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Furness Show 8-3: Tory Horton, MLB trade deadline, Mollywhop Monday · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: uh trade for Taylor Ward today? Talk about that in
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  Speaker 2: is Major League Baseball trade deadline day. Red Sox, Who's
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  Speaker 2: traded for Adlie Ritchman, the former Oregon State Beaver, the
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  Speaker 2: a Lake oal in that game. I watched that match.
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  Speaker 2: That was They're not good, right, they're not good. It
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  Speaker 2: also doesn't help that I look out there and I
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  Speaker 2: like to recognize two players. Yeah, I think that's their
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  Speaker 2: injury situation is diabolical. I'm not I'm not a Tacoma
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  Speaker 2: Defiance fan. So when I watch that game, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I guess i'm watching coma exact cool storm face New
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  Speaker 2: York Liberty Night. They've lost seventeen eighteen. No, I think
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  Speaker 2: they lost twenty eight thousand in a row. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: where they're at right now. Yeah, so they'll get beat
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  Speaker 2: by I don't know, maybe Brianna Stewart. She even gonna
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  Speaker 2: play that game. She might doesn't care, Like whatever, win anyway,
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  Speaker 2: How about this? You give this the headline? How excited.
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  Speaker 2: Are you US men's national team poach is back? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: poach is back. It's a I think it was the
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  Speaker 2: right move.
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  Speaker 3: There weren't going to be many opportunities to really upgrade
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  Speaker 3: from that spot, and I still think even though how
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  Speaker 3: it ended overall was a successful World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: Is he he had to have other options though didn't clubwise?
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  Speaker 3: I think so, definitely over in Europe, but he has
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  Speaker 3: a pretty good gig here where he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's a little bit less of an intensive situation,
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  Speaker 3: so less grind.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's good. That's good for US mentions team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I would have been nice to get past round of sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: but sure, I think they'd be watching the games, can
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  Speaker 2: see that the foundation Let's go there be there better
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we are Virginia Mason Athletics Center, Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to hit the field after day off yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: They practice Saturday, took yesterday off. They're going the next spot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually going the next six days. They got five
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  Speaker 2: practices here and then they've got the I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what they call it, FanFest scrimmage whatever it is on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday at Looman and then a day off Sunday, and
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  Speaker 2: then kind of a game week in a sense. It's
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  Speaker 2: the first preseason game is a week from Saturday, upcoming
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  Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. Tory Horton's gonna join us in
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  Speaker 2: just a couple of seconds, the Hawk wide receiver. He
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  Speaker 2: heard him on the podium with Greg. I think if
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  Speaker 2: you listened to Greg earlier, I will sit down and
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  Speaker 2: kind of delve into it to where he is health wise,
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  Speaker 2: the struggles of last year's rookie season, and really what
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  Speaker 2: could be a really kind of upgraded receiver room with
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  Speaker 2: the Rashiets. She heat here throughout the offseason training camp,
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  Speaker 2: learning the offense, getting acclimated with Sam Darnold and then
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  Speaker 2: a healthy Tory Horton, who I don't know when he
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  Speaker 2: was playing, was pretty damn good. His first ever catch,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, do you remember what it was, Andrews?
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  Speaker 2: It was a touchdown, was it not? It was at Pittsburgh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, who needs dk metcalf Right started three
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  Speaker 2: of eight games before he got hurt and was out
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  Speaker 2: for the year, but was plenty productive in those games.
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  Speaker 2: Eight games, five touchdowns for Seattle in terms of receiving.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, man, he did well. Also, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: return a punt for a touchdown too, That's right, that's right. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So he had six touchdowns in eight games. That's good productivity.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe efficiency Ian we call it efficiency. And
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  Speaker 2: he played with literally a fractured leg all year. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: until he finally shut it down. Wow. That's remarkable, really
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  Speaker 2: what he did. So we'll talk to Tori, to Tory
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  Speaker 2: Horton here. Coming up in a second. Taylor Ward has
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  Speaker 2: been picked up by the Mariners. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments as well. We will
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  Speaker 2: molly Wop today at one o'clock, will be joined by
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  Speaker 2: Chris and Nathan angry as they may or may not be.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens over the next fifty six minutes
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  Speaker 2: or so, but those guys will join us at one.
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  Speaker 2: We'll keep Chris kind of on the line, kind of
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  Speaker 2: on retainer in the two o'clock hour in case anything
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  Speaker 2: else happens. Maybe spend some time as well talking about
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the American League and what has happened.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we're seeing the things happen throughout the
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  Speaker 2: day today. Are they going to complain about trek school today? Ian?
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not. I that's a let you know what,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell? Le'll just start there for a second
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  Speaker 2: for Tory Hort you brought it up. We'll start, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I I don't know what there is to complain about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like he there's a lot of back
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  Speaker 2: and forth. There's a lot of people saying, well, the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers were you know, were gifted, you know, being the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 2: and and you know we're born on third base. I've
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  Speaker 2: seen that line use like a hundred times already, right,
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  Speaker 2: And and they they have the ability and maybe they'll
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  Speaker 2: want to to spend more money than anybody else. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: they they've traded for a guy that's the two times
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  Speaker 2: Cy Young Award winner in the American League, knowing full
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  Speaker 2: well they're going to resign him. Not every team would
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  Speaker 2: have been able to do that, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing is. I think that's the big thing. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: anyone could have matched the trade package that right Dodgers
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  Speaker 3: gave out for him, but not a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: would be willing to do that knowing that they're not
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  Speaker 3: going to get him back because they know he's going
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  Speaker 3: to go to the Dodgers in the office.
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  Speaker 2: That's see, that's the whole thing is now. Listen, we
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  Speaker 2: could complain from here until forever about the fact that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's LA and maybe it's desirable for a
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  Speaker 2: player to go, but it's also desirable for a couple
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  Speaker 2: of reasons. One, it's if people want to play for
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, historic team, Dodgers Stadium. You know, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: especially with the Lebron gun, it's got to be the
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing going to LA right now. Right, Oh yeah, absolutely, yes, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think even when Lebron was there, they
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  Speaker 2: were the Dodgers. Dodgers. Yeah, I've been there, I've been
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  Speaker 2: there enough times, you know, over the years covering Seahawk
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  Speaker 2: games especially, and you know, whether it be preseason, regular season,
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  Speaker 2: even when we're covering the Chargers games there like we
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  Speaker 2: would go out and Dodgers games are a huge deal,
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  Speaker 2: like on TV everywhere, you don't have to ask the
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  Speaker 2: bartender to turn it on. It's like they're They're the
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  Speaker 2: main game in town. Yep. And I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: desire for a lot of players probably to be in
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  Speaker 2: a situation like that, Oh, they win, I should mention
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  Speaker 2: that they win. That helps and they'll spend money. Now
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  Speaker 2: the question about their ability to spend money. And we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to Chris. We'll get into this maybe with Chris
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  Speaker 2: on the two o'clock wait and see. But I just
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the Dodgers. The system itself, is
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  Speaker 2: it broken? Probably I don't buy And I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to subscribe to the theory that well, this is it,
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  Speaker 2: this is the this is the straw that broke the
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  Speaker 2: camel's back. This will be the tipping point for sure,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have a lockout. Now, Derek Scuble going
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  Speaker 2: to the Dodgers is not the reason there's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a lockout, and it's not the tipping point. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's going to be a lockout either. Probably
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  Speaker 2: makes it a little bit more likely. Well, I think
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  Speaker 2: we'll other owners. It's gonna get the salary cap was
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  Speaker 2: going to be discussed whether Scuball went there or not. True.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I think that's that's part of the
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  Speaker 2: issue here, right, is that people are you know, they
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  Speaker 2: keep going back to the to the to the to
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  Speaker 2: the salary cap. I just Andrews, I can't get upset
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  Speaker 2: about it. And here's you know what, here's the other
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  Speaker 2: reason I can't get upset about it. They're in the
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  Speaker 2: National League. Yeah, I really, I really don't care. If
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  Speaker 2: you're worrying about it, that means you're in the World Series, right.
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  Speaker 2: I told that. I said that to Greg and cross Talk.
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  Speaker 2: He brought it up, and I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: here's the biggest If we here in Seattle find out
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  Speaker 2: that Trek Scubale is an issue and a problem for
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners from our local team, well, the only way
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  Speaker 2: that happens is if you're seeing them in October in
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  Speaker 2: the World Series. Yea, and then that would be the
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  Speaker 2: first time in fifty years of the franchise. You're in
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  Speaker 2: the World Series, and if School will beat you twice
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  Speaker 2: in the World Series, okay, whatever, I'll take my chances there.
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  Speaker 2: And hey, we got to the World Series. We're good, right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, there's there's a lot of things that
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  Speaker 2: make no sense to me over the last few days.
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  Speaker 2: Andrews that that one is at the top of the list.
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  Speaker 2: The other one that you know, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where you fall on this, And I'll see what the
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  Speaker 2: boys say as well. The Castillo trade, I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to I'm not going to applaud anybody for a salary dump.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just not And that's what it was. It's one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent of salary dump they want to get out
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  Speaker 2: from the next couple of years of his salary. I
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  Speaker 2: get that. I'm just gonna look back, not Castillo this year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look back at the Rock that we had
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  Speaker 2: since he got traded here on trade deadline day a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago. That was a dude that was an
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  Speaker 2: absolute monster, especially in big games. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: in the postseason, yes, like like just carried your ass
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  Speaker 2: in those regards, and that's it to me. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a dude, I know he's down this year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the six man rotations, goofy, I get all those things.
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  Speaker 2: He's just a dude, man and I and you could
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  Speaker 2: tell he was upset. You could tell the players were upset. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because players aren't dumb. They know they're looking
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  Speaker 2: around going, well, what, yeah, we have a six man rotation.
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  Speaker 2: You're also one Bryce Miller floating particle in his elbow
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  Speaker 2: away from being to a four man rotation, right and
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  Speaker 2: for a team that I think he is trying to contend.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got that going on.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I just can't applaud him.
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  Speaker 2: I can't applaud him for that. Hold that thought though.
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  Speaker 2: I think we got Tory Horton come over in a second.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good, yeah, so I I but that's honestly, Anders.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Taylor Ward makes him better. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Castile was a salary dump. None of those guys make
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  Speaker 2: them better necessarily, you know, A so so, but that's
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's all caps maybe as well. So we'll see,
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  Speaker 2: I mean we'll see. Uh but yeah, like, uh, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna check in and just secret Tory Horton is here.
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  Speaker 2: How are you Tory, Good to see you. I'll have
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  Speaker 2: you throw that headset on. We're live on kJ R here,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and do that. Tell you Seahawk fans watching
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  Speaker 2: him walk out here, no limp, watching him in practice,
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  Speaker 2: it's a good thing. He's all good out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: can you hear me? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, great, all right, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Tory Horton joining a Seahawk wide receiver. We're just going
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  Speaker 2: over the numbers from your rookie season. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: six touchdowns in eight games. That's okay on a broken lake.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty nice.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty nice.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let's let's go back. I know you told the
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  Speaker 2: story the other day at the podium, but for for
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  Speaker 2: our listeners who haven't heard the podium audio and all
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks fans out there, it was a strange thing.
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  Speaker 2: Last year. You came in your first ever catch in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL as a touchdown in Pittsburgh. You get going things,
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  Speaker 2: we're this this guy, you can return punch. Everyone's excited,
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  Speaker 2: and then boom you're out leg injury, and Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: kind of kept it hush hush. What exactly was going on?
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  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, kind of kind of started off as like
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  Speaker 5: a shinny splint that kind of just got worse over time,
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  Speaker 5: and that was something that was kind of new to me.
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  Speaker 5: I never really had shint splints, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it got to the you know, it got to a
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  Speaker 5: feeling where it felt worse than like actual SINNI splints
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  Speaker 5: by like you know, week three of course, and then
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  Speaker 5: you know, uh, through that, like that week three to
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  Speaker 5: week nine, I kind of just been you know, trying
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  Speaker 5: to rust it out and you know, go.
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  Speaker 4: Out there and perform.
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  Speaker 5: And uh, after the Commander's Game, I kind of took
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  Speaker 5: the time to get it checked out myself because getting
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  Speaker 5: out of bed that morning, it was it was real.
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  Speaker 4: Hard to kind of to walk on it.
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  Speaker 5: So I actually got to check down and found out
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  Speaker 5: that it was cracked, and that was just that kind
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  Speaker 5: of just you know, set it down.
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  Speaker 2: So let me be two things. One your last game,
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  Speaker 2: the Commander's Game. Four catches for forty eight yards and
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  Speaker 2: two touchdowns on what effectively was a broken leg.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it was. It was cracked.
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? It was? That's that's nuts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's nuts, man. I had a little toward all hill
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  Speaker 2: I get a little these games. So were you hiding
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit from like in terms of the
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  Speaker 2: pain the severity of it, because for them to have
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  Speaker 2: like you're out there and then boom, you're shut down
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  Speaker 2: two weeks on the inactive list and then on iron
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  Speaker 2: and away you go. I'm guessing that you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: hiding it from coaches and trainers and just trying to
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  Speaker 2: fight through it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little bit of course, like some players
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  Speaker 5: in them seeing like the limp and uh it was
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  Speaker 5: a little like I run to play it then after
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  Speaker 5: the play, I kind of limp off to the soil
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  Speaker 5: on our field, and you know, players and some coaches
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  Speaker 5: will kind of see that and I'll just say, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's just like a little a little bit of a
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  Speaker 5: shim splint I got going on and just kind of
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  Speaker 5: keep going on the next play mentality, and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I kind of kind of felt like I was just
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  Speaker 5: toughening it out and it kind of just got to
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  Speaker 5: the point where I couldn't take it anymore.
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  Speaker 4: It was like it got too bad.
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  Speaker 2: Was part of that just because you could you felt
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  Speaker 2: something special was going on here and you wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's just a It was a great
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  Speaker 5: you know, just a great group of guys and you know,
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  Speaker 5: me coming in as a rook all I wanted to
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  Speaker 5: do was to you know, play play my role and
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  Speaker 5: do do the like, do the best I can for
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  Speaker 5: the team, and you know, just show them, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 4: What I could do to help provide for the team.
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  Speaker 5: And I just wanted to beat here for the team
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  Speaker 5: and just make sure I was in you know, just
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  Speaker 5: just to give them that sigh of you know, such
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  Speaker 5: what a good you know, mindset player, teammate character. I
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  Speaker 5: have to help, uh you know, to help with the
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  Speaker 5: success of the of the organization and things like that.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, once I got to that point where
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  Speaker 5: I felt like I couldn't go no more, I actually
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  Speaker 5: went and got it checked out, because the last thing
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  Speaker 5: I want to do is put you know, anyone or
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  Speaker 5: even myself at a disadvantage and you know, possibly hurting
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  Speaker 5: the team rather than helping the team.
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  Speaker 2: So so you did. I mean there's a selfless nature
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  Speaker 2: to that as well, and you know when you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about doing whatever it helps. We had Dan Anthony Bell
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  Speaker 2: on last week and he was I was amazed by
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  Speaker 2: his attitude. He gets cut. He's still texting guys. He's
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  Speaker 2: not part of the actual Super Bowl game. He still
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  Speaker 2: gets a ring. You get a ring, And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you guys both contribute. Last year he started two games,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just there's just thing that permeates through this
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  Speaker 2: organization in the day and age in which a lot
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  Speaker 2: of athletes are look at me, and I likeveryone's gonna
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: look you guys tomorrow on hard knocks, right, and you're
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: gonna be front and center. But this is a very
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: kind of, I would say, almost subdued team in some ways.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: And it is about the team and the soulful stuff.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Does that come from the coach?
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it starts it starts off from Mike,
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: and you know he does a great job of you
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: know how he starts off the meetings and you know
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: he lays that foundation of what he wants this team
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: to be.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: And I feel like.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: It's uh uh, the players itself and coaches. You know,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: we kind of take accountability on each other and you know,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: we want to be different from every other team. And
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: you could just tell by like just how we are
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: on the field, around the locker room, even outside of here.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: It's just guys that's always connecting and you know, just
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: being there for each other. You know, we're we're joking around,
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: We're we're chopping up with different position groups. Like it's
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: not just receivers with receivers all the time. We'll go
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: and mess with the D line or we'll go and
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: mess with the linebackers and things like that. That's you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: that separates us from everyone else. And you know, just
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: the just the little things that we do to you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: just to take our mind off football and getting to
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: know each other outside of the game of football. And
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's just that the foundation that might
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: want us to build as a you know, as a
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: team of being that connected together. Because once we go
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: out there for a season, we go to war, we know,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: you know what we got on the line and who
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: we got next to us, and you know what we
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: plan for.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: So I feel like we've been doing a great job.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Tory Horton with me Ian pronounced with you this afternoon
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: at Sea Hawk head quarters. Toy is it now? Do
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: you have a rod? Two rods in the same lake.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I got one ride?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got one ride.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Goes from like from the knee to the ankle. And
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: then I got like one nail that's kind of holding
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: it there.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Can you get through a metal detector?
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, I gotta let them know that I really Yeah,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: every time I fly, I gotta tell them I have
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: a metal.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: So, in all seriousness, like we're watching you out there,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I think we're the highlights for for a lot of people.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: On day one and training camp, fifteen walks out on
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the field, helmet in hand, no pup, You're ready to go.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: How healthy are you compared to not just last year obviously,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: but even going back to college when you were banged
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: up a little bit. How healthy are you compared to
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: those years?
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: I feel great, you know, just the hard work that
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I've been doing with the trainers and things like that
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: since I had the surgery. Of course, missing OTAs and
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: things like that. Just be coming in every day with
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: the same mindset of getting better each day and you know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: finally working out, being able to you know, finally lace
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: up and have a helmet and hand to go out
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: there with the team.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: It feels great to be out there. So I just
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: feel like it was just a lot of.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Hard work and you know, unseen work that was kind
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: of you know, just kind of underground. But that's that's
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: when you know, those diamonds and roughs, you know, kind
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: of start to shine. So I just feel like, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: it's a huge shout out to the trainers and things
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: like that, who's kind of you know, been with me
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: throughout that whole process and getting me to know where
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I'm at right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Now, Tori, We're gonna go behind the scenes with hard knocks,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: go behind the scenes. When did they give you the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: thumbs up, the full clearance you're we're not putting you
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: on pup. You're gonna be out there that first Saturday
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: practice And and how did that? How did that conversation
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: go and what went through your mind?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of uh, you know how like some
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: of the young guys kind of returned a little earlier
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: than the vets, so it's part of like the injured
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: and then then the rookies who returned back earlier with
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: the QBS, and you know, the ultimate test was doing
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: some of those practices which were uh of course more
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: slowed down, but still had some high intensity plays. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: that was pretty much the ultimate test of like, you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: is he's gonna go out there and you know, perform
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: and run routes and feel good, you know of doing
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: that and going out there and you know, feeling great.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Of course, still got the little rep count, but uh,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that just small steps of improvements. And you know, once
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: they told me that after the last r R i
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: V practice before the Vets came back, that you know, hey,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: you're good to go, like we're gonna give you the
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: green light to start training camp.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: You know, it was just a.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Bunch of a bunch of excitement. I actually didn't even
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: tell my family I got the thumbs up because I
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: just wanted to wanted it to be a surprise to
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: them because they just know how hard I've been working
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: in the off season. Just kind of been dialed in
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: the whole time. Didn't really take any trips to you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: enjoyed all seasons. My main focus was to you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: make sure my health was good and make sure the
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: leg was good to go. So you know, the hard
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: work paid off. And you know, I wouldn't go back
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: and say like, dang, I wish I'll you know, it
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: took a trip because you know, I'm way more excited
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: than I'm.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Actually back on the field.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: That's really good. David Trick when's thehead trainer out here,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: give me a shout out. I mean David and McKenzie
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and the rest of it. That's a great medical staff.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they don't. They don't get enough credit
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: for what they do with you guys. Before I let
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you go, so you're healthy, and again we'll go back
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: return touchdown and five receiving in in the eight games
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you play. That's six touchdowns in eight games. Rashid Shihed
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: comes in with you injured. They re signed him. We
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: know Cooper couples different this year. I might be wrong there,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and then I think you have the offensive player of
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the year if I'm not mistake number eleven JSN. When
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: you go into that receiver room you're looking around. What
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: goes through your mind?
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Man, Just a bunch of competitors. You know, we all
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: have different traits and we all like to feed off
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: each other. And then you know, just the just the depth.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: You know, we have a whole you know, great group
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: of guys in that room. And you know you can
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: even see in training camp we're all feeding off each other.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: We're all excited for each other, and you know, I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: excited about this year. You know, it's just Uh, it's
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: a lot of It's a lot of things out there
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: that you know, we could mess around with and do
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: and you know, just having that many weapons and pieces
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: to throw them into an offense is crazy. So uh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: you know, like I said, I got a lot of
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: faith in and Brian and what he got cooking up.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: And you know, I'm excited about the year. So, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: finally getting all together and going out there with this
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: group of guys, it's gonna be exciting.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Who returns kicks you or Rashid shi heat I take
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a problem to have.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great problem. But we don't know whoever
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: We know we know that we're gonna get the job done,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: so we're excited.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I got one more for you. What Cooper Cup? Yes,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: what is he like as a teammate in your position
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: group for a young guys second year? Is is he
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: hear the cliche coach on the field maybe into the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: film room? What is it like happening that a future
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer sitting there that that's on your team
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: on your side?
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Man, yes, man, Captain Coop for real, man, this dude
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: is he's.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Everything you can ask for as a vet.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: You know, you can even see from uh, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: es endgame last year on how you know, on how
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: much he's improved, and you know, having that that's the
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: other year he had. You know, I feel like that's
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: a huge part with Coop coming in and just guiding
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: us and helping us through his vision of things. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: you know, Coop is such a smart guy. You know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: he he knows football from you know, the front to
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: the back of his hand. And you know you can
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: go out there and ask him anything he's going to
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: give you. You know, what he.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Thinks about things.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: And you know, you you see a lot of guys
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: pulling cool asking you know, how how do you feel
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: about this route or how you feel about this run
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: scheme and how you approach you know, certain techniques and.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Things like that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And you know, he's just a just just a great
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: player and just a great human being to be honest,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: just to be around. I still remember to this day
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: getting drafted. He was the first dude.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Who texted me and said, welcome to the team. Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: And you know me growing up watching him, uh, just
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: just watching him play and at the highest stage Triple
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Crown all that, it just shows how humble he is.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: You know, always wanting to get better and want to
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: put his best foot forward for the team and just
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: just an all around team guy. And you know he's
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: still out there making plays and things like that. And man,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: we always joke around with him and we we mess
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: around call him unk, but we we know he not
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: really he not really young. You know, he he looks great,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: and uh, you know we just got none but the
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: utmost respect for him because of what he's you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: laid down and uh in that room. You know, it's
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: like he laid his own foundation in the receiver room
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: of how we attacked every day and how we attack
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: the film board and things like that, and just being
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: smarter than just going out there on abilities. You know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: sometimes you don't need to just use peer athleticism if
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: you're just that smart on the field to you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: take take less stress off your body and just do
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: it the smart way of getting open or you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: executing blocks and that just you know, something that you
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: kind of take in as a young guy from a
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: vet like him, and you know it's like them like
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: those little things do work out, and uh, that's just
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: you know, piece by piece that he teaches. You know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: everybody in the receiver room, even Jackson, I feel like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: uh yeah, it's a it's it's for sure a golden
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: gym that we got in the room. That's that's kind
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: of like unseen or you know, not as noticed, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: it is a huge part of our success of him
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: being there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You remind him that you watch him growing up.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I watch Man cool. I don't know how
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: nobody wats Coop Man. Heys great, he's he's special. Yeah,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: he's special.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a heck of a room you guys
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: are gonna put together. I think it's very under the radar,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: under the flying of the radar, what that receiver room
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: is going to be like this year, healthy Tory Horton,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: jsn Rashichi heat in the offense and all the off season,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: all the training camp. Quarterback's not bad either. Yeah, you
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: guys are going to be just fine. Hey, listen, a
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: million dollar smile. He's healthy. Fifteen's back out there, fans,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and he's raring to go. And we saw what he
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: could do with a broken leg last year, effectively a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: fractured leg. We saw what that was. So I won't
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: put anything on you, but man, a healthy Tory heart
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see what you got going on.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Have a great year. Thank you so much for joining us.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Thank you guys.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: That's Tory Horton joining us. And we'll take a quick break,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: come back with more. Nine three point three KTERFM.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Now back to ian forness at the Virginia Mason Athletics
• 24:53
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• 24:57
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• 25:00
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• 25:01
  Speaker 2: R f M. All right back in Virginia based Athletic
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Center infront's with you Anderson Hurst back in the studios
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of ninety three point three k FM on Elliott Avenue.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Do me a favor real quick. Just uh, we're gonna
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: get back to Seahawks. We'll do a lot of baseball
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: starting at one o'clock. But there isn't a reliever that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: maybe the Mariners might have been targeting. But he's not available.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Now where do you go?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke Weaver with someone who I was looking at
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and unfortunately he's looks looking like he's going to the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Pirates instead. He was from the Mets. Has two years
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: left on his deal or a year and a half.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I guess you could say, so Mariners are not getting
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: that reliever that I wish they were.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, we got Molly Wop coming up at one.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Chris will be with us until two forty five today
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: or maybe even three. Will keep him through soft crosslock a,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: something happens, just we'll have him around. One of the
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: things I'm gonna talk to him about, we'll give you
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the Dodger stuff is their farm system also must be
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: decent enough where they can get guys moved. And yeah, absolutely,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I mean that's part of can't can't be mad because
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: people in their job. Well, all right, just real quick,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the Tory Horton popped on a moment ago here at
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Seahawks training camp. First of all, I hope you enjoyed
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the interview, Andrews. I hope you enjoyed the interview. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: thought he was really good and just really well spoken
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and really just great answers. Stuff about Cooper Cup was awesome.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: There's a like. I mentioned this to Andrews in the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: break we've been and I'm I'll be honest, I'll take
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you behind the I'm pretty judicious who I asked for
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: out here. I mean, there are some bigger names we
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: could go for and ask our starters what I want
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: dudes that have a story to tell. I want guys
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that that I know can talk a little bit. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: heard him on the podium last week and I'm like,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: we haven't had Tory Horton on since drafted. I don't think, right,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: since since last year when he got drafted in spring
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. And you know the story of
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: playing with the broken leg basically like small thing. I've
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: had him, a lot of people had them. They're no
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: fun to get him to the level. Then he's got
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: a stress fracture. Yep. Now he's got a rod in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: his leg. That's crazy. And this guy looks phenomenal out
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: there right now and the work he put in. But
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: what jumped out at meanders is I'm asking him about
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: like he powered through that through eight games, you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: like he powered through it through eight games and then
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: finally he said, I got to shut it down. I'm done.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I got to shut it down. And man, you look
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: through there. He won a couple of games with nothing Burgers,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the Jaguar game, the Texans game. He didn't put up
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: any he didn't get a catch in those games. I'm
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: not sure if he had a return off to check
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: and see. But he was active. He played in those games,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and actually actually the Texans game he did not. I
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: think he was. I think he was inactive for that game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know Jaguars game. Sorry, the Jaguars game, he
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: was an active, got it. But the Commanders then he
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: comes off for the Commander's game and the last game
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he plays four catches for forty eight yards the twenty
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: five yard touchdown. If you remember, the guy was the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: guy was a machine and put up all all kinds
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of numbers playing on really one leg. Imagine what this
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: guy'll do. But he also was kind of hiding the injury,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: trying to look rout. He wanted to come back. You
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: could tell he wanted to come back, and I thought
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: what he said there was really key. He goes, yeah,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I just I'm hurting the team. I gotta get fixed.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not helping. And that's a selfless thing to do, because,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: as he said, there's a there was a feeling at
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that time that this team had something going, had something
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: special going, and yet he shut her down on his
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: own and finally went to the guys and said, you
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: got to look at this more and they did, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: they found the stress fracture. They kind of kept it
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: under wraps and then he was done for the rest
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: of the season. They put him on injured reserve two
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: weeks later and we didn't see him again. Just listening
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to him speak all the guys we've talked to so far,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think it does bleed down. I asked him about
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. It bleeds down from Mike McDonald. It's just
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the selfless way that this team goes about its business.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And every team has its own personality, every team has
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: its own way of doing things. But and it'll be
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: interesting to see. By the way, we'll give away the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: we had a corn hoole set from HBO for Hard Knocks.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: We'll give that away tomorrow on the air on the show.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: The first episode of Hard Knocks is tomorrow tomorrow night
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: on HBO. It'll be interesting to see what these guys
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: how they're portrayed in that show, because they come across
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: to me is I'm gonna use a term here, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it's an endearing term. Kind of boring, Yeah, honestly in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a good way, in a very good way. They're just
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: so business like and it comes and he said it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It comes from the coach, you know, Like JSN is
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the most unassuming superstar in the league, right, Like he
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: just is like he which I love. Like there's a
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: lot of we all know the receiver position, it's the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: most diva position in all of sports. Right. He ain't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that guy right in any way, he just is. He
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: is not to win, that's it wants to win, you know.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And there's teams. We always look back at the super
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Bowl team at twenty thirteen and the big personalities and
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the egos and everybody wants their money and all that.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And these guys will get paid. They know they're gonna
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: get paid. But but you know, you can live with that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: with as talented as they were, handful of Hall of
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Famers on that roster. You know what. Richard Sherman can
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: walk around like that, Earl Thomas Cam those guys can
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: walk around like that. Yeah. The guys that can't were
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the guys we've had here up until the last couple
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: of years. Jamal Adams can't act like that. I just can't. True, Like, dude,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you aren't that guy. You just are not that guy.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And that kind of translated into some other guys in
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the locker room and bit you know Smith, you know
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Smith turned into that guy. Russ was that guy a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: little bit the end too. Yes, you know, like like
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: here's the thing with Russ. For all those that get
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: upset when we criticized Russ, and by no means, listen, Russ.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Russ got this team to the super Bowl. Yes, this
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: team doesn't maybe win a super Bowl without Russ quarterback
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: in franchise history period. And he was and he was great.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Twenty twelve final six games, unbelievable, twenty thirteen, he won
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: some games for these guys. He just did, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: got him back to the super Bowl the next year
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: with some miraculous plays, especially in the Green Bay game,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: trusting his receivers even though Curse had had four balls
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to go through his hands for picks. Everything else, Russ
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: was great. But somewhere along the way, Russ lost his way.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And you know what the best example of that is
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: if Russ was was a little more selfless, had checked
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the ego at the door, had just tried to be,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you know, been the team guy that you would hope
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: guys would be. Russ would have a job right now
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, not on TV. Yes, he would like
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: he would still he would be a backup somewhere and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: making good money. Now look probably a good decision. I
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna be great at TV, I really do.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I think if he's if he's coachable in TV, if
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: he listens to the like the producers and the guys
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a no television and and and is actually genuine, he
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: could be great in television. He could be phenomenal. So
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I hope he is. But the point is this the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: selfless world that he was once in kind of went
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: away in all those guys. I think part of it
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: here at the quarterback is that way you know he's
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: he's been through. He talked about it last week. Week
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: he was on was Softy and Hugh and Darnold was
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: talking about all that you know, because I've had because
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I've had some real lows in this league, Like he
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: admitted that unprompted to Dave and to Hugh. And I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: think he appreciates everything right now, more so than a
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: lot of guys in his position around the league. And
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it trickles down from him to the players. But it
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: all comes from the coach. Man I the team flying
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: into the radar, which is the strangest thing in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: NFL is a team that returns mostly and intact a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: roster that won a Super Bowl last year. And yet
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: would you tell me Madden has him tenth tenth overall? Yeap,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and you don't.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: And the funny thing is that it is just as laughing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And the funny thing is it's like if that were
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: to happen, like you mentioned to the the kind of
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the old guard the all, could you imagine what would
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: be being said right now about no one's giving us
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: a chance, So everyone's overlooking us and.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You know, barking every day every day. I think these guys,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: these guys like it. Yeah. I think they like to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: fly to the right. I think they like the underdugmentality. Hell,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: do you see this today? This is that, this is
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: another grid. We'll wrap it up with this. Yeah. The
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: dumbest thing in the world is the NFL Top one
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: hundred list. Oh god, I know. And here's where it
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: became stupid. Yeah, Devin Witherspoon is not in the top
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: one hundred. I think he. I think they showed the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: guys that just missed, like the ten guys that just
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: missed stupid. He's one nine. Oh my god, Devin Witherspoon
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: is one nine. Yeah, you're just you're not paying attention,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: you know. But he's the funny thing is Devin. He
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: might be the loudest voice on the field in the game, right,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: He's always chirping, he's always talking. And yeah, for him
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to be not even in the top I kept I
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: kept looking at this list, going, well, okay, whatever, I think,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: what do they have two guys so far? I think
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: they just have two. I think they Williams, Leonard Williams
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and uh and Ernest Jones. Right, there's only like twenty
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: spots left they won the Are you sure that? I mean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that sounds so diabolical that Devin Witherspoon's not he's white.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: He was like one or nine. It's like right right
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: right next to like Tyler Warren Jez is what it was? Yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: it was. It's ridiculous, I mean it, But that's that's okay. Yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: this guy, this guy will use that for motivation. Oh
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: my god, right, seven, are you Oh my god, that's
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: so bad? Can you believe that is so bad? He
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: is one of the premier defensive players in the league.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: He's arguably the best defensive player on what was the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: best defensive team in the league last year? Yeah, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: he's he's not in the top one hundred. Yeah you go,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: you go figure that one out.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: Huh.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: That's why these lists are stupid. But you know what,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I just gave it three minutes, so it's I'm the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: dumb one here, not not not the NFL. They got
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: me talking, all right. We'll come back. Wrap up hour
• 34:43
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• 35:21
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• 35:36
  Speaker 2: All right, if you've been a chair before, we male
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: op a top of the hour, Nathan and Chris. Yes,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: they are standing by, see the tax people. Yes, well,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: yes we are mollywopping today. Yes, the boys are on standby. Yes,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: they're coming on right to rock and roll. Here we go.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Don't worry, don't worry. Didn't have them last Monday. People
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: were upset. I'm like, well, they're playing at eleven o'clock
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: while we have them on retinuel playing That makes no sense.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: But today, trade Den, I don't think we've ever had
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: a mollywop actually on a trade devil.
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: Yea.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Isn't it normally on like a Sunday or something like that. No, no, no,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: it's like the day of the week. It just yeah,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: it feels odd that it's on this Monday.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll have those guys popping on here just
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a few minutes and there's nothing else has happened that's
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of significance, right, Nope, not at all.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I mean a couple of dead another couple of relievers
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: have been moved. The biggest thing that I'm seeing is
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: there's not, like I mean talked about this in the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: break here, there's not a lot of bats that are
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: being moved around right as at this point. Radley Rutchman
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: is the only one. But like you look at his
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: like last three years and even just this year, he's
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: like a mid seven hundred ops guy, you know, a
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: far cry. Obviously the heat brings value with the defense
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: of the catcher side of the ball as well. But
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: that's like the best bat that's been moved, and I
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: guess Taylor Ward would probably be number two after that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: To be honest.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, Well, that's kind of a big
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: thing that I'm noticing during this trade deadline so far.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Baltimore is a good example of why you probably need
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: to go for it when you think there's even a
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: glimmer of hope. Absolutely, because they're only a couple of
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: years removed from being very Mariners.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Like right, they had a lot of young guys and
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: they wanted to stay on their timeline and they didn't
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: make a lot of the big moves the wind now moves.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: And now look at them right.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Now, they're just now they're selling yep, just falling up.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's insane, you know. I mean the Alie
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Rutchman's a cornerstone piece for their team, right they have
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: now gone. So they've they've made the decision to just
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: overhaul it. Uh. And that's why I like, I do
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: applaud with what Jerry and Justin have been doing in
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: that sense, like they understand that, like if your window
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: is open, you have no idea when it's gonna slam shut, right,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: like none. And honestly, maybe it will, Maybe it will
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: after this year, because maybe we've seen the best of
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: cal Rawley. Ever, God, I hope not, I really hope not. Well,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I went back I want to say, like, hey, like
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the home run yesterday and it felt like, well, it
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: feels like the power is it coming back and all that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: So let's just let's just look at the splits here
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: for a second, shall we. Yeah, In the in the
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: last in the last week, in the last week, cal
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Raley he was sorry about this. He was three for
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: twenty three that good in the I don't think I
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: could be wrong. I don't think it's good now. But
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: and and out of those three, two of the three
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: hits were home runs, so you're like, Okay, well, maybe
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: maybe the slugging is getting back. He slugged at four
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to thirty five for the last week, but that's because
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: he's like, the only hits he had were those, right,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but he hit one thirty. If you go back to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the last fourteen days, his slashes are batting average one
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: fifty nine, on base two sixty, slugging three eighty six
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: ops sixty six.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: It's never a high average guy, right, He's never gonna
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: be the guy that you know slaps a couple singles
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: here and there, but he's not walking.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: He's not doing anything besides hits seven for forty four
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: in the last two weeks, exactly twelve for seventy six
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: in the last four weeks since coming off the DL. Yes,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: we've seen a little bit of pop. I for one,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care about a three hundred nine foot fly out.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah, like like you know who you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: because we can't have it both ways. We did not care, No,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: we did not its thanks, Mike. I appreciate that. You know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: like we can't have it where we complained all those
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: years about Justin Smoke's warning track power. Oh god, right,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: don't bring that dame back into this conversation. And was
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that not the case though it was it was We've
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: given justice Justin Smoke. I mean that boy, he hit
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that hard. You know his foul, but it was hard.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Oh he just just barely missed. I don't know, man, No,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it's when the ball goes over the fence. That's a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: good thing wherever it is, not not missing by twelve
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: feet in center field, like, no, just stop it. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: think that Jerry's thoughts and when he said this last week,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: or Justin's or whoever it was Jerry when he said, hey,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: you know, like our our biggest improvement offense is going
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to come inside and they're laying there they're hoping that
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: it's Cal Naylor, Julio. Randy's been fine, yeah, right, or
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: anything good. He's been your best offensive player this year.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: But those four guys, I mean again, Can Zone's been
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: maybe your best guy, yeah, consistently in the second half.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: So it's been Randy, Cole Young and Can Zone that
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: has been your offense. Yeah, it's a weird it's a
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: weird trade Trade deadline day, Yeah, a strange one. Just
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: trying to wrap your arms around it. All right, Well,
• 40:27
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• 40:30
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• 40:41
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• 42:44
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• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, no, no, so this is kind
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• 42:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, here are energy in that answer there?
• 42:59
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• 43:03
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• 43:05
  Speaker 2: get a lot of topics to get to. And by
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the way, we're gonna keep Chris up. We'll turn Nathan
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Leos after the second segment, but we'll keep Chris around
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: for the two o'clock hour just in case stuff happens.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: And the trades are made names that we don't know.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: That's why he's here. He'll tell us who they are
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: and if they make sense for Seattle or anybody else,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: especially teams in the American League. So all that's coming up.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Before we get to that, let's just talk about the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: week that was for the Mariners and how things kind
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: of looked and how they transpired over the week. Of course,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: we saw they won two out of three over the
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: weekend before that, not so good with the Dodgers series.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: So let's get opening thoughts on the week that was
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: before we get to trade deadline. Let's talk about on
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the field first. Nathan Bishop fire Away, Yeah, I feel like.
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: The team played one good game last week. It was
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: the five of home run outburst against the Dodgers, which
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: was really I mean when I say one good game,
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: that was legitimately arguably the most fun game of the
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: season so far.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Like that was just a blast.
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: You go into the stadium of the best team in
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: the universe and you go toe to toe with them
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: big bashers going left and right. As we've always been
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: talking and I've always been saying, Dom Canzone once again
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: to the rescue saves this team by hitting two home
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: runs and they get a great victory. The rest of
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: the time they look like but they look like they've
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: been looked. They've looked for another the last what month,
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: month and a half or so. They got to win
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: on two on Saturday because the Twins forgot how baseball
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: is played and what the rules are. And then yesterday
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: they you know, really felt very nineteen ninety six Mirriors, honestly,
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: just having a bulpen come out and just hemorrhage runs
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: after your offense gets some big hits, but credit to
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: the guys. So that's the thing about on Sunday. So
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: we've seen this team falter before in the past years.
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: We've talked a lot about that, but invariably they have
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: always been able to pull themselves out of it. Well,
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: this year it feels like they just haven't been able
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: to pull themselves out of the crap. But Sunday that
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: felt like the kind of thing of we're not beholden
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: to momentum, we're not beholden to the past. We can
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: choose to just change what's happening right here and right now,
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: and that's what they did in the bottom of the
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: ninth and they really needed it because the Houston Astros
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: are in first place in the American League West, which,
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: if that holds straight up, one of the most embarrassing
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: thing that's ever happened in the Jerry to Poto tenure.
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: If the twenty six Houston Astros whin the AL West,
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: that's I mean, just you know, I would say, just
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: hang him up and retire. But we all know that
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: Jerry's not allowed to be fired or to leave. Even
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: if he wants to leave, he can't. He's like baked
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: into the walls at this point. They'd have to tear
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: down the stadium and fumigate it so he can't go anywhere.
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: So but either way, it would be very embarrassing if
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: the Astros won. But you know, we're gonna pivot to
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: the thing that gets talked about later today, I'm sure.
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: But the thing that this team needs to do is
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: get a whole heck of a lot better as far
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: as roster, because we've seen over one hundred and ten
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: games now of them just being I don't know, the
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: least enjoyable baseball team to watch since at least two
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: nineteen feels very twenty eighteen to me this season. So
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: it's just it's just gross. It needs to get better,
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: all right, Chris Crawford, fire away.
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna just go quick because I want you to
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: get to all your trade deadline stuff. I think they
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: were extremely fortunate to win both of those games yesterday
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: and in particular Saturday, And if not for Royce Lewis,
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: basically forgetting how to play baseball, the Mariners probably don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: win on Saturday. It's the stupidest thing I've seen a
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: non Mariner do in a very very long time, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: I'm super appreciative of it. Thank you so much, Royce.
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: Gift basket is in the mail. Sometimes it's better to
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: be lucky than good, and the Mariners have not had
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: a hell of a lot of luck, if we're just
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: being honest. Have they played well, of course not. But
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: have the Mariners had a bunch of good breaks? No,
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: So it was kind of nice to see a couple
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: of good breaks. Now, you've got to play good baseball,
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: and this is going to be a gauntlet in August.
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: It's going to be really, really tough, but you got
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: some winnable games coming up, and you know what, it's
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: awesome to see the Houston Astros take over first place
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: while Nathan is one hundred percent correct. It would be
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: embarrassing as hell if they win the division. The cool
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: thing is the Mariners are going to win the tiebreaker
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: against the Astros. That's something that really matters here too,
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: as long as they don't completely as TB. I think
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: the Mariners are going to win that tiebreaker, and they've
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: played well against Houston over the last couple of years,
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: so that presents opportunity as well. That series against the
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: Dodgers was just hot garbage outside of that first game,
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: and it showed they're a far long ways away if
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: I think, for being World Series contenders. Even if they
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: make this trade or a trade in the next two hours,
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: that gets like a substantial thing, which who knows if
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: they're going to do or not. I kind of doubt it,
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: but it's just nice to still be in the conversation
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: because a bad series against Minnesota could have been well,
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: we would have been talking about a lot different trade deadline.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I think, does it change anything, Chris, do you think
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: in their minds that would ended up happening with the
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: weekend series? Does it change anything? The fact that they
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: won two of three and were able to kind of
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: keep their heads above water. Does that change anything, Chris
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: in terms of how you think they approach it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: It probably shouldn't have. But I will say if they
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: would have lost, if they would have been swept here,
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: I think it changes a lot. Like the Luis Castillo trade,
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: certainly is going to happen either way, because I just
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: think they really wanted to move that contract. And if
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: you happen to get a reliever who can help you,
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: so be it. But I don't think you see the
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: trade they made today. If they're not in if they
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: get swept by the Twins, or even lose two of
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: three against the Twins, I think they would have been
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: a very standpat organization. And now you put yourself more
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: into the position of buyer. We'll see exactly what happens
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: over these next two hours. And by the way, guys,
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: things can leak after those two hours as well. It
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: takes a little bit for these trades to get processed.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I do think it certainly helped their position
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: to win two games against a Twins team that's been
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: playing pretty darn well, whether they deserve to win those
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: games or not.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Nathan, do you think it should have changed their thinking?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: As you just said, They've scuffled through one hundred and
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: nineteen games or whatever it is so far and have
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: looked kind of the same all year. I mean, do
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: anything even have changed your attitude about this team over
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: the last three three days.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: No, because probably wrongfully, but just because I'm stubborn, and
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: because my eternal stance on all of this is that
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: the seattlemanner should be doing whatever they can do in
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: order to make the world first World Series in franchise
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: history as soon as they possibly can. And since there
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: are only three games out of first place in the
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: world's worst division and they've got plenty of wild card opportunity,
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: they should sell anybody. Anybody should be for sale in
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: order to make this team better. The American League is
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: trash still, there's still no great teams out there. Even
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: with Boston Surgeon and getting Adlee Rushman today, there's no
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: reason that this team can't get hot in the playoffs
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: and go make the World Series. So they should be
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: doing whatever they can now. I was shaking my head
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: at the beginning because I don't think that this weekend
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: really move the needle of what they are wanting to do,
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: which is what they are doing, which is hedging because
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: that's what they like to do.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: They're hedging a lot.
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: Hey, the Astros just made a trade.
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: So they don't have a good farm system. Chris, how
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: did they do that?
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: Astros are acquiring Dalton Varshow from the Blue Jays. According
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: to the channel Rome of the Athletic, that's a very
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: interesting move.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Thoughts on that real quick, Chris, Yeah, I mean.
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: It improves their outfield defense. It's, you know, because of
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: how bad Texas has screwed the pooch here and also
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: Jacob de Grond declining a trade I believe to Atlanta.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: We don't know exactly where, but definitely invoking his no
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: trade clause them seeing that they are absolutely in this
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: when you probably could have had them as sellers earlier
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: in the month. It doesn't like move the needle or anything,
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: but it's a very solid depth piece for a team
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: that has dealt with a lot of injuries and does
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: not have the greatest outfield defense. Dalton Varshow can go
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: get it in the outfield.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Let me recap something real quick, because I just asked
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: you guys effectively in two different ways, the same questions
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that affect them at all. What they're doing with the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: three games over the weekend, taking two or three from Minnesota.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I wonder how just wondering out loud, Nathan, i'lllet you
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: jump in first. I wonder how much Houston has changed
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: its line of thinking in the last say, seven days.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: Gosh.
• 51:23
  Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know, because I feel like the
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: Astros and this is not a fact check opinion. I
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: do actually try to do some research sometimes, but this
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: is not one of those times that I've done that
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: full caveat. I feel like Houston is always trying to
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: be aggressive at the deadline, and I feel like the Astros,
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: for better or for worse, I mean, they definitely I
• 51:40
  Speaker 9: was joking with Chris thirty seconds ago about them not
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: having a good farm system. They just don't care, man Like.
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: It's not quite like the sense of like the Padres,
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: where a J. Pelar literally does not care about the
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: farm system and we'll trade the kids for anything. But
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: the Astros are trying to win every year during the season. Now,
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: they've cut back on their spending a lot. They've done
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: They've let some guys walk in free agency, but when
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: the season is going, they're trying to win as many
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: baseball games as they possibly can. Even though they have,
• 52:07
  Speaker 9: by all intents and purposes, an absolute barren wasteland of
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: a farm system, They're still going to go out there
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: and get better. And I bet that's the mindset that
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: they've been thinking with until it really, really really really
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: flips bad for them.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: All Right, let's get to we'll kind of go in
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: chronological order starting over the weekend, and then we'll move
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: into today's move by the Mariners again, its trade Deadlin Day.
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  Speaker 2: out at simply Seattle dot com. So the Mariner's trade
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Luis Castill over the weekend, they pick up a prospect catcher,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: an outfielder who is good three years ago and has
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: them been to the bigs this season, and a possible
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: addition to your bullpen in a leverage arm situation. I'm
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: gonna say this and maybe you guys will just tell
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: me I'm crazy. To me, it's it just screams salary dump.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: They wanted to get rid of Castillo's money off the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: books six starters. We all know the situation with six starters,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the piggyback and all those things. I look at it
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: a little bit different. I know he's had a little
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: bit of a down year at Castillo. I get that
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: dude was an absolute beast in some of the biggest
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: games for this franchise since he came here from Cincinnati,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: an absolute warrior. I'm not gonna I understand why the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: move is made. I also worried with Bryce Miller particles
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: floating around in his elbow. I had this really bad feeling.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's because I've been a Mariners fan for
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: fifty years, Like this really bad feeling. They're gonna go
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: from six starters to four here pretty quick. You know
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: when when when all of a sudden, Miller's pieces in
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: his elbows start exploding or something alike. But I just
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: have that. I hope that doesn't happen. I hope I'm wrong,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to give a team I'm not.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not one that's going to apply a team for
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: dump and salary. I'm just not. I'm not giving them
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: an a plus. And wow, what a great move. They
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: saved money. That's what this was about. Am I wrong, Chris, No.
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: No, not at all. Now there are perks per se
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: to doing that outside of financial stuff, like you are
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: getting a you are going to a normal rotation. You
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: are getting a reliever who was better than the Nick
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: Devila's who is better than those guys. But this was
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: mostly salary. And it sucks because I got a bunch
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: of comments on mile Y after the trade about how, oh,
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: we're so excited that we got rid of this contract. Guys,
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: shut up, just shut up.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: You're you're wrong.
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: It's it's not good to be right of a contract
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: of a good player, and Luis Castillo is still It's
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: just it's just ridiculous that to be so invested in
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: John Stanton's bottom line that you think, oh, that's a
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: good thing that we're getting rid of this guy. And
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: you know, does this trade may be easier Becau because
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: of Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan the potential of them
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: coming to help you. Yeah, I think so, And I'm
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: super excited, and I think, honestly, Kate Anderson is better
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: than Luis Castillo at this point. We'll have to see
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: how it works out, but I'm a big believer in
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: that talent. I think he's the best prospect in baseball,
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: and I think that he should be pitching for the
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: Mariners this year. But I'm very frustrated by the lack
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: of appreciation for what Luis Costello did for this franchise.
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: You very disappointed that people care more about the financial
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: outlook of the Seattle Mariners more than what's going to
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: help the Seattle Mariners win the World Series because the
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: Mariners didn't get better with this move. They didn't they
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: at best pushed. At best, you pushed by gaining a
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: guy who is better than those Davilas and those Cole Wilcox,
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: and also added an extra arm now right, because the
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: bullpen was a little hurt by going with this six
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: man rotation. Andrews has brought it up very well on
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: his Locked On recaps, and it is something that you
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: have to be cognizant of. But it's a salary dump.
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: This wasn't a move to get better. I really like
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: Boston Smith. I think he's a top ten prospect in
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: this system, but this is similar to me to the
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: Paul Seawall trade, where I would have loved this trade
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: in November or December. I don't love this trade on
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: July thirtieth or whatever the hell date it was. It
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: just it doesn't send the right message to me. Many disagreeing,
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: but that's just how I feel about the situation.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, they won two games after it,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: but like you could see from the reaction of his teammates,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: they're not happy. Yeah, right, like they weren't happy with it.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, not quite to the Seawall level, but they
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: they weren't happy. Nathan. I'll let you go because I
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: know you are concerned about ownership's bottom line and if
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and their profitability. So we got from there.
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just can we can?
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: We just step back here for a quick second and
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: just remind everyone as we're talking through this, you're talking.
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: If you say that you like this trade for Seattle,
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: what you're choosing to do is your choosing to opt
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: in to caring about a billionaire's money. That's what you have.
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: There is literally no other argument for this trade other
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: than well, the Mariners exist in this artificial economic limitation
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: set by their cabal of dorks from the eighties who
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: had one good idea of around the personal computer and
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: have never done anything useful for humanity since and that
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: I have to opt into caring about all of that,
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: and I don't have to. I want the Mariners to
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: win the World Series. If they had paid all of
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: Luis Castillo's contract this year and next year, could they
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: have gotten way more talent back for him, Hell yes
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: they could have. Would it be a better team because
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: of it, Hell yes they would be. Would they have
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: a better chance of winning the World Series for the
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: first time ever? Hell yes they would. I don't care
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: about anything else. Screw the money, Screw these owners who
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: make this team over and over and over again. Make
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: this kind of decision. It sucks so bad. And if
• 57:57
  Speaker 9: you disagree, just remember these guys don't care about you.
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah they don't. The billionaires don't care what you think.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: That's all. Thank you?
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: Can I can I make one amendment to that, rough Quaid,
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: because I agree with everything Nathan said. The one thing
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: I want to add. It's either caring about John Stanton's
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: pocketbook or the naive and I cannot stress the word
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: naive enough belief that oh they're gonna reinvest this, this
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: is going to be a way for them to go.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Have you ever done it? Number one?
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: They've never done it? And number two, Are you freaking
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: kidding me that this ownerships group is that cheap that
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: they have to move Louise Castillo in order to go
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: sign a couple of ten million dollar players? Are you
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: freaking kidding me?
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: Come on, come on, like, can I just echo on
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: to that one? Just just remember yourself, just go back
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: in time. If you're older than twenty five years old.
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: When they traded Robinson Cano, what were we told, we're
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: gonna take those savings, We're gonna stockpile them away, and
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: when it's time to build a winner, we're gonna spend them. Well,
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: then when Manny Machado and Bryce Harper and Francisco Lindoor
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: and all of these great players became available, the mirrors
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: didn't even bleeping try to sign those guys, never even tried.
• 59:04
  Speaker 9: They sat on that money and they squatted on it.
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: They traded Gino for money break, That traded Jared Helnick
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: for a money break. They traded all of these guys
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: just to save money that they then squat on and don't.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Do crap with it.
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: You don't buy it ever ever.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Buy By the way, Chris Larsen is online one from Microsoft.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: You might want to talk to you real quick about that.
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: How doing these days? Chris?
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: It stucks doing really well right now, so I can't
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: say anything too negative.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: But Windows eleven sucks. I'd rather have Windows ten because Chris,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: because Chris brought your name into this mix, Andrews, I'll
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: let you fire off on the Casio trade real quick.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. My thought is both
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: things can be true. I don't want to trade Luis Castillo,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: but if you are in the mind that you have to,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: which again I don't want to. I guess you could
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: say they were able to get rid of his contracts
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: while getting at least something in return. But at the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: end of the day, I wanted to keep this guy.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I think, honestly, you can make an argument that Luis
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Castillo would have been a better bullpen arm than Sir
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Anthony Dimingez. At this point, it's just yeah, it's just
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: a question of what you wanted to do there. And
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing is what Nathan just said, if you're
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: going to trade him, actually go and make your team better.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: You could have eaten some money and gotten a much
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: better return to go and win the World Series this year, right,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: And that didn't end up happening. So yes, I get it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: You're looking at Kate Anderson. You want him to come up.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: You already have six guys or five now after the trade,
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  Speaker 3: so that that's gonna be something that you're looking forward to.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: But Ian mentioned it too. You could easily go from
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: six to four really quickly.
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  Speaker 3: And Kate Anderson has an innings cap as we've all
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: kind of figured out at this point as well, So
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: it's not like he's gonna come in and instantly be,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: you know, a savior to this team or anything like that.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: So and the big thing for me is it's another
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: clubhouse presence that you're getting rid of. And we've seen
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: how fragile this clubhouse is at this point. So you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: got rid of Gino Suarez, who I think held this
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: group together so much better than a lot of other
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: people may have, you know, really anticipated at this point,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: and now you're getting rid of Luis Castillo, who everyone adoors.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: So if nothing else, your clubhouse got worse. All right,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: let's do this, take a quick break. We'll come back.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: They did make a move today that that does help
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: the baseball team immediately. I think we can all agree
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: with that. With Taylor Ward, at least he helps with
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the getting guys on base because he gets on base.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing, doesn't he has. There's a proud
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: tradition in Baltimore, started by Brady Anderson many years ago,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: that you hit a lot of home runs one year
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: and then none the next. He's falling into that category,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: but he does get on base, leads the American League
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: in walks as well. Talk about Taylor Ward and look
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: ahead to the trade deadline, which comes up at three
• 1:01:46
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  Speaker 2: Uh Chris fire Away. Taylor Ward.
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  Speaker 8: Tend Award is somebody Mariner fans should be pretty familiar
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: with because he used to beat the crap out of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: him for a long time. And you know, the Baltimore
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: makes the trade there, they give up Grayson Rodriguez, and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: they assume they're getting the the thirty plus homer guy
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: that he was last year and a guy who draws
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: a good amount of walks. They got the walks and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: they got none of the power. But this is a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: guy who, like Ian mentioned before the commercial break, draws
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: a ton of free passes. He is an excellent approach
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: at the plate. The power just hasn't been there. But
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: what he does, and I know Mariner fans, you're going
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: to just scream when you hear this. He gets on base.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: He gets on base against left handers. He has been
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: a lefty killer for a long time. And I know
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: you here immediately think of Rob Refschneider and Christin Orfia
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: and Dono Vincelano and all these guys who just haven't
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: worked out. But there's a little bit more of a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: higher track record than those guys and being a little
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: bit closer to an upper echelon player, not an upper
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: echelon player, but certainly compared to those guys. He's definitely,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: you know, the three to four win player. He's on
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: pace to actually have his best season by war. It's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: a solid defensive player, gets on bas the type of
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: guy you can hit first or second, or if he's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: sitting in near the bottom of your lineup, you know
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: that's not so bad either to have somebody who can
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 8: turn that lineup over. He addresses in need. He addresses
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: a need. He's a fine defender. I imagine he'll get
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: a chance to play a lot of right field, assuming
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: they're left fielder isn't traded in the next hour and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: a half. Anyway, it's a solid move and you didn't
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: give up anything really substantial to.
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  Speaker 2: Go get it. Nathan, where are we by the way
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: and the ref tracker? I think it was him and Pollock?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Where are we at with that?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, I'm so sorry. We we actually stopped keeping track.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: We're now we're now trying to track pree Il Rob
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: against post Il Rob and where I think we're at
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: one hit post Il to fourteen hits before the Il.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: So we've started a new tracker. I don't have the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: numbers in front of me, but I'll make sure that
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  Speaker 9: I report back. It sounds like he's a lot healthier
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: now we're all rooting for Rob. I'll just add that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: also with Taylor Ward, who I think the thing with
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: Ward is obviously the the on base percentage. But like
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: the track record at Chris's point is what I really
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 9: looked to. Like the fact that he's not hitting for power,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 9: the fact that he's he's offensively basically right handed JP
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: Crawford this year both complimentary and derogatory. I would say,
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  Speaker 9: is abnormal for his career, Like whatever is going on
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: with that power and you never know, like just a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: change of scenery or another I on the swing, somebody's saying, hey,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: Taylor X y Z and then he unlocks that. I mean,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 9: what did he hit in twenty twenty five thirty six
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  Speaker 9: home runs? Yeah, the power is there, man, Like. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: like it because he's not replacing anything in right field
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: that you're gonna miss, like and I'm not saying that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: to be a jerk about the guys that are probably
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: not going to be playing in right field right now,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 9: but that's a huge need. If all Taylor Ward is
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: is what he is right now, which is, as I said,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 9: right handed hitting JP Crawford with good defense, that's a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: huge improvement for this team. And then if he gets
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  Speaker 9: the power back down the stretch man, it's a steal.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: They didn't give up anything to get him.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Well, Hopey, come on now, let's go.
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  Speaker 9: Sorry, I missus Hoppy. If you're listening, I think your
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: son's a very I hope he has a very long
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: and fruitful career.
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  Speaker 8: I mean he could be a good high leverage reliever someday,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: but I didn't see anything. And the fact he has
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: no pitch to get left handers out is a big
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: concern because today's day and age, when we you can't
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 8: have a Tony Fossis and your bullpen and Ian, I'm
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: sure you love that reference. It makes it much more
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: difficult to be a guy who can't get at least
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: or can't get hitters from both sides of the played out.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: So it's very difficult for me to imagine that they
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: regret this straight too much.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: The two other guys that gave up Chris just organizational
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: depth guys.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: Keith Law told me that the seventeenth rounder guy whose
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: name I already forgot about, is a guy that some
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 8: people have started to like. He's looked good in the ACL,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: so you know he's the one who has a chance
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: to be a starter. Brock Moore has elite stuff, but
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: just no idea where the hell that stuff is going.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: Like the walk rate is something like six for his
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: MiLB career, probably just organizational depth. But the third player
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: in the trade who's so good that I can't think
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 8: of his name right now, is probably the one to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: pay the most attention to it.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this in our final few minutes here
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• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: the final was it just under an hour half about
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: eighty seven minutes to go before the trade deadline is
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: here and gone? Nathan, what would you like to see
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: them do? Like, just realistically, what do you think they
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: need to do? What would you like to see them do? Here?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking about specific players, just in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: general terms, what do you want to see them do? Yeah?
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  Speaker 9: I would love to see I mean, there's so many
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: different ways that you could go with this. And I'm
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: not saying that the list. I don't expect this list
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: that I would give to be to be fully checked off,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: but any one of another high leverage reliever would just
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: be a godsend. I'm not count County, Sir Anthony Dimingez.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: I think he could be if you know, everything goes right,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: he could be that guy. But he hasn't been, so
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: there's not a reason to think that he will be.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 9: So a high leverage reliever would be fantastic. A right
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: handed hitting infielder who can actually play some defense, and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 9: god forbid, I mean, honestly, if I'm dreaming, I can't
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: remember how in depth we've talked about this on the show.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 9: I would love to see a major league shortstop. And
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: this is not a shot at Cold Emerson, who I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: absolutely love. The kid does not belong in the position
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 9: that he's in this year right now. It reminds me
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 9: of twenty fifteen Mikes Inino. It's just not a good
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: fit in twenty twenty six. So a right handed hitting
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: shortstop would probably be the dream acquisition for me. I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: just don't think that that's very realistic because there's not
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: a lot of those guys out there.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Chris, take that and run with it. Hel realistic,
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  Speaker 2: and what Nathan said is out.
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  Speaker 8: There right now, it's somewhat realistic. The reliever thing is
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: still there, like there's still plenty of relievers. I really
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: wanted them to get Luke Weaver. Unfortunately the Pirates offered
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: a very good prospect, and good for the Pirates for
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: making a move in trying for the first time in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: what seems like eighty years. The infield thing is the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: most interesting thing to me because I wholeheartedly agree and
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  Speaker 8: I don't care if it's a right handed hitter, a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: left handed hitter, somebody who somehow just stands in the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: middle of the plate and twerks like I don't care,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: like I just want a good infielder. If cj. Abrams
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: hits from the left side, I don't care that he's
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: not right handed. I want a guy like that, like
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: Jeremy Pania could have been had a few weeks ago,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: that's not gonna happen, and I that they would have
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: been willing to deal in to Seattle anyway, But like,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: you gotta go get another infielder. You cannot rely Colt.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: Emerson's defense has been at best, okay, probably below that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: and relying on Brendan Donnovan treating him like a trade
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: deadline acquisition. And I swear to God Jerry and Justin.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: If I hear that nothing's going to happen, but I'm
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: gonna be really upset about it, Please do not tell
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: me it's like a trade deadline acquisition. He's someone you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: already had.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: I'm just telling you it's a pre shut up from
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 8: Christopher Vincent Crawford. You gotta go get a reliever, is
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: the most realistic thing. And if if they're watching this
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: bullpen right now and thinking that Sir Anthony Domingez fixes everything,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: and that you think that just getting Matt brash in
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 8: maybe three weeks back is going to be enough, no
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: way in hell. There is no way in hell even
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 8: if Ryan Sloan and Kate Anderson came up to help
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: your bullpen, I'd still want to go get another arm
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: because Bizarto is clearly tired. It's so obvious. It may
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: not be by velocity, it's by command. You can tell
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 8: that there's so much middle, middle and the lack of spin.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: He's just giving up ding dongs all over the place here.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: You've got to go get another reliever. It sucks that
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: they weren't able to get a weaver, but there are
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: some plenty of guys that you can go get to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: make this bullpen better.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like Bizarto's pitched in every game this year?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Am I wrong in that? It's actually all right? Okay?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, hey, you know, it's a day
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: that ends with why and Bizarto's pitching again? That's uh?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: You take you take Casey.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 9: Legomina away from Dan Wilson. He's gonna smash that Bizaro
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: Carlos too, You kidding me?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And you take away Carlos Barguess, what's the man
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: supposed to Doh my gosh, all right, let me let
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: me let me throw the Mason Miller sing out there
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: just for giggles. It doesn't feel like it's gonna happen.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: But Nathan, like Mason Miller. Would you be willing if
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: they did give up one of their top two prized
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: possessions in the Miners, Sloaner or Anderson? What would you think? Well,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: first of.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 9: All, it would be, by leaps and bounds, the most
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 9: courageous thing that this front office has ever done as
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: far as trying to actually leverage into a World Series winner.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: So I would begrudgingly acknowledge that and be very very
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: very very excited for Mason Miller, because we haven't seen
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: a lot of reliever seasons in baseball like twenty twenty
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: six Mason Miller. It's pretty historic what he's been up to.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 9: But if it's Ryan Sloan, who I understand why everybody
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: says he's the second best pitching prospect in baseball or
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 9: some people do. I think I can probably win some
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: deal with it. But if it's Kate Anderson, who should,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: as Chris said, be pitching in Seattle right now. Now,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: we're talking about trading a major league starter for a
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 9: major league reliever, and unless it's the best reliever, which
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 9: it is, or the worst starter, which it almost certainly
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 9: is not, I have a really hard time getting behind that.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: But outside of Kate Anderson, I'm probably getting pretty excited.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: If what about if it's n Emerson Hancock.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 9: Yes, I think I personally am okay with that. I
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 9: think that one of the coolest Like I'm such a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: negative guy, I know, but I really think one of
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 9: the coolest things about the twenty twenty six Marris has
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 9: been Emerson Hancock's season. I'm really happy for the guy,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 9: but I just don't know how I feel about this
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 9: being his new baseline or the new normal for him,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: And what are you supposed to do when you're a
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: big brain, smart guy.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: You buy alow when you sell high.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: So this feels like a sell high opportunity for Emerson Hancock.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Chris Is was Miller not redundant? I mean, I always
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: better than Munyo's. But then you move munyos into the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: high leverlge where I get that, But then you're gonna
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: get brashed back at some point. It just feels like,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got to get there first, You got
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: to get to the night dining first. Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: Sure, I mean it would be really nice to say
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: if you have Matt Brash and Mason Miller and Andres Munnos,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: if you have a lead after six innings, you feel
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: really really good, like beyond right good, You're going you
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: always win? Yeah, yeah, yeah, always win and real quick.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: On the Kate Anderson thing, just because the padres are
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: asking for him doesn't mean that's a serious thing. Like
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: I asked for kJ R to pay me when I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: co host for Ian, it doesn't mean that I actually
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: get it.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Like that's not.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: Ask for things you don't actually get them. Like the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: question for me would be like are you willing to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: move a lazarro Montes for him?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Are you willing to move like a Ryan Sloan?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: I really struggle to move top ten prospects for that guy.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: But I also think the Padres have a little bit
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: of sunk in cost fallacy because they gave up the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: number two prospect in all of baseball, the universal number
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: two prospect in all of baseball, to get him. So
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: you may feel like, hey, we have to get a similar,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: if not better return in order to justify it. If
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: you can do it without moving those two guys though,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 8: Ryan Sloan and KATEA. Anderson, you have to do it
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: else everybody else will be on the table for you.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: Everybody else would be on the table, including their starting pitching.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: Like if not for this, If not for this Luis
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: Castillo trade, I think George Kirby for Mason Miller would
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: have been a really interesting one to talk about. It
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 8: would have been a very fascinating one to talk about.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: But it's not one you can do now because you
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: just don't have the starting pitching depth.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, day, if I'll let you wrap it up,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Chris is going to stick around for a while, but
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I'll let you wrap it up with this the if
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: this is it, if moving Castile and picking up Taylor Ward,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: if this ends up being it, thoughts.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: It's a step backwards and a step forwards there overall,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 9: and I think it's it's a little bit different because
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 9: you traded from a position the the player you traded
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 9: was from a position of redundancy for starting pitching, and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 9: the player that you acquired was at a position of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 9: need in right field, corner outfielder. From an overall talent perspective,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: it's it's kind of a wash for me. Taylor Ward
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: and Luis Castillo this year it's spinning distance of approximations
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 9: of each other. But it just be disappointing.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: This is another year where I feel like and her
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 9: fans are getting to the deadline and you guys have
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 9: been right. You guys have pushed back on me.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: The last couple of years.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 9: This front office really has stepped up and made some
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: really great acquisitions at the trade deadline, and it's a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 9: shame that their off seasons continue to put us in
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 9: the position where we have to basically come here at
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 9: every trade deadline and say they need to make four
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: or five great acquisitions in order to build a decent roster,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: and the fact that this team that they fell so
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: short this past offseason, along with their manager, that they're
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 9: now in a situation where you can't super get upset
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 9: if they don't go and add four or five more
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 9: guys because they haven't played like it. So it's just
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: a bummer, man. It's it's kind of in line with
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: the whole season.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: If this is all that it is.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 9: It's just kind of a shuffling of deck chairs where
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 9: the deck chairs are in on formation. That makes a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 9: little bit more sense now for everybody to be able
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 9: to see and talk to each other while they have dinner.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 9: But I don't know, it's just kind of a big
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 9: wet for me.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I know, Jerry's sitting in his office going, I heard
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: what Nathan Bishop just said. Wait tell I do Wait,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Telly sees what I do in the next twenty five minutes.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Uh it's or an hour and twenty minutes or whatever.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: That's what he's gonna say. All right, go sell a house.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: All right, go sell sir, I will do so all right,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: that's Nathan Bishop. We're gonna keep Chris around. We got
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: a lot to get to. That's Nathan Bishop Christmas stick
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: around Trade Deadline Day. We're at Seahawks training camp, Virginia
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Mason Athletic Center. They're on the field. I can't really
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: tell you what they're doing because it's no fans here
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: and we're kind of restricted. But oh boy, man, what
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: happened a minute ago? Wow?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: Wow?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks Ian, Wow. I wish I could tell you. Oo man, Yeah, incredible. Actually,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: it's very quiet. Nothing has happened. We're doing some special
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: teams drill a moment ago, and they've broken off into
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: team positions. Okay, we'll take a break, come back in
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: the two o'clock hour, just to tease ahead. Two o'clock hour, Chris,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get into the Trek Schoople thing. You know,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: it's the worst thing ever for baseball. Blah blah blah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. We'll do that in the two o'clock hour.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: We come back, we'll wrap up what the mirrors have done,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: what they could do. Trade Deadline Day, Major Leage Baseball
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: nine three point three k DFM.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Ferness at the Virginia Mason Athletics
• 1:17:06
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  Speaker 2: All right, wrapping up our number two and trade deadline.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: We're an hour and nine minutes away until the Major
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: League Baseball trade deadline for twenty twenty six comes and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: goes real quick. To wrap up this our Chris Anders
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: telling me in the break Mets taking on some Weavers
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: contract money. Is that right? Andrews? Yes, that is the case.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: So that was made it even more of a Mariners
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: could have done this sort of situation for me.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: That was one that that was one people want to
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: see happen here, right Chris.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely. Andrews and I did a trade program
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: or a trade preview, and it's funny. We talked a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: lot about Taylor Ward, who they end up getting, and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: we talked a lot about Luke Weaver, and it just
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 8: seemed like such a natural fit. Now, I'll give Pittsburgh credit.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 8: They gave up a really good prospect, and the Mariner
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: comp to that, like Nick Becker, would be the most
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: natural one. And Stiffer is more advanced and has been
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: better in the miners than a Nick Becker has. So
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: you're talking about moving one of those top seven guys,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 8: which is a borderline top one hundred prospect for a reliever,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 8: and there's a little bit of risk there, But I
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 8: certainly would have done it just because I think Luke
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 8: Weaver not only helps you a lot this year, he'd
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: be a great addition for your bullpen next year as well.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: That would allow you to play around with some of
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: the relievers that you have as well. So yeah, it
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 8: would have been something I did. But I kind of
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: understand too that maybe moving the Farmelos, the Celestins, those
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: guys would be a tough move to to digest for
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: those guys as well.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: You listen, you do this for a living rotal world
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: and everything else that you do out there. You talk
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: to scouts. You understand this world more than any of
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: us do. Are the Mariners more reluctant do you think
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: to move their top guys than other teams?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I think they are. I think that they
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 8: are one of the more prospect huggy teams. Now, look
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 8: they've and look the other thing here is too. Nathan
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 8: brought this up last week, like, yes, they have been
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: willing to go get that move in twenty twenty four
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: and twenty twenty five. In the deadline right. The Randi
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 8: Rose Arena trade fell in their laps because Randia Rose
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: Arena was playing terribly before that trade. The Arizona thing
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: fell in their laps because the Mariners had needs at
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 8: first base and third base and none of the other
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 8: contenders did, so it fell in their laps in that
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: way too. So while I give them credit for doing
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 8: that move, you can't just completely ignore that circumstances broke
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: exactly their way in those situations as well. The Mariners
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 8: have shown the willingness to get things done, though, I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: will say that, but you're not gonna be moving those
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: top guys like unless you are getting the elite, elite players.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: And I don't think the Mariners consider Mason Miller one
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: of those guys. And I don't think they consider Tariq
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 8: Schooble as a rental one of those guys. I just
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: feel like they maybe are a little too precious with
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: keeping the timeline and keeping these prospects in play.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: I love the term that was a prospect, Huggy. That's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: that's a good one. Yeah, I think about that from
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: this perspective, and that's why I asked you, you know what,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Edo had a great line Andrews. Remember this when we
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: were talking a couple of months ago. The it was
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: not as good as leave your plums on the table.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: It was damn close to that, but it was Edo
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: was talking about on the table mentality, Thank you Edze,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: long live you. Uh he. But he brought up with
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: in hockey the time to like, you know your prospects
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: better than anybody else. Sure, and sometimes they got to
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: move them before it's too late. I think they did
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: that with Harry Ford. I think that I might. I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: could be wrong, but I think they did that with
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Harry Ford, right, with for for Aer right, so I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: can like all these are the top guys we've been
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: talking about. Selston like these guys, not just the two pitchers.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I understand why they're holding on to those guys, right,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: I do understand that, But in your mind they are
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit too attached to some of these guys.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: I think so, just because of what's available. I know
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 8: why I say golden opportunity way too much, But there
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: is such a golden opportunity here in the American League
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 8: where the best team might be the Tampa Bay Rays.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: And are you kidding me that you can't go out
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 8: and usurp the Tampa Bay Rays, and you know, you
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 8: haven't seen the real buyers in the American League outside
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: of the Boston Red Sox, who, even with the moves
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: they've made, are still a very flawed baseball team. I
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: think that it's a mistake to not take advantage of
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 8: these windows because these windows can shut real quick. It's
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: like being on like a yacht where it's nice and
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 8: stuff and you have the window open and you think
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 8: it's gonna be great, but bad weather can come real
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: quick and you got to close that window real quick.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 8: Look at the Baltimore Orioles. They look like a team.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: They were gonna be the contender forever. Now they're selling everybody. Yeah,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 8: it's very easy to become Baltimore, even if you do
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: everything right. Baseball is such a precarious sport that everything
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: can change that quick. So you better take advantage of it,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: and you better win now, and you better do it
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: for my ninety six goddamn year old grandmother too.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Well. And you listen, and we brought up we gotta
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: get a break in here, I know, Anders and I
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: brought that up though with Baltimore, like you don't know
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: when that thing's gonna close. Like if I would have
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: told you three years ago that the Orioles are selling
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: off in twenty twenty six, you're like, what are you
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: talking about? Right?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about here? And that's what they're
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: doing right now. All right, we'll take you a break.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: We come back, Chris, And why you do me a
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: quick favor glance around American League. I don't care about
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: the National League, American League. Who's helped themselves so far?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Where should we be concerned? We'll do that with an
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: hour left to go before the trade deadline. You got
• 1:22:58
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• 1:23:30
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• 1:23:31
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  Speaker 2: Did they have enough pants for him? No, they do not,
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• 1:23:45
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• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: and move on. So we should do with the Apple
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Cup to be honest with you, seriously, like why, like,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: what are we doing here? We're not gonna play basketball anymore?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: What are we doing?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Sounders lose to Portland for the sixth straight loss, most
• 1:24:04
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• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: did you see anybody see Jackson's post before the game
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram?
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  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: What was it? It was a stand up at Providence Park.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: That's what's called right Providence Park? Yes, yeah, he goes,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: I'm coming at you from the worst place on planet Earth.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: He leans into it. Man, good for d he leaned
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: so far into it. I was loving it. Then I'm
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: rooting hard. And then it became evidence that second half
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: went that we were it was Yeah, the the COVID
• 1:24:39
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• 1:24:51
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  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you I was joking earlier about you
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: know what was going on here at training camp with
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: a little fake teas to everybody. But you know what
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you in the last two hours, there
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: is absolutely no doubt that the smoke from wherever eastern
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Washington to Spokane fires up north of the border is real.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Like when I got here today, we have blue skies
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: and now it's just a haze, absolute haze over this.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: It's our state is in a really really bad situation,
• 1:25:55
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• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Spokane County, a lot of friends and family over there
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: for us and our family and so far when's okay,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: But that's not the case for everybody. It's been it's
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: been really bad over there, uh, east of the mountains,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: and so we knew this was going to be a
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: bad year with the lack of snowfall and everything else,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: and it's proven to be that and then some. So
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: hopefully they can get things under control in the near future,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: but not too promising over there. So all right, let's uh,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: let's move into our number three. With the trade deadline
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: now fifty three minutes and forty five seconds away. As
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Chris pointed out earlier, there could be stuff that will
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: happen after three o'clock, but soft he'll be on the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: air at that point in time. So let me to god,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: oh he will, because we'll get trade for somebody that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: none of nobody's heard of except for you, and so
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: we'll need to get you on the air before we
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: get to the Mariners. Let's have this let's have the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Trek Schooble conversation, Chris, Let's do that. I found it
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: interesting that, you know, there seems to be two sides
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: of this in the baseball world. There's those that are
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: just sideways at the Dodgers. What are we doing? Baseball's broken?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Screw the Dodgers, and and then there's the other side
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: that says, well, I mean other teams could have gone
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: after him as well. I don't know how realistic that
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: part of it is, because you're not gonna rent him
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: if you had given up a haul. The Dodgers, by
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: all accounts, I think, have a good farm system. You
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: can tell me yes, orm knowing that regard. But okay,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: so they're a good organization. Yes, they spend more money
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: than anybody, but they're also a good organization. They're not
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Gold They're not the Vegas Gold Nights.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Vegas doesn't develop players like they just don't, you know,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: But the Dodgers do and then they go out and bye, guys.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: I laugh when I hear the well, this will be it,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: this is this is why we're gonna have a salary
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: cap in baseball and all this will be the tipping point.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like the tipping point game years ago. If it
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: ever happens, which is still I'm highly doubtful that it
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: ever will. But Chris who is to blame here for
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: the rich getting richer and schooble?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: So I totally understand the argument that this is boring,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 8: you know what, I mean to see one team getting
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 8: all of these players. But I think what this points
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 8: out more so is not the blame for the Dodgers
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: going and making themselves better. Shame on the Detroit Tigers
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 8: for giving up when they're right in the middle of this,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 8: Like they are just as close as to Seattle Mariners
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: to a playoff spot as the Detroit Tigers. Like it
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: is that I think they're a half game back. This
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: will be a big series to determine some wild Card
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: standing stuff. And shame on the other teams who decided
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 8: that they would prospect Huggy and that they would be
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 8: willing to not willing to improve their system to go
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 8: get in my personal opinion, the best pitcher in baseball,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: and if it's not him, he's in the top three
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: at the very worst. And what it does is the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 8: reason why it's points out it's bad for baseball is.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 8: It amplifies just how many teams truly aren't that concerned
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: about winning and not concerned about hanging that pennant. That's
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 8: what it points out to me. And by the way,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: just real quick on the salary cap thing, it's never
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 8: going to happen, like never, It's a zero point zero
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 8: zero percent chance. The only time salary caps happen is
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: if you break unions, and the MLB union is still
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 8: one of the strongest in baseball, or if you open
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 8: your books and are willing to do exact revenue sharing
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: and not exact per se but like fifty two, forty eight,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 8: fifty three forty seven that stuff. Major League Baseball is
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 8: never going to open their books like that. It would
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: open up a can of worms that would feed countries.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: And I'm sorry you have to eat worms to do it,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 8: but it would feed countries. It's bad for baseball because
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: other teams should have been trying here. The Seattle Mariners
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: should have been trying to get to rescooble the Boston
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 8: Red Sox. It's the whole bunch of teams and perennial
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 8: contenders should have been trying to get this guy. Shame
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: on those teams for not trying more so than shame
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: on the Dodgers for actually giving it.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, I agree with you, Andrew. I'll
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: let you jump in here in a second, but I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: I I agree with you. Here's my thought. The first
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: of all, with the Dodgers, are they supposed to not try?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Like that's the other thing, Like I I like people
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: are mad at them, Like, well, why are you pissed
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: at them?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Are they supposed to just say, ah, we're good, right,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: We're good, We're gonna We're just gonna stamp pat No, man, listen,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: they have the financial wherewithal to be aggressive. They have
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: the the equity, the everything behind the Dodger brand to
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: do this. They know they can go out and resign
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: the guy. You know, there is tampering that took place.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: They talked to his agent before they made a trader.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Is he gonna resign? Will be yes, of course it is,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, all those things. And they went for it.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Good for them. You know, let's use the peak Caroline
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: and from the day you know, we're going for it. Yeah,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: we're just gonna go for it here, We're going for it. Good. Good,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: that's that's not the Dodgers problem. And we could argue
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: whether or not it's major League Baseball's problem, but you
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: just said it, and I agree with you to think
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: that this is gonna be the tipping point. Oh now
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a salary cap. Like stop it, like
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: like we you know, even arguing about the salary cap
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: to me feels like a waste of time. Sometimes it's
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: just it just is. I mean, there's there's there's pros
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: and cons for it, for sure, and if it was
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: somewhat realistic, I think the argument or the debate and
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: the conversation would be a lot more relevant and pertinent.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: And we will have that in November December. You know,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: well we're gonna have it. But I'm with you. It's
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: a strong players it's a weird players union too. It's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: very top heavy. It's really top heavy. The guys that matter,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: they are keeping the guys that don't matter down in
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: terms of salaries and free agency and things like that.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've if I'm a player, I'm more worried about, like, hey,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: can we have shorter avenues and pass the free agency? Right?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Like that's got to be like it, it's ridiculous, Like
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: no sport has that for your first round picking. In
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: your first round picking football, you may have to wait
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: five years, and that's if they exercise the option on
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: a year five. But you're more likely we're gonna get
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: a new contract at four. Everybody else is getting a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: new contract at four NHL entry level contracts three. I mean,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: you go through the list, these guys are these guys
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: are hooped and the majority of the league makes less
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: than a million dollars, right, I mean it's it's not
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: that that's not but I mean there's more guys that
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: are in the below that than there are above you know,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: fifty or whatever the hell the number is these days.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: But I don't I don't blame the Dodgers at all.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: I do blame other teams for not getting aggressive. I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: blame the Tigers. We talked about this there. They were
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: a playoff team last year and they could be a
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: playoff team this year. Why don't you get why? You know,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: maybe he just refused to resign there, although listening to
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: his comments, I don't know if that was really.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 9: The case, right, They weren't willing to meet his demands. Well,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: real quick, this is a massive thing that people forget
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 9: about too. To say, the Detroit Tigers low ball to
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 9: reschoo Ble and arbitration is quite the understated. They offered
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 9: thirteen million dollars less than the Detroit Tigers did. The
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 9: Detroit Tigers filed at nineteen million, Schooble filed at thirty
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 9: two million.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 8: And that set some bad blood there. And I don't
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 8: blame him one bit because nineteen million dollars for a
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 8: back to back side Young Award winner in today's day
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 8: and age is such a low ball offer. It was
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 8: a pathetic offer, and it set such bad blood, and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: it made the chances of resigning school ball so much less.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can forget about that in this No,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: that's a good point, all right, Andrews. You want to
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: jump in for it, yeah, I mean really quick.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: The Yankees are acquiring Elliot Ramos, which was one of
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: the bats that the Mariners were reportedly going after as well,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: but it seems like they kind of filled that gap
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: with Taylor Ward.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to mention that.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: So yeah, But in terms of the Scooball situation, Look,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: I'm upset because of where the sport is at, and
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: I don't care really whose fault it is at this point, right,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: And it's just the rich get richer. And we've seen
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: this in other sports where you know a lot of
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: players have power. We talked about it with hockey Ian
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: that everyone wants to go to Vegas or Florida or
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: you know a lot of the teams that are you know,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: ended up winning recently. But it's multiple different teams at
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: this point, right, there's still some sort of like, okay,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: there's at least a competition for the top three or
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: four or five teams in the sport. There isn't that
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: with the Dodgers. Right now, everyone's consensus best team in
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: the league is the Los Angeles Dodgers, and it has
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: been that way for at least probably four years now,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: and they've shown that with their back to back World
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: Series championships and now adding even more to that at
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: this point, and yes, you could easily say the Mariners
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: could go out and match what the Tigers got from
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: LA to get trek scouble but knowing that he's not
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: going to resign here, knowing this is a whole other
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: situation that you don't want to offer what trek scuoble
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: wants in free agency.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: That's gonna deter.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: Almost every other team except the team that, hey, wait
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: for it, that's probably where he's gonna sign in free agency.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: So that really like, yes, you can look at specifically
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: what they got, but no other team's willing really to
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: do that for a couple months. And Chris talked about
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: this in the break. Would you have been willing to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: give up a certain prospect or to just for two
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: months of trek scouble? I probably would, But I also
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily blame the Mariners for knowing that you're not
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: going to get him for more than two months and
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: giving up an Emerson Hancock and a you know, a
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: Felon in Celizon or something like that.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do this, Anderson Hurst, Chris Scofferty for
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: us with you. It's Seahawks training campf Reginia Mason Athletics Center. Chris.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: So far, with forty four minutes left to go before
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: the deadline, who in the American League has done the
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: most to help themselves?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: It's a really good question, because I don't think anyone's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 8: gotten all that much better. Houston's gotten better, and I've
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 8: been told that they're going to get a pitcher before
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 8: this deadline as well. The Red Sox getting Adley Ruschman.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 8: I know they give up a lot for him, but
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 8: that is a massive upgrade to what they have there.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 8: Tampa Bay just made a really nice trade for a reliever.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 8: I think the Mariner should have been after and I
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 8: got to be honest, it's a little bit of captain
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 8: hindsight and getting Tyler Wells someone I didn't think about,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: but that's a nice pickup for him. But nobody's really
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: leaped off the table here. The White Sox getting or
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 8: excuse me, the White Sox have gotten a smidge and better,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: the Guardians getting Joe Adele. It's a lot of treading
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: water outside of I think that Red Sox move. Unless
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: I'm really missing one. Toronto has both bought and sold,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 8: although I've been told that they're already trying to trade
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 8: Jose Soriano after getting him today, so that could be
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 8: a Rashid Wallace Atlanta.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 9: Hawk situation in there.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: Wow, it's been a lot of tread water. It's been
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 8: a lot of trading water, and it's it's That's the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: good news for the Mariners is that nobody has really
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: made that leap. The bad news is the Mariners haven't
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: made that leap either, So for.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: In this division, Houston, though, has improved a little bit.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: And if if they had a picture listen pitching the issue, right, Like,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: if they if they had a starting picture, this quality
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: starting pitcher, that's gonna that helps them a lot, right,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: That's that's like a big need for them right now.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: The Rangers have done nothing right.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 8: No, well, the closest thing they've done is apparently tried
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 8: to trade Jake de Gram, and Jake de Gram has
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: invoked his no trade clause. There's been talk about them
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: listening on Corey Seeger, There's been talk on them listening
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 8: on Nathan e Ovaldi. It doesn't sound like their buyers,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 8: and that's pretty crazy for the position that they're in
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 8: right now. And obviously Oakland and Los Angeles are just
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: so far out of this thing that they are just
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 8: completely irrelevant at this point. But yeah, it's really just
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 8: the Astros making the var show move and they will
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 8: get another starting pitcher, I'm sure in the next forty
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: three minutes or so, or a reliever or something of
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: that ilk. But again, a lot of treading water.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: Texas feels like the team that really was affected by
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: that sweep by the Houston right, Like they were really
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: like they were really affected by that. They were really
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: that that that really kind of got And it's funny
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: because they're still slightly ahead of the Mariners, you know,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: like if you're looking through there.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't get that.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: I don't get that.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 8: It's disappointing because you know, some of this, you know what,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 8: this kind of reminds me of a little bit. Although
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: they have a worse record. Remember when the Mariners got
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 8: off to like a thirteen and one start and they
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 8: were like twenty games above five hundred, and they still decided, boy,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 8: this is a lot of smoke and merrors, and we
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 8: decided to make some moves or at least not get better. Yeah,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 8: maybe Texas is just being a little too bit there.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 8: I hate doing that though, in a year like this
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 8: when there is no clear cut favorite, because Texas has
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: enough good players that they could do something. And I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 8: really like their coaching staff too. I think they don't
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 8: get nearly enough credit for the job that they have done.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 8: And they could call up a prospect like Sebastian Wolcott,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 8: assuming he's healthy. He just got placed on the il,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 8: but one of the most talented prospects in baseball, and
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 8: he could be a bit of a difference maker for him,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 8: similar to what Evan Carter did for them in twenty
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 8: twenty three. So I'm happy that Texas isn't trying to
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 8: get better because it helps the Mariners a lot. Yeah,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 8: but just John cbe baseball fan, it's pretty disappointing to
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 8: see a team make a move like that.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, the difference is you're kind of
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: abuted to it. Yeah, you alluded to it. The difference
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: is this, like if you're Seattle or Texas. The difference
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: between this and when they were the smoking mirrors above
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: twenty games about five hundred year you were the midst
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: of the heyday for Houston, right like that, like like
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: like that was the mid stuff. I'm not mistaken that
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: when you're referencing that time frame, Houston was a wagon
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: like you like that was. That's not the case this
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: year in the American League and certainly not in the
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: American League West. The pillow fight that is this division.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: So that is what's kind of strange in that right
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: in that regard that you wouldn't go down that road
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: as well. I you know, it's an interesting dynamic because Seattle,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: I think still in the back of their mind, maybe
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: it's wishful thinking, maybe it's something else. I think their way.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: I think they just think that, like Jerry said, cal
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Julio Naylor get going. Maybe that maybe that's your additions,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: and that's not what a fan wants to hear. But
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: in this particular year, that might be the most realistic
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: thing to improve your team in terms of offense, is
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: hoping that happens. It's Cal And by the way, two
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: home runs for Cal in with the last seven days,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: but he's got three hits. Two of those were home runs.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: That's all he's got. Like like, and I'm not one,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: I don't really care about warning track power justin smoke.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: So don't don't come at me with the of threehundred
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: ninety nine ball.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 7: No, I get it.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: I will say too, it's interesting that those homers have
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 8: come from the right side. I believe the last three
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 8: have come. And I wonder if he's bothered with that
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 8: left handed swing right now, if that that's one of
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 8: the reasons why we're seeing him more capable of driving
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 8: the ball from the right side than the left side.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 8: Have no evidence of that, but it is pretty interesting
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 8: that a guy who has been notoriously better from the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 8: left side, he did a very nice job from the
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: right side last year, but was an absolute wagon from
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 8: the left. He's interesting to see him have more success
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 8: from that right side.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: That is that is that makes a ton of sense.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: All right, fourtnite four to five one is it's cobadatch
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: text line. You got questions, we'll you got comments, you
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: got complaints, will answer those will come back. We'll let
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: Chris keep scouring the wire out there and see if
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: anything's happening that's of relevance that we need to discuss.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll do something in the break. Maybe they'll trade somebody,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: maybe they'll acquire somebody. You don't know, we'll find out.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: We'll do that when we come back. Nin three point
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  Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Dan Wilson here, you know analytics, you know
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: Britill He told me, I say, you know one hundred
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: and seventy seven times during a press conference. You know,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: I fought hard to get those numbers up, you know,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: big side for the organization. Guys are fighting hard, you know,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: getting Taylor Ward in here, you know, you know I'm
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: excited to fight hard and pinch hit him for Rob Refsneider,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: you know, not playing much like I did Garber for
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: Roebliss the other night.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Made no sense, you know, but that's what I do.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: I don't make sense. You know, We'll continue to fight hard. Thanks, guys, Right,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: tough one tonight, tough one tonight, tough one tonight. All right,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: you got one more fire away? Yeah, wellmore.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 10: You could trade for Barry Bonds or Mickey Mannle or
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 10: Prime Griffy. But if the rest of this team isn't hitting,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 10: If the people that we're gonna be having at the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 10: majority of the top of our lineup aren't hitting, nothing's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 10: gonna happen.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 8: You know why, I agree with that. One of those
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 8: guys is dead, and two of them haven't played baseball
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 8: in a really long time. So I agree that if
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 8: you traded for those guys, it would be it would
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 8: be a problem.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: Griffy'd be taking a nap in the clubhouse, wouldn't he.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 8: Know, Yeah, taking some photos, you know, just having a.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: Really good time private of Montana, you know, doing this
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: thing whatever. Oh my gosh, it's so good. So hope, Yeah,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Why is he not doing the home run
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: the alumni home run derby?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 8: Oh they can't afford that, man, like either, they just
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 8: simply can't. He'll probably be a surprise edition or something
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: like that. And are they only not televising that thing?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 8: By the way, is that really going to happen?
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: Wait? Oh they're not. No, it's only an in person event.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: What is it Saturday? Or when is it Saturday? It's
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: post game Saturday, right, I believe so, yes, at least
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: put it on YouTube or something. Come on, you haven't
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: you have your own little channel. Why don't you just
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: stay on the air.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 8: You have your own channel, and I can you can
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: watch tribute to the nineteen forties firework Night and whenever
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 8: you're doing that. But I can't watch that something you
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: charge money for. Like, I get it being a special
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 8: event for people who are there, but I think that
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 8: game the game to not give people a chance to
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 8: watch it.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I need to I don't know
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: if I need to watch it. To be honest with you,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: I we're a fair I mean, I'm not trying to
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: be that guy, but I mean, I don't know if
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: I need to watch a guy that never hit in
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: the big leagues and Ryan Roland Smith and each Rod
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: who still thinks he can hit. Sure, still thinks he's
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: on the team. Ian, but I'm gonna I'm gonna guess Buck,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: you'll run into one or two. Yeah, right, And I
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: don't know who else. Some other guys in it that
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of. It is like the bullpen catcher
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: or something like that. But I can't.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 8: I have to admit I haven't looked at the roster,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: but I will say I see enough people talking about
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 8: it that I think it would be the nice thing
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: to get, yeah, to have it on da oh yeah
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 8: yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Sure. Uh.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: Anything happened in the break by the way, Griffin Foster
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: to the Guardians.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 8: Chris Foster, Griffin to the Guardians. That's interesting.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 8: Marcelo Meyer traded from who was once one of the
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 8: very best prospects in baseball for Eric Miller. So the
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 8: Red Sox do get better in their bullpen as well,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 8: but it's been been quiet. I think the next twenty
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: minutes or so we're about to see a ton of activity,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 8: just based on how these things.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Been pretty dead deadline. I'm not gonna lie. It doesn't
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: sound like they're moving Randy. Should they have moved Randy now?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 8: I don't think so. It would have made a little
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 8: bit of sense if you would have been out of
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 8: this In fact, it would have made a lot of
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 8: sense if you were out of this thing, or if
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 8: you had more guys who were consistently hitting. I think
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 8: trading him after he basically with the help of Royce Lewis,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 8: won you a baseball game on Saturday that you had
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 8: to win, trading him would have been a really bad look. Now,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 8: this is a team that has made trades when it's
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 8: a really bad look.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 8: The Kendle Graveman trade was a terrible look. The Paul
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 8: Seawall trade at the time, even though it is paid off,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 8: for sure, was a bad look. The Castillo trade is
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 8: not the greatest look either. But trading Randy or Rose
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 8: Arena after he did that on Saturday, like literally saved
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 8: your seasons. Probably too strong, but it was teetering. It
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 8: was definitely teetering. I think it would have been a
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 8: bad look.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: To move him.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: We'll read this text here four nine four five one
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: that it says as falls. If you don't think baseball
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: needs a salary cap, you're an idiot. Baseball is so
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: broken you can't have a valid champion if everyone isn't
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: playing with the same budget.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 8: Just to look at the I know the Dodgers have
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 8: won the last two to break my argument a little bit,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: but look at how many teams have won championships. Look
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 8: at the Mets, who are an absolute mess, who have
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 8: spent a bunch of money, who are spending money doesn't
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 8: guarantee anything. Look at how good the Rains are and
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 8: they don't have a high payrolls. It's asinine to think
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 8: that the Dodgers are just so loaded that nobody else
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 8: can win.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: They have an.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 8: Advantage, But ian don't the Seahawks have an advantage over
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 8: the Jacksonville Jaguars, And don't be like the Los Angeles
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: Lakers have a benefit over the Charlotte Bobcats or whatever
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 8: the hell they're called right now, Like there are always
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 8: advantages in sports, there's always going to be The Yankees
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 8: and Dodgers are going to have advantages over everyone, whether
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 8: it's a salary cap or not. This idea that you
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 8: have to have one to create a competitive link is
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 8: nonsense and it's not based on anything. It is short
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 8: sample size at best that you can say that because
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 8: look at the New York Yankees. They haven't won a
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 8: World Series in eighteen years and have had some of
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 8: the highest payrolls in baseball.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: God forbid, they haven't won a World Series in eighteen years.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: Man alive.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 8: But we are the exception. And until we move the
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 8: stadium from the indigenous burial ground, we're gonna have to
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 8: pay for what's happened.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent true. But but like we've talked about,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. It's it's you know the I've been
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: very consistent with this. I'm gonna stay consistent. I'd like
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: to see it for this reason. It gives us a
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: basement as well, give us a four. Yes, And we've
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: gone through this before. We've done this exercise a number
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: of times. Over half of the league right now wouldn't
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: reach what the proposed floor would be, and that includes
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: the baseball team here, by the way. So I'd like
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: to see that because then if you have to spend
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: at least X amount of money and you're the pirates
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: of the whoever, the Marlins, the Rays, et cetera, and
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: you got to raise it up a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: I think that gives you a little bit a hole.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: But you're right. Everyone's got advantages for different reasons, right.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: And the Chicago Bulls were probably the greatest example. When
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: Michael left and Scotty left and they broke up the dynasty,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: right and Phil Jackson was out and all those things,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: everyone said, Oh, man, wait till I mean they're gonna
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: have money to spend. The Chicago Bulls, they're you know,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: media market for you know, in the country, right, all
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: those they haven't been good since. No, And you would
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: think inherently Chicago is a place, Yeah, man, I'll go there, right,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: big market, big city, cool, cool city, great city. Actually
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: all those things. You never know what's gonna why, why
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: people are going to go different places. And it wasn't
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: that long ago. The Dodgers weren't this team either, right.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 8: No, No, And I think it's also worth pointing out
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: Aaron Judge was a massive free agent who did not
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 8: sign with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Juan Soto was the
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 8: biggest bat to hit the free agent market in probably
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: twenty years, not counting O Tawny because he was the
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 8: two way guy, he didn't sign with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 8: There are still going to be teams that are willing
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 8: to spend big bucks. The Dodgers don't get everybody. They
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 8: have two of the top twelve contracts in baseball right now,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 8: two two of the top twelve contracts in baseball. They
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 8: also have a bunch of contracts after that that give
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 8: them a huge advantage. There's no question about it. But
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: there's just this idea that teams can't spend or teams
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 8: won't spend. It's just the Dodgers. It's cyclical too, because
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 8: we were just talking about with this with the Mets
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 8: five years ago, and we were talking about this with
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 8: the Yankees forever. It's cyclical. This too shall pass.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up, Chris, with you with this before
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure a panic Dave Softy Maller calls you later
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: if something happens, and I appreciate you spend an extra
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: time with us today, Chris Crawford mile, why make sure
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• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: I watched on after the Trade the other night, seventeen
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: minutes of me agreeing with you, which doesn't always happen.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: All Right, we've got twenty minutes left to go. Anything
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: they can do that would kind of get you repped
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: up and say, Okay, it's been a really good trade
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: deadline for Seattle.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 8: I mean, if they went out and got a CJ. Abrams,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 8: or if they went out and got honestly, if they
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 8: got Mason Miller, like assuming they're not moving Katie Anderson
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 8: and that type of thing, yeah, that would kind of
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 8: change my tune. But I will say this, even if
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 8: you go get Mason Miller and CJ. Abrams, there are
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 8: still flaws on this roster that make me wonder if
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 8: they really are World Series contenders. Like, there's nothing that's
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 8: going to make me I will get that temporary high,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 8: you know, and think that they have a better chance
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 8: of getting to the dance. But there's nothing that they
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 8: can really do today that is going to make me
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 8: think this is fixed. My demands of them breaching the
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 8: World Series are going to be met, because I just
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 8: think there are so many flaws that you could not fix.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: In one deadline. You may have to revisit everything tomorrow.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: Once the dust settles, we'll see how it works out.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: If there's nothing more than that's fine, but if not,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: we'll check in next Monday, one way or the other.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: And it's a Mullywap Monday, an extra session with Chris Crawford.
• 1:52:12
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• 1:52:20
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• 1:52:22
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• 1:52:26
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• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: old Husky Hawks back of the day. Great stuff, Chris,
• 1:52:31
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• 1:52:34
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• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: right now. We'll take a break. Come back. Dave Softy
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Mahler is here while a little cross talk and he'll
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: keep an eye on what's going on as well as
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: far as the trade deadline is concerned. We're about eighteen
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: and a half minutes away until the trade deadline from
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Ajor League Baseball hits More to come nine three point
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: three k DFM say, and we didn't get a chance
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: to break down the big win by the miss Budweiser
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: at the hydroplane races yesterday.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 7: But you know what, I gotta be honest with you,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 7: did the miss Budweiser really win.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think the miss Budweiser has been in I
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: don't even been going for years.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 7: You don't even know who won. I mean you, you
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 7: literally could have been breaking news to me right here.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 7: I think it's great for people to like it, and
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 7: I don't want it to go away, Like I don't
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 7: need to be into everything we have in the city.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 7: I think it's great that we have a women's basketball team.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 7: It's great that we have a women's soccer team. It's
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 7: great that we have Seafair. These are things that I'll
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 7: be honest with you, I don't care about, but it's
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 7: great that we have them. Well phenomenal that we have
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 7: because people do care.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: People do care. People are losing their mind on Saturday
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: because the Blue Angels didn't go up and all the
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: blood the typical blade, Well, it's somebody yelled and they
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: didn't want the noise and sold Seafair caved it was windy, like, guys,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: come on, like, give your head a shake a little bit.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 7: Well, I think I think what happened is people looked
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 7: outside and they saw the cloud starting to clear and said,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 7: what are you talking about?
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: Well, it was the wind.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 7: It wasn't the cloud cover.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: It was a wind with thirty thousand feet good year.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think you could tell what it is down
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: here anyway. How were doing trade deadline day? How do
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: you trade online? Day? Buddy?
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 7: How you doing good? I'm excited, man. We got eleven
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 7: minutes left to go on the clock. It seems like
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 7: every year on Major League Baseball trade deadline Day we
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 7: end up in the same spot right here, right here,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: yes training, yes, yes, last year with Suarez and Nayler
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 7: and turd Ferguson, all those guys. So I think the
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: Luis Castillo trade we were also here. That was a
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 7: few days before the deadline.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: Though, wasn't the which trade was the first one? Last year?
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: Was Nagler trade was first one? Suarez I think was
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: actually on deadline day? Is that right, Andrews?
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe the day but the night before because the Marinas
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: are playing that night. Yeah, and it broke while they
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: were in Sacramento.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: You know that this is you know how your mind
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: just remembers weird things, right, because you're bringing up being
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: here at Seahawks. Now, I remember sitting here outside. Actually
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: it was like a morning practice and it was the
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: year that they again the year they wouldn't trade Jared Washburn, right,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: never like ah and like people were losing their mind,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, they got it, they wouldn't trade
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: Jared Washburn. Now teams are just dealing guys left, right
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: and sideways to get out from caps and right and
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: and salaries and everything else. But yeah, we're always here.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: It feels like on Trademine's d.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 7: Well, that's exciting, right. I mean, uh, luckily, I think
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 7: they got a little better. I don't think they got
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: significantly better, but they got a little better. You know,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 7: if all of these moves that they're making right with
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 7: Domingas and and Ward, they all kind of make sense
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 7: if everybody else picks up their game at the same time, right, Like,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 7: if cal Rowley continues to do what cal Rowley's doing,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 7: he's not if.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: You looked at his week, he had had three hits
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: in the last week. That's it.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 7: That's outstanding, right, that is incredible.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Three hits.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 7: I consense the sarcasm from your mouth.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: Hit.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: Well, we need more than that. He hit one twenty
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 7: We need more than that from the big dumper.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: PW.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 7: We need more, you were home, We need more from
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: the big dumper. Hey, look, we've seen flashes, right. The
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 7: light bulb is this is the the light bulb wants
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 7: to turn on badly with cal Rowley. We just have
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 7: to find a way to flip the switch and keep
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 7: it on, you know. Josh Naylor is he's like, uh,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 7: what was the name of the character that Jonah Hill
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 7: played in Moneyball? The assistant and whatever? He gets on base,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 7: he gets on base, he gets on base, but he
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 7: hasn't hit a home run for almost two months.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor June first, at home, June ninth. Overall, I think,
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: so is that not wild that the guy has gotten
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: on base first? Basement that you paid a bunch of
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: money to.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 7: How many games in a run?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: Has he gotten on base?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Twenty five? Whatever? It is something like that.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and not one, not one of those games he
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 7: hit a bomb. It's unbelievable.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: And that's the whole problem is like, Okay, well you
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: and you said he's your first baseman, right, Like, that's
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: gotta there's gonna be power numbers.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 7: It's a power number.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: And he's slapping around like eachiro, right, who can who
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: can hit a home run any time you want?
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 7: Maybe Josh Naylor should be hitting lead off for this
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 7: baseball team. Well here's a funny thing, twenty four game
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 7: hitting excuse me, on games or on base street.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: The funny thing about him hitting leadoff? Right? He steals bases?
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 7: He does.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: Tayler Ward gets on base at a higher percentage than anybody. Correct,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't steal basis, he would have the four stolen basis.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 7: He has the highest on base percentage of anybody on
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 7: the team, even higher than a Rose arena talking about
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 7: Ward now America.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 7: I saw a guy tweet me and say, well, he
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 7: also ludes the league in plate appearances. Okay, so what
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 7: he's getting on base a ton. He is literally a
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 7: machine compared to everybody else on this baseball team when
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 7: it comes to getting on base. The only guy with
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: a higher on base percentage is Donovan, but he don't
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 7: count because he's not qualified. Yeah Donovan, who you know him?
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 7: Brandon Donovan?
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: Never heard him?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, does he played here before?
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just for a little small And that's the thing
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: about the whole plate appearances conversation. I'm willing to have
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: Donovan appearances, right.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 7: No, he just broke up there for a quick second.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 7: Whatever genius comment you made, we didn't get to hit.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it was good though. All right, all right,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: we're good.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 7: Anyway you were, you were on a roll, I was.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 7: That was a hell of a comment. Nobody's gonna hear that.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 7: You were actually pretty good. Thing I wasn't on the air.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 7: We all could have gotten fired. I gave out the
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 7: boss this credit card number over the ear, and nobody
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 7: heard it. That always happens, by the way, during crosstalk.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 7: I have no idea why we just it's like the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 7: Gerbil for about five seconds, says that hell it grabs
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 7: a shot of whiskey and jumps back on it.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 4: Do we have it?
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: Do we have another one of those fine power outages?
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: There is all what happened? No power search? Everything's good here.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: It's it's all you guys.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 7: You know, I haven't been in the studio so long,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 7: or it feels like I haven't been. There is the
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 7: generator still outside?
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  Speaker 2: The office. It's gone.
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  Speaker 4: It's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, the day it left, we had a
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: power out of you. I could I kid you not.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: That is freaking power surge or something.
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  Speaker 7: Naylor's last bomb was on his last home run at
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 7: home was on June first. That's incredible, over two months ago.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 7: And his last home run overall was June twelfth against
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  Speaker 7: the Washington Nationals. That's wild man anyway. Yeah, so we'll
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  Speaker 7: talk about that. Chuck will join us at four, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: wake him up from his nap.
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  Speaker 2: He be here.
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  Speaker 7: Grey's Abel is going to be sitting in that seat
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 7: that you're sitting in probably about forty five minutes or so.
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  Speaker 7: I can't wait to tell Grey's Abel when I partied
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  Speaker 7: with his mom before the NFC Championship game last year,
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  Speaker 7: did you Oh, that's what I got a picture.
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  Speaker 2: I got a picture to.
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  Speaker 7: Show him when he gets uh when he swings by.
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  Speaker 7: There you go. I guess which one is Abel's mom?
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
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  Speaker 7: The other one is Jalen's Sundell's mom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess the one that's not worrying Jalenson.
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  Speaker 2: Dell's number is Diabels.
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  Speaker 7: You know when you're a smart guy. This pike going
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 7: a waz who You're a smart, smart dude. Are you
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 7: objected for the apple cut?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, couldn't care less, That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 7: I played golf this weekend with a couple of kops
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  Speaker 7: and they don't even know when the game is, Like,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 7: they had no idea it was. The opener was like,
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  Speaker 7: oh really, ok.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: Whatever, it's not November anymore.
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  Speaker 7: No, they moved it.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, big show coming up.
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  Speaker 7: See it for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness.
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  Speaker 8: This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,