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Mac & Bone Show - Trevor Matich Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We got to talk some college football, and who better
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  Speaker 1: to do it with than Trevor Maddich. He's killing it
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  Speaker 1: on the college football final. I record it overnight, Boney.
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  Speaker 1: I watch it to start my Sunday morning, every Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 1: and Trevor Maddich has been a part of that college
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  Speaker 1: football final crew this season, doing a great job. ESPN's
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Maddich joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Hey, Trevor,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, man? How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Matt. How are you guys?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on, Trevor? We're doing good, man. Except NC
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  Speaker 1: State fans, Trevor. They're still trying to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: the heck happened at the end of that game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what did happen? I mean, did they play last week?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a game end in any, like,
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  Speaker 1: is there anything similar? You've watched a lot of football. What, like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you compare that to? Because that was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only one that I can think of is
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  Speaker 2: the Michigan-Michigan State ending with the block punt touchdown, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, 10, 15 years ago, something like that. That
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  Speaker 2: was crazy. But this one, I mean, block punts happen.
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  Speaker 2: This doesn't happen, right? And, I mean, of course, C.J. Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: He has had such a good career. He's such a
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  Speaker 2: good player, such a good guy, and this– I hope
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  Speaker 2: this isn't the last memory that people have of him.
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  Speaker 2: I hope NC State really roars to a tremendous season
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  Speaker 2: from here. But, you know, people break it down all
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  Speaker 2: the time. The truth of it is I still want
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  Speaker 2: to know more detail about what he was told. I
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  Speaker 2: know what Coach Doran said kind of briefly, that he
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  Speaker 2: was told to burn some time, take the safety, don't
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  Speaker 2: fumble it. Well, take the safety was the problem. And
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  Speaker 2: then CJ said he's a competitor and he just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to compete. And it's like, well, what does that mean exactly, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because even though he stayed up and took the hit,
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  Speaker 2: protecting the football was the prime directive. And the irony is,
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  Speaker 2: if he would have just taken an immediate knee and
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  Speaker 2: left four seconds on the clock, then only one miracle
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  Speaker 2: play by Vanderbilt would have won them the game anyway,
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  Speaker 2: and that probably wouldn't have happened. And so there's just
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  Speaker 2: so many what-ifs here. My thought goes to the kid
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  Speaker 2: because he is way too good of a player and
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  Speaker 2: has contributed way too much to NC State and the
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  Speaker 2: ACC to have this be the memory.
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  Speaker 3: How much of a challenge is it going to be, Trevor,
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  Speaker 3: for Dave Doran to get his team to come back
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  Speaker 3: and respond after that? Do you think that they can
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  Speaker 3: galvanize themselves and use it as, hey, that was a
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  Speaker 3: low moment and go from there? Is that a type
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  Speaker 3: of loss where they can never recover from? How do
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  Speaker 3: you think it goes for the Pack from here on out?
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  Speaker 2: I think it depends on what happens because Appalachian State now,
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  Speaker 2: App State's 3-0 right now. They're a real opponent. They're
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  Speaker 2: not a cupcake. And we'll find out how they practice
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  Speaker 2: this week is what is going to be the key.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem, it's the same problem for LSU, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, in Texas A & M after deflating losses,
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  Speaker 2: different style of deflating loss. But can you be focused
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  Speaker 2: and energetic and have urgency in practice when you emotionally
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  Speaker 2: are so far down? And it's easier as a player
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  Speaker 2: to get blown out. just speaking specifically of NC State now,
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  Speaker 2: because if you just get blown out, hey, it's the
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  Speaker 2: other team's day, you don't like it, but you just
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  Speaker 2: put it behind you. But to have a game won
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  Speaker 2: and then to lose in this fashion, and then to
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  Speaker 2: have media and social media all over it like they
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  Speaker 2: have been, I mean, that's an incredible emotional deflation. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if they lose to App State, that is where I
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  Speaker 2: think the season's in danger. Yeah, it is a snowball.
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  Speaker 2: If they beat App State... they're good enough to be
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  Speaker 2: able to come out of it. But ultimately, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to tell us everything about how resilient
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  Speaker 2: this team is. It kind of reminds me a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago, remember when Miami had the game won, I
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  Speaker 2: think against Georgia Tech, and they decided to run the
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  Speaker 2: ball to give the running back an extra little stat
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  Speaker 2: and ended up losing the game on a fumble because
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  Speaker 2: of that. And everybody just was down on Mario Cristobal. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he took a real national championship game last year. So
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  Speaker 2: Dave Dorn is a very good coach. The question is,
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  Speaker 2: can they, can this week, be a recovery week for them,
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  Speaker 2: or will it end up spiraling them?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. This is a huge game
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  Speaker 1: for them, no doubt about it. We're talking with Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Mattis from ESPN, talking some college football. Okay, so let's
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  Speaker 1: stick with the can they bounce back theme because South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina last week gets off to a 16-0 lead against
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State at home. The crowd's going crazy. and they
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  Speaker 1: then get outscored. Over the next 48 points, they score
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  Speaker 1: only seven of them. I mean, Mississippi State turned the
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  Speaker 1: game around. So, Trevor, now they go to Alabama. Like,
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  Speaker 1: do you see them putting up a fight, having a
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  Speaker 1: chance to pull off an upset, or do you worry
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  Speaker 1: about their mental state going into this game?
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  Speaker 2: Well, right now the coach is under fire, isn't he?
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  Speaker 2: And he's kind of being snippy with the media, which
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  Speaker 2: also creates its own little snowball, to use your word,
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  Speaker 2: of drama. But the problem with Alabama is that they
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  Speaker 2: can do everything Mississippi State can do except better. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback, Keelan Russell, is a mobile guy like Mississippi
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  Speaker 2: State's Camario Taylor, who's been a revelation, hasn't he, by
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  Speaker 2: the way? Yeah. But Russell at Alabama has been growing,
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  Speaker 2: not just as a runner, but as a passer. The
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  Speaker 2: offensive line is coming together. The defense is ferocious.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, the South Carolina team is in
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  Speaker 2: danger of getting smashed in the mouth here. Losing at
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  Speaker 2: Alabama is by no means a season crusher for a
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  Speaker 2: team in the position of South Carolina. But losing at
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  Speaker 2: home to Mississippi State and then getting crushed by Alabama,
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  Speaker 2: it's the same thing. And so it comes back to, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so these are college students. They all make more than
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  Speaker 2: we do, a lot more than we do. So technically
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  Speaker 2: they're pros, I guess. But they're still college-age kids. And
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  Speaker 2: how will they respond mentally? Lou Holtz always used to
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  Speaker 2: say that you have a different team every week because
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  Speaker 2: you don't know which star you're relying on. His girlfriend
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  Speaker 2: made him mad that week, and he's thinking about her
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  Speaker 2: all week to practice. So, you know, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be another game where the resilience emotionally of a
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  Speaker 2: team is going to dictate whether they have a chance
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  Speaker 2: or whether they just get smashed.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor, two years ago, Lenora Sellers at Clemson had a
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  Speaker 3: game for the ages where he dominated and was carrying
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  Speaker 3: and trucking Clemson defenders. And we thought, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 3: Sellers is a Heisman guy in the future. Then they
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  Speaker 3: go to the bowl game against Illinois, and he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: play that well. And it sort of goes into last
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  Speaker 3: year where you kept waiting for Sellers to have that
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  Speaker 3: jumping off point again, and he's not had it. How
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  Speaker 3: surprised are you that Sellers has never really become that
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  Speaker 3: star quarterback that we thought he was going to be
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  Speaker 3: a few years ago?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a few years ago, he had a real problem
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  Speaker 2: with offensive line. And he ran around like crazy. And
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  Speaker 2: that's where we saw his highlights. You know, running the
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  Speaker 2: ball on scramble and then throwing on the scramble. And
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  Speaker 2: we thought, hey, give him an offensive line. He'll be great, right? Well,
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  Speaker 2: by now, the offensive line has been addressed. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a good offensive line. Yeah. Yeah, they're not as utterly
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  Speaker 2: unfortunate as they have been in the past. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and he's not he's not seeming to take the next step.
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  Speaker 2: He still seems to force things. And that's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: He still has a lot of really great highlights. But
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  Speaker 2: then he threw a couple of picks, costly picks against
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi State. And it's the consistency that matters. Now, you
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  Speaker 2: can point that same finger at Archmanic. This is not
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  Speaker 2: to say that Lenora Sellers is a bad player, but
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  Speaker 2: consistency has been his bugaboo, just like it has been
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  Speaker 2: for Arch. And, you know, if he's inconsistent against Alabama
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  Speaker 2: and turns it over against them, things will get out
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  Speaker 2: of hand very, very quickly. But you would think that
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  Speaker 2: after all the time he spent behind a leaky offensive line,
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  Speaker 2: that he would know how to play the position in
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  Speaker 2: that situation better than he's been showing so far this year.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor, I want to ask you about this SEC slate
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  Speaker 1: of games. It really is phenomenal. You start with Texas, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Alabama, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Georgia. You've got
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss, Florida. That might be the best. You've got LSU,
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  Speaker 1: Texas A & M. Both teams need that game. Which
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  Speaker 1: one of all this SEC slate do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: by Saturday night we'll be saying– That was the best
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  Speaker 1: one of them all. What game do you think is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the best of the group?
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  Speaker 2: I like Ole Miss at Florida. And, you know, Florida's
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  Speaker 2: coach said something to the effect of when he found
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  Speaker 2: out that they were favored by about a field goal, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's some good drugs out there. And I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was pretty hilarious. You know, I don't want to quote
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  Speaker 2: it exactly there. It was just really funny. The thing is, though,
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  Speaker 2: this is another one of those emotional resilience weeks because
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  Speaker 2: of all the emotion and physical pull that– Ole Miss
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  Speaker 2: put in the beating LSU and the lead-up to LSU.
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  Speaker 2: But if there's any team in the nation that's accustomed
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  Speaker 2: to this, it's Ole Miss, right? I mean, they've got
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  Speaker 2: their quarterback back, the leader of their team is back.
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  Speaker 2: And from last year, when Lane Kiffin left at the
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  Speaker 2: end of November for LSU, they went on to win
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  Speaker 2: a couple of playoff games, and they ended up 18
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  Speaker 2: seconds away against Miami from going to the national championship game.
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  Speaker 2: Miami scored the game-winning touchdown. from behind just in the
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  Speaker 2: last few seconds of the game. And so that emotional rollercoaster,
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss handled brilliantly, right? And then, so now the
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  Speaker 2: question is, how do they handle this week of practice?
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  Speaker 2: Going to Florida, I can see why the Florida team
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  Speaker 2: has the– They're hedging Las Vegas, right? They're favored. That's
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  Speaker 2: an incredibly physical game that Ole Miss played against LSU.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't remember a more brutally physical game,
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  Speaker 2: especially in the first half ever. And so that'll take
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  Speaker 2: a toll. Juwan Lacey there running back is banged up
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  Speaker 2: for Ole Miss. And their defense, for as well as
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  Speaker 2: a play, especially in stifling the LSU comeback in the
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  Speaker 2: second half, They still rank near the bottom of the
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  Speaker 2: SEC in running defense and near the bottom of college
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  Speaker 2: football in running defense. And Florida, you know, we thought
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  Speaker 2: they were a really good running team with Jaden Vaughn,
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  Speaker 2: you know, carrying the ball after they smoked, what, FAU
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  Speaker 2: and Campbell, something like that. But then they went to
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  Speaker 2: Auburn and did the same thing. So that basically legitimized
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  Speaker 2: what we thought about them. Great running attack against a
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  Speaker 2: suspect Ole Miss rush defense that is now fully beat up.
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  Speaker 2: So that game, to me, with the best quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the nation, Trinidad Chambliss, is going to be a really
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  Speaker 2: interesting matchup.
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  Speaker 1: I think you picked the best one. I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to watch that game and see how does Ole Miss
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  Speaker 1: bounce back emotionally. Do they still have it? And that
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  Speaker 1: Gator offense is fun, man. That's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: good one. It's also fun to watch Trevor Maddich in
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  Speaker 1: the ESPN studios on College Football Saturdays, including a great
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  Speaker 1: way to do your late night on Saturday or your
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. Record it like I do. Watch the college
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  Speaker 1: football final, guys, on Sunday morning. You can do it
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  Speaker 1: that way. Trevor, we always appreciate you, man. Thanks so much.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you guys.