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Ep. 231 ~ A Descent Into Madness · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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Everything is going to hell down here in Dactaiday. Now, Yeah, what
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is up? Everybody? Welcome to the show in this episode two hundred and
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thirty one, a balloon gumming podcast, and I am your host, Big
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Bad Bob otherwise known as Rob Clark, here with you today. A damn
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levels All right, what's up? It feels good to be back in the
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saddle again, and just some real real talk before we start. Opening this
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episode here entitled Dissent into Madness, The mostly true story of a first generation
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researcher's downfall. You know, obsession is never really a good thing, be
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it with people, or ideas or material items, these things can often lead
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to a very bad situation. And like with anything else, there have been
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many many folks over the years who have become obsessed with trying to solve this
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case, to be that person that finally puts all the puzzle pieces together and
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truly solves the case. Many people that many great people have met their maker
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before seeing this dream become a reality. And I'm no different. I'll probably
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be six feet in the ground before or was your anything else now? But
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again, with anything else, obsession and ruin your life, not only your
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personal life, your private life, your work life, your reputation, becoming
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paranoid, becoming aggressive, becoming obscene, and seriously mar one's character and reputation
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in this world among their peers and their family and their friends. And like
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I said, it's never a good thing, never, And it has affected
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many people in different in different lines of research, you know, and I'm
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not just talking about JFK research, you know, nine to eleven research,
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the Oklahoma City bombing, just about anything that people looked into. There's been
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certain individuals who have become obsessed with the facts of the case and trying to
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figure it out, becoming a nuisance, just doing all kinds of crazy,
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crazy stuff along the way. And today we're going to be looking at the
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tale. And I've mentioned them on this show before regarding something else, but
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never really fully dived into his entire story, which we're going to do today.
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And it's about a man, a researcher, a first generation researcher named
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Ted Gandolpho. Now you probably haven't heard about Ted Gandolpho. He didn't really
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what he did write a book, but it was mainly a compilation of newsletters
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and in the seventies during the HSCA investigation. He became really obsessed with the
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FBI, the CIA, and Robert Blakey in particular about not investigating the case
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thoroughly. And like like I said, he was a very interesting individual.
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And the earliest that I can endpoint Ted Kandolpho's were a into the Kennedy assassination
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is in mid nineteen sixty seven, and apparently he was at work doing things
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interested in the assassination of his own going back to November of nineteen sixty six.
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And but we'll get to that. So in nineteen sixty seven, he
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sends out a newsletter to some very prominent first generation researchers. It's the title
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to Search for the Truth, and it says a recent survey shows that sixty
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seven percent of the American people do not accept the conclusions of the war in
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report that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, killed President John F. Kennedy.
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President Johnson has placed all of the evidence, including the X rays and
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the photographs, in the National Archives in Washington, telling us that we the
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citizens of this country, cannot see this vital information until the year twenty thirty
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five. Ridiculous. This is a democracy, and in the democracy the people
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make the decisions. In a democracy, we have the right, Tono.
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We can demand the president open up the files and let us know what really
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happened on November twenty, nineteen sixty three. We can demand that our Congress
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passed legislation so that we can find out who killed our president and why he
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was killed. I loved my late president and the things he stood for.
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That is why I have undertaken this project alone and unaided by anyone or any
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group. At my own expense. I have had these circulars printed. I
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prefer it this way. All I desire is to get as many names as
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possible and bring them personally to Washington in petition like forms. So please don't
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throw these circulars away, but pass them on to your friends. Please please
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help me in this effort for the truthful evidence in this case by sending me
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your name. Although I will never communicate with you in any way, you
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have my heartfelt things beforehand. Thank you, fellow Americans, Sincerely, Head
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Dandolpho. Okay, now he says he will never responded in any way with
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people that answer this letter, if you want to call it that more like
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a statement or such. The closed with Harold Wiseberg's copy of this circular as
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a handwritten letter dated September seventeenth, nineteen sixty seven. Dear mister Wiseberg,
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I received your book in your letter, thank you, and your letter you
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asked for a clipping of ranking statement in which he stated that it would be
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enough if the commission could prove when only two shots were fired. He said
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that he made that statement in the New York Times about Christmas of sixty four.
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Looking around through my organized and chronologically listed slippings and documents, I was
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unable to locate that one. And he goes one for a couple page,
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and it's of course handwritten, which I hate trying to fucking read on the
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air. So we will skip to the end where he also includes partial listing
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of tape recordings. Now, everybody's got a knee in the Kennedy assassination and
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Ted Gandolpho's niche was audio and video recordings, Okay, mostly audio, and
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of course this was a big thing back then. And he has a listing
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here, and I won't read all of them, but i'll give you an
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idea of what's going on here. So from November twenty two, sixty three,
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he's got from CBS EV Walter ron Kite and others in New York and
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Dallas. Hexa's report, bulletins and first news of assassination attempt to President Kennedy
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out of Dallas. Very important hate two hours Excuse Me, November nineteen sixty
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six from Channel five wny W TV special The Warren Commissioned Pro and Con featuring
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Mark Lane, Edward Epstein, Wesley Leiebler, Richard Rover, Burt Griffith plus
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a moderator. Two hours November twelve, sixty six, Channel five w any
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WTV special JFK Assassination A Minority Report featuring Harold Wiseberg, Mark Lane, Rio
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Savage and Jones, Jacob Cohen and Jim Bishop as a moderator. Three hours
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November twenty six, nineteen sixty six, The Alan Burke Show w n W
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Channel five, Mark Lane is a guest. December nineteen sixty six, Alan
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Burke Show, w n e W Channel five, Marguerite Oswald as a guest
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two hours. Man. I wish we had some of this stuff still around
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today that somebody could digitize, But he goes through a lot of this stuff.
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He's even got through July fifteen, sixty sixty seven listed on here.
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For example, June twenty six, nineteen sixty seven, William Gurviche Garrison's investigator
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Quit Staff, CBS TV News. Gervage tells his reasons June twenty six,
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sixty seven WMCA Radio Barry Gray hosts Mark Lane, Emilio D'Antonio, emil d'
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antonio, Stanley rebrint An attorney Joseph Lowenthal two hours. So this is the
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kind of thing that our boy, Tay Gandolpho was into you back in the
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day. As a first generation researcher Onetember twentieth, nineteen sixty seventy, Harold
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Wiseberg decides to write mister Gandolpho back many thanks for the time and trouble in
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locating the ranking quote. Sorry you haven't found it after all this time.
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It is possible my recollection is unclear, but on this activist because this having
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made the statement and might having seen it in the times, I am certain
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he said it. Your listing of tapes is promising. Looking in your files
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of organized clippings may be very valuable. I hope you preserve them intact.
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Perhaps someday they can become part of an archive. I will remember your invitation,
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for which I'm very very grateful, and possibly sometime I can accept it.
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What I'd like to do sometime when I have to stay overnight in New
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York has visit you that night and see what you have. Mark Lane has
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left the New York area where he will make his permanent residence. I don't
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know. I heard he was going to teach and Stanford, and then he
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was going to go to New Orleans for the duration of the trial. You
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have a number of tapes that I do not. I'm glad to know what
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you do have. When your flyer may ask heggested it not. It's nice
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to say that everything in the archives is denied everyone, but now I'm confident
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that more than a half of its material is accessible to qualify researchers. Many
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thanks for your efforts, I think also to your wife. Keep up the
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good work. Sincerely, Harold Wiseberg. So that is in nineteen sixty seven,
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Volks. Now in the ensuing years, mister jimdalso is a very tenacious
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and aggressive proponent of the truth. He he works his way onto was It
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Public Access TV, where he has his own TV show where he tries to
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get guests on there and to interview them. He submits articles to a ton
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of countrywide news magazines, including one that was published in the The New Yorker.
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Actually, and he also appoints himself as chairman of the Assassination Information Committee,
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located on First Avenue in New York, New York. So, like
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I said, he's a very tenacious guy. He creates a committee to look
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into the assassination, He creates a lobic access TV show, He buys time
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on radio shows. He is very into news clippings and audio recordings, and
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in later years, once you know, technology is called up video recordings.
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So this article that he writes from the New Yorkers, his entitled Tapes just
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proved the war In report, and he says the war In reports conclusion that
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Lee Harvey Oswald was the soulless ass and of President Kennedy was the result of
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a blatant misre misrepresentation of the known facts, evidence, and until recently suppressed
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commission documents themselves. According to the earliest TV accounts from Dallas, which were
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truthful ones from an unseen reporter, or commission's conclusions subsequently reached or no serious
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relationship to what actually occurred, on November twenty Seco nineteen sixty three. What
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follows is a small sampling of chronological verbatim accounts of media reportage derived from the
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actual NBCTV tapes. In my position, speakers through here and points out a
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couple of things which we're not going to hit them all, but just for
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example, three h nine pm, Mary Mormon star to take the picture as
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the president became right even with us. Three shots. We looked at him
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and he was looking at the middle of the street. Three shots rang out,
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and he grabbed his chest and a look of pain on his face and
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fell across towards Jackie and she said, my god, he's shot. And
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there was an interval and then three or more shot. Three or four more
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shots rang out. Question by reporter, did you see the person who fired
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the shots? Answered no, I didn't see any person fire the weapon.
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You only heard it, Yeah, I only heard it. And I looked
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up and saw a man running along the top of the hill. And this
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was Gene Hill statement to a Dallas reporter at three z nine pm. And
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it just goes through a bunch of stuff or once again, I believe this
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is the actions of an over zealous researcher. He goes through in states and
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points and says that action we do not recommend the discussion of the assassination question
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be initiated where it is not already taken place. A to discuss the publicity
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problem with liaison and friendly elite contacts, especially politicians and editors, be to
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employ propaganda assets to answer and refute the attacks of the critics, book reviews,
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and feature articles. Our purpose. There is more to this document,
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but the above portion is an indication of the phenomenal power play by the CIA
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to rebut honest valid questions of like provably false and fraudulent Warren report. I'm
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of the firm convicted conviction that this country will remain a nation of buying for
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our people, as our heritage so proudly proclaims. If and only if we
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find out finally the truth about it who killed John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin
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Luther King Jr. Then and only then can we be successful in the prevention
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of future assassinations of the great political leaders of our times. Only then can
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we truly be free. And this is from July ninth, nineteen seventy seven.
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Of course, now companying this argle in the files of mister Harold Weisberg
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is what qualifies in my eyes as a looney cuckoo letter to Robert Blakey.
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Yeah, I have an important opening statement to make, Bob, to you
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and all your listeners. It will be the most important statement I've ever made
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in more than three hundred radio and TV shows I've done in the last three
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years, and it relates to questions which go to the heart of the functioning
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of this government. In specific terms, that is a question of whether or
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not the people of this country will finally be granted their right to know the
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truth about the assassination of John F. Kennedy on assassinations which has absolutely convinced
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Committee investigators of a definite conspiracy. This evidence includes tape recordings of conspiratorial meetings
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in New Orleans, a confession from one of the participants of these meetings as
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an accessory on tape hours, dates places trips that trips to Dallas in preparation
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for the murder, absolute verification and corroboration maps specifying the firing zones, photographs
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of participants in Dallas, US. On November twenty, nineteen sixty three,
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the House Committee has already conducted neutron activation and spectrographic analysis and the bullet fragments
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in the JFK case, and those tests proved beyond a question that more than
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one rifle was fired the President. Because of this and much more conclusive evidence
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of conspiracy, Committee investigators have begun to rebel against the Chief Council Robert Blakey,
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who has and will continue to suppress all of this conclusive evidence because you
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have dedicated to securing a position I opened the Criminal Division of the Justice Department,
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a position which was mentioned two months ago into Washington Post. The Committee
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investigators that want to come forward with this information and evidence, but they are
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not allowed to do so because they were all forced to sign non disclosure agreements
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which prohibit them for life from disclosing any information they secure, under penalty of
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being fined five thousand dollars and sent to prison if they disclose it. Blake
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has already recently fired to Committee investigators Robert Learner and Donovan Gay because they've descended
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and rebelled with Blakey's suppressions and cover up of the overwhelming conspiracy evidence they had
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seen. Blakey is covering up this evidence, and he must not be allowed
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to do it. We, my fellow private researchers, and I are asking,
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in fact pleading with everyone within the sound of our voices, to write
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or cable Graham or telegram the chairman of the House Committee, Congressman Louise Stokes,
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or to me and I'll see to it they reach him immediately. I
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am demanding this atrocious nondisclosure agreement be abolished. Of the people this country will
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be granted their right to see and hear all of the evidence of the conspiracies
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and the JFK and King assassinations, and to insist in demand the Chief Council
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of Robert Blakey be fired immediately by that committee. And this letter was sent
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to Louis Stokes, who was the Chairman of the Household Committee on Assassinations.
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So yeah, here we go, folks. Gandolphin was very vocal during and
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after the HSCA investigation that Blinky was corrupt and suppressing evidence, and claimed that
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he had proof of this in the form of audio tapes, confessions and real
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evidence. So the fast forward a couple of years, and you want to
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know how to get on the well if they had one back then, the
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no Fly list, the pay we're gonna watch now list. So we'll just
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send a crazy letter to the President of the United States. October eighteenth,
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nineteen eighty two. Mister Ronald Reagan, President of the United States, Dear
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mister President, I'm sending you this letter and the hope that the grave miscarriage
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of justice may yet be rectified. It involves the fact that very crucial evidence
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and information relating to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy has been and
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definitely was entirely suppressed and covered up by HSCA in general and by their Chief
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Council Robert Blakey in particular. I will refer to just one of many items
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of evidence in this regard. On February eleventh, nineteen seventy eight, I
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had a long conversation with former New Orleans District Attorney now Judge Jimmy Garrison.
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During our converse station, which I tape recorded, he told me that the
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House Select Committee had sent a team of investigators, headed by mister Cliftston to
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mister Garrison's office to secure the evidence that Garrison had accumulated during his investigation of
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the jfk assassination. Garrison told me that as a result of the committee's investigators
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viewing and hearing this evidence, that they were all convinced of a massive conspiracy
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to murder JFK. Garrison also told me that these investigators also obtained from New
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Orleans and also Clinton tape recordings in which the assassination of JFK were being discussed
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by, among others, voices which were identified as being contract employees of the
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Central Intelligence Agency, and on these tapes they were discussing how they were going
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to assassinate President Kennedy in Dallas on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three.
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This evidence was completely suppressed in the House final Report, and in fact,
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mister Garrison was not even called to testify before the committee at all. I'm
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certain you will agree that this matter should be immediately brought to the attention of
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the Justice Department so they may conduct a full investigation into the most this most
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important suppressed information and evidence, so that the interest of truth, honor,
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and justice may fully be served. I will be only too happy to send
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you a copy of this most important conversation between mister Garrison and myself. Therefore,
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I implore you, sir, to write to me as soon as possible
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regarding the above information, which I trust you'll agree with me, is of
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the most vital importance. I'll be a waiting year. I sincerely hope soon
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reply respectfully yours, Ted Gandolpho, Chairman of the Assassination Information Committee. Now
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a month after writing that letter to the President, there's a note in Wiseberg's
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file that said, Ted Gandolpho, who phouned me a little afternoon to tell
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me about a week ago a man had to say that something was going to
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happen to his wife and that today it did. So he left her for
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work, did not get there. They had not heard from her, and
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he found the police who had no report about anything happening to her. Hwne
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eighty two. I guess this is some seemingly ominous information that something happened to
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his wife. I'm not sure exactly what. But later on in December of
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nineteen eighty two, I have a letter that Ted Gendoffers sent out to Wiseberg's
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Brague made Brussel brother, his brothers, John Paul's mother, Edith, and
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YadA, YadA, YadA. This is high all. Firstly, Merry Christmas
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and happy New Year from us all in eighty three. These are pretty rough
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times for me and Anita. As you know by now, no one can
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be certain of what the future holds, of course, but hopefully all will
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turn out okay in the end, hopefully not too distant in the future.
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At the present time, I have to turn a tremendous set of personal emotional
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problems which must be dealt with firstly, and I hope effectively. Then perhaps
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and hopefully I'll be able to get into the mainstream again and to function as
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I should function. Hopefully that day will not be too holling coming. Anita
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has been, in a word, terrific, a real God send to me
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in these most difficult personal times. In addition, your best wishes and prayers
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are also much sid Thank you for everything. Really, I'll communicate again in
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a little while when I'm feeling more better. Thanks for Anita and myself,
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Sincerely, Teddy and Alpho, same December nineteen eighty two. Two days after
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that one was sent, he says, as to the same people, this
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is quite different. This is a quite different typewriter. So I made mistakes.
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I'm going through a very difficult period in my life now. It is
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a process of evaluation priorities, self analysis, etc. I was recently taking
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completely off of my medication, which I've taken for five years now, and
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the result was devastating, to say the least. My anxiety has became so
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horrible and bad that I thought I would go completely balkers. Now they have
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restored a new medication to me, and I'm feeling a little better because of
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it. I have been told that they probably would not be able to determine
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the causes of my five years of getting anxiety attacks, but that they would
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finally be able to help me when I get them, so it's better than
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nothing, I guess. I have no idea how long I'll be able to
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stay here, but I've heard that this hospital doesn't keep you for more than
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two or three months. I hope not. This is a very difficult time
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in mind and Needer's life will need your prayers and good wishes. Hopefully all
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will be okay soon. Mist regards and write me soon. I'm lonely ted
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Gandolfo Right so now, Apparently at the end of nineteen eighty two, mister
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Gandolfo finds himself mentally deteriorating an end a hospital suffering from quite bad anxiety.
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So fast forward a couple of weeks. Now we're in the middle of January
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nineteen eighty three, and I believe mister Gandolpho is ready to hang it up
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as a he JFK assassination researcher, and he is ready to donate his collection
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to a university, Okay now for whatever reason. And I don't know that
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he has any ties that this university whatsoever, but he selects the University of
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Wisconsin at Steven's point where he wants to donate his stuff. So we have
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a letter now from actually another assassination researcher who you may have heard of,
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named David Roon w RNE, and he apparently works at the University of Wisconsin,
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and he happens to be the one that's answering Ted Gandolpho's letter, dear
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ted, thank you for your recent letter concerning your tape, recorded and printed
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files on the assassination of President Kennedy. I was distressed to read that you
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are ill on suffering from severe financial problems. I trust it all will eventually
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work its way out for you. In consultation with the dean of our Learning
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Resource Center, I can report to you on the several questions you asked me.
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One r e. The question of your donation being an income tax deduction,
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the IRS prohibits an institutions, such as the University of Steven's Point,
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from making an estimate of the value of a collection and giving it to any
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person or institution. The IRS says there must be an evaluation of the collection
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by a certified evaluate her one. Once that certificate is executed by the evaluator,
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it is given to the donor, which in this instance would be you.
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In our city of Stevens Points, there's a lady who can and has
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performed this task before. We would take this list of materials to her and
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she would place a value upon it, give this certificate to you, and
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you would then be able to use this document for your tax purposes. Since
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you were going to be given us your material excuse me without charge? Would
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we would pay for the certification and have it forwarded to you. Shipping shipping
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costs we meant also package transportation and postage. However, we would wish to
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see the list of materials before we could tell you which form of transportation to
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use. We would of course paid for the shipping and transportation of your materials
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to us. We must know how much materials you have. I have to
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determine the amounts and arrange for the certification. Thus, please send a detailed
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list of what all your material consists of, both printed and taped. We
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await your reply at your earliest possible opportunity. Sincerely, David Rome so now
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Ted writes back with a detailed list, which is Dear mister Browne, received
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your letter today asking for a detailed list. Here we go. Taped recordings.
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I have two hundred and twenty five seven inch reels of tapes. Four
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tracks were sides on each tape. I have forty three five inch reels of
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tapes. I have seventy nine set tapes. I have ten one hour long
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video tapes on one half inch reels of tape. These tapes total approximately forty
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three hundred hours in total time. Each tape is in a box with written
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listings. Inside boxes printed documents one box two and a half feet a cross
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and one and a half feet high, one and a half feet wide.
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One box one ft high by one ft long by one ft wide. One
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box of House Select Committee documents two and a half feet long, one ft
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high, one and a half feet wide, one large dresser drawer full of
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documents, letters, etc. Two very large thick scrap books books. I
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have sixty books regarding the j K, MLK and RFK assassinations, and that
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is a detailed listing of my materials. I would appreciate an evaluation the DADA
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I want these income tax The ducchans listed under my wife's name is Anita Giagio.
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Since I am unable to work unemployed for reasons of health, and she
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lists claims me as her dependent, I would prefer to have all my materials
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transported to you by truck or car rather than the mails, if possible,
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is to prevent loss or theft. I'll be awaiting your evaluation. Also,
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do provide boxes respectfully. Yours take end also now in the middle of all
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this, Ted writes Harold a letter nineteen eighty four February nineteenth and clothes you'll
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find some important previous correspondence between the University of Wisconsin and myself are my materials.
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I would appreciate it very much if you would look at this correspondence over.
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But let me know if you think the amount for income tax deductions they
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are offering me a good or even a fair one for all my taped in
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printing materials or not. So please read it carefully and take your time and
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let me know by mail if you think it's an equitable amount they are offering
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me. The reason I'm asking your advice on this is obviously because I'm very
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unknowledgeable about these things. My wife thinks that for the vast materials I'm offering
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them, she thinks their amount to me is too small. What do you
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think, Harold? I'll abide by what you say in response because I respect
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your judgment. Thanks a lot for doing this for me. I appreciate your
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indultment indulgence. Sincerely Ted, So he writes back, dear Ted, I've
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gone over what you sent me, and it appears to be to me to
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be in order and the best that they can do. They are limited to
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what I aris accepts, and so is the appraiser. The only point of
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comparison I have is one item where I've sent them z roses, and this
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end I was told the identical thing ten cents a page with the books.
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That's impossible to know without a list of them and knowing their condition or rarity.
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But I am certain if this can be appraised upward. They will see
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to it. I've known Ron for years and he is an honest man.
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However, also bear in mind that on your end it must bear irs scrutiny,
39:09
and if they have any reason have any questions, he'd have troubles.
39:15
No sure telling Nita that Nixon saw to it that all such things would be
39:24
on the low side and examined with care because of the crooked things he tried
39:30
and in which he got caught. Or do you and she remember that stink
39:34
not a praiser who also had a big professional reputation, got into a lot
39:37
of trouble and hurt himself by it. You can depend on it. If
39:43
any of it can be given a higher evaluation, it will be. I
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hope you're both well. Best now So a month later, March nineteen eighty
39:59
three, mister Nanduffoto, we are happy to accept your materials on the assassination
40:04
of John if Kennedy. Our response has been delayed due to the untimely illness
40:08
of the appraiser. Her health is now restored and we can proceed at this
40:14
time. Enclosed is a tentative evaluation of the materials as described in your previous
40:20
letter. The book estimates will be revised upon careful scrutiny of the volumes.
40:25
The attached to evaluation is only an estimate. Upon receipt of the materials,
40:30
their value will be officially certified by the appraiser, who requires that the materials
40:36
be physically in her hands before executing the document. The income Tax Deductions certificate
40:42
will be listed in your wife's name, Anita Gilagio. We eagerly await receiving
40:49
the materials. These package and ship the materials as soon as possible. We
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are sending you by United Parcel twenty boxes and the necessary packaging materials and closed
40:59
as a check the amount of two hundred dollars to cover your expenses and labor
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involved in assembling the packages and shipping the material to us. Sincerely, David
41:07
Rome and the estimate it included for all of his stuff is the tape recordings,
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the two hundred and twenty five reels of seven inch tape twenty nine one
41:27
hundred and thirty six dollars and twenty five cents. The forty three reels a
41:30
five inch tape at seven forty five each three or three hundred and twenty dollars
41:36
thirty five cents. Printed documents nineteen thousand, five hundred sheets and two pataged
41:44
at ten cents a sheet, nineteen hundred and fifty dollars, Audio cassettes at
41:49
one fifty sixty each, seventy nine sixty minute cassettes one hundred and twenty three
41:54
dollars and twenty four cents a video cassettes, ten to sixty minute half inch
42:00
cassettes at sixteen ninety one each one hundred and sixty nine dollars and ten cents.
42:06
Sixty volumes of books three hundred and sixty dollars, for a total estimated
42:09
value of your entire collection SIR to be five thousand, eight hundred and fifty
42:15
eight dollars ninety four cents, which basically estimates to be a base level estimate
42:30
of the costs incurred by a can't off to do all this like this is
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at the time a seven inch reeler tape costs thirteen dollars and five cents each.
42:45
They're not estimating the value of what is actually on the documents, on
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the recordings, on the cassettes or the books. So again, the final
42:59
the final quote may have been higher, but the estimated value is five thousand,
43:06
eight hundred and fifty eight dollars and ninety four cents. So we know
43:12
Gandolfo's in poor health, unemployed, our financial straits, ready to give all
43:19
this up, get rid of his collection, right it off on his taxes
43:25
and move on. At this point nineteen eighty three. Now, for whatever
43:31
reason, I don't think he followed through with this. I think at the
43:35
last minute he he probably told himself I can't heart like my polect and his
43:42
brife is probably like God bim it. But because as you'll see, we'll
43:50
get there, I promise. But let's fast forward to the year of our
43:54
Lord nineteen eighty six, where he sends Larry Stratterman a letter. Now,
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Larry Stratterman is the Information and Privacy coordinator for the Central Intelligence Agency. Once
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again, if you want to get onto radar, you know, start hassling
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very important people. Dear mister Strotherman. Enclosed, please find my most recent
44:24
newsletter entitled Assassination USA, which is sent out by monthly to more than twenty
44:30
seven hundred subscribers across the country. As you see the league cover story and
44:37
the revelations it contains, the primary reason I'm sending it to you and your
44:43
agency. The devastating information published herein will no doubt speak for itself. This
44:50
story, revealed here for the very first time anywhere in any publication, is
44:54
entirely true in every aspect, and is completely documented and corroborated by the enclosed
45:02
and indeed other corroborative evidence in my personal files and possession and elsewhere, or
45:08
have submitted it all and placed it in the possession of several persons should mine
45:13
ever become quote, lost, or in some way confiscated by whomever. I
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am in more than twenty three year private researcher on the jfk assassination, and
45:23
have appeared as guest expert on more than two hundred and fifty radio and TV
45:29
shows, including my own hourly weekly cable TV shows in nineteen seventy seven.
45:35
In nineteen seventy eight, I have also compiled the largest all inclusive tape recorded
45:39
library in the world on this case, numbering more than five thousand hours at
45:45
the present. And continuing the reason I'm sending you the enclosed informations in the
45:51
serving holt that you or anyone else in the agency will respond to the information
45:54
contained herein hopefully as soon as possible. If when I receive a reply from
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the Agency, I will be only too happy to publish it in my next
46:06
newsletter for the edification of my many subscribers and listening audience during radio shows I
46:12
am still appearing on are this case. Should I not receive a reply or
46:16
any response at all, that in and of itself will be reported by myself
46:22
as well and will exactly vative indicative of certain things relating to a lack of
46:29
deniability regarding this matter from you, the Agency. I await you're hopefully soon
46:36
reply and response eagerly, Sincerely, yours head Yindoffo, Chairman of the Assassination
46:44
Information Committee, New York, New York. Yeah, probably probably not the
46:50
best idea to threaten the CIA TAD, but that's just me. And you
46:57
heard him mention in there that he had now he has ever five thousand hours
47:00
of audio tape and continuing. That's what makes me think that he didn't go
47:06
through with his submission to the University of Wisconsin, or if he did,
47:13
he copied everything and gave them copies, which it's a little disingenuous, but
47:22
I digress. Then we move on to December of nineteen eighty six, in
47:29
which I have a copy of t Head Gandolfers newsletter, his Assassination USA newsletter,
47:37
that is that goes out to his twenty seven hundred subscribers, with copies
47:45
sent to Blakey, Garrison, Sprague, Lane, lect Brussell, Kauwhawk,
47:53
President Reagan, CIA, and just for FBI, the US Congress, and
48:00
several magazines. This is a very special holiday edition. Jim Garrison completely vindicated
48:12
absolute proof that Robert Blakey, chief Council of the House Select Committee, deliberately
48:17
covered up Garrison's evidence of direct CIA involvement of the JFK assassination or orders from
48:24
his actual employers, the CIA. I now have conclusive proof that this evidence
48:31
of direct CI involvement in the crime was supplied by Jim Garrison to Cliff Fenton,
48:37
who headed a five man investigative team for the committee, and this conclusive,
48:43
overwhelming evidence of direct CI involvement in the crime was then given personally to
48:49
Blakey, who completely suppressed all of it from the citizens of this country,
48:52
indeed peoples of the whole world. So apparently most twentieth nineteen eighty six ed
49:02
Vandolpho interviewed his nemesis Robert Blakey. Now this is, of course, seven
49:12
years after the hsc A disbanded and published their findings, and kudos to Blakey
49:20
for even taking this guy's phone call at this point, directly from the newsletter,
49:25
the interview went a little something like this. I began this conversation by
49:37
asking Buddy Blakey about one of the assassins we have nicknamed Frenchie. He refused
49:45
to comment to my question about him. And now for the crucially important dialogue
49:49
and saying, hsc investigator Cliffenton, who Dick's bragge, my friend, who
49:54
is the photography genius of the case. He told me that Blakey would never
49:59
discuss with anyone in the past. The relevant dialogue followers. Gandolpho starts.
50:07
I also contacted Jim Garrison, and he said that a team of investigators headed
50:13
by Fenton received from Garrison evidence definitely proving a CIA conspiracy to kill Kennedy Lake.
50:20
He says, that's false, than Gandolpho, excuse me, that's false,
50:28
Gandolpho, that is false, Yes, Gandolpho, Well that's what Garrison
50:35
said, blake He says, well that he said it. I don't doubt
50:38
that it is true. I deny, Gandolpho, you deny that that's true.
50:45
In other words, Fenton's team did not come back to the committee with
50:47
evidence from Garrison. La He says, no, we talked to Garrison.
50:53
Gandolpho said, oh you did, like he said, sure, but there
50:58
was no evidence that the CIA was involved, Gandolphin. Garrison did not present
51:06
you with that evidence, Blake. He said, Look, I appreciate you
51:09
calling me, but I'm not available for an interrogation, son, Gandolpho.
51:15
No, I'm just and Blake, he says, like, giving you all
51:22
the information, I'm going to Garrison's allegation that the CIA was involved in the
51:28
assassination and that he proved it or offer evidence proving it to the Assassinations Committee
51:34
is false on both grounds. The endolphics on both. Yes, Well,
51:44
I'm just saying what I was told by mister Garrison. Blake, he said,
51:46
well, I don't care what mister Garrison said. Gandolpho. Yeah,
51:52
Well, like he said, I'm just telling you what happened. We talked
51:54
to Garrison. He did not prove the CIA was involved, period. Oh
52:00
you did talk to him, Blake, He said, yes, shit,
52:04
heead, I just told you that two minutes ago. Now, he didn't
52:07
say shit hit, but yes, Gandolpha you mean Fenton's team, right,
52:14
Blakey, Yes, he talked to a number of people, including Garrison,
52:19
Giandolpho. Yes, or well, and of Finton's team, did they report
52:22
any information from Garrison Blakey, Yes, Gandolpho wasn't published. Blakey in part,
52:31
I don't know that everything he said was published, but just about everything
52:35
he said substance of what he said was published. Yes, of what Garrison
52:39
said? Yes, can you recall anything, Blakey, I am not available
52:46
for interrogation son, No, No, I'm merely Hey. Hey, yes,
52:52
the conversation's over with unless you want to ask me another question on another
52:59
subject matter, Gan dolful or all right, Well, I don't know what
53:06
to say, because you know blake He says, well, don't say anything
53:12
else, but goodbye. Then, h I love it. You see you
53:22
go in. I'll prepared and this is what happens you just asked handed to
53:29
your folks. Yeah, and I don't know what Gan Dolphin was trying to
53:35
prove. He even planned to verbat him word for word in his newsletter.
53:38
That he sent out to people like I don't know if he thought that he
53:43
had Blakey in a gotcha kind of moment, but to me it sounded like
53:46
Blakey handed him his ass. After receiving this newsletter, Harold Wisebergh felt impelled
53:55
two right ted, dear ted in your own interest. I must be blunt
54:02
with you or you will make a laughing stock of yourself from coast to coast.
54:09
You hung up when I told you that the CIA's advice to the HSCA
54:14
to disrecard the so called tramp pictures was good advice. This was when I
54:21
told you that Dick Sprague had made up the name Frenchy for one of the
54:23
men in the pictures because the Dick his clothes appeared to be a French cut.
54:30
If you dig out your old copies of Computers and Automation, you'll find
54:34
that Dick himself said this. He said that there will be someone from the
54:38
CIA on the WBAO radio show to be syndicated. If there is, he
54:45
will know the truth and you will be the biggest spectacle your side of the
54:49
Statue of liberty. And as it happens, you can check out some of
54:52
this with Jim Garrison, who should remember this is because there became a time,
54:59
just before the Shawl trial began when he had been booby trapped by Bill
55:02
Boxley, a former CIA named Woods. I worked like hell on it,
55:09
and as his own assistant Shiambra told me for him, saved Jim from a
55:15
real disaster. Part of Boxley's nonsense was these irrelevant pictures. First of all,
55:22
the men were not tramps. That was also Dick's invention. They were
55:28
whinos that they were picked up and walked past the TSBD, had nothing to
55:32
do with the assassination, and it was at least an hour later. They
55:37
were trespassers found in a box car about three blocks away, and the only
55:43
way to walk them out was passed the TSBD. Tho's men have been identified
55:50
as just about everybody except Mohammed Jesus and a couple of his pals. All
55:54
identifications were the imaginings of some so called critic if I remember correctly, and
56:01
Jim should. The first of these made up identifications was that one of the
56:07
men was the Edgar Eugene Bradley, then working for the right wing preacher based
56:13
in New Jersey. I think Mark Lane made that one up frenchie was I
56:17
think by Sprague identified as an lbj's farm manager. I kill you on and
56:24
on, but my only purpose is to protect you from your own stubbornness and
56:28
ignorance, and to keep you from making the CI look good on a coast
56:32
to coast hookup. You just can't go around and accept an unquestionable truth.
56:38
Was somebody else made up? Particularly not when there's a chance that somebody who
56:43
knows what the official investigation shows and there surely was one of those wild imaginings
56:49
who will be in a position to dump on you like you've never imagined.
56:53
I take this time when I should have gone to bed, only to save
56:59
you from yourself. Be stubborn, don't believe me and see what happens.
57:05
That's the eighties equivalent to fuck around and signed out. And I told you
57:12
the truth about how the government works. You may not like it, but
57:15
it's the real world, not whatever you dream up to replace reality. If
57:21
you've ever had any experience in government or watching it carefully, what I told
57:25
you would be obvious. So you can check check me by two phone calls
57:31
to Jim and to Ken Bruton, who, as I told you, phone
57:35
me after Spray was forced off the HCA to tell me that I was Merlin
57:42
remembering the future. Nonetheless, asking the executive agencies questions is normal, and
57:49
for them to reply is also normal. The replies you read me are insight,
57:54
much as you do not like them. Good advice, and you'll really
57:59
be clobered if you go into the other one too. Even if there is
58:04
nobody from the CIA on the show, if there is anyone on the other
58:07
side, you best fear that he'll be primed and ready to take you out.
58:15
Now as we wrap up thankteen eighty nine, Apparently ted Yandolpho had asked
58:27
Harold Wiseberg to set him up with a high ranking media news source because he
58:37
was claiming to have some explosive evidence in the case. Do you Ted As
58:47
you know, I'm not well. This is not one of my better days.
58:52
But when you found to ask for help, I tried to help and
58:54
was able to prevent you to present you with the bestile assistance. If you
59:01
had lived up to your end, I fear that you have jumped to some
59:06
kind of utterly irrational conclusion and did not have the good sense to at least
59:12
speak to me first. In any event, I was unwell enough to lie
59:16
down, having told my wife to wake me if I got a call.
59:22
I'd asked Alcorn to phone me after he spoke to you, and I was
59:27
surprised that he had not. I phoned his office and he'd gone for the
59:30
day. I was also surprised at not having heard from you, so I
59:36
phoned you and you refused to speak to me. No explanation why you have
59:44
phoned me at all times of inconvenient times, But I've never once refused to
59:50
speak to you, as you well know, aside from being impolite, you
59:55
are very irrational. If Alcorn said something to offend you, or if there
1:00:02
was something about him you did not like, you could have told me and
1:00:07
I could have phoned to Woodward. Bob Woodward, he knows me, as
1:00:12
does his former sidekick, and both have in the past caught on me for
1:00:15
help. There were good reasons I didn't go into with you for my asking
1:00:21
Alcorn to do it rather than doing it myself. And it involves a tip
1:00:25
that Woodwary got some years ago and mentioned Alcorn, and about which, as
1:00:31
I told you, he and Alcorn are to meet next week. That he
1:00:37
did not phone me as he said he would, and I asked him in
1:00:38
order to see if I could be of any further help. Leads me to
1:00:43
believe that you blew up at him over something. I knew you can do
1:00:49
such things, because you have told me of doing them. I don't know
1:00:52
whether or not you realize how much I can add to what you were trying
1:00:57
to do, but I as sure as hell. But with any kind of
1:01:00
situation as this, aside from what it would be if Woodward were to do
1:01:06
the story, what the Post would do with it, and would do with
1:01:10
it if it did anything? Have you any idea how many copies Would's books
1:01:15
sell? I have enough to give him to make a book for him,
1:01:21
because I started a book on that subject some years ago and since have obtained
1:01:25
a considerable amount of relevant information. I'm surmising, of course, but I
1:01:30
think of your refusal to speak to me and what you have told me yourself
1:01:35
about yourself. I do thro that you blew up, that it was irrational,
1:01:39
intentional, and that you are your own worst enemy. I'm sorry that
1:01:45
you were able to behave this way, and I'm sorry that, after all
1:01:49
these years, who were able to do so. Sincerely, how so apparently
1:02:04
Wisebergs set up a meeting, let's want this contax to stuff but mouth and
1:02:10
whatever reason, it didn't happen. And now Gandolpho won't even take Wiseberg's phone
1:02:16
calls. I'm not sure what's happening here. And we're into an eighteen ninety
1:02:25
with a special edition of the Assassination USA newsletter by Ted and Dolpho. I
1:02:37
sincerely hope and trusted you my many subscribers, will bear with me at this
1:02:42
time for what I will be, for what I will here relate. Let
1:02:46
me preface it by saying that two months ago my house was broken into while
1:02:51
my wife and I were at a hospital for my bad back. Upon I
1:02:55
return home, we discovered that a bit more than fourteen thousand dollars was stolen,
1:03:00
in addition to approximately forty video and audiotapes. It was obviously the black
1:03:07
back job, which the FBI and CIA are famous for. At any rate,
1:03:15
since we had only a little in our bank, unfortunately, it depleted
1:03:17
our financial savings for the most part. Then, to make a long story
1:03:22
short, I was contacted by my mother who informed me that my younger brother
1:03:27
John had died from the cancer which had sountracted all throughout his body. He
1:03:34
had just turned fifty two. Since we all know of the large cost of
1:03:37
his funeral, and since my mother and I and wife Anita were virtually bereft
1:03:42
of any money to pay for his funeral. With this problem in existence,
1:03:46
I resorted for help to several of my fellow long term JFK researchers. They
1:03:52
came to our assistance magnificently, to say the least. Among those who immediately
1:03:58
sent me anywhere from one hundred to two hundred bucks were Richard Spray, Judge
1:04:04
Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, doctor Cyril Wacht, and Harold Wiseberg. Because
1:04:12
of their financial assistance, I and my mother were able to have my brother
1:04:15
buried in dignity. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to repay any of them
1:04:19
back yet, but I will do so as soon as the needy and I
1:04:21
get back on our feet. I know that by divulging this I may well
1:04:27
cause embarrassment to these friends and colleagues, and I've always felt that the good
1:04:32
deeds of people should be maine down to others, So I beg their forgiveness
1:04:38
should their embarrassment ensue. Now that I've said this, I'd like you all
1:04:43
to know my very personal opinions of these I feel strongly great patriots of this
1:04:48
country. They are indeed patriots because they did not Lemming like and here and
1:04:55
conform to the national security while Irnigeranna was it take. Relating to the events
1:05:00
surrounding the assassination of our beloved President Kennedy in Dallas, Texas, I do
1:05:06
from the twenty second, nineteen sixty three. So we have Gandolfo in the
1:05:16
hospital with a bad back. This house gets broken into by what he terms
1:05:21
as a CI or FBI black back job, where certain things are stolen,
1:05:28
including money and audio and videotapes, and he enlisted. He enlists funds from
1:05:38
his fellow JFK assassination researchers, you know, which is pretty sad that this
1:05:45
guy has no fucking friends other than these random JFK researchers to rely on it
1:05:55
to help him out financially to bury his brother. Wow, I mean that
1:06:05
that in itself. Okay, you've been researching the case for twenty five years
1:06:12
at this point, and you were so engrossed in your life with this thing
1:06:16
that all you have is fellow researchers. But you probably never met all across
1:06:25
the country. You've corresponded with them, and that's who you look to,
1:06:31
that's who you solicit for funds. So by now news of the Oliver Stone
1:06:43
movie being made and coming out is happening, and things are of course dug
1:06:50
up from the past. And we have a rival newsletter called The Investigator,
1:07:01
and I believe it's put out by research named J. G Rowel. And
1:07:06
this article is entitled The Garrison Gan Dolpho Smoking Mirrors Show. I like the
1:07:15
title The Garrison Ken Dolpho Shit Show much better, but here we go.
1:07:26
Ever, since that first electrifying news of Jim Garrison's Kennedy assassination pro flashed around
1:07:30
the world, I had been a staunch advocate of support for the embattled district
1:07:35
attorney. While I did not always agree with his pronouncements or tactics, I
1:07:41
felt it eventually his New Orleans based Kennedy investigation would shed valuable new light on
1:07:45
the murder conspiracy. However, developments in the past several years have changed my
1:07:51
position about mister Garrison. Mister Garrison, I, for one, am still
1:07:59
waiting for mister Garrison to reveal the evidence needed to convictively play shawl in an
1:08:03
open court of law. I will grant, though, that the Shaw case
1:08:08
was a difficult one to prosecute given the restriction that the prosecutor was required to
1:08:14
show genuine evidence. The point is moot now, however, as the Shaw
1:08:19
trial is ancient history and mister Garrison has moved on to Judge Ship and a
1:08:24
new storm on controversy. For it appears that mister Garrison has opened up yet
1:08:29
another smoke and mirror magical losing show with mister ted Gyandolpho to show for him.
1:08:35
The Garrison Gandolfo duo have proclaimed that there exists tape recorded proof of conspiracy,
1:08:43
yet they have failed to provide one shred of actual evidence. Who says
1:08:47
you can't go back to the good old days and what seems like a bad
1:08:51
case of deja vu, I'm reminded of herblock our tune at the front of
1:08:58
a Rosemary James and James wardlaw book plot or Politics the Garrison Case and its
1:09:03
cast. The cartoon, which is entitled New Orleans Strip Joint, depicts the
1:09:09
jolly green giant Jim Garrison, dressed in his underpants, shoes and socks doing
1:09:15
a fan dance undersigns the declare sensational disclosures, who sensational to disclose? And
1:09:25
startling revelations that cannot be revealed. Yes, indeed, tape recorded proof of
1:09:30
conspiracy too sensational to disclose, and two startling to reveal. But let me
1:09:38
start at the beginning of my interest in this particular aspect. Years ago,
1:09:42
I had acquired a tape of mister Gandolfo's Assassination USA radio show. It featured
1:09:47
a conversation with mister Garrison about a tape confession from one of JFK's plotters.
1:09:54
Since I had never seen anything in print about this tape confession, I wrote
1:09:59
the following for November twenty second, nineteen eighty one issue of Penn Jones,
1:10:02
The Continuing Inquiry Newsletter. The source of information about the confession comes by the
1:10:09
way of New Orleans former District Attorney Jim Garrison. This important tape confession and
1:10:16
the possibility of a cover up in the New Orleans end of the JFK investigation
1:10:20
were the topics of discussion between Garrison and broadcaster Tech Gandolpho in a February nineteen
1:10:27
seventy eight telephone conversation about Blakey. Blakey, as you'll recall, was appointed
1:10:32
to the Chief Council slot of the HSCA in June of seventy seven, and
1:10:38
by February seventy eight, his tactics were beginning to show through. The following
1:10:45
excerpts were taken from the conversation between Garrison and Gandolpho as they centered in when
1:10:49
the solid progress made by the New Orleans Field investigators and the lack of response
1:10:55
by Blakey on the progress that they made. Garrison, please emphasize, no,
1:11:03
I'm not gonna do Garrison voice. Please emphasize because I'm well aware of
1:11:09
the discrimination the national media has done. So please emphasize that my inclination has
1:11:15
been not to get into the act, that I don't seek publicity, that
1:11:19
I'm leaning over backwards, not to but I'm well aware of the developments here
1:11:25
because I've turned over so much material. We went far beyond the Shaw case.
1:11:30
That was just an incident. We were right there, but went far
1:11:33
beyond that, and the material off turned over to these men. They have
1:11:38
gone far beyond where we went, and I have been astonished as the months
1:11:43
passed and silence comes from Washington. They have meetings in which they're specifically discussing
1:11:49
the assassination with Shaw and Ferry president the details. Gandolpho, are you talking
1:11:57
about Perry Raymond Rooster thing? Garrison? No. Since then, they've gone
1:12:03
beyond that into new areas we hadn't reached yet. We had the right people,
1:12:08
hope we didn't have all their meetings. They have a fucking confession from
1:12:14
one of the guys participating in the meetings as an accessory on tape hours dates
1:12:20
places trips to Dallas in preparation. It's corroborated by a thousand things that I've
1:12:26
sent up. Why haven't they taken a deposition from him? In these months?
1:12:30
They've left him available to be killed? Gandolfo the person in the banister
1:12:35
office Garrison, yeah, Gandolfo, Yeah, I think I know who you
1:12:41
mean. I think he may be Jerrison WHOA. Let's not guess over the
1:12:46
phone because it may be monitored. But the point is they just leave him
1:12:50
available to be killed. As the months passed and they don't take his deposition.
1:12:56
Garrison not only attended meetings in which they plan and the assassination in detail,
1:13:00
they even sent him on a trip to Dallas just before the assassination to
1:13:08
give to a meet with one of the other people involved, and to give
1:13:11
him maps and photographs. Garrison, well, at least if they kill him,
1:13:15
they'll hurt themselves because it's all on tape now, and they'll be hard
1:13:21
They'll be hard put to ignore what's on tape of a man that's been killed.
1:13:28
So in light of the above conversation and the fact that the existence of
1:13:31
the confession tapes has never been publicly acknowledged, then it would appear as though
1:13:36
a person could reasonably draw one of the following conclusions. A the confession tape
1:13:43
doesn't exist in the former New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's lying, I personally
1:13:48
do not believe that mister Garrison is lying. B that the confession tape does
1:13:54
exist. And then a thorough Ahency investigation of the matter has led to the
1:13:58
conclusion that there is no truth in the confession or see, the confession tape
1:14:04
does exist, and that has been suppressed by Blakey. A smug Blakey has
1:14:12
stated, I'll wrest on the historian's judgment. Fifty years from now, when
1:14:15
everything becomes available, I'll rest on the historical judgment that has made on us.
1:14:20
In fifty years since the article appeared in nineteen eighty one, mister Garrison
1:14:27
has been silent on the matter, while mister Gandolpho has continued to beat one
1:14:30
drum of CIA conspiracy on mister Garrison's behalf. I have waited for approximately nine
1:14:38
years for evidence to surface from either mister Garrison or Gandolpho to prove any of
1:14:43
their claims. This weight has been in vain in spite of the fact that
1:14:47
mister Garrison has subsequently written an article for Freedom Magazine entitled The Murder Talents of
1:14:54
the CIA and a hardcover book called On the Trail of the Assassins, while
1:15:00
mister Gandolpho has written hisself published The Householic Committee on Assassination's cover Up. As
1:15:06
I understand the situation as it exists at this time, there are supposedly at
1:15:12
least two tapes in the possession of the HSCA. Both were allegedly in the
1:15:15
custody of Cliff Senton, who allegedly passed them to Blakey. The first tape
1:15:20
allegedly consists of a confession given by Jim Hicks during the ill fated Shawl Crobe.
1:15:27
According to mister Gandolpho, Jim Hicks testified to the grand jury that he
1:15:32
was a signal operator to the assassins that day. He further stated that Jim
1:15:38
Garrison gave the tape to the Agencia and he retained no copies. The second
1:15:43
tape, allegedly or conversations of the actual plotters planning the daily plans assassination.
1:15:49
Not much as known about their origin or how they came to be in Jim
1:15:53
Garrison's possession, but Gandolpho claims, yes, I heard the plotter's tapes with
1:15:59
Garrison, and no, I don't have copies. Blakie put them in the
1:16:02
National Archives and pover up. Gandolpho wrote, they Cliff Fenton's five man team
1:16:11
secured tape recorded conversations which in which the assassination of President Kennedy was being discussed
1:16:16
by, among others, people whose voices were identified as being contract employees of
1:16:20
the Central Intelligence Agency. Gandolpho stated in November of nineteen eighty six on the
1:16:28
WPLP radio show that the voices on the tapes belonged to Clay Shaw, David
1:16:33
Ferry, William Seymour, Emilio Santana, Jack Lawrence, fred Leye, Chrisman,
1:16:41
Jim Hicks, Jim Braden, etc. Hey. Now here's the rub.
1:16:46
According to Gandolpho, Jim Garrison gave the tapes to the federal government and
1:16:51
did not retain any copies. Are we to believe that Jim Garrison had tapes
1:16:57
that could provide undeniable proof of a spiracy and that he didn't make any copies,
1:17:02
especially since mister Garrison has expressed this disdain and distrust of the federal government
1:17:08
all these years. Are we to believe that Techiendolfo listened to these tapes with
1:17:12
mister Garrison, it made no effort to secure a copy of these for his
1:17:16
vast audio tape collections. Perhaps the day will come when the actual tape recording
1:17:23
service improved beyond the shadow of doubt that they really do exist. But until
1:17:28
that day comes, the Garrison and Gandolpho claims will have to remain just another
1:17:32
smoke and mirror show. Interesting. Interesting, Now, So those listeners to
1:17:46
my show who have been listening for quite a while, going back to almost
1:17:51
a rare beginning, you know the story of mister Thomas Beckham. Thomas Beckham
1:18:03
was a New Orleans witness justified in the grand jury didn't really say much then,
1:18:13
and I got a pissing match with Jim Garrison about something really insignificant,
1:18:21
and it's kind of shuffled around. Now, fast forward to the HSCA investigation.
1:18:31
When Beckham was interviewed by investigators from the HSCA, he told a completely
1:18:38
different story than what he told Garrison in nineteen sixty seven. What he told
1:18:45
investigators for the HSCA lines up very well with what Garrison claims to have audio
1:18:55
tapes up. Beckham goes into a meeting at g Raydale's office with several of
1:19:03
the conspirators. He also goes into the fact that they sent him to Dallas
1:19:13
with maps and pictures to meet with Lawrence Howard, who was another one of
1:19:21
the alleged participants in the assassination of JFK. What is never mentioned by this
1:19:30
guy Gandolfo or Garrison is the name Thomas Beckham. Now would be pretty cool
1:19:43
if Garrison had said who gave him these tapes, but he doesn't say that
1:19:50
it was Beckham, which means maybe it wasn't. I don't know, I'm
1:19:58
just guessing. I'm just saying that that comes story that he relates to the
1:20:02
HSCA matches up with what Garrison said was on the tapes. So now we
1:20:14
move on. July third, nineteen ninety one, Ted Gandolfo called me this
1:20:20
morning for the first time in two years. If there was a special purpose
1:20:26
in his call, I didn't really perceive it. He is pissed off at
1:20:30
Oliver Stone and his movie, and he quotes Garrison is somewhat disenchanted. He
1:20:36
had not seen any of the critical newspaper accounts, but heard of George Lardner's
1:20:42
story and referred to it as good, citing Sprague as his source. He
1:20:46
says that Garrison told him he has little or no input, that Stone wants
1:20:50
people to stay away from him, and that the plot is at best indecisive
1:20:56
or whatever this means, you can take it either way. He has told
1:21:00
him he would send Ted a copy of the script. That hasn't. In
1:21:03
fact, he'd not heard from Garrison for some time. The last time was
1:21:09
when he arranged for Ted to let Stone have a dub of a tape conversation
1:21:12
with Garrison. Stone told Ted he would be using only Garrison's voice from it.
1:21:18
In that conversation, Ted says Stone told him that Paul Hawk, Jerry
1:21:21
Rose, and Rupert Grody were hired one as consultants. Stone also wanted to
1:21:28
tape two hounds of sounds and emotions, supposedly immediately after the shots. The
1:21:34
only one I remember is not genuine. Ted says he has done a two
1:21:40
hundred and twenty part videotape history of the case and that PBS is interested in
1:21:45
it. He says it and wn ET offered him fifteen hundred dollars for it,
1:21:50
and he demanded three thousand, both very low for any serious TV uses.
1:21:58
He has heard from Mark Lane about Lane's finally arranging for the publication of
1:22:01
a book he wrote on a case in which he defended Willis Carto and spotlight
1:22:06
I Think against the suit by E. Howard Hunt. It is currently titled
1:22:12
Reasonable Denial and is to be published by Loudmouth Press. Ted is to get
1:22:18
a copy of the uncorrected manuscript and the book. Lanston might never sent me
1:22:25
a copy of Garrison's book, after telling me the Garrison had given him copies
1:22:29
for which one was for me. Ted says he thought he had sent me
1:22:33
a copy, still has it and will send one last time. I heard
1:22:38
from him is when that book appeared. Harold Wiseberg, that was just a
1:22:44
note to himself. Sometimes he find these notes to himself in the Wiseberg files,
1:22:56
July ninety one, dear Ted, I'd expected to hear from you by
1:23:01
now on hating the tapes. As I indicated, I think there are possibilities
1:23:06
you did not refer to. But as I'm sure I said, it has
1:23:11
all begun, it all has to do. It all has to begin with
1:23:15
validating them. This means, among other things, being able to establish how
1:23:19
your mister X came to have them. You and him should expect to be
1:23:25
doubted for reasons we both know well and from experiences of the past. So
1:23:30
before I do anything else, I have to be satisfied about their authenticity and
1:23:34
how they got from Fritz to your mister X. The pony of the Pony
1:23:40
Express you are using to get that copy of Garrison's book to me must be
1:23:44
older than I am best. Harold Wiseberg. Yes, if I do not
1:23:51
hear from him after making it clear, I guess this is a note to
1:23:55
himself. If I do not hear from him after making it clear that authentication
1:24:00
is essential. The possible explanations included there is no authentication, and that he
1:24:04
was trying to set me up for Garrison for revenge. He and Garrison were
1:24:09
close at the same time. It never did make sense that Fritz would question
1:24:14
Oswald about killing JFK and not have a record he can use if he got
1:24:19
a confession later retracted. So I had suspected that Fritz had indeed taped Oswald's
1:24:30
interrogation secretly. Now what we're referring to now, ted Gandolpho claims to have
1:24:45
or claims he can get, claims to have heard a secretly recorded by homicide
1:24:59
chief. I'm aside will Fritz and that he had secretly recorded Oswald's interrogations,
1:25:06
and he knows someone that has a copy of the secret recordings, which would
1:25:16
be explosive if true. I mean, imagine, imagine it, folks.
1:25:26
I mean, that's like the holy Grail of the case right there, for
1:25:30
sure. July nine, nineteen ninety one. Dear Harold, this is extremely
1:25:38
important, Infoe, and I think you better. I think you know better
1:25:42
than most what to do with it. To wit, I was informed last
1:25:46
night at the tapes of twelve hours of Oswald's interrogations, which were secretly recorded
1:25:54
by Dallas Captain Will Fritz will be released soon by someone who had direct copies
1:26:00
of them, whose name obviously cannot be revealed at this time. I don't
1:26:04
recall if I mentioned this fact of their recordings to you before. I seem
1:26:09
to recollect that I once did. I was originally assured that I myself was
1:26:13
to be given them by mister Eds, but he is reneged on this for
1:26:16
his own reasons, So with them, I was going to call it New
1:26:20
York Press Club conference and play some of it, etc. I was also
1:26:25
told that these tapes were in the hands of several people for safety's sake,
1:26:30
which I can easily understand. I have been up practically the whole night thinking
1:26:36
which researcher could provide the best nationwide publicity when this event occurs, and I
1:26:43
have decided, after much thought, indeed, that you, Harold, should
1:26:47
be the one to do it. Obviously, when this story breaks, its
1:26:51
repercussions will be devastating, to say the least, but I thought that with
1:26:57
your media connections, you can best inform them this development so that it can
1:27:00
be handled the right way. Although I obviously cannot say too much about this
1:27:05
development. If you know anyone, which I'm sure you do, who wants
1:27:09
to talk to me about it, they can reach me at the above phone
1:27:12
number or address. Think it over, because this will be epic dynamite.
1:27:17
I'll defer to you this on this one. Harold, Okay, hey,
1:27:23
yours in struggle head. Now at this point, folks, Harold Wiseberg has
1:27:32
been You've been burned a few times by your boy tied, so I think
1:27:40
he's stepping into this very carefully. But you know, when you dangle a
1:27:45
big enough carrot in front of that mule, a big orange piece of dynamite
1:27:54
carrot, you know of what could be, if true, the actual secretly
1:28:01
taped recordings of the Oswald interrogation. That would be freaking epic to have.
1:28:09
But as I said before, wild Bird is not a stupid man. You're
1:28:14
ted It was July eleventh, anyone. I remember your phone calls about these
1:28:19
recordings of the Dallas Police Oswald interviews of several years ago, better than you
1:28:26
remember any of your promises to send me a copy of Garrison's book, the
1:28:30
most recent only a few days ago. I remember also that you blew the
1:28:34
introduction out of Arrange to you, And there's tapes by not listening to me
1:28:39
when I told you that your demands some money would defeat you, and it
1:28:43
did. I know Bob Woodward, but I arranged a better connection for you.
1:28:47
Then he'll remember and won't talk about it now. So he's out bad
1:28:53
because he is in charge of the Washington Post investigative reporting. He would have
1:28:58
been the best. In recent years. I've lost most of my contacts with
1:29:01
the media. George Lardner of the Post, you won't like because Garrison did
1:29:05
not like his reporting, and when I was informing him to expose the House
1:29:10
Assassin's Committee, you roll up on them. I don't know if he'd be
1:29:15
interested, or if the Post is now keeping too busy on stories that are
1:29:20
exposing the CIA to get interested if he wanted to. We disagree from time
1:29:26
to time, but we know each other fairly well, and he knows more
1:29:29
about the jfk assassination than any reporter I know. There's a problem to begin
1:29:33
with that. If I were to make any effort to get those tapes and
1:29:36
your mister X, any attention would have to be addressed up front, establishing
1:29:42
their authenticity From most reporters. That would begin by your mister X explaining in
1:29:47
a way that will accept about how he came to possess these tapes. I
1:29:54
recall some of the things you told me about them when you started phoning me
1:29:57
about them from Michigan. This is probably because if they are genuine, they
1:30:00
are at least as important, as your letter says. If he can't do
1:30:04
that, you and he should expect skepticism to begin with, even if they
1:30:09
are genuine. Some of the things you would heard Oswald say, like the
1:30:13
names of people in agencies with whom he was connected, intend to give credibility
1:30:19
to the tapes, but also to be faked and the tapes made up.
1:30:24
And some reporters may wonder or believe they have to be skeptical, as do
1:30:28
their papers or other parties of the media. If they were used and turned
1:30:34
out not to be genuine, all the media will begin by understanding they'd be
1:30:39
in trouble and would be hurt. I can think of some things that can
1:30:43
be done, but first I have to be satisfied about their genuineness, and
1:30:46
not just that you think they're genuine. If they are not the real thing
1:30:50
and are used, they will also undermine even more the credibility of all criticism
1:30:56
of the official mythology. If they are not the real thing, I have
1:31:00
to think of my own reputation, too. So let's begin by establishing by
1:31:04
an hard fact that they are genuine, and how mister X has them.
1:31:11
Sincerely, how that's kind of important, don't you think you know? A
1:31:23
little Later in the month July ninety one, dear ted, I've just received
1:31:31
two undated clippings from the New Orleans Times, pecume copies enclosed. One says
1:31:38
that Garrison has been hospitalized for about two weeks, beginning on July ninth.
1:31:43
It has a picture of him in which he looks terrible, to be deathly
1:31:46
sick. That picture was taken only a few days after you told me he
1:31:50
was fine, that you've been in touch with him, and he told you
1:31:54
that he'd had pneumonia, but i'd gotten over it. I asked you how
1:31:58
he is because i'd seeved an unconformed report that he has cancer. Your misrepresentation
1:32:04
brings into questions several other things. I think you should explain, but frankly,
1:32:09
I don't expect you to. When I had asked you how Jim is,
1:32:13
you'd phoned after you'd phoned to offer me alleged tapes of Will Fritz's questioning
1:32:17
of Oswald. He then told me that only I among critics could use them
1:32:23
most effectively. You also claim not to remember whether or not we've spoken about
1:32:28
those tapes before, when, in fact, beginning when you said you were
1:32:33
in Michigan listening to them, we'd had a number of conversations about them.
1:32:38
When you phone me to discuss them, among other things, that makes me
1:32:44
wonder whether or not you're up to some kind of trick. But remembering also
1:32:47
that you've been seriously ill, I did not assume that you had to be
1:32:53
up to something. I then wrote to you and said that before I do
1:32:57
anything, I'd have to have their genuineness confirmed. When I heard nothing,
1:33:01
I wrote you again and again, and you did not respond. This does
1:33:08
suggest that either you that, either on your own or on behalf of someone
1:33:12
else, you were trying to booby trap me. I believe that if you
1:33:15
knew these tapes for valid, you'd not be sitting on him or offering their
1:33:20
use to anyone else. The last time we spoke, I reminded you that
1:33:26
you'd told me before Garrison's book appeared, that he told you he'd send you
1:33:30
twenty copies, and from them you were to send me one. I then
1:33:34
wondered why he did not have the publisher do that. But whatever, you
1:33:40
must have told me twenty times that you were going to send me a copy
1:33:45
once that Anita forgot to mail it, and you never sent it. The
1:33:47
last time you phoned, I reminded you, but you said you'd send me
1:33:50
one of the four you have and didn't because, as Jim knows, publishers
1:33:56
do send copies for authors. I believe Jim, in fact it did not
1:34:00
want me to have a copy, and your besinny of you are confirmed that
1:34:02
belief. But then I was learned to copy. I read it and knew
1:34:06
very well that Jim did not want me to read it or seeing anything about
1:34:10
it. I was involved in some things about which you know nothing, but
1:34:14
Jim knows very well. He lies about them in the book. What he
1:34:18
was not about to tell you is that I saved him several times from worst
1:34:21
disaster than he suffered. I do not expect you to believe it, and
1:34:27
I'm not going to take the time to prove it to you. But he
1:34:30
was going to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary, or I'm sorry, that's fifth the
1:34:35
anniversary of the JFK assassination by among other things, charging Robert Perrin, who
1:34:43
had killed himself in New Orleans in nineteen sixty two, with being a nineteen
1:34:48
sixty three grassy No assassin. This is why he fired to Bill Boxley,
1:34:56
who had gone out and made up proof for him. I have copies of
1:35:00
the work I did, and some of the investigations made for me by his
1:35:02
own staff investigators that he should have had make them and didn't because he knew
1:35:09
very well that he'd made this whole thing up. That time with the Shaw
1:35:14
case before the Supreme Court, one of the staff lawyers told me whether or
1:35:16
not it is true that I'd saved Jim from being disbarred by the Supreme Court,
1:35:23
if I had ever intended doing them any harm, do you think I'd
1:35:27
have been silent about this, about what goes with it, and about other
1:35:31
such incredible adventures that would have done legitimate criticism of the assassination investigation so much
1:35:38
harm. What Jim made up himself he blamed on the CIA. He said
1:35:44
it had infiltrated Boxley under his own staff to do this kind of thing to
1:35:47
him, when in fact Jim. It was Jim Garrison Pursley who hired Bill
1:35:53
Boxley over the strong objections of his assistants. I have the memos on it,
1:35:59
so you can believe me or not. So if you have any self
1:36:01
respect or personal honesty left, you will explain yourself. If you don't,
1:36:06
then for the record, as lawyers say, that will speak for itself as
1:36:11
well. Boom, all right. The one thing you just don't want to
1:36:16
do is fuck with Harold Wiseberg. I mean, you think people would know
1:36:21
that by now not all people are monsters, Okay, And as we progress
1:36:33
here, you'll see in this next letter that you know, even Harold Wiseberg
1:36:44
has a soft spot in his heart for human beings, other humans, despite
1:36:50
what they've said or done to them in the past. At this point,
1:36:56
they've had a twenty five year relationship of writing back and forth carrying information,
1:37:01
and even though Ted has fucked Harold over with bullshit, you know, time
1:37:09
after time after time again, you'll see that the actual humanity that Harold Wiseberg
1:37:19
possesses. When once again Tay Gandolfo snowballs Harold Wiseberg. Fast forward to March
1:37:32
nineteen ninety two. You're Harold, Thank you kindly for the very nice things
1:37:40
you wrote to Anita regarding me about It's appreciated. We've received quite a few
1:37:46
orders for myself produced eighteen hour videotaped history of the JFK case has advertised in
1:37:53
Cutler's Grassy Nool newsletter, so it will greatly help. Anita is paying for
1:37:58
my funeral. I was told by doctors that I have two months to go
1:38:02
at the most, so I taught Anita how to make copies of the eighteen
1:38:08
hours sets as like yourself. I've received quite a few letters of sympathy from
1:38:12
many subscribers and colleagues like you, Lane, Polakov, Sprague Mars, even
1:38:17
Jean Hill. Well, Harold, I've always thought that it's not that that
1:38:24
important when you go, but rather what one does whilst he is here that
1:38:29
really counts. I received a two page letter from Stokes answering my letter to
1:38:33
him, r e him and others releasing the HSCA files and the CIA FBI
1:38:40
doing the same. Of course, you're quite wise enough to know that when
1:38:44
and if they do, they're not ever going to release anything at all which
1:38:47
might be detrimental to themselves. That's a given. Obviously, nothing that might
1:38:54
in the least incriminate them in anything, so all we'll probably get is going
1:38:59
to be other either manufactured documents and obviously finally much insanitized or censor materials at
1:39:05
best. Dick Spragge has written to also tell me that Stone is going to
1:39:12
do a sequel to JFK and then he'll go into the HSCA investigation, etc.
1:39:18
So since I won't be around by then, I'm preparing a package of
1:39:23
tapes and my HSCA cover up book and other important documents I'll have so he'll
1:39:30
give them to Oliver Stone for the next movie. I do have some good
1:39:33
stuff there, too bad I can't see it when it comes out. Oh
1:39:36
well, I guess one can't have everything, right. I hope this letter
1:39:42
finds you and yours and as good mouth as possible. My right kidney is
1:39:46
killing me from the extremely uncontrollable diabetes I have, which is doing me in
1:39:54
anyway. Just wanted to thank you for your letter to Anita and also most
1:39:59
assuredly for our friendship to and fro through the years. May you in the
1:40:02
Missis stay as well as you can. Please say hello to her from me
1:40:06
and Anita. Thanks friend for everything and God bless you best regards head and
1:40:14
Anita. So Gandolpho has just told Harold Wiseberg he's got it best two months
1:40:25
to go. Apparently he's in the last stage of kidney failure. So Harold
1:40:36
writes back, dear ted. As trite as it seems, and no matter
1:40:43
what the odds, it remains true. They're where there is life, there
1:40:46
is hope. So let us hope for the miracle your doctors do not expect.
1:40:56
I could have died from the first venus from bosis I had in nineteen
1:41:00
seventy five. I could have died from the mistakes made when I had a
1:41:04
plastic artery placed in my left eigh. I almost did twice. The second
1:41:11
time. The surgeons working until two am had not expected me to survive,
1:41:15
as they told me the next day. There were two emergency operations after the
1:41:19
insertion of the plastic artery. The local cardiologists did not tell me what he
1:41:25
told my family doctor that he did not expect me to live through the open
1:41:29
heart surgery that I had in nineteen eighty nine. But I did sure.
1:41:33
I was lucky. I still hope I'll continue to be this lucky because I
1:41:38
was just told that I've had three small strokes. So however long the odds
1:41:45
continue, to hope, you lose nothing by it. You are as prepared
1:41:49
as you can be. Try to live as close to normal life as you
1:41:54
can with the time you have left. I know what that means. I've
1:41:58
been on barred time for many years. I do not mean to suggest that
1:42:02
all medical problems are alike in this, and obviously they're not. But I
1:42:06
do make the most of each day, and it does not hurt a bit
1:42:14
to think of the good things we've done. So despite what you say,
1:42:19
I do, my friend, hope for a miracle for you, sincerely now
1:42:32
Yeahandolpho's obituary had appeared in the March third, nineteen three issue of Paul Hawk's
1:42:41
journal Echoes of Conspiracy. I confided his readers to send expressions of sympathy for
1:42:46
donations to the late researcher's widow, Anita Jagio Gandolpho. In a recent letter,
1:42:56
Anita Kiazo Kyagio confirmed her husband's passing. M So miraculously, folks.
1:43:21
A month after passing, Ted Gandolphin was resurrected in April of ninety three.
1:43:36
Copies to Lane Wext Wiseberg. Hello gents, Yes, I'm still alive.
1:43:45
I had to circulate the quote news that I died so as to provide anonymity
1:43:49
for myself so that I could travel to somewhere to see some people attaining to
1:43:54
an important aspect of the JFK case you'll no doubt be hearing about in the
1:43:58
near future. Oh it was worth it, Okay, okay, I just
1:44:02
thought you might want to read from an undated but very recent new newsletter that
1:44:06
is making us rounds across the country. M So somebody of course sent Harold
1:44:20
does even though he got his own copy. Who says it's Carold? Is
1:44:25
this Ted g for real? This is Cyril Wick? I wrote a letter
1:44:30
of condolence to his wife a year or so ago. What do you know
1:44:34
about his rigged demise, Cyril? I mean, there's not much more get
1:44:47
to your things that you can do to your friend friends, then fake your
1:45:04
own death. I mean, what the fuck? And what spurned his resurrection
1:45:19
was Apparently Ted Gandolpho had finally seen the article we read earlier about the Garrison
1:45:28
Gandolpho smoking mirror show that somebody had finally forwarded to him, and he penned
1:45:36
a letter directly to mister G. W. Rowell, the editor of The
1:45:43
Investigator, an open letter and rebuttal to J. G Row's article by Ted
1:45:50
Gandolpho. Mister Rowell, I have today received a portion of your undated Investigator
1:45:58
newsletter which includes a four page section entitled to Garrison Gandolfo's Smoke and Mirror Show.
1:46:04
Since this article represents a rather obvious attack on Garrison, who is now
1:46:08
dead and cannot answer, and myself who can, I think that in the
1:46:13
interest of fairness about this, my rebuttal to your article be published in your
1:46:16
next newsletter to it. Upon recently release meeting your article, I discovered several
1:46:26
inaccuracies in it which I'm compelled to rebut since these inaccuracies have the effect of
1:46:31
contradicting us B and G, as well as putting into question our veracity,
1:46:38
a point by point rebuttal follows, so he goes down through this. For
1:46:45
instance, on the first page of your article, you state, mister Garrison
1:46:47
has opened yet another smoke and mirror magic illusion show with take Gandolfo to show
1:46:53
for him well, if assisting a man who conducted the only truthful investigation pretending
1:46:59
to the fascination as being in your terminology. As shill, I'll simply take
1:47:03
it from where it comes and proudly rested on my laurels. You stated that
1:47:11
I have quote waited for approximately nine years for evidence to surface from either mister
1:47:15
Garrison or Gandolpho to prove that any of their claims are real. Question since,
1:47:23
as mentioned above, this material has been suppressed in the National Archives for
1:47:26
fifty years and are inaccessible to anyone, how can you blame us for our
1:47:31
inability to prove any of our claims? Again, if you had explosive evidence
1:47:41
on tape of a conspiracy by the conspirators, you'd think you'd make a copy
1:47:46
of that ship before you handed it over to the federal government to put in
1:47:50
the National Archives. Just say it, and he goes on and on in
1:47:58
a two page rant. But this is what resurrected ted Yandolpho. Now we're
1:48:14
up to nineteen ninety four, folks. Dear Harold, I have just today
1:48:21
received your letter in which you are quite pissed off or something I know absolutely
1:48:27
fucking nothing about. I let him need to read it too, and we
1:48:30
both think you've been sent that you have sent me a letter which I never
1:48:33
received. You may, but you may that I to respond to the simple
1:48:42
questions I asked you about radio talk shows that might use my response to Posner
1:48:49
and his dishonest book. That's what you just now wrote me, Harold.
1:48:55
I never received any letter from you regarding this at all, So we agree
1:49:00
that you must have sent me a letter about this which I've never received,
1:49:05
or which your failing memory has eluded you. That you wrote me a letter
1:49:13
but you never actually did or never actually sent. You should know me better
1:49:17
to know that if I had received since a letter from you, I would
1:49:20
have done that which you asked me to do immediately and undeniably. Such is
1:49:27
my immense respect for you, sir. But again, I never received that
1:49:32
letter from you at all, so I couldn't naturally understand what you now wrote
1:49:36
me about obviously, if regarding this what you wrote me that I never received.
1:49:42
But anyway, if you still need my help in whatever matter, if
1:49:46
you still need me, please let me know as soon as possible, and
1:49:49
I guarantee you that I will do my best to assist you with a herald.
1:49:54
I know that something on mail has been fucked with as I'm sending out
1:49:57
tapes in a book to many people who have are ordering them from me,
1:50:01
and then I get letters saying they they ever received that which I definitely sent
1:50:05
them. So I guess you can credit the FBI for doing this to me.
1:50:11
Please let me know what you request from me, and I want me
1:50:14
to recomply. Okay, okay, Please also and your hopefully soon letters me
1:50:19
explaining what I wrote. Asked you about are you the news that I and
1:50:26
then Needa heard on radio and TV? What about this news story about James
1:50:30
are already getting a new trial. I'd be most appreciative of you. Let
1:50:33
me know what you know about the story we have just recently heard about.
1:50:39
Hoping to hear from you, I remain sincerely yours, Ted. After receiving
1:50:54
this and a little bit that I wrote before about the little note from erro
1:51:00
Wet about Ted Gandolpho is amazing resurrection and May of ninety three, Harold wrote
1:51:11
Cyri Wect and said, Dear Cyril, it is the real Ted Gandolfo.
1:51:17
Only he would conceive of such a stunt with such an invalid reason for it.
1:51:24
I did not respond to his offerer of a free VCR. There was
1:51:27
no flyer in what he sent me, And this is apparent that we've heard
1:51:30
nothing about his major event. If we hear, I doubt it will be
1:51:34
even cunnible. However, he is not capable of producing an all inclusive total
1:51:42
history of the JFK assassination. The last time he made such a big claim,
1:51:48
he said he'd hurt eight hours of what Fritz recorded when he interviewed Oswald
1:51:55
that amounted to nothing. He told me he had the tapes in a bank
1:52:00
box in New York and again provided and produced nothing. Do I have to
1:52:06
ask what kind of person pretends he is in terminal illness and then died,
1:52:13
if I recall correctly first asking for money for his wife. Maybe we'll hear
1:52:18
further from him about this. Maybe not. We'll see, and for your
1:52:23
information only, I took a selection of livingstones menacing letters to the State's Attorney's
1:52:27
office, spoke to and gave them to an assistant. He thought they were
1:52:31
He thought there might be violations of federal laws and some of them, and
1:52:35
I am to hear further after she reads them and then talks to her boss.
1:52:41
My hunch is that while he has violated the Maryland Code, they will
1:52:45
be unwilling to prosecute because it involves a so called writer and a so called
1:52:49
book. He was to have turned those manuscripts in three weeks ago. I'm
1:53:00
reusing clear sided paper, discarded pages, hundreds of them of the new book.
1:53:05
In fact, I drafted the whole thing on such paper. Maybe save
1:53:11
a bit of oil, if not a tree, maybe some branches. Best
1:53:16
wishes here to which was included attention a special addition to his news letter and
1:53:28
Ted Gandolfo. Ted Gaindolfo produces historic, all inclusive twenty two hour videotape complete
1:53:35
twenty eight year history of the JFK assassination available to you all at a very
1:53:41
low cost. As the acknowledged master with the JFK Assassination, I have recently
1:53:49
self produced the only complete, all inclusive history twenty eight year videotaped history of
1:53:55
this case, consisting of eight sections. They are November twenty second through twenty
1:54:01
four sixty three. Two The actually witnesses to the assassination tell what they saw
1:54:08
and heard. Three The Warren Report and its critics. Four the Jim Garrison
1:54:14
Investigation. Five The HSCA Assassination's investigation and its critics. Six David Listen,
1:54:20
David Lifton, and Bob Scroton. Bob Grodon's evidence of Pete or Phony autopsy
1:54:30
photos and X rays seven September nineteen ninety The Ricky White Story eight, The
1:54:36
media's attacks against Oliver Stone and his JFK movie. I am making this never
1:54:43
done before, complete, all inclusive, total historic JFK assassination twenty two hour
1:54:47
videotaped in color documentary available to all for the very low cost of only sixty
1:54:54
five dollars. Please send check her money order payable to my wife. I
1:54:58
need again. Indolpho blah blah blah. Remember truth is power. You'll treasure
1:55:03
these videotapes for years to call Hey and then Pro Magazine nineteen This is August
1:55:24
nineteen ninety three Pro Magazine. Lee Harvey Oswald admitted his employment by the Office
1:55:30
of Naval Intelligence and Other Espionage Agencies or SO claims formerly deceased researcher at Gandolpho.
1:55:42
Gandolpho made his assertions on Roy Tuckman's Something's Happening Program, broadcast June thirteenth,
1:55:47
nineteen ninety three on Los Angeles radio station KPFK, a Pacific affiliate.
1:55:56
According to Giandolpho, Captain Will Fritz of the Dallas Police secretly recorded Oswald the
1:56:00
entire fourteen hours of Oswald's interrogation and then suppressed the tapes. Two assassination researchers
1:56:10
reportedly now possessed these tapes and will make them available at a major press conference
1:56:15
on November twenty second, nineteen ninety three. Every tree in the forest will
1:56:20
fall in Daffo and also says, speaking on the same program a week earlier,
1:56:28
Robert Groden also referred to the secret Oswald's confessions. According to Groten,
1:56:33
a right winger has possessed these important recordings for a number of years. Dallas
1:56:44
police have always insisted that they neither recorded the interview or took notes. Although
1:56:49
he has not heard the tapes himself, but Old Wiseberg that he did.
1:56:56
Gandolfo reports that Oswald admitted he was in the office, was enabled intelligent intelligence,
1:57:01
that he was a CIA contract employee with the number one one zero six
1:57:08
sixty nine, and then he was a paid SBI's former who was paid two
1:57:12
hundred dollars a month with the number SI or SASH one seven two Yeah.
1:57:24
Gandolfo also played a telephone interview with the late Jim Garrison, in which Garrison
1:57:30
reported that HSCA researchers had attained a confession from a participant in preassassination planning meetings.
1:57:38
Garrison felt it revealing this new information would get the investigators here who are
1:57:43
communicating with me, in trouble and that they would get fired. I wish
1:57:47
I could tell you how far they've gone, the progress they've made. It's
1:57:51
past conspiracy, it's past prima facia. It's solid evidence on tape. But
1:57:58
Blakey seems to have gotten hot in his ears. According to Garrison, a
1:58:01
JCA investigator, Cliff Finton, had procurity taped confession from a participant in a
1:58:08
preassassination planning meeting. Lakey, Garrison charge suppressed this evidence. Gandolfo cold the
1:58:18
KPFK audience that they confessed assassination accomplice was named Thomas Beckham. According to Gandolpho,
1:58:31
Beckham had provided Finton with maps of the daily Pleasant Plaza firing zones and
1:58:38
the names of the conspirators, which included convicted Watergate burglar Frank Sturgis. Gandolpho
1:58:45
reports to Beckham, acting under CIA auspices, sat in on a conspiratorial meeting
1:58:51
held in New Orleans. I'm sorry, held a no name key in the
1:58:55
Florida Everglades. Other participants in these meetings allegedly included ready for this folks,
1:59:02
Harry Dean, Richard Kase, Niguel Emilio Santana, Jack Lawrence Quote a crack
1:59:10
shot from the West Coast, and Jim Hicks. After Fenton submitted his reports
1:59:18
like he assigned two men to take Beckham's testimony. They scared him to death,
1:59:24
said Gandolfo. They made him keep backtracking and backtracking. He knew that
1:59:29
he was in hostile territory. In Yeah, Let's see the assassination. Archive
1:59:43
and Research Center possesses a document written by Beckham in which he describes how,
1:59:48
as a youth of sixteen in nineteen fifty nine, he came under the influence
1:59:54
of Jack Martin and Guy Banister. Martin encouraged Beckham to adopt the pose of
1:59:59
a priest and the Old Catholic Church. His ministry was actually affront for anti
2:00:03
cast of Cuban activities. In the aa RC document, Beckham states that he
2:00:09
overheard Cuban rebels discussed the possible assassination of President Kennedy. After the assassination,
2:00:17
Beckham became partners with the bizarre Fred Lee Chrisman, who had worked in New
2:00:23
Orleans with Banister and Martin during nineteen sixty three. During his investigation, Jim
2:00:29
Garrison received a reported internal CIA document which identified Chrisman as an intelligence operative assigned
2:00:35
to domestic duties. A number of assassination researchers believed that Chrispin strongly resembled the
2:00:42
eldest of the three tramps. Arrested on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three,
2:00:47
Garrison subpointed Chrisman to appear before the grand jury on November twenty first,
2:00:51
sixty eight. Chrisman, then living in Washington, had become a far right
2:00:57
radio commentator under the pseudonym John Cole. He evaded extradition. However, reporters
2:01:03
discovered that Chrispin and Beckham co owns seven businesses which employed no one and provided
2:01:09
no goods or services. Chrispin told Seattle reporters that Beckham had functioned as a
2:01:15
banker for the anti Castro underground Friendly Crispin died in seventy six. Beckham still
2:01:20
lives all Or an occasional country Western singer he may be operating under the pseudonym
2:01:27
Mark Evans. So there's a girl, and Andolpho finally names the person responsible
2:01:43
for taping these conversations. Turns out Thomas Beckham. Now this is all some
2:01:54
twelve or thirteen years after Beckham said what he said to the HSCA investigators.
2:02:02
Now, what he's claiming is that Fenton and five others went down, talked
2:02:13
to Beckham, got his tape, and then sent Buris and Delsa down to
2:02:19
sequester Beckham in a hotel and get the now damning HSCA Beckham testimony, and
2:02:30
that they scared him to death in doing so. Is this a true story?
2:02:39
I don't know. Beckham never claimed in his HSCA testimony or his book
2:02:45
to have tape recorded a meeting of the conspirators, though if he had,
2:02:53
I think he would have said so. But again, what do I know?
2:03:01
Then would come up to looks like October of ninety three, And then
2:03:08
this copy of the Investigator newsletter which had attacked gandolph I think Charrison before decides
2:03:15
to polish piece by Gandolpho entitled Oswald's Interrogations Secretly Recorded by Ted Gandolpho. I
2:03:30
first heard about Lee Harvey Oswald's fourteen hours of interrogations being secretly tape recorded when
2:03:35
I read about it in Robert Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone's book High Treason about
2:03:42
a year ago, and decided to make this whole story up. Now I'm
2:03:45
joking, I answered that there, he says. I thereupon wrote to Groydon
2:03:51
twice about this, but I received no answer from him. Oddly, thereupon
2:03:57
contacted many of my fellow long time researchers, asking them if they knew about
2:04:00
this story, and only one of them, named not to be disclosed disclosed
2:04:04
at this time knew about it. He said that these complete fourteen hours of
2:04:11
oswald interrogations by the Dallas police were in the hands of two researchers, one
2:04:15
of them he described as a right winger and the other a good guy on
2:04:21
our side, we'll call mister X. He said he traveled to see and
2:04:28
talked to X, and that he was told that Oswald said certain blockbuster things
2:04:32
during his questioning. That he was in the employee of the ONI, but
2:04:38
he was also in the employee of the CIA, and was also a paid
2:04:42
informance for the FBI. I asked this researcher colleague of mine if he was
2:04:46
allowed to listen to any of these tapes, and he said he didn't hear
2:04:49
any of them. But when he did say to me that when of these
2:04:54
tapes would be played at a major press conference that X would be giving in
2:04:58
the near future, that retreat in the Forest will fall. I mentioned the
2:05:02
above information during my appearance as a guest on Roy Tukman Something's Happening program,
2:05:08
And I also mentioned in the fact that I was told that Captain Will Fritz
2:05:11
of the Dallas Police Department secretly recorded the entire fourteen hours of Oswald's interrogation and
2:05:15
then suppressed the tapes. That's the complete story as I know it, so
2:05:20
we'll see Editor's note. I investigated the matter a little further and was told
2:05:26
by a reliable source that hey researcher Gary Mack knew the man who installed the
2:05:31
tape recorder for Captain Will Fritz. Prior to the assassination, the b researcher
2:05:39
Jack White and Jim Mars had talked to a woman who reportedly had confirmed that
2:05:44
Fritz actually had the tapes. See that Fritz was extremely mad at the FBI
2:05:49
for taking over the case, and that is the reason he suppressed the tapes.
2:05:56
Researcher Robert Groton is in possession of a copy of these tapes, and
2:06:00
that it has been rumored that Groden will be holding a press conference about these
2:06:02
tapes during the nineteen ninety three ASK conference in Dallas, Texas. As mister
2:06:11
gandolfer ang as we says, we'll see all right, We're almost there,
2:06:21
folks. Nineteen ninety four. Dear ted, I can't tell when you're four
2:06:35
twenty eight. Here today was mailed because the post office took offense at you're
2:06:41
reusing a stamp and didn't cancel it. Don't worry, though, I paid
2:06:46
your postage for you. Next time you next time you write me a letter,
2:06:53
make sure you're unclosed and closed. Seventy five cents, Teddy month.
2:07:01
As you gathered, I was most surprised and disappointed, not from hearing from
2:07:05
you. I can't I don't know what that says. Says that there have
2:07:16
been complaints about big chunks of mail not being delivered in several places on your
2:07:21
tapes. You know you can sure those for fifty dollars for only a dollar,
2:07:30
for up to fifty dollars for only a dollar or are you just not
2:07:34
sending them after people send you their money. I'd ask you about the shows
2:07:41
you can contact. It can air me buy a phone during the unusual hours.
2:07:45
I now have to keep to be in bed by six pm, but
2:07:51
I'm up too early and ken for example, to late night West Coast shows.
2:07:57
Some of them go on after I'm up, usually about one am,
2:08:01
but it takes me a little time to get going as well as I as
2:08:05
well as I now can. I know there are daytime talk shows in New
2:08:11
York and those I hope you can make some arrangements with my case. Open
2:08:16
book about twenty to twenty. What I wrote is out about a month now
2:08:22
and have not arranged a single show. It does a job of Posner so
2:08:26
well the publisher figured that they could get the rest, which is not which
2:08:31
does even more of a job on him out entirely. Of course, I
2:08:35
can do interview shows that are taped. My limited supply of copies are now
2:08:41
gone. Wow. I did not believe that Oliver Stone would want it to
2:08:48
have anything to do with me, because I am reasonable for the publicity that
2:08:52
made it clear his JFK movie is not non fiction, as he said,
2:08:58
and I guess he got this off. He goes on and says, I
2:09:05
have no confidence at all in this supposed new James Earl Ray stuff. I
2:09:11
really do not believe it and from what I know, it does not check
2:09:15
out with the existing facts. Blah blah blah. His lawyer, Bill Pepper,
2:09:20
formerly a friend of Mark Lane, is now practicing in London and living
2:09:22
in England. Blah blah blah, losing paper. They're very deeper than Lane
2:09:28
did, Like Crying Wolf. If they get something, the courts then will
2:09:33
ignore it. Best Harold. And the last bit of correspondence we have from
2:09:41
ted Gian Dolfbo They're Harold, sorry for the delay and answering your latest letter.
2:09:50
R. E. Pasna, But I've just gotten today out of the
2:09:54
hospital where I stayed because of my very high sugar diabetes. Harold. When
2:10:01
posts Brook first came out, he was to be on wba L or w
2:10:09
BAI radio here in New York, and the station manager wrote me about his
2:10:13
going to be on and his knowing of microdential's in the case. He told
2:10:18
me to call in and straightened poster out with the facts. I called up,
2:10:28
and to make a long story short, in twenty minutes. I proceeded
2:10:31
to give the lie to his lies, so much so that I left him
2:10:37
actually stuttering all over the place at the end of it. Harold, So
2:10:41
why in hell are you concerned with his nonsense at all? He is undeniably
2:10:48
a paid propaganda asset, disinformation puppet for the CIA. Anyone who knows anything
2:10:54
at all about the case, as you most certainly do, say the least
2:10:58
no to say the least, knows that he's full of shit anyway. So
2:11:03
it's like debating another asshole like say David Belan or any of the other bullshitting
2:11:09
apologists love for the War and Commission or for the HSCA, isn't it So?
2:11:15
As for Posner, his own words, he says everywhere does him into
2:11:20
anyone? So why bother with him at all? Harold? But if you're
2:11:24
so inclined to do so, you can write to w BAI FM radio and
2:11:28
addresses to mister Bob Patt Bob Fast there, and I'm sure he'll allow you
2:11:33
to speak on the air on one of his shows he has one Thursday nights
2:11:37
starting at midnight. Phone number is this, and arrange for him to call
2:11:41
you back. That's what I suggest you do, Harold. I'm still sending
2:11:46
out tapes, newsletters and my HSCA cover a book, so I'm still out
2:11:50
there in forming the masses. Three newsletters have advertised me, so business is
2:11:56
very good and I'm kept pretty busy now days. Hoping this finds you in
2:12:01
the missis okay, best regards head Now, that letter, the last one
2:12:09
I wrote to you, is the very last correspondence between these two researchers in
2:12:18
the Wiseberg archives. I have looked high and low, folks for any information
2:12:26
regarding Ted Gandolpho's passing. We know when Harold Wiseberg passed, and I believe
2:12:35
it wasn't until the early two thousands. But I can find nothing on Gandolpho
2:12:41
past nineteen ninety four, so it appears he may have been He may have
2:12:48
either dropped off the face of the earth or passed away, but either way,
2:12:56
at the very end, you know, when you have lived a life
2:13:03
of deceit, lies and promise is not fulfilled, the only person you can
2:13:16
count on likely is yourself, and that is where you're left with yourself.
2:13:28
So a piece of advice to all those out there interested in the case,
2:13:31
do not become so obsessed with it that it consumes your soul. Make sure
2:13:39
you make time to spend with your family. Make sure you make time to
2:13:46
follow your passions in life other than trying to solve that you have the assassination,
2:13:52
Like if you like to play golf, make time for golf, and
2:13:56
if you like to go fishing, go fishing. Spend time with your kids.
2:14:00
Do good things. Keep your brain healthy, folks, then you'll be
2:14:07
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2:14:33
next time, peace. I see you are clothing from my kids and all
2:15:05
my friend and brother side and my granther that's gone gone finding but I damn
2:15:16
and that's a shop my side. When I wasn't always love he yever gone
2:15:26
away, I will be for round the time when I was alone with my
2:15:56
view never soway. I will be all around bid in my grandma. You
2:16:07
are fling from the piss of all my friend brother side and my grandma that's
2:16:18
also faring, But the damnage that roll in the bitch shit amnouncing