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Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Seven oh six Here at Vity five Kerse Talk Season
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  Speaker 1: and that the Thursday. Brian Thomas, host of the Vity
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  Speaker 1: five Karrisee Morning Show, always with a smile on his
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  Speaker 1: face when he welcomes back to the fifty five Charosee
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show, Congressman Warren Davidson. Appreciate your willingness to come
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  Speaker 1: on the show regularly, Congressman Davidson, and welcome back, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian. Really nice to talk with you.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's primary you, are they.
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  Speaker 2: Not? This year? It's very refreshing, it's encouraging. About the
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  Speaker 2: highest compliment you can get as a current office holder
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  Speaker 2: is to have people, especially within your own party, to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it would be a I don't know, fool's
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  Speaker 1: erran to to try to primary you. Obviously, you're very
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  Speaker 1: successful in your representation. People really enjoy the job that
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  Speaker 1: you've done, and it is a solid, solid Republican leaning district,
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  Speaker 1: the eighth district that you represents, or the seventh Rauther
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  Speaker 1: or eighth district, So I think it's the right thing
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  Speaker 1: to not primary you. But there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: races out there that are contested, and I've been hearing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of complaints by folks on the Republican side
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  Speaker 1: of the ledger because most of my listeners don't have
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  Speaker 1: anthing to say about the Democrats side of the ledger,
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  Speaker 1: but their party endorsing candidates ahead of the primary that
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  Speaker 1: least obviously takes the wind out of a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people's sales. But what are your thoughts, just general reacting
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  Speaker 1: to that before we get to the importance of getting
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  Speaker 1: out and voting in the primary, which is a tough
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  Speaker 1: thing to get people to do.
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I think it's interesting because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've got Moible counties. In Hamilton County, for example, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: endorse any Republican candidate in their their party doesn't endorse
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  Speaker 2: in primaries, and frankly, you know they have held the
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  Speaker 2: ground as well against Democrats. Now, I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: the cause and effect relationship. You know, there's just two facts.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the demographics in Hamilton County are shifting pretty radically,
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  Speaker 2: and once once they changed the constitution in the state
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  Speaker 2: to say the whole city of Cincinnati has to make
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  Speaker 2: up a district. It can't be split between the first
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  Speaker 2: and second. That that really has at least temporarily changed
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  Speaker 2: the representation there. If you look across the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the district, we've got divided counties in terms of Butler
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  Speaker 2: County always endorses Prebble, generally endorses dark, doesn't you know.
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  Speaker 3: So those those approaches kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of vary individuals. I rarely endorse it occasionally I do.
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  Speaker 2: I just recently enjoiced endorsed Eric Conroy. I didn't prior
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  Speaker 2: because I had, you know, a relationship with Eric Conroy
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  Speaker 2: and Steve Steve em Off and he Withdrew. Steve Withdrew
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  Speaker 2: and had good friends and good donors and network relationships
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  Speaker 2: that were supporting each of those two candidates, both good guys,
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  Speaker 2: and so I was like, you know, I'm not personally
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  Speaker 2: going to endorse, even though the Warren County Party had
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  Speaker 2: endorsed in that race for Steve. So it's a tough thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, people look rust their views. I think statewide
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  Speaker 2: that's probably been the most controversy is in statewide races
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  Speaker 2: when the party endorses and endorses early. There's that kind
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  Speaker 2: of tips the skills a lot because it is really challenging,
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  Speaker 2: you know, especially for a first time candidates. A build name, idea,
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  Speaker 2: around the state.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about it. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the thing that's a challenge of many of my listeners
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  Speaker 1: who are looking for someone new, someone who isn't really
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, perhaps overly affiliated with the establishment Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to dance around delicacy here, Congressman Davidson. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to offend anybody, but you know, there are
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  Speaker 1: some really quality candidates out there that don't have any
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  Speaker 1: prior name recognition, and I think we'd be well served
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  Speaker 1: by those that are party loyalists and those that are
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  Speaker 1: the outsiders. I'm thinking of one race in particular. I
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  Speaker 1: think people can probably try to figure out which one
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But you know, we just want a chance,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the we would like to say in the matter.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Central Committee comes out and doesn't endorsement or votes,
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  Speaker 1: and it just rubbed people the wrong way. No need
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  Speaker 1: to dwell on anymore, but the importance of getting on
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  Speaker 1: the primary. What you get like ten percent of the
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  Speaker 1: populations registered to vote actually voting in it speak to
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  Speaker 1: the importance of primary. Racist Congressman David And if there
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  Speaker 1: is one in particular that you have your sights on
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  Speaker 1: of why it might be important for the folks to
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  Speaker 1: get out and vote. Go ahead and identify it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to put you on the spot.
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  Speaker 2: Like when I ran for the first time, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Speaker Banner had resigned and so it was an open
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  Speaker 2: seat and you know, tons of people filed and you
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  Speaker 2: had kind of the full spectrum of the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 2: And I say, it's really the Republican Party is called
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  Speaker 2: a party, but the GOP should be really the GOC,
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  Speaker 2: the Grand Old Coalition. It is a huge range of
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  Speaker 2: factions within the party. You have really moderate people that
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  Speaker 2: are basically you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, capitalists and not you know, sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of similar to Democrats, and.
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  Speaker 3: Almost every position they take.
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  Speaker 2: You know, fairly libertarian folks. You have really socially conservative people.
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  Speaker 3: You have, you know, this whole range.
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  Speaker 2: Of views within the GOP, and that's where you flush
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  Speaker 2: them out. People get mad because you know, for example,
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham has to found a worry doesn't like you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different view than you know, other folks within
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  Speaker 2: the party.
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  Speaker 3: You air those kind of times in.
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  Speaker 2: The in the primaries, and people will get mad. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we don't have the right candidate. In the fall. Well, look,
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  Speaker 2: the one thing for sure, you know, there might be
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  Speaker 2: a range of views within the Grandel coalition here, but
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat Party is now divided between Democrats and communists,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, they're absolutely crazy over on a
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  Speaker 2: big grant wing within the Democrat Party, and at least
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  Speaker 2: at the federal level, the Democrat Party is controlled, is
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  Speaker 2: controlled by that far left wing of the party. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, they have their primaries and generally the crazier
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  Speaker 2: person wins. We have our primary, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times the centrist tends to win. And so people say, well,
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  Speaker 2: why is everything trending so far to the left. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's the center of gravity. Their agenda is driven by
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  Speaker 2: their far left. Our agenda is often driven by the centrists.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why I say, it's kind of like Nascar.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone gets in the race and starts turning left. That's
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  Speaker 2: the momentum towards it. So we're Republicans if you want
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  Speaker 2: the party to go. Really, the messages and the promises
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  Speaker 2: that are made in the primary are the ones that
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  Speaker 2: are most likely to shape And I say, please send
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  Speaker 2: reinforcements to me.
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  Speaker 1: I like that Congress with Davids that could use reinforcements yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're paying attention to this because I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: get your response. Well, anyway, get out and vote, please,
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  Speaker 1: Dear God. May fifth is rapidly approaching. We're down to
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but actually less. Senate Republicans shot
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  Speaker 1: down another effort to pull the plug on the Iran war.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do an authorization for use of military force
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  Speaker 1: that have been brought up, so party line vote, with
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  Speaker 1: the exception Senator Ran Paul who did break ranks and
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  Speaker 1: decided he didn't want the effort to can tinue. Where
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  Speaker 1: are we on this, Congressman Davidson, I guess you and
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  Speaker 1: I have talked about the quote unquote legality of launching
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  Speaker 1: the attack in the first place. Was the threat eminent
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  Speaker 1: under the War Powers Resolution? Was there's no declaration of war? Clearly?
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  Speaker 1: Was this a serious concern? Is the clock ticking under
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  Speaker 1: the War Powers resolution? There's no authorization for you some
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  Speaker 1: military force, there's no declaration of war, and the effort
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  Speaker 1: to stop it from happening yesterday's got shot down. Are
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  Speaker 1: we in a state of quote unquote legal limbo? Here,
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are and So look when I when I
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  Speaker 2: first spoke on this, we had a immediately we had
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  Speaker 2: a war powers resolution vote in the House, like the
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  Speaker 2: first week that there was a combat in Iran. And
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  Speaker 2: my point was, look, it's it's not unjust. The Iatola
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  Speaker 2: was an evil guy, and the IRGC is an evil regime.
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  Speaker 2: They're imposing all kinds of evil. Even if they were
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  Speaker 2: great five years ago, which they never were. They they've
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  Speaker 2: in the past year truly murdered executed, you know, thirty
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  Speaker 2: five to forty thousand of their own citizens. So why
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  Speaker 2: because they're holding on to power with force, right they
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  Speaker 2: don't have there's no civilian leadership in Iran. The IRGC,
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  Speaker 2: the Iranian Republican guard Or, is in control of that country.
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  Speaker 2: So even as there's been efforts in diplomacy, the civilians
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  Speaker 2: will say this is a rational argument, let's agree to this,
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  Speaker 2: and then they get back in the they say, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: we can't keep that. They say, well, Trump is really
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  Speaker 2: saying this. No, he's negotiating with civilians who don't have
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  Speaker 2: the ability to commit for the country, right, and they'll
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  Speaker 2: send it an IRGC person there. So IRGC is consolidating
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  Speaker 2: even more of their power and the Ayatola had authority
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  Speaker 2: as a religious cleric within the country, so you controlled a.
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  Speaker 3: Big level of influence within the population.
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  Speaker 2: The son hasn't built that kind of thing, So is
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  Speaker 2: leaving the military really in even more power.
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  Speaker 3: And they know that if they lose control of anything,
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  Speaker 3: they're all dead.
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  Speaker 2: So they're fighting, you know, desperate, desperately to stay in control.
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  Speaker 2: Wiping these guys out is not unjust the president going
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  Speaker 2: to war somewhere without congressional authorization is not unprecedented, but
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  Speaker 2: it is unconstitutional. So this is a war of choice,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that doesn't reflect anything on our military.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these guys have been brilliant tactically and operationally.
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  Speaker 2: The strategy is the question, hey, did we really do
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  Speaker 2: this as well as we could or whatever? But this
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  Speaker 2: is the thing. Continue to bring up these war powers
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  Speaker 2: resolutions as the president is actively negotiating find in the
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  Speaker 2: conflict that you say, when you put this resolution on
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  Speaker 2: the floor you want him to end is undermining the
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  Speaker 2: ending of it. Yeah, and so I think like these
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  Speaker 2: I voted president the last time they brought it up
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  Speaker 2: because it shouldn't even be on the flo war That
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make it constitutional. The way that it's done. There's
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  Speaker 2: no point in continuing to debate that. I think the
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  Speaker 2: next time that it would be ripe for a resolution
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  Speaker 2: to come to the floor. The War Powers Resolution does
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  Speaker 2: not say the War Powers Act does not say that
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  Speaker 2: the president can do whatever he wants for ninety days.
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  Speaker 2: Some people have applied that the War Power's Resolution says
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  Speaker 2: the president in the United States can initiate combat action
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  Speaker 2: when there's been a declaration of war. There hasn't been.
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  Speaker 2: When there's an authorization and use of military force, which is.
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  Speaker 3: Like a declaration of war, but with like an actual.
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  Speaker 2: Mission statement, right, you can do this, but not everything.
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  Speaker 2: And that's generally how we've gone to war. If people say, well,
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  Speaker 2: we haven't had a declaration of war since World War Two, No,
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  Speaker 2: but we've generally authorized it, like the Gulf War for example,
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  Speaker 2: with a mission and a limited scope. And then you
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  Speaker 2: can go in exceident circumstances to repel an imminent threat
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  Speaker 2: to the United States, so that you can do and
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  Speaker 2: the question as well, and that's why Pulcy Gabbert, as
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  Speaker 2: the Director in National Intelligence, she put out what she
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  Speaker 2: had as an intelligent intelligence assessment, but she also put
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  Speaker 2: in that statement Ultimately, the President of the United States
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  Speaker 2: is responsible for determining what he considers am right. So
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump felt like it was an eminent threat to
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  Speaker 2: the United States. Therefore, she's saying he's justified and he
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  Speaker 2: can do it. I can say, like, we've seen a
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  Speaker 2: number of Intel briefings about what the situation was before.
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  Speaker 2: I had two separate briefings aside from the big briefings.
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  Speaker 3: To Congress, and I could say, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is still a war of choice, right,
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  Speaker 2: and like say, not unjust, but I'm rooting for us
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  Speaker 2: to wrap it up and minimize.
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  Speaker 3: The cost and impact and loss of life.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want the IRGC to stay in charge in Iran.
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  Speaker 2: I hope they all just vanished from the face of
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  Speaker 2: the earth tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: These are bad guys, that's not I don't know if.
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  Speaker 2: Any weapon that's going to make that work, right, and
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  Speaker 2: before God hasn't decided to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's stop and bring Congressman Davids back a comment or
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  Speaker 1: two about what I have been calling a war of attrition.
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  Speaker 1: This idea that the Iranian ports are closed, their economy
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  Speaker 1: is effectively shut down, but they cut down the straight
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  Speaker 1: of horror moves which effectively impacts the entire globe to
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  Speaker 1: a large degree. Who's going to win the battle of attrition?
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  Speaker 1: A little bit more with Congressman Warren Davidson at seventeen
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  Speaker 1: right now, if you have KERCD talk station with some
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  Speaker 1: quick words force. Who's at station seventy one if you
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  Speaker 1: have a KERCD talk station. Brian Timasia with Congressman Warren
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  Speaker 1: Davidson joined this conversation as always, and I'm pivoting back
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  Speaker 1: over to what I'm calling you a war of attrition
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  Speaker 1: right now. The Iranians obviously have blocked the straight of
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  Speaker 1: horror moves that got mines, and guess what their military,
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  Speaker 1: Their navy is not completely decimated. They have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these mosquito fleet boats, hundreds of these small fast
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  Speaker 1: attack boats, which I guess even though they're small, they
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  Speaker 1: can commandeer and take over container ships. Three of them yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently we're done so by this fast attack boat attack.
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  Speaker 1: So and we have shut down the Iranian port, preventing
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  Speaker 1: them from engaging in economic activity. Generally speaking, some are suggesting,
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  Speaker 1: like the International Monetary Fund said last week that if
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  Speaker 1: this last months, the world's economy, the economic growth of
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  Speaker 1: the entire world could drop two percent this year, which
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  Speaker 1: they say is like global recession level a retreat. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess the globe is feeling the pain obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: I have to imagine the Iranians are feeling it so
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  Speaker 1: much more because this is depriving them of almost every
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  Speaker 1: source of cash they have. So who, in your mind
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  Speaker 1: might win a battle of attrition if this continues? Congressman Davidson, Well,
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  Speaker 1: this acsion.
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  Speaker 2: With the navy, to me, is what I thought we
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  Speaker 2: should have done when negotiations failed. It's the use of
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  Speaker 2: our navy. Iran has really one source of revenues oil, right,
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  Speaker 2: and the China has propped them up and all this
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  Speaker 2: is a sort of you know, not an engagement directly
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  Speaker 2: with China. But China is not disinterested in this right situation, right,
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  Speaker 2: So I think the navy kind of you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to control all of the straight to limit Iran flow. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Ran is still disrupting things, and we've you know, choked
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  Speaker 2: off a lot of the flow. So even when countries
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  Speaker 2: who have said, oh, well this this ship, we've paid
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  Speaker 2: the toll right with this oil is free in Iran
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  Speaker 2: is letting it go. What you got to do is say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: don't do that, because your ship still isn't going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: So you can't set a situation where Iran can run
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  Speaker 2: a toll booth through the straight up hor moves and
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  Speaker 2: then get cash that way, plus get cash for the
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  Speaker 2: oil that they're shipping. And I think that was a
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  Speaker 2: great move by President Trump and the National Security team
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  Speaker 2: to close off the whole gulf effectively. Now, once somebody
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  Speaker 2: navigates through the strait and their then we're helping them
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  Speaker 2: facilitate that. But you highlight the challenges. It doesn't take
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  Speaker 2: a lot to stop an unarmed ship, and so Iran
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  Speaker 2: has still been able to cause chaos, and that level
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  Speaker 2: of chaos. Really the big thing that's driving is once
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  Speaker 2: you get that level of risk, insurance underwriters are like,
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  Speaker 2: well then steer clear of there, right right. No one
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  Speaker 2: wants to risk losing these giant ships and the value
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  Speaker 2: of them. So the insurance companies are like, we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to ensure you if you go into a war
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  Speaker 2: zone with this ship. So it's really cutting down commerce
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  Speaker 2: through the Persian Gulf region and that doesn't just affect Iran,
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  Speaker 2: it affects all of our allies in the Gulf, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then when you look at the amount, we have
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  Speaker 2: a fair bit of oil, we export oil, even we're
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  Speaker 2: going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be less affected than other countries.
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  Speaker 2: Around the world. All the Europeans are affected. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why President Trump's so frustrated. It's like, you guys need
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  Speaker 2: the oil, and you're sending no one to be helpful.
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  Speaker 2: Japan and South Korea also need the oil, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're far more limited in their capabilities to be helpful,
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  Speaker 2: and so they've since said, you know, let us see
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  Speaker 2: what we can do. Their initial reaction was we can't
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  Speaker 2: help either. So I think President Trouble is really frustrated, like,
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  Speaker 2: we don't need a will. We're over here trying to
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  Speaker 2: contain Iran from getting a nuclear weapon because you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to reach you guys faster than they are
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  Speaker 2: east the United States of America. And that's what makes
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  Speaker 2: it a world of choice. I mean, the real dangerous
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  Speaker 2: threat from Iran. They are incredibly destabilizing. They post very serious.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they've caused combat in the Middle East ever
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  Speaker 2: since they came into power in seventy nine, and they
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  Speaker 2: genuinely do it through their proxies. They fund a Moss.
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  Speaker 2: They funded the ten to seven massacre in Israel. They
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  Speaker 2: fund the Huti's who've been shooting at ships across the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sea, you know, over on the southern part of
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, the other side of in Saudi Arabia. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're shooting at ships there, trying to cause chaos through that.
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  Speaker 2: For ten years now, off these and then has the
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  Speaker 2: law has been a destabilizing force. In Iraq, you had
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  Speaker 2: all these Shia militia groups, she heit scenes or the
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  Speaker 2: Iranians Sheites she Muslims versus singing Munklim Shehites, or the
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  Speaker 2: Uranian scenes that are most everybody else in the Gulf.
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  Speaker 2: They had the Shiite.
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  Speaker 3: Proxies in her in Iraq, and that's where.
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  Speaker 2: Tosham Sulimani was facilitating all the IDs. So if you
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  Speaker 2: talk to any golf we're about the idea that the
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  Speaker 2: RGC is getting smoked, and they're happy to see it
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  Speaker 2: more than anyone else, probably except maybe the people inside
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  Speaker 2: are iran.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Who's been massacred over and over the er GC.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Well, clock is ticking. I guess we're gonna have wait
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and just keep our popcorn ot and figure out when
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: it all ends. If it ends, I can only what
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: happens soon, and I hope to the extent there's a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: war of attrition that we're capable of winning and we
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: don't fundamentally corrupt and have our relationships globally deteriorated as
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a consequence of this. Because again, when the world feels
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: pain as a consequence of the United States action, whether
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: or not it's just and proper, which you and I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: would agree it probably is, it doesn't change the focus
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of the source of the problem, which was the launching
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of the attack against the Iranians. I just I worry
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: about that on a broader scale. Congressman Davidson, No, I.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Think you're right to worry about it. And once the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: stakes are high and the founding fathers they had that debate.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: That's why they.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Put the article one power to declare war in Congress.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: And there are no free wars.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're burning, you know, one.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: To two billion dollars a day on this. And I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: think the other thing is is like Congress is supposed
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to reflect the world the people. You don't want just
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a small sort of past of warriors that wage war
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: on behalf of the whole country. When America goes to war,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you want the country to go to war, and I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: think that's one of the things where President Trump hasn't
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: really built the support for a bigger war. So we're
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: hoping to have a small war, limited engagement, and keep
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a RAN checked. And I think that's the mission that
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: they're working towards. I hope they're very successful very soon.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: As do I and I appreciate your willingness to come
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: on the program each week. Congress from Warren Davidson will
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: do it again next week. I hope you have a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: great week between now and then, and good luck dealing
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: with all the issues on your plate right now. My friend,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're there to help out the local constituents.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Youre doing a good job. We'll talk again next week.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend. Weekend, sir,