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- 0:00Speaker 1: I was donkey up to today time. Damn that he hog.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's turned the donkey I mean trying to be donkey today.
- 0:10Speaker 2: No more.
- 0:10Speaker 3: They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
- 0:12Speaker 3: not making new people do these days.
- 0:14Speaker 4: Called donkey of the day, and it really caught me
- 0:17Speaker 4: off guard.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Damn Charlamagne, who got the donkey out of day today?
- 0:23Speaker 3: Yes, donkey today for Monday, July twenty fourth, because it
- 0:26Speaker 3: goes to Judge Tracy Sworderscrum. She is a Lincoln County
- 0:30Speaker 3: District judge in Oklahoma. I am convinced I said her
- 0:33Speaker 3: last name wrong, and I am convinced that society is
- 0:36Speaker 3: as unseious as it's ever been my whole life. I
- 0:39Speaker 3: was told art reflect reality, and maybe because I'm older,
- 0:42Speaker 3: I'm seeing more of the nonsense. But it seems to
- 0:44Speaker 3: me things that were once regulated to just TV shows
- 0:48Speaker 3: and movies are actually happening in real life.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Remember when in certain.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Films the TV shows they would show courtroom scenes and
- 0:55Speaker 3: the judge was like, you know, looking at pawn or
- 0:58Speaker 3: shopping for furniture, just anything other than paying attention to
- 1:01Speaker 3: the actual case. Well, America, we have reached that point
- 1:05Speaker 3: where that is actually happening in our courtrooms. Maybe it's
- 1:08Speaker 3: always been happening, I don't know, But nowadays, since Big
- 1:10Speaker 3: Brother is always watching, folks is getting caught. And that's
- 1:13Speaker 3: what happened to Judge Tracy Soda scrim She was presiding
- 1:16Speaker 3: over the case of a man charged in the beating
- 1:19Speaker 3: death of his girlfriend's son. Well, during the opening statements
- 1:23Speaker 3: and testimony, the judge wasn't paying attention. The judge wasn't
- 1:25Speaker 3: paying attention throughout the whole case. The judge wasn't given
- 1:28Speaker 3: a good devil damn about what was going on in
- 1:31Speaker 3: that courtroom.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Let's go to the news report.
- 1:33Speaker 5: Plae District Judge Tracy Soderstrom is accused of using her
- 1:37Speaker 5: cell phone for entertainment during a trial last month. That
- 1:40Speaker 5: trial was over the murder of a two year old
- 1:43Speaker 5: little boy. Surveillance video from inside the courtroom leaked to
- 1:47Speaker 5: the Oklahoma A former judge and current attorney, Tracy Schumacher
- 1:51Speaker 5: told KOCO Today using a phone or email during a
- 1:54Speaker 5: trial is normal for judges and lawyers, but this footage
- 1:57Speaker 5: shows the judge using the cell phone for a purpose
- 2:00Speaker 5: that didn't have to do with the trial. She also said,
- 2:03Speaker 5: for judges like Soderstrom. Herre coming from private practice to
- 2:07Speaker 5: the bench. There's a learning curve, and while this is
- 2:09Speaker 5: quote a bump in the road, she's hopeful she can
- 2:12Speaker 5: overcome it in her judicial career and continue to serve
- 2:15Speaker 5: the citizens of Lincoln County.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Judge Tracy Solderscrum was busy checking Facebook during the trial.
- 2:23Speaker 2: This is true. This happened.
- 2:25Speaker 3: She was texting and scrolling through social media while this
- 2:28Speaker 3: man was on trial for beating his girlfriend's son to
- 2:31Speaker 3: death allegedly. Okay, at one point, the judge was seen
- 2:33Speaker 3: searching for a gift.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, man, If the.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Judge is doing all that during your trial, trust and believe,
- 2:40Speaker 3: then mine has already made up. All right, you going
- 2:42Speaker 3: to prison. This is all just formalities, all right. The
- 2:45Speaker 3: judge is just there so they don't get fine. Now,
- 2:47Speaker 3: I would assume that's not how a judge is supposed
- 2:50Speaker 3: to move. I would assume a judge's job is to
- 2:52Speaker 3: not be biased, to not have any preconceived notions about
- 2:55Speaker 3: the case, to actually listen to the evidence presented.
- 2:58Speaker 2: But you can't do any of that. You scrolling Facebook.
- 3:01Speaker 3: And I heard the news reports say that it's you know,
- 3:03Speaker 3: fine for judges to be on the phone.
- 3:05Speaker 2: I don't want my judge on the phone during my trial.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Okay, what if the judge is searching conversations about the
- 3:10Speaker 3: case and it's basing what you know they believe off
- 3:14Speaker 3: what the comments are saying.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Okay, Look, the trial ended in a.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Second degree manslaughter conviction, but prosecutors had asked jurors to find.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Him guilty of first degree murdered.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, man, Jurors are banned from
- 3:27Speaker 3: using cell phones in the courtroom during trials because we
- 3:30Speaker 3: want them to be present all their time and attention
- 3:32Speaker 3: should be on the evidence being presented. Shouldn't the damned
- 3:35Speaker 3: judge be held to the same standard, if not higher.
- 3:39Speaker 3: A whole case going on and the judges just sitting
- 3:42Speaker 3: there with the phone in her lapping below the top
- 3:44Speaker 3: of the judges bench while using it. Aldie said she
- 3:47Speaker 3: would put it in an open drawer. And now, look,
- 3:49Speaker 3: some people can multitask, right. I don't know if it's
- 3:51Speaker 3: illegal for a judge to be on their phone during
- 3:53Speaker 3: the trial or not, but it's some things that just
- 3:54Speaker 3: don't seem right ethically. Imagine a doctor tweeting while doing
- 3:58Speaker 3: some type of surgery on you imagine getting a colonoscopy
- 4:02Speaker 3: and then watching the tape back and they're paying more
- 4:04Speaker 3: attention to means than actually probing what's in your ass?
- 4:07Speaker 3: Why you go there though, because I want you to
- 4:10Speaker 3: understand you've had a colonoscopy.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I've had a colonoscopy.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you watch the tape back and
- 4:14Speaker 3: you saw the judges on Instagram laughing.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Why they supposed to be paying attention to what's going
- 4:18Speaker 2: on your button?
- 4:18Speaker 6: But y'all both have been to the dentists too. While
- 4:20Speaker 6: you ain't go there, damn right, you could have win, Dennis.
- 4:22Speaker 6: You could wear so many places, but the factor is
- 4:24Speaker 6: straight to the butt.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Now, there is such a thing called a Code of
- 4:29Speaker 3: Judicial Conduct, which states the judge shall act at all
- 4:32Speaker 3: times in a manner that promotes public confidence in the independence,
- 4:35Speaker 3: integrity and impartial impartiak.
- 4:37Speaker 2: What's the words learning impartiality, Yes, of the judiciary? Okay.
- 4:41Speaker 3: The code does not specifically mentioned the use of mobile
- 4:44Speaker 3: phones though, so technically we don't even know if the
- 4:46Speaker 3: judge did something wrong. Look, man, it's over, okay. Machines
- 4:51Speaker 3: are man machines versus man. The machines of one. Okay,
- 4:54Speaker 3: in a few years, judges are gonna be AI anyway,
- 4:56Speaker 3: So it doesn't even matter if judges can't help but
- 4:59Speaker 3: be distracted by smart phones, what hope.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Is it for the rest of us?
- 5:02Speaker 3: Please give just Tracy Sowder scrim the sweet sound to
- 5:05Speaker 3: the Hamiltons.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Oh no, you are the doggy of the day, the
- 5:15Speaker 1: dog all the day.
- 5:20Speaker 7: Ye, all right, thank you for that donkey today, sir, Yes, indeed,
- 5:26Speaker 7: all right, b E T.
- 5:27Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow, Lawrence, say piece to BT.
- 5:28Speaker 4: See you later, BT.
- 5:30Speaker 7: Everybody else, let's open up the phone lines. Eight hundred
- 5:33Speaker 7: five eight five one five one. Let's just ask has
- 5:36Speaker 7: being on your phone at work ever got you in trouble?
- 5:40Speaker 1: That is the question. Eight hundred five eight five.
- 5:42Speaker 7: One oh five to one. Have you ever been on
- 5:45Speaker 7: the phone? I know one time I was. I was
- 5:48Speaker 7: bidding for a car while I was DJing, and I
- 5:51Speaker 7: was so into the bid I forgot that the record
- 5:53Speaker 7: was on, and the records just stopped and then it
- 5:55Speaker 7: was just dead head people just looking at me crazy.
- 5:57Speaker 1: But I and I ain't even win the bid on
- 5:59Speaker 1: the car. Has that happened to you?
- 6:01Speaker 7: Have you ever been on the phone at work and
- 6:03Speaker 7: it's ever got you in trouble?
- 6:04Speaker 1: Lauren?
- 6:05Speaker 4: Yes, I was on my phone during that.
- 6:08Speaker 6: When I first started with TMZ, I did the TMZ tours,
- 6:11Speaker 6: I was on my phone on their tour bus and
- 6:12Speaker 6: I'm in the group chat with my cousins, and my
- 6:16Speaker 6: cousin then let me know that my boyfriend at the
- 6:18Speaker 6: time or we were like in a situation ship I
- 6:21Speaker 6: don't know, but we've been together for some time had
- 6:23Speaker 6: a baby on the way by her best friend. So
- 6:25Speaker 6: I literally broke down in tears, could not finish the tour.
- 6:27Speaker 6: People were looking at me like I was crazy. We
- 6:29Speaker 6: were mid tour, they had to reroute the bus, and
- 6:31Speaker 6: I was like, I will never in my life ever
- 6:34Speaker 6: engage in conversation while I'm at work on the phone
- 6:37Speaker 6: anything like that with family members.
- 6:40Speaker 2: With the bus store. That's a great TMZ story.
- 6:42Speaker 4: I could do.
- 6:44Speaker 6: You understand how my heart was in my like it
- 6:48Speaker 6: was at the bottom of my feet, Like I could
- 6:50Speaker 6: barely speak, Like they thought that like something happen. I
- 6:53Speaker 6: think they thought like somebody died, Like that's how bad
- 6:55Speaker 6: I was, like slide down the wall, ugly cry.
- 6:57Speaker 2: What did you call your boyfriend? What did I when
- 7:00Speaker 2: When did you call him to confirm?
- 7:01Speaker 1: Oh?
- 7:02Speaker 4: No, I knew it was it was my cousin. I
- 7:03Speaker 4: knew it was true. Like, you know what I mean,
- 7:05Speaker 4: how do you break up?
- 7:06Speaker 2: You and the boyfriend?
- 7:07Speaker 4: It was bad. We ended up getting back together. But
- 7:09Speaker 4: you're not together no more.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Oh you got back together, so you're gonna be step mama.
- 7:13Speaker 6: I was per bit, I was, you know, but it
- 7:16Speaker 6: was rough. It was a rough transition into yeah.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Jesus, all right, m hm, last, what's wrong with you?
- 7:31Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what a king? But I was
- 7:33Speaker 3: just doing that.
- 7:36Speaker 6: You really you really want me to get crazy?
- 7:38Speaker 4: I don't know why do you want me to get crazy?
- 7:40Speaker 1: Here today?
- 7:42Speaker 4: Way, King? You have daughters, I'm playing Lauren.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Do you want this for your four daughters?
- 7:52Speaker 3: But she got back with him, so clearly he has
- 7:54Speaker 3: some redeeming quality eight hundred five.
- 8:02Speaker 4: I like been there. Christ, ladies, sweetly, if you got
- 8:07Speaker 4: back with the d this.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Might be a better conversation than the fore word.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Let's let's save this up.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Lord, this might be a better conversation. I'm being honest
- 8:15Speaker 3: with you because you're not the only woman who's been
- 8:17Speaker 3: in this situation.
- 8:18Speaker 2: No, I'm not. You know what I'm saying.
- 8:19Speaker 3: You've been with a man and you love you like
- 8:21Speaker 3: this man, and this man cheats on you, ends up
- 8:23Speaker 3: having a baby with somebody else, get somebody else pregnant,
- 8:26Speaker 3: but you decided to stay.
- 8:27Speaker 7: With Have you ever went back to the d even
- 8:29Speaker 7: though you had a you was a step mom, That's
- 8:31Speaker 7: that's what you're asking.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Did you ever get to be step mama? She said, yeah.
- 8:33Speaker 6: I mean, but he also he already had a child
- 8:35Speaker 6: me and himma had We've been together for ten years
- 8:37Speaker 6: at this point.
- 8:38Speaker 4: I mean at that point it was like probably seven eight.
- 8:42Speaker 6: We went to high school together, so he already had
- 8:43Speaker 6: a child when I met him, So the stepmom thing
- 8:45Speaker 6: wasn't an issue or a game changer for me. We
- 8:48Speaker 6: were in a weird situation. I moved to LA and
- 8:51Speaker 6: so you know, it was a little rocky.
- 8:52Speaker 2: It was like you needed a place to stay still up.
- 8:55Speaker 4: Man, I moved to LA by myself. He was stilling Delaware.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Oh gotcha.
- 9:00Speaker 6: Oh, you know, it got a little rocky, Like you know,
- 9:02Speaker 6: I'm dating people. We both lying to each other, so
- 9:05Speaker 6: I couldn't really be as mad. And I think that's
- 9:07Speaker 6: the only reason why I decided to go back because
- 9:09Speaker 6: if we were like committed, even though he was still lying,
- 9:12Speaker 6: if we were super committed and I my hands weren't dirty, two,
- 9:14Speaker 6: I would have been like, oh no, I'm good, So
- 9:16Speaker 6: let's pivot.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I want to hear some stories.
- 9:18Speaker 7: Eight hundred and five. Are you in a similar situation,
- 9:22Speaker 7: Maybe your man cheated on, you had a baby, went
- 9:25Speaker 7: back because the d was so good.
- 9:28Speaker 1: We want to hear from you.
- 9:28Speaker 7: Let me clear the lines, Let me clean the lines,
- 9:30Speaker 7: clear the lines, sclate the lines, clate the lines.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Club.
- 9:32Speaker 7: Oh okay, we'll take your calls when we come back.
- 9:34Speaker 7: Eight hundred and five eight five one five These kings, man,
- 9:36Speaker 7: you stupid. It's the Breakfast Uncle morning.
- 9:38Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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