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#199 - Tucker’s Most Controversial Guest Ever? The Nick Fuentes Backlash Explained · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  We're just going to start rolling a little bit different today.
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  I'm just kind of waiting. Usually I have a little intro that comes in.
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  We're just scrapping that. All right, we're going to start something new.
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  Taking the hourglass, which is technically not an hour, but we are turning it over.
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  Got the American flag here. You can see Mr. Bigglesworth is in the back.
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  And we're going to just start it off with this. Let me actually take this off.
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  I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
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  for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
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  We're going to take a look at the Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson saga that started
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  this summer back in probably about August, end of July, and has culminated in last week.
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  Tucker brought Nick Fuentes on his show, which has just received enormous backlash from everyone.
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  And I, I know everyone out there is a lot of people haven't picked a side.
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  A lot of people are kind of just indifferent.
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  They're not in tune with what's going on.
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  Uh, but some people are, and I know I'm going to say a lot of things that tick everyone off.
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  I'm going to say things because I am not lockstep with anyone.
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  I'm not lockstep with Trump. I'm not lockstep with Israel.
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  I'm not lockstep with Tucker. I'm not lockstep with Nick.
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  I'm going to just say what I think. And as the show is evolution,
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  we evolve, we evolve in our mindset.
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  You know, I don't believe in the whole, we evolve from monkeys and everything like that.
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  We came from the primordial soup, but I do believe that we, our opinions change, our mindset shifts.
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  We don't believe the same thing that we believed yesterday. We are constantly
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  evolving in our views and opinions. as anyone that's out there.
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  You're not the same person that you are today as you were yesterday, you know, or vice versa.
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  I'm just going to say what I think and mean what I say and say what I think,
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  you know, and I'm not going to filter things as much as I tend to do in regular life.
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  I don't know about you. If you're out there and you just filter everything,
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  I am the ultimate filter board where everything that I say, I can't even have
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  a conversation sometimes with regular people because I'm thinking about three
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  lines that I would say ahead of time.
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  And I I've missed the point. I've missed the thing. I haven't said what it was
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  on my mind, what I really believe, because I don't want to shake people up.
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  I don't want to offend them.
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  I don't want them to look at me differently than I perceive and think that they
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  should look at me, you know, and everybody's different.
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  Everybody is growing in their whole structure that is in this world right now,
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  where you're at right now, you're there for a reason.
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  You're there for a reason and you're trying to just figure it out because I
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  know I've been offline probably for about over a month now and not much has
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  happened, right? I mean, nothing's really been happening right in this world.
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  I think 2025 has been the craziest year that I've ever experienced.
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  And I was not expecting when we started going into 2025 last year,
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  I thought, man, this everything is we're going up, baby, up, up, up.
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  You know, it's everything's going to be perfect and amazing and nothing's going to go bad.
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  Nothing could go wrong. But I want to bring it into the whole because what has
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  been on my mind and what I've like kind of been glued into, locked into,
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  has been Nick Fuentes probably since this summer.
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  And he would say it's his...
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  What does he call it? His generational run, which I still don't understand.
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  He says it every time and he explains it to people.
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  You could say like, and I've seen before, we are living in cancel culture and
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  cancel culture culture for Nick Fuentes has been next level.
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  And it's been from both sides.
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  I don't agree with everything that he says. I agree with a lot of what he says
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  in certain aspects of it.
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  And you got to be very nuanced in explaining things.
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  I don't agree with everything he says, you know, and the way he says it,
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  you know, but he is saying a lot of things right.
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  And that's why I think even from the right, he has been so canceled and his,
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  his cancellation has come primarily from the right side of the political structure.
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  That's where it's come from. It hasn't come from the right, use the left to remove Nick.
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  And he was off the map for the last, probably like four or five years and he's
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  very young himself, but now he's being unleashed onto the public and it culminated,
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  it climaxed in the Tucker Carlson interview that happened last week and everyone saw him.
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  He's been out there and you can find him on Rumble.
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  That's the place where you're going to find him because pretty much he's off
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  of YouTube. He can't be on YouTube himself.
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  He can't run a show on YouTube or pretty much most things that are out there, Spotify.
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  He can't run accounts himself on Instagram, on TikTok, on just mainstream platforms,
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  because he's been silenced. He's been silenced.
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  And I always get hesitant because I know once I start talking about this and
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  talking about him, because people will be cheering on, huh? Yeah, yeah.
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  And then you say something wrong. You say that doesn't go align with everything
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  that you believe in him or with.
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  I'm tied to this person and to this idea, you know, and if you say anything
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  that crosses that, I'm not going to be open-minded and at least hear you out.
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  He's got this, like, he's got this whole mob that follows him that is what is called the Groypers.
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  The Groypers are out there and they are tenacious as hell.
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  They will come at you and destroy you. And when he had this conversation with
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  Andrew Tate this summer, it was probably maybe August or so.
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  I could see Andrew Tate, who is this like guy who's like a man's man, macho man.
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  I could see it in his eyes that he was scared to say certain things.
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  He didn't want this onslaught of this group, this following that will try to destroy you.
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  So now we got so many things lined up. Tucker put himself in a lot of hot water
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  by using his platform to platform Nick and bring him on there and everybody
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  is saying cancel and remove tucker.
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  But Tucker did the right thing. He did the right thing by bringing him on there.
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  If you're ever on the side where we need to burn books or we need to say,
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  you can't speak about this person or you can't speak about this idea,
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  I think you're in wrong territory.
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  Even if you're Israel, which I am, I support Israel, but I am America first.
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  I'm America first because of my, just my position in life. I was born into this nation.
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  I'm a Gentile. I'm not Jewish. I believe in, I believe we can fundamentally
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  support the nation that we are a part of and that we are born into.
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  This is our birthright. So there is this hyper obsession about,
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  I would see from Nick's eyes, he sees everything, he sees everything through
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  this lens, this prism of Israel,
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  Jews are behind everything, which I would say always, I said this repeatedly.
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  Yes, Yes, they are.
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  I see it now. I didn't always see it. I didn't view everything through that lens.
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  I didn't. I mean, I thought Israel was just obscure and nobody talked about them.
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  We learned about them in Sunday school and talking about them going to church,
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  you know, and reading the Bible.
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  But now it's like they are behind every conspiracy.
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  And I guess this has been going on for years, I guess.
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  People have this mindset of because they are the gift that keeps on giving.
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  If you're talking Israel, there's something new every day under the sun.
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  There's something new and fresh and some other conspiracy thing,
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  something else that's, you know, the Jews are behind it. The Jews did it.
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  You know, they did everything, you know, they're behind every nefarious act in this world.
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  It's the Jews or Israel. And you have to have that distinction between Israel
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  and the Jews, you know, and even Bible believing Christians,
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  a lot of them out there, they don't see the nation that we see as Israel that
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  is in this world right now as the same nation of the Bible.
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  I would say it is, but I'm not saying that they're perfect. They have never been perfect.
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  And if you want to see a record of their imperfection, you would go to the whole
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  Bible. And it culminated in them sending Jesus Christ, their Messiah, to the cross.
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  But every prophet, every person of God was just excoriated and brutally beaten
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  and just talked about evilly from pretty much Moses until Jesus.
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  You know, and you could say even today, if you're representing Jesus,
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  you know, people within Israel, they have not accepted him.
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  They have not embraced him. So they're still speaking, you know,
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  they're saying Jesus is not the Christ. That is the spirit of Antichrist.
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  But it does not change their position. You know, they're still there, you know.
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  But I wanted to primarily talk about with Tucker Carlson.
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  And where do we go from here? Where does Tucker go from here?
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  I don't think he's too worried about it. And in this culture,
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  if you are a person that has tried to be canceled, if people want to cancel you,
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  you're in good territory and you're probably going to blow up and become a household
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  name eventually, you know, and the perfect example of that is Nick Fuentes.
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  Canceling people only adds eventually fuel
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  to their fire you know they could crumble you know and give up you know and
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  just go into the you know never come out of the wilderness and never come out
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  and and tell people what they really believe in and just kind of just melt and
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  go into obscurity or they could rise it could be something that just causes them to rise and,
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  And I don't, I don't think Tucker's going to have any problem.
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  He's not a person that worries about people's opinions.
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  And I think you have to not worry about people's opinions and thoughts and what
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  they, anything that they're saying about you to survive.
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  But it's coming from both sides. It's coming from both sides.
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  We're going to switch it up a little bit.
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  We're going to look at, I'm just going to kind of bounce around,
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  you know, this is even, you can see, I'm going to scan down here a little bit.
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  It's coming from, it's not, it's an equal opportunity destroying
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  effect he is being like
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  like very prominent people you could say
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  charlie kirk to the till his last day on
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  this earth he was not in favor of nick fuentes he never was and that's why i
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  i i was actually very startled and like the best i i wanted to see the debate
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  everyone wanted to see the debate or maybe just it doesn't have to i think we're
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  growing we're putting up our our big boy pants.
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  We don't need to have debate over everything. We can just talk things out.
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  I think debates themselves, it's fun to say that word because you want to see
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  one person's view, a clash with somebody else's, but just a conversation,
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  just a conversation and talking to them,
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  which is, it surprised me that all those years, and I think eventually Charlie
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  Kirk would have had a conversation with Nick Fuentes.
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  He would have if his life wasn't tragically ended far too soon.
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  But him dying has now like made, almost made the opportunity for Nick to rise.
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  And I think, I just saw Brandon Tatum the other day.
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  He tweeted out, at Nick, you know, they're going back and forth and everything. He's.
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  Brandon Tatum says, you're going to be your, what is it?
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  A light in the pan or I don't even know something, a flash in the pan,
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  but you're going to be irrelevant in a year or two, which I mean, I doubt that.
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  I doubt that. And for better or for worse, Nick Fuentes is here.
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  There are so many things I like, I'm going to say, I'm going to say what I think
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  him having this attack of the Jews or the attack of Israel and everything about
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  that, I don't think that ends well.
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  It might be a flash in the pan for so many years, but overall,
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  the tides of history and just everything about Israel, they come out on top.
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  And it's because they have that unique position as God's people.
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  They are in rejection of Jesus, but they're still his people.
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  They're still, they have a unique covenant relationship with God.
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  And that's why you could say like there's been flashes of
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  i just think of people throughout history you know
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  hitler tried to destroy the jews you know that i guess that's becoming debatable
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  to certain people in the holocaust and being like a holocaust denial is now
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  becoming normal and i i honestly i mean i i i probably just learned what we
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  learned in school and watched what we've seen in movies you know and it but
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  there's holocausts that are happening all the time all the time Christians,
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  just every type of people group across the world, and Jews are no different.
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  They experienced something that was vitriol, and there is a difference between people.
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  That's why I'm going to say this.
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  This Haman, I think it's his name Haman from the book of Esther, that.
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  The spirit that just does not that if you start seeing Jews as evil because
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  they're Jews, you went too far.
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  I think we can question Israel and like our relationship as the United States
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  of America with Israel without going to we need to destroy the Jews.
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  And I think that's where you have to be very nuanced with which Nick, I think he is.
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  But people know him by clips. They see clips of him saying the craziest.
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  Sometimes it seems evil.
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  And I think that Tucker bringing him on just kind of opened him up to the onslaught
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  of what Nick Fuentes has experienced for the last six years.
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  There's so much that we could talk about this and so much we could get into,
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  but I just wanted to start afresh with this.
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  And we're going to change this up a little bit, the way that I do this every
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  day, but my name is Brandon Fogel. This is Evolution.
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  Subscribe, share with everyone, and watch this next video that pops up,
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  you know, that we, we, all that good stuff that everyone knows that happens
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  every day, switch back a little bit.
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  And I will have the America flag here because this is America first.
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  I believe in American first because I, because who I am.
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  And I think everyone out there, I think if we get in that mindset,
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  but I think we should use our, our energy to having Israel using them.
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  You know, if you're saying they were going to use us for everything,
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  everything bad and for their purposes, why don't we use them for our purposes?
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  Not just say, get out of here, go back to Israel.
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  We can glean the good from everything. Let's just have open minds,
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  open hearts, and just speak what we think. All right, we'll leave it at that. Have a good day.