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NFL 2025 | Week 8 "Tent Talk" | Updates, News & Injuries | Banter with the Boys - Gridiron Updates · Banter with the Boys

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  Welcome back to Zabanta with the boys. No. Banter
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  with the boys tent talk where we are going to
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  talk some injuries, some news, nothing crazy
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  going on. We're going to talk about it anyway,
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  and you're here listening to it, so you're already
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  here. Might as well wait. Thanks for joining
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  us. Yeah. Woo -hoo. Rob's here, our co -host.
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  Thank you. What's up? I'm Smelty, by the way.
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  I'm getting better at that. I'm trying to bring
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  myself in. You are. It's like within the first
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  minute. Progress, not perfection. Jake's here
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  again for another one. What's up, Jake? Thanks
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  for having me. Appreciate it. And we get to talk
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  injuries. You guys annoyed at Jake yet? Yes or
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  no? Blink twice if you're in danger. Kev, behind
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  the camera, getting everything done for us, as
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  always. off our injuries i mean if you listened
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  to our week seven recap recap you would have
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  heard us mention the mike evans injury and his
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  broken collarbone um out for good chunk of the
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  season uh he might be able to return late late
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  season one would think maybe only playoffs i
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  hope he gets a chance yeah we'll see He deserves
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  a chance. How many yards is he at right now?
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  I don't think he's close to it. I think to hit
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  that 1 ,000 again. Yeah, yeah. If he were to
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  come back, like, three games left or something.
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  I mean, I'm guessing he's maybe at 230 maybe
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  right now. I'm working on it. It's coming up.
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  It's coming up. I'm working. While we're waiting,
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  Keon, how do you pronounce his name wrong? Kendre,
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  Kendre Miller, running back for the New Orleans
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  Saints. Torn ACL, done for the season. That hurts.
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  Yes, it does. Saquon was evaluated for a concussion,
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  turns out, during that Vikings game. I heard
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  that. But he was allowed to return. So something
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  to kind of keep an eye on this week. Do they
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  limit any carries? Probably not if he's okay
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  to return at Saquon Barkley. Well, according
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  to his fantasy football owner, no, no carries
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  off. No carries off. Don't be doing that. Stat
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  update, Mike Evans is only at 140 yards this
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  season. Oh, man. He's a long ways out. Not going
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  to get that 1 ,000 this year. Quarterbacks, quarterbacks,
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  quarterbacks. Bryce Young, high ankle sprain.
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  Those tend to linger. So Andy Dalton's getting
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  a start this week for the Carolina Panthers as
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  they take on the Bills. The old red -headed?
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  Yeah, the red rifle. Yeah, the red rifle. You
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  should have been in Spanish class. All right.
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  The funny part is I failed Spanish both years
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  that it was required. What about English? I sucked
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  at it. I still suck at that, too. I wouldn't
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  pass that, either. English is hard. Lucky you're
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  cute. If you look at it, man. I know. Thanks,
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  buddy. Let's see. Jaden Daniels also going down
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  with a hamstring injury. And as Jake would know,
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  those tend to linger. Oh, yeah. However. Lamar,
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  return to practice. Today, finally. What? Return
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  to practice. Yeah. He's back. In a very light
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  practice. Probably not playing this week. No,
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  he's still questionable to play. Well, you texted
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  him, right? Yeah. They text and talk more than
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  we know. Yeah. Right on. So do you want him to
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  play? Absolutely. Need him to play? Absolutely.
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  Lamar freaking Jackson. I get it. Well, I mean,
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  for their season is really where they're at at
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  this point. 80 % Lamar is better than any of
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  the Ravens' backup quarterbacks. Do you guys
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  have any defensive players returning this week?
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  Everybody. Ooh, the band is back? So, I mean,
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  Kyle Hamilton, like the injuries over Kyle Hamilton,
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  so Kyle Hamilton's going to be back. Marlon Humphreys,
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  the secondary. Patrick Ricard is going to be
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  playing for the first time this year, finally,
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  so they're fullback. 42? Yeah, big old 42. One
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  of my favorite players to acquire in Madden over
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  the years. Really? 100%. Yeah. On the Vikings,
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  of course. The wrong purple, but... Well, it's
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  usually like a fantasy draft. Sure. Yeah. So,
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  yeah, I'm excited. They're going to be pretty
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  close to 100%. Roquan's back, too. Still missing
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  that D tackle to stop the run. Yeah. Yeah, but
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  that's a lot of pieces coming back. No, they
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  need all the pieces right now. They need all
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  the pieces back. Absolutely. I mean, they don't
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  have the complete puzzle, but at least they have
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  the borders and kind of have an idea of what
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  the pitcher looks like. For sure. Yep. And even
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  with a banged up or like an 80 % Lamar with Ricard
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  back, you can still get creative with that offense.
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  100%. And Lamar has always wanted to be a pass
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  -first quarterback anyway. He just needs to be
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  able to get the ball. This forces the issue.
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  Yeah. He just needs to get the ball out of his
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  hands quick. So, yeah. We'll talk more about
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  that in another segment. Yeah, in the Week 8
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  preview. Don't miss that if you're a Ravens fan.
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  Or if you're a Bears fan. Don't miss our Week
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  8 preview coming up when the Bears take on Baltimore.
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  And we talk about it real quick. The Predators
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  and the Scavengers. Let's see. Let's see. We
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  got on that subject because of Lamar Jackson,
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  so staying with quarterbacks. J .J. McCarthy
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  not playing this week, not quite up to pace,
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  so it will be Carson Wentz again getting the
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  start for our Vikings. Max Brosner just not even
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  in the conversation. He shouldn't be. Let's see,
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  the only other thing here, I mean, Nico Collins
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  left with a concussion and is expected to also
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  enter concussion protocol, as Houston heads into.
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  A fairly bigger game against San Francisco, who
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  again is Fred Warner -less. And because we talk
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  about Green Bay in our Week 8 coming up here,
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  Josh Jacobs listed as questionable right now
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  due to an illness and also a calf injury. Kind
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  of more of a day -to -day game -time decision
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  for the Packers. I also did see Sauce Gardner
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  also in concussion protocol as well. for the
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  Jets. Any other bigger injuries that you fellows
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  know of? I mean, I still got Irving and Godwin
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  still probably out. Daniels is out. against the
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  chiefs this week so you're gonna get mariotta
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  um it's for a vikings fan a little teaser uh
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  we'll we'll talk about it more in depth a little
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  bit next episode but daricell um is now on the
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  injury list after not being on the injury list
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  they just released it today no yes me is the
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  official did not practice today so um fantasy
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  wise though minute wise Who's blowing up? I don't
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  know. There's not really much to pick up. Did
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  you know, maybe you did, this Saturday, or excuse
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  me, this weekend is National Tight End Day. Ooh,
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  what? Yeah, I mean, it's... So I should play
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  my tight ends and my flexes? You probably should.
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  That's not on my free calendar I get in the mail.
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  If you take a look at the last couple of years,
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  the last couple of years, tight ends have...
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  produced pretty well fantasy -wise on National
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  Tight End Day. Okay, okay. I like that little
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  insider tidbit there for start your tight ends.
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  Yeah, so think about it. Maybe start a second
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  one. Yeah. Maybe Andrews will blow up this week.
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  I hope so. I got him. You need to. Did you have
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  any clips for news at all? Oh, I think I had
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  one. It was kind of a questionable call. It was
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  the... Interception in the Lions and the Buccaneers
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  game. So kind of when I look at this, the old
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  thought process of a completed pass is usually
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  offense gets the benefit of the doubt on it.
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  Is this what you're talking about right here?
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  Yes. They called this an interception. I don't
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  see where one person had possession first more
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  than... Wow, that looks like a real good one
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  -handed catch to me. But usually in the NFL,
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  don't they kind of give tie to the receiver?
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  Exactly, that's what I'm saying. In this scenario...
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  I mean, I don't know. Who's the defender right
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  there? Robertson, I think. I mean, it looks like
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  Mr. Robertson here does... almost grab it and
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  pin it against his chest. That's kind of the
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  deal breaker for me. I mean, that almost looks
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  – That's a tough one. That's what I'm saying,
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  but generally the tie goes to the offense. That's
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  just what we've seen. I don't know if that's
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  an actual written rule. The only other time I
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  think I've seen the – Thanks, Kevin. Seen the
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  questionable call like that go the other way.
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  Packers fans will remember it against the Seahawks.
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  The Hail Mary? Yeah, the Fail Mary. Yeah, that's
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  right. And then the Seahawks got that interception
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  on that one, too. Yeah. And it was kind of a
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  play like that. So maybe one of us will have
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  to dig into the rule books of what it is or one
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  of our fans to throw in the comments. How do
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  you feel? How to break that down. How did you
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  feel about the TJ Hawkinson? I thought it was
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  incomplete. I thought it was, too. Awesome. Same
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  as the Smith catch I thought should have been
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  incomplete, even though they called it a catch.
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  Yeah. I can't deal with liking fans online. They're
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  all upset about the TJ Hawkinson catch. Again,
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  to me, it wasn't a catch. I didn't even think
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  it was a close. Does it bother you that Hawkinson
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  thought it was a catch? Or do you want him to
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  think it's a catch? I mean, of course you're
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  going to want to think it's a catch. He's going
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  to think that he got his hands under it, and
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  he's the only one that knows, really, technically.
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  But even though, if you have your hands under
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  it and you feel like you've caught it. We all
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  see it on TV that the nose of the football hit
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  the ground. 100%. And then he loses control of
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  it as he rolls over. 100 % he does. I don't even
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  know where the question is. And Devontae Smith
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  had the same scenario, and it should have been
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  incomplete, but they called it a catch. So that's
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  what's, I think, adding fuel to the fire for
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  Vikings fans is that one was called. I'm more
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  upset about the missed holding call. And again,
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  there's holding on every play. We know it. On
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  what holding? We know it. On third and 13 in
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  the fourth quarter. Dallas Turner. Jalen Hurts.
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  I thought it was Grenard getting held. Okay,
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  I'm taking up a different play. But it was twice.
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  You know, engaged, it was a hold, they disengaged,
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  and then engaged again, and it's again a hold.
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  And Jalen Hurts gets a big third down play, and
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  I thought it was to A .J. Brown. But either way,
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  whatever. Big game for A .J. Brown. Anyway, we're
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  not talking about that. We're getting sidetracked.
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  We're not talking about that. Let's see. The
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  only big news I saw. Rest in peace, Doug Martin.
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  We don't want to get into that too heavily right
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  now. Muscle hamster. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt,
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  muscle hamster. But Brandon Graham comes out
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  of retirement and rejoins the Eagles. I did see
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  that. That's interesting. I mean, it doesn't
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  hurt for them to have a little extra DN help.
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  I work with some Eagles fans. They welcome the
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  addition, but they're thinking that they want
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  help in the secondary more so than their front
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  seven. But against the Vikings, if you watched
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  it, did you feel like they got much edge pressure
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  at all against us? I felt like it was up the
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  middle of Carter. Yeah. You played a great game
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  against the Vikings. You know, but, like, I don't
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  think they're DN. You know, that's why I want
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  to back to that. I didn't think the Eagles were
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  that impressive defensively. They just didn't
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  seem like, oh, my gosh, they cannot stop. See,
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  for me, it was the Vikings that weren't impressive
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  offensively. Fair, fair. But I feel you. So,
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  anyway, you guys got any little tidbits you need
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  to shout out for news? That's kind of all I got.
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  Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy right now. Trade
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  deadlines right now. Trade week eight. Two weeks.
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  Oh, two weeks. Yeah, I haven't heard anything
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  in early interesting yet on that. I've seen rumors
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  regarding Jordan Addison, a lot of rumors. And
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  then there was another receiver. Would you dump
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  him for two first? Yes. That's tough to say no.
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  He's still got Jalen Naylor and Adam Thielen.
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  He's due for a contract soon. Still on a rookie
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  deal, so somebody can fit him. I saw rumors of
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  the Patriots. Addison teaming up with Diggs.
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  But I saw another receiver rumored for the Patriots,
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  and now I can't remember who the heck it was.
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  But trade deadline coming up, so we could see
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  some moves. I bet you. I feel like every year
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  we're starting to see a little bit more. Everyone's
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  kind of like, this is our year. We're going to,
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  you know. I think we might see Jets selling a
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  whole bunch. Sauce on the bikes. Can the bikes
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  finally go get sauce? There, Addison. I would
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  feel bad for Addison going to the Jetsaw. That
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  would be horrible, but it's a business decision.
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  I mean. Yeah, just real quick. But Sauce has
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  to sign a contract, too. Oh, yeah. What about
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  Brees Hall? I mean, Brees Hall has been rumored
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  now for a little bit. I think Brees, as much
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  as I hate to say it, I think Brees Hall absolutely
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  needs to go to the Kansas City Chiefs. I think
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  that would do wonders for that. He just needs
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  a new environment. 100%. He'll be just fine.
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  Brees Hall is a gamer. He'll be just fine. What
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  about the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson? I mean,
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  they're still in it. Yeah, you still have to.
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  And starting to trend up, you know. What about?
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  And like you said, their schedule, the next two,
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  I mean, they could be five and three here, Charlie.
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  What about, you know, a veteran guy like Cam
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  Jordan on the Saints? You know, does he help
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  anybody that's trying to make a run right now?
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  The problem with the NFL, we get big guys like
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  that as their contractor. His contract is crazy
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  because it's probably like a one year. It's a
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  lot of, you know, not a lot of dead money or,
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  you know. So I don't know. I'm not the finance
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  guy guru on that aspect. Fair enough. More of
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  an X and O kind of guy. Fair enough. How dead
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  in the water do you think the Dolphins are? Do
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  you think they even think about trading a guy
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  like Jalen Waddell? If the price is right, you
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  know? I think you have to entertain that. Like
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  in your situation, two firsts for Addison. If
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  somebody offers that up for Waddell, I'd still
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  rank Waddell higher than Addison. Ooh, would
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  you? Yeah, a little bit. Okay, okay. I mean,
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  just Addison's availability, I would rank him
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  higher. He hasn't had any injuries. It's the
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  first three games of the season. Yeah, not due
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  to injuries. Yeah, but that can't happen again,
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  right? True, but Waddle only played half. Which
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  is true. That's true. Pick your poison, I guess.
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  Why do you want him on the bench? Well, fair
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  enough. But that's all I got. All right. Cool,
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  cool, cool. Okay, oh, to end it then. Well, Kirk
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  Cousins. You think with Pennix kind of up and
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  down, Falcons hold on to him, or do they get
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  somebody to commit to that? Oh, I think Pennix
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  is the starter. No, I mean commit to obtaining
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  Kirk Cousins. Do the Jets try to go get a Kirk
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  Cousins right now? I don't know. What is that
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  going to do for them? The owner kind of came
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  out and blamed Justin Fields for everything.
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  Well, yeah. He hasn't been playing very well
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  either. He did throw Fields under the bus, and
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  the fans hate their team right now. Yeah. If
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  you guys saw the video of the kid walking out
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  of the game, it's pretty amazing. I did not,
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  but you guys were talking about it off air, and
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  I really got to look it up because it sounds
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  amazing. It's amazing. It sounds amazing. It's
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  almost like hurtful. I know. Because he's kind
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  of, what would you say, he's like 15? Yeah, he's
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  super young. Yeah, it just looks, I hate my team
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  right now. You know, we're just born into it.
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  We're just like us Vikings fans. We're born into
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  an 0 -4 Super Bowl. I didn't get to see him even
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  lose one. that's kind of how i feel about the
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  twins sometimes and the bikes yeah yeah but at
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  least the twins won a couple world series but
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  before my time so i don't know fair uh anyway
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  off topic uh with that uh jake obviously thanks
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  for being here you're still you're still gonna
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  be able to hear jake on our next episode our
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  week eight preview and picks so don't forget
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  to check that out uh rob of course as always
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  thanks for being here as the co -host here on
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  gridiron updates Kev behind the cameras getting
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  everything done for us as always. Don't forget
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