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Interview with the Vampire with Dan White · The Art of Costume Podcast

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Hi friends, This is Spencer Williams, cohost and producer of
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the Art of Costume Podcast. The episode you're about to
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listen to was recorded in recent weeks before we learned of the
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tragic news of the passing of our dear friend, costume
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designer Shawna Terpsic. Before we begin this week's
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episode, I just want to read part of a statement from
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Shawna's family and say a few personal words about our friend
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who will be missed so dearly. 1st for the Statement Born in
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Artesia, CA, Shawna want to be a truck driver in high school but
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had an art teacher who wanted her to be an artist.
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He inspired her to attend Otis College of Art and Design for
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fashion and in her senior year she worked on Bob Mackey's team.
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Shawna got her start illustrating for Albert Wolski
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on the Oscar winning film Bugsy and then became his assistant on
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Barry Levinson's film Toys. She was soon designing her own
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films and shows such as Angel, The Cabin in the Woods, Mighty
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Morphin Power Rangers and so much more.
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She worked for Jill O'hannison as assistant costume designer on
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a pilot of Firefly and eventually took over to show.
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As the story goes, a Firefly fan who worked at Skywalker Ranch
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asked Shawna if she would like a tour, and that's where she met
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George Lucas. 15 years later, she received a call to design
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The Mandalorian, fulfilling a lifelong dream to design for
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Star Wars. She then went on to design the
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costumes for The Book of Boba Fett and Asoka, earning multiple
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Emmy nominations and A/C DG Award.
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And now for a few personal words, Shawna Terpsic had one of
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the brightest, most beautiful souls you can imagine.
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Over the past couple of years, Shawna and I became friends both
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on and off camera, doing several interviews together regarding
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her impressive career, specifically with Star Wars and
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occasional Power Ranger story. If I could sneak it in, you all
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got to hear a couple of those interviews on a podcast talking
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about the book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian, and we also
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were in the midst of discussing future plans that have Shawna on
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again very soon to talk about Asoka Firefly, and she didn't
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notice. But I was also working on a
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Power Rangers piece as well, that those fortunate enough to
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known Shawna will test her passion, kindness, enthusiasm,
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boundless inspiration, unwavering positivity, and
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limitless love. Shawna loved what she did, and
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you could feel it in the way she spoke.
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The opportunity to design costumes for projects like The
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Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, and Asoka was a dream come
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true for her. In many ways, I believe Shawna's
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passion inspired not only me, like countless others, to pursue
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their own dreams and life. Every time Shawna and I spoke,
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she made a point to highlight three things.
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Her deep admiration for generous fan community whom she loved so
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dearly and you could see it when they would interact in person.
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Her incredible crews, whom she credited as a true architects of
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the magic we saw on screen, and her two beloved children who
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motivated her to be the best mother and designer she could
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be. On behalf of the art of costume
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team myself, Elizabeth and Daniel, our heartfelt love and
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condolences go out to Shawna's friends, family, her
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exceptionally talented crew, fans, and of course her two
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children Joseph and Sarah. Shawna was just the best and I'm
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having a difficult time believing she is gone.
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But I will forever cherish our conversations, meanings and
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random emails, Dms fangirling about our nerdy scifi things.
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Shawna Terpsic was a hero of mine, truly one-of-a-kind, and I
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already miss her terribly. With that being said, a fund has
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been created on behalf of her children.
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So please, please consider donating to the GoFundMe page,
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which can be found using our show notes.
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It's in the description to help with any cost during this time
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of morning. I really appreciate everyone
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chipping in. Whatever they can.
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It means a lot to all of us at The Art of Costume.
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Thank you all for listening, donating, and remembering our
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dear friend Shawna Terpsic. Now please continue enjoying
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your spooky season and enjoy this week's episode about The
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Interview with the Vampire. Like, how do they get people to
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attend this every single night? Everyone of that audience looked
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so confused. Slim Pickens for shows.
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Yeah. Hello and welcome to the Art
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Costume Podcast. I'm Elizabeth Joy Glass.
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And I am Spencer, the Pont du Lac.
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But you could just call me Spencer Vampire name.
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Oh. OK.
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OK. All right.
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Well. Hi, Elizabeth.
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Hi Spencer I feel like my name is already a vampire name so.
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Elizabeth Joy Glass. I could see it.
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Glassy vampire. Thank you.
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Well, I'm so excited for today's episode, but I think we should
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introduce our guest. We are joined for his annual
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appearance on the podcast. He only comes up once a year, so
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I'm very excited. You met him last time during
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Galaxy Quest, but you hear his voice every episode.
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It is the legendary. The only Lord that Elizabeth
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respects on this podcast. Very true.
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Lord. Dan White, welcome.
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Hello. Hey, Daniel, how's it going?
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Not. Too bad.
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How about you? Good.
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I I miss you. It's been like 24 hours since
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we've talked. I know.
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Well, we are here to get into our spooky season.
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Kind of. Officially, yes.
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Elizabeth Daniel, are you excited for spooky season?
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I am so excited. Yeah, we have a pretty good
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lineup. Just saying we.
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Do we? Do.
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I'm really excited for all these episodes.
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I'm so glad that's finally getting cold outside.
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The leaves are dying. The Black Cats are walking
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around the streets. You know, everything is getting
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dark and gloomy, and I'm just so glad summer's finally over.
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I love that the Black Cats are walking around.
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Yeah, they come out of hibernation at the end of
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summer. Yeah.
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I live with one so it terrorizes us all the time anyways.
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Right. I mean, we could actually kind
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of see one in the background. The audience can't, but I see
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one. Yeah.
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Have you guys been watching any scary movies?
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Not yet, but no. Chloe's in the mood, so I think
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we're gonna kick that off this weekend or next, yeah.
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I have a list, so gonna see what I'm gonna watch first, right?
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It'll probably be practical magic cuz I just keep thinking
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about it. And I've never seen that.
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It's so good. You.
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I love it, Daniel. Yeah, I'll write it down.
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I feel like I started early. I've already watched.
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Well, we're about to talk about one of the movies, but I watched
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The Last Voyage of the Demeter. I'm getting ready to watch.
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I'm Stoker's Dracula again. Outfitting, right?
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Lots of vampires. What else did I watch?
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Oh, I've been watching Sweeney Todd.
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I have been watching Phantom of the Opera again.
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Elizabeth, you really got me hooked on it last.
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Year. I think it.
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Was last year? And I just, yeah, I've been
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listening to the album again. I know it's not really like a
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Halloween movie, but it's just this is the time of year to
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watch. Live though, Yeah.
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But let's get into today's film. Elizabeth.
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Daniel, What are we watching? We are watching Interview with a
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Vampire. I'm so excited.
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This is actually the first time I've actually.
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I finished a movie. I would say it's just crazy.
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Yeah. I feel like I've, I've watched
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Interview of a Vampire I think 3 different times and I always
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fall asleep. Yeah.
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Shame on you. I know.
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So I finally sat down and watched it, and now I'm obsessed
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with it. Daniel, this is one of your
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favorites, right? That's one of them.
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I love vampires, so all this kind of stuff, especially like
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the classic vampires, Yeah, so this is this is up there.
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Yeah, I for me it is also my first time watching it all the
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way through because I I too fell asleep the first time I watched
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it. And this is 1 only two movies
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I've ever done that with so. Well, that's not good.
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I was very excited. I was gonna be like, okay, what
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did I miss? This feels like a very Elizabeth
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coded movie. You would think that she's seen
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this 1000 times. That's what I thought.
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That's, you know, I can see why you think that.
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You're trying to be mysterious and just keep us guessing, I
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guess. Yeah, exactly.
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I will say though, watching this made me appreciate Tom Cruise as
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an actor more, because it's one of the few things I've seen him
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in where he's not being like. Like a secret agent, like super,
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like, actiony man. And I was like, Oh my gosh, Tom
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Cruise, so much range you. Know what I'll I'll accept that
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I did a little bit more. Be like, OK, I guess Tom Cruise
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is cool in this UM. Yeah, because I've never been a
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Tom Cruise fan. But yeah, he was great in this
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UM. For me, it was Brad Pitt.
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I mean just one of the best of the best.
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Yes. So gorgeous too, in the 90s.
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Yeah, I that honestly, that was one of the reasons I was excited
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to watch. It was for.
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Brad Pitt, I also, I don't know how I forget, got though that
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Antonio Banderas was in this until he popped up on screen.
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I was like, Oh yeah. Yeah, that caught me off guard.
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And actually, when we talked about later, I've remembered
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something funny about that reminds me of Daniel.
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But I'll save that for later, OK?
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All right. Daniel Are you a Brad Pitt or a
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Tom Cruise person? Personally, I'm a Tom Cruise.
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Really. I.
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Like the Mission Impossible movies, don't you?
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No. No, no.
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I mean, those are some of them are good, but like he does other
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movies where he's not like an action person.
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Well, yeah, before like the year 2000.
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He's he's actually like a really good actor.
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You know, personal life questionable, but acting life
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really good. Yeah, for sure.
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The only movie that sticks out to me is War of the Worlds,
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which that movie still freaks me out to this day.
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My personal favorite is The Last Samurai.
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That one's good. Oh yeah, yeah.
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I got the Last Samurai I. Don't think I've seen that.
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That that's pretty good. I saw it as like a kid, so I
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don't remember much. Vanilla Sky is the one that's
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like one of my top movies. Vanilla Sky.
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I don't think you've even heard of that.
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Yeah, a little old, but still like a solid movie.
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Kind of trippy. Okay.
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Well, we'll put that on the list.
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Maybe that'll be next year's appearance.
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Well, let's get into Interview with the Vampire.
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What a fun, crazy, beautiful movie.
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Elizabeth, do you want to start us off with a summary?
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Yes. Louis, a 200 year old vampire,
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is telling his story to an eager biographer.
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Suicidal after the death of his family, he meets Lestat, a
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vampire who persuades him to choose immortality over death
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and become his companion. Eventually, gentle Louise
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resolves to leave his violent maker, but Lestat guilts him
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into staying by turning a young girl.
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Whose addition to the family breeds even more conflict.
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Very messy. Such a messy family movie.
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Yes. Absolutely.
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Well, let's go. Behind the costumes we have
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director Neil Jordan and costume designer and actual legend,
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someone. I don't even know if we've done
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one of her movies. We.
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Were talking. About I was checking.
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Right. It's so crazy.
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We are talking about Sandy Powell the GOAT.
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Seriously, she has done. So much, and looking at her
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notable work, I don't think I've seen this much Academy nominated
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work. Don't think I even put on all
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her Academy nominations. Well, let's start.
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We have Orlando, for which she was nominated for an Oscar.
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Shakespeare in Love, which was an Oscar win.
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Gangs of New York an Oscar nomination.
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The Aviator Oscar win. I'm getting exhausted already.
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The other Boleyn girl. The Young Victoria, which was an
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Oscar win. The Tempest Oscar nomination.
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Hugo Oscar nomination. The Wolf of Wall Street
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Cinderella which was a Oscar nomination.
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Carol an Oscar nomination. The favorite Oscar nomination
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still going, Mary Poppins returns Oscar nomination and I
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think probably most recently The Irishman which was another Oscar
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nomination. So.
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Sandy Powell does not mess around when it comes to
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costumes. And it blows my mind that
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Interview with the Vampire was not nominated for an Oscar.
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Out of all the films, we just said interview with the
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vampires, not one of them. I I think if this same exact
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movie was released today, it absolutely would.
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That's so funny because I was thinking that last night.
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You know vampires are back in trend.
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Absolutely. I think in the 90s people were
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just being a little, little stuck up about it.
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Yeah, it was when they saw Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise in the wig
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star like they can't be. But no, I agree with you.
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If this movie were to have come out, I don't know say like two
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years ago when it was like Kerella and Dune.
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And I definitely feel like Interview with the Vampire would
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have stood out amongst those and been nominated for sure.
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It. Honestly still holds up.
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Yeah, yeah, it's. This is a master class in like
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period costumes for sure. Absolutely it it is excellent.
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Well, so this is one of those movies.
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We're probably going along with what we were just saying.
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There's not a whole lot of information.
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So we're going to take a break. And when we come back, we're
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going to dive into the many different stages of Louie and
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Lestat's life and talk about the many costumes that we see and
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just talk about our favorites, since, you know, we.
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Don't have a lot of info from the GOAT herself, but Sandy
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Powell, if you're listening, our doors are very wide open, yeah.
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We need the info, yeah. You can move in rent free for
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all I care. If you want to write a whole
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book about your costumes for this movie, we'll support you.
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Yeah, we'll do the audio book and everything.
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Yes, please. All right, let's take a break.
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OK, are you guys ready to dive into some sexy vampire costumes?
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Well, the film starts with a very sad Louie and he's going
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through it after his wife died. And quickly this movie gets
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going when we see Louis meet Lesta.
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And I just have to say, the both of them, I think they're
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actually vampires. They look especially Brad Pitt.
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No, both of them. They look exactly the same
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today. They have definitely aged well.
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I Who are we saying we're a replicant?
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Was a replicant. Was that?
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That was Paul Redd. Paul Redd, I think they might be
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in the same category. Like has definitely aged, but
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not enough for you to be like, Oh yeah, it's been.
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Almost 30 years because this movie came out the year I was
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born. So this movie is 29 years old.
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That's so true, yeah. They're both.
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They look like replicants have just have had like a little bit
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of wear and tear, you know? But I love them at first, so I I
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don't know why I did not realize this movie started in like
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prerevolutionary America. I always thought it started in
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like the Victorian era, but then I was like, how did I mess that
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up? Because the clothes are so like
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late 1700s, like very reminiscent of like like what
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Lista is wearing. I'm like, did he just come from
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the French court? Like, did Marie Antoinette give
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him like a really nice suit? This looks like incredible.
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Yeah, it feels correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like Lestat
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is like his aesthetic tends to look gaudy.
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Yeah, yeah. Cuz I think lestat is from
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France, correct? Yeah, he's from Paris I.
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Think Yeah, So he probably brought over that.
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Yeah, and you know, definitely he's been a vampire a lot longer
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than, well, I mean, Louie's getting turned as we speak, so
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Lestat's been a vampire for a little bit longer and I just
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love the idea. I hate to compare what we know
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from like what we do in the shadows, but they're very like,
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in ways I feel like the stats very stuck in, like where he
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came from, you know, when he became a vampire.
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So, like, he's still kind of caring.
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He's trying to blend into this Louisiana society, but he's
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still very much like that French lista at the same time.
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Which is actually one of the themes that Antonio Banderas's
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character kind of points out later.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, Brad Pitt's though, I feel
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like his outfit looks very costume house rented, doesn't
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it? He's definitely like, I would
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say, I mean, he's working. Well, he's not working.
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He owns a plantation, right. So he's very, I don't know,
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he's, he has money, but he's going through it with the death
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of his wife. So I feel like he's just kind of
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a little bit more dressed down and kind of.
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His hands are dirty, but not really because he has slaves
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doing it for him. But so I think he's a little bit
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more dressed down for sure. Yeah, absolutely.
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He's definitely not up to the The Granger of Lestat.
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Until he gets it to his very new relationship with Lestat, and
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suddenly he just he's looking good.
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Yeah, they both. Kind of.
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I would say Louie really just dives right in and just
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definitely amps up his costumes, his persona, his character.
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He's trying to see if he could love this new life he has, but
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it's definitely not easy for him.
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I love the scene where Louie and let's not go to that party and
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everyone is very gaudy. I would say very it's like old,
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very French. That Lady with the dogs, is that
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cool? Yeah, I think so.
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This reminded? Have you ever watched Dangerous
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Liaison? No.
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Gosh, this whole scene reminded me of that movie.
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Just like the way everyone's dressed to the nines, cuz like
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everyone is like over the top in that movie.
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And it's amazing. And this reminded me of that so
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much, particularly her dress, which is all the embellishment
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on it in the world. All of the yeah, there's like
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gold bows on the front. There's bows here.
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The yellow velvet is just her golden velvet is so strong.
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Over the top lacing, yeah. Over the top, very everything
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you could tell that this lady is.
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Definitely has a little bit of money behind her.
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Yeah, it's almost like out of a painting, yeah.
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Yeah, Oh yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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The colors are so great and we're looking at a picture and I
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never noticed. Let's stop before.
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Just like staring down her. Like, I don't want to say
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bodyguard, but like Handler. Yeah, looking at him like the
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tasty little snack that he is, he's definitely like, we're
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going to, we're going to have a good night tonight.
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Man, so scary. Very comfortable.
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I do love, though, like, so Louise, like so much more
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dressed up now. But he's still like, let's stat.
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I'm not going with all this embroidery, like all this
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velvet. He's still, like, much simpler
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because he's just not as flashy as let's stat.
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Right. Yeah.
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He's like, I'm not, he's been a vampire for like a few weeks or
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something. Like I'm not going to jump.
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Right into your crazy wardrobe, but it's definitely happening a
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little bit. Lesta is very controlling,
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trying to control his image, as we'll see a little bit later on
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with some other characters, yes. Such a healthy relationship, I
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would say definitely, yeah. Sarcasm.
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Very abusive as we talk about Let's Stat though Sandy Powell.
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This is literally the only piece of information we are able to
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find from Sandy Powell. Marie Claire quotes her as
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saying Interview with a Vampire travels through time, so I got
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the opportunity to address Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and many
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different looks, but this costume is pretty much accurate
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for the 18th century period, referring to the blue ensemble
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he has when the house is burning down.
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Tom's character, Lestat was meant to be handsome and
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charismatic, so I always dressed him expensively and up to date.
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His shirt is particularly volumous to give that air of
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romanticism. Interesting.
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Interesting. So, compared to everyone else,
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he's dressed better than like most wealthy people.
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So he stands out even amongst them.
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Yeah, interesting. Yeah, it's you see Lestat in the
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room and instantly you're just kind of taken by him, which is
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part of his evil, devious plan for some late night snacks.
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I love, I love Lestat in the blue.
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I think it's it looks really good on him and he does always
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stand out. And I get what she means about
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like that era of Romanticism, because he does kind of remind
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me of like a character you'd read about and like a romantic
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novel. Not that I've read any, but this
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is kind of what I would picture what they look like.
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Not that I've read any, but. You know, I don't read romance
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novels. One thing that caught me off
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guard was that Tammy Newton was in this film.
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What was Tandy Newton? Yeah, that really blew me away.
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One of my faves from Westworld Norbit.
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For all those who know. Oh my gosh.
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She's like, so young and like sweet little baby Tandy Newton,
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who was crazy. Wow.
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Oh my gosh. Did not put that together.
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Daniel was like, I don't know who that is.
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Yeah, I have no idea. She's brilliant.
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She did such a good job in this too.
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I know, yeah, she she definitely should have had a little bit
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more of a people should put some more respect on her name in this
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film because she carries it. So Louie sets his house on fire,
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which is very sad because it was such a nice house.
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But they end up moving to New Orleans and Louie's going
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through it. He's feeling all the all the
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fields. And Lestat was like, don't go.
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I know we'll help you. Here's a new child and very
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messy. Which intros Claudia, which was
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crazy to see a young Kirsten Dunst.
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She is like actually a child in this.
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She is so young and I also love how they they move kind of
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seamlessly from like decade to decade because this is like you
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can tell from her clothes this is about like Regency era, so
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probably like the 19 tens, 20s and they just do it very
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seamlessly like it's not a big shock every time they change
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decades or styles. Yeah, it's a very creepy because
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let's start he, you know, we've talked about how he likes to
26:22
collect people and control people and you see it the most
26:25
with Claudia, because yes. She is essentially like his
26:30
porcelain doll. The hair is very big and curly
26:36
like a doll. She's wearing that like hat with
26:39
the tie around her neck, which reminds you of like a little Bo
26:42
peep moment. It's a little bonnet.
26:45
Yeah, it's very creepy. She looks beautiful, of course,
26:49
but it's just creepy. And also notice the color she's
26:52
wearing almost consistently during the time of Lestat is
26:56
blue his favorite? I think it's because Lestat
26:59
turned her. Yeah, and then the the one that
27:03
becomes Claudia's mother is green, which I believe Louie
27:08
wears a lot of green. Yeah, yeah.
27:11
So I think it's like a playoff of that.
27:14
Hmm, that's interesting. Yeah, Louie does wear a lot of
27:17
green. Like dark dark greens most of
27:20
the time. So I think it has to do with
27:22
like that kind of theme. It would suck to be a child
27:26
Vampire wouldn't. It yeah, like that would not be
27:32
fun. Like, no wonder she has so many
27:35
issues. Yeah, she's what she's like 30
27:38
year old, 30 years old at one point.
27:41
And she still looks like she's, you know, 11.
27:44
She's like, what is wrong with me?
27:46
And it's like. Oh, I just remembered the part
27:53
where Lestat was dancing around with Claudia's dead mom.
27:57
That was a lot that was horrifying.
27:59
That was not cute. That there's some images that
28:05
just stay in your head after a movie.
28:06
That was one of them for me, yeah.
28:12
But yeah, just seen the three of them together as a transition
28:15
into this, like new New Orleans life, I would say that it.
28:20
It's kind of interesting how Lestat really did kind of change
28:24
his costumes once again, because now he's a little bit more
28:27
appropriate for the era, feels a little bit more gentleman.
28:31
The E Dapper with the top hats. It's it's convincing.
28:37
So he's actually doing a pretty good job at it.
28:40
And Louis just looks great as always.
28:43
I love there's the one scene where they're just walking
28:45
together through the streets, seeing the three of them.
28:48
And they look great. Yeah, they do make like as like
28:53
a three person unit. It's like they do coordinate and
28:56
dress quite well together. Daniel, I feel like this would
29:03
be like a perfect era for you. I can imagine you.
29:05
And like, the coat and the top hat.
29:08
Yeah, those shirts too. With the little shirts, Yeah,
29:13
this is definitely a bot. Hell yeah.
29:17
Very you, Daniel. But Claudia really gets
29:23
frustrated being a permanent little girl and she and let's
29:29
not get into some bickering which ends with.
29:33
The stop basically gained his throat, ripped open, bleeding
29:35
all over the floor and gained carried to the swamps of New
29:39
Orleans and gained dumped into the swamp and turned into gazer
29:43
food. Claudia.
29:44
Yes, I was so excited for her. In that moment.
29:49
I was like, girl, you take control of your life.
29:54
Daniel, I want to say this the moment where we see let's stop
29:58
bleeding out on the floor. Do you know what that image
30:01
reminded me of almost immediately?
30:03
Resident Evil it just. Yeah, that's a good one.
30:07
Yeah, he looks just like the icon.
30:09
There's like iconic scene in like the first Resident Evil
30:12
where you see like this. The zombie for the first time.
30:15
Yeah, that that is less. That's for all the nerds out
30:18
there. All two of you there listening
30:20
to the podcast who play Resident Evil.
30:23
But I think my favorite costumes were the ones that Louie and
30:28
Claudia wear to the swamp, because they're rainbows, like
30:32
swampy greens. I love like a Louisiana swamp
30:36
for some reason, and they just like blend into it so perfectly
30:41
with the greens. Mmhmm.
30:42
Claudia's wearing some pinks underneath, but there's still a
30:45
little bit of blue. She's still Lasat's perfect
30:49
little doll. I feel like the green cloak is
30:51
supposed to be like representation of Louis
30:55
protecting her or something. Yeah, that's a good way to.
30:58
Put There's also, like, a really good use of white, white
31:01
clothing. Yeah.
31:02
Because like, every time a vampire goes for the kill,
31:06
they're still, even though they're wearing white, it's
31:08
always, like, pristine. Clean, no marks, no nothing.
31:12
And like, you know, red really shows well on, yeah, on like
31:16
white clothing. So like you can see on Louie
31:20
when he gets his throat chopped off, yeah, it just lends so
31:24
well. And wearing white to like a
31:28
nasty swamp is such a such a flex.
31:33
Yeah, yeah, for him to live this choice.
31:37
Yeah, that's actually one of the best parts because like, you
31:40
know, you always talk about like loving, distressing.
31:44
I feel like Lestat throughout this whole movie from this point
31:48
on is just nothing but like a distressed to distress to
31:52
distressed version of like himself and that like, that's
31:56
like the best part of this movie.
31:58
He never fully recovers from being Gator food, and that
32:01
really has like an impact on your mental and physical health.
32:10
Which proves Daniel's very right on, because as we get back to
32:14
the house, Lestat shows back up and is playing the piano.
32:18
Which is interesting because when he's playing the piano, I
32:20
believe it's the same exact outfit, obviously, that he was
32:23
wearing last time he was playing the piano.
32:26
So it's like seeing. It's just to compare and
32:29
contrast is so great, very creepy.
32:32
The makeup and prosthetics are. Perfect.
32:36
Yeah. This is like one of my favorite
32:38
scenes. It's a good one.
32:40
And because I never fully finished this movie before, I
32:43
thought this was the end of the movie.
32:45
So I got to this point. I was like, wow, that's ending
32:48
already. I knew it wasn't the end
32:51
because, like, I think I had fallen asleep before this part
32:56
and then I had woken up like later in the movie.
32:58
So I knew this wasn't the end. Yeah, Lista looks like he
33:05
definitely smells pretty strong right now.
33:09
I love the breakdown of this costume is just so well done.
33:14
But Lista ends up burning down in the house, allegedly.
33:19
So our favorite duo of Claudia and Louis go to Perry.
33:26
Yes. And Claudia gets to live her
33:28
life. And you know, Louise laying her
33:31
go to like, I love that scene where she's at, the fitting,
33:34
just dancing around in these dresses.
33:36
She's still wearing blue, which is interesting to me, but she's
33:39
finally just going to be like the young woman that she's
33:42
wanted to be, wearing whatever she wants.
33:44
If the corset and the bustle in the back of it, she's living
33:48
right now, yeah. And she transitions into much
33:50
darker colors. So she's like, I am mentally,
33:55
she is an adult. She is like mature kind of in
33:59
that sense. So she's choosing like adult
34:02
silhouettes and colors to reflect like her mental state.
34:08
Yeah, that's true her Her clothing choices tend to be more
34:10
adult when they move to Paris, right?
34:14
Yeah, yeah. And she goes more into like
34:17
jewel tones, which I think it's kind of a way of her.
34:21
Making that connection in her head where she's still, you
34:23
know, kind of like the child of Louie and the stunt.
34:26
So she's still wearing like those Blues, but it's darker as
34:29
she's a little bit more of like a tested moving into being like
34:33
her own type of character at this moment.
34:37
But this introduces something I was not fully prepared for.
34:43
Antonio Banderas, as Armand And I mentioned earlier that this
34:49
guy remind me of Daniel because when we did Halloween one year,
34:52
he dressed up as serious black. And now like, this is just what
34:56
his costume looked like to me. I think you were actually being
34:59
Armand Daniel, if you had a beer, this would be Daniel.
35:06
But yeah, this man looks. Amazing.
35:09
I love the long hair. The wig is like questionable at
35:12
times, but it gets better I would say throughout the film.
35:17
I yeah. I mean, it takes like a second
35:20
to get used to him with this, like length of hair, but like,
35:24
it kind of works. And that red What is that?
35:28
A cloak? That's kind of a play on
35:30
Dracula, right? I think so.
35:32
And it works a. Little bit, but Dracula hadn't
35:34
come. Out at this point yet, though,
35:36
which is interesting. Oh, that's true.
35:39
Oh. Yeah, because that was my first
35:41
thought. I was like, oh, it's, you know,
35:43
Gary Oldman, but this came out technically before, but it's
35:47
still something about a vampire just screams like a big red
35:51
trailing cloak. So I'm not surprised that both
35:53
of these films hit that same note, because, I mean, you're
35:57
not going to see a vampire walking around in a big white
35:59
cloak, that creepy UR. So I just feel like a big red
36:03
blood color blood cloak just really works and.
36:07
I mean, Armand kills it, you know?
36:10
Absolutely. And I love his, like, level
36:14
sophistication above, like all the other vampires that are
36:18
there. And he's just like, yeah,
36:21
they're all kind of idiots. I'm the one in charge.
36:27
We see when we go to the theater of vampires, yeah, you could
36:33
tell that the other vampires that work for him are like a
36:35
bunch of dorks. But they know how to put on a
36:37
show, though. They do.
36:39
And I'm like, what do the humans in the audience think was
36:43
happening? Like, how do they get people to
36:47
attend this every single night? Everyone in that audience looked
36:51
so confused. Yeah, they look so.
36:54
Confused. It's the ticket value.
36:58
The ticket pricing must be like very competitive for Paris at
37:01
this time because. Slim pickings for shows, yeah?
37:12
Yeah, that I wasn't wanting the same thing.
37:13
It's like, how did you all end up at this performance?
37:16
And but I really love this scene.
37:19
I think it's such an interesting, beautiful scene.
37:21
It's disturbing, but just seeing the costumes work on that stage,
37:24
all the black cloaks and how they move, it's very creepy.
37:29
But then you see Armond emerge, and like that again, that
37:33
scarlet Crimson red color. You could tell that he's like
37:38
the leader of this whole thing and everyone else kind of has a
37:40
little bit of a fear of Armand. I don't like that one dork,
37:45
though. Who like is, I don't know, his
37:48
like #2 or whatever. Yeah.
37:54
So things are starting to get messy with the vampires, but not
37:58
before Claudia ends up with a new mommy.
38:01
How's that? Yeah, I like her new mom.
38:04
I don't understand how she jumped to the conclusion that,
38:07
like, Louie was going to, like, abandon her or something.
38:11
But I do like her new mom. Yeah, I do.
38:16
I love the two of them together. And now that we've talked, I
38:20
think I've kind of figured out in my head what's up with the
38:22
colors. Because I I love Claudia and the
38:25
blue, but I was like, why is the new mom in a green?
38:29
I'm like, oh, well, it's just Louie and Lestat all over again.
38:32
It's just like the cycle of abuse continues throughout all
38:36
the different relationships for Claudia, Louie, and Lestat.
38:39
So she's in like a emerald green.
38:43
It's almost like she's replacing Louie in a way before she gets
38:48
dropped, you know? Yeah, yeah.
38:51
Which I don't think was going to happen.
38:53
But I also like that she had the forethought to, like, be like, I
38:58
need to go get a willing adult to act like my guardian, even
39:03
though eventually I am an adult. I know I need another adult.
39:12
But things fall apart very quickly.
39:14
I was shocked when Claudia and her new mom got torched.
39:19
I'm like, they had nothing. Well, she had something to do,
39:22
but the mom had nothing to do. Was that death?
39:28
Until the very end of the movie, I was kind of like waiting for
39:32
Claudia to come back because I just failed to believe that she
39:35
actually died at that point in the movie.
39:37
And I was wrong. She got crispy.
39:40
Chicken nuggeted. So although I'll be honest, I'm
39:43
like, why didn't the mom just, like, hide her under her skirts?
39:50
Like, you know what I mean to hide her from.
39:51
The sun no before they died. Yeah, she she just.
39:57
Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, clearly she's scared of
40:01
the sun. Put her under your skirt.
40:03
Although, like their entire like maybe her dress would have
40:07
burned up and then Claudia would have burned up anyway.
40:09
I don't know. That is true.
40:11
I mean when they found her body. And I don't think.
40:15
I don't think the dress has made it either.
40:17
No. One of my favorite costumes is
40:21
Louise looking. Where's to torch the place?
40:25
Yes, his murderous rampage. This was my favorite part of the
40:29
movie. I want a site, Daniel, can you
40:33
hook me up with a site? I feel like you know somebody.
40:37
Come to Pennsylvania. We can get you a site down here.
40:40
There's lots of farms. Same over here in Vermont.
40:45
I love the forethought, though, of him getting a site because he
40:48
can't get too close to the fire, but he knows he's going to need
40:51
to, like, chop people's heads off.
40:53
Yeah, So brilliant. So smart.
40:55
Yeah, he's a good thinker. Yeah, it's almost like he
40:57
becomes death. You definitely see the the
41:01
transition. He leaves the old Louis behind
41:03
and becomes, it's like, all right, well, my kid crispy.
41:08
I'm like a new murderous vampire at this point.
41:10
I'm going to do what I have to do and I'm done being everyone's
41:13
friend, kind of. So he, yeah, he definitely
41:16
becomes a Batty. And I love that vest that he's
41:20
wearing. The text on it is beautiful,
41:23
Just stands out. And again, he's wearing the
41:24
white. And this time, like Daniel
41:27
mentioned earlier, the white is a little bit more distressed.
41:30
It's very dirty and to me just kind of shows again, the idea
41:34
that he's really becoming okay with being this murderous
41:39
vampire that let's not always wanted him to be from the
41:41
beginning, yeah. I think it's also a play on like
41:46
maybe him getting his hands dirty, cuz like the whole time
41:49
he's so pristine and clean. Yeah, and he's kind of let
41:53
everyone do everything for him, honestly.
41:57
Yeah, it's definitely him stepping up and taking charge,
42:01
but like. So one thing with like, Louie,
42:03
it's like he's always done what he thought was like, the right
42:06
thing to do. And in this case, he's like,
42:10
okay, you murdered my kid. I'm going to murder you right
42:14
back. Like, fine.
42:16
The right thing to do is starting to get boring for him.
42:21
Well, it's not like he can turn them into the police.
42:23
Hey, they crispied my vampire daughter.
42:28
That's true. And then we Fast forward back to
42:31
New Orleans in 1988, and Louis just goes to go check in on his
42:36
old friend Lesta. I mean, he sees a creepy house
42:39
and he's like, I wonder goes in. Of course we find Lesta really
42:44
just being the ultimate couch potato.
42:46
Yeah. Because it's it's his old house.
42:49
It's the house they had in New Orleans, right?
42:52
And Lesta, it's just been chilling here the entire time,
42:55
just really growing into the chair.
42:58
I know, I'm like. I like, has it really taken you
43:01
this long to regenerate yourself?
43:03
Like what is happening here? He's just eating like rats and
43:07
birds and stuff. So I mean, you know, he needs
43:10
like a nice juicy steak, if you know what I mean.
43:13
And he's just been eating very bad appetizers.
43:16
Yeah, maybe he's eating like fast food.
43:20
He needs to switch his diet up again, like the makeup and
43:27
prosthetics let's That looks so creepy, and I just feel like I
43:34
haven't looked into it by hope that there's a Cami War
43:36
nomination, at least for like, the makeup and prosthetics team.
43:41
Are you looking up who did it? Yeah, well, I'm just gonna go
43:45
into the Oscars has like a database of all their winners
43:48
and nominees, so just look up Interview with a Vampire.
43:53
They didn't get anything so crazy, So crazy.
44:01
Well, major bummer for the Academy, but whatever.
44:05
But what's not a bummer? Is Louie looking real good at
44:09
the movies, though? Yeah, he's aged well, you know.
44:13
I mean, he still looks the same, but the way he's adapted to like
44:16
1988, he's still real good. But yeah, he's still like, from
44:22
New Orleans. So he's not, like, gonna be
44:25
wearing parachute pants and neon tank tops, you know?
44:29
He looks like, like a like a very successful businessman.
44:32
Like that's his whole vibe in the 80s.
44:36
Yeah, I love it. And I love the ponytail, yeah.
44:39
You know what's interesting too, is that, like, throughout the
44:41
whole time, it looks like all the vampires always have like, a
44:46
velvety suede material to their outfits and that almost, like,
44:51
no ever changes. Yeah, that's true.
44:54
They, I mean, they love an expensive fabric.
44:56
They just can't help themselves. Yeah.
45:01
But yeah, I wonder why that is. It's almost like they're kind
45:04
of, the vampires are just glowing all the time.
45:07
They have like a little bit of a Sheen to them in the moon.
45:11
Just adds, like a bit of like beauty to the aesthetic.
45:15
Make them, since they're supposed to be, like, eternally
45:17
beautiful, especially under the moonlight, because they're
45:20
always in darkness too. So I feel like their fabrics are
45:23
a little bit more reflective. Oh yeah, that's true.
45:26
Yeah, I love that. What I don't love was this dorky
45:31
interviewer guy who clearly just like Elizabeth and I the first
45:35
time we're not watching the movie because he didn't hear a
45:39
damn word that Louie was saying the entire time.
45:44
He. He.
45:45
Was real distracted. He was played by Christian
45:49
Slater and yeah, what a dork. He didn't hear anything.
45:55
Louis, the whole time was like, dark, dark, dark, sad, sad, sad.
45:58
I hate all of this. And he was like, so can you make
46:01
me a vampire? I was like.
46:03
No, come on. He was like, had I understood,
46:08
would have said no. But yeah, I I do love the entire
46:16
premise of this film and it being this this big long
46:20
interview and the interviewer just does not understand like,
46:24
what a bummer. But fortunately he gets his
46:27
pretty quickly because good old pal Laestat was just chilling in
46:31
his car the entire time, I guess.
46:33
Yeah, I'm like, has he just, like creepily been following
46:37
Louis to just see what he's up to?
46:40
I think since he found him again.
46:42
He kind of started stalking him. Stalking him got some good, some
46:46
good meals in him apparently. Oh yeah.
46:49
He's definitely been eating good lately.
46:51
He looks, he looks pretty much the same except he's wearing.
46:55
I love his his take on 80s because if you look at his
46:58
sleeves, it looks like he still has like because he died volume.
47:02
He has the same shirt from the 1700s, which how that has not
47:05
disintegrated, I don't understand.
47:08
Well, it looks very dirty but he throws on like at 80s.
47:12
I can't tell if it's leather or denim.
47:14
I think it's leather. He throws on like 80s.
47:16
He stole it. Yeah, it definitely feels like
47:19
he stole it. So he's like, I'm not getting
47:21
rid of this shirt, but I am going to wear that cool jacket I
47:24
found off some guy. That guy I murdered?
47:28
Take his jacket. Yes, yeah.
47:33
And he's, I guess he's just really wants another piece of
47:38
Louis. So he's going to be, you know,
47:41
chasing him down a little bit, listening to his.
47:43
Well, he doesn't listen to the. I guess the podcast Christian
47:47
Slater recorded. He turns that shit off real
47:50
quick and that brings us to the End of Interview with the
47:56
Vampire. I am so glad that we finally got
47:59
to watch this. I feel like I've been missing
48:00
out my entire life and I just feel a little bit more complete
48:03
now. Good.
48:05
You know one thing that was Well, I'll.
48:08
I'll save this till the one costume.
48:11
Oh, OK, Daniel's ready to play the game.
48:13
Already that was missed. That was my personal favorite.
48:17
OK, well, I mean, maybe we should take a little break and
48:20
when we come back, we will play our favorite game.
48:23
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49:15
It's. About there Daniel.
49:38
Are you ready to play our favorite game?
49:41
I am. I'm kind of dying to know what
49:44
Daniels costume was that we missed.
49:46
I know. I mean, there was a lot of
49:49
costumes. Yeah, when when you see it,
49:52
you'll be like, Oh my God, I forgot about this.
49:55
OK, it's it's a it's a showstopper for sure.
49:58
It might change your minds. Just saying.
50:00
Just saying. All right.
50:03
Well, usually we say hit it, Daniel, but you're right here.
50:06
So yeah, so all hit it. The one costume.
50:12
To rule them all. OK, I think I'll go first to get
50:21
my blabbering out of the way. So my favorite costume was the
50:27
set that Louie and Claudia were to the swamp.
50:30
I love. Like the Forest Green, the sage
50:33
green that they're both wearing. Especially Claudia's look,
50:38
because she's, you know, kind of blending into this swamp
50:40
environment a little bit. But she still has, like Daniel
50:45
mentioned earlier, it's almost like Louie is kind of cloaking
50:48
her, trying to make her feel a little bit more protected and
50:52
safe, even though she's watching one of her dad's get chewed up
50:55
by a Gator at this moment. But she's wearing pink
50:58
underneath, so it still just kind of shows like Claudia just
51:01
trying to like break out of this whole that listants had her in.
51:06
But yet she still has a little bit of blue in her costume.
51:08
So I just feel like that specific costume that she's
51:10
wearing just says so much about her character at this very
51:14
moment in time before they go to Paris.
51:18
So I think that's just a banger costume.
51:22
I approve, and Louie definitely looks like a like a classic
51:26
vampire. Yeah, the.
51:28
Specific like time with the cloak, the like vest.
51:34
The old Timey cravat. Yeah, I would definitely agree
51:37
this is like stereotypical vampire Elizabeth.
51:41
What was your one costume ruled them all?
51:44
MY1 costume to rule them all is also a set.
51:47
It's a Claudia and her new mom because, like, they compliment
51:54
each other so well and it's really Claudia being like, this
51:58
is my new life, like. I know I cannot, like, be with
52:03
you forever. So I'm finding myself a new
52:06
parent and I'm gonna go live my best life without you, Louis.
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And it's just it's elegant. And really, really vampirey, if
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I'm being honest. Very vampirey.
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And the colors too. Again, like, I love the use of
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color that Sandy Powell uses in the costumes.
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And again, that shiny quality to it is so nice.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. All right, Daniel, I want to
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know what this costume is that you've been holding on to.
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So for me it is Louie's. Fur coat ensemble that he has,
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which is that's such a good one. After Claudia dies and after he
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kills all the other vampires, he goes to talk to Armand.
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Oh yeah, and. He has this like fur coat with
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this like really lavish, like vest, cravat and he almost has
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like a king, almost like Dracula look to.
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Yeah, and for me it kind of gives off like.
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This is like his ultimate form, you know, Like, yes.
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Yeah. Like he's evolved into like the
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final boss battle. Yeah, And it it almost feels
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like he is the king of vampires, you know?
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Yeah, this look. Yeah, I mean, he just turned
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Armand on his head by, you know, uneliving all of his vampire
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buddies. I don't think Armand was that
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upset about it. I don't think he was, but I
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think it definitely was a flex. I think our mom was just like,
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but you're going to stay with me?
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Yeah. No, no, no.
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OK. He's a hard pass.
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You definitely were in on the plan to turn my daughter into a
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crispy chicken nugget. So yeah, no, that's a good one,
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Daniel. I can't believe I missed that
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scene in our in our notes. It's so good.
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He just definitely looks so evolved and kind of like like
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the mob boss of the vampires, you know?
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Like you don't want to mess with this guy anymore.
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He just clearly for sure. Yeah, he just showed his
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talents, so no one's messing with Louie anymore.
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And that brings us to the end of our Interview with the Vampire
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episode. This was so fun.
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Yes, and if you would all like to tell us you're one costume to
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What are we watching next week? I'm very excited about this one.
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It's been a long time. You're so.
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Excited. You put a picture up in our
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slide. One of my all time celebrity
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crushes is 1 Eva Green. She is absolutely brilliant and
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a few years ago I think we were like in college.
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Yeah, Showtime had this fantastic series called Penny
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Dreadful. It is so good.
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It stars Eva Green as Vanessa Ives.
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There's some Frankenstein elements.
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There's Dorian Gray. It is everything.
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And if you haven't seen the series, go watch it.
55:29
And if you have seen the series, you're probably jumping up and
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down right now because it is perfect.
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And we're talking about the original Penny Dreadful series,
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not the rebooth they did a year or two ago.
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Which I haven't seen. I don't know what it's like, but
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we're talking about the original.
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Oh, I didn't know there was a a reboot.
55:48
They did a reboot in like it was sent in like Los Angeles.
55:51
I think it was supposed to be like about like, I don't know,
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serial killers or something. I don't know.
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I didn't even, I didn't want anything to do with it,
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honestly, because you just. I just felt like they couldn't
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top this masterpiece. Daniel, have you seen it?
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I haven't seen it. Just because, like personally,
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I'm not much of ATV Watcher, but I have heard of it and I've seen
56:14
bits and pieces of episodes. It's and I like the the dark
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aesthetic of it. Yeah, I think you'll love.
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It you would like it, you would like it.
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It's perfect for our spooky season.
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So for everyone get a refresher. Go watch Penny Dreadful.
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I myself need to go hop in the other room and start rewatching
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this. It's been a long time, but I'm
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very excited. And Daniel, thank you so much
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for joining us this. Has been fun.
56:38
Thank you. Thank you.
56:39
I wish your appearances were not annually maybe.
56:42
Like by No, not by annually. Like twice a year maybe.
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That'd be a step up at least. If you all enjoyed this episode,
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57:33
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57:38
helpings of, you know, whatever you need so you don't become a
57:41
couch potato like Lestat. That's not.
57:44
That's not it. Yeah, yeah.
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Everybody take care of yourself. Yeah, take care of yourself.
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Going to put it. Thanks for joining, Danielle,
57:53
and thank you for listening. Bye.
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design. He's not a Lord, he's just a
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landowner. I copied and pasted it from like
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IMDb or something so she doesn't like the use of Lord.
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I can tell it. Rise.