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The One Where AJ Gibson & Emile Ennis Jr Confess Their Mess to Lala · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: It's a La La Kent, motherfucker. We're back with a
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  Speaker 1: brand new episode of my brand new podcast, Give them
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  Speaker 1: La La hurry it Hello.
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  Speaker 2: I know guess who.
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  Speaker 1: Guess who it's Jess, just like a Walter. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: what a freaking amazing weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me about it because I haven't heard about it yet.
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  Speaker 1: I just live for ocean. Kent. You have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: Like you do have an idea because you're here every day, right,
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  Speaker 1: But my daughter is a baby genius. That's just period.
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  Speaker 1: No one can argue with me. I'll say to her, like,
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  Speaker 1: I started doing this thing where I'm like, mama and
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  Speaker 1: I point at myself, loves ocean, and then I point
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  Speaker 1: at her. So now every time I say mama loves
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  Speaker 1: she points at herself, or she'll point at me and
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  Speaker 1: then point at herself. When I'm like, it's the cutest thing.
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  Speaker 1: She shows me that she's one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh she dies.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I haven't seen that yet. I know she waves
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  Speaker 1: at everybody. She waves at everyone, and when people don't
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  Speaker 1: wave back, I want to fucking jump that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wave to my child, Wave to my baby. Not
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  Speaker 2: skinny but not hat fat. Posted on her story, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago and she was recording her son
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  Speaker 2: waving to someone walking by, and she said in the
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  Speaker 2: in the video, she's like, look at him, he's waving.
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  Speaker 2: Wave back, wave back, don't be a bitch. Don't be
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  Speaker 2: a bitch, to be a bitch. And then the person
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  Speaker 2: he's walking and she's like, okay, there's a bitch right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you bitch. Yeah, wave back to my child. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when people don't wave back, I number one want
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  Speaker 1: to cut them, and number two I wave back to ocean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, don't you worry. Mama's always got you. That's
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  Speaker 1: so cute. Yeah. So we we went to Teddy Mellencamp's
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  Speaker 1: daughter's birthday. Okay, she turned two. Uh, Stacy and Bea
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  Speaker 1: were there with Hartford. I met a bunch of cool moms,
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  Speaker 1: you did. I met a bunch of cool moms really,
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  Speaker 1: who are just doing the damn thing.
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  Speaker 2: Cool moms are a vibe, you know, nothing hotter than
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  Speaker 2: just like a parent, right, who's like doing the parent job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that balls deep in it. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: we were already talking about preschool and Stasse texted me
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. The party was on Saturday, bright and early.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, what the fuck do we do about this?
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  Speaker 1: We have to start schmoozing. Yeah, I said two things.
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  Speaker 1: I have been in an environment for so many years
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  Speaker 1: where the facade and materialistic things were a priority. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want it anymore. I don't like it. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it then. Contrary, but what about the time you
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  Speaker 1: said blow jobs our paygs? I got it all right,
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  Speaker 1: shock value. Yeah, I don't want it, didn't care about
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  Speaker 1: it fucking then. I don't care about it now. My
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  Speaker 1: two top priorities that I told Stossy one, I want
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  Speaker 1: my kid to have the best time ever. Want her
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  Speaker 1: to be around kids. I want her to be stimulated,
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  Speaker 1: I want her to be safe. The second is I
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  Speaker 1: want my kid around Hartford. I grew up with my
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  Speaker 1: mom's best friends having babies, and their babies were my
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  Speaker 1: best friends. Like, that is priority to me. So wherever
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  Speaker 1: Hartford is going, where do I sign up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know, do you think all of your babies will
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  Speaker 2: go like your crew, all the kids will go in
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  Speaker 2: the same Or is it just like you're focusing on
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  Speaker 2: Hartford and Ocean because they seem to be No.
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  Speaker 1: I think the thing that's hard with Sheena is she
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  Speaker 1: lives the dream where she like has her place in
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  Speaker 1: La she has her place in San Diego, she has
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  Speaker 1: her replace in Palm Springs. She travels like she lives
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  Speaker 1: such a fun, fun life. But what's hard is like
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  Speaker 1: I always know that she's constantly on the move. So
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  Speaker 1: obviously when it comes, I'll talk to Brittany, I'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to Sheena. But it gets hard, like we signed me
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  Speaker 1: brittain Stas signed the girls and cruise up for baby
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  Speaker 1: sensory classes on Wednesdays, and it's like mommy and me
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  Speaker 1: and I knew she no couldn't do it because she's
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  Speaker 1: spending her time in San Diego right now. Oh you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I will venture into like where are we going
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  Speaker 1: to school? Everybody, let's do this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is a good point you had, so
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  Speaker 2: that was important to you. You have who's still I
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  Speaker 2: think your best friend, someone that you went to like
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  Speaker 2: grade school with.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, see, none of them. I had two of.
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  Speaker 2: Them really, and you're still friends with both.
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  Speaker 1: Of them, the best of friends. So that's important. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Like they know every like the way I react to things.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, oh okay, that's because this happened when she
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  Speaker 1: was four, right, So she's still dealing with that, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they know every Woody get a heartbreak, They've been there
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  Speaker 1: for it all. Like things that I would never talk
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  Speaker 1: to anyone about, I would speak to them about.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want that for my baby. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what, Stossy and I are very similar in the
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  Speaker 1: sense that we're very structured. I can't fly by the
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  Speaker 1: seat of my pants, like I need to know, Like
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  Speaker 1: if you tell me we're linking up Wednesday, November two
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  Speaker 1: at eleven, I will be there at ten fifty five, yep.
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  Speaker 1: Where Yeah it's on my calendar, Yeah it is. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, but let me go back to when you said schmoozing.
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  Speaker 2: You're like you said, Stacy said something like to you
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  Speaker 2: about we need to be schmoozing, and you were like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not explain that a little more, because do you mean, like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to send my kid to like this
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  Speaker 2: this school where I have to worry about her asking
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  Speaker 2: for a Gucci bag when she's five, or like, what
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  Speaker 2: do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 1: Or was it this is what I mean by that? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: La is very weird, and I know we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of listeners who like it strange to me too.
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  Speaker 1: I come from fucking Utah. You go to the public
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  Speaker 1: school that's a mile away and no one thinks twice
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  Speaker 1: about it, Like that's just your school. LA is so different.
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  Speaker 1: There's amazing public schools, charter schools, private schools, but each one.
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  Speaker 1: Not so much the public school because just based off
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  Speaker 1: of my public schools, like come one, come all, you
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  Speaker 1: live in the neighborhood. Yeah, but private schools are insane
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  Speaker 1: to get into. And I was talking to moms even
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  Speaker 1: before I gave birth, and I remember having this conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Stassy. Everyone was like, a year and a half
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  Speaker 1: is when you start, wow for preschool, like start the
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  Speaker 1: process of schmoozing because that sets up their entire So
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  Speaker 1: it's like politics, one hundred percent. It is politics. And
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  Speaker 1: Sazzy and I looked at each other. We have plenty
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  Speaker 1: of time. Hello, oceans turning one. Hartford will be a year.
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  Speaker 2: And a half in June, Like it's here, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: freaking here. And you're saying, you're like, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: I'm not about that life.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of a lot of parents that I
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  Speaker 1: spoke to before I gave birth, it was like you
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  Speaker 1: could just tell it was social hour for moms. Motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: I got a job, right, I got a job. Like
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  Speaker 1: I if I'm taking Ocean to preschool, it's because I
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  Speaker 1: need to go to work. I don't have time to
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  Speaker 1: like show off my newest birken bag. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have time to talk to about the luncheon that I
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  Speaker 1: went to and have.
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  Speaker 2: The dubb little charity Like, No.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I work during the day. You're a working mom, correct. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And at this point in time, I'm Ocean's provider. The
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  Speaker 1: money that comes into my household is coming from me
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  Speaker 1: only me, and I'm providing, right, So I can't do
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  Speaker 1: the whole like my kid goes here because it's so
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  Speaker 1: fun for the moms.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and because it's like and you can't spend because
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  Speaker 2: it probably is the way that you're saying. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I asked how it works. It sounds like
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  Speaker 2: it's almost a full time job getting your kid into
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  Speaker 2: a school. It is like starting at one and a
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  Speaker 2: half and you're scheduling these luncheons and I need to
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  Speaker 2: know where to go to talk to these ladies. That's
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  Speaker 2: like a full time job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and some and some of the moms start preschool
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  Speaker 1: at like two or three. Okay. I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not ready to send her to preschool at that age, right,
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  Speaker 1: four is good. I don't want her gone every day.
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe two to three days a week is totally
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  Speaker 1: fine for a few hours. But like I mostly work
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  Speaker 1: from home. We're in my office right now. It's hot
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  Speaker 1: mess in here.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, love it in here.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like hot. I know it's a good vibe
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  Speaker 1: in here, but I like just being where my kid is.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just all of these these bridges that I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need a cross yet, but if you live
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  Speaker 1: in La, no, you're crossing them now.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's like pressure to feel like you have to start. Yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: can I tell you how much it is for this preschool?
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  Speaker 2: I'm dying to know? Actually, preschool two days a week?
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  Speaker 2: Let me yes, let me guess, Let me guess.
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Are we guessing months?
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  Speaker 1: Year, yearly? Jesus five thousand dollars, sixteen thousand dollars. If
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  Speaker 1: I want to send Ocean to this preschool, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: two days a week.
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  Speaker 2: A year, yeah, oh my god, double that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of like college tuition.
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  Speaker 1: That's yeah, But if you think about it, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these private schools out here are like fifty to
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  Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars a year. That gives me for these
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  Speaker 1: kids to go to private school.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever thought about homeschooling? Were you homeschooled
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  Speaker 2: and the younger did you go to preschool?
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  Speaker 1: I did go to preschool. I went to Discovery Q.
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  Speaker 2: I was homeschooled for preschool, and I entered kindergarten knowing
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  Speaker 2: how to write in cursive and full. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: light your ahead, Damn, light years ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I think most people send kids to preschool for just
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  Speaker 1: to like get them interacting with other kids, right, But
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  Speaker 1: I want Ocean to be the same way, Like I
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  Speaker 1: want her walking and be like I can count to
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  Speaker 1: a million, right, here's my cursive right.
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  Speaker 2: Granted, my mom and all of her friends did it,
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  Speaker 2: so I was like socializing five days a week. So
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of like school, except we would like
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  Speaker 2: do our preschool until certain time and then we'd go play.
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  Speaker 2: But it makes sense if you're like a mom and
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  Speaker 2: you have a single child, it does make sense to
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  Speaker 2: send them to something that it's like, well, I want
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  Speaker 2: them to socialize, right, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: I get that an ocean will have a sibling one day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll make sure of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I I would prefer to not have
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  Speaker 1: a man involved, like I'm not opposed to like finding
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  Speaker 1: a sperm donor. Yeah you know. Yeah, so when that
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  Speaker 1: time comes, because I don't want her super old and
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  Speaker 1: then I bring a baby in, like, I want them
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  Speaker 1: to be pretty close in it, pretty close in age. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, if that time comes and I haven't
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  Speaker 1: met anyone who I know is a good dude and
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  Speaker 1: has cleared the background check that I secretly have gone on.
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  Speaker 2: Him secretly, not so secretly anymore, Okay, you know, then.
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  Speaker 1: Pull up the computer and show me some dudes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, why not.
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  Speaker 1: I have no problem with that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a great ada before how many years
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  Speaker 2: apart are you in Easton? A few right, like a
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  Speaker 2: little over too, see and you guys are close.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's same with my siblings A year older, a
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  Speaker 2: few years younger. I before I'm literally two days before
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  Speaker 2: I met Kyle. I'm not kidding. I was doing this
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  Speaker 2: single thing for like a couple of years. I was
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  Speaker 2: feeling good, and I was like, this is it this
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  Speaker 2: is how you live. You just you don't need a man.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, this is how I'm going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: In a few years from now, I'm going to get
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  Speaker 2: a sperm donor. I'm going to be a career woman first.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like excited about it. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then I met Kyle and I was like shit.
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  Speaker 1: But that's how it usually happens. Yeah, yeah, you know, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to a few people right now, and my
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  Speaker 1: mom has asked me a few times like what are
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  Speaker 1: you wanting? Even one of these dudes asked me like
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  Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Yeah? I said nothing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so like we've spoken about this before, Like I'm fulfilled.
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  Speaker 1: I have my business that I'm working on, I have family,
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  Speaker 1: I have a great group of friends. Like I'm literally
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  Speaker 1: I have zero expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not looking for anything, which be prepared because
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  Speaker 2: that's usually when it comes. And you're like shit because
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  Speaker 2: you're like I'm fulfilled. I feel like that's when it
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  Speaker 2: comes because you're fulfilled.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the old saying or whatever. It's like you
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  Speaker 2: cannot unless you're fulfilled, you cannot fulfill someone else.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, like you have to be one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: with yourself so that you equal two hundred with a partner. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't do this fifty to fifty and.
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  Speaker 2: You can't look for someone to complete you complete yourself
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  Speaker 2: and then that person's a bonus. And that's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have a partner in life for a life partner,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't have someone completing you right then you
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  Speaker 2: lose that person or whatever, even if it's with something
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  Speaker 2: something terrible happens, you are you don't know what to
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  Speaker 2: do with yourself. No, but I think that's when it comes.
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  Speaker 2: But I love that you say that, like I'm not
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  Speaker 2: looking for anyone and that's also you know me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, like la la, go have fun, give yourself
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  Speaker 2: at least a year of having fun.
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  Speaker 1: Only I think so too. That's what I think, And
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  Speaker 1: I wrote this in my book, like I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that you should have like that it's set in stone
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  Speaker 1: that you have one hoe phase. Yeah, no, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people do it in their twenties.
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  Speaker 1: Some people don't do it at all. Like no judgment here,
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  Speaker 1: like live your life. But I think you know, you
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  Speaker 1: just roll with the punches. It's like I it is
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  Speaker 1: different though.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, like, what what do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not just out here I talk about like
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  Speaker 1: I'm just out here looking for some big old d Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Really not you you are, Well, I'll let you say it.
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  Speaker 2: What is what do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've spoken a lot about like me now being sober.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really proud of myself because last week and this week,
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  Speaker 1: we'll just say this week. This week, I've hit three
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  Speaker 1: AA meetings already, which the last time I hit three
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  Speaker 1: AA meetings in a row was like at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of my sobriety. And you know, I'm just I went
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  Speaker 1: to this meeting that is so when you read the
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Big Book, there's like so many different areas of what
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  Speaker 1: it talks about. One of them is sex. So this
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  Speaker 1: meeting that I go to, it's a women's meeting. They
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  Speaker 1: talk about sexuality and sobriety and what it was like
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  Speaker 1: when they were drinking and what it's like now. And
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  Speaker 1: this woman shared her story and I just like, I
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  Speaker 1: had no intention of sharing, and she thought I raised
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  Speaker 1: my hand like so much going through my mind as
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  Speaker 1: she was talking, and then it was time to share,
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  Speaker 1: and she was like waw la, did you have your
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  Speaker 1: hand up? Would you like to share it? And I
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  Speaker 1: was like I didn't, but like, this is the universe
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  Speaker 1: letting me know that, Like I need to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: You inspire me. Thank you for your share. And I
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  Speaker 1: realized in that meeting, I'm not ready to have sex yet. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not ready. I have so much work to do
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  Speaker 1: in this program. Still, I am not only like my
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  Speaker 1: relationship with sex back in the day was like Adam
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  Speaker 1: to the roster, this is so fun, Let's drink, let's
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  Speaker 1: touch each other. You know. Then I get into a
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  Speaker 1: relationship and now that it's ended and I my eyes
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  Speaker 1: are open to what was going on behind my back.
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  Speaker 1: Sex is tainted for me. I think about it and
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  Speaker 1: I'm disgusted. I've got to get out of that. I
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  Speaker 1: have to reclaim my sexuality. I have to reclaim what
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  Speaker 1: sex means to me, because right now, it's dirty, it's gross,
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  Speaker 1: it represents betrayal, it represents darkness, and like none of
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  Speaker 1: my doing, all of someone else is doing. But right
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  Speaker 1: now that's my focus. And so I called my sponsor.
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  Speaker 1: She sent over a lot of things that Jessica printed off,
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  Speaker 1: and now I just have to I was super proud
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  Speaker 1: of where I was with my steps, and now I'm
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  Speaker 1: going back to like rework steps to get me out
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  Speaker 1: of this headspace and get me confident in my sobriety,
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  Speaker 1: which I am. But there's a big difference between I'm
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  Speaker 1: confident in not picking up a drink that I'm solid on,
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  Speaker 1: but people don't realize that it's so much bigger going
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  Speaker 1: into AA and doing the program. Not picking up is
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  Speaker 1: the cherry on top. The work you have to do
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  Speaker 1: is a person and we're humans. So I'm not gonna
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: say I'll never clap back again. I'm never gonna have
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: sex unless it's the perfect person and it's a big
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: old deed. Yeah, I feel great about it, like shit's
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. But like that's what I'm working on right
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: now because the not drinking part, I'm fucking solid. Put
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a vodka bottle in front of me right now, don't
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: want it. Buy the other stuff, the most important stuff
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: in my meetings and in the rooms. I got to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: revisit because my life is different now, very different than
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: when I first got sober.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: And I think that's so incredible that you are willing
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to say all right, time to go back I've done
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the steps, Like I've shared before, I've plenty of family
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: members and close friends who are sober now who are
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: struggling with their sobriety, who are addicts currently and then
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: in the program been out of it. And I have
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: some friends who've gone through the program, and yes, they
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: go to meetings here and there, but I don't think
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: they've ever It's been years and they've never gone back
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: through the steps. Other friends who have to do the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: steps constantly once they finish them, they're going back through them.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And because I have a lot of people I know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I've heard about them and talked about them, and I
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: think they're good. They're so great for everyone, and I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: love some of the specific steps. Just an example is like,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it correctly, I've never been through
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the program, but there's like there's a step or whatever
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that you have to It's like maybe you write down
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: your insecurity and people who threaten that insecurity and why
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: like or something they did this got me angry? Well
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: why did it get you angry? What is it threaten
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: about yourself? And then you start doing it with a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: lot and you see, like, holy shit, this is threatening
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: my pride or this is it's like and you find
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: this similar thing, I've done it before. When I'm like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: give me that piece of paper because I need to
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: It's not it's I mean, the alcoholic mind is very
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: different than anybody is mind. Right, But the steps, like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the things that we work on, you could be anybody
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: working on them. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's for me.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: My program is like church. It hits every aspect of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: what I need in my life to be fulfilled, on
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: top of giving me strength to not drink again. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to drink again. I don't want to.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have that fun yeah you know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I get a little loose and then I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: wake up the next morning with a freaking hangover and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the Sunday's scaries. I don't want the Sunday s It's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: not worth it. No, Yes, and my skin has never
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: looked better since. That's true. Tough, it's gone. The glazed eyes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You're glowing constantly, thank you. No, but yeah, that's I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: dig it. Yeah, I'm want my pink cloud, right, But
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: like you said, do I'm confident in my sobriety, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm working on other things. And I think it's awesome, right,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I are working on all the other things.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, use yourself.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: That's a big thing though to you, for you to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: be like, I don't think I'm ready for sex.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: No, I'm definitely not. Yeah, once I get my tig
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Old Biddies done, maybe a different story.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I give it a few weeks after that, and I'm
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: going to go.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Just kidding you, guys. We have two amazing guests today,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Aj and Emial Power couple. Incredible. They do a ton
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of work with the LGBTQ plus community. I'm inspired by them.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: They'll be coming up after the break. Before we cut
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to the break, I want to remind you I'm going
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: on motherfucking tour. The first spot i'll be in is Irvine, California.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But that one you can't come to because it's sold out.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see everyone who does have a ticket.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Then we're hitting Fort Lauderdale, Clearwater, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville which
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: spoil alert Shena and Brock will be joining me in
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Nashville time. Oh my god, it's gonna be that I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: have with them, is it? I can't tell you, guys,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but if you're near Nashville. I'm trying to see you.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Then we're going to New Orleans, Houston, Austin, and Dallas.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: By the way, we have Jackson Brittany for the Florida dates.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That'll be li af what that's so exciting. Oh my god,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I know they're locked in, so to buy tickets, just
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: go to give them Live dot com and make sure
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you stay till the end of the podcast because I'm
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: answering your voicemails. I love y'all and we will be
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: right back. Hello, my loves, We are back, and I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: have really amazing guests today. We have AJ Gibson and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Emil Ennis Junior. You guys look so fabulous. I cannot
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: like I'm like mortified showing up looking like a hot mess.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Look at you both.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: No, you're adorable. We love you and we're appreciative. So
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: thank you for having us. We're excited to be here.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Of course, I'm honored, and you know I've obviously I'm
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a huge fan of both of you. I think you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: guys kill it. And then I was, you know, reading
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: into all of your accomplishments and you know, you guys
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have an amazing podcast Confess the Mess, which I dig
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the name. First of all, I want to know how
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the two of you came to be.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, we actually it's interesting. It's kind of a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: full circle moment. Yeah, we came to be hosting a
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: podcast together ten years ago, but.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: It was a it was video so it was it
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: was video focused at this after show network called after
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Us and they did after shows for all these different shows,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and then it also went to a podcast fore, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: it was way before a podcasts were or are what
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: they are now.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the first time we met was actually on camera. Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: so we've actually he made a YouTube video out of
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: it a couple of years time, and it took tok
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: and we got a lot of mileage out of it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so we have like the moment we met
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: each other for the very first time on cameras. It's
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: kind of cool. We were hosting the after show for
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: America's Got Talent, which is the weirdest thing in the
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: world that did not even after show. But we were
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: friends for like the first five months and then eventually
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: this randomly started dating and we're getting married now this
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: summer or so. It's been a wild, wild ride.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, congratulations, that is thank you amazing. And you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I always wonder, like how how it is to work
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: with your partner, Like, obviously you guys are a force
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: as a couple, but you're a force individually as well.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: How does that dynamic work? How do you balance you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: your gigs on top of doing podcasts, hosting, and then
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: like shutting it down when you guys are like, hey,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: now here we are as a couple.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, we're supposed to shut down.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Are supposed to shut it down?
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: No? Yeah, I think I think for us, And that's
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: kind of what the whole premise of our podcast, Confessor
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Mess is, Like, it's people submitting their secrets and their confessions.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: And years ago, it actually started with just the two
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: of us and we sat based face and naked on
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: the bed together. Yeah, and we kind of confessed our
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: deepest desires, our fears, things that we thought we would
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: be judged for.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Person back in our relationship. Yeah, because I'm about nine
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: years older than he is, and I'm I'm actually the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: first person he's ever gone on a date with. And yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: and we're getting married and we've been to get together
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: almost ten years now.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: And when we met, I was in the closet so
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: my father's a pastor, he's retired now, and the mom's Jamaica.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: So there was a lot of layers to it, but
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: like we confess those things to each other and when
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: we talk about like how we work together, because a
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: lot of people want to know, like, oh, how do
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you guys work together? And like shut it down and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: do all these things. And I think for us, we're
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: each other's biggest fans. I know that sounds corny and
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: geez what we really are. And we're both hosts, like
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: we we aren't like hosts we're trying to be actors
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: or hosts. We're trying to be models or something else.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: We're I think we also respect each other's career, yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: careers and talent. Like we literally he's done things I've
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: never done. I've done things he's never done.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we kind of bring up and there's no jealousy.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: There's no jealousy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: There's some moments in moments I think I struggle with
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it a little bit more than he does sometimes, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: just it's not it. I don't know if it's jealousy.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: It's it's almost like, you know, I see him get
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: an opportunity, I'm excited for him. I'm so proud of him,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: and I don't want his opportunity. I don't want to
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: take something from him. But then I have that thought
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: in the back of my mind that I think is
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: pretty common. But then I'm kind of like, when's my
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: next turn? Because you know this industry, it's like you're
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: always waiting for the next opportunity. Every time you work
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: a job, you're you're on the top of the mountain.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: You feel like you're like like like ruling the world,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and then then what the next thing?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's someone always sitting in the pocket ready
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to take your place always, right.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you constantly feel like you're replaceable. I don't think
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I get jealous on my end just because.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Or you're a better human, healthyware.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: But I think for me and I think this is
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: why we work too, is when he does have those moments.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I'm very much in the mentality of what's for you
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: as for you, And so anytime we get an opportunity
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: or don't get an opportunity, it really is, yeah, you
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: might not have gotten this, or I might have gotten this,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: or you might have gotten this, but that just means
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: it wasn't meant for me or it wasn't meant for you.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And we've also just been through so much. I remember
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: there was a time I had a national talk show
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: on Hollywood to Stay Alive on Fox years ago, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: while I was hosting a national daily talk show, he
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: was also working on stuff and he was doing a
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: red carpet or something, and he usually would hire a
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: camera operator or a camera and a sound person.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I would hire no when I was broke. I would
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: have my best friend, but you didn't get any money, no.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Here, And one time it fell through, and so I
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: went and I was his camera and a sound operator
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: on a red carpet and its so many people we
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: ran into We're like, wait, a j what are you doing?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Like why do you have a headset on? And why
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: are you like holding a camera tripod? Because he needed
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: me to And that morning, I'm hosting a national talk show,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and that evening I'm on a red carpet in Westwood
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: helping him out. But then also on the flip side,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I'll be hosting you know, red carp for like the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Golden Globes, and I'm like, hey, Eil mel, I need
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: a picture of Lady Gaga. And he comes and takes
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a picture of lady like there was a epic photo.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: By the way, It's like five seconds to get that shot.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: It was so very super crisp and clear.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Like he does a talent in itself.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: He does my social media for me on all these
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: big red carpets I do and I interviewed the biggest
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: celebrities in the world, and he's right there by my
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: side posting on Instagram for me. So like, I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: that we don't have too much ego. Ego doesn't get
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: in the way right there to help each other.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't seem that way. And it seems like also,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you guys have have done something that many people try
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to do, which is take their career and their relationship
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and blend it into one and make it freaking work
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and be successful. Because that that is not easy. It
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: usually is a demise in people's relationships when they start
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: blending the two. You guys have done. You've conquered the impossible,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. And I think it's the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: ego that you put aside, right, I mean, help me.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, part of it. I think when you look at
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: like reality shows, I know you're in the reality space
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and like we look reality shows. Sometimes when a relationship
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: goes on reality show, you're like, oh God, it's not
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: gonna last, especially marriages and things. But I think for
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: us one, we're very particular. Like on our podcast, we
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: reveal a lot, like we have no filter probably, but
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: we still know like their secrets and things that we
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: have revealed. But there's so much that people don't know
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: about us, but people relate to us because we are
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: telling more than a lot of people tell. We're also
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: still we have our private things we keep with each other,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and I think the reason why it works is because
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: we do have this and maybe it's because we posted
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: together and been around each other for so long that
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: we have this uh rapport with each other and this trust.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: With each other and understanding, right yeah, and what's just
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: for us? Yeah, which makes me think that we're low
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: key kind of like wild because the stuff that we
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: do tell on our podcast is kind of insane. So
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we're keeping secrets that people don't know about
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: and they will never know about. And I think that
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: we didn't seek it out. We we were together for
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: almost eight years before we work together on camera.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Wow, So how long have you been together in total
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: then nine and a half almost.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Ten years now.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we met in the first time we met oi
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: camera was May twenty twelve, and then we started dating
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: in September of twenty twelve after I came out.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: And so I think our thing was so many of his,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: his followers or fans or supporters and mine separately, would
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: see us pop up on each other's social media and
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: they were always like, I want to see more of
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you guys together.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: And then he had a YouTube channel for a while
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: and it still does, but that it was just pretty solo.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And then he put up a video of us together.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I think it was like a boyfriend challenge or a
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: muckbong or like one of those like couples videos. We
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: never we have never none. We talked about it, we
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: did it the boyfriend question, the boyfriend boyfriend tag, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: it did really well and we're like, huh. And then
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: we put a couple of pictures up on Instagram like
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: it did really well. And then I remember a few
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: years ago we walked the red carpet at the Billboard
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Music Awards together.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: God, you guys are so fabulous. I keep telling me I.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Was hosting the red carpet for Dick Clark and they
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: produced a show and I'd done it for many years,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: and I said, I'm going to have Emil walk the
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: carpet with me this year. I've never done it, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: he at the time just put in perspective, like he says,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: he hosted like major red carpets all the time, so
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: he's walked the carpet, he's been photographed.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: By getting all these things for me. I was hosting
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: for Entertainment News Channel, but I was also still a
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: server at a restaurant, and so I was kind of like, ah,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I was scared. So while he was prepping and getting
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: ready for the show, I went to because Billboard Musical
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Words at the time was still in Vegas. Yeah, I
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: went to the FedEx Kinko's and whatever hotel we were
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: staying at. I think it was like New York, New York,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and I went and printed out my name on little strips,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: so just in case photographers didn't know who I was.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I was like prepared to hate it to them because
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know who he is, I don't
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: know who I am.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and then I picked out I got him
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: in a really like sexy black like suit with like
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: a mesh like tank top underneath. So I was like,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: you're hot, let's show it off. And we walked out there.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: He was so nervous, and I remember walking out there
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and I'm wearing like this like dope like linen like suit,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and I was working with Erica Jane. We're coasting that
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: together with a couple other people, and I said, grab
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: my hand and when I when I wake at you,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: lean in and give me a kiss, because I'm like,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: this is what the pop rozi, the press, They're going
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: to love this, right, So he does, he gives me
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a kiss. That picture went everywhere. It was featured in
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: so many different outlets. And the next year Billboard Music
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Awards were doing their promos for like the New Show,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and their whole theme for the promo is love is
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: in the Air, and it shows like couples from past
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Billboard Music Awards and it was Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: John Legend and Chrissy Teakan and a meal at me.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: You've made it, I know, and we're like.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Wait, what, Like that's that's wild. Yeah, So that was
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: sort of our like because that's a queer person if
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: you kind of come out a lot, especially if you're
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: in like a certain industry, like you come out over
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: and over and over again. And we've kind of feel
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: like that was like another coming out for us, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: from that point forward, like let's just do stuff together,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: not being afraid and just go yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, So, aj, when when did you come out?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I've been out. Gosh, I've been out for twenty two
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: years almost.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: You're from like a little town right, Ohio.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Down Ohio?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, Ohio. So were you living in la when
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: when you came out or no?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I No, I was still in college. So I was
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a sophomore at the University of Toledo at the time.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I had gone there actually to run track, got sort
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: of overwhelmed by it all, and I ended up playing
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: volleyball in college for two years. And my sophomore year
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I actually came out at the college. And this is
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: so funny. Do you know Jonathan Bennett. I'm sure you do. Yes,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Bennett, the actor. So yeah, mean girls, And yeah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: he's getting married to our friend James next month.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: So Jonathan and I were friends in high school.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And Jonathan, Yeah, Jonathan actually was good friends with my
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: cousin Betsy. Betsy it's a very Ohio name, and we
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: were hanging out at her graduation party. She's a year
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Olderly he's like, oh, your cousin AJ is gay, by
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: the way, and she's like, no, he's not, and he's like, yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: he is. And I was like and he clocked me totally.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And he ended up being one of my very first
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: friends ever. And so he and his group of friends
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: sort of took me under their wing and we became friends.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: When I was, you know, a high school going into college.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I was about nineteen twenty years old when I actually
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: really came out, and so, yeah, so I came out,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: then dropped out of college for a couple of years
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: because I really just was struggling with it and my
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: family wasn't really that cool with it, and I kind
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: of went into a pretty deep depression for a little bit,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: but ended up getting back into college, transferred to Ohio State,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: graduated from there, and then as soon as I did that,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I moved to New York for a year. Then I
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: moved out here fifteen years ago.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I know when I asked these questions,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's such a and I'm not minimizing
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it in my mind because I grew up in Utah
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and most people don't know this. We have one of
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the largest gay pride parades per capitat. It is in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake, which was like a very moment for me,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you know, coming from Utah. And so when people ask
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: these questions, I'm like, I feel like it's so dated
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to still be talking about this being a thing. And
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: then I feel like we still have to have the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: conversation because you're talking about your family struggled with it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I've had friends and their families struggle with it. Emil,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you're from a family, your father's a pastor. Your mother,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I believe you said, is Jamaican and aj was you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: know the first that was that your first love, your
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: only love, and it was when you came out, Like
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: what was that like it?
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: And you know another before and before he kind of
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: or I don't know if it was you might have
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: we might have done the boyfriend tag. And then after
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: we did the boyfriend tag on my channel, people were
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: kind of asking for the coming out story and so
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: I did, like the video explain my coming out story,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: and I think for me, it was definitely difficult because
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I just have a super religious family, and I was
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: terrified and I was honestly prepared to just live in
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: the closet for my whole life because there's just so
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: many layers of feeling like you're going to hell, feeling
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: like you're being just like was the family going to think?
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Like all these different things. And the network that we
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: met on, I actually wanted to work behind the scenes,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: and they put me in front of the camera as
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: a host, but I was repaired again to not even
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: though I love being in front of the camera, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: love entertaining. I was prepared to just kind of live
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: in the shadows because I was so afraid of presenting myself,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Like if you watch some of the earlier videos for
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: the first few years.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: So awkward.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I was constantly thinking about, Okay, what am I doing
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: with my hands? Like if I'm talking, like I want
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: to make sure I'm talking the straight way, and like
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: looking at It's just so many different things that are
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: going through your head.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I've seen throwbacks of you versus like how you are
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: yeah today, and there is a huge difference.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: It's wild. Like I was so I was so afraid
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: to be who I actually am and just whenever you
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: live in this space of inauthenticity, I think one people
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: can read that and then once you truly just because
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: regardless of I think, I don't think coming out is dated.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: And I only say that because there's so many people
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: who are not living in la or a.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Big stiene what I mean.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: They still need to hear these stories. They need to
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: hear how we navigated this, because it's so easy to say, oh,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: we come such a long way, when there's still kids
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: who are struggling with this and who need to have
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: somebody who look up to or hear a story to say, oh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: maybe if I take this router, I see how A
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: mill did it or how aj did it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: This gives me hope because for every like it's great
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: to see shows like Euphoria and Saved by the Belt.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: The way they handled Josie Toto's story as a transgender
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: woman as an actress is really beautiful and it seems
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: like they just kind of like, I love it. It's
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: great that like this younger generation will be like the
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: kind of like brush past it and it is one
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: of this. It doesn't need to be a big thing.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: But the reality is, you know, I host a national
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: talk show, a queer talk show every single morning on
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Channel Q called The Morning Bee. Right, and we're the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: first and only LGBTQ plus talk radio station in the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: entire country in twenty twenty two, we're the only ones
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: still and I'm very proud of that. But I mean,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: right now, in Florida, you know, Governor DeSantis and this
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Republican allieser are pushing that don't Say Gay bill, making
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: it illegal to say the word gay in schools in
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the entire state of Florida. And because of that, also,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Tennessee just just brought forth legislation this week, and other
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: states across the country now doing the exact same thing.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: They're trying to make it illegal to say the word
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: gay in any context. They talk about your gay uncle,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: your gay aunts, your gay dad, like your gay friend.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: They're trying to make it illegal to even say the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: word in school. And we're talking kay through twelve. So
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: it might seem like we've come so far, and we
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: have in some ways, but that, by no means doesn't
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: mean that like the coming out story, it's different now
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: maybe for some people, but where I come from, it's
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: just as hard to come out today. As it probably
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was when I came out twenty years ago, and that's problematic.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: You both put that so beautifully, and that's exactly like
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: like you said, not everyone's living in Los Angeles, where
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you know, we're out here, we're being exactly who we are.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: We forget that the little dynamics that we have, the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: friend groups, the family where we come from. It's still
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: a huge thing. And so when I say it seems dated,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I know that it's not, but it should be.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Oh I wish it were right. I know we can
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: have and if we could have big pride parades in
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: very Mormon Salt Lake City, we could we could start
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: doing more all over the country.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I think that your talk show that's amazing.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy that it's twenty twenty two and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's the only one in the country. And you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I am definitely excited for people to hear this podcast
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: because I mean, look at the platform that you guys
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: are on and what you're doing, and then you're such
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: an ally to the LGBTQ plus community. I mean, you're
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: really doing it all and looking fabulous wile while you're
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I wish my listeners could see you guys right now,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: not see me, but see you guys. I mean every
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: straight woman. I'm sure when you guys walk into a place,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: they're like, damn it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: What's funny? Becaus we sold. My best friend Drew also,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: her birthday is coming up, having birthday. Whenever I hang
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: out with her, because granted I both of us, we
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: are kind of masculine presenting for the most part, and
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: so people don't necessarily look at us sometimes don't necessarily
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: look at us all the time and say, oh, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: can just see it. They're gay. And so when I'm
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: hanging out with her, especially if I'm in like a
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: muscle tank or whatever and we're hanging out. I was
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: at her apartment helping her film this audition the other day,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and I was in my tank topping some shorts and
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: there's this guy in her building. Hope, I don't think
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: she'll care what I'm telling you. There's this guy in
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: her building that she has a crush on. So she
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: literally sees him and she knocks in the window and
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: says hi, and then she's like, oh shit, you're with me,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: flame out, flame out. So I know whenever she says that,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, I just do something so like they
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: know that I'm gay because she's had guys before. They
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: see me with her and they think that we're a couple.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Right, Every gay man, every gay man in America who
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: is a little bit who's maybe not totally like feminine
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: presenting right now, could relate to that. Yeah, Like, listen, honey,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I can be as gay as the day as long.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: We have a wig drawer, we have feather BoA's Hills.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely we do, and we love everything of it. But
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: day in day out, like we are just who we are,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: right and we don't have a ton of super feminine
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: qualities naturally, So sometimes we have to kind of help
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: our friends.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Out and.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Way, yeah, don't be a cog blog for the friend,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: like do something to let them know we are not together.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So I have to go back to what you said.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: You said that you guys, and I relate to this
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: because even though I'm on reality TV, you know, you
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: guys are hosts and when people watch you, they they
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: almost expect for you to share every single part about
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: your life. And there's been times on vander Pump where
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I have a therapy session, and you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the cameras want to be there and they're like, but
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: this is your real life, And I say, in real life,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I don't invite anyone to my therapy sessions, so get
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the fuck out.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that you You still keep that
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: those moments to yourselves. But you said you were sitting
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: on the bed naked talking to each other. I'm newly single.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to bag me a boo. Do I need
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to sit on a bed naked and tell him my deepest,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: darkest secrets to bag a good man?
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Not yet?
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: How long?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends, so I would. I would have.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: That's not a date one.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we we did that like year five or six. Nothing,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: I have to wait that long because we we do
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: like for the people our friends who are in relationships,
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: we do kind of advise into our listeners. We tell
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: them that it's a beautiful thing to do because it
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: was scary. We were built things to each other. We
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: never like said publicly what we were build, but we
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: both re built things to each other that we were
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: so terrified to reveal to each other. Obviously, when it
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: came to desires and fantasies, like you talk about the
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: things that you want sexually, you're in life and it's like, oh,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: that's hot.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Certain, yeah, sure.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: But then when you get to like things that maybe
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you've done in the past you never told your partner,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: then it's kind of it's a vulnerable position. But I
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: think what made it beautiful is it was hard to
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: hear some of those things on both sides. But after
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: a few days, when you sit with that, it's like,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: if you were willing to bear your soul and trust
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: me with this information and I also received that from you,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: and we're literally laying everything out on the table, it
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: just creates this bonding and this.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah you've got there's got to be mutual trust of.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it could go go you go south.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: You can go two ways. If one person is ready
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to open up and be vulnerable and reveal like maybe, hey,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: maybe I messed up earlier in the relationship, or maybe
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I did something that isn't really like in the highest
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: version of myself, and maybe I disrespected you or a
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: relationship in some way, shape or form. And if one
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: person is willing to admit that and to say that,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and the other person's not willing to receive it or
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: allow space for forgiveness, you're doomed.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: So and and and it's not that there was like cheat,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: you know, all that kind of stuff going on in
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: a relationship, but there was there was like very like
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: borderline stuff happening. And I messed up early on in
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: a relationship a little bit, to be honest, and and
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: it was cheating, and it was in my mind it
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: was sort of justified at the time because we were
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: still kind of going through some stuff and I wasn't
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: really sure if it was a forever situation for me.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Like full of transparency. I didn't know this, but at
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: the time when that situation occurred, he was pretty much
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: getting ready to break.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Up with you.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I can see how in his mind
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: he might not have seased like I'm about to leave
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: this guy anyway. He didn't know is I'm a millionaire
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: junior and I was prepared to fight for events. Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I had a little tricks when I realized he was
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: checking out, But.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't know. We lived together briefly at the beginning
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: of our relationship, and part of the thing was like
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I broke up. We broke up for like what eight
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: hours was yeah, and then in my mind, I'm like, okay, well,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I'm checked out. I'm done at this relationship and it's
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: just a matter of time before he's actually officially all
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: the way moved.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Out, which that was too. So we moved in together
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: after maybe nine months of dating. And we moved in
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: together at the time back in twenty thirteen, for financially,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: we were both broke.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: He was a bar so I was gonna say nine
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: months is quick.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It was like one of those situations where he
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: was a bartender and doing the hosting dream. I was
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: working for a production company and doing the hosting dream,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: but neither like I was making like one hundred dollars
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: a day after tax nothing, So we were just broke
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: and we were like, oh, you know, you're over here
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: all the time, so.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Why don't you move reason to ever move in?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no. I will say this to couples
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: if you are in a relationship, you guys just started dating,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you're over at your partner's place
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: every single day, you visiting them and stay in their space,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: versus you actually moving in completely changes that you never.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Brush and a clean pair of underwear. That's fine, but
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: don't move in the right absolutely absolutely right.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: And there was a roommate too. It was just a
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: lot of la to it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Chaos, that is chaos. Okay, So you got engaged when
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: did you get engaged?
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Christmas of twenty twenty?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Okay? And did you have plans to get married? Did
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the pandemic mess up the wedding plans at all? Or
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: did you always want? I mean, you guys have been
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: together a long time.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Kind of honestly, like, what's the rush? Right?
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: So that's a common law married by now, well, I
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Does that always does that exist in California? I don't know.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that really is, but I will
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: say that listen, Yeah, it's been a long time, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: you alsotart to think that we have not legally been
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: able to get married only for like the last five
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: or six years. So the first few years of our relationship,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: marriage was never on our radar because it wasn't legal.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: So it's not like maybe maybe you grew up having
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: an idea or your girlfriends grew up having an idea
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: of like marriage someday. Right, you have this picture, the
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: wedding dress, the big thing whatever. We didn't have that
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: because we never thought that was going to be a possibility. Right.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: So so then all of a sudden a few years ago,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: we get we get the option. I had planned actually
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: to propose a bunch of different ways, because he let
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: me know for a long time that he went in
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: something big and like over the top.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Is how like not like a flash dance models, Like
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: we gotta be a flash model.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So I thought I had to do something really really cool,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, Okay, well, he wants to make content
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: out of this, so this has to be a YouTube video,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: So what can I do? And I had, I had,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I talked to my friends at Dick Clark. We thought
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: about maybe doing it on the Billboard Music Awards Red
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: carpet that spring a couple of years back in twenty nine.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: You're twenty twenty, I think twenty twenty one, and we
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: thought about doing that, and then that got canceled. And
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: then I was talking to my team over at Wendy
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Williams and she was going to help me propose to
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: him live on the air, on like a Valentine's Day
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: episode or something. And then also I'm friends with Genie
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: May and I've worked with her in the past, and
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I've also worked with Garcel and Lannie and he's on
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: the reel. He's been there for a couple three years now,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: and so then I thought, okay, maybe I can reach
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: out a genie and we can do like maybe a
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: proposal on the reel, like all these cool ideas that
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I was running through my head, right, and then the
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: pandemic happens, and then I'm like, oh, so I just
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: kind of waited, waited, waited, and I was like, okay, well,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: this is only going to be like two weeks, like
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: everybody thought it was gonna be two weeks when I started, right,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: And so then two weeks goes by, and then two
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: months go by, then six months go by it and I'm
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: like okay, and all of a sudden, the whole year's
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: gone by. I'm like, I haven't proposed this whole time. Why,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Like what am I waiting for him? Waiting for the
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: pandemic to be over. It could be over in another day,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: or it could be ten more years. We didn't know.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Hey, we could still be in it now.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: This is like pre vaccine, pre everything, right, And so
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: finally I decided to do it on Christmas morning and
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: involve our parents, both sides, and so we had we
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: had a zoom setup so we could record it, and
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: then I.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Had we were supposed to COVID ruin that we were
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: supposed to spend the holidays with our family, were supposed
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: to go to my family for Thanksgiving, his family for Christmas,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: and so at the time I didn't really think anything
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: of it because we were already planning on doing that
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: zoom since we weren't able to spend holidays with them.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: But it turned out that he was proposing it was
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: really sweet.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we didn't.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't. We didn't. As far as like actual
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: wedding planning goes, I don't think that our wedding planning
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: hasn't like COVID hasn't really ruined that it's tried multiple
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: times stressful though, because we're doing a destination wedding and
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: so we have a lot of people who are traveling
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: and when you see, oh, now there's this new variant
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: and it's spiking Andy, We're like, oh God. So it's
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: like there's this anxiety that bubbles up because we're trying
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: to move forward. We're trying to just move forward and
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: just trust everything's in the workout, but also like the
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: COVID of it all Yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Also asking our family to you. I had that. My
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: dad is seventy years old and got a passport for
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: the first time in his life. Wow, the Mexico for
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: our wedding. So to ask people to go to a
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: foreign country, uh, during a pandemic into like drug cartel land.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: It says literally, we have family members who have never
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: been to Mexico. Some of them never trial out of
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: the country, and because they're in their small communities and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: they don't travel, they only see what they see on TV.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: And sometimes they're looking at the headlines all negative. And
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: so I've had to we both had to tell some
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: family members. Okay, so you're saying that there's a shooting
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: or drug cartel in Mexico. Okay, look down the street
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: in Atlanta. Yeah, literally where I'm from, like or look
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: at LA, Like any community you're in, you can find
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: that if you're looking for.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Literally, we're a friend of ours was like mugged recently
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: in LA in Beverly Hills.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So wait, you guys, you and your families need a show,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: and it should be based on getting them to Mexico
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: for the wedding.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I would watch God's Ears.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: I would watch that and we have. We've been pretty
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: open on social media about the struggles of dealing with
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: family members who aren't as supportive as we thought. So
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, I don't care talking about this publicly.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: I I've said to them, I haven't talked to some
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: of those members, but to anytime I'm on television, on
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: a hosting, on a show, or they see me on TV,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, a mil We're so proud of you,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: like paragraphs, oh this is my nephew, or we go
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: visit and they make me dinner and they love me.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: But then when it comes to the wedding stuff, all
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, we're getting like the client rvps, and
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: then we're finding out from other family members the reason
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: why they're not supportive, and I'm like, so, I think
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: that really messes with my brain and it makes it
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: feel as if if I wasn't on TV, if I
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: wasn't in the career that I'm in, would you still
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: support me or be excited to have me as your
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: nephew or do you only still tolerate me because I'm
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: that famous And I'm not even famous, but that's how
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: they view when I go out because your fiance is
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: on Wendy William watch it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: So it's tricky to kind of realize what family members
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: actually think of us. And it doesn't mean they don't
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: love us, but it also hurts like your love doesn't trump,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: like your beliefs. You can't support my own sister, my
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: own full blooded sister is not coming to the wedding
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: because she just can't get there. She just has new
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: faith that she's come into in recent years and and
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden she believes God, you know, did
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: not make me this way, and she can't support it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: And so that's that's been devastating. But we've tried really
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: hard to not take it as personally as humanly possible,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: even though that's not possible, but to try to focus
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: on all of the people who are willing to fly
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: before country.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: Of them.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Want people who are supportive of us there, because those
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: are people when you're going through any rocky moments in
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: your marriage, you want people who were there who know
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: the foundation and are there to support you through those times,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: and not people who are just there pretending like they
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: are right.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: And it would it would ruin the entire celebration having
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: someone there that really didn't support the love. It's it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: like I wish you wouldn't have come, And yeah, I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: have so much respect for you both, and I'm so
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: happy for you, and and just the the uphill climb
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that it seems like, you know, being in Hollywood doing
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: what you do for a living on top of you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: dealing with a wedding that family members are not supportive of.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It's something that a lot of us can't fathom. But
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy to have you on the podcast
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to like have people feel less alone. And before I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: let you guys go, that wedding's going to be fabulous,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I want to like.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Commend you though for saying that though, because as an ally,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: that's a really beautiful thing to say, because just that
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: acknowledgment of I can't even fathom, like those words coming
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: from an ally who's maybe not a queer person to
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: say that a couple like us who's kind of in
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: this like vulnerable sort of emotional state means a lot,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: not just to us, but your listeners who might be
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: you know, cleer and maybe wherever they are on their
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: own journey, words like that go a long way. So
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I just want to say thank you, for that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you saying that I do whatever I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: possibly can, but I will never pretend like I can
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: understand because I can't. I'm a white woman who identifies
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: as a straight person. I don't have adversity in many
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: ways that others do. So thank you for sharing and
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: being so vulnerable on this podcast. And I think the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: one thing that I would like you both to share
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: before I let you sign off and you don't have
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to look at me anymore. You know, these these young
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: kids are you know, maybe someone older who who feels
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: so inspired to come out and just be who they
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: are in these small places. They see you, but then
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: they realize where they really are stuck. What is your
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: advice to them? Because you've both come from from backgrounds
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like that, and look at where you are now, I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: think people would appreciate hearing your advice.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I would say that you're not as alone as you think.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: There are other queer people in your community, and as
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: safely and as comfortably as you can as you navigate
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: those early those early days, find them trying to try
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: to find a way to find them, because it's so
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: important that whatever it is that makes you you in
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: life and That could be your sexuality, it could be
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: your desires, it could be your creativity. Whatever it is,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: whatever your outlet ther thing is, you need to get
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: it out of you. And I believe that we're put
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: on this planet to share whatever that gift is, right,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: and you can't share it if you're hiding it inside
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: of you. So find one person, and that person will
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: lead you to another person and lead you to another person.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: And that one person, oftentimes is maybe a girlfriend at
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: a school or an aunt or like that one person
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: who's a little more kind and a little more compassionate,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: a little more empathetic. And if they're that way about
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: other things, chances are they might be that way about
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: you too, And that can open you up to like
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: a whole different world, because I get it, Like small
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: towns are scary and they're not always the most accepting,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: the most loving of anybody who's different, but also also
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: they can surprise you, Like my small town is pretty
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: like messed up in some ways, but in some ways
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: there are people there that are really incredible and really
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: wonderful and loving and they just want an opportunity to
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: love on you. So give them the opportunity, but do
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: it on a timeline in a way that feels safe
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: and authentic to you.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's beautiful. And I think for me
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: and I can only come from the experience of if
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I were to talk to my younger, So I think
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing I would say is you can't focus
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: on other people's opinions of you. I know, for me,
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: when I was in the closet, I was so focused
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: on do they know I'm gay? Like constantly thinking about
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: all these different things. And when you focus so much
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: on what other people think and you aren't truly being
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: who you are, and even if it is like scary,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying if if you aren't in a
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: place that you feel safe being exclusively expressive of your sexuality,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: I completely get that safety comes first. But I was
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: hiding in so many ways where I felt like I
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: had to create a version of myself that it's just
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: it's hard for me to look back at that person,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: knowing the hurt and the pain that I was dealing
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: with every single day. And so I would just I
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: would just kind of similar to AJ in terms of
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: if you can find that outlet or you can find
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: that person. For me, it was TV shows. So it
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: was watching like will like all of me. It was
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: the Grassy also like watching the Grassy and scene I
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: think it was. It was Marco. Marco was like the
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: gay character. Like if you can find some type of
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: way to relate or now, I mean we're older, but
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: now you can get on YouTube, we're snapchat whatever and
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: see queer people who may be in an area that
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: you're not from, but you can see how they express
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: themselves and what they deal with. Then you hear their stories.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Social media is really yeah, not always for the best,
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: but it has changed the game and.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: All find the way. I I don't necessarily like saying
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: it gets better because life is hard so many ways,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: but just know that if you truly focus on being
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: the authentic person and following that path, that you can
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: find joy. It may not be easy every single day,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: but you can find joy.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: And also, if nothing else, just listen to the Confessor
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: mess podcast because it's queer as Fun and we have
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of really fantastic guests on there, and you'll
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: feel represented. You do like, you'll feel like you'll feel
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: like your life is nearly as message you thought.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I love that. Oh my gosh, y'all give
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: me chills. I'm like Beyon Honor to have you on
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the give Them La La podcast. And where can people
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: find you?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Guys, you can find me, I think everywhere at a
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Millionaire Junior maybe on TikTok at a million is Junior
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: thirty one because I can't get my name for some reason.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: And then the podcast is at confessor mess podcast on
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: Instagram and at Confessed podcast on Twitter.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just this is such a douchey thing,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: but just google me, like AJ Gibson. Now go to
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: aj gibsontv dot com if my website. You can find
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: everything there. I also I'm an author. I wrote a
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: book called Flipping the Script. You can buy a copy there.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: And there's also I'm a public speaker. I do a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: lot of other side things, but a true story. I
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: can't get AJ Gibson on Instagram, so it's underscore AJ Gibson.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Because there's a mother in I think North Dakota whose
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: daughter does vallet, who has the name AJ Gibson. Her
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: name is not Aju, and I've tried to buy it
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: from her many times. She will not sell it to me.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: So I'm under or Aja Gibson on Instagram.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I so relate to not being able
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: to get your name. It's the most annoying thing. You
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: guys are amazing. I hope that you enjoy the rest
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: of your day and thank you so much.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you loves.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Before I let you guys go, I want to do
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: a voicemail, but I also want to remind you that
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going on tour. I know a lot of you
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: are like, you're not a comedian, you're not a performer.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: What does this tour entail? Well, it entails you having
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the best night of your fucking life. I promise you
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to give you all the feels between
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: us getting to know each other, playing games, feeling inspired.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: You want me to call somebody, put them on speed dial,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: because I'm about to call them for you. We have
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of different segments. It's going to be amazing.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: We are starting off in Irvine, California, but you can't
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: come to that because I'm soldad motherfuckers. Then we're going
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to Fort Lauderdale, Clearwater, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville, New Orleans, Houston, Austin,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and Dallas. You can find all of these dates and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: cities on my Instagram page at Lala Kent Jess. Can
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: you play a voicemail for me? Yes? I can.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Hey, Lala, this is Christina from West Palm Beach. I
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: just wanted to Colin tell you how much I love
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: you and how much you guys got me through the quarantine.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: You and my boyfriend Vanner Pumps is what we've binge
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: watched during the quarantine and is is just what helped
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: us got to get it through. It's, I guess our
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: question for you that we always wonder is what is
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: your family's reactions to things that they see on Vandard Pumps? Again?
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: Love you, Thank you so much for everything and for
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: always being you and giving us Lala Love you.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Christina. First of all, I developed an obsession with Vanner
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Bumples during Quarantine as well.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I had never seen any episode or any season before
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I entered season four because I'm just that vain. I'm like,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: if I'm not on it, what's there to watch? Just kidding, really,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I started from season one and I was like,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: this is the most amazing show and I am honored,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: yeah to be a part of it. Yeah, you know.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, these are the OG's and they deserve
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: so much credit because this is the best television I've
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: ever watched, So we have die in common, Christina. My
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: family doesn't watch the show. They don't know. My family
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't watch the show. And I don't even think it's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: because they don't want to see me in certain situations,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: because they know me. I'm the same person on television
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: that I am, you know, behind a little more sensitive.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Behind closed doors.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would get to if you took
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: my interactions with my family and you edit it down,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: you would probably see the same thing that you see
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: on Vanner Pumpin right right, But like there's no need
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: for them to watch it. In their minds, they're like
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: not interesting, right Yeah. Yeah, I try to get them too.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, my mom hasn't read my book. I don't
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: know that I want her to read my book, but
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: she knows everything, you know, every blow job I've ever given,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: every time I've popped off or clap back on someone.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as you guys learned from last week's episode, they're
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: a very open family.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, clearly we have to mention at all, so they
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: don't they don't watch, And I tell my mom about
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: things that happen, and I'm sure if she watched it
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: on TV, she may have a different reaction, like everyone
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: seeing me yeah ah, or everyone read that in your book?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know when you were first on the show.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Did they watch it?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: And then? Oh? Nothing? No? Wow, nothing, that's cool. Like
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I had to call my dad to fill them in
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: on me cussing too much because I got too drunk
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: on watch Wabbits Live my first time. Oh he was like,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: first of all, what is this show you're talking about?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Why are you in New York? What's happening? That's good though, Yeah,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I just I don't think they were interested, and like,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't think. Oh it's Monday or whatever night
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: we air. Now I gotta tune in to my kid
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: on vander Pump Rules, Like my mom would much rather
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: be watching twenty twenty and Easton watches his sports and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: my dad was like into watching CSI.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like that though, Oh, because you're right,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: they already know you, so why watch? And then you
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: never have to worry about like ooh, maybe that scene
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't great, but my family's not gonna see it, so
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: who cares.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't care if they did see it. Yeah,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: but it's nice because then when I call my family,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: like a lot of my cast members like, oh my
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: mom or my sister whoever is obsessing over this last episode.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, my mom just called me to tell
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  Speaker 1: me that, like there's drama at her work and like
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  Speaker 1: they're really trying to get this dog adopted.
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  Speaker 2: I love Lisa, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that, Jess. Do you want to play me
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  Speaker 1: another voicemail before we wrap it up? Yes?
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  Speaker 5: I do?
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  Speaker 1: Can we wrap it up? Do you remember? Wait? What
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  Speaker 1: is that? Season four? And Katie mall or No Christ
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  Speaker 1: and Doni and Stossy's speech at the fucking engagement party
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  Speaker 1: of Katie's and I'm like, can we wrap it up?
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  Speaker 1: I would if someone did that to me at my
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  Speaker 1: engagement party, serious, I would claw your eyes out. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, god, they're so classy.
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  Speaker 2: Can we wrap it up?
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  Speaker 3: Love?
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  Speaker 1: And I go, what the fuck are you talking about?
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  Speaker 6: It icon't And then they flashed me with my drunk
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  Speaker 6: shit sue looking hair and I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, next voicemail, next voicemail.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, longline, Jess, my name is Haley from Iowa. I
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  Speaker 7: just wanted to say I listened to your book on
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  Speaker 7: Audible and I loved it. I want to say thank
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  Speaker 7: you for being so unapologetically yourself. It's refreshing for reality TV.
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  Speaker 7: My question is, if you were a housewife, what would
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  Speaker 7: be your tagline? Thank you so much for your time,
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  Speaker 7: have a good day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh hey, Haley, I'm in a mood today. Is there
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  Speaker 1: any way that I could just like, you know how
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  Speaker 1: they always like do a little flip around, couldn't I
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  Speaker 1: just like flip around and be like, give them La
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  Speaker 1: La Enough.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking said, Enough fucking said, yeah, they can bleep that
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  Speaker 2: part out. Enough said, yeah, Well that'd be good.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be good.
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  Speaker 2: Which housewife's franchise would you want to be on? Salt Lake?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, yeah, it take whatever I think to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: But where do you want to move me? Where do
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  Speaker 1: I fit in? Salt Lake? Would be a good one though, right,
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of times I see them arguing and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Lala needs to come shut this shit down. Yeah,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Lala needs to come spill mad knowledge. They have Heather
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  Speaker 1: Gay whose like voice of reason always and she makes
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  Speaker 1: all the sense in the world, and I could watch
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  Speaker 1: her twenty four to seven, And same with Whitney they're
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  Speaker 1: called bad Weather. You wouldn't know that guy when you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: don't watch bad Weather. They're such a vibe. But they
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  Speaker 1: need la la with them.
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  Speaker 2: Okay with with those Yes, Yes, let's function up. I
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, giving them all a run for their money.
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  Speaker 2: That give them Lala, Let's funck shit up.
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  Speaker 1: That's so funny. Give them Laala, Let's funck shit up.
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  Speaker 1: That's my tagline. Good. No, next week, I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: an epic tagline and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 1: guys what it would be. I gotta think on it.
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  Speaker 4: Though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them are great. In others I'm like, yeah,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: not so great. You should have told producers Wrongo, it
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: didn't happen. All right, you guys, I love you so much.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that I see you on the Give Them
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  Speaker 1: Laala brand New Tour. You guys are fucking awesome for
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: tuning in, and I hope that you enjoyed this episode
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  Speaker 1: and I will talk to you next week.