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S7, Ep 75: From Kitchen Table to Riverbank: The Whuff Rod Co. Journey with Dave Huff · The Articulate Fly

• 0:03
  Hey
• 0:04
  folks,
• 0:04
  it's
• 0:04
  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  The
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  On
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  this
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  episode,
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  I'm
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  joined
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  by
• 0:09
  Dave
• 0:09
  Huff,
• 0:10
  the
• 0:10
  driving
• 0:10
  force
• 0:10
  behind
• 0:11
  Whuff
• 0:11
  Rod
• 0:11
  Co
• 0:12
  and
• 0:12
  the
• 0:12
  Kentucky
• 0:13
  River
• 0:13
  Musky
• 0:14
  Classic.
• 0:14
  Dave
• 0:15
  shares
• 0:15
  his
• 0:15
  passion
• 0:15
  for
• 0:16
  chasing
• 0:16
  muskie
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  on
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  the
• 0:17
  fly
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  and
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  what
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  drove
• 0:18
  him
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  to
• 0:18
  make
• 0:18
  Whuff
• 0:18
  Rod
• 0:19
  Co
• 0:19
  a
• 0:19
  reality.
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  I
• 0:20
  think
• 0:20
  you're
• 0:20
  really
• 0:21
  going
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  to
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  enjoy
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  this
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  one,
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  before
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  It
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  interview.
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  Well,
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  Dave,
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  welcome
• 1:30
  to
• 1:30
  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  Yeah,
• 1:32
  thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Yeah,
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  I'm
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  looking
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  forward
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  to
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  our
• 1:35
  conversation.
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  And
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  we
• 1:35
  have
• 1:36
  a
• 1:36
  tradition
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  on
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  We
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  ask
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  all
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  of
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  our
• 1:38
  guests
• 1:39
  to
• 1:39
  share
• 1:39
  their
• 1:39
  earliest
• 1:40
  fishing
• 1:40
  memory.
• 1:41
  Okay.
• 1:42
  Yeah,
• 1:43
  Farm
• 1:44
  pond
• 1:44
  fishing
• 1:44
  for
• 1:44
  me,
• 1:45
  man.
• 1:45
  My,
• 1:46
  you
• 1:46
  know,
• 1:47
  I
• 1:47
  grew
• 1:47
  up
• 1:47
  in
• 1:47
  Kentucky,
• 1:48
  rural
• 1:49
  Boone
• 1:49
  county
• 1:50
  area
• 1:51
  and
• 1:52
  fishing
• 1:53
  with
• 1:53
  my
• 1:53
  grandpa.
• 1:54
  Probably,
• 1:54
  probably
• 1:55
  the,
• 1:55
  the
• 1:56
  single
• 1:57
  moment
• 1:58
  that
• 1:58
  sticks
• 1:58
  out
• 1:58
  the
• 1:58
  most
• 2:00
  is,
• 2:01
  you
• 2:01
  know,
• 2:02
  I
• 2:02
  was
• 2:02
  maybe
• 2:04
  six
• 2:04
  or
• 2:04
  seven
• 2:05
  and
• 2:06
  I
• 2:06
  remember
• 2:07
  casting
• 2:08
  out
• 2:08
  a
• 2:09
  Rapala
• 2:09
  or
• 2:09
  something
• 2:10
  and
• 2:11
  hooking
• 2:12
  two
• 2:12
  fish
• 2:13
  on
• 2:13
  the
• 2:13
  same
• 2:14
  lure
• 2:14
  and
• 2:14
  bringing
• 2:15
  them
• 2:15
  in.
• 2:16
  And
• 2:16
  I
• 2:17
  remember
• 2:17
  that
• 2:17
  pretty
• 2:18
  vividly
• 2:18
  is
• 2:19
  after
• 2:19
  that
• 2:19
  I
• 2:19
  was
• 2:20
  like,
• 2:21
  I
• 2:21
  was
• 2:21
  all
• 2:21
  about
• 2:22
  fishing.
• 2:22
  You
• 2:22
  know,
• 2:22
  like
• 2:23
  I
• 2:23
  want
• 2:23
  to,
• 2:23
  you
• 2:24
  know,
• 2:24
  lunch
• 2:24
  break
• 2:25
  at
• 2:25
  the
• 2:25
  farm.
• 2:25
  I
• 2:25
  was
• 2:26
  fishing
• 2:27
  after
• 2:27
  work.
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  was
• 2:28
  fishing,
• 2:29
  just
• 2:29
  trying
• 2:30
  to,
• 2:31
  you
• 2:31
  know,
• 2:31
  chase
• 2:32
  stuff.
• 2:32
  And
• 2:33
  I
• 2:33
  was
• 2:33
  notoriously
• 2:35
  like
• 2:35
  late
• 2:35
  for,
• 2:36
  for
• 2:36
  dinner
• 2:36
  with
• 2:37
  my,
• 2:37
  with
• 2:37
  my
• 2:37
  buddies.
• 2:38
  You
• 2:38
  know,
• 2:38
  my
• 2:38
  mom
• 2:39
  would
• 2:40
  be
• 2:40
  like,
• 2:40
  you
• 2:41
  know,
• 2:41
  we'd
• 2:41
  be,
• 2:41
  we'd
• 2:42
  walk
• 2:42
  down
• 2:42
  a
• 2:42
  creek
• 2:43
  and
• 2:43
  before
• 2:44
  you
• 2:44
  realize
• 2:44
  that
• 2:45
  you're,
• 2:45
  you're
• 2:46
  two
• 2:46
  miles
• 2:46
  down
• 2:46
  the
• 2:47
  creek
• 2:47
  and
• 2:47
  realize
• 2:47
  you
• 2:48
  have
• 2:48
  to
• 2:48
  be
• 2:48
  back
• 2:48
  for
• 2:48
  dinner
• 2:49
  and,
• 2:49
  you
• 2:49
  know,
• 2:49
  a
• 2:50
  half
• 2:50
  hour
• 2:50
  and
• 2:50
  you're
• 2:50
  not
• 2:51
  going
• 2:51
  to
• 2:51
  make
• 2:51
  it,
• 2:51
  you
• 2:51
  know,
• 2:52
  kind
• 2:52
  of
• 2:52
  stuff.
• 2:52
  So,
• 2:54
  yeah,
• 2:55
  whatever
• 2:55
  kind
• 2:55
  of
• 2:55
  outdoor
• 2:56
  adventures
• 2:56
  I
• 2:56
  could
• 2:56
  get
• 2:57
  into,
• 2:57
  I
• 2:57
  always
• 2:58
  tried
• 2:58
  to
• 2:59
  tie
• 2:59
  into,
• 3:00
  you
• 3:01
  know,
• 3:01
  try
• 3:01
  to
• 3:01
  tie
• 3:01
  in
• 3:01
  fish
• 3:02
  into
• 3:02
  that
• 3:02
  stuff.
• 3:03
  Yeah.
• 3:03
  Very,
• 3:03
  very
• 3:04
  neat.
• 3:04
  So
• 3:04
  when
• 3:04
  did
• 3:04
  you
• 3:04
  come
• 3:04
  to
• 3:05
  the
• 3:05
  dark
• 3:05
  side
• 3:05
  of
• 3:05
  fly
• 3:05
  fishing?
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  tried
• 3:09
  it.
• 3:11
  At
• 3:11
  one
• 3:11
  point.
• 3:12
  I
• 3:13
  had
• 3:13
  a
• 3:13
  relative
• 3:13
  from,
• 3:14
  like,
• 3:14
  Texas
• 3:14
  that
• 3:15
  had
• 3:16
  a
• 3:16
  fly
• 3:17
  rod
• 3:17
  or
• 3:17
  something
• 3:17
  that
• 3:18
  he
• 3:18
  brought
• 3:18
  up
• 3:18
  on,
• 3:18
  like,
• 3:19
  a
• 3:19
  family
• 3:19
  trip.
• 3:20
  And
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  noted.
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  saw
• 3:21
  it.
• 3:21
  I.
• 3:21
  And
• 3:21
  I.
• 3:22
  I
• 3:22
  mean,
• 3:22
  I
• 3:22
  tried
• 3:23
  it
• 3:23
  a
• 3:23
  couple
• 3:23
  times,
• 3:24
  and
• 3:26
  I
• 3:26
  feel
• 3:27
  like
• 3:27
  I
• 3:27
  had.
• 3:28
  I
• 3:28
  don't
• 3:28
  remember
• 3:29
  the
• 3:29
  year
• 3:30
  necessarily,
• 3:30
  but
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  definitely
• 3:31
  know,
• 3:32
  like,
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  my
• 3:34
  younger
• 3:34
  years,
• 3:35
  you
• 3:35
  know,
• 3:35
  middle
• 3:36
  school
• 3:36
  age
• 3:37
  is.
• 3:38
  You
• 3:38
  know,
• 3:38
  I've
• 3:38
  tried
• 3:39
  it
• 3:39
  a
• 3:39
  few
• 3:39
  more
• 3:39
  times
• 3:40
  and
• 3:41
  didn't
• 3:41
  really
• 3:41
  pick
• 3:41
  it
• 3:42
  back
• 3:42
  up
• 3:42
  until
• 3:43
  after
• 3:43
  college.
• 3:44
  And
• 3:46
  it
• 3:46
  was
• 3:46
  one
• 3:46
  of
• 3:47
  those
• 3:47
  things
• 3:47
  where
• 3:47
  it
• 3:47
  just
• 3:47
  kind
• 3:47
  of
• 3:48
  set
• 3:48
  the.
• 3:48
  The
• 3:48
  rod
• 3:49
  just
• 3:49
  kind
• 3:49
  of
• 3:49
  sat
• 3:49
  in
• 3:49
  the
• 3:50
  corner,
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  know,
• 3:51
  it
• 3:51
  was
• 3:52
  cool.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:52
  then
• 3:52
  other
• 3:52
  stuff
• 3:53
  got
• 3:53
  cool.
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  grew
• 3:53
  up
• 3:54
  racing
• 3:54
  dirt
• 3:54
  bikes
• 3:55
  and
• 3:55
  got
• 3:55
  into
• 3:56
  cars
• 3:56
  and
• 3:57
  then
• 3:57
  college,
• 3:57
  and,
• 3:58
  you
• 3:58
  know,
• 3:59
  I.
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  picked
• 4:00
  it
• 4:01
  back
• 4:01
  up
• 4:01
  later
• 4:02
  in
• 4:02
  life
• 4:03
  on
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  trip
• 4:04
  down
• 4:04
  to
• 4:07
  Brevard
• 4:08
  and
• 4:09
  fishing
• 4:10
  the
• 4:10
  Davidson
• 4:10
  River.
• 4:12
  That
• 4:13
  kind
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  like,
• 4:13
  re.
• 4:14
  Ignited
• 4:15
  fly
• 4:15
  fishing
• 4:16
  for
• 4:16
  me.
• 4:18
  And
• 4:19
  then
• 4:19
  from
• 4:19
  there,
• 4:19
  it
• 4:19
  was
• 4:19
  kind
• 4:20
  of.
• 4:20
  It
• 4:20
  was
• 4:20
  kind
• 4:20
  of
• 4:21
  on,
• 4:21
  you
• 4:21
  know,
• 4:23
  still.
• 4:24
  I
• 4:24
  still
• 4:24
  do
• 4:24
  some
• 4:24
  spin
• 4:25
  fishing
• 4:25
  from
• 4:25
  time
• 4:25
  to
• 4:26
  time,
• 4:26
  but
• 4:27
  I'm
• 4:28
  about
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  90
• 4:28
  percenter
• 4:29
  when
• 4:29
  it
• 4:29
  comes
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  fly
• 4:30
  fishing.
• 4:31
  Yeah,
• 4:31
  it's
• 4:31
  pretty
• 4:31
  neat.
• 4:32
  The
• 4:32
  Davidson
• 4:32
  is
• 4:32
  probably
• 4:33
  my
• 4:33
  favorite
• 4:34
  river
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  fish
• 4:35
  in
• 4:35
  North
• 4:35
  Carolina.
• 4:36
  Yeah.
• 4:37
  Yeah.
• 4:37
  I
• 4:38
  was.
• 4:38
  It
• 4:38
  was
• 4:38
  on
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  kind
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  whim.
• 4:40
  A
• 4:40
  buddy
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  mine
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  down
• 4:41
  there.
• 4:42
  We
• 4:42
  were
• 4:43
  on
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  trip,
• 4:43
  and,
• 4:44
  you
• 4:44
  know,
• 4:45
  we
• 4:45
  were
• 4:45
  kind
• 4:45
  of.
• 4:46
  We
• 4:46
  have
• 4:46
  been
• 4:46
  talking
• 4:47
  about
• 4:47
  fly
• 4:47
  fishing,
• 4:48
  and
• 4:48
  we
• 4:48
  had
• 4:48
  new
• 4:49
  fly
• 4:49
  fishing
• 4:49
  setups
• 4:50
  that
• 4:50
  we
• 4:50
  were.
• 4:50
  We
• 4:51
  were
• 4:51
  trying
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  plan
• 4:51
  this
• 4:52
  big
• 4:53
  boundary
• 4:53
  water
• 4:54
  trip,
• 4:54
  and
• 4:54
  we
• 4:54
  were
• 4:55
  gonna
• 4:56
  try
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  go
• 4:56
  up
• 4:56
  there
• 4:56
  and,
• 4:57
  you
• 4:57
  know,
• 4:58
  live
• 4:58
  out
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  canoes
• 4:59
  for
• 5:00
  three,
• 5:00
  three
• 5:00
  to
• 5:00
  four
• 5:00
  weeks
• 5:01
  and
• 5:02
  take
• 5:02
  some
• 5:03
  fly
• 5:03
  rods
• 5:03
  with
• 5:03
  us.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:04
  we
• 5:05
  went
• 5:05
  down
• 5:05
  there
• 5:05
  one
• 5:06
  year
• 5:06
  just
• 5:07
  on
• 5:07
  vacation,
• 5:08
  and
• 5:09
  we're
• 5:10
  kind
• 5:10
  of
• 5:10
  like,
• 5:10
  man,
• 5:10
  we
• 5:10
  should
• 5:11
  just
• 5:11
  book
• 5:11
  a
• 5:11
  guide
• 5:11
  trip
• 5:12
  so
• 5:13
  we
• 5:13
  could
• 5:13
  kind
• 5:13
  of
• 5:13
  take
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  crash
• 5:14
  course
• 5:15
  and,
• 5:15
  like,
• 5:15
  learning
• 5:16
  all
• 5:16
  this,
• 5:16
  because
• 5:16
  it's
• 5:17
  like.
• 5:17
  I
• 5:17
  was
• 5:17
  like.
• 5:18
  It's
• 5:18
  way
• 5:18
  different
• 5:18
  from
• 5:18
  when
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  did
• 5:19
  it.
• 5:19
  Did
• 5:19
  I
• 5:20
  come
• 5:20
  up
• 5:21
  and
• 5:22
  we
• 5:22
  met.
• 5:22
  We
• 5:22
  met
• 5:23
  up
• 5:23
  with
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  guide.
• 5:24
  Guide
• 5:25
  down
• 5:25
  there
• 5:25
  by
• 5:25
  the
• 5:26
  name
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  Jeb.
• 5:28
  And
• 5:28
  I
• 5:29
  remember
• 5:29
  we
• 5:29
  showed
• 5:30
  up.
• 5:30
  We
• 5:31
  showed
• 5:31
  up
• 5:31
  and
• 5:32
  look
• 5:32
  like
• 5:32
  noobs,
• 5:33
  probably.
• 5:34
  And,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  know,
• 5:36
  we
• 5:36
  get
• 5:36
  out
• 5:36
  in
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  water,
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  the
• 5:37
  first
• 5:38
  thing
• 5:38
  he
• 5:38
  Said
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  me,
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  us
• 5:39
  is
• 5:39
  said,
• 5:40
  this
• 5:40
  ain't
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  river
• 5:41
  runs
• 5:41
  through
• 5:41
  it,
• 5:41
  and
• 5:42
  woolly
• 5:42
  buggers
• 5:42
  ain't,
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  know,
• 5:44
  he's
• 5:44
  like,
• 5:44
  we're
• 5:44
  not.
• 5:44
  You're
• 5:45
  not
• 5:45
  going
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  be
• 5:45
  waving
• 5:46
  these
• 5:46
  things
• 5:46
  around
• 5:46
  in
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  air
• 5:47
  all
• 5:47
  day
• 5:47
  trying
• 5:47
  to
• 5:48
  make
• 5:48
  false
• 5:48
  casts.
• 5:49
  He's
• 5:49
  like,
• 5:49
  I'm
• 5:49
  going
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  show
• 5:49
  you
• 5:49
  how
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  roll
• 5:50
  cast.
• 5:51
  I'm
• 5:51
  going
• 5:51
  to
• 5:51
  show
• 5:51
  you
• 5:51
  how
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  catch
• 5:52
  some
• 5:52
  fish.
• 5:52
  You.
• 5:53
  And
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  kind
• 5:54
  of.
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  kind
• 5:54
  of
• 5:55
  looked
• 5:55
  at
• 5:55
  my
• 5:55
  buddy.
• 5:55
  I'm
• 5:55
  like,
• 5:56
  this
• 5:56
  guy's
• 5:56
  my
• 5:56
  kind
• 5:56
  of
• 5:57
  people,
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  know?
• 5:57
  So,
• 5:58
  yeah,
• 5:59
  from
• 5:59
  then
• 5:59
  it
• 6:00
  was.
• 6:00
  It
• 6:00
  was
• 6:00
  kind
• 6:00
  of
• 6:01
  on.
• 6:01
  We.
• 6:02
  My
• 6:02
  buddy
• 6:02
  hooked
• 6:03
  into.
• 6:03
  Immediately
• 6:04
  hooked
• 6:04
  into
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  huge
• 6:05
  brown
• 6:05
  trout
• 6:07
  that
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  guide
• 6:09
  kind
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  opened
• 6:10
  his
• 6:10
  eyes
• 6:10
  when
• 6:10
  he
• 6:10
  saw
• 6:10
  it
• 6:11
  jump
• 6:11
  out
• 6:11
  of
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  water
• 6:11
  and
• 6:12
  realized
• 6:12
  it
• 6:12
  was
• 6:12
  a
• 6:12
  big
• 6:13
  one,
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  know,
• 6:13
  and
• 6:14
  we
• 6:14
  caught
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  bunch
• 6:15
  more
• 6:15
  fish
• 6:15
  that
• 6:15
  day.
• 6:16
  And,
• 6:17
  yeah,
• 6:17
  rest
• 6:18
  is
• 6:18
  history.
• 6:19
  Now
• 6:19
  it's
• 6:19
  just
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  challenge
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  getting
• 6:21
  out
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  as
• 6:21
  many
• 6:21
  days
• 6:22
  as
• 6:22
  I
• 6:22
  can
• 6:22
  and
• 6:23
  trying
• 6:24
  to
• 6:24
  learn
• 6:25
  as
• 6:25
  many
• 6:25
  different,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  know,
• 6:26
  styles
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  fishing
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  can.
• 6:28
  So.
• 6:29
  Yeah,
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  bet
• 6:29
  that
• 6:29
  was
• 6:30
  Jeb
• 6:30
  hall
• 6:30
  from
• 6:30
  Davidson
• 6:31
  River
• 6:31
  Outfitters,
• 6:31
  wasn't
• 6:32
  it?
• 6:32
  Oh,
• 6:32
  yeah.
• 6:33
  He's
• 6:33
  a
• 6:33
  bad
• 6:33
  man.
• 6:34
  Yeah,
• 6:34
  I've.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:35
  I've
• 6:36
  known
• 6:36
  those
• 6:36
  guys
• 6:36
  forever,
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  have
• 6:37
  a
• 6:37
  tradition
• 6:38
  with
• 6:39
  my
• 6:39
  boys.
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  take
• 6:40
  them
• 6:40
  fishing
• 6:41
  during
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  Christmas
• 6:41
  holidays,
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  Jeb
• 6:43
  was
• 6:43
  our
• 6:43
  guide
• 6:44
  on
• 6:44
  one
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  those
• 6:45
  trips
• 6:45
  because
• 6:45
  I
• 6:46
  always
• 6:46
  know
• 6:46
  that
• 6:47
  it's
• 6:47
  better
• 6:47
  for
• 6:48
  him
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  work
• 6:48
  with
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  kids
• 6:49
  so
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  don't
• 6:49
  lose
• 6:49
  my
• 6:49
  patience
• 6:50
  when
• 6:50
  they
• 6:50
  were
• 6:50
  younger
• 6:50
  and
• 6:51
  yell
• 6:51
  at
• 6:51
  them
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  ruin
• 6:51
  the
• 6:52
  day.
• 6:52
  So.
• 6:53
  Yep,
• 6:53
  yep.
• 6:54
  Yeah,
• 6:55
  he's
• 6:55
  got
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  lot
• 6:56
  of
• 6:56
  patience,
• 6:57
  and
• 6:57
  he's
• 6:57
  just
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  really
• 6:58
  fishy
• 6:58
  dude.
• 6:59
  So.
• 7:00
  Yeah,
• 7:00
  absolutely.
• 7:00
  Jeb
• 7:01
  is.
• 7:01
  Jeb
• 7:01
  is
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  great
• 7:02
  guy.
• 7:02
  All
• 7:02
  the
• 7:02
  guys
• 7:02
  at
• 7:02
  DRO
• 7:03
  Are
• 7:03
  awesome
• 7:03
  and,
• 7:04
  you
• 7:04
  know,
• 7:05
  so
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  kind
• 7:05
  of
• 7:05
  come
• 7:05
  back
• 7:05
  to
• 7:06
  it
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  little
• 7:06
  bit
• 7:06
  later
• 7:06
  on
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  your
• 7:07
  life,
• 7:07
  you
• 7:08
  know?
• 7:08
  Who
• 7:08
  are
• 7:08
  some
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  folks
• 7:09
  that
• 7:09
  have
• 7:09
  mentored
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  as
• 7:09
  you've
• 7:10
  gotten
• 7:10
  kind
• 7:10
  of
• 7:10
  deeper
• 7:10
  into
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  sport.
• 7:13
  Man,
• 7:14
  Mostly.
• 7:14
  Mostly
• 7:15
  guys
• 7:15
  from
• 7:15
  the
• 7:15
  fly
• 7:16
  fishing
• 7:16
  club
• 7:17
  up
• 7:17
  here.
• 7:17
  The
• 7:17
  Northern
• 7:17
  Kentucky
• 7:18
  fly
• 7:18
  fishers.
• 7:23
  They're
• 7:23
  just.
• 7:25
  There's
• 7:25
  so
• 7:26
  much
• 7:26
  knowledge
• 7:26
  there.
• 7:28
  It's
• 7:28
  an.
• 7:28
  It's
• 7:28
  an
• 7:28
  aging
• 7:29
  club,
• 7:30
  you
• 7:30
  know,
• 7:31
  Mike
• 7:31
  Arnold
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  one
• 7:34
  of
• 7:34
  the
• 7:35
  oldest
• 7:35
  members
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  club,
• 7:36
  and
• 7:38
  he's
• 7:38
  actually
• 7:38
  the
• 7:39
  one
• 7:39
  that
• 7:39
  taught
• 7:39
  me
• 7:40
  how
• 7:40
  to.
• 7:40
  How
• 7:40
  to
• 7:41
  build
• 7:42
  fly
• 7:42
  rods.
• 7:43
  And
• 7:44
  he's
• 7:44
  still
• 7:44
  there.
• 7:44
  He's
• 7:45
  still
• 7:45
  active
• 7:45
  with
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  club.
• 7:46
  He
• 7:46
  still
• 7:46
  teaches
• 7:47
  rod
• 7:47
  building.
• 7:49
  And
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  just
• 7:49
  kind
• 7:49
  of.
• 7:50
  I'm
• 7:51
  one
• 7:51
  of
• 7:51
  those
• 7:51
  dudes.
• 7:51
  Like,
• 7:52
  my
• 7:52
  wife
• 7:52
  knows
• 7:53
  when
• 7:53
  we
• 7:53
  go
• 7:53
  on
• 7:54
  vacation,
• 7:55
  she's
• 7:55
  probably
• 7:56
  gonna.
• 7:56
  I'm
• 7:56
  gonna
• 7:57
  disappear
• 7:57
  for
• 7:57
  a
• 7:58
  Couple
• 7:58
  hours
• 7:58
  and
• 7:59
  she
• 7:59
  can
• 7:59
  always
• 7:59
  probably
• 8:00
  find
• 8:00
  me
• 8:00
  at
• 8:01
  the,
• 8:01
  the
• 8:02
  old
• 8:02
  bait
• 8:02
  shop
• 8:03
  talking
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  old
• 8:04
  crusty,
• 8:05
  salty
• 8:05
  dudes.
• 8:06
  Like
• 8:06
  she
• 8:07
  just
• 8:07
  knows
• 8:07
  that
• 8:07
  she's
• 8:07
  gonna
• 8:08
  lose
• 8:08
  me
• 8:08
  for
• 8:08
  a
• 8:08
  couple
• 8:08
  hours
• 8:09
  to
• 8:09
  those
• 8:09
  dudes.
• 8:10
  You
• 8:10
  know,
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  just
• 8:10
  love
• 8:11
  hearing
• 8:11
  stories
• 8:12
  and
• 8:12
  love
• 8:13
  learning
• 8:13
  and
• 8:15
  those,
• 8:15
  those
• 8:15
  guys
• 8:16
  are
• 8:16
  just
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  wealth
• 8:17
  of
• 8:17
  knowledge.
• 8:17
  And
• 8:19
  yeah,
• 8:20
  they're
• 8:20
  probably
• 8:21
  some
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  my,
• 8:21
  as
• 8:22
  far
• 8:22
  as
• 8:22
  fly
• 8:22
  fishing
• 8:23
  goes,
• 8:23
  like
• 8:24
  some
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  my
• 8:24
  biggest
• 8:25
  mentors
• 8:25
  came
• 8:25
  from
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  NKFF
• 8:26
  for
• 8:27
  sure.
• 8:27
  Yeah.
• 8:28
  It's
• 8:28
  interesting.
• 8:28
  I
• 8:29
  know
• 8:29
  Mike
• 8:29
  Arnold
• 8:30
  from
• 8:30
  my
• 8:30
  time
• 8:30
  is
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  president
• 8:32
  of
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  Southeastern
• 8:34
  council
• 8:34
  of
• 8:34
  fff.
• 8:35
  And
• 8:35
  yeah,
• 8:36
  yeah,
• 8:36
  he's
• 8:36
  a
• 8:37
  great
• 8:37
  guy
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  he
• 8:37
  was
• 8:38
  always,
• 8:39
  he
• 8:39
  know,
• 8:39
  always
• 8:40
  doing
• 8:40
  tons
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  stuff
• 8:41
  with
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  council.
• 8:41
  I
• 8:42
  haven't
• 8:42
  seen
• 8:42
  him
• 8:42
  in
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  long
• 8:42
  time
• 8:43
  because
• 8:43
  the,
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  know,
• 8:44
  the,
• 8:45
  the
• 8:45
  council
• 8:45
  wasn't
• 8:46
  as
• 8:46
  active
• 8:46
  as
• 8:46
  it
• 8:46
  has
• 8:46
  been
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  it's
• 8:47
  kind
• 8:47
  of
• 8:47
  coming
• 8:47
  back.
• 8:48
  But
• 8:48
  yeah,
• 8:48
  he's
• 8:48
  a
• 8:48
  great,
• 8:49
  great
• 8:49
  person
• 8:49
  to
• 8:50
  learn
• 8:50
  from
• 8:50
  for
• 8:50
  sure.
• 8:51
  Yeah.
• 8:51
  Yeah,
• 8:52
  absolutely.
• 8:52
  Yeah.
• 8:53
  And
• 8:53
  so
• 8:53
  kind
• 8:53
  of
• 8:54
  funny,
• 8:54
  right?
• 8:54
  So,
• 8:54
  you
• 8:55
  know,
• 8:55
  Wolf
• 8:55
  Rod
• 8:55
  Company
• 8:55
  is
• 8:56
  almost
• 8:56
  10
• 8:56
  years
• 8:56
  old.
• 8:57
  You
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:58
  you,
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  kind
• 8:58
  of
• 8:58
  get
• 8:58
  into
• 8:59
  fly
• 8:59
  fishing.
• 8:59
  Like,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:00
  what
• 9:00
  makes
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  crazy
• 9:01
  enough
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  want
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  start
• 9:01
  a
• 9:02
  rod
• 9:02
  company?
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  mean,
• 9:04
  in
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  early
• 9:05
  days
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  was
• 9:06
  doing
• 9:06
  custom
• 9:07
  rods.
• 9:07
  So
• 9:07
  I
• 9:08
  started
• 9:08
  doing
• 9:08
  custom
• 9:08
  rods
• 9:09
  in
• 9:09
  2016
• 9:13
  and
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  just
• 9:15
  basically,
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  really
• 9:16
  enjoyed
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  process.
• 9:20
  You
• 9:20
  know,
• 9:21
  my
• 9:21
  background
• 9:22
  in
• 9:22
  design,
• 9:23
  you
• 9:24
  know,
• 9:24
  creating
• 9:25
  things
• 9:25
  has
• 9:25
  always
• 9:25
  been
• 9:26
  something
• 9:27
  that
• 9:27
  I,
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  love
• 9:28
  to
• 9:28
  do.
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  mean,
• 9:29
  even
• 9:29
  in
• 9:29
  my
• 9:29
  full
• 9:30
  time
• 9:30
  job,
• 9:30
  I
• 9:31
  build
• 9:31
  mountain
• 9:31
  bike
• 9:31
  trails
• 9:32
  and
• 9:32
  hiking
• 9:32
  trails
• 9:33
  for
• 9:33
  a
• 9:33
  living.
• 9:33
  So
• 9:34
  we're
• 9:34
  just
• 9:34
  creating
• 9:36
  things
• 9:36
  in
• 9:37
  nature
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  forests
• 9:38
  and
• 9:38
  trying
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  make
• 9:39
  things
• 9:40
  out
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  dirt
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  look
• 9:41
  like
• 9:41
  they've
• 9:42
  been
• 9:42
  there
• 9:42
  for
• 9:42
  10
• 9:43
  years,
• 9:43
  you
• 9:43
  know,
• 9:44
  so,
• 9:47
  so
• 9:47
  yeah,
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  mean,
• 9:48
  started
• 9:49
  doing
• 9:49
  custom
• 9:49
  rods.
• 9:50
  It
• 9:50
  got
• 9:50
  to
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  point
• 9:51
  where
• 9:52
  with
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  full
• 9:52
  time
• 9:53
  job,
• 9:53
  I
• 9:54
  just
• 9:54
  couldn't
• 9:54
  really.
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  hated
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  fact
• 9:55
  that
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  had
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  tell
• 9:56
  people,
• 9:56
  like,
• 9:57
  hey,
• 9:57
  it
• 9:57
  might
• 9:57
  be,
• 9:57
  you
• 9:58
  know,
• 9:58
  four,
• 9:58
  five
• 9:59
  months
• 10:00
  before
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  can
• 10:00
  get
• 10:01
  your
• 10:01
  rod
• 10:01
  done.
• 10:02
  You
• 10:02
  know,
• 10:02
  that
• 10:03
  was
• 10:03
  like
• 10:04
  that
• 10:05
  for
• 10:05
  me.
• 10:05
  That
• 10:05
  was
• 10:06
  like
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  turning
• 10:06
  point
• 10:07
  from
• 10:07
  where
• 10:07
  it
• 10:07
  went
• 10:07
  from
• 10:08
  like
• 10:08
  Dave
• 10:08
  building
• 10:09
  rods
• 10:09
  on
• 10:09
  his
• 10:10
  kitchen
• 10:10
  table
• 10:10
  or
• 10:10
  in
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  basement
• 10:11
  in
• 10:11
  his
• 10:12
  garage,
• 10:12
  whatever,
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  like
• 10:14
  trying
• 10:14
  to
• 10:14
  figure
• 10:14
  out
• 10:14
  like,
• 10:15
  maybe
• 10:15
  this
• 10:15
  needs
• 10:15
  to
• 10:16
  be
• 10:16
  something
• 10:16
  else.
• 10:17
  And
• 10:17
  then
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  icing
• 10:19
  on
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  cake
• 10:19
  for
• 10:20
  me
• 10:21
  for
• 10:21
  the
• 10:22
  actual
• 10:22
  birth
• 10:23
  of
• 10:24
  Wolf
• 10:24
  Rodco
• 10:25
  was
• 10:27
  I
• 10:28
  was
• 10:28
  like,
• 10:29
  I
• 10:30
  started
• 10:30
  fly
• 10:30
  fishing
• 10:31
  for
• 10:31
  Muskie,
• 10:32
  you
• 10:33
  know,
• 10:33
  10
• 10:33
  years
• 10:33
  ago
• 10:34
  or
• 10:34
  something
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  I
• 10:37
  just
• 10:37
  didn't
• 10:37
  enjoy
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  rods.
• 10:38
  I,
• 10:39
  they
• 10:39
  weren't,
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  know,
• 10:40
  I,
• 10:40
  I
• 10:41
  tried,
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  tried
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  few
• 10:43
  and
• 10:43
  they
• 10:43
  just
• 10:44
  like
• 10:44
  some.
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  didn't
• 10:45
  know
• 10:45
  what
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  didn't
• 10:46
  like,
• 10:46
  but
• 10:46
  I
• 10:47
  Knew
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  didn't
• 10:47
  like
• 10:47
  them,
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  know,
• 10:50
  and
• 10:51
  that's
• 10:52
  when
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  kind
• 10:53
  of
• 10:53
  went
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  drawing
• 10:54
  board.
• 10:54
  And
• 10:54
  now,
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  was
• 10:58
  super
• 10:58
  active
• 10:58
  in
• 10:58
  my
• 10:59
  club,
• 11:00
  the,
• 11:01
  you
• 11:01
  know,
• 11:01
  the.
• 11:01
  The
• 11:02
  local
• 11:02
  club.
• 11:03
  And
• 11:04
  we
• 11:04
  were
• 11:04
  getting
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  ton
• 11:05
  of,
• 11:05
  like,
• 11:06
  new
• 11:06
  members
• 11:07
  every
• 11:07
  month.
• 11:07
  Like,
• 11:08
  we
• 11:08
  were
• 11:08
  getting
• 11:08
  like
• 11:09
  10
• 11:09
  or
• 11:09
  12
• 11:10
  new
• 11:10
  members
• 11:10
  showing
• 11:11
  up
• 11:11
  to
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  fly
• 11:12
  club,
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  then
• 11:13
  they
• 11:13
  weren't
• 11:13
  coming
• 11:14
  back.
• 11:15
  So,
• 11:15
  like,
• 11:16
  between.
• 11:17
  There's
• 11:17
  like,
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  little
• 11:17
  culmination
• 11:18
  of,
• 11:19
  you
• 11:19
  know,
• 11:19
  not.
• 11:20
  Not
• 11:20
  loving
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  fly
• 11:21
  rods
• 11:21
  that
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  had
• 11:22
  access
• 11:22
  to,
• 11:24
  seeing
• 11:24
  people
• 11:24
  that
• 11:24
  were
• 11:25
  really
• 11:25
  passionate
• 11:26
  about
• 11:26
  fly
• 11:27
  fishing
• 11:28
  not
• 11:28
  come
• 11:29
  back
• 11:29
  to
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  meetings.
• 11:30
  And
• 11:30
  I
• 11:30
  just
• 11:31
  kind
• 11:31
  of.
• 11:32
  My
• 11:32
  brain
• 11:33
  is
• 11:33
  so
• 11:33
  focused
• 11:34
  on,
• 11:34
  like,
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  better
• 11:36
  mousetrap,
• 11:37
  so
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  speak.
• 11:38
  You
• 11:39
  know,
• 11:39
  I.
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  kind
• 11:39
  of
• 11:40
  put
• 11:40
  my
• 11:40
  head
• 11:40
  down
• 11:40
  and
• 11:41
  realized,
• 11:42
  like,
• 11:42
  most
• 11:42
  of
• 11:42
  the
• 11:43
  people
• 11:43
  were
• 11:43
  going
• 11:43
  to
• 11:44
  our
• 11:44
  local
• 11:44
  shop,
• 11:46
  they
• 11:46
  were
• 11:47
  trying
• 11:47
  on
• 11:47
  waiters,
• 11:48
  they
• 11:48
  were
• 11:49
  doing
• 11:49
  all
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  stuff
• 11:49
  that.
• 11:50
  That
• 11:50
  they
• 11:50
  were
• 11:51
  taught
• 11:51
  to
• 11:51
  do,
• 11:51
  you
• 11:52
  know,
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  get
• 11:52
  set
• 11:53
  up.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  then
• 11:53
  they'd
• 11:53
  go
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  rods
• 11:54
  and
• 11:56
  they'd
• 11:56
  put
• 11:56
  a
• 11:56
  Thomas
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  Thomas
• 11:57
  in
• 11:57
  front
• 11:58
  of
• 11:58
  them,
• 11:58
  and
• 11:58
  they'd
• 11:58
  be
• 11:59
  like,
• 11:59
  holy
• 11:59
  crap,
• 11:59
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:00
  like.
• 12:01
  Like,
• 12:01
  I'm
• 12:02
  going
• 12:02
  to
• 12:02
  be
• 12:02
  spending,
• 12:02
  like,
• 12:02
  $2,000
• 12:03
  to
• 12:04
  go
• 12:04
  fly
• 12:05
  fishing.
• 12:05
  And
• 12:05
  then,
• 12:06
  you
• 12:06
  know,
• 12:07
  it
• 12:07
  was
• 12:07
  kind
• 12:07
  of
• 12:07
  like
• 12:08
  they
• 12:08
  just.
• 12:09
  I'm
• 12:09
  fine
• 12:10
  with
• 12:10
  just
• 12:10
  spin
• 12:10
  fishing.
• 12:11
  You
• 12:11
  know,
• 12:11
  they
• 12:11
  didn't
• 12:11
  know
• 12:12
  another
• 12:12
  way.
• 12:13
  Um,
• 12:14
  so
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  was
• 12:16
  a
• 12:16
  little
• 12:16
  bit
• 12:16
  of
• 12:17
  rod
• 12:17
  performance.
• 12:18
  I
• 12:18
  wanted
• 12:18
  something
• 12:18
  that
• 12:19
  wasn't,
• 12:19
  you
• 12:19
  know,
• 12:20
  necessarily
• 12:21
  super
• 12:21
  popular
• 12:21
  at
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  time.
• 12:22
  Um,
• 12:23
  and
• 12:24
  then
• 12:24
  price.
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  wanted
• 12:25
  to
• 12:26
  be
• 12:26
  able
• 12:26
  to
• 12:26
  provide
• 12:27
  a
• 12:28
  rod
• 12:28
  that
• 12:28
  had
• 12:29
  really
• 12:30
  good
• 12:30
  quality
• 12:30
  at
• 12:31
  an
• 12:31
  affordable
• 12:31
  cost
• 12:32
  so
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  people
• 12:32
  could
• 12:33
  actually
• 12:33
  get
• 12:33
  out
• 12:33
  and
• 12:34
  enjoy
• 12:35
  fishing
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  not
• 12:36
  be
• 12:36
  stressed
• 12:36
  about
• 12:37
  saving
• 12:37
  money
• 12:37
  to
• 12:38
  buy
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  fly
• 12:38
  rod.
• 12:39
  Yeah,
• 12:40
  got
• 12:40
  it.
• 12:40
  And
• 12:40
  so,
• 12:40
  you
• 12:40
  know,
• 12:41
  tell
• 12:41
  me
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  little
• 12:41
  bit.
• 12:41
  You
• 12:41
  know,
• 12:42
  you
• 12:42
  were
• 12:42
  saying
• 12:42
  there
• 12:42
  was
• 12:42
  something
• 12:43
  specifically
• 12:43
  you
• 12:43
  didn't
• 12:44
  like
• 12:44
  in
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  musky
• 12:44
  sticks
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  were
• 12:45
  fishing.
• 12:46
  So
• 12:46
  tell
• 12:46
  me,
• 12:46
  like,
• 12:47
  how
• 12:47
  that
• 12:47
  translated
• 12:48
  into
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  style
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  feel
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  wolf
• 12:50
  rodco
• 12:51
  rides.
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  just.
• 12:53
  They.
• 12:55
  They
• 12:55
  were
• 12:55
  really
• 12:56
  stiff
• 12:57
  and
• 12:58
  didn't
• 12:59
  handle
• 12:59
  musky
• 13:00
  flies
• 13:00
  well,
• 13:01
  you
• 13:01
  know,
• 13:01
  and
• 13:02
  at
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  time,
• 13:03
  I
• 13:04
  didn't
• 13:04
  know
• 13:04
  why,
• 13:05
  because
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  didn't
• 13:05
  know
• 13:05
  enough
• 13:06
  about
• 13:06
  fly
• 13:06
  rod
• 13:07
  design.
• 13:07
  I
• 13:07
  just
• 13:07
  knew
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  didn't
• 13:08
  like
• 13:08
  it.
• 13:08
  And
• 13:09
  when
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  don't
• 13:09
  like
• 13:09
  something,
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  try
• 13:10
  to
• 13:10
  figure
• 13:10
  out
• 13:11
  how
• 13:11
  to
• 13:11
  make
• 13:11
  it
• 13:12
  work.
• 13:13
  You
• 13:13
  know,
• 13:13
  I
• 13:14
  can
• 13:14
  work
• 13:14
  with
• 13:14
  anything,
• 13:15
  but
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  know,
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  know
• 13:16
  what
• 13:16
  I
• 13:16
  want
• 13:17
  and
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  know
• 13:18
  what
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  don't
• 13:18
  like,
• 13:19
  you
• 13:19
  know,
• 13:19
  And
• 13:20
  I
• 13:21
  think
• 13:21
  part
• 13:21
  of
• 13:21
  it
• 13:21
  is
• 13:22
  the
• 13:23
  long
• 13:23
  time
• 13:24
  frame
• 13:25
  from
• 13:25
  when
• 13:25
  I
• 13:25
  learned
• 13:26
  how
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  fly
• 13:26
  fish
• 13:26
  to
• 13:27
  where
• 13:27
  I
• 13:27
  picked
• 13:27
  it
• 13:27
  back
• 13:27
  up
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  where,
• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  know,
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  just
• 13:31
  remember
• 13:32
  as
• 13:32
  a
• 13:33
  Kid
• 13:33
  and
• 13:34
  you
• 13:34
  know,
• 13:35
  being
• 13:35
  younger,
• 13:36
  how
• 13:36
  much
• 13:37
  feeling
• 13:37
  and
• 13:38
  like
• 13:39
  soul
• 13:40
  a
• 13:40
  flyer
• 13:40
  I'd
• 13:41
  had,
• 13:41
  like,
• 13:41
  that
• 13:42
  was
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  thing
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  loved
• 13:42
  about
• 13:43
  it
• 13:44
  is
• 13:44
  you
• 13:44
  could
• 13:44
  feel
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  fish,
• 13:45
  you
• 13:46
  could
• 13:46
  feel
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  cast
• 13:47
  when
• 13:47
  you
• 13:48
  caught
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  fish,
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  could
• 13:48
  feel
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  fight.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:52
  these
• 13:52
  new,
• 13:52
  these,
• 13:53
  these
• 13:53
  fly
• 13:53
  rods
• 13:54
  I
• 13:54
  was
• 13:54
  using
• 13:54
  for
• 13:54
  muskie,
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  know,
• 13:55
  they're
• 13:56
  looking
• 13:57
  at
• 13:57
  it
• 13:57
  now.
• 13:57
  They
• 13:57
  were
• 13:58
  just
• 13:58
  essentially
• 13:58
  rebranded
• 13:59
  saltwater
• 14:00
  rods
• 14:00
  that
• 14:01
  weren't
• 14:01
  made
• 14:01
  to
• 14:02
  throw
• 14:02
  wet
• 14:02
  socks,
• 14:03
  you
• 14:03
  know,
• 14:04
  at,
• 14:04
  at
• 14:04
  tree
• 14:05
  stumps.
• 14:05
  They
• 14:06
  just,
• 14:06
  they
• 14:06
  were
• 14:07
  made
• 14:07
  for
• 14:07
  throwing
• 14:07
  little
• 14:08
  flies
• 14:08
  through
• 14:08
  wind.
• 14:09
  They
• 14:09
  had
• 14:09
  a
• 14:09
  lot
• 14:09
  of
• 14:10
  tip
• 14:10
  feel
• 14:11
  and
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  was
• 14:11
  about
• 14:11
  it.
• 14:12
  And
• 14:12
  that's
• 14:12
  just
• 14:13
  not
• 14:13
  what
• 14:14
  I,
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  know,
• 14:15
  I,
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  went
• 14:16
  back
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  the
• 14:16
  drawing
• 14:16
  board
• 14:17
  and
• 14:17
  wanted
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  really,
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  wanted
• 14:19
  to
• 14:20
  provide
• 14:21
  a,
• 14:21
  a
• 14:21
  really
• 14:22
  mid
• 14:22
  flex
• 14:22
  heavy
• 14:23
  rod
• 14:24
  that
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  could
• 14:24
  cast
• 14:25
  day
• 14:25
  in
• 14:25
  and
• 14:26
  day
• 14:26
  out
• 14:26
  for
• 14:26
  an
• 14:26
  entire
• 14:27
  four
• 14:27
  day
• 14:27
  trip
• 14:28
  and
• 14:28
  not
• 14:28
  wear
• 14:29
  yourself
• 14:29
  out.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:31
  it
• 14:31
  would
• 14:31
  be
• 14:31
  built
• 14:32
  like
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  tank
• 14:33
  and
• 14:35
  affordable.
• 14:35
  And
• 14:36
  that's
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  Riverwolf,
• 14:37
  one
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  our
• 14:38
  rods,
• 14:38
  the
• 14:39
  11
• 14:39
  weight,
• 14:40
  that
• 14:40
  was
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  first
• 14:41
  rod
• 14:41
  that
• 14:41
  I
• 14:41
  actually
• 14:42
  developed
• 14:43
  was
• 14:44
  an
• 14:44
  11
• 14:44
  weight,
• 14:45
  which
• 14:45
  is
• 14:46
  probably
• 14:46
  not
• 14:47
  something
• 14:47
  most
• 14:47
  flop
• 14:48
  companies
• 14:49
  start
• 14:49
  with,
• 14:49
  but
• 14:50
  that's
• 14:51
  where
• 14:51
  I
• 14:51
  went.
• 14:51
  So.
• 14:53
  Yeah,
• 14:53
  it's
• 14:53
  interesting
• 14:54
  too
• 14:54
  because
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  think
• 14:54
  having
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  little
• 14:55
  bit
• 14:55
  more
• 14:55
  feel
• 14:56
  in
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  rod
• 14:56
  certainly
• 14:57
  helps
• 14:57
  from
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  timing
• 14:58
  perspective.
• 14:59
  And
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  know,
• 15:00
  because
• 15:00
  you
• 15:00
  feel
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  rod
• 15:01
  better
• 15:01
  and
• 15:01
  it
• 15:01
  makes
• 15:01
  it,
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  think,
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  know,
• 15:03
  fishing
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  rod
• 15:04
  with
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  little
• 15:04
  bit
• 15:05
  more
• 15:05
  sole
• 15:06
  actually
• 15:06
  makes
• 15:06
  it
• 15:07
  more
• 15:07
  pleasant
• 15:07
  because
• 15:07
  you
• 15:07
  don't
• 15:07
  have
• 15:08
  to
• 15:08
  sit
• 15:08
  there
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  watch
• 15:08
  what's
• 15:08
  happening
• 15:09
  because
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  can
• 15:09
  feel
• 15:09
  what's
• 15:10
  happening.
• 15:11
  Yep,
• 15:11
  yep.
• 15:13
  So,
• 15:13
  you
• 15:13
  know,
• 15:13
  you
• 15:14
  have
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  background
• 15:14
  in
• 15:14
  industrial
• 15:15
  design.
• 15:15
  Tell
• 15:16
  me
• 15:16
  a
• 15:16
  little
• 15:16
  bit
• 15:16
  about
• 15:16
  how
• 15:17
  that
• 15:17
  kind
• 15:17
  of
• 15:17
  works
• 15:17
  its
• 15:18
  way
• 15:18
  kind
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  into
• 15:19
  your,
• 15:19
  your
• 15:19
  ride
• 15:19
  designs
• 15:20
  and
• 15:20
  your,
• 15:21
  your
• 15:21
  manufacturing
• 15:22
  process.
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  mean
• 15:25
  for
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  most
• 15:25
  part
• 15:26
  I,
• 15:26
  I
• 15:27
  probably
• 15:27
  did
• 15:27
  things
• 15:28
  really
• 15:28
  backwards
• 15:29
  from
• 15:29
  like
• 15:29
  what
• 15:29
  a
• 15:29
  traditional
• 15:30
  fly
• 15:30
  rod
• 15:31
  company
• 15:31
  would
• 15:31
  do.
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  just
• 15:34
  ordering
• 15:34
  blanks,
• 15:36
  figuring
• 15:36
  out
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  ones
• 15:37
  that
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  really
• 15:37
  liked,
• 15:37
  figuring
• 15:38
  out
• 15:38
  like
• 15:38
  learning
• 15:39
  about
• 15:39
  tapers
• 15:39
  and
• 15:40
  learning
• 15:40
  about
• 15:40
  mandrels.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:43
  I,
• 15:43
  I
• 15:44
  designed
• 15:44
  the
• 15:44
  first
• 15:45
  few
• 15:45
  ones
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  my
• 15:46
  rods.
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  designed
• 15:46
  them
• 15:47
  out
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  feel
• 15:48
  like
• 15:48
  reverse
• 15:49
  engineering
• 15:49
  them
• 15:50
  essentially
• 15:50
  off
• 15:51
  of
• 15:51
  like
• 15:51
  blanks
• 15:52
  that
• 15:52
  I
• 15:52
  would
• 15:52
  just
• 15:52
  order
• 15:53
  from
• 15:53
  a
• 15:53
  catalog,
• 15:54
  you
• 15:54
  know,
• 15:54
  until
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  found
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  ones
• 15:55
  that
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  liked,
• 15:56
  you
• 15:56
  know,
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  then
• 15:57
  from
• 15:58
  there,
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  know,
• 15:59
  doing
• 15:59
  some
• 16:00
  measurements,
• 16:01
  figuring
• 16:01
  out
• 16:01
  what,
• 16:01
  what
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  liked
• 16:02
  about
• 16:02
  them
• 16:03
  and
• 16:03
  what
• 16:03
  they,
• 16:03
  what
• 16:03
  made
• 16:04
  them,
• 16:04
  you
• 16:04
  know,
• 16:04
  react
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  way
• 16:05
  they
• 16:05
  did.
• 16:06
  Not
• 16:07
  having
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  background
• 16:09
  fly
• 16:09
  fishing
• 16:10
  wise,
• 16:10
  but
• 16:10
  having
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  industrial
• 16:12
  design
• 16:12
  background
• 16:12
  to
• 16:13
  kind
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  know
• 16:14
  like
• 16:15
  how
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  take
• 16:16
  something
• 16:16
  apart
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  dissect
• 16:17
  it
• 16:18
  and
• 16:18
  really
• 16:18
  like
• 16:19
  figure
• 16:19
  it
• 16:20
  out.
• 16:21
  That's
• 16:21
  what,
• 16:22
  that's
• 16:22
  kind
• 16:22
  of
• 16:22
  where
• 16:22
  the
• 16:23
  influence
• 16:23
  part
• 16:24
  comes
• 16:24
  in
• 16:24
  is,
• 16:25
  you
• 16:25
  know,
• 16:25
  obviously
• 16:26
  like
• 16:26
  people,
• 16:27
  people
• 16:27
  know
• 16:27
  us
• 16:28
  from
• 16:28
  our
• 16:28
  colors.
• 16:30
  Our
• 16:30
  colors
• 16:30
  are
• 16:30
  definitely
• 16:31
  stand
• 16:31
  out
• 16:32
  against
• 16:32
  the
• 16:33
  crowd.
• 16:34
  And
• 16:34
  that
• 16:34
  was
• 16:34
  another
• 16:35
  thing.
• 16:35
  The
• 16:35
  industrial
• 16:36
  design
• 16:37
  side
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  me
• 16:37
  was
• 16:38
  like,
• 16:38
  like,
• 16:39
  if
• 16:39
  I'm
• 16:39
  going
• 16:39
  to
• 16:39
  come
• 16:39
  out
• 16:40
  here
• 16:40
  and
• 16:41
  I'm
• 16:41
  going
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  come
• 16:41
  out
• 16:41
  swinging
• 16:42
  against
• 16:42
  all
• 16:42
  these
• 16:43
  big
• 16:43
  companies,
• 16:43
  I,
• 16:43
  I
• 16:44
  got
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  not
• 16:44
  look
• 16:45
  like
• 16:45
  all
• 16:45
  those
• 16:45
  big
• 16:45
  companies.
• 16:46
  You
• 16:46
  know,
• 16:46
  if
• 16:47
  I
• 16:47
  come
• 16:47
  out
• 16:47
  with
• 16:47
  the,
• 16:48
  you
• 16:48
  know,
• 16:49
  a
• 16:49
  standard
• 16:50
  green
• 16:50
  rod
• 16:50
  with
• 16:51
  black
• 16:51
  wraps
• 16:51
  or
• 16:52
  a
• 16:52
  black
• 16:52
  rod
• 16:53
  with
• 16:53
  gray
• 16:53
  wraps,
• 16:54
  like
• 16:54
  I'm
• 16:55
  going
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  get
• 16:55
  lost
• 16:55
  in
• 16:55
  the
• 16:56
  crowd
• 16:56
  real
• 16:56
  quick,
• 16:57
  you
• 16:57
  know.
• 16:58
  Yeah.
• 16:59
  Plus
• 16:59
  it
• 16:59
  helps,
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  know,
• 17:00
  when
• 17:00
  people
• 17:00
  bump
• 17:00
  into
• 17:01
  people
• 17:01
  fishing
• 17:01
  your
• 17:01
  rods
• 17:02
  on
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  water
• 17:02
  and
• 17:02
  they're
• 17:02
  like,
• 17:03
  well,
• 17:03
  what's
• 17:03
  that
• 17:03
  kind
• 17:03
  of
• 17:03
  lime
• 17:04
  green
• 17:04
  rod?
• 17:04
  Who
• 17:04
  made
• 17:05
  that?
• 17:05
  Right?
• 17:06
  Yep,
• 17:06
  absolutely.
• 17:07
  I
• 17:07
  mean,
• 17:08
  and
• 17:08
  it's
• 17:08
  great.
• 17:08
  Like
• 17:09
  we've
• 17:09
  been
• 17:09
  a
• 17:10
  major
• 17:10
  supporter
• 17:10
  of
• 17:11
  like
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  Beast
• 17:11
  of
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  east
• 17:12
  tournament
• 17:13
  for
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  last
• 17:13
  four
• 17:14
  years
• 17:14
  or
• 17:14
  five
• 17:15
  years
• 17:15
  now.
• 17:15
  And
• 17:17
  it's
• 17:17
  cool
• 17:18
  being
• 17:18
  on
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  water
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  a
• 17:19
  tournament
• 17:19
  setting
• 17:20
  and
• 17:21
  seeing
• 17:21
  a
• 17:22
  bunch
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  our
• 17:22
  like
• 17:23
  blue
• 17:24
  12
• 17:24
  weights
• 17:25
  with
• 17:25
  bright
• 17:26
  orange
• 17:26
  wraps
• 17:27
  standing
• 17:27
  up
• 17:27
  in
• 17:27
  a
• 17:28
  rod
• 17:28
  tube,
• 17:28
  like
• 17:28
  going,
• 17:29
  you
• 17:29
  know,
• 17:29
  flying
• 17:30
  down
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  river,
• 17:30
  you
• 17:30
  know,
• 17:30
  you
• 17:30
  can
• 17:31
  see
• 17:31
  them
• 17:31
  right
• 17:31
  away.
• 17:33
  Yeah.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:34
  it's
• 17:34
  just,
• 17:34
  it's
• 17:34
  just,
• 17:35
  it's,
• 17:35
  it's
• 17:35
  been
• 17:36
  cool.
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  mean,
• 17:37
  I've
• 17:37
  had
• 17:37
  a
• 17:38
  lot
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  really
• 17:38
  great
• 17:38
  feedback.
• 17:39
  People
• 17:40
  like,
• 17:40
  really
• 17:40
  like
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  rods,
• 17:41
  you
• 17:42
  know,
• 17:42
  and
• 17:43
  even
• 17:43
  at
• 17:43
  trade
• 17:44
  shows
• 17:44
  and
• 17:44
  stuff,
• 17:45
  you
• 17:45
  surprisingly
• 17:46
  had
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  good
• 17:48
  amount
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  older
• 17:50
  folks
• 17:50
  that
• 17:53
  voice
• 17:53
  their
• 17:53
  opinions
• 17:54
  positively
• 17:56
  that
• 17:56
  they're
• 17:56
  like,
• 17:56
  man,
• 17:57
  these
• 17:57
  things
• 17:57
  look
• 17:58
  so
• 17:58
  great.
• 17:59
  Sometimes
• 17:59
  those
• 17:59
  other
• 18:00
  rods,
• 18:00
  Rods
• 18:00
  just
• 18:01
  got
• 18:01
  really
• 18:01
  boring,
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  know,
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  I'm
• 18:02
  like,
• 18:03
  dude,
• 18:04
  coming
• 18:04
  from
• 18:04
  like
• 18:04
  a
• 18:05
  78
• 18:05
  year
• 18:06
  old
• 18:06
  dude,
• 18:06
  that's
• 18:06
  kind
• 18:07
  of,
• 18:07
  that's
• 18:07
  pretty
• 18:07
  cool,
• 18:07
  you
• 18:08
  know.
• 18:08
  So,
• 18:10
  yeah,
• 18:10
  absolutely.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:11
  I
• 18:11
  would,
• 18:11
  I
• 18:12
  wonder
• 18:12
  too.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:12
  I
• 18:13
  was
• 18:13
  kind
• 18:13
  of
• 18:13
  curious.
• 18:14
  So
• 18:14
  have
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  found
• 18:15
  people
• 18:15
  making
• 18:16
  blanks
• 18:16
  that
• 18:16
  you
• 18:17
  like
• 18:17
  or
• 18:17
  have
• 18:17
  you
• 18:18
  gotten
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  designing
• 18:19
  tapers
• 18:20
  that
• 18:20
  you
• 18:20
  like
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  you
• 18:20
  have
• 18:20
  people
• 18:20
  making
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  blanks
• 18:21
  for
• 18:22
  you?
• 18:22
  So
• 18:23
  I,
• 18:23
  I,
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  have
• 18:24
  a
• 18:24
  factory
• 18:25
  overseas.
• 18:26
  They
• 18:26
  have,
• 18:27
  they
• 18:27
  have
• 18:27
  their
• 18:27
  own
• 18:28
  full
• 18:28
  R
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  D
• 18:29
  facility
• 18:31
  and
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  basically
• 18:35
  utilize
• 18:36
  their
• 18:36
  R
• 18:37
  D
• 18:37
  facility
• 18:38
  to
• 18:38
  produce
• 18:39
  me
• 18:39
  tapers
• 18:40
  that
• 18:40
  I,
• 18:40
  that
• 18:41
  I
• 18:41
  want
• 18:42
  in
• 18:42
  the
• 18:43
  beginning.
• 18:43
  It
• 18:43
  might
• 18:44
  like
• 18:44
  the,
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  11
• 18:45
  weight.
• 18:47
  I
• 18:47
  think
• 18:47
  I
• 18:47
  built
• 18:50
  10
• 18:50
  or
• 18:51
  11
• 18:51
  rods
• 18:53
  before.
• 18:53
  I
• 18:53
  was
• 18:53
  like,
• 18:53
  this
• 18:54
  is
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  one.
• 18:57
  I've
• 18:57
  used
• 18:57
  the
• 18:58
  same
• 18:58
  shop
• 18:59
  from
• 18:59
  day
• 18:59
  one
• 19:00
  when
• 19:00
  I
• 19:00
  went,
• 19:00
  when
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  decided
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  go
• 19:01
  factory
• 19:02
  built.
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  still
• 19:05
  build
• 19:05
  all
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  originals
• 19:08
  and
• 19:09
  I've
• 19:10
  got
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  really
• 19:10
  good
• 19:10
  working
• 19:11
  relationship
• 19:11
  with
• 19:11
  them.
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  can
• 19:12
  at
• 19:13
  this
• 19:13
  point,
• 19:13
  I
• 19:13
  can
• 19:13
  kind
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  tell
• 19:14
  them
• 19:14
  what
• 19:14
  tweaks
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  want
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  make
• 19:16
  and
• 19:16
  they'll
• 19:16
  send
• 19:16
  me
• 19:16
  a
• 19:17
  blank
• 19:17
  to
• 19:17
  test.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  know,
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  last
• 19:20
  two
• 19:21
  or
• 19:21
  three,
• 19:23
  man,
• 19:23
  they,
• 19:23
  they
• 19:23
  nail
• 19:24
  them,
• 19:24
  dude,
• 19:24
  straight
• 19:25
  out
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  gate.
• 19:25
  That
• 19:26
  like
• 19:26
  I.
• 19:27
  Our
• 19:27
  communication's
• 19:28
  so
• 19:28
  good
• 19:28
  after
• 19:29
  5
• 19:29
  years
• 19:30
  been
• 19:30
  dealing
• 19:30
  with
• 19:30
  the
• 19:31
  same
• 19:31
  person
• 19:31
  in
• 19:32
  the
• 19:32
  company
• 19:34
  and
• 19:34
  it's
• 19:34
  been
• 19:34
  great.
• 19:35
  They
• 19:35
  own
• 19:35
  all
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  mandrels.
• 19:38
  And
• 19:38
  that's
• 19:39
  just
• 19:39
  a
• 19:39
  cost
• 19:39
  thing
• 19:40
  for
• 19:40
  me
• 19:40
  right
• 19:40
  now.
• 19:41
  Like,
• 19:42
  it's
• 19:42
  not
• 19:42
  super
• 19:42
  important
• 19:43
  for
• 19:43
  me
• 19:43
  to
• 19:43
  own
• 19:43
  the
• 19:43
  mandrel.
• 19:45
  It's
• 19:45
  more
• 19:45
  important
• 19:46
  for
• 19:46
  me
• 19:46
  to
• 19:46
  have
• 19:46
  access
• 19:47
  to
• 19:47
  a
• 19:47
  full
• 19:47
  R
• 19:48
  D
• 19:48
  facility
• 19:49
  that
• 19:49
  can
• 19:49
  tweak,
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  know,
• 19:50
  tapers
• 19:51
  and
• 19:52
  do
• 19:52
  things
• 19:52
  that
• 19:52
  I
• 19:53
  want
• 19:53
  because
• 19:54
  I
• 19:54
  don't
• 19:54
  have
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  ability
• 19:55
  to.
• 19:55
  To
• 19:56
  build
• 19:56
  my
• 19:56
  own,
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  know,
• 19:57
  facility
• 19:58
  like
• 19:58
  that
• 19:58
  yet.
• 19:59
  So
• 20:00
  they
• 20:00
  do,
• 20:01
  they
• 20:01
  do
• 20:01
  all
• 20:01
  that.
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  do
• 20:02
  all
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  specs
• 20:03
  and
• 20:03
  then
• 20:03
  I'll
• 20:04
  blueprint.
• 20:04
  I'll.
• 20:05
  I'll
• 20:05
  blueprint
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  rod.
• 20:06
  Once
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  get
• 20:06
  it
• 20:07
  where
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  want
• 20:07
  it,
• 20:08
  I'll
• 20:08
  spec
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  taper
• 20:09
  that
• 20:10
  they.
• 20:10
  That's
• 20:10
  the.
• 20:10
  Whatever
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  final
• 20:11
  revision
• 20:12
  is.
• 20:12
  I'll
• 20:12
  spec
• 20:12
  that
• 20:13
  and
• 20:13
  then
• 20:13
  I'll
• 20:14
  spec
• 20:14
  everything
• 20:14
  down
• 20:15
  to
• 20:16
  thread
• 20:17
  wrap
• 20:17
  color,
• 20:19
  you
• 20:19
  know,
• 20:19
  spacing
• 20:20
  guides,
• 20:22
  cork
• 20:22
  grade,
• 20:23
  you
• 20:24
  know,
• 20:24
  rating
• 20:25
  grain,
• 20:25
  grain
• 20:26
  window,
• 20:26
  the
• 20:27
  whole
• 20:27
  deal
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  then
• 20:28
  do
• 20:29
  all
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  artwork
• 20:29
  for
• 20:30
  them.
• 20:30
  And
• 20:32
  it's
• 20:32
  a,
• 20:33
  it's
• 20:33
  a
• 20:33
  cool
• 20:33
  process.
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  enjoy
• 20:37
  it.
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  really
• 20:37
  do
• 20:37
  enjoy
• 20:38
  it.
• 20:39
  You
• 20:39
  know,
• 20:40
  the
• 20:41
  first
• 20:41
  few
• 20:41
  rods
• 20:41
  that
• 20:42
  I
• 20:42
  developed
• 20:42
  were
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  really,
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  know,
• 20:44
  the
• 20:45
  5
• 20:45
  weight,
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  7
• 20:46
  weight
• 20:46
  and
• 20:46
  our
• 20:46
  11
• 20:47
  weight,
• 20:48
  they
• 20:49
  have
• 20:49
  like
• 20:49
  that
• 20:49
  more
• 20:50
  mid
• 20:50
  flex
• 20:51
  feel.
• 20:52
  Really
• 20:52
  got
• 20:52
  a
• 20:52
  ton
• 20:53
  of
• 20:53
  soul
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  them
• 20:55
  and
• 20:55
  just
• 20:55
  kind
• 20:55
  of
• 20:56
  take
• 20:56
  you
• 20:56
  back
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  your
• 20:57
  roots
• 20:57
  cast
• 20:57
  kind
• 20:58
  of
• 20:58
  feeling.
• 20:59
  But
• 21:00
  then,
• 21:00
  you
• 21:00
  know,
• 21:01
  I've
• 21:01
  got
• 21:01
  some
• 21:01
  other
• 21:01
  rods
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  have
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  little
• 21:02
  bit
• 21:02
  more
• 21:03
  action
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  them
• 21:03
  and
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  little
• 21:05
  wider,
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  little
• 21:05
  faster,
• 21:07
  you
• 21:07
  know,
• 21:08
  so
• 21:08
  there's
• 21:08
  a
• 21:09
  little
• 21:09
  bit
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  everything
• 21:09
  that
• 21:09
  every
• 21:10
  one
• 21:10
  of
• 21:10
  our
• 21:10
  rods
• 21:11
  isn't
• 21:11
  built
• 21:11
  on
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  same
• 21:12
  taper
• 21:13
  or
• 21:14
  blank
• 21:14
  material.
• 21:15
  So
• 21:16
  very
• 21:16
  neat.
• 21:17
  And
• 21:17
  so,
• 21:17
  you
• 21:17
  know,
• 21:17
  it's
• 21:18
  kind
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  interesting
• 21:18
  hearing
• 21:18
  you
• 21:18
  talk
• 21:19
  about
• 21:19
  having
• 21:19
  stuff
• 21:20
  made
• 21:20
  overseas.
• 21:20
  How
• 21:21
  are
• 21:21
  you
• 21:21
  dealing
• 21:22
  with
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  tariff
• 21:22
  stuff
• 21:23
  right
• 21:23
  now?
• 21:24
  So
• 21:25
  far
• 21:25
  so
• 21:25
  good.
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  know
• 21:26
  some
• 21:27
  companies
• 21:27
  are
• 21:27
  having
• 21:27
  a
• 21:28
  little
• 21:28
  harder
• 21:28
  time
• 21:28
  than
• 21:28
  we
• 21:29
  are.
• 21:30
  It's
• 21:31
  the,
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  biggest
• 21:32
  hurdle
• 21:33
  for
• 21:33
  us
• 21:33
  has
• 21:33
  been
• 21:35
  freight
• 21:35
  costs.
• 21:36
  The
• 21:36
  freight
• 21:36
  companies
• 21:36
  are
• 21:37
  really
• 21:37
  dinging
• 21:37
  you.
• 21:39
  Their
• 21:39
  freight
• 21:40
  costs
• 21:40
  have
• 21:40
  doubled
• 21:41
  over
• 21:41
  what
• 21:42
  they
• 21:42
  were,
• 21:43
  which,
• 21:44
  you
• 21:44
  know,
• 21:44
  is
• 21:45
  unfortunate.
• 21:46
  I
• 21:46
  think
• 21:46
  they're
• 21:46
  trying
• 21:46
  to
• 21:47
  take
• 21:47
  advantage
• 21:48
  of
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  situation
• 21:49
  more
• 21:50
  than.
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  mean,
• 21:50
  the
• 21:51
  costs
• 21:51
  haven't
• 21:51
  gone
• 21:51
  up
• 21:51
  that
• 21:52
  much
• 21:52
  for
• 21:52
  them.
• 21:52
  It's
• 21:52
  just.
• 21:54
  They
• 21:55
  see
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  chink
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  the
• 21:56
  armor
• 21:56
  and
• 21:56
  they
• 21:56
  go
• 21:56
  for
• 21:56
  the
• 21:57
  throw.
• 21:57
  Right.
• 21:57
  So.
• 21:58
  So.
• 21:59
  Well,
• 21:59
  let's,
• 22:00
  let's
• 22:00
  hope
• 22:00
  that
• 22:01
  that
• 22:01
  gets
• 22:01
  better.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  terror
• 22:02
  Stuff
• 22:03
  doesn't
• 22:03
  cause
• 22:03
  you
• 22:03
  any,
• 22:04
  any
• 22:04
  lost
• 22:05
  sleep,
• 22:05
  right?
• 22:06
  Yeah,
• 22:06
  man,
• 22:06
  I'm,
• 22:07
  I'm
• 22:07
  gonna,
• 22:08
  you
• 22:08
  know,
• 22:08
  we
• 22:09
  had
• 22:09
  a
• 22:09
  few
• 22:09
  questions
• 22:10
  about
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  this
• 22:10
  year
• 22:10
  at
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  trade
• 22:11
  shows
• 22:11
  and
• 22:12
  things.
• 22:12
  And
• 22:12
  I
• 22:13
  just
• 22:13
  kind
• 22:13
  of
• 22:13
  told
• 22:13
  them,
• 22:13
  you
• 22:14
  know,
• 22:14
  like,
• 22:14
  we
• 22:14
  know
• 22:15
  our
• 22:15
  numbers.
• 22:16
  We're
• 22:17
  gonna
• 22:17
  try
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  hold
• 22:17
  steadfast
• 22:19
  as
• 22:20
  far
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  long
• 22:20
  as
• 22:20
  we
• 22:21
  can
• 22:21
  to
• 22:22
  our
• 22:22
  current
• 22:22
  pricing.
• 22:26
  And,
• 22:26
  you
• 22:26
  know,
• 22:26
  if
• 22:26
  we
• 22:27
  got
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  make
• 22:27
  changes,
• 22:27
  we
• 22:28
  do.
• 22:28
  But
• 22:29
  for
• 22:29
  now,
• 22:29
  we're,
• 22:30
  you
• 22:30
  know,
• 22:30
  my
• 22:31
  wife
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  I
• 22:31
  are,
• 22:32
  are
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  entire
• 22:33
  company
• 22:33
  and
• 22:34
  we're
• 22:34
  both,
• 22:35
  we're
• 22:35
  both
• 22:35
  comfortable
• 22:35
  with
• 22:36
  where
• 22:36
  we're
• 22:36
  at
• 22:37
  and
• 22:38
  we
• 22:38
  want
• 22:38
  to
• 22:38
  try
• 22:38
  to.
• 22:39
  I'd
• 22:39
  rather
• 22:40
  get
• 22:40
  more
• 22:40
  hand,
• 22:40
  more
• 22:41
  rods
• 22:41
  out
• 22:41
  in
• 22:41
  people's
• 22:42
  hands
• 22:42
  fishing
• 22:42
  than
• 22:43
  pad
• 22:44
  my
• 22:44
  pockets
• 22:44
  more.
• 22:45
  So.
• 22:46
  Yeah.
• 22:46
  And
• 22:46
  so,
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  know,
• 22:47
  kind
• 22:47
  of
• 22:47
  help
• 22:48
  us,
• 22:48
  help
• 22:48
  me
• 22:48
  kind
• 22:48
  of,
• 22:49
  you
• 22:49
  know,
• 22:50
  help
• 22:50
  our
• 22:50
  listeners
• 22:50
  kind
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  understand
• 22:51
  what
• 22:51
  differentiates
• 22:52
  your
• 22:52
  rods,
• 22:53
  you
• 22:53
  know,
• 22:53
  in
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  sense
• 22:53
  of,
• 22:54
  you
• 22:54
  know,
• 22:54
  you're
• 22:55
  at
• 22:55
  a
• 22:55
  great
• 22:55
  price
• 22:55
  point.
• 22:56
  How
• 22:56
  do
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  compare
• 22:57
  to
• 22:58
  like
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  super
• 22:58
  high
• 22:58
  price
• 22:59
  points
• 22:59
  in
• 22:59
  terms
• 22:59
  of
• 23:00
  performance
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  warranties
• 23:01
  and
• 23:01
  things
• 23:01
  like
• 23:02
  that?
• 23:02
  And
• 23:02
  then
• 23:02
  similarly
• 23:03
  to
• 23:03
  kind
• 23:03
  of
• 23:03
  come
• 23:03
  down,
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  know,
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  think
• 23:04
  one
• 23:04
  of
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  things
• 23:05
  that
• 23:05
  like,
• 23:05
  for
• 23:06
  example,
• 23:06
  TFO
• 23:07
  really
• 23:07
  did
• 23:08
  in
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  fly
• 23:08
  rod
• 23:08
  business
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  based
• 23:10
  basically
• 23:10
  made
• 23:10
  everyone
• 23:11
  start
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  make,
• 23:12
  you
• 23:12
  know,
• 23:12
  for
• 23:12
  lack
• 23:13
  of
• 23:13
  a
• 23:13
  better
• 23:13
  word,
• 23:13
  like
• 23:13
  an
• 23:13
  entry,
• 23:14
  mid
• 23:14
  level
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  high
• 23:15
  level
• 23:15
  rod.
• 23:15
  You
• 23:15
  know,
• 23:15
  how
• 23:16
  do
• 23:16
  you
• 23:16
  kind
• 23:16
  of
• 23:16
  compare
• 23:17
  to,
• 23:17
  you
• 23:18
  know,
• 23:18
  other
• 23:19
  kind
• 23:19
  of,
• 23:19
  you
• 23:19
  know,
• 23:20
  entry
• 23:20
  level
• 23:20
  rods
• 23:21
  from
• 23:21
  other
• 23:21
  manufacturers?
• 23:23
  Yeah,
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  mean,
• 23:25
  you
• 23:25
  know,
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  beauty,
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  beauty
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  it
• 23:27
  is
• 23:28
  we're
• 23:29
  so
• 23:29
  new
• 23:30
  that
• 23:31
  our
• 23:32
  biggest
• 23:32
  hurdle
• 23:33
  is
• 23:33
  getting
• 23:33
  our
• 23:34
  name
• 23:34
  in
• 23:34
  front
• 23:34
  of
• 23:35
  people.
• 23:36
  Our
• 23:36
  rods
• 23:37
  perform
• 23:38
  very,
• 23:38
  very
• 23:39
  well.
• 23:40
  And
• 23:40
  most
• 23:41
  people
• 23:41
  that
• 23:42
  test
• 23:42
  cast
• 23:43
  one
• 23:43
  of
• 23:43
  our
• 23:43
  rods
• 23:43
  at
• 23:44
  a
• 23:44
  trade
• 23:44
  show,
• 23:46
  their,
• 23:46
  their
• 23:46
  immediate
• 23:47
  response
• 23:47
  is
• 23:48
  this
• 23:48
  rod
• 23:49
  tests
• 23:49
  or
• 23:50
  this
• 23:50
  rod
• 23:50
  casts
• 23:51
  as
• 23:51
  good
• 23:51
  as
• 23:51
  X,
• 23:51
  Y
• 23:52
  or
• 23:52
  Z,
• 23:53
  you
• 23:53
  know,
• 23:53
  which
• 23:53
  are
• 23:53
  typically
• 23:54
  all
• 23:55
  four
• 23:55
  to
• 23:56
  five
• 23:56
  hundred
• 23:57
  dollar
• 23:57
  rods,
• 23:58
  you
• 23:58
  know,
• 24:00
  and
• 24:00
  then
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  other
• 24:01
  thing
• 24:02
  is
• 24:02
  like,
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  can't
• 24:03
  believe
• 24:03
  it's.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  can't
• 24:04
  believe
• 24:04
  this.
• 24:05
  You're
• 24:05
  selling
• 24:05
  these
• 24:05
  rods
• 24:06
  for
• 24:06
  this
• 24:06
  much,
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  know,
• 24:08
  and
• 24:08
  we've
• 24:09
  got
• 24:09
  about
• 24:09
  a
• 24:10
  75%
• 24:12
  conversion
• 24:13
  rate
• 24:13
  at
• 24:13
  trade
• 24:13
  shows.
• 24:14
  If
• 24:14
  we're
• 24:15
  at
• 24:15
  a
• 24:15
  trade
• 24:15
  show
• 24:16
  that
• 24:16
  has
• 24:16
  a,
• 24:18
  has
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  casting
• 24:19
  lane
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  the
• 24:21
  availability
• 24:21
  for
• 24:21
  people
• 24:22
  to
• 24:22
  pick
• 24:22
  a
• 24:22
  rod
• 24:22
  up
• 24:23
  and
• 24:23
  go
• 24:23
  cast
• 24:23
  it,
• 24:23
  about
• 24:24
  75%
• 24:25
  of
• 24:25
  those
• 24:25
  people
• 24:25
  come
• 24:25
  back
• 24:25
  and
• 24:26
  buy
• 24:26
  a
• 24:26
  rod.
• 24:27
  So
• 24:28
  I
• 24:29
  think
• 24:29
  that
• 24:29
  we're
• 24:29
  doing
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  right
• 24:30
  thing.
• 24:31
  We've
• 24:31
  grown
• 24:32
  organically.
• 24:33
  I've
• 24:34
  been
• 24:34
  a
• 24:34
  super
• 24:34
  big
• 24:35
  proponent
• 24:35
  from
• 24:35
  day
• 24:36
  one.
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  don't,
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  don't
• 24:38
  believe
• 24:38
  in
• 24:39
  flash
• 24:39
  in
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  pan
• 24:39
  marketing.
• 24:40
  I
• 24:41
  want
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  grow
• 24:41
  organically
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  slowly.
• 24:43
  Word
• 24:43
  of
• 24:44
  mouth
• 24:44
  is
• 24:44
  you
• 24:45
  know,
• 24:45
  word
• 24:46
  of
• 24:46
  mouth
• 24:46
  is
• 24:46
  still
• 24:46
  king
• 24:47
  no
• 24:47
  matter
• 24:47
  what.
• 24:47
  You
• 24:48
  know,
• 24:48
  we,
• 24:48
  we
• 24:49
  don't
• 24:49
  buy,
• 24:49
  we
• 24:49
  don't
• 24:50
  buy
• 24:50
  likes,
• 24:50
  we
• 24:50
  don't
• 24:51
  buy
• 24:51
  followers
• 24:53
  and
• 24:53
  we,
• 24:53
  you
• 24:54
  know,
• 24:54
  we
• 24:54
  put
• 24:54
  our
• 24:54
  money
• 24:54
  where
• 24:55
  our
• 24:55
  mouth
• 24:55
  is.
• 24:55
  And
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  think,
• 24:57
  you
• 24:57
  know,
• 24:58
  from
• 24:58
  a
• 24:58
  rod's
• 24:59
  perspective,
• 24:59
  you
• 25:00
  know,
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  lot
• 25:01
  of
• 25:02
  our,
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  lot
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  our
• 25:04
  250,
• 25:05
  $250
• 25:05
  plus
• 25:06
  rods
• 25:06
  are
• 25:07
  built
• 25:07
  on
• 25:07
  Fuji
• 25:08
  Alkanite
• 25:08
  guides.
• 25:10
  Really
• 25:10
  good
• 25:10
  modulus
• 25:12
  blanks.
• 25:14
  You
• 25:14
  know,
• 25:15
  the,
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  componentry
• 25:17
  is
• 25:17
  there.
• 25:17
  You
• 25:17
  can
• 25:18
  see
• 25:18
  it
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  feel
• 25:18
  it.
• 25:19
  Another
• 25:20
  cool
• 25:20
  thing
• 25:20
  for
• 25:21
  us,
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  know,
• 25:22
  from
• 25:22
  a
• 25:23
  sales
• 25:23
  perspective,
• 25:24
  everything,
• 25:26
  everything
• 25:27
  six
• 25:27
  weight
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  above
• 25:28
  comes
• 25:28
  with
• 25:28
  an
• 25:28
  extra
• 25:29
  tip
• 25:29
  in
• 25:29
  the,
• 25:29
  in
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  rod
• 25:30
  tube.
• 25:32
  Part
• 25:32
  of
• 25:33
  my
• 25:33
  reasoning
• 25:34
  for
• 25:34
  that
• 25:34
  is
• 25:36
  just
• 25:36
  because
• 25:37
  I've
• 25:37
  been
• 25:38
  on
• 25:38
  trips
• 25:38
  before
• 25:39
  where
• 25:39
  I
• 25:39
  did
• 25:39
  something
• 25:39
  stupid
• 25:40
  and
• 25:40
  broke
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  tip
• 25:41
  and
• 25:41
  it
• 25:42
  just
• 25:42
  ruined
• 25:42
  my
• 25:42
  trip
• 25:43
  because
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  was
• 25:43
  just
• 25:43
  bombed,
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  know,
• 25:44
  so
• 25:45
  having
• 25:45
  an
• 25:46
  extra
• 25:46
  one
• 25:47
  there,
• 25:49
  you
• 25:49
  know,
• 25:50
  it,
• 25:51
  it's
• 25:52
  not,
• 25:52
  it's
• 25:52
  not
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  huge
• 25:53
  thing,
• 25:53
  but
• 25:53
  it's
• 25:54
  something,
• 25:54
  it's,
• 25:54
  it's
• 25:55
  a
• 25:55
  nod
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  let
• 25:55
  people
• 25:56
  know
• 25:56
  like,
• 25:56
  hey
• 25:56
  man,
• 25:57
  like
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  grew
• 25:58
  up,
• 25:58
  you
• 25:59
  know,
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  grew
• 26:00
  up
• 26:01
  fishing
• 26:01
  and
• 26:01
  traveling
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  fishing
• 26:02
  and
• 26:04
  I'm
• 26:05
  trying,
• 26:05
  we're
• 26:05
  trying
• 26:05
  to
• 26:05
  think
• 26:06
  through
• 26:06
  all
• 26:06
  those
• 26:06
  little
• 26:06
  details.
• 26:07
  You
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:09
  another
• 26:10
  really
• 26:11
  big
• 26:11
  thing
• 26:11
  that
• 26:12
  we
• 26:12
  do
• 26:12
  that
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  lot
• 26:12
  of
• 26:13
  companies
• 26:13
  don't
• 26:13
  do,
• 26:14
  we
• 26:15
  do
• 26:15
  not
• 26:15
  replace
• 26:16
  sections
• 26:16
  of
• 26:16
  a
• 26:17
  rod.
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  just
• 26:19
  don't,
• 26:19
  don't
• 26:19
  agree
• 26:20
  with
• 26:20
  it.
• 26:21
  I've
• 26:21
  never
• 26:22
  had
• 26:22
  a
• 26:22
  good
• 26:22
  experience
• 26:23
  with
• 26:24
  trying
• 26:24
  to
• 26:24
  get
• 26:24
  one
• 26:25
  section
• 26:25
  replaced
• 26:25
  on
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  rod.
• 26:27
  The
• 26:27
  rod
• 26:27
  just
• 26:28
  has
• 26:28
  never
• 26:28
  felt
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  same
• 26:30
  ever
• 26:30
  again.
• 26:31
  So
• 26:31
  if
• 26:32
  one
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  our
• 26:32
  customers
• 26:33
  breaks
• 26:33
  a
• 26:33
  rod,
• 26:35
  there
• 26:36
  is
• 26:36
  a
• 26:37
  replacement
• 26:38
  fee,
• 26:39
  65
• 26:40
  plus
• 26:40
  shipping.
• 26:41
  And
• 26:41
  you
• 26:41
  know,
• 26:42
  if
• 26:42
  it's
• 26:42
  on
• 26:42
  their
• 26:42
  side,
• 26:43
  if
• 26:43
  they
• 26:43
  smash
• 26:44
  it
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  a
• 26:44
  car
• 26:44
  door
• 26:45
  or
• 26:45
  something,
• 26:46
  $65
• 26:47
  plus
• 26:47
  shipping,
• 26:47
  they're
• 26:48
  getting
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  brand
• 26:48
  new
• 26:49
  fly
• 26:49
  rod
• 26:50
  shipped
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  their
• 26:50
  door.
• 26:53
  So,
• 26:53
  and
• 26:53
  if
• 26:53
  it's
• 26:53
  something
• 26:54
  on
• 26:54
  our
• 26:54
  end,
• 26:55
  you
• 26:55
  know,
• 26:56
  a
• 26:56
  guy,
• 26:56
  they
• 26:57
  have
• 26:57
  a
• 26:57
  guide
• 26:57
  failure
• 26:58
  or
• 26:58
  something
• 26:58
  happens
• 26:59
  that
• 26:59
  we
• 26:59
  can
• 27:00
  identify
• 27:00
  as
• 27:01
  a
• 27:01
  quality
• 27:02
  issue,
• 27:02
  then
• 27:03
  we
• 27:03
  ship
• 27:03
  them
• 27:03
  a
• 27:03
  brand
• 27:03
  new
• 27:04
  rod
• 27:04
  on
• 27:04
  our
• 27:04
  dime.
• 27:05
  So
• 27:06
  I
• 27:06
  think
• 27:07
  that's
• 27:07
  something
• 27:07
  that's
• 27:07
  kind
• 27:08
  of
• 27:08
  unheard
• 27:08
  of
• 27:08
  in
• 27:08
  the
• 27:09
  industry.
• 27:10
  Most
• 27:10
  people
• 27:11
  don't
• 27:11
  know
• 27:11
  that's
• 27:12
  our
• 27:12
  policy
• 27:13
  just
• 27:13
  because
• 27:13
  we're
• 27:14
  so
• 27:14
  small
• 27:14
  still.
• 27:15
  But
• 27:16
  it's
• 27:16
  just
• 27:16
  another
• 27:17
  thing
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  we
• 27:17
  do
• 27:18
  to
• 27:18
  try
• 27:18
  to
• 27:18
  get
• 27:18
  people
• 27:19
  back
• 27:19
  out
• 27:19
  fishing
• 27:20
  quickly
• 27:21
  and
• 27:21
  not
• 27:22
  have
• 27:22
  ongoing
• 27:23
  problems
• 27:23
  with
• 27:23
  a
• 27:24
  rod
• 27:24
  that
• 27:25
  they
• 27:25
  have,
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  know,
• 27:26
  three
• 27:27
  sections
• 27:27
  that
• 27:27
  are
• 27:28
  two
• 27:28
  years
• 27:28
  old
• 27:28
  and
• 27:28
  then
• 27:28
  one
• 27:29
  section
• 27:29
  that's
• 27:29
  brand
• 27:30
  new.
• 27:31
  It's
• 27:32
  just,
• 27:32
  it's
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  philosophy
• 27:33
  that
• 27:34
  we're
• 27:34
  going
• 27:34
  to
• 27:34
  stick
• 27:34
  with
• 27:36
  and
• 27:37
  you
• 27:37
  know,
• 27:38
  it's
• 27:39
  Obviously
• 27:39
  not
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  best
• 27:41
  financial
• 27:41
  model,
• 27:42
  but
• 27:44
  we're,
• 27:45
  we're
• 27:45
  willing
• 27:45
  to
• 27:45
  put
• 27:45
  our
• 27:46
  money
• 27:46
  where
• 27:46
  our
• 27:46
  mouth
• 27:46
  is
• 27:47
  and
• 27:47
  we
• 27:48
  want
• 27:48
  people
• 27:48
  to
• 27:48
  be
• 27:48
  happy
• 27:49
  with
• 27:49
  our
• 27:49
  product
• 27:49
  and
• 27:50
  get
• 27:50
  back
• 27:50
  out
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  fishing.
• 27:52
  Yeah.
• 27:52
  It's
• 27:52
  funny
• 27:52
  you
• 27:52
  say
• 27:53
  that.
• 27:53
  We
• 27:53
  should
• 27:53
  have
• 27:54
  a
• 27:54
  few
• 27:54
  beers
• 27:54
  sometime
• 27:55
  and
• 27:55
  talk
• 27:55
  about
• 27:55
  organic,
• 27:56
  Organic
• 27:57
  growth.
• 27:57
  Cause
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  think
• 27:58
  that's,
• 27:59
  I
• 27:59
  actually
• 28:00
  think
• 28:00
  it's
• 28:00
  a
• 28:00
  superpower
• 28:01
  in
• 28:01
  this
• 28:01
  day
• 28:01
  and
• 28:01
  age.
• 28:02
  And
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  think
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  more
• 28:02
  and
• 28:02
  more
• 28:03
  we
• 28:03
  see
• 28:03
  technology,
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  think
• 28:04
  it's
• 28:04
  going
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  be
• 28:05
  more
• 28:05
  and
• 28:05
  more
• 28:05
  important
• 28:06
  for,
• 28:07
  for
• 28:08
  real
• 28:08
  companies
• 28:08
  to
• 28:08
  grow
• 28:09
  their
• 28:09
  businesses.
• 28:10
  Yeah,
• 28:11
  I,
• 28:11
  I
• 28:11
  mean,
• 28:13
  I
• 28:13
  think
• 28:13
  that
• 28:14
  a
• 28:14
  man's
• 28:15
  word
• 28:15
  is
• 28:16
  always
• 28:16
  going
• 28:17
  to
• 28:17
  be
• 28:17
  valuable,
• 28:18
  you
• 28:18
  know,
• 28:19
  and
• 28:19
  organic
• 28:20
  growth
• 28:20
  is
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  lot
• 28:20
  like
• 28:21
  that.
• 28:22
  Organic
• 28:22
  growth
• 28:23
  to
• 28:23
  me
• 28:23
  is
• 28:23
  kind
• 28:23
  of
• 28:23
  like
• 28:24
  a
• 28:24
  man's
• 28:24
  handshake.
• 28:25
  Right.
• 28:25
  So
• 28:27
  it's
• 28:27
  not
• 28:28
  something,
• 28:28
  you
• 28:29
  know,
• 28:29
  if,
• 28:29
  if
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  stand
• 28:30
  behind
• 28:30
  it
• 28:30
  and
• 28:31
  you
• 28:31
  stand
• 28:31
  behind
• 28:31
  your
• 28:32
  product
• 28:32
  and
• 28:32
  you
• 28:32
  do
• 28:33
  what
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  say
• 28:33
  you're
• 28:34
  going
• 28:34
  to
• 28:34
  do.
• 28:34
  And
• 28:36
  I,
• 28:36
  I
• 28:36
  think
• 28:36
  it's.
• 28:37
  Yeah.
• 28:37
  I
• 28:38
  mean,
• 28:38
  in
• 28:38
  this
• 28:38
  world
• 28:39
  of
• 28:39
  AI
• 28:39
  and
• 28:40
  all
• 28:40
  this
• 28:40
  other
• 28:40
  stuff,
• 28:40
  like,
• 28:41
  people
• 28:41
  can
• 28:41
  create
• 28:41
  fake
• 28:42
  things,
• 28:42
  but
• 28:43
  if
• 28:44
  you're
• 28:44
  a
• 28:44
  human
• 28:44
  doing
• 28:45
  good
• 28:46
  things
• 28:46
  and
• 28:47
  being
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  good
• 28:48
  person
• 28:49
  and
• 28:50
  creating
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  good
• 28:51
  brand
• 28:51
  and
• 28:51
  sticking
• 28:52
  behind
• 28:52
  it,
• 28:52
  like,
• 28:53
  they
• 28:54
  can't
• 28:54
  take
• 28:54
  that
• 28:54
  away
• 28:54
  from
• 28:55
  you.
• 28:55
  So.
• 28:56
  Yeah,
• 28:57
  and
• 28:57
  I've
• 28:57
  never
• 28:57
  understood
• 28:58
  this
• 28:58
  whole
• 28:58
  game
• 28:58
  of
• 28:58
  buying
• 28:59
  followers.
• 28:59
  Like,
• 29:00
  I
• 29:00
  just,
• 29:00
  it
• 29:00
  just
• 29:01
  makes
• 29:01
  no.
• 29:01
  Sense
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  me,
• 29:03
  man.
• 29:03
  When
• 29:04
  you
• 29:04
  start
• 29:04
  putting
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  dollar
• 29:05
  figure
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  it,
• 29:06
  that's
• 29:06
  what,
• 29:07
  that's,
• 29:07
  that's
• 29:07
  how
• 29:07
  they
• 29:07
  make
• 29:08
  it
• 29:08
  make
• 29:08
  sense,
• 29:08
  you
• 29:09
  know,
• 29:10
  that's
• 29:10
  where
• 29:10
  it
• 29:10
  went
• 29:11
  wrong,
• 29:11
  you
• 29:11
  know,
• 29:12
  so
• 29:13
  every
• 29:13
  10,000
• 29:14
  followers
• 29:14
  you
• 29:15
  get
• 29:15
  is
• 29:15
  a
• 29:16
  dollar
• 29:16
  amount
• 29:16
  and
• 29:17
  that's,
• 29:18
  that's
• 29:18
  when
• 29:18
  things
• 29:19
  kind
• 29:20
  of
• 29:20
  go,
• 29:20
  go
• 29:20
  askew
• 29:21
  a
• 29:21
  little
• 29:21
  bit.
• 29:22
  Yeah,
• 29:22
  it's
• 29:22
  interesting.
• 29:23
  So,
• 29:23
  like,
• 29:23
  in
• 29:23
  my
• 29:24
  world,
• 29:24
  you
• 29:24
  know,
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  know,
• 29:27
  I,
• 29:27
  I
• 29:27
  don't
• 29:28
  believe
• 29:28
  in
• 29:28
  buying
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  listeners
• 29:29
  and
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  followers
• 29:30
  because
• 29:30
  when
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  go
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  sell
• 29:31
  advertising,
• 29:31
  you
• 29:31
  want
• 29:32
  to
• 29:32
  sell
• 29:32
  people
• 29:32
  real
• 29:32
  engagement.
• 29:33
  Right.
• 29:35
  It's
• 29:35
  also
• 29:35
  too,
• 29:36
  like,
• 29:36
  I,
• 29:36
  you
• 29:36
  know,
• 29:37
  I
• 29:37
  don't
• 29:37
  know
• 29:37
  how
• 29:37
  you
• 29:38
  feel
• 29:38
  about
• 29:38
  promotions
• 29:38
  and
• 29:39
  things
• 29:39
  like
• 29:39
  that,
• 29:39
  but
• 29:39
  I'm
• 29:40
  very
• 29:41
  promotion
• 29:42
  averse
• 29:43
  unless
• 29:43
  it's
• 29:43
  got
• 29:44
  a
• 29:44
  really
• 29:44
  good
• 29:44
  kind
• 29:45
  of
• 29:45
  reason
• 29:45
  behind
• 29:46
  it.
• 29:46
  Because
• 29:46
  I
• 29:46
  think,
• 29:47
  you
• 29:47
  know,
• 29:47
  my,
• 29:48
  my
• 29:48
  feeling
• 29:48
  is
• 29:48
  people
• 29:49
  understand
• 29:49
  what
• 29:49
  free
• 29:50
  means.
• 29:51
  And
• 29:51
  you're
• 29:52
  not
• 29:52
  really
• 29:52
  testing
• 29:53
  anything
• 29:53
  other
• 29:53
  than
• 29:53
  people
• 29:53
  that
• 29:54
  are
• 29:54
  looking
• 29:54
  for,
• 29:54
  you
• 29:55
  know,
• 29:55
  free
• 29:55
  tires,
• 29:56
  basically.
• 29:57
  Yeah,
• 29:58
  Yeah.
• 29:58
  I
• 29:58
  mean,
• 29:59
  we're,
• 29:59
  we're
• 29:59
  kind
• 30:00
  of
• 30:00
  similar
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  that.
• 30:00
  I
• 30:01
  mean,
• 30:01
  we,
• 30:02
  we
• 30:02
  get
• 30:02
  people,
• 30:03
  you
• 30:03
  know,
• 30:03
  do
• 30:04
  you,
• 30:04
  do
• 30:04
  you
• 30:04
  have
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  pro
• 30:04
  staff?
• 30:05
  And,
• 30:05
  you
• 30:05
  know,
• 30:06
  I
• 30:06
  kind
• 30:06
  of
• 30:06
  always
• 30:06
  tell
• 30:06
  them
• 30:07
  like,
• 30:07
  like
• 30:07
  everyone's,
• 30:08
  you
• 30:08
  know,
• 30:09
  like
• 30:09
  our,
• 30:10
  our
• 30:10
  rod
• 30:10
  prices
• 30:10
  are
• 30:11
  pretty
• 30:11
  affordable.
• 30:13
  And
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  know,
• 30:14
  when
• 30:14
  you
• 30:14
  buy
• 30:14
  a
• 30:14
  rod,
• 30:14
  you
• 30:15
  become
• 30:15
  a
• 30:15
  member
• 30:15
  of
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  wolf
• 30:16
  pack,
• 30:16
  and
• 30:16
  the
• 30:16
  wolf
• 30:17
  packs
• 30:17
  are
• 30:17
  pro
• 30:17
  staff.
• 30:18
  You
• 30:18
  know,
• 30:18
  like,
• 30:19
  we've
• 30:19
  got,
• 30:20
  we've
• 30:20
  got
• 30:21
  folks
• 30:21
  in
• 30:21
  Canada
• 30:22
  and
• 30:22
  in
• 30:22
  America
• 30:23
  here
• 30:23
  in
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  North
• 30:23
  America,
• 30:24
  too.
• 30:24
  Like,
• 30:25
  they
• 30:26
  bought
• 30:26
  one
• 30:26
  rod,
• 30:26
  and
• 30:27
  within
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  year,
• 30:28
  they
• 30:28
  own
• 30:28
  every
• 30:28
  rod
• 30:28
  we
• 30:29
  make,
• 30:29
  you
• 30:30
  know,
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  like,
• 30:30
  they
• 30:31
  paid
• 30:31
  full
• 30:31
  price
• 30:31
  for
• 30:31
  all
• 30:32
  of
• 30:32
  them.
• 30:32
  And
• 30:32
  like,
• 30:33
  when
• 30:33
  we
• 30:33
  went
• 30:33
  to
• 30:34
  Canada
• 30:34
  for
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  Toronto
• 30:35
  Sportsman
• 30:35
  show
• 30:36
  this
• 30:36
  year,
• 30:38
  two
• 30:39
  customers
• 30:40
  that
• 30:40
  I
• 30:40
  met
• 30:40
  at
• 30:40
  a
• 30:41
  fly
• 30:41
  fishing
• 30:42
  Muskie
• 30:42
  tournament
• 30:43
  in
• 30:43
  2019,
• 30:45
  they
• 30:45
  took,
• 30:46
  they
• 30:46
  took
• 30:46
  days
• 30:47
  off
• 30:47
  to
• 30:48
  come
• 30:48
  work
• 30:48
  the
• 30:49
  booth
• 30:49
  with
• 30:49
  us.
• 30:51
  Like,
• 30:52
  just
• 30:53
  surprised
• 30:53
  me.
• 30:54
  Like,
• 30:54
  they
• 30:54
  didn't,
• 30:55
  you
• 30:55
  know,
• 30:55
  they're
• 30:55
  like,
• 30:55
  oh,
• 30:56
  if.
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  just
• 30:57
  thought
• 30:57
  they
• 30:57
  meant,
• 30:58
  like,
• 30:58
  they
• 30:58
  were
• 30:58
  going
• 30:58
  to
• 30:58
  come
• 30:58
  hang
• 30:59
  out
• 30:59
  or,
• 30:59
  like,
• 31:00
  see
• 31:00
  us.
• 31:01
  Like,
• 31:01
  they're
• 31:01
  like,
• 31:01
  no,
• 31:02
  we
• 31:02
  took
• 31:02
  the,
• 31:02
  we
• 31:02
  took
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  days
• 31:03
  off
• 31:03
  to
• 31:03
  come
• 31:04
  help
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  work
• 31:05
  the
• 31:05
  booth,
• 31:05
  you
• 31:06
  know,
• 31:06
  like
• 31:07
  taking
• 31:07
  people
• 31:08
  over
• 31:08
  to
• 31:08
  the
• 31:08
  casting
• 31:09
  lane
• 31:09
  to,
• 31:09
  like,
• 31:10
  teach
• 31:10
  them
• 31:10
  how
• 31:10
  to
• 31:11
  cast
• 31:11
  and
• 31:11
  fly,
• 31:12
  you
• 31:12
  know,
• 31:12
  like
• 31:13
  work
• 31:13
  with
• 31:13
  kids
• 31:14
  and
• 31:14
  things.
• 31:14
  Because
• 31:15
  they
• 31:15
  just
• 31:15
  knew,
• 31:15
  like,
• 31:15
  we
• 31:15
  were
• 31:16
  going
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  be
• 31:16
  inundated
• 31:16
  with
• 31:17
  people.
• 31:17
  I
• 31:17
  think,
• 31:17
  like
• 31:17
  70,000
• 31:18
  people
• 31:18
  came
• 31:19
  through
• 31:19
  that
• 31:19
  show
• 31:19
  in
• 31:20
  four
• 31:20
  days.
• 31:21
  So,
• 31:22
  like,
• 31:24
  that's
• 31:24
  something
• 31:24
  you
• 31:25
  can't
• 31:25
  buy.
• 31:26
  Yeah,
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  would
• 31:27
  say,
• 31:27
  too.
• 31:27
  I
• 31:27
  mean,
• 31:27
  it's,
• 31:28
  it's
• 31:28
  the,
• 31:29
  the
• 31:29
  real
• 31:29
  power
• 31:29
  of
• 31:29
  it
• 31:30
  is,
• 31:30
  you
• 31:30
  know,
• 31:30
  plenty
• 31:31
  of
• 31:31
  people
• 31:31
  will
• 31:31
  fish
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  wear
• 31:32
  stuff
• 31:32
  that
• 31:33
  people
• 31:33
  give
• 31:33
  them
• 31:33
  for
• 31:33
  free.
• 31:34
  Yep.
• 31:35
  Right.
• 31:36
  And
• 31:36
  so,
• 31:36
  you
• 31:36
  know,
• 31:37
  kind
• 31:37
  of
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  that
• 31:37
  point,
• 31:37
  like,
• 31:38
  I'm
• 31:38
  a
• 31:38
  big
• 31:38
  believer.
• 31:38
  Like,
• 31:39
  I
• 31:39
  just
• 31:39
  tell
• 31:39
  people,
• 31:39
  like,
• 31:39
  this
• 31:40
  is
• 31:40
  what
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  spend
• 31:40
  my
• 31:40
  money
• 31:41
  on.
• 31:42
  Right.
• 31:43
  And
• 31:43
  I
• 31:43
  think
• 31:43
  that's
• 31:44
  a
• 31:44
  very,
• 31:44
  very
• 31:44
  powerful
• 31:45
  brand
• 31:45
  testimony.
• 31:47
  Yeah,
• 31:47
  I
• 31:47
  think
• 31:48
  so,
• 31:48
  too.
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  mean,
• 31:49
  and,
• 31:49
  you
• 31:49
  know,
• 31:49
  we
• 31:50
  have
• 31:50
  started
• 31:50
  trying
• 31:51
  to
• 31:51
  mess
• 31:51
  with
• 31:51
  the,
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  guide
• 31:53
  side
• 31:54
  of
• 31:54
  things
• 31:55
  to
• 31:55
  try
• 31:55
  to
• 31:56
  get
• 31:57
  our
• 31:57
  name
• 31:57
  out
• 31:57
  there
• 31:58
  more.
• 31:59
  But,
• 31:59
  you
• 32:00
  know,
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  grew,
• 32:00
  I
• 32:01
  grew
• 32:01
  up
• 32:01
  racing
• 32:01
  motorcycles
• 32:02
  and
• 32:02
  bicycles,
• 32:03
  too,
• 32:04
  and
• 32:04
  I've
• 32:05
  run
• 32:05
  teams
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  done
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  team
• 32:06
  manager
• 32:06
  thing.
• 32:07
  And
• 32:07
  one
• 32:08
  of
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  pet
• 32:08
  peeves
• 32:08
  for
• 32:09
  me
• 32:09
  as
• 32:09
  a
• 32:09
  team
• 32:10
  manager
• 32:10
  was
• 32:10
  always
• 32:11
  like,
• 32:11
  you
• 32:12
  know,
• 32:12
  you
• 32:12
  had
• 32:12
  your
• 32:12
  bike
• 32:13
  sponsor
• 32:13
  and
• 32:13
  the
• 32:14
  first
• 32:14
  thing
• 32:14
  you
• 32:14
  did
• 32:14
  at
• 32:14
  the
• 32:15
  beginning
• 32:15
  of
• 32:15
  the
• 32:15
  year
• 32:16
  was
• 32:17
  you
• 32:17
  got
• 32:17
  your
• 32:18
  discounts
• 32:18
  and
• 32:18
  everyone
• 32:19
  ordered
• 32:19
  all
• 32:19
  their
• 32:19
  parts,
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  know,
• 32:20
  so
• 32:21
  you,
• 32:21
  you,
• 32:21
  you
• 32:21
  got,
• 32:21
  you
• 32:22
  know,
• 32:22
  whatever,
• 32:22
  50,
• 32:23
  65%
• 32:24
  off
• 32:24
  for
• 32:24
  all
• 32:24
  your
• 32:24
  stuff
• 32:25
  to
• 32:25
  get.
• 32:25
  To
• 32:26
  get
• 32:26
  all
• 32:26
  your
• 32:26
  stuff
• 32:26
  ready
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  build
• 32:27
  your
• 32:27
  bike
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  go
• 32:28
  for
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  racing,
• 32:29
  you
• 32:29
  know,
• 32:30
  and
• 32:30
  then
• 32:31
  it
• 32:31
  was
• 32:31
  crickets,
• 32:32
  you
• 32:32
  know,
• 32:32
  the
• 32:33
  whole
• 32:33
  deal
• 32:33
  was
• 32:33
  here,
• 32:34
  you
• 32:34
  guys
• 32:34
  are
• 32:34
  going
• 32:34
  to
• 32:35
  be
• 32:35
  on
• 32:35
  this
• 32:35
  team,
• 32:35
  you're
• 32:35
  going
• 32:35
  to
• 32:35
  get
• 32:36
  your
• 32:36
  jerseys,
• 32:36
  you're
• 32:36
  going
• 32:37
  to
• 32:37
  get
• 32:37
  all
• 32:37
  your
• 32:37
  parts,
• 32:37
  and
• 32:37
  then
• 32:38
  you're
• 32:38
  going
• 32:38
  to
• 32:38
  race
• 32:38
  all
• 32:38
  season,
• 32:39
  and
• 32:39
  you're
• 32:39
  going
• 32:40
  to
• 32:40
  do
• 32:40
  all
• 32:40
  these
• 32:40
  things
• 32:40
  on
• 32:41
  social
• 32:41
  media
• 32:41
  and
• 32:42
  promote
• 32:42
  the,
• 32:43
  you
• 32:43
  know,
• 32:43
  promote
• 32:44
  the
• 32:44
  companies
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  support
• 32:45
  us.
• 32:45
  And
• 32:45
  then
• 32:46
  once
• 32:46
  they
• 32:46
  got
• 32:47
  their
• 32:47
  stuff,
• 32:48
  it
• 32:48
  was
• 32:48
  like
• 32:49
  they
• 32:49
  forgot
• 32:50
  all
• 32:50
  that,
• 32:50
  you
• 32:50
  know,
• 32:50
  and
• 32:51
  you
• 32:51
  can't
• 32:51
  take
• 32:51
  it
• 32:51
  all
• 32:52
  back
• 32:52
  because
• 32:52
  they
• 32:53
  did
• 32:53
  pay
• 32:53
  for
• 32:53
  it,
• 32:54
  you
• 32:54
  know,
• 32:54
  to
• 32:54
  some
• 32:54
  degree.
• 32:55
  And
• 32:57
  that
• 32:57
  was
• 32:57
  my
• 32:57
  worry
• 32:58
  with
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  whole
• 32:58
  pro
• 32:59
  deal,
• 32:59
  like
• 33:00
  guide
• 33:01
  ambassador
• 33:02
  thing
• 33:02
  was
• 33:02
  like,
• 33:04
  like,
• 33:04
  how
• 33:04
  do
• 33:05
  you,
• 33:05
  how
• 33:05
  do
• 33:05
  you
• 33:06
  patrol
• 33:06
  that?
• 33:06
  You
• 33:07
  know,
• 33:07
  we're
• 33:07
  going
• 33:07
  up,
• 33:08
  we're
• 33:08
  going
• 33:08
  up
• 33:09
  against
• 33:09
  these
• 33:09
  huge
• 33:10
  companies
• 33:10
  that,
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  know,
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  might
• 33:12
  get
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  new
• 33:12
  guide
• 33:12
  that
• 33:13
  wants
• 33:13
  to
• 33:13
  get
• 33:13
  a
• 33:13
  good
• 33:13
  deal
• 33:14
  on
• 33:14
  some
• 33:14
  rods,
• 33:14
  but
• 33:15
  the
• 33:15
  first
• 33:16
  chance
• 33:16
  they
• 33:17
  get,
• 33:17
  or
• 33:17
  the
• 33:18
  first
• 33:18
  sniff
• 33:18
  they
• 33:19
  get
• 33:19
  by
• 33:19
  G.
• 33:19
  Loomis
• 33:20
  or
• 33:20
  one
• 33:20
  of
• 33:20
  these
• 33:20
  big
• 33:21
  companies
• 33:21
  to
• 33:21
  get
• 33:22
  some
• 33:22
  support,
• 33:23
  like
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  first
• 33:24
  thing
• 33:24
  they
• 33:24
  do
• 33:24
  is
• 33:24
  drop
• 33:25
  us,
• 33:25
  you
• 33:25
  know,
• 33:26
  because,
• 33:26
  because
• 33:26
  Orvis
• 33:27
  or
• 33:27
  G.
• 33:28
  Loomis
• 33:28
  is
• 33:28
  way
• 33:29
  cooler.
• 33:29
  Right.
• 33:30
  So
• 33:30
  it's,
• 33:31
  it's
• 33:31
  a
• 33:31
  hard
• 33:31
  thing
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  police.
• 33:32
  So
• 33:34
  we
• 33:34
  just
• 33:34
  kind
• 33:34
  of
• 33:34
  done
• 33:35
  that
• 33:35
  organically
• 33:35
  too,
• 33:36
  you
• 33:37
  know.
• 33:38
  And
• 33:39
  I've
• 33:39
  just
• 33:40
  met
• 33:40
  people
• 33:41
  along
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  way
• 33:42
  and
• 33:42
  kind
• 33:42
  of
• 33:42
  let
• 33:43
  them
• 33:43
  ask
• 33:43
  me
• 33:43
  what
• 33:44
  they
• 33:44
  want,
• 33:45
  what
• 33:45
  they
• 33:45
  need.
• 33:48
  Most
• 33:48
  of
• 33:48
  them
• 33:48
  want
• 33:49
  to
• 33:49
  support
• 33:49
  us
• 33:50
  because
• 33:50
  they
• 33:50
  like
• 33:50
  us
• 33:51
  as
• 33:51
  humans
• 33:52
  and
• 33:52
  they
• 33:53
  think
• 33:53
  the
• 33:53
  rods
• 33:54
  cast
• 33:54
  well
• 33:57
  and
• 33:57
  they're
• 33:57
  not
• 33:57
  under
• 33:57
  any
• 33:58
  kind
• 33:58
  of
• 34:00
  obligation
• 34:00
  through
• 34:01
  a
• 34:01
  shop
• 34:01
  to
• 34:02
  run
• 34:02
  a
• 34:03
  certain
• 34:03
  brand
• 34:03
  in
• 34:03
  their
• 34:04
  boat,
• 34:04
  you
• 34:04
  know,
• 34:05
  so
• 34:06
  we're,
• 34:06
  we're
• 34:06
  still
• 34:07
  playing
• 34:07
  with
• 34:07
  it.
• 34:08
  We've
• 34:08
  got
• 34:08
  a
• 34:08
  couple
• 34:08
  different
• 34:09
  tiers
• 34:09
  of
• 34:11
  guide
• 34:11
  ambassadorship,
• 34:12
  you
• 34:12
  know,
• 34:13
  so
• 34:14
  if,
• 34:14
  if
• 34:14
  people,
• 34:15
  if
• 34:15
  guides
• 34:15
  are
• 34:15
  out
• 34:16
  there
• 34:16
  and
• 34:16
  they
• 34:16
  want
• 34:17
  to
• 34:17
  get
• 34:17
  some
• 34:17
  of
• 34:17
  our
• 34:18
  product
• 34:18
  in
• 34:18
  their
• 34:18
  boats,
• 34:20
  we
• 34:20
  usually
• 34:20
  test
• 34:20
  the
• 34:21
  waters
• 34:21
  with
• 34:21
  a
• 34:21
  smaller
• 34:22
  discount,
• 34:23
  see
• 34:24
  if
• 34:24
  they're
• 34:24
  gonna
• 34:25
  do
• 34:25
  what
• 34:25
  they
• 34:25
  say
• 34:26
  they're
• 34:26
  gonna
• 34:26
  do,
• 34:26
  and
• 34:27
  then
• 34:27
  they
• 34:27
  can
• 34:27
  work
• 34:27
  their
• 34:28
  way
• 34:28
  up
• 34:28
  into
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  bigger
• 34:30
  discount
• 34:31
  as
• 34:31
  a
• 34:32
  guide.
• 34:33
  Because
• 34:33
  it
• 34:34
  is
• 34:34
  important
• 34:35
  when
• 34:35
  people
• 34:35
  are
• 34:36
  out
• 34:36
  catching
• 34:37
  fish,
• 34:37
  they
• 34:37
  look
• 34:37
  down
• 34:38
  and
• 34:38
  see
• 34:38
  what
• 34:38
  they're
• 34:38
  fishing
• 34:39
  usually.
• 34:39
  And
• 34:40
  if,
• 34:40
  you
• 34:41
  know,
• 34:41
  we
• 34:41
  could
• 34:41
  get
• 34:41
  some
• 34:42
  brand
• 34:42
  recognition
• 34:42
  out
• 34:43
  of
• 34:43
  that,
• 34:43
  it's
• 34:43
  important.
• 34:44
  So
• 34:46
  very,
• 34:46
  very
• 34:46
  neat.
• 34:47
  And
• 34:47
  so
• 34:47
  why
• 34:47
  don't
• 34:47
  you,
• 34:47
  Dave,
• 34:48
  walk
• 34:48
  us
• 34:48
  through.
• 34:49
  I
• 34:49
  think
• 34:49
  you've
• 34:49
  got
• 34:49
  what,
• 34:50
  about
• 34:50
  a
• 34:50
  half
• 34:50
  a
• 34:50
  dozen
• 34:51
  specific
• 34:52
  rod
• 34:53
  rides?
• 34:53
  You
• 34:53
  want
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  walk
• 34:54
  us
• 34:54
  through
• 34:54
  those?
• 34:55
  Yeah.
• 34:56
  So
• 34:56
  we,
• 34:57
  we
• 34:57
  run,
• 34:57
  we
• 34:58
  have
• 34:58
  everything
• 34:58
  from
• 34:58
  a
• 34:59
  10
• 34:59
  foot
• 34:59
  3
• 35:00
  weight
• 35:00
  up
• 35:00
  to
• 35:00
  a
• 35:00
  9
• 35:01
  foot
• 35:01
  12
• 35:01
  weight.
• 35:02
  So
• 35:02
  we've
• 35:03
  got
• 35:03
  our
• 35:03
  high
• 35:03
  stick,
• 35:04
  which
• 35:05
  is
• 35:05
  our
• 35:05
  10
• 35:05
  foot
• 35:05
  3
• 35:06
  weight.
• 35:08
  Great
• 35:08
  entry
• 35:08
  level
• 35:09
  price
• 35:10
  at
• 35:10
  179.
• 35:12
  A
• 35:13
  really,
• 35:13
  I
• 35:13
  mean
• 35:14
  it's
• 35:14
  a,
• 35:14
  it's
• 35:14
  a
• 35:14
  fun
• 35:14
  casting
• 35:15
  rod.
• 35:15
  You
• 35:15
  know,
• 35:16
  whether
• 35:16
  you're
• 35:16
  Kentucky
• 35:17
  farm
• 35:17
  ponding
• 35:18
  for
• 35:18
  pan
• 35:18
  fish
• 35:18
  out
• 35:19
  of
• 35:19
  a
• 35:19
  canoe.
• 35:20
  Uh,
• 35:20
  tons
• 35:20
  of
• 35:21
  guys
• 35:21
  do
• 35:21
  that.
• 35:21
  Just,
• 35:22
  they
• 35:22
  just
• 35:22
  use
• 35:22
  that
• 35:23
  extra
• 35:24
  one
• 35:24
  foot
• 35:24
  of
• 35:24
  length
• 35:25
  to
• 35:25
  roll
• 35:25
  cast
• 35:26
  their
• 35:26
  cast
• 35:26
  out
• 35:26
  there
• 35:26
  while
• 35:27
  they're
• 35:27
  sitting
• 35:27
  down.
• 35:29
  It's
• 35:29
  an
• 35:29
  effortless
• 35:30
  cast
• 35:30
  and
• 35:30
  rod.
• 35:33
  Great,
• 35:33
  great,
• 35:34
  great
• 35:35
  option
• 35:35
  for
• 35:36
  someone
• 35:36
  that
• 35:37
  wants
• 35:37
  to
• 35:39
  not
• 35:39
  just
• 35:39
  have
• 35:39
  a,
• 35:40
  a
• 35:40
  ten
• 35:40
  foot
• 35:41
  three
• 35:41
  weight
• 35:41
  that
• 35:42
  is
• 35:42
  solely
• 35:42
  just
• 35:43
  built
• 35:44
  for
• 35:44
  euro
• 35:44
  nymphing.
• 35:45
  You
• 35:45
  know,
• 35:45
  like
• 35:45
  it
• 35:46
  casts
• 35:46
  well,
• 35:48
  it
• 35:48
  roll
• 35:49
  casts
• 35:49
  well.
• 35:50
  It's
• 35:50
  not,
• 35:51
  it
• 35:51
  doesn't
• 35:51
  have
• 35:51
  a,
• 35:53
  a
• 35:53
  down
• 35:53
  locking
• 35:54
  reel
• 35:54
  seat
• 35:54
  on
• 35:55
  it.
• 35:55
  I
• 35:56
  did
• 35:56
  that
• 35:56
  for
• 35:56
  a
• 35:56
  reason.
• 35:57
  I
• 35:57
  wanted
• 35:57
  to,
• 35:58
  I
• 35:58
  left
• 35:58
  a
• 35:58
  little
• 35:59
  bit
• 35:59
  of
• 35:59
  room
• 35:59
  in
• 35:59
  the
• 35:59
  quiver
• 36:00
  to,
• 36:00
  to
• 36:01
  develop
• 36:01
  a
• 36:01
  more
• 36:02
  euro
• 36:02
  specific
• 36:03
  rod
• 36:04
  down
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  road
• 36:04
  as
• 36:04
  we
• 36:05
  grew.
• 36:07
  And
• 36:07
  then
• 36:07
  we've
• 36:08
  our
• 36:08
  9
• 36:08
  foot
• 36:08
  5
• 36:09
  weight,
• 36:09
  the
• 36:09
  roll
• 36:09
  caster.
• 36:10
  It's
• 36:11
  going
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  be
• 36:12
  more
• 36:12
  of
• 36:12
  a
• 36:12
  medium,
• 36:13
  medium
• 36:14
  action
• 36:14
  rod.
• 36:16
  A
• 36:16
  lot
• 36:16
  of
• 36:16
  people
• 36:18
  compare
• 36:18
  it
• 36:19
  to
• 36:19
  like
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  Reddington
• 36:20
  classic
• 36:20
  trout,
• 36:21
  like
• 36:21
  that
• 36:21
  kind
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  feeling
• 36:22
  rod.
• 36:23
  So
• 36:23
  lot,
• 36:24
  lot
• 36:24
  more
• 36:24
  forgiveness,
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  little
• 36:25
  bit
• 36:26
  more
• 36:26
  soul
• 36:27
  roll
• 36:28
  cast
• 36:28
  beautifully.
• 36:30
  The
• 36:31
  beauty
• 36:31
  of
• 36:31
  that
• 36:31
  rod,
• 36:33
  when
• 36:33
  I
• 36:33
  was
• 36:33
  developing
• 36:34
  it,
• 36:34
  I
• 36:34
  really
• 36:35
  wanted
• 36:35
  a
• 36:35
  rod
• 36:35
  that
• 36:35
  was
• 36:36
  light
• 36:36
  in
• 36:36
  hand
• 36:37
  but
• 36:37
  like
• 36:38
  a
• 36:38
  beginner
• 36:38
  could
• 36:38
  pick
• 36:38
  up
• 36:39
  and
• 36:40
  put
• 36:40
  a
• 36:41
  loop
• 36:41
  together
• 36:42
  and
• 36:42
  not
• 36:42
  feel
• 36:42
  like
• 36:42
  they're
• 36:43
  fighting
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  rod
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  whole
• 36:44
  time.
• 36:45
  And
• 36:45
  it,
• 36:46
  it's
• 36:46
  cool
• 36:46
  watching
• 36:47
  people
• 36:48
  pick
• 36:49
  that
• 36:49
  rod
• 36:49
  up
• 36:49
  for
• 36:49
  the
• 36:50
  first
• 36:50
  time.
• 36:51
  Even
• 36:51
  like
• 36:52
  casting
• 36:52
  instructors,
• 36:53
  they'll
• 36:54
  pick
• 36:54
  it
• 36:54
  up
• 36:54
  and
• 36:55
  they'll,
• 36:55
  they'll,
• 36:56
  they'll
• 36:56
  try
• 36:56
  to
• 36:56
  cast
• 36:57
  at
• 36:57
  like
• 36:57
  a
• 36:57
  super
• 36:58
  fast
• 36:59
  dry
• 36:59
  fly
• 37:00
  rod
• 37:00
  or
• 37:00
  something
• 37:00
  and
• 37:03
  they'll
• 37:03
  slow
• 37:03
  down
• 37:04
  their
• 37:04
  cast
• 37:04
  and
• 37:04
  get
• 37:04
  it
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  then
• 37:05
  they'll
• 37:05
  just
• 37:05
  be,
• 37:06
  they'll
• 37:06
  weld
• 37:06
  it.
• 37:06
  You
• 37:07
  know,
• 37:07
  it's
• 37:07
  like
• 37:07
  they
• 37:07
  can
• 37:08
  immediately
• 37:08
  adjust
• 37:09
  to
• 37:09
  that
• 37:09
  rod
• 37:10
  and
• 37:10
  get
• 37:11
  it
• 37:11
  working
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  way
• 37:11
  it
• 37:11
  needs
• 37:12
  to.
• 37:13
  And
• 37:13
  then
• 37:13
  you
• 37:13
  pick
• 37:13
  up.
• 37:14
  A
• 37:14
  beginner
• 37:15
  will
• 37:15
  pick
• 37:15
  it
• 37:16
  up
• 37:16
  and
• 37:16
  go
• 37:16
  out
• 37:16
  there
• 37:16
  and
• 37:16
  they
• 37:17
  immediately
• 37:18
  have
• 37:18
  confidence,
• 37:19
  you
• 37:19
  know,
• 37:19
  so,
• 37:22
  so
• 37:22
  that's
• 37:22
  our
• 37:22
  nine
• 37:22
  foot
• 37:23
  five
• 37:23
  weight.
• 37:23
  We
• 37:23
  have
• 37:23
  got
• 37:23
  a
• 37:24
  nine
• 37:24
  foot
• 37:24
  six
• 37:24
  weight
• 37:25
  with
• 37:25
  a
• 37:25
  fighting
• 37:25
  butt
• 37:26
  called
• 37:26
  the
• 37:26
  Fish
• 37:27
  Whistle.
• 37:28
  That's
• 37:28
  going
• 37:28
  to
• 37:28
  be
• 37:29
  our
• 37:29
  first
• 37:30
  rod
• 37:30
  that
• 37:30
  has
• 37:31
  more
• 37:31
  of
• 37:31
  a
• 37:31
  salt
• 37:31
  inspired
• 37:32
  taper,
• 37:32
  A
• 37:32
  little
• 37:33
  wider
• 37:34
  modulus,
• 37:35
  a
• 37:35
  little
• 37:35
  more
• 37:36
  tip
• 37:38
  action
• 37:39
  so
• 37:39
  it's
• 37:39
  a
• 37:39
  little
• 37:39
  lighter,
• 37:40
  a
• 37:40
  little
• 37:40
  faster.
• 37:41
  That
• 37:42
  rod
• 37:42
  was
• 37:42
  originally
• 37:43
  designed
• 37:43
  for
• 37:44
  fishing
• 37:45
  dock
• 37:45
  light
• 37:45
  fishing
• 37:46
  for
• 37:47
  juvenile
• 37:47
  tarpon
• 37:48
  and
• 37:48
  snook
• 37:49
  down
• 37:49
  in
• 37:49
  Florida
• 37:50
  for
• 37:50
  a
• 37:50
  guide
• 37:51
  buddy
• 37:51
  of
• 37:51
  mine.
• 37:52
  And
• 37:53
  once
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  got
• 37:54
  done
• 37:54
  with
• 37:54
  it,
• 37:56
  I
• 37:56
  just
• 37:56
  really
• 37:57
  enjoyed
• 37:57
  casting
• 37:57
  it.
• 37:58
  I
• 37:58
  was
• 37:58
  like,
• 37:59
  you
• 37:59
  know
• 38:00
  man,
• 38:00
  I
• 38:01
  need
• 38:01
  to
• 38:01
  add
• 38:01
  this
• 38:01
  one
• 38:01
  to
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  lineup.
• 38:02
  So
• 38:03
  nine
• 38:03
  foot
• 38:03
  six
• 38:04
  weight
• 38:04
  Fish
• 38:04
  whistle.
• 38:05
  Then
• 38:05
  our
• 38:06
  nine
• 38:06
  foot
• 38:06
  seven
• 38:07
  is
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  streamer
• 38:07
  stick
• 38:09
  that
• 38:10
  is
• 38:10
  going
• 38:10
  to
• 38:10
  be
• 38:11
  going
• 38:11
  back
• 38:11
  to
• 38:12
  more
• 38:12
  of
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  traditional
• 38:13
  mid
• 38:13
  flex
• 38:14
  feeling
• 38:14
  rod.
• 38:15
  Super
• 38:16
  fun
• 38:16
  to
• 38:16
  cast.
• 38:17
  You
• 38:17
  know,
• 38:18
  all
• 38:18
  of
• 38:18
  our
• 38:18
  rods
• 38:18
  are
• 38:19
  kind
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  named
• 38:20
  something
• 38:20
  a
• 38:20
  little
• 38:20
  different
• 38:22
  and
• 38:22
  based
• 38:22
  off
• 38:22
  of
• 38:23
  their
• 38:23
  kind
• 38:24
  of
• 38:24
  indicative
• 38:24
  of,
• 38:25
  you
• 38:25
  know,
• 38:26
  what
• 38:26
  their
• 38:26
  qualities
• 38:27
  are.
• 38:28
  So
• 38:30
  that
• 38:30
  one's
• 38:31
  179
• 38:32
  price
• 38:33
  point
• 38:33
  for
• 38:33
  that
• 38:34
  one
• 38:35
  because
• 38:35
  of
• 38:35
  the
• 38:35
  componentries,
• 38:37
  you
• 38:38
  know,
• 38:38
  a
• 38:38
  little
• 38:38
  bit
• 38:39
  more
• 38:39
  in
• 38:39
  line
• 38:39
  with
• 38:39
  the
• 38:40
  five
• 38:40
  weight
• 38:40
  stuff.
• 38:42
  The,
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  next
• 38:43
  rod
• 38:44
  that
• 38:44
  we
• 38:45
  have
• 38:45
  is
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  eight
• 38:49
  foot
• 38:50
  bomber
• 38:50
  is
• 38:50
  our
• 38:51
  graphite
• 38:52
  eight
• 38:52
  weight.
• 38:55
  The
• 38:55
  nine
• 38:55
  foot
• 38:56
  nine
• 38:56
  foot
• 38:56
  eight
• 38:56
  weight
• 38:57
  bomber.
• 38:58
  That
• 38:58
  one
• 38:58
  is
• 38:59
  built
• 39:00
  on
• 39:00
  a
• 39:02
  similar
• 39:02
  taper
• 39:02
  to
• 39:03
  our
• 39:03
  six
• 39:03
  weight.
• 39:03
  So
• 39:04
  a
• 39:04
  little
• 39:04
  lighter,
• 39:04
  a
• 39:04
  little
• 39:04
  faster.
• 39:05
  Salt.
• 39:05
  Salt.
• 39:06
  Inspired
• 39:07
  Fuji
• 39:07
  alkaline
• 39:08
  guides.
• 39:09
  Spare
• 39:10
  tip.
• 39:11
  Yeah,
• 39:12
  lot,
• 39:13
  lot
• 39:13
  of
• 39:13
  fun
• 39:14
  for
• 39:15
  your
• 39:15
  snook,
• 39:16
  red
• 39:17
  fish,
• 39:18
  sea
• 39:18
  trout,
• 39:19
  things
• 39:19
  like
• 39:19
  that.
• 39:22
  And
• 39:22
  we
• 39:22
  have
• 39:22
  another
• 39:23
  8
• 39:23
  weight
• 39:23
  is
• 39:24
  a
• 39:24
  8
• 39:25
  foot
• 39:25
  8
• 39:25
  weight
• 39:25
  power
• 39:26
  glass
• 39:26
  which
• 39:26
  is
• 39:26
  a
• 39:27
  fiberglass
• 39:27
  rod.
• 39:29
  Super
• 39:30
  fun
• 39:30
  carp
• 39:30
  rod.
• 39:31
  It's
• 39:32
  got
• 39:32
  a
• 39:32
  lot
• 39:32
  of
• 39:32
  power.
• 39:34
  Started
• 39:34
  that
• 39:34
  rod
• 39:35
  out
• 39:35
  as
• 39:35
  a
• 39:35
  nine
• 39:35
  footer
• 39:36
  and
• 39:36
  didn't
• 39:37
  like
• 39:37
  it,
• 39:38
  but
• 39:38
  then
• 39:39
  got
• 39:39
  it
• 39:39
  down.
• 39:40
  Once
• 39:40
  we
• 39:40
  got
• 39:40
  it
• 39:40
  down
• 39:41
  to
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  eight
• 39:41
  foot
• 39:41
  range,
• 39:42
  it
• 39:43
  was
• 39:43
  punching
• 39:43
  through
• 39:43
  some
• 39:44
  wind.
• 39:44
  I
• 39:44
  did
• 39:44
  a
• 39:44
  lot
• 39:44
  of
• 39:45
  testing
• 39:45
  down
• 39:45
  in
• 39:45
  Texas
• 39:46
  for
• 39:46
  that
• 39:47
  red
• 39:48
  fishing
• 39:49
  and
• 39:50
  it
• 39:50
  just
• 39:50
  turned
• 39:50
  into
• 39:51
  a
• 39:51
  really
• 39:51
  fun
• 39:51
  rod.
• 39:52
  I,
• 39:52
  I
• 39:52
  kind
• 39:52
  of,
• 39:53
  I
• 39:54
  knew
• 39:54
  I
• 39:54
  wanted
• 39:54
  to
• 39:54
  add
• 39:55
  at
• 39:55
  least
• 39:55
  one
• 39:55
  fiberglass
• 39:56
  rod
• 39:56
  in
• 39:57
  the
• 39:57
  lineup
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  it
• 39:58
  was,
• 39:59
  I
• 39:59
  didn't
• 39:59
  want
• 40:00
  to
• 40:00
  do
• 40:00
  a
• 40:00
  three
• 40:00
  weight
• 40:00
  or
• 40:01
  anything
• 40:01
  real
• 40:01
  light
• 40:01
  because
• 40:02
  there's
• 40:02
  a
• 40:02
  ton
• 40:02
  of
• 40:02
  people
• 40:02
  doing
• 40:03
  them.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:04
  I
• 40:04
  was
• 40:04
  just
• 40:04
  kind
• 40:05
  of,
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  was
• 40:05
  kind
• 40:05
  of
• 40:06
  sold
• 40:06
  on
• 40:06
  the
• 40:06
  eight
• 40:06
  weight
• 40:07
  because
• 40:07
  of
• 40:07
  its
• 40:07
  versatility.
• 40:08
  I
• 40:08
  feel
• 40:08
  like
• 40:08
  you
• 40:08
  can
• 40:09
  take
• 40:09
  that
• 40:09
  thing,
• 40:12
  you
• 40:12
  can
• 40:13
  take
• 40:13
  that
• 40:13
  thing
• 40:13
  to
• 40:13
  a
• 40:14
  little
• 40:14
  creek
• 40:14
  and
• 40:14
  catch
• 40:15
  some
• 40:15
  pan
• 40:15
  fish
• 40:15
  and
• 40:15
  it's
• 40:16
  still
• 40:16
  fun
• 40:17
  or
• 40:17
  you
• 40:17
  could
• 40:18
  really,
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  know,
• 40:19
  go
• 40:19
  catch
• 40:19
  some
• 40:19
  bigger
• 40:20
  fish
• 40:20
  and
• 40:20
  it's
• 40:21
  forgiving
• 40:21
  enough
• 40:21
  to,
• 40:22
  to,
• 40:22
  you
• 40:23
  know,
• 40:23
  you
• 40:23
  know,
• 40:23
  I've
• 40:24
  got
• 40:24
  customers
• 40:24
  that
• 40:25
  have
• 40:25
  caught
• 40:25
  30
• 40:25
  inch,
• 40:26
  you
• 40:26
  know,
• 40:26
  pike
• 40:26
  and
• 40:26
  muskie
• 40:27
  on
• 40:27
  it
• 40:27
  up
• 40:27
  north.
• 40:28
  So
• 40:28
  it's
• 40:29
  got
• 40:29
  a
• 40:29
  good
• 40:29
  range.
• 40:30
  As
• 40:31
  for
• 40:31
  a
• 40:31
  glass
• 40:31
  rod
• 40:33
  and
• 40:33
  then
• 40:34
  going
• 40:34
  back
• 40:34
  to
• 40:34
  the
• 40:34
  graphite
• 40:35
  stuff,
• 40:35
  We've
• 40:36
  got
• 40:36
  a
• 40:36
  9
• 40:37
  foot
• 40:37
  9
• 40:37
  weight
• 40:39
  strip
• 40:39
  set
• 40:40
  which
• 40:41
  also
• 40:41
  built
• 40:42
  on
• 40:42
  that
• 40:42
  faster
• 40:43
  taper
• 40:43
  like
• 40:43
  the
• 40:44
  6
• 40:45
  and
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  8.
• 40:47
  And
• 40:47
  then
• 40:47
  we've
• 40:47
  got
• 40:47
  our
• 40:48
  river
• 40:48
  Wolf
• 40:48
  which
• 40:49
  is
• 40:49
  our
• 40:49
  9
• 40:49
  foot
• 40:49
  11
• 40:50
  muskie
• 40:50
  stick
• 40:51
  that
• 40:51
  comes
• 40:51
  in
• 40:52
  two
• 40:52
  colors
• 40:52
  like
• 40:52
  a
• 40:53
  gold
• 40:53
  metallic
• 40:54
  and
• 40:54
  orange
• 40:55
  or
• 40:55
  an
• 40:55
  OD
• 40:56
  green
• 40:56
  matte
• 40:56
  and
• 40:57
  black.
• 40:59
  And
• 40:59
  that's
• 40:59
  going
• 40:59
  to
• 41:00
  have
• 41:00
  that,
• 41:00
  that
• 41:01
  medium
• 41:02
  deep
• 41:03
  flex
• 41:03
  for
• 41:03
  casting
• 41:04
  big,
• 41:05
  bigger,
• 41:05
  heavier
• 41:05
  flies.
• 41:06
  And
• 41:06
  just
• 41:07
  a
• 41:07
  rod
• 41:07
  that's
• 41:08
  really
• 41:08
  comfortable
• 41:09
  to
• 41:09
  cast
• 41:09
  like
• 41:09
  day
• 41:09
  in
• 41:10
  and
• 41:10
  day
• 41:10
  out
• 41:10
  for
• 41:10
  like
• 41:11
  four
• 41:12
  days
• 41:12
  at
• 41:12
  a
• 41:12
  time,
• 41:12
  you
• 41:13
  know.
• 41:13
  And
• 41:13
  then
• 41:14
  we've
• 41:14
  got
• 41:15
  our
• 41:15
  9
• 41:16
  foot
• 41:17
  12
• 41:17
  weight
• 41:18
  which
• 41:18
  is
• 41:18
  the
• 41:19
  double
• 41:19
  hall,
• 41:19
  which
• 41:20
  is
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  little
• 41:20
  bit
• 41:20
  lighter
• 41:21
  and
• 41:21
  a
• 41:21
  little
• 41:21
  bit
• 41:22
  faster
• 41:22
  than
• 41:22
  our
• 41:22
  11.
• 41:24
  A
• 41:25
  lot
• 41:25
  of
• 41:25
  people
• 41:25
  use
• 41:25
  it
• 41:25
  for
• 41:26
  musky
• 41:26
  but
• 41:26
  it's
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  great
• 41:27
  rod
• 41:27
  to
• 41:28
  go
• 41:28
  take
• 41:28
  to
• 41:28
  the
• 41:28
  salt.
• 41:28
  If
• 41:29
  you're,
• 41:29
  if
• 41:29
  you're
• 41:30
  a
• 41:30
  dude
• 41:30
  that
• 41:30
  primarily
• 41:31
  fishes
• 41:31
  freshwater
• 41:32
  and
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  want
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  do
• 41:33
  a
• 41:33
  couple
• 41:33
  tarpon
• 41:33
  trips
• 41:34
  a
• 41:34
  year
• 41:34
  or
• 41:34
  whatever.
• 41:35
  One
• 41:35
  a
• 41:35
  year.
• 41:35
  It's,
• 41:36
  it's
• 41:36
  a
• 41:36
  great
• 41:36
  option
• 41:37
  for
• 41:37
  that
• 41:37
  and
• 41:37
  for
• 41:38
  you
• 41:38
  know,
• 41:38
  Amber
• 41:39
  Jackson,
• 41:39
  bigger
• 41:40
  fish
• 41:40
  and
• 41:40
  assault.
• 41:42
  So
• 41:42
  yeah,
• 41:42
  that's,
• 41:42
  that's
• 41:43
  our
• 41:43
  current
• 41:43
  lineup
• 41:45
  and
• 41:45
  we're
• 41:46
  working
• 41:46
  on
• 41:46
  some
• 41:46
  other
• 41:47
  stuff
• 41:47
  too.
• 41:47
  So.
• 41:48
  Yeah.
• 41:48
  Can
• 41:49
  you
• 41:49
  share
• 41:49
  tease
• 41:50
  any
• 41:50
  details
• 41:51
  of
• 41:51
  the
• 41:51
  other
• 41:51
  stuff?
• 41:52
  Yeah.
• 41:52
  So
• 41:54
  been
• 41:54
  working
• 41:54
  on
• 41:55
  a
• 41:55
  shorter
• 41:55
  rod.
• 41:56
  Working
• 41:56
  on
• 41:56
  a.
• 41:57
  A
• 41:57
  seven
• 41:58
  foot
• 41:59
  probably.
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  was
• 42:00
  kind
• 42:00
  of
• 42:00
  up
• 42:00
  in
• 42:01
  the
• 42:01
  air
• 42:01
  between
• 42:01
  a
• 42:01
  771
• 42:02
  and
• 42:03
  a
• 42:03
  73
• 42:03
  trying
• 42:04
  to
• 42:04
  figure
• 42:04
  out
• 42:04
  what
• 42:04
  I
• 42:04
  want.
• 42:05
  I
• 42:05
  think
• 42:05
  it's
• 42:05
  going
• 42:05
  to
• 42:06
  end
• 42:06
  up
• 42:06
  being
• 42:06
  a
• 42:06
  7
• 42:06
  foot
• 42:07
  2
• 42:07
  weight
• 42:07
  called
• 42:08
  the
• 42:08
  pocket
• 42:08
  knife.
• 42:10
  And
• 42:10
  that's,
• 42:11
  that's
• 42:11
  just
• 42:12
  come
• 42:12
  out
• 42:12
  of.
• 42:12
  We've
• 42:12
  had
• 42:13
  a
• 42:13
  lot
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  requests
• 42:13
  for
• 42:13
  a
• 42:14
  shorter
• 42:14
  rod
• 42:14
  especially
• 42:15
  in
• 42:15
  the
• 42:16
  Appalachians
• 42:16
  and
• 42:17
  the
• 42:17
  brook
• 42:17
  trout
• 42:17
  guys.
• 42:18
  So
• 42:19
  going
• 42:19
  to
• 42:19
  try
• 42:19
  to
• 42:19
  create
• 42:20
  something.
• 42:21
  It's,
• 42:21
  it's,
• 42:21
  it's
• 42:22
  in
• 42:22
  process
• 42:24
  and
• 42:24
  just
• 42:24
  trying
• 42:25
  to
• 42:25
  refine
• 42:25
  it
• 42:25
  a
• 42:25
  little
• 42:25
  bit
• 42:26
  and
• 42:26
  get
• 42:27
  it.
• 42:27
  Most
• 42:28
  of
• 42:28
  our
• 42:28
  rods
• 42:28
  go
• 42:29
  through
• 42:29
  about
• 42:29
  a
• 42:29
  year
• 42:30
  of
• 42:31
  testing
• 42:32
  and
• 42:32
  just
• 42:34
  prototyping
• 42:34
  before,
• 42:35
  before
• 42:35
  they
• 42:36
  land
• 42:36
  on
• 42:36
  the
• 42:36
  website
• 42:37
  for
• 42:37
  the
• 42:37
  general
• 42:38
  public.
• 42:39
  And
• 42:39
  then
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  other
• 42:41
  really
• 42:41
  cool
• 42:41
  exciting
• 42:42
  thing
• 42:43
  I'm
• 42:44
  working
• 42:44
  on,
• 42:45
  I'm
• 42:46
  working
• 42:46
  on
• 42:46
  our
• 42:46
  first
• 42:47
  lineup
• 42:48
  of
• 42:48
  mid
• 42:49
  priced
• 42:49
  rods.
• 42:51
  Gonna
• 42:51
  be
• 42:51
  called
• 42:51
  the
• 42:52
  Destination
• 42:52
  series.
• 42:54
  Gonna
• 42:54
  built.
• 42:54
  Be
• 42:55
  built
• 42:55
  with
• 42:55
  a
• 42:55
  little
• 42:55
  bit
• 42:55
  higher
• 42:56
  end.
• 42:56
  Components
• 42:58
  haven't
• 42:58
  landed
• 42:58
  on
• 42:59
  the
• 42:59
  exact
• 42:59
  guides
• 42:59
  yet.
• 43:01
  They're
• 43:01
  either
• 43:01
  gonna
• 43:02
  be
• 43:02
  like
• 43:02
  sea
• 43:03
  guides
• 43:03
  or,
• 43:05
  or
• 43:06
  recoil
• 43:06
  guides.
• 43:08
  It's
• 43:08
  the
• 43:09
  jury's
• 43:09
  still
• 43:09
  out
• 43:09
  on
• 43:09
  that.
• 43:10
  I'm
• 43:10
  testing
• 43:10
  both.
• 43:11
  There's
• 43:11
  some
• 43:12
  pros
• 43:12
  and
• 43:12
  cons
• 43:12
  to
• 43:12
  both
• 43:13
  of
• 43:13
  them
• 43:13
  but
• 43:13
  the
• 43:14
  modulus
• 43:14
  is
• 43:14
  gonna
• 43:14
  be
• 43:15
  a
• 43:15
  little
• 43:15
  lighter,
• 43:15
  a
• 43:15
  little
• 43:16
  faster.
• 43:16
  The
• 43:17
  reel
• 43:17
  seat's
• 43:17
  gonna
• 43:18
  be
• 43:18
  nicer,
• 43:18
  the
• 43:18
  cork's
• 43:18
  gonna
• 43:19
  be
• 43:19
  nicer.
• 43:21
  Price
• 43:21
  point
• 43:21
  for
• 43:22
  it.
• 43:22
  We're
• 43:23
  shooting
• 43:23
  for
• 43:23
  like
• 43:23
  a
• 43:24
  $459
• 43:26
  price
• 43:26
  point
• 43:26
  for
• 43:26
  the
• 43:27
  Destination
• 43:27
  series.
• 43:28
  And
• 43:29
  it's
• 43:29
  going
• 43:29
  to
• 43:29
  be
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  first
• 43:31
  series
• 43:32
  that
• 43:32
  we
• 43:32
  are
• 43:32
  going
• 43:33
  to
• 43:33
  offer
• 43:33
  in
• 43:35
  different
• 43:36
  sizes.
• 43:36
  So
• 43:36
  you'll
• 43:37
  be
• 43:37
  able
• 43:37
  to,
• 43:37
  you'll,
• 43:37
  you'll
• 43:38
  be
• 43:38
  able
• 43:38
  to
• 43:38
  go
• 43:39
  on
• 43:39
  the
• 43:39
  website
• 43:39
  and
• 43:40
  order
• 43:40
  anything
• 43:40
  from
• 43:41
  a
• 43:41
  7
• 43:41
  up
• 43:41
  through
• 43:42
  like
• 43:42
  a
• 43:42
  12
• 43:42
  or
• 43:42
  a
• 43:43
  14
• 43:43
  weight.
• 43:43
  So
• 43:44
  up
• 43:44
  until
• 43:44
  now
• 43:45
  our
• 43:45
  rods
• 43:46
  have
• 43:46
  all
• 43:46
  been
• 43:46
  just
• 43:47
  whatever
• 43:47
  that
• 43:47
  model
• 43:48
  is
• 43:48
  is.
• 43:48
  It's,
• 43:49
  that's,
• 43:49
  that's
• 43:50
  that
• 43:50
  color
• 43:50
  and
• 43:50
  that's
• 43:51
  the
• 43:51
  size.
• 43:51
  So
• 43:52
  this
• 43:52
  will
• 43:52
  be
• 43:52
  the
• 43:52
  first
• 43:53
  like
• 43:53
  step
• 43:54
  into
• 43:54
  our
• 43:54
  like
• 43:55
  mid
• 43:55
  priced
• 43:56
  range.
• 43:57
  And
• 43:57
  I've
• 43:58
  also
• 43:58
  kind
• 43:58
  of.
• 44:00
  My
• 44:00
  goal
• 44:01
  is
• 44:01
  to
• 44:01
  be
• 44:02
  able
• 44:02
  to
• 44:02
  create
• 44:03
  a
• 44:03
  price
• 44:03
  point
• 44:04
  around
• 44:04
  the
• 44:04
  $459
• 44:05
  range
• 44:06
  with
• 44:07
  a
• 44:07
  lot
• 44:07
  of
• 44:07
  performance.
• 44:09
  And
• 44:09
  ultimately
• 44:10
  what
• 44:10
  I
• 44:10
  want
• 44:10
  to
• 44:11
  do
• 44:11
  is
• 44:11
  be
• 44:11
  able
• 44:11
  to.
• 44:12
  I
• 44:12
  want
• 44:12
  people
• 44:12
  to
• 44:13
  be
• 44:13
  able
• 44:13
  to
• 44:13
  go
• 44:13
  on
• 44:13
  our
• 44:13
  website
• 44:14
  and
• 44:14
  buy
• 44:14
  a
• 44:14
  three
• 44:14
  pack
• 44:15
  of
• 44:16
  rods
• 44:16
  for
• 44:16
  what
• 44:17
  the
• 44:17
  cost
• 44:17
  of
• 44:17
  like
• 44:18
  one
• 44:18
  heliognose
• 44:20
  cost.
• 44:21
  So
• 44:21
  people
• 44:22
  are
• 44:22
  trying
• 44:22
  to
• 44:22
  go
• 44:22
  on
• 44:22
  a
• 44:22
  trip
• 44:23
  to,
• 44:23
  you
• 44:23
  know,
• 44:23
  Belize.
• 44:24
  They
• 44:24
  want
• 44:25
  to
• 44:25
  knock
• 44:25
  out
• 44:25
  the
• 44:26
  slam.
• 44:28
  They
• 44:28
  can
• 44:28
  go,
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  know,
• 44:30
  I'm
• 44:30
  working
• 44:31
  on
• 44:31
  some
• 44:31
  packaging
• 44:32
  designs
• 44:33
  so
• 44:33
  that
• 44:33
  they
• 44:33
  could,
• 44:33
  you
• 44:34
  know,
• 44:34
  buy
• 44:35
  an
• 44:35
  8,
• 44:35
  10
• 44:35
  12,
• 44:36
  3
• 44:36
  pack
• 44:37
  that
• 44:37
  comes
• 44:37
  in
• 44:37
  a
• 44:38
  case.
• 44:39
  They
• 44:39
  can
• 44:39
  just
• 44:39
  buy
• 44:39
  all
• 44:40
  that
• 44:40
  for
• 44:40
  1200
• 44:40
  bucks,
• 44:41
  jump
• 44:41
  on
• 44:41
  a
• 44:42
  plane
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  be
• 44:42
  set,
• 44:43
  take
• 44:43
  some
• 44:43
  reels
• 44:44
  with
• 44:44
  them,
• 44:44
  you
• 44:44
  know.
• 44:44
  So
• 44:45
  that's
• 44:45
  kind
• 44:45
  of
• 44:46
  one
• 44:46
  of
• 44:46
  the
• 44:47
  more
• 44:47
  exciting
• 44:47
  projects
• 44:48
  I've
• 44:48
  been
• 44:49
  working
• 44:49
  on.
• 44:50
  And
• 44:50
  I've
• 44:50
  got
• 44:50
  a
• 44:50
  lot
• 44:50
  of
• 44:50
  hours
• 44:51
  in
• 44:51
  on
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  12
• 44:52
  weight
• 44:52
  that
• 44:52
  I've
• 44:53
  been
• 44:53
  testing.
• 44:53
  And
• 44:54
  everyone
• 44:55
  that's
• 44:55
  casted
• 44:55
  it's
• 44:56
  really
• 44:56
  loved
• 44:56
  it.
• 44:57
  So
• 44:58
  I'm
• 44:58
  excited
• 44:58
  to
• 44:58
  get
• 44:59
  those
• 44:59
  out
• 44:59
  there.
• 45:00
  Yeah.
• 45:00
  So
• 45:00
  when
• 45:00
  should
• 45:01
  folks
• 45:01
  expect
• 45:01
  to
• 45:01
  see
• 45:01
  those
• 45:02
  on
• 45:02
  the
• 45:02
  website?
• 45:03
  Man,
• 45:05
  I
• 45:05
  don't
• 45:05
  have
• 45:05
  a.
• 45:05
  I
• 45:06
  don't
• 45:06
  have
• 45:06
  an
• 45:06
  exact
• 45:06
  data
• 45:07
  on
• 45:07
  it
• 45:07
  yet.
• 45:08
  It's
• 45:08
  a
• 45:08
  big
• 45:09
  ask
• 45:09
  from
• 45:09
  us
• 45:10
  financially
• 45:11
  to,
• 45:12
  to,
• 45:12
  to
• 45:13
  get
• 45:13
  that
• 45:13
  inventory
• 45:14
  in.
• 45:15
  That's
• 45:15
  the
• 45:15
  biggest
• 45:15
  hurdle
• 45:16
  for
• 45:16
  us
• 45:16
  right
• 45:16
  now.
• 45:17
  The,
• 45:17
  the
• 45:17
  rod
• 45:18
  development
• 45:18
  is
• 45:18
  farther
• 45:19
  ahead
• 45:19
  than,
• 45:21
  you
• 45:21
  know,
• 45:22
  we
• 45:22
  just
• 45:22
  gotta
• 45:22
  be
• 45:23
  careful.
• 45:24
  Most
• 45:25
  of
• 45:25
  em,
• 45:25
  it's
• 45:25
  kind
• 45:25
  of
• 45:25
  easy.
• 45:26
  Cause
• 45:26
  we
• 45:26
  can
• 45:26
  bring
• 45:27
  in,
• 45:27
  you
• 45:27
  know,
• 45:28
  a
• 45:28
  couple
• 45:28
  hundred
• 45:28
  of
• 45:29
  a
• 45:29
  nine
• 45:29
  weight
• 45:29
  or
• 45:29
  something.
• 45:30
  But
• 45:30
  when
• 45:30
  you're
• 45:31
  bringing
• 45:31
  in
• 45:31
  a
• 45:31
  couple
• 45:32
  hundred
• 45:32
  of
• 45:32
  seven,
• 45:33
  seven
• 45:33
  through
• 45:34
  12,
• 45:34
  like
• 45:35
  you're
• 45:35
  talking
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  pretty
• 45:36
  big
• 45:36
  chunk.
• 45:36
  So
• 45:38
  we're
• 45:38
  just
• 45:38
  trying
• 45:38
  to
• 45:39
  see,
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  know,
• 45:40
  test
• 45:40
  the
• 45:40
  waters.
• 45:41
  We're
• 45:41
  working
• 45:41
  on
• 45:42
  some
• 45:42
  other
• 45:42
  marketing
• 45:42
  stuff
• 45:43
  to
• 45:43
  try
• 45:43
  to
• 45:43
  get
• 45:43
  in
• 45:44
  a
• 45:44
  few
• 45:44
  more
• 45:44
  shops
• 45:45
  and
• 45:45
  things
• 45:45
  like
• 45:45
  that
• 45:45
  and
• 45:46
  really
• 45:47
  get
• 45:48
  some
• 45:48
  samples
• 45:48
  in
• 45:48
  people's
• 45:49
  hands
• 45:49
  so
• 45:49
  that
• 45:50
  we
• 45:50
  kind
• 45:50
  of
• 45:50
  have
• 45:51
  a
• 45:51
  little
• 45:51
  bit
• 45:51
  more
• 45:52
  product
• 45:52
  moving
• 45:53
  across
• 45:54
  the
• 45:54
  country
• 45:54
  versus
• 45:55
  just
• 45:55
  in
• 45:55
  the
• 45:55
  eastern
• 45:56
  side
• 45:56
  where
• 45:56
  we're
• 45:57
  at
• 45:57
  now,
• 45:58
  and
• 45:59
  make
• 45:59
  us
• 45:59
  feel
• 45:59
  a
• 46:00
  little
• 46:00
  bit
• 46:00
  more
• 46:00
  comfortable
• 46:01
  about
• 46:01
  making
• 46:01
  that
• 46:02
  last
• 46:02
  push,
• 46:02
  you
• 46:03
  know.
• 46:03
  So
• 46:04
  yeah,
• 46:04
  I
• 46:04
  got
• 46:05
  it.
• 46:05
  Cause
• 46:05
  it'll,
• 46:05
  it'll
• 46:05
  probably
• 46:06
  more
• 46:06
  than
• 46:06
  double
• 46:06
  your
• 46:07
  inventory
• 46:07
  to,
• 46:08
  to
• 46:08
  make
• 46:08
  that
• 46:08
  purchase,
• 46:09
  right?
• 46:10
  Yeah,
• 46:10
  yeah,
• 46:10
  for
• 46:11
  sure.
• 46:11
  And
• 46:12
  honestly,
• 46:13
  we
• 46:13
  were
• 46:13
  kind
• 46:13
  of,
• 46:14
  you
• 46:14
  know,
• 46:15
  kind
• 46:15
  of
• 46:15
  waiting
• 46:16
  to
• 46:16
  see
• 46:16
  what
• 46:16
  the
• 46:16
  tariff
• 46:16
  thing
• 46:17
  did
• 46:17
  too.
• 46:17
  You
• 46:17
  know,
• 46:18
  you
• 46:18
  don't
• 46:18
  want
• 46:18
  to
• 46:18
  go
• 46:19
  drop
• 46:20
  or
• 46:20
  order
• 46:20
  for
• 46:21
  1400
• 46:21
  rods
• 46:22
  or
• 46:22
  you
• 46:23
  know,
• 46:23
  2000
• 46:24
  rods
• 46:26
  right
• 46:26
  away.
• 46:26
  And
• 46:27
  we,
• 46:27
  we
• 46:27
  got
• 46:27
  a
• 46:28
  decent
• 46:28
  shipment
• 46:28
  of
• 46:29
  rods
• 46:29
  in
• 46:29
  to
• 46:29
  refill
• 46:30
  some
• 46:30
  inventory
• 46:30
  that
• 46:30
  we
• 46:31
  were
• 46:31
  sold
• 46:31
  out
• 46:31
  on
• 46:32
  a
• 46:32
  few
• 46:32
  models,
• 46:34
  you
• 46:34
  know,
• 46:35
  about
• 46:35
  a
• 46:35
  month
• 46:35
  and
• 46:35
  a
• 46:36
  half
• 46:36
  ago
• 46:36
  and
• 46:37
  pleasantly
• 46:38
  Surprised
• 46:38
  that
• 46:38
  the
• 46:38
  tariffs
• 46:39
  didn't
• 46:39
  really
• 46:39
  affect
• 46:40
  us
• 46:40
  as
• 46:40
  bad.
• 46:40
  So
• 46:41
  kind
• 46:41
  of
• 46:41
  refocused
• 46:42
  and,
• 46:42
  like,
• 46:42
  all
• 46:42
  right,
• 46:43
  well,
• 46:43
  maybe
• 46:43
  we
• 46:43
  can
• 46:43
  make
• 46:43
  this
• 46:44
  happen.
• 46:44
  So
• 46:45
  the
• 46:45
  biggest
• 46:46
  thing
• 46:46
  for
• 46:46
  me
• 46:46
  is,
• 46:46
  like,
• 46:48
  just
• 46:48
  making
• 46:48
  sure
• 46:50
  the
• 46:50
  testing's
• 46:51
  exactly
• 46:52
  the
• 46:52
  way
• 46:52
  we
• 46:52
  want
• 46:52
  it.
• 46:53
  So
• 46:53
  I'm
• 46:53
  going
• 46:53
  to
• 46:53
  get
• 46:53
  some
• 46:54
  final
• 46:54
  samples
• 46:55
  back
• 46:55
  from
• 46:55
  the
• 46:56
  R
• 46:56
  D
• 46:56
  facility
• 46:58
  and
• 46:58
  hopefully
• 46:59
  be
• 46:59
  able
• 46:59
  to
• 46:59
  show
• 46:59
  some
• 46:59
  of
• 47:00
  those
• 47:00
  off
• 47:00
  during
• 47:01
  show
• 47:01
  season.
• 47:02
  And
• 47:03
  what
• 47:03
  I'd
• 47:03
  really
• 47:03
  like
• 47:04
  to
• 47:04
  do
• 47:04
  is
• 47:04
  push
• 47:04
  some
• 47:04
  orders
• 47:05
  through
• 47:05
  show
• 47:05
  season
• 47:06
  so
• 47:06
  they
• 47:06
  can,
• 47:06
  you
• 47:07
  know,
• 47:07
  show
• 47:07
  up
• 47:07
  in
• 47:07
  March
• 47:08
  or
• 47:08
  April
• 47:08
  and
• 47:09
  hit
• 47:09
  the
• 47:09
  shelves.
• 47:10
  So,
• 47:11
  yeah,
• 47:11
  absolutely.
• 47:12
  You
• 47:12
  know,
• 47:12
  folks
• 47:13
  may
• 47:13
  not
• 47:13
  know
• 47:13
  that
• 47:13
  you
• 47:13
  are
• 47:14
  also
• 47:14
  the
• 47:14
  founder
• 47:14
  of
• 47:15
  the
• 47:15
  Kentucky
• 47:15
  River
• 47:15
  Muskie
• 47:16
  Classic,
• 47:16
  and
• 47:17
  just
• 47:17
  kind
• 47:17
  of
• 47:17
  curious,
• 47:18
  you
• 47:18
  know,
• 47:18
  when
• 47:18
  did
• 47:18
  you
• 47:18
  get
• 47:18
  the
• 47:19
  fever
• 47:19
  to
• 47:19
  chase
• 47:19
  muskie
• 47:20
  on
• 47:20
  the
• 47:20
  fly?
• 47:22
  Oh,
• 47:22
  man,
• 47:23
  like,
• 47:23
  2015.
• 47:25
  I
• 47:25
  think
• 47:25
  I
• 47:26
  started
• 47:27
  2015
• 47:28
  late,
• 47:29
  like,
• 47:30
  that
• 47:30
  fall,
• 47:30
  and
• 47:30
  then
• 47:31
  it's
• 47:31
  kind
• 47:31
  of
• 47:31
  just.
• 47:32
  Yeah,
• 47:32
  it's
• 47:32
  been
• 47:32
  10
• 47:32
  years
• 47:33
  now.
• 47:33
  So
• 47:35
  I'm,
• 47:36
  you
• 47:36
  know,
• 47:37
  I
• 47:37
  think
• 47:38
  for
• 47:39
  me,
• 47:39
  it's
• 47:39
  a
• 47:39
  heritage
• 47:40
  thing.
• 47:40
  They're
• 47:41
  native
• 47:41
  to
• 47:41
  Kentucky.
• 47:44
  I
• 47:46
  just
• 47:46
  got
• 47:46
  really
• 47:46
  interested.
• 47:47
  Anything
• 47:47
  that's
• 47:48
  super
• 47:48
  challenging
• 47:49
  and
• 47:49
  is,
• 47:49
  like,
• 47:50
  something
• 47:50
  that
• 47:50
  most
• 47:51
  people
• 47:51
  just
• 47:51
  would
• 47:51
  think
• 47:51
  is
• 47:52
  dumb
• 47:52
  and
• 47:52
  pointless,
• 47:53
  those
• 47:53
  are
• 47:53
  the
• 47:54
  things
• 47:54
  that
• 47:54
  I
• 47:54
  get
• 47:54
  attached
• 47:55
  to
• 47:55
  somehow.
• 47:57
  And
• 47:57
  musky
• 47:58
  fishing
• 47:58
  was
• 47:58
  one
• 47:58
  of
• 47:58
  those
• 47:58
  things.
• 47:59
  You
• 47:59
  know,
• 48:00
  it
• 48:01
  was
• 48:01
  a
• 48:01
  challenge.
• 48:01
  It
• 48:02
  was,
• 48:04
  you
• 48:05
  know,
• 48:05
  you
• 48:05
  get
• 48:05
  your
• 48:05
  highs
• 48:06
  and
• 48:06
  your
• 48:06
  lows.
• 48:06
  And
• 48:08
  once
• 48:08
  I
• 48:08
  started
• 48:10
  catching
• 48:10
  a
• 48:10
  few
• 48:10
  fish,
• 48:11
  floating
• 48:12
  some
• 48:12
  beautiful
• 48:13
  rivers
• 48:14
  in.
• 48:14
  In
• 48:14
  my
• 48:15
  home
• 48:15
  state
• 48:15
  and
• 48:17
  learned
• 48:17
  about
• 48:18
  all
• 48:18
  the
• 48:18
  history
• 48:19
  of
• 48:19
  those
• 48:19
  rivers
• 48:19
  with
• 48:20
  the
• 48:20
  Indians
• 48:20
  and,
• 48:21
  you
• 48:21
  know,
• 48:21
  the
• 48:22
  hunting
• 48:22
  and
• 48:23
  the.
• 48:23
  The
• 48:23
  backstories
• 48:24
  of
• 48:25
  all
• 48:25
  these,
• 48:25
  you
• 48:26
  know,
• 48:26
  these
• 48:27
  rivers
• 48:27
  and
• 48:27
  creeks,
• 48:27
  it
• 48:28
  just,
• 48:28
  you
• 48:28
  know,
• 48:29
  it
• 48:29
  kind
• 48:29
  of
• 48:29
  stuck
• 48:29
  with
• 48:30
  me.
• 48:30
  And
• 48:30
  then
• 48:32
  the
• 48:32
  community
• 48:33
  behind
• 48:33
  it,
• 48:33
  too,
• 48:34
  was
• 48:34
  just
• 48:34
  so.
• 48:35
  So
• 48:35
  cool.
• 48:36
  And.
• 48:37
  Yeah,
• 48:38
  just.
• 48:38
  Yeah.
• 48:39
  Just
• 48:39
  was
• 48:39
  kind
• 48:40
  of
• 48:40
  drawn
• 48:40
  to
• 48:40
  it.
• 48:40
  And
• 48:40
  I've
• 48:40
  met
• 48:41
  a
• 48:41
  lot
• 48:41
  of
• 48:41
  awesome
• 48:41
  folks
• 48:42
  along
• 48:42
  the
• 48:42
  way
• 48:45
  because
• 48:45
  of
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  musky
• 48:46
  fishing
• 48:46
  thing.
• 48:46
  I
• 48:47
  mean,
• 48:48
  I
• 48:48
  would
• 48:48
  say,
• 48:48
  if
• 48:49
  anything,
• 48:51
  it's.
• 48:51
  It's
• 48:52
  been
• 48:52
  one
• 48:53
  of
• 48:53
  the
• 48:53
  harder
• 48:53
  hurdles
• 48:54
  for
• 48:54
  us
• 48:54
  to.
• 48:54
  To.
• 48:55
  To
• 48:56
  cover
• 48:57
  or.
• 48:57
  Or
• 48:57
  get
• 48:58
  away
• 48:58
  from.
• 48:58
  Like,
• 48:59
  if
• 48:59
  all
• 49:00
  I
• 49:00
  had
• 49:00
  to
• 49:00
  do
• 49:00
  was
• 49:00
  sell
• 49:00
  musky
• 49:01
  rods,
• 49:01
  I'd
• 49:01
  be
• 49:01
  fine.
• 49:02
  Um,
• 49:03
  just
• 49:03
  trying
• 49:03
  to
• 49:03
  let
• 49:03
  people
• 49:04
  know
• 49:05
  we
• 49:05
  saw
• 49:05
  other
• 49:05
  odds,
• 49:06
  you
• 49:06
  know,
• 49:06
  So
• 49:07
  I
• 49:07
  was
• 49:07
  so
• 49:07
  heavily
• 49:08
  focused
• 49:08
  in
• 49:08
  the
• 49:09
  muskie
• 49:09
  community
• 49:10
  from
• 49:10
  the
• 49:10
  beginning,
• 49:12
  just
• 49:13
  trying
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  get
• 49:13
  our
• 49:13
  name
• 49:13
  out
• 49:14
  there
• 49:14
  to
• 49:14
  the
• 49:14
  world,
• 49:14
  you
• 49:15
  know?
• 49:16
  Yeah.
• 49:16
  Very
• 49:17
  neat.
• 49:17
  So
• 49:17
  tell
• 49:17
  us
• 49:17
  a
• 49:18
  little
• 49:18
  bit
• 49:18
  more
• 49:18
  about
• 49:18
  the
• 49:18
  event.
• 49:20
  Yeah.
• 49:20
  So
• 49:21
  last
• 49:21
  weekend
• 49:22
  In
• 49:23
  February
• 49:25
  started
• 49:25
  two
• 49:25
  years
• 49:26
  ago,
• 49:26
  we
• 49:27
  had
• 49:27
  21
• 49:28
  teams,
• 49:28
  I
• 49:29
  believe
• 49:29
  the
• 49:29
  first
• 49:29
  year.
• 49:31
  The
• 49:31
  second
• 49:32
  year,
• 49:32
  we
• 49:32
  had
• 49:33
  40
• 49:33
  teams.
• 49:33
  Two
• 49:34
  teams
• 49:35
  didn't
• 49:36
  show,
• 49:36
  so
• 49:36
  we
• 49:36
  ended
• 49:37
  up
• 49:37
  with
• 49:37
  38
• 49:37
  total.
• 49:38
  Teams
• 49:38
  and
• 49:40
  112
• 49:42
  anglers.
• 49:43
  So
• 49:44
  huge,
• 49:45
  huge
• 49:46
  growth.
• 49:46
  And
• 49:46
  within
• 49:47
  the
• 49:47
  first
• 49:47
  year,
• 49:49
  the.
• 49:49
  This
• 49:49
  second
• 49:50
  year,
• 49:50
  we
• 49:50
  had
• 49:50
  38
• 49:51
  teams,
• 49:51
  112
• 49:52
  anglers,
• 49:53
  and
• 49:53
  38
• 49:54
  fish
• 49:54
  got
• 49:54
  boated.
• 49:55
  So
• 49:58
  really,
• 49:58
  really
• 49:58
  good
• 49:59
  outcome
• 49:59
  for
• 50:00
  the
• 50:00
  tournament.
• 50:02
  Most
• 50:02
  folks
• 50:03
  didn't
• 50:03
  even
• 50:03
  think
• 50:03
  we
• 50:03
  were
• 50:04
  going
• 50:04
  to
• 50:04
  be
• 50:04
  able
• 50:04
  to
• 50:05
  put
• 50:05
  the
• 50:06
  tournament
• 50:06
  on
• 50:06
  because
• 50:07
  three
• 50:08
  weeks
• 50:08
  before
• 50:08
  the
• 50:09
  tournament,
• 50:09
  we
• 50:09
  had
• 50:10
  like,
• 50:10
  historic,
• 50:11
  like,
• 50:11
  catastrophic
• 50:12
  flooding
• 50:13
  that
• 50:14
  affected
• 50:14
  southern
• 50:15
  Kentucky.
• 50:16
  And
• 50:17
  a
• 50:17
  lot
• 50:17
  of
• 50:17
  the
• 50:17
  waters
• 50:18
  that
• 50:18
  we
• 50:18
  were
• 50:18
  fishing,
• 50:20
  even
• 50:20
  during
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  tournament,
• 50:22
  about
• 50:22
  2/3
• 50:23
  of
• 50:23
  the
• 50:23
  fishable
• 50:24
  water
• 50:25
  was
• 50:26
  just
• 50:26
  not
• 50:26
  fishable
• 50:27
  because
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  rivers
• 50:28
  were
• 50:28
  just
• 50:28
  getting
• 50:29
  blown
• 50:29
  out
• 50:29
  because
• 50:30
  all
• 50:30
  the
• 50:30
  reservoirs
• 50:31
  above
• 50:31
  them
• 50:31
  were
• 50:31
  just
• 50:32
  full.
• 50:32
  So
• 50:33
  the
• 50:33
  dams
• 50:33
  were
• 50:33
  just
• 50:34
  wide
• 50:34
  open,
• 50:34
  you
• 50:34
  know,
• 50:35
  so
• 50:37
  to
• 50:37
  have
• 50:37
  that
• 50:37
  good
• 50:37
  of
• 50:38
  a
• 50:38
  turnout,
• 50:40
  everyone
• 50:40
  had
• 50:40
  a
• 50:40
  blast.
• 50:41
  Everyone
• 50:42
  was
• 50:42
  catching
• 50:42
  fish
• 50:43
  and
• 50:43
  seeing
• 50:43
  fish.
• 50:45
  You
• 50:46
  know,
• 50:46
  it
• 50:47
  was
• 50:47
  cool
• 50:47
  to
• 50:47
  see.
• 50:47
  And
• 50:48
  we're
• 50:48
  going
• 50:48
  to
• 50:48
  continue
• 50:48
  to
• 50:49
  grow
• 50:49
  it
• 50:49
  every
• 50:50
  year
• 50:50
  and
• 50:50
  just
• 50:51
  make
• 50:51
  it
• 50:51
  better
• 50:51
  and
• 50:53
  try
• 50:53
  to
• 50:54
  raise
• 50:54
  as
• 50:54
  much
• 50:54
  money
• 50:55
  for
• 50:55
  the
• 50:55
  Muskies
• 50:55
  Inc.
• 50:56
  Chapter,
• 50:57
  chapter
• 50:57
  52,
• 50:58
  the
• 50:58
  Daniel
• 50:58
  Boone
• 50:59
  Chapter.
• 51:01
  We're,
• 51:03
  you
• 51:03
  know,
• 51:03
  it's.
• 51:05
  It
• 51:05
  was
• 51:06
  an
• 51:06
  idea,
• 51:06
  and
• 51:07
  we're
• 51:07
  trying
• 51:07
  to
• 51:08
  figure
• 51:08
  out
• 51:08
  ways
• 51:08
  to
• 51:09
  help
• 51:09
  them
• 51:09
  raise
• 51:10
  some
• 51:10
  more
• 51:10
  money.
• 51:12
  And
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  growth
• 51:13
  of
• 51:13
  the.
• 51:13
  The
• 51:14
  growth
• 51:14
  of
• 51:14
  the
• 51:14
  tournament
• 51:15
  has
• 51:15
  actually
• 51:16
  got
• 51:16
  us
• 51:16
  a
• 51:17
  seat
• 51:17
  at
• 51:17
  the
• 51:17
  table
• 51:18
  with
• 51:18
  some
• 51:18
  of
• 51:19
  the
• 51:19
  fisheries
• 51:20
  biologists
• 51:20
  and
• 51:21
  people
• 51:21
  that
• 51:22
  we
• 51:22
  actually
• 51:22
  need
• 51:22
  to
• 51:23
  be
• 51:23
  talking
• 51:23
  with
• 51:23
  to
• 51:24
  make
• 51:24
  some
• 51:24
  changes
• 51:25
  because
• 51:25
  we've
• 51:25
  had
• 51:25
  some
• 51:26
  really
• 51:26
  bad
• 51:26
  stocking
• 51:27
  years.
• 51:28
  You
• 51:29
  know,
• 51:29
  Covid
• 51:29
  didn't
• 51:30
  help,
• 51:30
  and
• 51:30
  then
• 51:31
  it
• 51:31
  kind
• 51:31
  of
• 51:31
  just
• 51:33
  snowballed
• 51:33
  from
• 51:34
  there.
• 51:35
  So
• 51:35
  we're
• 51:35
  trying
• 51:35
  to.
• 51:37
  Trying
• 51:37
  to
• 51:38
  make
• 51:38
  some
• 51:38
  changes.
• 51:39
  We've
• 51:40
  got
• 51:40
  the
• 51:41
  hatchery
• 51:42
  there
• 51:42
  at
• 51:42
  the
• 51:42
  bottom
• 51:42
  of
• 51:43
  cave.
• 51:43
  Ron
• 51:44
  has
• 51:44
  had
• 51:44
  a
• 51:44
  lot
• 51:44
  of
• 51:45
  water
• 51:45
  problems
• 51:45
  the
• 51:46
  last
• 51:46
  few
• 51:46
  years
• 51:48
  just
• 51:48
  with
• 51:49
  algae
• 51:50
  blooms
• 51:50
  and
• 51:50
  things
• 51:51
  like
• 51:51
  that.
• 51:51
  So
• 51:51
  the,
• 51:52
  the
• 51:53
  fish
• 51:54
  health
• 51:54
  has
• 51:54
  been
• 51:55
  bad,
• 51:55
  and
• 51:56
  they're.
• 51:56
  They're
• 51:57
  going
• 51:57
  to
• 51:57
  change
• 51:57
  some
• 51:57
  of
• 51:58
  that
• 51:58
  up
• 51:59
  and
• 51:59
  grow
• 51:59
  some
• 51:59
  muskies
• 52:00
  in
• 52:00
  a
• 52:00
  different
• 52:01
  facility
• 52:01
  that
• 52:01
  has
• 52:01
  a
• 52:02
  little
• 52:02
  bit
• 52:02
  better
• 52:02
  water
• 52:03
  situation
• 52:05
  to
• 52:05
  help
• 52:05
  us
• 52:05
  with
• 52:06
  our
• 52:06
  stocking.
• 52:06
  So,
• 52:07
  you
• 52:08
  know,
• 52:08
  none
• 52:08
  of
• 52:08
  that
• 52:08
  would
• 52:08
  have
• 52:09
  been
• 52:09
  possible
• 52:09
  without
• 52:11
  multiple
• 52:11
  tourism
• 52:12
  boards
• 52:13
  noticing
• 52:14
  how
• 52:14
  many
• 52:14
  people
• 52:14
  were
• 52:15
  coming
• 52:15
  through
• 52:15
  their
• 52:15
  city
• 52:16
  and
• 52:16
  renting
• 52:16
  airbnbs
• 52:17
  and
• 52:17
  buying
• 52:18
  fuel
• 52:18
  and
• 52:19
  hauling
• 52:19
  their
• 52:20
  rafts
• 52:20
  and
• 52:21
  jet
• 52:21
  boats
• 52:21
  and
• 52:22
  stuff.
• 52:22
  Like,
• 52:22
  people
• 52:23
  immediately
• 52:24
  understood,
• 52:24
  like,
• 52:24
  man,
• 52:25
  there's
• 52:25
  a
• 52:25
  lot
• 52:25
  of
• 52:25
  people
• 52:26
  coming
• 52:26
  for
• 52:26
  this,
• 52:26
  you
• 52:27
  know,
• 52:27
  so
• 52:28
  it
• 52:28
  was.
• 52:29
  It's
• 52:29
  been
• 52:29
  a
• 52:30
  huge,
• 52:30
  huge
• 52:30
  help.
• 52:31
  And
• 52:31
  we're
• 52:31
  only
• 52:31
  going
• 52:31
  to
• 52:32
  continue
• 52:32
  to
• 52:32
  hopefully
• 52:33
  raise
• 52:33
  more
• 52:34
  and
• 52:34
  more
• 52:34
  money
• 52:34
  to,
• 52:36
  you
• 52:36
  know,
• 52:36
  keep
• 52:36
  our
• 52:37
  conservation
• 52:37
  good
• 52:37
  for
• 52:38
  the
• 52:38
  muskies.
• 52:39
  Very,
• 52:39
  very
• 52:39
  neat.
• 52:40
  And
• 52:40
  so
• 52:40
  folks
• 52:40
  wanted
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  get
• 52:41
  more
• 52:41
  information
• 52:42
  for
• 52:42
  February
• 52:42
  of
• 52:43
  2026.
• 52:43
  Where
• 52:44
  should
• 52:44
  they
• 52:44
  go?
• 52:45
  You
• 52:45
  can
• 52:46
  go
• 52:46
  to
• 52:46
  The
• 52:46
  Kentucky
• 52:47
  River
• 52:47
  Muskie
• 52:48
  Classic.
• 52:49
  Instagram
• 52:49
  or
• 52:50
  Facebook.
• 52:51
  We
• 52:51
  don't
• 52:51
  currently
• 52:52
  have
• 52:52
  a
• 52:52
  website
• 52:54
  but
• 52:54
  it's
• 52:55
  managed
• 52:55
  all
• 52:56
  through
• 52:56
  social
• 52:56
  media.
• 52:57
  It's
• 52:57
  been.
• 52:58
  Been
• 52:58
  great.
• 52:59
  Easy
• 53:00
  to
• 53:00
  get
• 53:00
  a
• 53:00
  hold
• 53:00
  of
• 53:00
  us.
• 53:01
  Super
• 53:02
  small
• 53:02
  group.
• 53:03
  So
• 53:03
  anybody
• 53:04
  needs
• 53:04
  any
• 53:04
  information,
• 53:06
  you
• 53:06
  know,
• 53:06
  obviously
• 53:07
  the
• 53:07
  Instagram
• 53:08
  or,
• 53:08
  or
• 53:09
  Facebook
• 53:10
  page
• 53:10
  and
• 53:10
  then
• 53:11
  obviously
• 53:12
  you
• 53:12
  can
• 53:12
  reach
• 53:12
  out
• 53:12
  to
• 53:12
  the
• 53:12
  Wolf
• 53:13
  Rod
• 53:13
  co
• 53:13
  page
• 53:14
  too
• 53:14
  and
• 53:14
  we
• 53:14
  can
• 53:14
  point
• 53:14
  you
• 53:15
  in
• 53:15
  the
• 53:15
  right
• 53:15
  direction
• 53:16
  on
• 53:16
  that.
• 53:17
  It's
• 53:17
  just,
• 53:19
  yeah,
• 53:19
  I
• 53:20
  mean
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:20
  just
• 53:20
  a
• 53:20
  really
• 53:21
  cool,
• 53:22
  it's
• 53:22
  such
• 53:22
  a
• 53:22
  cool
• 53:23
  river
• 53:23
  system
• 53:24
  with
• 53:25
  you
• 53:25
  know,
• 53:25
  I
• 53:26
  was
• 53:26
  super,
• 53:28
  I
• 53:28
  was
• 53:29
  super
• 53:29
  hard
• 53:30
  on
• 53:30
  myself.
• 53:31
  You
• 53:31
  know,
• 53:32
  the
• 53:32
  musky
• 53:32
  zinc
• 53:32
  guys
• 53:33
  were
• 53:33
  wanting
• 53:33
  to
• 53:33
  do
• 53:34
  it
• 53:34
  earlier
• 53:35
  and
• 53:35
  you
• 53:36
  know,
• 53:36
  I
• 53:36
  was
• 53:36
  super
• 53:36
  worried
• 53:37
  about,
• 53:37
  you
• 53:37
  know,
• 53:39
  affecting
• 53:39
  the
• 53:40
  fishery
• 53:41
  and
• 53:41
  then
• 53:41
  I,
• 53:42
  we
• 53:42
  kind
• 53:42
  of
• 53:42
  sat
• 53:43
  down
• 53:43
  and
• 53:43
  we're
• 53:43
  just
• 53:43
  like,
• 53:44
  man,
• 53:44
  there's
• 53:44
  like
• 53:44
  over
• 53:45
  500
• 53:45
  miles
• 53:46
  of
• 53:46
  fishable
• 53:46
  water.
• 53:47
  Like
• 53:48
  it's
• 53:49
  going
• 53:49
  to
• 53:49
  be
• 53:50
  like
• 53:51
  the
• 53:51
  fisheries
• 53:51
  not
• 53:52
  going
• 53:52
  to
• 53:52
  be
• 53:52
  bothered
• 53:53
  by,
• 53:53
  you
• 53:53
  know,
• 53:54
  40,
• 53:54
  40
• 53:55
  boats
• 53:55
  showing
• 53:55
  up
• 53:56
  to
• 53:56
  fish
• 53:56
  for
• 53:57
  two
• 53:57
  days,
• 53:57
  you
• 53:57
  know,
• 53:58
  so.
• 53:59
  And
• 53:59
  it,
• 54:00
  it's
• 54:00
  been
• 54:00
  great.
• 54:01
  It's,
• 54:01
  it
• 54:01
  really
• 54:01
  has
• 54:02
  been
• 54:02
  great.
• 54:02
  It's,
• 54:02
  it's
• 54:03
  a
• 54:03
  beautiful
• 54:03
  river
• 54:04
  system.
• 54:04
  The
• 54:04
  Kentucky
• 54:05
  river
• 54:06
  drainage
• 54:06
  is,
• 54:07
  you
• 54:08
  know,
• 54:08
  it's,
• 54:08
  it's
• 54:08
  huge.
• 54:09
  There's
• 54:09
  so
• 54:09
  many
• 54:10
  tribs.
• 54:10
  There's
• 54:11
  three
• 54:11
  main
• 54:11
  rivers
• 54:12
  that
• 54:12
  flow
• 54:12
  into
• 54:13
  one
• 54:13
  big
• 54:13
  river
• 54:13
  and
• 54:13
  it's
• 54:14
  just,
• 54:14
  there's
• 54:14
  just
• 54:15
  a
• 54:15
  lot
• 54:15
  of
• 54:15
  water
• 54:16
  and
• 54:16
  it's
• 54:16
  all
• 54:17
  filled
• 54:17
  with
• 54:17
  fish.
• 54:18
  So
• 54:20
  yeah,
• 54:20
  definitely
• 54:23
  look
• 54:23
  for
• 54:23
  sign
• 54:23
  ups
• 54:24
  soon.
• 54:24
  It's
• 54:24
  coming
• 54:24
  around
• 54:25
  the
• 54:25
  corner.
• 54:25
  I
• 54:25
  guess
• 54:27
  we'll,
• 54:27
  we'll
• 54:27
  start,
• 54:28
  we'll
• 54:28
  start
• 54:28
  getting
• 54:29
  registrations
• 54:30
  out
• 54:30
  about
• 54:30
  six
• 54:30
  months
• 54:31
  before
• 54:31
  the
• 54:31
  event
• 54:32
  and
• 54:33
  it's
• 54:33
  going
• 54:33
  to
• 54:33
  fill
• 54:33
  up.
• 54:34
  Filled
• 54:34
  up
• 54:34
  last
• 54:34
  year.
• 54:35
  So
• 54:35
  I'd
• 54:36
  imagine
• 54:36
  it's
• 54:36
  going
• 54:36
  to
• 54:36
  fill
• 54:36
  up
• 54:37
  again
• 54:37
  and
• 54:37
  then
• 54:38
  you
• 54:39
  know,
• 54:39
  one
• 54:39
  of
• 54:39
  the
• 54:40
  favorites
• 54:40
  from
• 54:40
  all
• 54:41
  the
• 54:41
  people
• 54:41
  that
• 54:41
  come
• 54:41
  there,
• 54:43
  Black
• 54:43
  Barn
• 54:43
  Barbecue.
• 54:44
  Local,
• 54:45
  local
• 54:46
  barbecue
• 54:46
  place.
• 54:47
  They
• 54:47
  do
• 54:47
  our,
• 54:47
  they
• 54:47
  do
• 54:48
  our
• 54:48
  food
• 54:48
  every
• 54:48
  year
• 54:48
  and
• 54:49
  they
• 54:49
  do
• 54:49
  it
• 54:49
  upright.
• 54:50
  They
• 54:50
  smoke
• 54:51
  chicken
• 54:51
  wings
• 54:51
  and
• 54:52
  gouda
• 54:52
  Mac
• 54:52
  and
• 54:52
  cheese
• 54:53
  and
• 54:53
  cornbread
• 54:54
  and
• 54:54
  brisket.
• 54:55
  The
• 54:55
  whole
• 54:55
  deal.
• 54:55
  We,
• 54:55
  we
• 54:56
  do
• 54:56
  it
• 54:56
  upright
• 54:56
  Kentucky
• 54:57
  style.
• 54:57
  So
• 54:59
  yeah,
• 54:59
  better
• 55:00
  get
• 55:00
  a
• 55:00
  team,
• 55:01
  get
• 55:01
  a
• 55:01
  team
• 55:01
  figured
• 55:02
  out.
• 55:02
  Three
• 55:02
  man
• 55:03
  teams,
• 55:03
  two
• 55:03
  man
• 55:04
  teams,
• 55:04
  whatever
• 55:04
  you
• 55:04
  want
• 55:05
  to
• 55:05
  do.
• 55:05
  And
• 55:07
  get
• 55:07
  signed
• 55:07
  up
• 55:07
  when
• 55:07
  you
• 55:08
  see
• 55:08
  that
• 55:08
  registration
• 55:09
  pop
• 55:09
  up.
• 55:09
  Because
• 55:09
  it
• 55:09
  won't,
• 55:10
  it
• 55:10
  won't
• 55:10
  take
• 55:10
  long
• 55:11
  to
• 55:11
  fill
• 55:11
  up.
• 55:11
  Yeah.
• 55:12
  Well,
• 55:12
  there
• 55:12
  you
• 55:12
  go.
• 55:12
  And
• 55:13
  so
• 55:13
  where
• 55:13
  can
• 55:13
  folks
• 55:13
  find
• 55:14
  you
• 55:14
  on
• 55:15
  the
• 55:15
  show
• 55:15
  circuit
• 55:15
  in
• 55:15
  20,
• 55:16
  26?
• 55:17
  Oh
• 55:18
  man.
• 55:19
  So
• 55:19
  we're
• 55:20
  going
• 55:20
  to
• 55:20
  try
• 55:20
  to
• 55:20
  hit
• 55:20
  a
• 55:20
  couple
• 55:21
  of
• 55:21
  the
• 55:21
  big
• 55:21
  fly
• 55:21
  fishing
• 55:22
  shows.
• 55:24
  I
• 55:24
  don't
• 55:24
  know
• 55:24
  exactly
• 55:25
  which
• 55:25
  ones
• 55:25
  yet.
• 55:25
  We're
• 55:26
  trying
• 55:26
  to
• 55:26
  be
• 55:26
  in
• 55:26
  Atlanta
• 55:27
  for
• 55:27
  sure.
• 55:30
  Denver's
• 55:31
  another
• 55:31
  one,
• 55:31
  but
• 55:31
  it's.
• 55:31
  I
• 55:32
  think
• 55:32
  it's
• 55:32
  gonna.
• 55:33
  It
• 55:33
  overlapped
• 55:34
  with
• 55:34
  the
• 55:34
  Trout
• 55:35
  Fest
• 55:35
  and
• 55:36
  the
• 55:36
  Guadalupe
• 55:38
  River
• 55:38
  Trout
• 55:38
  Fest
• 55:39
  last
• 55:39
  year
• 55:40
  down
• 55:41
  in
• 55:41
  New
• 55:41
  Braunfels,
• 55:42
  Texas.
• 55:44
  So
• 55:45
  we're
• 55:45
  still
• 55:45
  trying
• 55:45
  to
• 55:45
  figure
• 55:46
  out
• 55:46
  final
• 55:47
  calendar
• 55:47
  on
• 55:48
  that.
• 55:48
  We'll
• 55:49
  definitely
• 55:49
  be
• 55:49
  back
• 55:49
  in
• 55:50
  Toronto
• 55:50
  again
• 55:50
  at
• 55:51
  the
• 55:51
  Sportsman
• 55:51
  show.
• 55:53
  And
• 55:53
  then,
• 55:56
  man,
• 55:57
  I
• 55:57
  don't
• 55:57
  know.
• 55:57
  We
• 55:57
  did
• 55:58
  like
• 55:58
  nine
• 55:58
  shows
• 55:58
  this
• 55:59
  year.
• 55:59
  It
• 55:59
  was
• 55:59
  pretty
• 55:59
  much
• 56:00
  full
• 56:01
  bore
• 56:01
  from
• 56:01
  like
• 56:03
  January
• 56:04
  to
• 56:04
  the
• 56:05
  end
• 56:05
  of
• 56:05
  March.
• 56:05
  So
• 56:07
  we
• 56:07
  did.
• 56:08
  We're
• 56:08
  going
• 56:08
  to
• 56:08
  be
• 56:08
  at
• 56:09
  the
• 56:09
  Virginia
• 56:09
  Fly
• 56:10
  Fishing
• 56:10
  and
• 56:10
  Wine
• 56:10
  Festival.
• 56:13
  That's
• 56:13
  in
• 56:13
  Doswell,
• 56:14
  Virginia.
• 56:14
  That'll
• 56:15
  be
• 56:15
  the
• 56:15
  first
• 56:15
  one
• 56:16
  we're
• 56:16
  at.
• 56:18
  And
• 56:18
  then
• 56:18
  we
• 56:18
  typically,
• 56:19
  we
• 56:19
  always
• 56:19
  do
• 56:20
  the
• 56:20
  Kentucky
• 56:20
  and
• 56:20
  a
• 56:21
  fly
• 56:21
  fishing
• 56:21
  show
• 56:22
  that's
• 56:23
  just,
• 56:23
  that's
• 56:24
  just
• 56:24
  south
• 56:24
  of
• 56:24
  Louisville.
• 56:25
  That's
• 56:25
  more
• 56:25
  of
• 56:25
  a
• 56:25
  local
• 56:25
  show,
• 56:26
  but
• 56:27
  it's,
• 56:27
  it's
• 56:27
  usually
• 56:28
  on
• 56:28
  a
• 56:28
  weekend
• 56:29
  where
• 56:29
  then
• 56:29
  there's
• 56:29
  no
• 56:29
  other
• 56:29
  big
• 56:30
  shows
• 56:30
  going
• 56:30
  on.
• 56:32
  And
• 56:32
  then
• 56:33
  obviously
• 56:33
  Trout
• 56:34
  Fest,
• 56:35
  we
• 56:35
  did
• 56:36
  the
• 56:36
  Midwest
• 56:36
  Fly
• 56:37
  Fishing
• 56:37
  Expo
• 56:38
  up
• 56:38
  in
• 56:38
  Warren,
• 56:38
  Michigan
• 56:39
  last
• 56:39
  year,
• 56:40
  then
• 56:40
  the
• 56:40
  Toronto
• 56:41
  show
• 56:41
  and
• 56:41
  then
• 56:42
  we
• 56:42
  did
• 56:42
  the
• 56:42
  Maggie
• 56:42
  Valley
• 56:43
  Fly
• 56:43
  Fishing
• 56:43
  Festival
• 56:44
  this
• 56:44
  year
• 56:44
  as
• 56:44
  well.
• 56:44
  So
• 56:45
  that's
• 56:45
  our
• 56:45
  second
• 56:45
  year
• 56:45
  doing
• 56:46
  that.
• 56:46
  So
• 56:47
  probably
• 56:47
  honestly
• 56:48
  at
• 56:48
  this
• 56:48
  point
• 56:49
  we're
• 56:49
  going
• 56:49
  to
• 56:50
  try
• 56:50
  to
• 56:50
  stick
• 56:50
  to
• 56:50
  all
• 56:50
  of
• 56:51
  the
• 56:51
  shows
• 56:51
  that
• 56:51
  we
• 56:51
  have
• 56:52
  been
• 56:52
  doing
• 56:52
  and
• 56:52
  then
• 56:53
  add
• 56:53
  on.
• 56:53
  So
• 56:55
  just
• 56:55
  going
• 56:55
  to
• 56:56
  try
• 56:56
  to
• 56:56
  keep
• 56:56
  growing
• 56:56
  it
• 56:57
  and
• 56:57
  letting
• 56:58
  people
• 56:58
  tell
• 56:59
  people
• 56:59
  about
• 56:59
  our
• 57:00
  product,
• 57:00
  man,
• 57:00
  getting
• 57:00
  it
• 57:01
  in
• 57:01
  people's
• 57:01
  hands.
• 57:03
  Hopefully
• 57:04
  we
• 57:04
  can
• 57:04
  get
• 57:04
  a
• 57:04
  decent
• 57:05
  booth
• 57:05
  at
• 57:05
  a
• 57:05
  couple
• 57:05
  of
• 57:05
  these
• 57:06
  bigger
• 57:06
  shows.
• 57:07
  We
• 57:08
  are
• 57:08
  even
• 57:08
  talking
• 57:08
  about
• 57:09
  potentially
• 57:09
  trying
• 57:09
  to
• 57:09
  go
• 57:10
  to
• 57:10
  ICAST
• 57:10
  this
• 57:11
  year
• 57:11
  or
• 57:11
  next
• 57:11
  year.
• 57:13
  Just,
• 57:15
  you
• 57:15
  know,
• 57:15
  get
• 57:16
  in
• 57:16
  front
• 57:16
  of
• 57:16
  more
• 57:17
  of
• 57:17
  the
• 57:17
  industry,
• 57:17
  so
• 57:18
  to
• 57:18
  speak.
• 57:19
  Got
• 57:20
  it.
• 57:20
  And
• 57:20
  before
• 57:20
  I
• 57:20
  let
• 57:21
  you
• 57:21
  go
• 57:21
  tonight,
• 57:21
  Dave,
• 57:21
  is
• 57:22
  there
• 57:22
  anything
• 57:22
  else
• 57:22
  you'd
• 57:22
  like
• 57:22
  to
• 57:23
  share
• 57:23
  with
• 57:23
  our
• 57:23
  listeners?
• 57:24
  Man,
• 57:25
  I
• 57:25
  just,
• 57:26
  you
• 57:26
  know,
• 57:27
  we're,
• 57:27
  we're
• 57:27
  here
• 57:28
  for
• 57:28
  the
• 57:28
  long
• 57:28
  haul.
• 57:30
  I.
• 57:32
  It's,
• 57:33
  it's,
• 57:33
  it's
• 57:33
  a,
• 57:34
  it's
• 57:34
  a
• 57:34
  definitely
• 57:34
  a
• 57:35
  cutthroat
• 57:35
  world.
• 57:35
  You
• 57:36
  know,
• 57:36
  the
• 57:36
  industry
• 57:36
  as
• 57:37
  a
• 57:37
  whole
• 57:37
  is
• 57:37
  just,
• 57:39
  it's,
• 57:41
  it's
• 57:42
  always
• 57:42
  changing.
• 57:42
  But
• 57:43
  I
• 57:43
  think
• 57:44
  that,
• 57:45
  you
• 57:46
  know,
• 57:46
  if
• 57:46
  you
• 57:46
  have
• 57:46
  an
• 57:47
  opportunity
• 57:47
  to,
• 57:48
  to
• 57:48
  get
• 57:48
  a
• 57:48
  hold
• 57:48
  of
• 57:48
  one
• 57:49
  of
• 57:49
  our
• 57:49
  rods,
• 57:50
  test
• 57:50
  it
• 57:50
  out
• 57:51
  and
• 57:51
  I
• 57:52
  think
• 57:52
  you'll
• 57:52
  be
• 57:52
  pleasantly
• 57:53
  surprised
• 57:53
  with,
• 57:55
  with
• 57:55
  its
• 57:55
  performance
• 57:56
  and
• 57:57
  just
• 57:57
  keep
• 57:58
  an
• 57:58
  eye
• 57:58
  on
• 57:58
  our,
• 57:58
  on
• 57:59
  our
• 57:59
  website.
• 57:59
  Another
• 58:00
  thing,
• 58:01
  you
• 58:01
  know,
• 58:01
  we're
• 58:02
  working
• 58:02
  on,
• 58:02
  I
• 58:03
  told
• 58:03
  you
• 58:04
  briefly
• 58:04
  touched
• 58:04
  base
• 58:05
  that
• 58:05
  we're
• 58:05
  working
• 58:05
  on
• 58:05
  some
• 58:05
  new
• 58:06
  marketing
• 58:06
  stuff
• 58:07
  and
• 58:08
  been
• 58:08
  trying
• 58:08
  to
• 58:08
  film
• 58:08
  some
• 58:09
  YouTube
• 58:10
  stuff.
• 58:10
  So
• 58:12
  we
• 58:12
  do
• 58:12
  have
• 58:12
  a
• 58:13
  YouTube
• 58:13
  channel.
• 58:13
  It
• 58:13
  doesn't
• 58:14
  have
• 58:14
  a
• 58:14
  lot
• 58:14
  of
• 58:14
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• 58:14
  on
• 58:14
  it
• 58:15
  now,
• 58:15
  but
• 58:16
  we're
• 58:16
  going
• 58:16
  to
• 58:16
  start,
• 58:17
  we're
• 58:17
  going
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  have
• 58:17
  some
• 58:17
  teasers
• 58:18
  out
• 58:18
  there
• 58:18
  soon.
• 58:18
  We're
• 58:19
  doing
• 58:19
  a,
• 58:19
  we're
• 58:19
  doing
• 58:19
  a
• 58:20
  new
• 58:20
  series
• 58:20
  on
• 58:20
  YouTube
• 58:21
  called
• 58:21
  the
• 58:21
  Wolf
• 58:22
  Pack
• 58:22
  Series.
• 58:22
  So
• 58:24
  it's
• 58:24
  essentially
• 58:24
  just
• 58:25
  a
• 58:25
  series
• 58:25
  of
• 58:26
  YouTube
• 58:26
  episodes
• 58:27
  where
• 58:28
  I
• 58:28
  travel
• 58:28
  around
• 58:29
  the
• 58:29
  country
• 58:29
  and
• 58:30
  meet
• 58:30
  fly
• 58:31
  shops
• 58:31
  that
• 58:31
  carry
• 58:31
  our
• 58:32
  products
• 58:32
  or
• 58:33
  fish
• 58:33
  with
• 58:34
  guide
• 58:34
  companies
• 58:35
  that
• 58:35
  fish
• 58:36
  our
• 58:36
  stuff
• 58:36
  on
• 58:36
  their
• 58:36
  boats.
• 58:37
  And
• 58:39
  yeah,
• 58:39
  it's
• 58:39
  going
• 58:39
  to
• 58:39
  be
• 58:40
  real,
• 58:40
  professionally
• 58:40
  done.
• 58:41
  Got
• 58:41
  some
• 58:42
  great
• 58:42
  film
• 58:42
  folks
• 58:43
  helping
• 58:44
  along
• 58:44
  the
• 58:44
  way
• 58:45
  with,
• 58:46
  you
• 58:46
  know,
• 58:47
  way
• 58:47
  more
• 58:47
  expensive
• 58:48
  stuff
• 58:48
  than
• 58:48
  I
• 58:49
  even
• 58:49
  know
• 58:49
  anything
• 58:50
  about.
• 58:50
  But
• 58:51
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• 58:52
  let
• 58:52
  them
• 58:52
  capture
• 58:53
  all
• 58:53
  the
• 58:53
  stuff.
• 58:53
  I'm
• 58:54
  just
• 58:54
  gonna,
• 58:55
  you
• 58:55
  know,
• 58:55
  do
• 58:56
  my
• 58:56
  thing
• 58:56
  which
• 58:56
  is
• 58:57
  talk
• 58:57
  to
• 58:58
  the
• 58:58
  shops
• 58:58
  and
• 58:58
  introduce
• 58:59
  people
• 58:59
  and
• 59:00
  do
• 59:00
  some
• 59:01
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• 59:01
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• 59:01
  hopefully
• 59:01
  catch
• 59:02
  some
• 59:02
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• 59:02
  But
• 59:02
  yeah,
• 59:03
  look
• 59:03
  for
• 59:03
  the
• 59:03
  Wolf
• 59:04
  Pack
• 59:04
  series.
• 59:04
  We've
• 59:04
  got
• 59:05
  some,
• 59:05
  got
• 59:06
  some
• 59:06
  cool
• 59:06
  stuff
• 59:06
  on
• 59:07
  this
• 59:07
  on
• 59:07
  the
• 59:07
  schedule.
• 59:08
  We'll
• 59:08
  be
• 59:08
  up
• 59:08
  in
• 59:08
  Canada
• 59:10
  doing
• 59:11
  some
• 59:11
  filming
• 59:11
  with
• 59:11
  some
• 59:12
  of
• 59:12
  the
• 59:12
  folks
• 59:12
  that
• 59:12
  I've
• 59:12
  met
• 59:13
  over
• 59:13
  the
• 59:13
  years.
• 59:14
  And
• 59:14
  yeah,
• 59:15
  should
• 59:15
  be
• 59:15
  a
• 59:15
  cool
• 59:15
  series
• 59:16
  and
• 59:17
  hopefully
• 59:17
  another
• 59:18
  avenue
• 59:19
  for
• 59:19
  folks
• 59:20
  to
• 59:20
  learn
• 59:21
  more
• 59:21
  about
• 59:21
  us
• 59:22
  as
• 59:22
  a
• 59:22
  brand
• 59:23
  and
• 59:23
  more
• 59:24
  about
• 59:24
  how,
• 59:25
  how
• 59:25
  our,
• 59:26
  you
• 59:26
  know,
• 59:26
  what
• 59:26
  our
• 59:27
  vibes
• 59:27
  are
• 59:27
  and
• 59:28
  what
• 59:28
  kind
• 59:28
  of
• 59:28
  people
• 59:28
  we
• 59:29
  are.
• 59:29
  So
• 59:30
  yeah,
• 59:30
  and
• 59:30
  I'll
• 59:30
  drop
• 59:30
  a
• 59:31
  link
• 59:31
  to
• 59:31
  your
• 59:31
  YouTube
• 59:31
  channel
• 59:32
  in
• 59:32
  the
• 59:32
  show
• 59:32
  notes.
• 59:32
  And
• 59:33
  are
• 59:33
  there
• 59:33
  other
• 59:33
  places
• 59:34
  that
• 59:34
  folks
• 59:34
  should
• 59:34
  go
• 59:35
  to
• 59:35
  follow
• 59:35
  Wolf
• 59:36
  Rodco,
• 59:36
  get
• 59:37
  updates
• 59:37
  on
• 59:37
  the
• 59:37
  Kentucky
• 59:38
  River
• 59:38
  Muskie
• 59:38
  Classic
• 59:39
  and
• 59:39
  just
• 59:39
  generally
• 59:40
  follow
• 59:40
  your
• 59:40
  adventures
• 59:41
  on
• 59:41
  the
• 59:41
  water?
• 59:42
  Yeah,
• 59:42
  man,
• 59:43
  the
• 59:43
  Wolf
• 59:44
  Rod
• 59:44
  Company,
• 59:44
  Instagram
• 59:46
  and
• 59:46
  Facebook,
• 59:48
  definitely
• 59:48
  Instagram's,
• 59:49
  we're
• 59:49
  a
• 59:49
  little
• 59:49
  heavier
• 59:50
  on
• 59:50
  that.
• 59:51
  It's
• 59:52
  just
• 59:52
  a
• 59:53
  lot
• 59:53
  easier
• 59:53
  for
• 59:53
  us
• 59:53
  to
• 59:54
  manage
• 59:54
  as
• 59:54
  a
• 59:54
  small
• 59:55
  company.
• 59:56
  And
• 59:57
  then
• 59:57
  the
• 59:58
  Kentucky
• 59:58
  River
• 59:59
  Muskie
• 59:59
  Classic,
• 1:00:00
  Instagram
• 1:00:00
  as
• 1:00:00
  well.
• 1:00:01
  But
• 1:00:02
  yeah,
• 1:00:02
  definitely
• 1:00:03
  the
• 1:00:04
  website
• 1:00:04
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• 1:00:04
  rodco.com
• 1:00:05
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• 1:00:06
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• 1:00:06
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• 1:00:06
  our
• 1:00:06
  stuff.
• 1:00:07
  Got
• 1:00:07
  some
• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:08
  hats.
• 1:00:09
  Keep,
• 1:00:10
  keep
• 1:00:10
  an
• 1:00:10
  eye
• 1:00:10
  out
• 1:00:10
  for
• 1:00:11
  some,
• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:12
  up
• 1:00:13
  down
• 1:00:13
  the
• 1:00:13
  road.
• 1:00:15
  And
• 1:00:15
  then
• 1:00:15
  I
• 1:00:16
  guess
• 1:00:16
  the
• 1:00:16
  only
• 1:00:16
  other
• 1:00:16
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• 1:00:17
  I
• 1:00:18
  would
• 1:00:18
  ask
• 1:00:18
  is
• 1:00:18
  if
• 1:00:19
  anyone
• 1:00:19
  is,
• 1:00:20
  you
• 1:00:20
  know,
• 1:00:20
  a
• 1:00:21
  shop
• 1:00:21
  owner
• 1:00:22
  or
• 1:00:23
  you
• 1:00:23
  know,
• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
  guides.
• 1:00:24
  If
• 1:00:25
  you're
• 1:00:25
  interested
• 1:00:25
  in
• 1:00:26
  learning
• 1:00:26
  more
• 1:00:26
  about
• 1:00:27
  what
• 1:00:27
  we
• 1:00:27
  have
• 1:00:27
  to
• 1:00:27
  offer
• 1:00:28
  and
• 1:00:29
  what
• 1:00:29
  you
• 1:00:29
  know,
• 1:00:29
  we've
• 1:00:29
  got
• 1:00:30
  some
• 1:00:30
  great
• 1:00:30
  dealer
• 1:00:31
  pricing,
• 1:00:32
  super
• 1:00:33
  competitive
• 1:00:34
  pricing
• 1:00:35
  and
• 1:00:35
  our
• 1:00:35
  warranties
• 1:00:36
  second
• 1:00:36
  to
• 1:00:37
  none.
• 1:00:37
  So
• 1:00:38
  you're
• 1:00:39
  interested
• 1:00:39
  in
• 1:00:39
  getting
• 1:00:39
  us
• 1:00:39
  in
• 1:00:40
  your
• 1:00:40
  shop,
• 1:00:41
  hit
• 1:00:41
  me
• 1:00:41
  up
• 1:00:42
  Wolf
• 1:00:43
  radco
• 1:00:43
  at
• 1:00:43
  gmail.
• 1:00:45
  Be
• 1:00:46
  happy
• 1:00:46
  to
• 1:00:46
  hear
• 1:00:46
  more
• 1:00:48
  from
• 1:00:48
  you
• 1:00:48
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• 1:00:49
  send
• 1:00:50
  you
• 1:00:50
  a
• 1:00:50
  little
• 1:00:50
  bit
• 1:00:50
  more
• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:51
  on
• 1:00:51
  us.
• 1:00:52
  Well,
• 1:00:52
  there
• 1:00:52
  you
• 1:00:52
  go.
• 1:00:52
  Well,
• 1:00:53
  Dave,
• 1:00:53
  I
• 1:00:53
  really
• 1:00:53
  appreciate
• 1:00:54
  you
• 1:00:54
  taking
• 1:00:54
  some
• 1:00:54
  time
• 1:00:54
  out
• 1:00:55
  of
• 1:00:55
  your
• 1:00:55
  evening
• 1:00:55
  to
• 1:00:55
  talk
• 1:00:55
  with
• 1:00:56
  me.
• 1:00:56
  All
• 1:00:57
  right,
• 1:00:57
  man,
• 1:00:57
  I
• 1:00:57
  appreciate
• 1:00:57
  it.
• 1:00:58
  Take
• 1:00:58
  care.
• 1:00:59
  Thanks.
• 1:01:00
  Well,
• 1:01:00
  folks,
• 1:01:01
  we
• 1:01:01
  hope
• 1:01:01
  you
• 1:01:01
  enjoyed
• 1:01:02
  the
• 1:01:02
  interview
• 1:01:02
  as
• 1:01:03
  much
• 1:01:03
  as
• 1:01:03
  we
• 1:01:03
  enjoyed
• 1:01:04
  bringing
• 1:01:04
  it
• 1:01:04
  to
• 1:01:04
  you.
• 1:01:05
  Remember,
• 1:01:05
  links
• 1:01:06
  to
• 1:01:06
  all
• 1:01:06
  this
• 1:01:06
  episode's
• 1:01:07
  sponsors
• 1:01:07
  are
• 1:01:07
  in
• 1:01:07
  the
• 1:01:07
  show
• 1:01:07
  notes.
• 1:01:08
  Check
• 1:01:08
  them
• 1:01:09
  out.
• 1:01:09
  Tight
• 1:01:10
  lines,
• 1:01:10
  everybody.