop doing that.
- 2:07:27You should really be proud of yourselves, all of you supporters, all
- 2:07:30of the people who've made it possible for us to get to this point,
- 2:07:32and if you would like to join them, the ranks of the few,
- 2:07:36the brave and the bitchy, the ones who refuse to continue to braame men
- 2:07:41even though it's comfortable, even though we don't have to worry about the terror
- 2:07:44in the sky and the evil tentacles, because as long as we brame and
- 2:07:46blame men, it's obviously not our problem, you know, and we're we
- 2:07:50we As long as we blame men, you know it's going to be solved,
- 2:07:55right, Okay. You are the few who can see past that and
- 2:07:59invest stin it in the future that doing something different might bring. You know,
- 2:08:05let's just do something different. So if you want to be part of
- 2:08:09that, please go to feed the Badger dot calm slash support. Never think
- 2:08:13that what you do doesn't matter, because it does. If we disappear,
- 2:08:18then who will be the ones saying maybe we should stop blaming men, Like
- 2:08:24we've blamed men quite a bit, and we continue to blame men and we
- 2:08:28continue to double down on it. Have we have we considered not doing that?
- 2:08:31You know, let's let's entertain that for a moment. Okay, without
- 2:08:37your support, that voice wouldn't exist. So give yourselves a pat in the
- 2:08:43back. And if you're thinking about supporting, feed the Badger dot colm slash
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- 2:08:52feed the Badger dot calm slash subscribe, which is really helpful because again we
- 2:08:56are seeing a little contraction in our subscription revenue, which is concerning. But
- 2:09:01I still appreciate everybody who has supported up to this point, So thank you.
- 2:09:07And what I want you to take away is that you have worth as
- 2:09:15men. You are the most valuable thing a woman can have in her life,
- 2:09:20and you have the right to demand a society that recognizes that. And
- 2:09:24if that's the kind of message you want to support, be the Badger dot
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- 2:09:33want to say, hey, that's a nice sentiment. Alison fed the Badger
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