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Cesar Chavez: Labor Legend or Troubling Secrets? · D-constructing Topics

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on target with the game plan and we got a good one in regards to something that's
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it's gonna hit me being that i am a labor leader for over two decades now and
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you know i want to hear i want to talk about the story of says i challenged
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that yes I'm a little late behind.
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I think I've done her a little bit of everything.
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And it's just an interesting topic for those out there who might not be aware
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of Cesar Chavez, the founder of the Farmers Union a long time ago,
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or the co-founder, right?
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With Dolores Huerta and a couple of other people there. I believe that was Gilbert
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Padilla was there, if I'm not mistaken.
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If I'm not mistaken, I think that he's... I mean, there's so much labor leaders in regards to the...
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Every courtship workers union become the farmers workers for those out there
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that love the strawberries, blueberries, whatever areas.
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They came to a time whether you was doing some of that labor work in,
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I can say, Arizona, California, even in New York State here.
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Somewhere where we do the apples and the grapes and all that.
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Keep in mind is that those are wonderful people that do that labor work.
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And when it comes to the labor movement, we just say to ourselves,
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is that give those workers a fair wage and some time off, medical benefits, whatever it is.
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We'll talk about it in regards to Cesar Chavez.
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But the story of Cesar Chavez is the allegations of certain abuse in regards
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to some of the women that participated in the movement,
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especially in this case, Dolores Huerta,
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who just there was some type of investigation in the New York Times.
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So, hey, listen, let's keep it I'm going to just
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Try to give guys Or my people's point of view here And since you're enjoying
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my voice And you're going to be like,
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damn, I wonder what David Got to say, it's a little controversial topic In a
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sense, and I will tell you Why there's a little controversy In regards to What's
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happening or what happened.
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And I want to say For those people out there who have been Victim of abuse,
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once again It's never a too late thing Do reach out If it's recent Do reach
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So let's get it. Let's make it happen. And always you can catch me and other
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independent creators in T-Juice TV So we're making it happen So here I am with
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the sets that's having me as a labor leader And pro-labor,
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pro-worker,
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union type of dude To hear this story Because I don't want people to be like
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Oh, is this what happens in the labor movement In these union shops and so on
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and so forth Look, abuse happens everywhere.
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And I want to say, in regards to Dolores Huerta, who is the person that basically
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came out and said, hey, listen, Cesar Chavez over here, you know, he was a hero to many.
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And for some people out there that, again, let me just put this in a little summary.
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Cesar Chavez was a big activist, labor, you know, political.
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He was a big activist. He made that push for the farmers, workers in the 50s,
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60s, you know, and so on to have some good wages.
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Again, people don't understand how important for those people out there that
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in the agriculture or even blue collar worker who do trades, hands on construction.
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Flores, whatever it is that you out there in the field and in certain conditions.
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The sad thing is that there's a lot of people in this country,
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United States of America, who are not given fair wages.
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And once again, you sacrifice your body You sacrifice your soul You sacrifice
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your time to make sure In the case of Seth's service That you get some good
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strawberries in your plate For those people out there who enjoy the strawberry Again,
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we're talking about even back then The fact that these individuals just asking
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for a fair wage And so on and so forth So.
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You know, Cesar Chavez, Dolores Huertas, and some of those folks out there.
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Farmers, they decided, hey, we want fair wages.
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And Cesar Chavez, and I'll give you an example, me coming to the United States,
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he was one of the first figures that I've heard from stories,
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especially if you are in the labor movement, and you already know.
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So me being born in the labor movement or at least some type of movement and
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growing up in the labor movement with other unions, then you already know it's my thing.
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So a lot of this language in regards to what it is that Cesar Chavez and the
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farmer's worker did, like, listen, that's a language that I can relate. That's lingo to me.
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And I'm here and I'm one to say, hey, listen, I'm one to say I'm more pro-worker
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than pro-union. And in the sense that I'm one to say that if you have a company
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who can afford, let's say, employees, depending on what you do.
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But if you do have a certain amount of employees, it would be common sense that
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happy employees will give you a better product and better production.
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I think that would be the common sense. And numbers and stats have shown that that's the case.
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But if you're underpaid people and overwork people just because you want to
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get more money in your pocket, then hey, listen, that's sadly,
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that's how that works in many cases.
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But when it comes to these individuals, we got people who are fighting for the
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rights of you to make sure that you have medical benefits, good wages.
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Pension and other things.
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So then the story happened. Cesar Chavez was born in 1928, 27, and he passed away.
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He passed away relatively young, mid-60s, in the early 90s, I believe 1992, 1993.
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I'm sorry. I'm just on top of my head because when he died, it was like a big thing.
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And you got monuments all over the place. As a matter of fact,
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there's curriculums about him.
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So just to give an idea, he is a labor leader And well-known labor leader, right?
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You got the Jimmy Hoffers Was a labor leader, in a sense, president of the Teamsters
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But, you know, talking about Jimmy Hoffer and Sasha Chavez It's like,
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two different things But I can see that non-corruption,
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Sadly, takes a different face.
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Dolores Huerta, when she came out talking about the abuse and she was assaulted
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by Secha Chavez, and I want to say that I side with those victims,
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doesn't matter whether it's 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. Keep in mind is this.
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People have often, and I've seen people, and look, literally,
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people are going to wonder why.
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Why all these years she came out and said this? And I say, I mean,
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why not? I mean, it's better now than to say never, right?
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You've got to also understand that time flies. And you might say 30 years,
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but 30 years, especially if you're a victim or of certain circumstances,
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30 years will feel a little bit like a blink of an eye.
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And for this individual, my understanding is that the New York Times had an article.
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And then the reporter had a five-year investigation into regards to not just
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Dolores Huerta, but there was others in which he have assaulted and might have
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done other crazy things,
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especially with those who were underage.
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So, again, it's just baffling to say the least, and it does take away what's
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going on behind that picture,
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especially someone who's a prominent labor figure and someone who works for
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the better of the life of others.
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But I'm always one to say, and this applies to the political philosophy in this
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country, and this country, you know, for the most part, it's running.
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I'm going to say for the most part, I mean, 99.9% of people out there in Congress,
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they're affiliated with the Republican and Democrat Party. There's always kind
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of that thing, you know, back and forth.
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But it's always the same talking point. And I want to say, oh,
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you know, we're fighting for our democracy.
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But at the same time, what we're fighting for here, quote unquote,
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the democracy and rights, I mean, whatever it is, this same country,
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this same country, the powers that be is taken away from another country.
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Someone is getting killed.
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And it goes back to what I say in regards to these movements.
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And in regards to anything that's good Even in,
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you know, again If you look at the Roman Catholic priest situation Here in the
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United States, the same I want people to sometimes say to yourself,
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When there's something good Or we cherish it, we should just say yes Absolutely,
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But I'm always in the mind that someone else Is going to pay the price And sadly
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these victims And these young ladies at that time Were paying the price Because,
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remember, you're a prominent labor figure, but you also have power.
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And with power, that means that sadly everybody's going to say yes, yes, yes to you.
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And if they don't say yes, then you're going to impose that kind of thing where, hey, you're a man.
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You're going to impose that to women, especially those who are vulnerable.
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And there's those who question, like, okay, Dolores, here's the other issue in regards to this.
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If you definitely was abused, again, these are allegations. They have not been
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proven in criminal court or anything to that effect.
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Indeed, if these are allegations, then the understanding is that you was a victim,
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and your silence allowed that other people became victims as well.
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And that has happened. And I think that her point is that she did not want to
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destroy the movement because, sadly, there's a lot of labor movement that get
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co-opted and get destroyed.
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And I agree in terms of that, like, you know, that part there in regards to
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not wanting to destroy the movement.
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But again, the movement would have kept on, even if she went out and talked about it.
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The movement would have kind of came out.
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I mean, you know, it would still be a thing because you had other leaders.
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So it's how it just happened to be the figure or the most vocal,
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but you had other leaders.
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So if others, victims, have they, you know, got sacrificed by this movement, it kind of question.
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Was that really the story behind that in regards to not wanting to destroy the movement?
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And again, I know that there's a lot of victims out there that become victims
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of these assaults, physical assaults. And sadly, they do.
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It boggles their mind. It kind of changed their perception. They don't think
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right. And it could take a long time for one to change.
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But I'm one, again, I'm one with the letters when it comes to this situation.
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Now, I like to say, look, listen, in life, for the most part,
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there's always two sides of the story, right?
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Here's a little interesting caveat here that I did notice that 10 years ago,
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there was a conservative think tank group, whatever, Prager University, right?
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Who were used in Cesar Chavez, because now here's the kind of sprinkling the
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icing, kind of like, oh, wait, you know, grab your popcorn. Shit is getting interesting.
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It's that Cesar Chavez was anti-illegal immigrant because in this country,
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there are companies that use illegal immigrants to undermine union. I agree.
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For a fact, that's always been a thing. sadly
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again and I'm not here to put illegal immigrants down
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it's just a system here when it comes to
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this is why I sometimes it baffle my mind when you got these uh especially those
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in the conservative right republican who are fighting against illegal immigration
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and so on and so forth in reality sometimes I say they're not because some of
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these republicans that are in Texas, Alabama,
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who own factories, business,
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they use illegal immigrants to bust down unions where they're not too fond of.
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And the reason is that there's been a history of unions who,
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for the most part, have backed up the Democratic Party.
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So my thing that PragerU was using that as to say, look, even your boy Cesar
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Chavez, who actually was an American, an American migrant.
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Oh, I take it back. He was American. He was born here.
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And my understanding is that there's interviews where he had issues with Mexico,
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the Mexican government. It's like, you guys know what you're doing.
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You guys are like doing that thing. I got the illegal immigrants go, go.
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But not really doing anything to keep them in your country.
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And then again, it's been situation here in New York City when it comes to the construction.
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Then I've seen a lot of companies and I've heard and I spoke where they use illegal immigrants.
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And again, and I'm not trying to use that term as going after them,
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but they use illegal immigrants to undermine labor unions. That's in the construction field.
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They just straight up keep those as, that's always been a thing.
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But that doesn't mean that, hey, listen, the guy, whatever. So, probably you use this.
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So now my thing is this, you're trying to expose the person,
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but you're trying to use him at the same time.
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And then there has been a couple of experts saying, kind of saying,
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Well, even your boy, again, Cesar Chavez, he was against illegal immigrants
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coming through the border.
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And it begs the question, if Prager U really did an expose and start investigating
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that perhaps Dolores went down, there was allegations.
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The fact that these allegations have kind of been something that people have
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been whispering for years.
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If PragerU, this kind of right-wing conservative group If they do their thing
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and the Lord is right That goes out there and has an interview with PragerU Would we be having,
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would we And I say we, the media and everybody Would we be having this conversation?
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I'm going to go on a limb then, perhaps not Maybe down the line,
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yes But not the way it came out like with the New York Times Think about it,
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New York Times I tend to question the New York Times because the New York Times
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is that newspaper who has a history of popping wars.
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When they were not true, hey, weapons of mass destruction, I see you.
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So now you are this group or this entity that's now exposing Chavez as,
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you know, whatever he did.
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Then one question is, is that a political move? Does people,
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because they, you know, once again, PragerU or people in the right,
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even Donald Trump is going to use Chavez as like, oh, look, he even said that
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the reason why illegal immigrants is not a good thing.
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So now what you do is that you want to kind of Question and now You can't say
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nothing about Chavez Because now nobody can say anything now Right?
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Because of the Allegations.
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Again I want people to understand We're not trying to undermine The allegations
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here with Dolores Walter or any of the victims,
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At all Which is my observation That 10 years ago Prager U did an expert say.
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And they could have gone to that rabbit hole. Who knows if they did gone to
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that rabbit hole before New York Times and Dolores didn't want to talk to them.
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Now, keep in mind, it's this. She's in her 90s.
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Ten years ago, she was in her 80s.
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Sometimes I like to think that perhaps with time, there's a little difference
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there in regards to like your age.
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Because now you in that plateau that let me just talk.
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Now, someone said that sometimes in life, people are not ready to talk.
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It could take them forever. which is true but i'm
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definitely going to uh kind of uh find out
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trying to get into that investigation thing of
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whether prager you try to reach out to the lord is what this in regards to the
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allegations 10 years ago again i like to think and i like to say and sadly that's
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when you are a victim depending on who it is then you'll be silenced and and
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you know i made my obvious one with Donald Trump.
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I made the obvious one with Joe Biden, who has a history of accusations and,
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assaults. Bill Clinton as well.
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But again, who gets the limelight versus who? And that's what breaks my heart
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in regards to this situation or any situations of people in the victim.
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They want to believe in women, but if they want to believe in women, it all depends.
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If the woman that came out in regards to the allegation of Joe Biden and there
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was silence by the New York Times, they would be in question.
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It's like, so I don't get a New York Times.
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So you question these women that you end up me too.
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But then you don't question anybody else, depending on who it is.
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So think about that one, everybody, because I'm one to say we have to hear the
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stories of victim no matter who it is that did it, whether it's people in the Roman Catholic Church,
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whether it's people in the gymnastic years ago with the gymnastic females,
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whether it's here in the labor movement, whether it's in anywhere we need to hear these victims.
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Whether it's the current president, Donald J.
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Trump, assaulting a woman to Joe Biden to, you know, Bill Clinton and so on.
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Like, why is it that people are more in tune to one does and then the other
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one, he gets a pass or they get a pass.
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So again, is it really believe all women or just selectively believe in women?
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But again, we have to support each other. Once again, if you're a victim of
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any assault, please reach out,
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reach out for help and we're here we got each other you already
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