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GASP! THERE'S BEEN A MURDER! · gasp! the pod

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Everyone else in the lesbian clubs, drinking champagne,
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having fun. These four are plotting
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something horrendous, Yeah. Gee, hey everyone, thanks for
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listening to Gasp. There's Been a Murder.
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This week's very spooky Halloween episode of GASP the
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Pod, a podcast for the gays, the girls and especially the gay
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girls. This is not a usual episode of
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guests. I have a special guest, my
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lovely girlfriend Sophia, joining us again, Sophia say.
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Hi to everyone, I'm very excited to be here.
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Happy Halloween. Yay, Thanks for coming on the
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flock. Very.
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Excited to be here. I feel like honored.
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Sophia has not been on since very early on in Season 1.
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And yesterday Sophia was like, I'm down to being a podcast.
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If you'd have me back, I'd have me.
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I'd love to be. Back on if you'd have.
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Me and I was like perfect, you should come on for this
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Halloween episode. Both me and Sophia are big true
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crime listeners podcast wise and I thought it'd be very fun
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Halloween episode for me to tell a true true Crime Story that
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Sophia does not know about and hopefully.
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I probably don't, I am a big true crime listener, but I think
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that this is probably 1 I haven't heard.
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I think so too. Well, I'll be telling a true
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Crime Story today. How this is going to work is
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Sophia doesn't know this crime and she will operate as Brit
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from the Crime Junkies if you guys are Crime Junkie listeners,
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and I will operate as your Ashley Flowers pretty much
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telling the story. Sophia gets to go what?
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And that's the plan. Love, I'm very, very excited and
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great kind of scared. Don't be scared no for the
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story, right? And it is Halloween, so This is
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why we're telling a scary spooky ooky gay gas worthy story.
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Some warnings. This, obviously because it is a
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murder, will include violence, murder, assault, graphic
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language and bad representation for the lesbian community.
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More warnings. We do not condone violence in
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any form and I try to cover the details of this case, but if I
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get anything wrong I'm so sorry. But I tried my best using real
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sources. There's been a murder.
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It is a quiet morning in Australia, Brisbane, Saturday
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the 21st of October, much like an October morning of this week.
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It is 1989 and when rowers training with by the Brisbane
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River in the southern suburb of Hill End.
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OK, it's 1989. OK, isn't that interesting.
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Also 1989, I chose it on purpose.
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Just kidding. It was around 6:15 AM when they
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observed the rowers. Something on the banks of the
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river. What was on the banks of the
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river? A body.
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Yeah, As they got closer, they recoiled in horror to see that
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it was the body of a man. The body was transported to the
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Medical Examiner's office where it was found that the man has
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stabbed in his back as well as his chest and side.
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His throat had also been slashed and his head was almost severed.
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The body was identified as 47 year old Edward Baldock and
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Edward was a Brisbane council worker and father and
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grandfather. What unravels in this case is
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now known as one of the most sinister and shocking murders in
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Australian history. Let's get into it.
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Who could have done this crime? Sophia, before we get into this
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very, very quickly updates on the podcast.
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So let's get into the investigation.
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Investigators are trying to establish the timeline leading
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up to Edward being found on the river.
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OK, They know that it's him. They know it's him.
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They have no idea what he was doing, how he got there and who
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killed him. They determined eventually that
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he had left his home by talking to his family in the suburb of
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West End at around 7:00 PM on Friday evening.
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He then got a taxi and went to the Caledonian Club where he
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spent the night drinking. He left at around 11:00 PM, but
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what happened between then and the time that he was body was
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found is a mystery as investigators are now trying to
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establish a timeline. They examined the crime scene.
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Police searched the area and found his wallet with $35.00
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cash in it, and alongside his body were his shoes and his
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clothes, neatly folded into a. Pile.
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That makes me think maybe he took it off and went swimming or
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something. Maybe.
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Perhaps inside one of his shoes, though, they found a bank card.
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OK. It belonged to a woman and that
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woman is 24 year old Tracy Wigginton.
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Tracy's credit card was in his pocket.
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Yeah, we don't know who Tracy is.
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No idea. So the police go to Tracy
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Wigginton's apartment. They find her because her card
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is now in a dead man's shoe, right?
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Doesn't look good, right? Wigginton tells the police that
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she had been down near the river but knew nothing of the murder.
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The police are fully convinced. What?
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Yes, they were the police. The police thought that this
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woman was not capable of the violence that had occurred.
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That's crazy. It is crazy.
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However, she was arrested that afternoon.
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She's denying the crime. Next, she's confessing to
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murdering Edward along with her 25 year old girlfriend Lisa
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Tachinksi and two of their friends, 24 year old Tracy Wo
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and her girlfriend, 24 year old Kim Jervis.
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What a band of lesbians. So it goes from her being
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interrogated to I was there at the river but I had nothing to
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do with it. So then me and my girlfriend and
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two of our other friends killed this guy.
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Yes, but the question is what is the motive?
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Why did she murder this man? This point people have no idea
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why she would have known him, right?
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We have no connection. Obviously she wasn't dating him,
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right? She's a lesbian.
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What the heck? So Tracy Wiginton has now
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confessed to murder, but who is she?
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Why? What was the motive and what
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really happened that night? Seriously.
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OK, let's learn about a little bit more about Tracy Wigginton
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who was born on August 4th, 1965.
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She was adopted when her mother, Rhonda Hopkins, could no longer
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cope after her first marriage broke up.
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She was left $75,000 inheritance.
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OK. She returned to live briefly
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with Rhonda Hopkins, who would later say she did not accept her
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daughter's lesbianism. Oh.
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Yeah, I think she's fine. She's a murderer.
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Right. Well, right.
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Begins and moved in with a family friend.
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Lived with her until she was 20 and the family friend described
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her as a loving girl, gifted artist and devout Catholic.
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Interesting, but she's out at this point.
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I don't know if she's out to everyone.
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OK. I don't know what was out back
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then. Sure.
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But, and I guess you can be a Catholic lesbian, sure, kind of
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hard to come by. But I'm a Catholic bisexual.
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Yeah, it happened. Cultural Catholic.
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Play about me. I didn't murder anyone.
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Not in 1982. Wiginton cut her hair short and
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began calling herself Bobby. OK, so she's a Butch.
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She had met a woman called Sunshine.
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OK. Which is a lot.
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Wiginton worked as a bouncer at a club.
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She dressed all in black, giving indie witchy vibes.
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She had a collar, which supposedly only Sunshine had a
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key for. So they're into some kinks
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again. This is a bad look for the kink
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community for sure. And at one point, Wigginton
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sought out a man to make her pregnant so that she and
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Sunshine could have a child. She did get pregnant, but then
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miscarried. Are you understanding the vibe
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of her? I'm getting it, yeah.
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Are you locked in? I'm locked.
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I'm wondering if there's any connection between Edward, the
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man who was found and Tracy wanting another baby.
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Like finding wanting to find a man to give them.
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That's a very good idea. Like maybe they cross paths
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somewhere, like in a social setting or something.
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Perhaps what actually happened that night?
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You tell me. I'm going to tell you right now,
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OK, according to Tracy. So she's pulled in police
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interview right now. We kind of have an understanding
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of Tracy. We're back into the police
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station. She starts telling the police
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everything. She tells police she is a
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vampire that fed on human blood. What?
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Are you kidding me? Sorry.
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I shouldn't laugh, but it's crazy.
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Are you kidding? I'm not kidding.
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That's what she tells police. And what do they say?
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Do they believe her? Yeah.
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They do. I'm shocked.
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Yeah. She's like genuinely telling
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them she's a vampire. Wait did he have?
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I mean I know he was like horribly murdered but did he
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have any wounds that would they would think like not vampire
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like? Not necessarily.
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He did not have bite marks. OK.
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From what I've seen and read, I do not think he had bite marks.
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OK, heard of a vampire before? I have, yeah, I've ever heard I
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meant a vampire crime. I have heard of a vampire.
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OK, so now I'm going to tell you what actually happened that
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night, what Tracy confesses and from what her friends confess as
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well. OK, now knowing that she is a
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vampire. It's Friday, October 20th, 1989.
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There's a moon waning in the sky.
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It is 80% visible. Are you scared?
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I'm terrified. You should be scared of
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vampires. I'm terrified of vampires.
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Council worker Edward Baldock is searching for a taxi.
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He is a 47 year old father of four.
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He had been out drinking and playing darts at the Caledonian
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Club in Kangaroo Point. He is just trying to have a fun
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time, a fun night, and he's caught in the wrong place at the
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wrong time. Grandfather at 47.
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Very young to be grandfather. A kindly man was intoxicated and
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holding on to lampposts as he made his way down O'Connell St.
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not long before. Midnight.
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Do we know anything about like this area O'Connell St.
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Like it's just bars, pubs. OK.
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I don't know anything, but I'm sure others do.
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It was then that a green Holden Commodore pulled up beside him,
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full of lesbians. That's when you should.
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Run Tracy and Just Kidding group, Yes.
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Inside the car were four women. 24 year old Tracy Wigginton
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called out to the man. She's young, 24 is.
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Young. They're all very young.
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Earlier that night, what were the women doing?
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What were the lesbians doing? They were drinking champagne at
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the lesbian club Lou Morris in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley.
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Bad representation for lesbian clubs and lesbians.
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Not a good one. No, Wigginton had been burning
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with anger all day, plotting and planning.
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What? She was out on the hunt for a
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victim. Was she so angry?
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I mean vampires maybe run. Angry.
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She's just angry. So she was out on the hunt for a
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victim. Got it.
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That's terrifying. Lesbian vampire out in the
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streets of Australia is terrifying.
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Yes it is, and it was almost Halloween, which is also scary.
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So Tracy Avril Wigginton was a fan of the occult who claimed to
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be a vampire with a quote. Need to feed on animal or human
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blood? What the?
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Either type of blood. That's really scary.
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I mean, that is something I guess you see with like
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murderers and like people, like they harm animals and stuff like
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I. Wonder, but you usually don't
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have a need to feed. I was gonna say that's that's
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definitely unique. So 2 weeks earlier she had met
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Chichinsky and started it. So that's the other girl in the
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car? That's her girlfriend?
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Yes, and they had started an affair, even though Wigginton
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still lived with another lover. Is this sunshine or this is?
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I don't know if it's sunshine, I think it might be someone else.
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Gotcha. So she's a cheater as well.
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She was cheating on her partner with Tichinsky.
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Yeah, I think it's Tichinsky. You're telling me that
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Wiggington is a vampire, a murder and a cheater?
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Yes. It's like a lot.
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It's triple homicide. It's a.
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Lot of things. Yeah, it's not 3 Not good things
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and a lesbian. I'm just kidding.
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I'll take that out. So they're driving around that
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night and then what else happens?
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OK, so Wigginton was in a very emotional place at this point.
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She's looking to feed and. Apparently, Wigginton said that
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her partner or I don't know if this is sunshine, whoever she'd
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been living with her like girlfriend, had a wandering eye,
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and it made Tracy very angry, culminating that Friday in a
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feeling that she had that was a, quote, emotional volcano.
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Oh, so it sounds like when she's just like feeling tumultuous any
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other time she needs to feed. She needs to feed, right?
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Like it's like being hangry. Right, but times a million.
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Right. So anyways, Wigington arranges
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to meet Tchinsky, and Tchinsky is an unstable woman who has
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been hospitalized. Get this?
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Guess how many times 580? What?
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80 times. 80 separate occasions this woman has been
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hospitalized. For drug overdoses, 80 times.
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Oh my. Gosh, so that's a very.
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Right. And before you say, oh, wait,
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were these people, like, all innocent?
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No. It's not like these other
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lesbians are innocent either, right?
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It's really crazy. So who else was in the car?
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Kim Jervis and Tracy, Another Tracy.
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Whoa. Lovers.
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Both aged 23. OK, they had already been drawn
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into weakened tins. Satanic.
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Cult that was going to be my question.
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Are they? Is everyone part of the vampire
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cult? They are all in this cult.
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Scott. Yes.
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They're all needing to feed on this night.
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Presumably, it seems like only Wigginton wants to feed and
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needs to feed. She's like the ringleader of the
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group. Gotcha.
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Wigginton, who had had several personalities, including an
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alter ego Bobby. So again, maybe this alter ego
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wasn't just her being Butch, maybe it was because she was
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like had alter egos. Yeah, it sounds like.
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It right had convinced Tychinsky to slit her veins to be sucked
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for blood. Oh my.
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OK so is Wingington. Oh my God I have like the creeps
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is Bobby. I wonder if Bobby the alter ego
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is the vampire or if it's. Just I wonder if she was Bobby
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that night. Tracy all the time as a vampire
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and only And did did to Chinsky do it?
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Did she slit her wrist for Bobby the Vampire to drink?
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I believe, yes. I believe so.
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Oh, my. So, yeah.
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I don't know which personality she was in when she did the
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murdering. It's unclear.
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I don't think the police, like, wrote that down.
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Seriously. It's like, oh, Bobby did the
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murder. Right.
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But maybe if you asked her seriously because she is still
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alive. Wow.
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Right. So.
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Whoa. A shy Catholic private
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schoolgirl. I know there's a lot of
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Catholics in Australia, so it's really crazy.
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They're they're Catholic Australians that get involved in
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a lesbian murder. Satanic.
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Cult. I wonder if the I mean yeah, the
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like the vampire cult has like religious undertones in some
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way. I don't know, but again, really
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bad for in anyone indie or anyone like Into Witches and
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anyone who's a lesbian, because in Australia, the press about
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this. OK, I'll get to there in a
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second. So Whoa believes that Wigginton
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was the quote the Devil's bride, and was also believed that she
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was telepathic and could make her body disappear, leaving only
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cat's eyes. Wait, I'm sorry.
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Just want to make sure I'm getting this.
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Yeah, OK, so she said. Whoa, Tracy.
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Whoa. The other yeah, 23 year old
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girl. She said she believed that
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Wiginton you could make herself disappear but the only thing you
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could see of her is cats eyes. Cats eye the band.
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No cats eyes. But yes again they all really
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believe that she is has a real need for blood because she is a
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real vampire. Jervis had been told after
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breaking a crucifix necklace that she was a chosen 1.
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So they're all part of this cult now.
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Really like into it right? Jervis believed that she was a
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destroyer in the Witch's Circle of Wiginton, who had the power
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to RIP the arms off of anyone who'd stopped her from feeding
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on blood. Oh my.
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OK so this is a like crazy band of pals that are just like
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roaming the streets in Australia.
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And no one's aware. And they're just in the happy go
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lucky lesbian club and no one realizes that, right?
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These bitches, right? Everyone else in the lesbian
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club's drinking champagne, having fun.
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These four are plotting something horrendous.
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Yeah. Gee, all right, let's go back to
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the actual night of the crime. So they have just spotted him
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walking on the street, right? Edward Wigginton I'm now going
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to quote some of her quotes about it.
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Well, he was drunk walking down the street and again later.
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Edwards family has said that they are frustrated that a lot
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of this news has like painted him as this like drunk, which it
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so happened that he was drunk that night or maybe coming home
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from the bar. But it doesn't mean he was a
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drunk. Right, it's a Friday night.
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He's just like going to the pub to get some drinking plates of
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darts like that doesn't mean he. Right.
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So quote, he was the one. I don't know why he just was
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she's so crazy. She quote I told Lisa stop the
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car. Kim got in the front seat and he
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got in the back. I told her to go to the West End
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near the big shed. Quote They all knew something
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was up. I didn't have to say a thing.
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It's like they were very aware that this was happening and that
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she needed to suck the human's blood.
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Oh, that's so creepy that they were like, and it's almost kind
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of like they were like, oh, that's she's our leader.
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Like she'll be more powerful if we get her blood.
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Dude, right? Oh, that's so weird.
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SAR Edward got in the car. He had a blood alcohol level of
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0.31. The four women pulled up
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alongside him. We're unsure about what the
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women said to him in order to get him in the car, but people
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think that they may have like promised him sex because he took
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he took off his clothes later. We think that he did did take
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his own clothes off. OK.
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They drove Edward to a deserted Yacht Club.
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Wigginton and Edward got out of the car, walked to the Yacht
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Club. Now we're getting to the crime.
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Yeah. Moments later, Wigginton
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returned and said this guy is too strong, I'll need help.
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Oh my gosh. So she presumably went to try to
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attack him over by the Yacht Club and then like left him
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because he was like, too strong and.
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Maybe just realized that he was just kind of strong, I don't
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know. Both Wiginton and Tachinsky were
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armed with knives. So So Petachinsky and Jervis
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followed Wiginton back to Edward.
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At this point, Edward was sitting naked on the riverbank.
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Wiginton took the knife from Tachinsky.
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And came up behind Edward and began to stab him as Dachinsky
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and Jervis held him down. Oh my gosh, that's.
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Horrible, Wigginton recalled as the murder quote.
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I walked around him, I took my knife out of my back pocket.
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I said nothing and stabbed him. Oh my gosh.
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It's just. Cold blooded like.
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And so as you said, you're wondering if there was bite
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marks on him. There wasn't.
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But as Edward bled to death, Wigginton smoked a cigarette and
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watched. She later said she felt nothing.
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Obviously like a psychopath. Once Edward was deceased,
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Wigginton then drink the blood that was spilling out.
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Oh. My gosh.
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It's so fucking horrible. Like what do you mean you're a
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disgusting vampire? What the fuck?
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You're not a vampire, You're right.
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That's just a. Psychopath.
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Yeah, you're like a capable psychopath.
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Insane. Jervis said of the situation
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that Wigginton looked like quote a person would if they had just
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sat down to a three course dinner.
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Let's remember that Jervis and all these women are so a part of
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it. It's not like they're like, Oh
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my God, it was so disgusting and horrible.
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Like you helped. You were down for this.
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You helped murder. All accomplices in it and
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murders and murders. Stop someone.
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Well, the other one stopped. Question did they drink any
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blood? It was only Wigginton that drank
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the blood. OK, OK, Tachinsky.
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And this is like, the grossest part, I think.
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Tachinsky returned to the car. Yeah.
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Leaving Wigginton to drink her victim's blood.
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After 15 minutes, she also returned to the car, having
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washed herself and the knives in the river.
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As the girls drove off, Woe could smell blood on Wigginton's
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breath. Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
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I was going to say like, maybe she didn't actually drink the
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blood and she's just. Like no like right.
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Right. You know, she's like, OK, guys,
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I got a scary yeah and then just stayed over there and, like,
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washed off in the river, but like.
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No, she. Smelled.
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Oh my, that is my actually makes me want.
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To I know, I know. She arrived back in her flat in
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the northwestern Brisbane suburb of in Noguera.
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Wigginton realized she had left behind her Commonwealth Bank key
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card and before dawn, went back to the crime scene to search for
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it and didn't find it. And they said, and you said they
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found it in his shoes, so it somehow just must.
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Have I have no idea how it got in his shoes?
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Isn't that weird? But she couldn't find it.
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No, she couldn't find it. Well, her flatmate said that
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Wigginton had looked sick and pale with vacant eyes, like a
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zombie. OK, moving on to arrests and the
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trial. So what happened after this?
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Following the women's arrest, they were separated and
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interviewed. They all contended that
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Wigginton was the ringleader and described her as as a vampire.
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So they're all like, Yep, she's a vampire.
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They all agree. They said that she's lived on
22:49
human blood. Over the course of the
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friendship, Wigginton had told her three accomplices that she
22:55
had the ability to disappear except for her cat's eyes.
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Which is just like, so funny 'cause it's like, no, you can't.
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They also said that she avoided mirrors.
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Oh my gosh, she's like, and I can't eat garlic too because I'm
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allergic to garlic, you know? Crazy like she's like a
23:08
manipulator, like cult leader. According to the women,
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Wigginton had told them that she could not eat solid food and
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survive solely on blood. Liar.
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You're she's a liar. You're a liar.
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Chichinsky revealed that before the murder, Wigginton had drank
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her blood from cuts in her hand and then progressed to
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Chichinsky using a tourniquet to pump up the veins in her arms
23:26
that Wigginton could drink the blood more easily.
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Oh my God, she's like. She's literally like a fucking
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cannibal vampire. Whoa confirmed this blood
23:36
drinking but said that Tchinsky had a quote weak heart and
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couldn't give her any more blood.
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It's like, well, you're drinking all of her goddamn blood, do
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you? Think she was actually drinking
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her blood? It seems like, yeah, it seems
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like these women are saying, yeah.
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I mean, I don't think she was a vampire.
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Right, no, I, but right, OK. I don't know how much, right,
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right. OK.
23:53
And again, it was probably like a intimidation tactic and also
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to, like, weaken her. Like, she also was probably a
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cannibal. Like, yeah.
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Wiginton and Tichinsky, at this point had only met a week prior.
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What? And almost as soon as they met,
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Wiginton began planning the murder.
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She said that the murder would satisfy her quote craving for
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blood. And Tichinsky was probably like,
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great, you'll stop taking my blood, right?
24:14
We'll give you someone else. Following Wiginton's arrest, she
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was asked by Detective Senior Constable Danny Murdoch.
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Murdoch, have you been involved in this sort of thing before?
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She replied. Only when I was young, I would
24:26
sacrifice goats. So as you said before, like,
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sometimes these murderers are, like, violent at a young age.
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Yeah. According to her three
24:32
defendants, they had never seen Wiginton eat.
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But maybe she's just doing that in front of them.
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Also, she just met Tichinsky a week before, right?
24:38
So Tracy Wiginton ultimately pleaded guilty to the murder and
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was handed a life sentence. She enjoyed the notoriety of all
24:47
the fame because in Australia this became huge especially with
24:51
the fact they were like ex Catholics and they were all
24:53
lesbians and they were witches and in a cold huge.
24:57
Headline story. Right.
24:58
And just like demonizing the same things that are already
25:01
like demonizing and like using this as evidence for why they
25:04
should demonize it. But she really enjoyed the fame
25:08
and said to the media quote, it's hard to be famous.
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Isn't it a legend in my own mind?
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Oh, that's so. Annoying such a narcissistic
25:15
freak. That's so annoying.
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The murder trial for the other three women began in February
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1991 and they were called the Lesbian Vampire Trial.
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Yeah, that's going to. Fittingly.
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Yeah, that's going to make headlines, right?
25:28
The trial was a sensation with the courtroom pact.
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The coverage of the hearings was like played around the world.
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The murder was described as quote one of the most brutal and
25:37
bizarre crimes Australia has ever seen.
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Have I never heard of this? I know, I think it's.
25:42
Australia and I guess we're just like too focused on like
25:45
American shit. Jervis was convicted of
25:48
manslaughter and sentenced to 18 years.
25:51
Woe was acquitted of all charges, which, like, one of an
25:54
accomplice is crazy. And for Tchinsky, she was
25:58
convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison
26:01
because she stabbed him as well, right, in 2008.
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And it's interesting that, like, mostly Tracy has gone the
26:06
notoriety and like, the background here, which is kind
26:09
of interesting, I guess, because she was like, the ringleader of
26:11
the cult. And in 2008, Tchinsky was then
26:14
released from prison. What?
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Yeah. So she was handed down a life
26:19
sentence. But they must have.
26:20
Just like like out on parole or something.
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So let's talk about Tracy in prison because it the story
26:27
doesn't really end 1991. Tracy's mother, Rhonda Hopkins,
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an interview in which she refuted the claims of her
26:36
daughter being a vampire and said, quote, she told me she
26:38
didn't drink blood and I believe her.
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All right, Queen quote. When she was a kid, she can
26:44
never stand the sight of blood. She and her lover were both
26:48
country girls and we're not part of the city lesbian community in
26:51
Brisbane. I'm very against the lesbian
26:53
community. OK, so she's just trying to
26:54
like, refute probably all of the things about Wigington to like,
26:58
save her in her image. And also in her brain too, right
27:03
in the women's prison, the Brisbane women's prison that
27:05
Wiggington was in, she helped run the library.
27:08
But one former inmate said that she was not like the other
27:11
girls. She would sit there for hours,
27:14
quote rolling marbles and grating her tea.
27:17
Oh. Well, she also rolls the silver
27:19
foil from cigarette packets round and turns it in her hand
27:22
until it disintegrates. Just like a freak.
27:24
Yes, she's. Really, really crazy quote.
27:27
She's. Evil.
27:27
She's a strange person in the world of her own.
27:30
Then, in an interview with the Courier Mail from behind bars in
27:34
1996, Wiginton said that she was, in a, quote, blind fury as
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she stabbed Mr. Baldock. Wait.
27:40
She said that in the moments that she was taking his life,
27:42
released repressed rage from a childhood and filled with abuse.
27:47
Isn't that so unfair? A lot of people have abuse and
27:49
they don't murder people. The vast majority, right, Right.
27:53
So it's like, that's so. It's not like there's many
27:56
lesbian murderers, quote, she said about the murder.
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Quote. Murder is a terrifying
28:01
experience. Bitch, you did it right.
28:04
Just for you. Well, it's also really
28:06
interesting because like right after she's saying like, oh, I
28:09
didn't feel anything like. I'm like, oh, now all of a
28:13
sudden in 2006, Wigington assaulted a police officer and
28:17
another inmate. Like, also people that she did a
28:21
violent murder, it's not surprising.
28:23
And routinely applied for parole.
28:25
And then on the 11th of January, 2012, yeah, that parole was
28:29
granted. What?
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She served 25 years in prison. You're kidding.
28:33
I'm not kidding. And she's out.
28:34
Yeah, she's out in the streets of Australia.
28:37
No, yeah. So be careful.
28:39
Out there. Oh my gosh, I'm scared.
28:42
She didn't go silently. Oh, I do think there's something
28:45
to be said for a woman being maybe treated as like less
28:49
violent. Like I'm sure they were like,
28:51
oh, look at this old woman now. She should like be let out.
28:55
To get her. Get her on parole.
28:56
You know, which is insane. Right.
28:59
She's a sadistic vampire, So out from behind bars, Wigginton
29:04
maintained a low profile when she got out of prison until
29:07
2019. Oh my gosh.
29:09
When she shared on Facebook account that people have tracked
29:13
to her, she shared chilling images encouraging people to
29:18
quote panic because I'm back. What are you kidding me?
29:24
Like, it's so scary. That's.
29:29
And This is why she shouldn't have been let out of prison.
29:31
Well, right. There are many reasons why she
29:33
shouldn't have been let out. This is.
29:35
This is crazy. So watch her back Australia.
29:38
Sorry I feel bad for Australia. You guys will be OK I.
29:41
Think how old is she now? I don't know, maybe in her 50s
29:45
on the Facebook page with the name of one of her alter egos,
29:49
she posted pictures of vampires, which is demons and a pile of
29:53
skull, skulls and bones, with some saying that they think that
29:57
these are real human remains. Oh.
29:59
My gosh. And the reason why people think
30:01
that is that when her apartment was searched, they found
30:04
pictures of grave sites. They think there maybe is more
30:08
than they don't know. I don't obviously, I have no
30:10
idea like there could be more victims and she kind of seems
30:13
like the person that just wants to like.
30:15
Fear monger and scare people Yeah one post made reference to
30:18
eating people saying this is actually crazy Sylvia this is
30:22
crazy quote. Do not meddle with the affairs
30:25
of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with.
30:28
Ketchup. Oh my gosh.
30:30
What? Sorry, I'm like just trying to
30:33
collect myself. I'm speechless.
30:35
Jeez. No, please.
30:37
This is a really horrible. And again, it's still like, how
30:40
is this still on? How is this allowed to be
30:42
posted? The News interviewed Edward
30:44
Baldock's daughter Tracy, who said about his daughter's name
30:47
is Tracy. Yeah, there's 3 Tracy's in this
30:51
story. I think Tracy's just a very
30:52
common name in the 80s. Yeah, that's just like really
30:54
sad. I.
30:55
Know it is who said Wigginton should have stayed in prison
30:58
forever, and the whole family told 9 News that they find her
31:02
post very distressing. Yeah she is out of prison
31:07
walking Australia streets as a quote vampire.
31:11
I wonder if she still requires blood to live.
31:14
Seemed like she was fine in prison when she didn't get
31:15
blood. Wait, that's so right, Right,
31:18
right. So I don't think you actually do
31:20
need. Blood.
31:20
So I think she's fine. Oh.
31:21
My gosh. Oh my gosh, that's right, right.
31:24
But yes, the, the Baldock family has expressed that it's very
31:27
frustrating that she's posting this and it's very scary that
31:32
she's posting this. And, you know, they want to tell
31:35
the story of like their father, their grandfather, who was a lot
31:40
more than a victim of a insane vampire, who he was a father to
31:45
five and a grandfather to two. He was a man who loved his job,
31:49
the beach and his family. He had a lot to live for.
31:52
And it was taken from him. And his daughter still
31:54
remembers, after 30 years how dedicated her dad was to his.
31:57
Family, right? That's so sad.
31:59
He was so young too. It was so sad.
32:01
That's horrible. So in closing, that is the story
32:04
of the vampire, lesbian killer and the family man who was in
32:07
the wrong place at the wrong time.
32:08
Heartbreaking. Yeah.
32:09
And disgusting. And.
32:11
Horrible, so horrible. I.
32:13
Cannot believe that she was let out parole.
32:17
As we know, being a lesbian and being a witch does not mean you
32:19
are a killer, but for this lesbian, it did.
32:24
Wow. It is a very unique story, given
32:29
that you know every story. I like to touch on gay people in
32:32
general and lesbian murder is rare.
32:36
That's what makes it so insane. And what was very unique about
32:40
this story was that a lot of women that kill men, they're
32:44
abused by them. This woman was not no.
32:47
She didn't even know him. She was just a fucking vampire.
32:51
Wow. Yeah, and Sophia, the only thing
32:53
scarier than Halloween stories is real life.
32:59
Anyways, I hope you guys have a great Halloween.
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Wow, How are you feeling? I'm feeling very shook and
33:06
shaken up. Did you expect for it to take
33:08
such a dark, sadistic turn? Not at all.
33:11
That was like a wild story. I can't believe I had never
33:14
heard of this case. It's horrible.
33:16
So sad, so scary, so like, uniquely strange and insane.
33:22
What do you mean? What do you mean she disappears
33:25
and you can only see her cat eyes that doesn't or that she
33:28
doesn't walk in front of mirrors?
33:29
Right. Bullshit, spooky and very.
33:31
Scared I'm Boo. OK, thanks for coming up.
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This was scary. This was.
33:36
Terrifying. This was very, very on point
33:39
Halloween. Episode very scary.
33:41
Thanks I think so too. Let me know if you guys have any
33:43
other ideas for holiday based episodes or bonus special
33:47
content besides my usual non murderous content.
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I will be back in a little over a week for my normal usual gay
33:57
pop culture and I hope you guys have a great Halloween.
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Australia, be safe out there.