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The NBA Is Trying To Fix Tanking… · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. It's finally happening. The NBA. Adam Silver
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Speaker 1: and this committee are gonna try to put their foot
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Speaker 1: down to counter tanking again. This is the second time
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Speaker 1: you try to do this, by the way, They're gonna
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Speaker 1: try to counter tanking again. And today we're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: about all of the potential things that Sean Serana mentioned
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Speaker 1: that the committee is conversating about. And I'm be honest
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Speaker 1: with you, I am nervous and I am afraid because
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Speaker 1: no matter what they do, no matter how small, and
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Speaker 1: no matter how big of a change they do to
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Speaker 1: combat tanking, it's gonna fundamentally shift the way teams build.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna fundamentally shift how rookies coming to the NBA.
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Speaker 1: And that's just a scary thought because I think that
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Speaker 1: if you get it wrong, it could just shift the
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Speaker 1: NBA for what a decade or something. But I'm getting
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Speaker 1: a littlehead of myself because this tanking thing has been
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Speaker 1: a conversation for the past couple weeks. I had the
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Speaker 1: luxury at All Star weekend and talk to a bunch
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Speaker 1: of players and tanking in the All Star Game. Of
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Speaker 1: the two things I mentioned, talked about the most and
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Speaker 1: I read an article because again, this is what everybody's
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Speaker 1: talking about, that was basically saying that the first time
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Speaker 1: a team intentionally lost basketball games with the idea of
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Speaker 1: the NBA Draft in mind right to get the highest
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Speaker 1: odds possible was year Hikim Elijah Want came out of
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Speaker 1: the draft. Is also a year the Michael Jordan came
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Speaker 1: out of the draft. So that's basically telling us that
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Speaker 1: tanking to some capacity has been around the NBA for
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Speaker 1: over forty seasons, and whatever has happened this season was
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Speaker 1: enough for Adam Silver and his team to say enough,
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Speaker 1: we want to counter this, and it's crazy. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I would say traditionally I am a pro tank guy.
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Speaker 1: I think I think it is important for teams. I
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Speaker 1: can also see the other side, right there are teams
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Speaker 1: that have been perpetually tanking forever and because they can't
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Speaker 1: hit their draft picks or because they can't round the edges,
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Speaker 1: their team is just in like dismay for a long time.
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Speaker 1: But I think tanking can be important for some of
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Speaker 1: the smaller market teams that do not have the luxury
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Speaker 1: to potentially go out there and sign some guys. They
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Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of or have any idea that like,
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Speaker 1: if we are the Utah Jazz, we have all the
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Speaker 1: assets to trade for prime Lebron James. But if we do,
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Speaker 1: we could do that legally right now. But his contract
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Speaker 1: is up in two years and we know he's not
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Speaker 1: gonna stay around after that, So now where the dis eventage.
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Speaker 1: The one way we can build our team as a
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Speaker 1: super small market team is that we know that when
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Speaker 1: we draft this guy, if he is a stud, he's
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Speaker 1: on the team for seven eight years until he has
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Speaker 1: to go onto our the street to fracy. So that
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Speaker 1: gives us the time. So I'm pro tanking, But even me,
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Speaker 1: as a protank guy, can look at what has happened
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks and say damn. And
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Speaker 1: I just say, ain't a crazy NBA draft guy. But
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Speaker 1: I didn't seen that. I didn't seen some of the
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Speaker 1: bonds of film, some some Peterson film, the little amount
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Speaker 1: of minutes of your plan, some boozer, some a cuffs,
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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned earlier, this is the second time the
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Speaker 1: Adam Silver administration has tried to counteract tanking in order
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Speaker 1: to balance out the regular season. Obviously. The first time
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Speaker 1: is when they took the draft odds, the draft lottery
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Speaker 1: odds and shifted them and flattened them where the top
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Speaker 1: three teams, I'm sorry, the bottom three teams have the
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Speaker 1: same fourteen percent chance to win the lottery. And it
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Speaker 1: did kind of help a little bit. If you haven't
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Speaker 1: been around for that long, it used to be were like,
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Speaker 1: if you were the worst team in the league, you
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Speaker 1: had a one and four chance to get the first pick,
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Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy. Now that we got the
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Speaker 1: flat odds, and we see teams like the Spurs jump up,
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Speaker 1: the Hawks jump up, the Cooper Flag, and the Dallas
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Speaker 1: Mavericks jump up. That feels like more of a thing
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Speaker 1: that's happening versus like ten years ago. It wasn't guaranteed
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Speaker 1: you were gonna get that first pick, obviously, but we
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Speaker 1: didn't see that many dramatic jumps other than like, so
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Speaker 1: that's what dere grow, dere Rol's got draft to Chicago
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Speaker 1: like a one point three percent hands and then that
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Speaker 1: it was a great time. But they're gonna be shifting
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Speaker 1: it again. And like I mentioned, this is just this
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Speaker 1: is scary because over the last couple of weeks, because
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Speaker 1: it has been everybody, every podcast, every article has been
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Speaker 1: about it, I feel like I've ran into every single
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Speaker 1: possible solution, and just like every problem in the NBA
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Speaker 1: or in sports in general, there's going to be a
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Speaker 1: pro and there is going to be a con, and
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Speaker 1: we have to figure out is the con for whatever
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Speaker 1: change that we're gonna do isn't miniscule enough that it
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Speaker 1: doesn't take away from what the actual goal is. So
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Speaker 1: for all story, we can, like I said, I talk
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Speaker 1: to a lot of NBA players and here's the consensus
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Speaker 1: of what the NBA player believes about tanking, and it's
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Speaker 1: it makes the most sense in the world. I don't
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Speaker 1: like it. That's that's what they think, and it makes sense, right.
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Speaker 1: These guys are the ultra competitive dudes. In order to
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Speaker 1: make a t NBA, you know, the top zero point
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Speaker 1: zero zero one, you have to have this competitive nature
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Speaker 1: and they just don't want to lose basketball games, right,
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Speaker 1: even the taking teams that we have in today's But
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Speaker 1: today's game, you think Sharif Cooper is going out in
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Speaker 1: the game saying he wants to lose on purpose. No,
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Speaker 1: he's trying to stay in the NBA, right, So, like
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Speaker 1: the players on the court hate the idea. But on
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Speaker 1: the same side, the were threw players who I don't
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Speaker 1: even know if this is worth saying the names, were
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Speaker 1: saying they understand it, even if they never want to
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Speaker 1: be a part of it. Some of the players that
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Speaker 1: I talked to our team, or players like Jaylen Brown,
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Speaker 1: who has never been on the tanking team in his life.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever missed the postseason in his
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Speaker 1: NBA career. And I also talked to a guy like
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Speaker 1: Grant Williams who also played on a lot of those
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Speaker 1: Celtics team but over the last couple of years have
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Speaker 1: been on a maybe not tanking team. Well, yeah, the
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Speaker 1: Hornets were tanking last year. That's that it got Kakaniemble.
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Speaker 1: But he's also now shifted from a tanking team to
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Speaker 1: a team and the Charlotte Hornets that have tried to compete.
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Speaker 1: So we've seen both both opportunities in both things here.
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Speaker 1: Another guy we talked I talked to was Fred van Vliet.
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Speaker 1: Fredvan Vliet was on or signed to a Rockets team
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Speaker 1: that had just been in the lottery. Have him many
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Speaker 1: years in a row, and he got to the team
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Speaker 1: and he initially shifted it and he was saying that
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Speaker 1: he probably will now I'm thinking about it. He probably
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Speaker 1: doesn't even get the offer from the Rockets, right, but
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have signed with them if their intention was
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Speaker 1: to still look. So my question was A how do
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Speaker 1: you feel? And B if you feel bad about it,
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Speaker 1: how do we fix it? And the one thing that
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Speaker 1: came up multiple times, Jaylen Brown mentioned it and I
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Speaker 1: don't remember who the second player was. It was a
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Speaker 1: proposal that came out years and years ago. This is
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Speaker 1: an old grant Land article. This is like Zach Lowe
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Speaker 1: in like twenty thirteen. Some of y'all aren't even born yet?
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Speaker 1: Is that coming down below? You were born yet in
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. So this is a proposal that came up again.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown mentioned this to me, and I had heard
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Speaker 1: about it before, but the fact that Jaylen Brown knew
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Speaker 1: all the details made me think that something somebody's having
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Speaker 1: these conversations. But the proposal is this. It would eliminate
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Speaker 1: the draft litter and place it with a system in
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Speaker 1: which each of the thirty teams were picking a specific
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Speaker 1: first round slot once and exactly once every thirty years.
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Speaker 1: Very very simple. This year, if you're the Toronto Raptors,
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Speaker 1: you might have the first overall pick, and the next
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Speaker 1: time you have the first overall pick, it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: thirty years down the line. Right. Next year, you might
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Speaker 1: have picked seven, or you might have picked nine, but
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pick an all thirty the spots, So I
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Speaker 1: guess thirty two. Once we get this expansion going all
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Speaker 1: thirty to thirty two spots, and then once we reset,
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Speaker 1: then you get another chance. Right. The idea is to decentivize,
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Speaker 1: is that the word I'm looking for losing. We're teams there.
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Speaker 1: They don't have an incentive at all to bild a
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Speaker 1: bad team. Right, You're gonna have bad teams in an evening.
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Speaker 1: You always gonna have bad teams in NBA. But this
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Speaker 1: is like saying, nah, the way you move in the
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Speaker 1: draft is I guess, trading for draft picks. That's the
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Speaker 1: only way you can really jump up in the draft,
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Speaker 1: if you will. Teams would know which with one certainty
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Speaker 1: in which draft slot they will pick every year up
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Speaker 1: to thirty years out. So I can say, like, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: we watch it right now, but in twenty forty two,
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Speaker 1: the Bulls gonna have that first pick and I'm watching
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Speaker 1: a film. Oh my god, that guy's probably not even
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Speaker 1: born yet. The practice of protecting picks, oh, would disappear.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, knew that. I knew that anyway.
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Speaker 1: That that was one of the things that Jaylen Brown
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Speaker 1: brought to attention to me, And again I heard it
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Speaker 1: a few different times, but the fact that Jaylen Brown
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Speaker 1: broke it down so fluidly made me think that this
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Speaker 1: is a conversation that they had had at least a
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Speaker 1: little bit. And when I say, hey, I don't mean
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Speaker 1: Adam Silver, I mean like Jalen Brown and his team,
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Speaker 1: or people in the locker room, whatever it may be.
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Speaker 1: And I think again, these are I'm gonna give you
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Speaker 1: my true, honest opinions about every single potential solution. I
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Speaker 1: think that it is. It does a good job of
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Speaker 1: counteracting tanking, which I guess is the overall goal. Right,
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Speaker 1: you don't want teams to take, but there are some
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Speaker 1: unforeseen or I guess foreseen consequences with that. If I
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Speaker 1: am a team of a fan base where there's not
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Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel, I'm literally a
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Speaker 1: fan of a team that's not a lot of light
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Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. The one thing that
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Speaker 1: we have, even if it's fictional, even if it is false,
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Speaker 1: hope is the hope that maybe we hit the draft
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Speaker 1: and Darren Peterson plays for my favorite team. Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine if your team is poorly ran, you have a
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Speaker 1: terrible owner, and your first overall pick or your next
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Speaker 1: time you're in the top ten pick is not for
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Speaker 1: nine years. What am I like? I don't trust the
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Speaker 1: people in charge to sign or trade for people to
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Speaker 1: help us now, so I gotta wait nine years for
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Speaker 1: them to maybe hit the draft pick. So that is
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Speaker 1: the one thing, the one thing every tanking team in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six has in the back pocket is that saying, man,
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Speaker 1: draft lottery comes around, we'll be all right. Yeah we
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Speaker 1: lost him in the row, but draft lottery, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be all right. Yeah we won a playoff series in
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Speaker 1: thirty years, but man, we might be all right because
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Speaker 1: Darren Peterson and aj Debosa and Cam Booze are gonna
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Speaker 1: come out of the draft. So that was the like,
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Speaker 1: if you do that, will you take away that hope?
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Speaker 1: And it puts like it might be don looking at
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Speaker 1: I feel like there are some general managers that have
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Speaker 1: hit on draft picks or that have built sot's just
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Speaker 1: say solid things. But that did it out of maybe
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Speaker 1: the luck is not the right word, the right place,
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Speaker 1: right time, you feel me. So some people just are
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Speaker 1: just not good at that job. So that was just
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Speaker 1: the one that came up a few different times. If
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Speaker 1: I go back to the Shams tweet, that is not
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Speaker 1: one that it seems like the committee themselves are talking about.
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Speaker 1: So if you are anti that, don't you worry, don't
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Speaker 1: you worry. Don't seem like that is even really a possibility.
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Speaker 1: But Shams did put together a bunch of different options,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna break these down one by one, talking
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Speaker 1: about the ones I like or the ones that I
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Speaker 1: don't like. And as always on this channel, it is
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Speaker 1: a fluent conversation. I am just a guy with an opinion,
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Speaker 1: just like you. Multiple sources with knowledge of Thursday's GA
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Speaker 1: meeting and as well as late January Competition Committee Committee
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Speaker 1: meeting so ESPN that the following contexts have been discussed.
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Speaker 1: Tough curb tanking. I saw some people interpret this as
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Speaker 1: like these things are about to happen, and it seems like,
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Speaker 1: at least my interpretation of it, it's just the people
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Speaker 1: were at the table and these were some things that
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Speaker 1: came up. The solution might not even be on this
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Speaker 1: list already. They're still actively talking through it, but let's
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Speaker 1: talk about it. The first one is at first round,
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Speaker 1: picks can be protected only top four or fourteen plus.
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Speaker 1: This personally, I don't see a lot of downside to
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Speaker 1: this one. I like this as an idea. Adam Silver,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it changes tanking completely, but it does
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Speaker 1: change the situation. Like the Utah Jazz who made a
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Speaker 1: trade for a good player in Jeron Jux Junior and
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Speaker 1: have a few good players on the roster, but their
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Speaker 1: pick is top eight protected and they're doing everything in
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Speaker 1: the power to retain that pick. And this one you
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Speaker 1: get like a top four protected pick, which means that
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Speaker 1: either you jump up or you stay in that spot,
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Speaker 1: or you protect it in the lottery. All of the
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Speaker 1: other ones, like we've had picks get traded this year
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Speaker 1: where it's like, if it's one through two, or go
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Speaker 1: to this team. If it's three through eight, to go
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Speaker 1: to this team, if it's nine through thirteen, to go ahead.
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Speaker 1: You're like, bro, how do we keep who is keeping
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Speaker 1: track of all of this? So this simplifies a little
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Speaker 1: bit and say, hey, you trade them unprotected pick a
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Speaker 1: top four pick or lottery protected pick. Forget about the
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Speaker 1: top nine protections, forget about loosening though protections here so
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Speaker 1: you can get a pick down the line. I am
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Speaker 1: all in for this one, honestly. You can let me know,
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Speaker 1: But I personally don't see a ton of downside to
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Speaker 1: this one. This first one. I also don't think it
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Speaker 1: completely counter rides taking. It's very specific to what the
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Speaker 1: Utah Jazz are doing right now. You feel me, But
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Speaker 1: that's it. Lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline or
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Speaker 1: a later date. It's a very interesting one. The pro
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Speaker 1: is that post that deadline or whatever that day ends
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Speaker 1: up being, teams will just be incentivized to play their
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Speaker 1: best players, even if their best players still aren't that
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Speaker 1: good of a player, right like some of these younger
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Speaker 1: players right now. Let's I'm gonna use the Washington Wizards
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Speaker 1: for an example, a younger team right now, and they
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Speaker 1: made some acquisitions at the deadline, and they just want
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Speaker 1: one more swing at this year's lottery. Some of the
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Speaker 1: games that they've missed or lost in recent weeks or so,
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Speaker 1: they were just telling really good or solid to good
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Speaker 1: young players. It's not still suit up today. I don't
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Speaker 1: think you got nothing too crazy. But if you're saying
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Speaker 1: that the odds freeze on I don't know, the trade
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Speaker 1: deadline February fourth, then now Alex sar can really just
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Speaker 1: play the last twenty games of the season. And I
13:33
Speaker 1: think that the one of the positives is one of
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Speaker 1: the things I hate is when you do have that
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Speaker 1: tanking team that is going out there and I don't mind.
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Speaker 1: How do I say this, I don't necessarily mind when
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Speaker 1: a really good veteran has to set out for the
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Speaker 1: power of the tank, But when you have a guy
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Speaker 1: like Alex Sar who is in year two when every
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Speaker 1: rep matters, especially as he's as sending, I don't like
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Speaker 1: the idea of shutting him down or him not playing
13:57
Speaker 1: back to backs just because we want to lose his game.
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Speaker 1: And in this case, you still get those reps for
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Speaker 1: Alex sar and Trey Johnson's and so on and so
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Speaker 1: forth for the world. I also think that this just
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Speaker 1: changes when the tanking happens. If you tell me that
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Speaker 1: the trade dead line is where the lottery odds shift,
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Speaker 1: guess what my team is starting off on twenty You
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're gonna We're gonna take from
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Speaker 1: the very beginning instead of at the end, which is
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Speaker 1: just the same. It's the same thing. It's it won't
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Speaker 1: I don't think it changes things too much. I think
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Speaker 1: teams are just going would just be smarter and say that, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna be bad for the first month. Actually, dang,
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Speaker 1: I'll start player. He had a little he had a
14:31
Speaker 1: little knee procedure a week before trading camp. He'll be
14:34
Speaker 1: back around the trade that line. I feel like that's
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Speaker 1: the type of a neeglant we will get. So I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't love this. I think it has a
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Speaker 1: few pros but mostly cons. The next one no longer
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Speaker 1: allowing the team to pick tough for consecutive years and
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Speaker 1: or after consecutive bottom three finishes. Now, this is one
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Speaker 1: of the most extremes when we will see because this
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Speaker 1: has happened recently. Right the Spurs at women Yama, they
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Speaker 1: have Dylan Harper, they have Safine Castle. This is a
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Speaker 1: team that is at one of the best teams in
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Speaker 1: the league, that benefited from being a top four in
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Speaker 1: the lottery or I'm sorry, top four in the draft,
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Speaker 1: and they hit on these picks. Right, So the way
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Speaker 1: they are built, their whole philosophy is it still rcbuford over.
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Speaker 1: Their whole philosophy goes out of the door. You can't
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Speaker 1: do that anymore. Right, the Calves of Old had with
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Speaker 1: three top first overall picks in four years. They didn't
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Speaker 1: do anything with it other than trade one of those
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Speaker 1: picks in order to get Lebron James and stuff. But
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Speaker 1: they on guests to get Kevin Love to make sure
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Speaker 1: Lebron James Happy. I don't I think what this doesn't
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Speaker 1: account for and it's gonna be impossible for and again
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Speaker 1: and for anything to account for all of the thoughts.
15:38
Speaker 1: But this doesn't account for and I don't mean to
15:40
Speaker 1: throw those shots here, but this doesn't account for bad
15:43
Speaker 1: draft classes. You try to tell me the Atlanta Hawks
15:46
Speaker 1: couldn't pick top four this year because they have Zachary Reischa.
15:49
Speaker 1: I say, last year, he's not a traditional first overall pick,
15:54
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So that could pigeonhole a
15:57
Speaker 1: team that happened to get the first pick or top
15:59
Speaker 1: four pick in a really bad draft class. Now, I
16:02
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with like it being four consecutive years,
16:07
Speaker 1: but if you try to make it just literally two
16:09
Speaker 1: years in a row, that was gonna blow my mind
16:11
Speaker 1: because I think that that that becomes too extreme, and
16:13
Speaker 1: it also says or after consecutive bottom three finishes, I
16:17
Speaker 1: think we might have might be cooking something there. I
16:19
Speaker 1: don't like the idea of two, but like, we get
16:21
Speaker 1: to three to four years of a team being at
16:23
Speaker 1: the bottom of the standings, then we should put our
16:26
Speaker 1: foot in We should put our foot in there and say, hey, man,
16:28
Speaker 1: you can't do this. Go talk to the owners. You
16:31
Speaker 1: can't do this, honestly what you're trying to do, But
16:33
Speaker 1: we have to put a competent roster on the court. Eventually,
16:35
Speaker 1: we cannot be year four of going for lottery odds,
16:39
Speaker 1: you know, so pros and cons. It's just I'm trying
16:43
Speaker 1: to think of other teams that have this. Like I
16:45
Speaker 1: can't even say the Pistons because they kept they got
16:47
Speaker 1: K number one, but they failed in the j Navy Draft.
16:50
Speaker 1: They failed in the Star Thompson's Draft, so they didn't
16:52
Speaker 1: even they didn't even end up having a top four
16:54
Speaker 1: pick even though they were top four. Ass teams can't
16:58
Speaker 1: pick top four the year after making the conference finals.
17:03
Speaker 1: Damn Indiana, Like, who, this is such a specific this
17:08
Speaker 1: is such a specific thing. They're like, sure you can,
17:12
Speaker 1: you can do it, but I don't know, I don't
17:16
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think it changes anything.
17:18
Speaker 1: Honestly speaking, I don't think it changes anything. But this
17:23
Speaker 1: is very specific to like they're thinking about somebody, and
17:26
Speaker 1: I mean the only the most recent answer, of course,
17:28
Speaker 1: is the Indiana Pacers. But like, the Pacers never have
17:31
Speaker 1: had a top like they just don't have topics and
17:33
Speaker 1: even though yeah, they just came up for finals appearance, yea, yeah, yeah,
17:36
Speaker 1: I'm okay with them having a top pick. Personally, I
17:39
Speaker 1: think it'na be cool. Lottery odds allocated based on a
17:43
Speaker 1: two year record. Now, this is basically very similar to
17:47
Speaker 1: the w NBA. So here's what it was for the
17:49
Speaker 1: w last year. The year that the Dallas Wings got
17:52
Speaker 1: a Page Beckers, So they combined two years, two years
17:56
Speaker 1: of ass to get on Page Beckers. They were nineteen
18:00
Speaker 1: and sixty five. And again, it's a small league in comparison,
18:04
Speaker 1: smaller league. I can't act up be up here and
18:06
Speaker 1: act like I'm a expert in w NBA, right, I know,
18:09
Speaker 1: I know players and some stuff, but I'm not an expert.
18:12
Speaker 1: But the one thing I could see as a positive
18:15
Speaker 1: is that it would be impossible for a team to
18:17
Speaker 1: flip the switch, you know how like sometimes a season
18:20
Speaker 1: is just not going well enough for a team and
18:21
Speaker 1: then say, okay, everybody shutted down, Okay, retraining everybody in
18:24
Speaker 1: order to put together bad team and hope to resalvage
18:26
Speaker 1: some of the season by being bad. But if you're
18:29
Speaker 1: combining the two, like a team like the Indiana Pacers.
18:32
Speaker 1: They don't benefit from this because they were just a
18:33
Speaker 1: playoff team last season, and even though they're bad this year,
18:36
Speaker 1: they don't get a top four odds because last year
18:39
Speaker 1: they were just in the conference finals. I just asked
18:41
Speaker 1: one of my boys, who is into the WNBA, asking
18:44
Speaker 1: like as a blatant tank and the thing. He said no,
18:47
Speaker 1: because of this, like because of this they started this
18:49
Speaker 1: And again this is him as a source. So Riot,
18:53
Speaker 1: if you're wrong, somebody gon call you on the comments.
18:55
Speaker 1: But they implemented this two year thing to stop teams
18:58
Speaker 1: to live from literally tanking. So I don't know, it
19:02
Speaker 1: could be It could be interesting because let me look
19:03
Speaker 1: at like the last year saying this, what would this
19:06
Speaker 1: look like? Did you know what I'm thinking in my head?
19:07
Speaker 1: And this could be wrong. Bad team's usually bad for
19:09
Speaker 1: a long time. So like the like the Wizards would
19:12
Speaker 1: still have a really good draft lottery odds, the same
19:15
Speaker 1: thing with the Nets, but like the Hornets are up now,
19:18
Speaker 1: the seventy six ers are back being up, the Raptors
19:20
Speaker 1: are up now, the Bulls are still always where the
19:22
Speaker 1: Bulls are, and ow West like the Jazz will still
19:25
Speaker 1: be up. The Pelicans don't on their own pick this year,
19:27
Speaker 1: but they would be up in theory. This is pretty interesting, man.
19:32
Speaker 1: So realistically there's only like the bottom four teams would
19:37
Speaker 1: be the Wizards, the Nets, the Jazz, and then the Pelicans.
19:45
Speaker 1: But the Apelicans don't own their pick this year. Every
19:48
Speaker 1: other team has said some shift from last season, which
19:50
Speaker 1: is pretty pretty interesting. Man. I don't know, am I
19:53
Speaker 1: talking myself into a two year lottery. It would also
19:56
Speaker 1: suck for the teams that break it down. So like
19:59
Speaker 1: in theory, the Bulls made their trades at the deadline, kids,
20:02
Speaker 1: they made the trades of the deadline to try to
20:04
Speaker 1: maximize their lottery odds for this season, but we would
20:07
Speaker 1: have to wait an additional year after this in order
20:10
Speaker 1: to get like a really good draft or really good
20:12
Speaker 1: draft odds. So it's an interesting one. Hey, this is
20:15
Speaker 1: the one I'm scared of. The Bolls lottery extended to
20:18
Speaker 1: include all playing teams. Bro, the Bulls and our Tunies.
20:23
Speaker 1: County Show was got so happy reading a support Adam Bro,
20:27
Speaker 1: please please don't incorporate this one. I just know our
20:31
Speaker 1: team turn show is like fuck yeah. As soon as
20:33
Speaker 1: he started report, we could be forty one and forty
20:35
Speaker 1: one and still being the lottery best of both worlds.
20:37
Speaker 1: It's not the best of both worlds. Please don't, please,
20:40
Speaker 1: don't implement this their idea, because right now we're seeing
20:43
Speaker 1: teams actively try to get away from the playing right.
20:46
Speaker 1: The Bulls are trying to get out and the Hornets
20:48
Speaker 1: are getting in there. Every team from eleven to fifteen
20:51
Speaker 1: out West are actively trying, not trying to win. So
20:53
Speaker 1: like the Clippers, regardless of how they look the second
20:55
Speaker 1: part of the season, they're gonna be at least a
20:57
Speaker 1: playing team. So there's just saying like this inane advisors
21:00
Speaker 1: teams to still be competitive towards the end of the
21:02
Speaker 1: season and not have to tank the last couple weeks
21:05
Speaker 1: to get out of the plan. But you could still
21:06
Speaker 1: they're saying all playing teams, so you could in theory
21:10
Speaker 1: that Miami Heat team. So in theory that Miami Heat
21:14
Speaker 1: team that went on to the finals to lose to
21:16
Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets would have been in the finals but
21:19
Speaker 1: also had draft lottery odds. That's kind of funny, though
21:23
Speaker 1: that's a rare occurrence, but that's that's kind of funny.
21:25
Speaker 1: Our last one that they are pitching potentially is flatten
21:28
Speaker 1: odds for all the lottery teams. And I do think
21:32
Speaker 1: this is of course gonna have some again unintended consequences.
21:35
Speaker 1: This is the one that if you again, if your
21:38
Speaker 1: sole goal, if your sole goal is to counteract tanking,
21:42
Speaker 1: this is how you do it. The only bit of
21:44
Speaker 1: tanking that you will see is again those playing teams
21:48
Speaker 1: that are trying to just have two percent of the pot.
21:50
Speaker 1: But you won't see teams like the Wizards be bad
21:53
Speaker 1: on purpose or they're gonna be bad on purpose, but
21:55
Speaker 1: not aggressively bad, because at the end of the day,
21:57
Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, you're never going to get it
22:00
Speaker 1: nbacs where everybody's good. It's literally impossible, you know. So
22:03
Speaker 1: there's always going to be bad teams. It's just a
22:05
Speaker 1: matter of being intentionally bad to the highest degree. This
22:08
Speaker 1: kind of counterautes accept. The problem with it is some
22:12
Speaker 1: some teams really do need a topic, simply put right,
22:17
Speaker 1: Some teams just straight up need one of the top picks.
22:20
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if your team is just so trash
22:22
Speaker 1: and you don't have any avenue to sign, you don't
22:24
Speaker 1: have any avenue to trade for somebody that's really talented,
22:27
Speaker 1: and for three years in a row, what the hell
22:30
Speaker 1: I'm getting pop up ads have sound? How did that
22:32
Speaker 1: sound come through you? You were one of the worst
22:37
Speaker 1: teams in the league, and for three years in the row.
22:40
Speaker 1: Instead of having a top ten pick, your pick is
22:42
Speaker 1: thirteen both years. That's like, pull my hair out bad. So,
22:48
Speaker 1: but I think at all of the ones that we mentioned,
22:50
Speaker 1: if the go again, if the sole go is the
22:52
Speaker 1: counteract tank Ga, the Jazz, don't shut down Jerons ex
22:55
Speaker 1: Juni even though he actually has an injury by the way,
22:57
Speaker 1: like the thing in his knee, even though it's I
22:58
Speaker 1: heard it now, it could hurt him into So Yeah,
23:00
Speaker 1: but like some of the players that are getting shut down,
23:02
Speaker 1: wouldn't get shut down on a game and the game
23:04
Speaker 1: basis because we're already bad and if this team has
23:07
Speaker 1: the same odds as we do, then there's no center
23:09
Speaker 1: for me to be two games worse than them. It
23:12
Speaker 1: would It would fundamentally change everything about the draft and
23:18
Speaker 1: everything about team building, and that again, that is a
23:21
Speaker 1: super scary part from my opinion. You let me know,
23:24
Speaker 1: this is an open conversation between us. It's an open
23:26
Speaker 1: conversation with Silver and his team. Huh, the one year
23:31
Speaker 1: my team finally decides to tank, the league is gonna
23:35
Speaker 1: be like f that. How unlucky am I