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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 8-13-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill, and Producer Steve · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 4: Welcome everybody, Doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hower. It is August thirteenth, thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: Has always been my lucky number twenty and twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, I think we are all here. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: We got Susie and producer Steve, and I think we
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  Speaker 4: got Bill. But are you there? Bill?
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  Speaker 1: Ye? Mostly that's what I like.
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  Speaker 4: Mostly, all right, So we got everybody. Producer Steve's hiding
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  Speaker 4: back there behind the curtain. Susie's out there. So Susie
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  Speaker 4: and Bill go ahead and say hello Susie.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Alrighty, so the opening gate has sounded tonight We're gonna
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  Speaker 4: touch on bruising, and a lot of people bruise real easy.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people get cut and keep bleeding forever,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of times this is a simple but
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  Speaker 4: very complicated problem that has had many partners along the
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  Speaker 4: way before you got to this point. So we will
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  Speaker 4: discuss all that. And of course we've got the most
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  Speaker 4: wonderful songs, the fabulous jokes. That's why everybody's here, I
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  Speaker 4: know that, and the interesting Bill's weekly topic, Susie's recipes,
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  Speaker 4: and you never know. Our producer Seve's able to jump
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  Speaker 4: in at any minute, so we'll just move right along there.
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  Speaker 4: I did have one little thing. I've been watching politics
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  Speaker 4: a little bit and it sickens me on a pretty
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  Speaker 4: regular basis, but it is kind of interesting to watch
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  Speaker 4: what's going on. And it seems like right now everybody
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  Speaker 4: that was attacking President Trump and trying to say he
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  Speaker 4: did this and he did that, and what they did
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  Speaker 4: to him in New York where they said he cheated
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  Speaker 4: investors but all the investors said, no, he did and
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  Speaker 4: we're fine, and they still found him guilty. What a
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  Speaker 4: surprise in New York. So now everybody that went after
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  Speaker 4: him and admitted they were going after him. Leticia James
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  Speaker 4: in New York ran on the fact that she was
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  Speaker 4: going to get Trump for something she didn't know what.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, now they're all in the hot seat. Adam
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  Speaker 4: Schiff that I forget that guy's name Stalwart or something, stallwell,
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  Speaker 4: I think maybe he's in the hot seat. Nancy Pelosi's
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  Speaker 4: in the hot seat. So it's kind of funny. It's
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  Speaker 4: like a good old fashioned soap opera when you were
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  Speaker 4: a kid and mom was watching it while she ironed,
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  Speaker 4: so kind of enjoyable. So anyway, I just had to
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  Speaker 4: point that out that the tables have turned, and it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of it. You're seeing almost funny right now, where
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  Speaker 4: normally politics is pretty boring. Okay, So if you know
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  Speaker 4: somebody or yourself and you notice that you bruise easily
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  Speaker 4: and it takes a while for them to go away,
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  Speaker 4: there's what they call a really bad bruise, and then
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  Speaker 4: there's the ones that in the easily bruised category that
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  Speaker 4: turn black and blue. And a lot of times people say,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I did, and that all they
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  Speaker 4: did is bump something and they didn't think much about it,
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  Speaker 4: but it because of their condition. It has a bruise,
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  Speaker 4: and if you talk to people, and I've been told
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  Speaker 4: this a lot, and I was just told this recently.
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  Speaker 4: Also that the other side of the medical coin likes
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  Speaker 4: to tell you at a certain age it's just normal.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not true. Every problem that you ever experience
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  Speaker 4: there's something, usually at a nutrient level that's missing or
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  Speaker 4: not enough of her too much of something maybe if
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  Speaker 4: it's synthetic confectionated. And so what you have to look
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  Speaker 4: at is today everybody thinks that they can Google doctor
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  Speaker 4: and they're going to be able to figure everything out. Well,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't work that way. And one of the reasons
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  Speaker 4: doctors get good at what they do is thousands of
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  Speaker 4: patients that they worked with and troubleshooted and listened to
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  Speaker 4: and learn from. And you can't get that google doctoring.
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  Speaker 4: And Google got caught several years ago by the British
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  Speaker 4: Journal of Medicine scamming it up and they had to
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  Speaker 4: pay a serious fine because what they were doing if
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  Speaker 4: you punched in some symptoms, it was programmed to make
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  Speaker 4: sure you had the worst case scenario and you needed
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  Speaker 4: the pharmacy and surgery probably, and they got nailed for that.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think it changed because everybody tells me, well,
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  Speaker 4: I looked it up and it said this, and they're
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  Speaker 4: really scared. But the bruising thing, you got to go
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  Speaker 4: back to the very basics. Number one, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people were taking medications that they never should have taken
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  Speaker 4: to begin with, but for whatever reason, they went down
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  Speaker 4: that road and it did a lot of damage. It
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  Speaker 4: damaged the gut and the good gut flora, the digestive enzymes,
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  Speaker 4: the stomach acid. It messed up with your gallbladder and
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  Speaker 4: your liver and your stomach, and it's just a big nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: And then what happens is a lot of people take
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  Speaker 4: the medications, and even when they stop the medications, because
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  Speaker 4: almost every patient I ever had ends up stopping the
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  Speaker 4: stuff after I get to see them, they still have
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  Speaker 4: lingering effects. And so you can try to eat good
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  Speaker 4: and drink good and do all the right stuff. But
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  Speaker 4: if your digestion is wrong, if the gut's not healthy,
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  Speaker 4: if you don't have the right digestive enzymes and stomach acid,
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  Speaker 4: and if your gallbladder and liver aren't functioning as a team,
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  Speaker 4: you're in trouble. And if things don't process through the
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  Speaker 4: small intestine from the stomach on their way to the
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  Speaker 4: illeo seco valve to the large intestine. Then you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to absorb the nutrients you need and you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have lots of problems, well, things like bruising. You might
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  Speaker 4: be eating an orange tree full of oranges, but the
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  Speaker 4: nutrients aren't getting processed in your gut, or maybe your
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  Speaker 4: gut is not quite right and you're eating pretty good,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not enough to offset the damage of the
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  Speaker 4: medications from however long you took them, and usually people
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  Speaker 4: take things pretty long. So then you're trying to eat right,
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to drink the right things, you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: do all the right stuff. But you bump your arm
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  Speaker 4: and there's a bruise, and you're thinking, why, well, it
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  Speaker 4: could be a lot of things. My very first thing
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  Speaker 4: if somebody walks in and they're bruising, is we're going
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  Speaker 4: to do something like diaplex because it's got digestive enzyme,
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  Speaker 4: stomach acid, it's got liver, gallbladders, fleen, kidneys, urinary tract,
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  Speaker 4: it's got everybody, and that way, I know we're getting
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  Speaker 4: worse at the start point with digestion. I know we're
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  Speaker 4: going to be right. Then we got to make sure,
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  Speaker 4: like any kind of issue where your capillaries and veins
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  Speaker 4: and arteries are fragile, we've got to make sure you
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  Speaker 4: got plenty of natural nutrients, like natural vitamin C, because
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  Speaker 4: varicose veins bruising, all that stuff has got to do
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  Speaker 4: with natural vitamin C and the arteries, veins capillaries not
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  Speaker 4: being healthy also they need natural vitamin E, and E
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  Speaker 4: and C play some very similar parts in the body.
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  Speaker 4: And then you got to make sure the liver's healthy
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  Speaker 4: and the gallbladder is healthy, and the intestines aren't clogged
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  Speaker 4: up from into out or infected or taken over by
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  Speaker 4: bad guys. And so what should be real simple? You say, well,
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  Speaker 4: i'm bruising, I need to just take something. Sometimes all
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  Speaker 4: you need is natural vitamin C and start eating more
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  Speaker 4: natural organic fruits with vitamin C and that'll help. But
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  Speaker 4: most of the time I find that from taking the medications,
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  Speaker 4: the gut has been damaged, the normal flora has been damaged.
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  Speaker 4: And what people forget, and maybe many have never learned,
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  Speaker 4: is that you have one cell thick of your gut
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  Speaker 4: lining to the rest of the body one cell, so
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  Speaker 4: you can imagine the damage from a medication might be
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  Speaker 4: just enough to have damaged that one cell lining and
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  Speaker 4: now you've got things getting out into the other part
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  Speaker 4: of the body that shouldn't be going that way. That
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  Speaker 4: can cause a lot of problems. So first thing, right
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  Speaker 4: off the bat, let's do some diaplex, probably won every meal.
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  Speaker 4: Then I suggest imuplex to keep this simple, because it's
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  Speaker 4: got some glanulars like spleen and liver, and it has
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  Speaker 4: gotten natural vitamin C. It's got dimus for T cells
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  Speaker 4: for fighting infection. So now we've got diaplex and muplex
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  Speaker 4: a real good start. Then we need to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that you put some good fermented foods in your diet,
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  Speaker 4: and we need to make sure circulation's good. So I
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  Speaker 4: would suggest cardioplus and cataplex B or cataplex bekor which
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  Speaker 4: has got both B vitamins, and those four things alone
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  Speaker 4: would be a really great start, because the idea is
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  Speaker 4: not to spend a lot of money, not to have
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  Speaker 4: to take a lot of pills, but sometimes things keep
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  Speaker 4: popping up and we're going to have to do more
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  Speaker 4: until we get it under control. Now, if you looked
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  Speaker 4: in my medicine cabinet. You'd swear I was dying because
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  Speaker 4: I'm taking a thousand things. But it's because I know
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  Speaker 4: different things are for different issues. And I have a
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  Speaker 4: patient that had a ponting stroke, so we're working on that.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm coming at things from all angles. And it's
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  Speaker 4: really important though that you start somewhere. So if you're
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  Speaker 4: bruising easily, and say you bleed easily too. Now bleeding
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  Speaker 4: could be just a simple thing of not having natural
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  Speaker 4: vitamin K to provide blood clotting so we don't bleed
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  Speaker 4: to death. That's a good product for that is chlorophyll
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  Speaker 4: complex and that or you can get liquid vitamin D
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  Speaker 4: with the K two in it, and that's a good
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  Speaker 4: thing to have. So but you know, we try to
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  Speaker 4: keep it simple when you start, and then I tell
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  Speaker 4: the patients listen to your body, give it a couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks, ten days, a couple of weeks, call me
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  Speaker 4: if there's any questions. Don't stop anything without talking to me.
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  Speaker 4: Don't take anything extra because a lot of times people
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  Speaker 4: want a Google doctor it and take something that's just
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  Speaker 4: a waste of their money, and I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: waste their money. I just want them to get well,
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  Speaker 4: so bruising first thing is important to know the history
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  Speaker 4: of the patient. And most of the time when I've
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  Speaker 4: had a patient with bruising, they had done a lot
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  Speaker 4: of medications and also a lot of times they were
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  Speaker 4: Google doc during and taking a lot of over the
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  Speaker 4: counter stuff. That sounds wonderful, but it's not unless you
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  Speaker 4: know you would bite This week before the show, I
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  Speaker 4: looked at eleven or twelve advertisements on Facebook for vitamins, minerals,
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  Speaker 4: liquid gels, everything in the world, and they all claimed
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  Speaker 4: to be miraculous. One of them even said it was bioactive.
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  Speaker 4: And then I looked at the ingredients of every single one.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was twelve that I looked at, and
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  Speaker 4: every one of them had vitamin C as a scorbic acid,
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  Speaker 4: beta kerateene as vitamin A. It's not. They had mixed
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  Speaker 4: to cofferoles or alpha takofferol for vitamin E.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
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  Speaker 4: They had chromium piccolinate. It's not a good chromium for us.
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  Speaker 4: They had a weak form of calcium, not even as
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  Speaker 4: good as calcium carbonate, which is limestone. They had worse
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  Speaker 4: ones than that, but everyone that I checked out of
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  Speaker 4: the top ten nutrients that you would look for. They
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  Speaker 4: were bad, they were synthetic, they were fractionated, they were
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  Speaker 4: not good for you. And then they had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of other stuff listed where all the names sounded really great.
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  Speaker 4: But once you show me that you're putting plastic parts
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  Speaker 4: in there that are not serving any purpose for the body,
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  Speaker 4: I tend not to believe you on the names you
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  Speaker 4: type after that. So think about all that when if
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  Speaker 4: you're bruising, find a doctor you trust, call me, call
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  Speaker 4: the show, go to our website that Susie created and
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  Speaker 4: contact us. There's a function in there for that and
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  Speaker 4: we'll be glad to make some recommendations and help you.
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  Speaker 4: But right like I said, right now, diaplex very important,
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  Speaker 4: emuplex very important, cardioplus, and cataplect speaker. That would be
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  Speaker 4: the first four things I would go to to make
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  Speaker 4: sure we got it covered. And then yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things we can do depending on what your
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  Speaker 4: body says. And I always tell the patients you listen
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  Speaker 4: to your body. You tell me what it says. It'll
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  Speaker 4: make me look smart, but we will figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: Don't google doctor, it's a waste your time. And don't
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  Speaker 4: waste your money buying a bunch of stuff because most everything,
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  Speaker 4: like I saw the ten or twelve companies this week,
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  Speaker 4: are all selling something that's not good, and they're telling everybody,
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  Speaker 4: are you tired of vitamins that don't get absorbed? Are
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  Speaker 4: you tired of wasting your money? Try this? And every
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  Speaker 4: one of them makes you think, boy, that's the greatest
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  Speaker 4: vitamin in the world. And no, it's not all right,
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  Speaker 4: Susie anything.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think you're gonna have to add to
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  Speaker 6: don't do Google doctor. I think you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 6: add don't be a Facebook doctor. You know, there's so
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  Speaker 6: many groups out there for for everything. Sometimes I hitch
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  Speaker 6: my trailer to him just to read, you know, out
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  Speaker 6: of curiosity and see what's going on. And uh, I
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  Speaker 6: mean there's a couple, you know, I like to play
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  Speaker 6: around with, you know, making tinctures and saves and bombs
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  Speaker 6: and things like that. You know, nothing complicated. And so
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  Speaker 6: there's a group out there for tinctures, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: I've learned a little bit from it. But you know,
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  Speaker 6: someone put up you know, I got shingles, what should
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  Speaker 6: I do? And someone puts up Camphophonique or I don't
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  Speaker 6: know whatever, that that pink stuff, not campophonique, that that
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  Speaker 6: pink stuff whatever it's called, you know, the topical stuff.
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  Speaker 6: And it just blows me away. You know that they're
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  Speaker 6: not doing anything at all for inside, inside the body.
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  Speaker 6: All they want to do is the easy stuff. Just
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  Speaker 6: mirror some you know, pink liquid, you know, on their
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  Speaker 6: issue and be healed. It's absurd.
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  Speaker 4: You definitely nailed it.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: I had totally disregarded all that stuff on Facebook because
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  Speaker 4: there's so much of it. And you know what's funny.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody wants to be an expert so bad, and they'll
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  Speaker 4: come on there and they'll tell people what to do
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  Speaker 4: and how to do it. And I did this and
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  Speaker 4: it made me walk on water. And most most of
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  Speaker 4: the time it's the same lies that's being told by
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  Speaker 4: different people.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and you know, nowadays you have to be extremely careful,
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  Speaker 6: whether it is Google or Facebook because of AI. You know,
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  Speaker 6: that could be anyone out there telling you steps to
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  Speaker 6: take for whatever ails you and they may not even
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  Speaker 6: be real.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill, how about you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I said, just so, you raised a couple
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  Speaker 1: of interesting, interesting points, And I think people seem to
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  Speaker 1: have a need to want to trust somebody, but they
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  Speaker 1: don't always Yeah, do a little research to find out
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  Speaker 1: just who this somebody is. Man, somebody sounds like they're
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  Speaker 1: a medical expert or a doctor, they have just jump
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  Speaker 1: right all over it because well they're a doctor. You
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  Speaker 1: know that. They know Whether they're a doctor or not,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's a culture is just has been
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  Speaker 1: twisted around in the last several decades to look for
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  Speaker 1: quick fixes. And with so many things physically they're the
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  Speaker 1: fixes are not quick. If you want them to really
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  Speaker 1: be fixed, it's going to take time, and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to take some cautious effort and some research and again
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  Speaker 1: finding somebody to work with who knows what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Have to do. How do you how do you verify
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  Speaker 1: somebody's qualification for what they're claiming. It's it's very difficult.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think too many people want to be
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  Speaker 4: a doctor, but not enough to see thousands of patients
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  Speaker 4: and put in the long hours and to go to
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  Speaker 4: medical school and have to go through all that. Because well,
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, when I chose to go down
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  Speaker 4: that road, I did pre med at night and it
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  Speaker 4: took me a year longer than if you went pre
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  Speaker 4: med on your own without having to work. And then
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  Speaker 4: when I hit medical school, there was many a times
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  Speaker 4: that I thought, oh my god, what did I get into?
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  Speaker 4: But today everybody thinks they can google it, know everything,
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  Speaker 4: give bad advice, sell bad vitamins. And I'm amazed. Like
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  Speaker 4: I said, right now, there's at least twelve that I
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  Speaker 4: checked this week so I could mention it during the show,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: and not one of them. Disappointed me in the fact
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: that I expected to see the synthetic fraction vitamins and
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: yet they tell everybody everything. There was one today popped
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: up right before the show, a kids vitamin and it
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: was vitamins. It was kids see something, So I thought,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: this is interesting. Let's see if they put natural vitamin
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: C for the kids. Vitamin C as oscarbiek as it
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: not good. I tell everybody, when you're looking at your vitamins,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: you don't have to know anything. You don't have to
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: ask anybody anything. If it says vitamin whatever, as it's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: not real, it's not good for you, it's non natural,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: and you don't want to waste your money. But people
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: are taking so much of that stuff. And I'll bet
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: you on from what I saw on Facebook they're making
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: a fortune and they've got I don't know if it's
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: AI or real, but they got all these people saying,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: how wonderful this is my vitamin from now on. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I know what's going on. Even in the beginning. When
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you take a bad vitamin, he'll get a natural euphoria
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: for a little while while it robs your body of
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the nutrients that you have the complete nomadic weal process
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to get rid of the stuff you're taking, and then
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: pretty soon you're sicker than you were to start. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: very sad. I have to tell this story. I had
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: a gentleman and his daughter knocking my door the other night,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: and they were carrying a bag of baked goods, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I thought, man, that's great. I'm impressed they're out there
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: walking door to door trying to make some money. He's
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: got his daughter with him, teaching her some, you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: decent stuff. And so I said, I opened the door.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I said hello, and he said, we have a little
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: bakery we're opening up. And I said, I'll buy from
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: you as long as you could tell me there's no
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: canola oil. Well guess what everything was canola oil? And
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: he the poor guy, I'm guessing he was about forty
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: years old. His daughter looked like she was about eight,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: but he said he had a twenty year old also.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: But anyway, he did every excuse in the book, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: he did so good, and he had his hat turned backwards,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: and you know how much I love that. So I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: reminded him, first off, canola oil is a poison. He
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: didn't know that. And he said, well, we're trying to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: use it, and later we're going to use something. I said, no, no, no, no,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: you don't understand. I'm not telling you to make you
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: feel bad. I want to help you. I'd like to
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: see you do well. And I love those kind of
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: baked goods, but they got to be with good ingredients.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: And you're going around trying to poison people and you
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: don't even know it. And I told the daughter, I said,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: when you get home, throw all that canola oil away
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: so we'll see. And I told him that you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: you're wearing your hat turned around backwards, which serves no
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: purpose in Houston with the sun protecting your face and eyes.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: And I said, and the kids laugh when they see
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: grown men with a family with the hat turned backwards,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: because you're not a rap star. And that's who they
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: listen to. So I said, you know the hat turned
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: backwards and canola oil.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Well, today, he'll never knock on your door again.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I hope he does. I told him, if you
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: get rid of the canola oil, I will be a customer,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: but it needs to be good ingredients.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but see, the problem is not nine people will
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: go oh cool, Yeah, we'll start shopping there and you won't.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I hope that he listened because I told him.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I said, I don't want to make you feel bad.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I want to help you, and I'm not asking for
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: anything other than that you make a good product and
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I'll buy it from you. I said, here, you're out
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: making all these excuses. I said. The reason people use
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: canola oil one maybe they don't know, and two it's
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: very cheap. But I said, unfortunately, it tastes bad. So
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: if you're making bakery goods and you want people to
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: buy on more than once, don't put poison in there.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: So he'd but he spent a lot of time trying
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: to make excuses for using canola oil, and I could
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: it seemed like a really nice guy too. I felt
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: really bad, but I could not let him walk away.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Thinking canola oil was going to be a good thing,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: and I didn't. I won't even think about that before
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: he went to some house and sold some So anyway,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: it was kind of funny anything on that before we
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: go to break Susie.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Well'll not exactly on that. But you know, back to
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: this huge market of artificial vitamins, and I think it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: like peeling onion. There's many, many layers, you know. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: saw last week that the medical community's approval rating was
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: very low, like in the twenty five to thirty percent.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: And I think that there is an awakening right now
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: going on for like natural remedies. I mean, if you
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: look on Facebook and you can just do like a
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: cursor research for you know, natural remedies. Making tinctures Mullin
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: right now is a big deal. Whild let us sleep
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: is a big deal. But even though people have good intentions,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: they don't know really how to use these things. And
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: it's sometimes it's not just making a tincture out of mullan.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: If you think about doctor Weed's formula for bronchial health,
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: you know, it's got quite a few different herbs in there,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: and so all of a sudden, it's like it's Mullen
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: and it's iver Makedon. You know, it just blows me away.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: So I give people a little tiny speck of credit
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: for trying to find something else, but they haven't quite
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: found the right road to travel down. So when you
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: combine that with the approval rating of the you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: establishment medical, I see a phenomenon happening, and I think
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: it's right for teaching people.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Well, we've been doing that forever, and the problem is
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: now with Google doctoring, many people think something like molin
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: is what they need. And one of the things you
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: find out one that's far from what you're going to need,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: even if you knew how to do the herbal stuff.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: And two it's usually a very very poor quality that
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: people are selling out there.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not just that people will say things like
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: is this let us leave? I found it on the
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: side of the highway and I'm just creams. You know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: it's palm to face because number one, they don't know
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: how to identify it. That's dangerous. And then on the
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: side of the highway where they spray. You know, even
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: if you're in an urban area and you find it
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: way back in your backyard, they spray for mosquitoes. You know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: they spray insecticide up and down alleyways, in streets and highways,
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: and I mean I would I'd have to go off
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: in the middle of the woods somewhere if I really
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: and truly had to forge for you know whatever herb.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And unfortunately people don't understand there's a very complimated,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: complicated process to make these things. It is not just
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: go see them on the side of the world and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: dump them in your pot and you're going to have something.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: You're going to have nothing. So very very sad. A
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: lot of people are being lied to, and they're gullible
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: when they're desperate, and they'll spend all their money, bill
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: anything before we go to break.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: No, it'll wait.
• 33:05
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  Speaker 6: I need riding.
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  Speaker 2: I'm living good.
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• 36:10
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• 36:17
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• 36:20
  Speaker 4: That's ways he's got you.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: I've got Mexico.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But I mean ride a living good.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I'm doing have a thing said out Look. All right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: we are back and he's probably drinking some of that
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: tequila that Steve talked about, but he said rum and Cox.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you'd be drinking tequila down
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: there anyway. This is doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. We
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: are back. We've got Susie Bill, myself and producer Steve
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: behind the curtain. Bill, well, you had something you were
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: going to talk about in reference to what we were
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: talking about right before break take it away.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was we're talking about gathering herbs and stuff,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and I think that's changed. And when we're back in
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the well, probably up until the nineteen late seven days
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and eighties, people would see chickery growing along the highways,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and it's the same chickery they put in coffee. The
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: beautiful flowers. And if if you did enough research and
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: got good text, good books to read, and really understood
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: what you're doing, you could you could go out and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: get get the stuff that you needed or wanted. It's
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: so but that was the problem. Most people didn't. It's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: like going out and gathering mushrooms. It's one of the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: things I learned earlier. We always used to go out
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: in the early spring looking from moral mushrooms, which is
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a big deal up in the Midwest, and we had
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: many of them, and we had places that we used
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to go where we could always find them. But there
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: are a couple of lookalikes that are not particularly good
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: for you. And so again, you know, you really have
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to understand what what you're looking at and what you're
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: looking for. Not all of this stuff grows everywhere, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a very risky business. Trying to find
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: good herbs in a store or trying to buy them
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: is very it's a tough thing to do. We don't know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: We don't know where they come from. We've talked about
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: being able to trust organic, organically labeled things. Yeah, unless
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I grow these, unless I grow my own herbs, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: don't buy them in a store.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, and that's a good thing unless you know
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: who you're buying with. Like, we have a lot of
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: herbal stuff from Standard Process in medi Herb, and I've
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: been to the farm, I've seen the process. I know
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: what they're doing, and like Susie mentioned before, they were
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: very worried about anybody around them using chemicals and their
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: properties that it might get to Standard Process and medi
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Herb stuff. So they really really monitor that with the state.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: And people don't understand. You can't get a lot of
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: the nutrients unless you're trained in this field, and you
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: need the alcohol. They use organic natural fermented alcohol and
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: it makes the tinctures. And without that you can't extract
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: the groups of plant constituents like resins and essential oils
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and alkali and all that stuff that other companies might
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: use solvents, and that's bad for you and not doing
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: you no good. That's kind of how they do decaffeinated coffee.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: They use trichlori ethylane and run the beans through there,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: and that takes away the caffeine that leaves you with
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: the chemical very bad. So there's a lot of things
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: to learn. And in the old days we didn't have
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: to worry about them spraying round up and dusting for
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: mosquitoes with airplanes over our crops, so it was a
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: little safer. But it's a real art. I mean, to
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: be an herbalist and only do herbs. There's a lot
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: to that, and you're not going to get it by
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: pulling up on the side of the road today and
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: pulling it out. You'll get maybe some benefit, but nothing
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: like an herbalist who knows how to extract the nutrients
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: the right way, and they've studied that for thousands of
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: years probably in this world. Something I wanted to bring up.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Standard process just recently went to a new line of
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: cat and dog and I guess horses and everybody else supplements,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and they for the cats and the dogs, they call
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: it spirited Paul P. A. W. And I'm looking here.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: They've got dental, they've got joint and mobility in one bottle.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: They've got health and vitality in another bottle. They've got
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: probiotic and gut health in another bottle, and they've got
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: calm in another bottle. If you've got a chihuahuah or
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Jack Russell terrier, calm might be a good thing because
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: those little animals just yep, yep, yep, yep. All right,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: So we covered the thing about bruising, and like I said,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: it can be a lot of things, and it can
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: be real simple in some cases. But a good start Emuplex, Diaplex, Cardioplus, Cataplex,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: pa core four good products to start inexpensive, and I'll
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: be glad to tell people how to take them if
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: they want to want to get those, and we'll work
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: with you. Sometimes people will tell me, well, I read
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: the bottle. I didn't need to ask you. I said,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: the bottle says take such and such generic to make
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: the government happy. And then right below that it says,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: or as your doctor or healthcare professional tells you. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I said, I am that doctor or healthcare professional. You
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: don't want to listen to the box because that's generic.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not going to hurt you, but it
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: may not solve your problem. Yeah, I'm looking at it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Three tablets per day are as directed. Well, I am
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: the as directed and I want to help you, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: my goal is that you don't have to take a
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: lot of pills. And whenever we can, we've put some
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: on the shelf and save them for when we need them.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: And then if we're fighting fires, what we deal with,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: what we have to do. So anyway, now they got
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: standard process is spirited Paul a whole new line that's
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: kind of cool. And another thing I wanted to bring up,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: since we were talking about herbal stuff and things, you
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: can find some products have to be lightly cooked, just
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: like you have to use alcohol and some herbal things
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: to pull the nutrients out, and God only knows how
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: they learn done. But like spinach, when cooked, much more
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: iron and calcium is available from the spinach. Oxalate acid
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: blocks these nutrients from being absorbed, but it breaks down
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: under cooking, so then they're absorbed. So if you're if
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: you're a health nut and you think we're all spinach
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: is the way to go, you're wrong. Mushrooms. Bill brought
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: these up many nutrients and different mushrooms, potassium, niasin, zinc, magnesium,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: all kinds of good stuff, and their potency is increased
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: when they're cooked, not barbecued. To death, but you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: sautate kind of thing. Same with carrots. Carrots have powerful
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: antioxidant stuff and it jumps up way up when you
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: lightly cook them, if they're boiled or steamed until tender.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Asparagus same thing, multiple multiple studies how good nutritional from
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: cooking asparagus versus to try to eat it raw tomatoes.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I like raw tomatoes, but cooking them boosts the availability
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: of lycopene, which is very good for men's prostate, and
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: also other herbs that are in there for the chronic
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: diseases and heart disease. And then broccoli and cauliflower uncooked,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: there's a little bit of stuff, but it can cause
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: a lot of digestive problems when you likely cook them.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: These cruciferous vegetables as we call them, makes it much
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: more easy on your stomach, activates the proper enzymes, and
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: we enhance the disease busting compounds in there. So this
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: is why you don't want to go today unless you're
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: trained and you really know what you're talking about and
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: try to do your own stuff, because there's a lot
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: of things the average person isn't going to know one
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: hundred years ago, two hundred years ago, they knew a
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: lot of different stuff. The soil was healthy, nobody was
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: spraying it. It was a different world. I think, probably
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: a lot more healthy world. But nobody talks about that today.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: They want to spray everything with chemicals. So is he
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: anything on all that?
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I like my chryciferous vegetables in a capsule. And
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: what in a capsule?
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh?
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: I like broccoli. I like Brussels sprounce if you just
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: absolutely overwhelmed them with bacon and olive oil and garlic
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: and butter. But it's not my go to.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: It was four year maybe five years ago we were
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: grilling steaks out and uh, my daughter wanted asparagus. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: so it's kind of like, if mommy makes this asparagus, ooh,
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: you don't like it, but if your daughter makes it, oh,
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: this is great. Okay. So I held that against my
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: husband to all the way to today and beyond because
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: one of my favorite meals is some lightly sauteed asparagus
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: with a good steak. And you know that man has
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: not touched asparagus all of his life until the last
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: four or five years. Blows me away.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: How funny bill anything.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about about Brussels sprouts. My dad always
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: we had him and and you know, they became a
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: boiled and I always liked him. I just like the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: taste of My dad always called him brothels sprouse because
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: they're just little bastard cabbages.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: That's funny. Yeah, I'm like Susie. I like them sauteed garlic, onion, bacon. Oh,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: that's heaven, all right. Well, it's that time of night
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: when everybody's dying for a good joke, and I know
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you guys come here for the jokes and that wonderful music.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: A cop pulls over this young girl and when he
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: walks up to the car, she's not happy, and she says,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: do you know who my father is? And he said, no, ma'am,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: your mother didn't tell you. I thought that was pretty good,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: pretty good, all right. So a woman doesn't come home
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: home one night, and when she comes home the next day,
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: she tells her husband. And this joke's about loyalty, true loyalty. Anyway,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: she tells her husband that I spent the night with
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: one of my friends. Well, the husband knows all of
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: her friends, so he calls ten friends that are in
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: her close circle, and every one of them says, now,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: we don't know what you're talking about. She wasn't here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: So then one night, the husband comes home the next day,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: doesn't make it home that night, and the wife says, well,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: where were you? And he said, I spent the night
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: with one of my friends. So she calls around eight
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: friends said, yeah, he spent the night here, and two
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: of them said he's still here. That's loyalty. That's loyalty.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: All right, there we got one. A wife texts her
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: husband and says, you know, he's already at work, and
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: she said, on your way home tonight, would you mind
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: stopping by the bakery and picking up some bread? And oh,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: by the way, your girlfriend, Elizabeth, says I And he said,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: text back, who's Elizabeth? Oh nobody? She said, I just
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: put that in there to make sure you read my text.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: He said, who that was closed? He said, I'm with
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Elizabeth right now, and I thought maybe you saw us.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: She said, where are you? He said, I'm at the bakery.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: She said, you stay right there. I'll be there in
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: just a minute. So she gets in the car and
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: she hurries over to the bakery because it wasn't very
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: far away, and she gets there, she don't see him anywhere,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: so she texted him again. She said, where are you at?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: He said, I told you I'm at work. I've been
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: at work all morning. Uh he said, but well, you
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: know you you were doing a little tests. I had
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: to do one back and he said, where are you at?
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: She said, I'm at the bakery. He said, well, hey,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: as long as you're there once you bring home a
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: loaf of bread. I thought that was great. I thought
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: that was great. All right, what else do I got here?
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: What do you call a milkman wearing pantyhose? A dairy queen?
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: That test is wrong? I uh, you know, I once
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: uh liked Joe name of the football player, but he's
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: done every stupid commercial and you think he was on
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: food stamps and having to make a living, and you know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: he won the Super Bowl and he's probably been filthy
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: rich ever since, but he's always doing an ad. My
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: favorite funny that I was the wife thinking she got
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: him by texting your girlfriend's ear, and then he played
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: her and she ended up having to bring the bread home.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: I thought that was great, and he joked, you guys,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: he got any now.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: I skipped it this week because I want to be inconsistent.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Bill, I got a question for the head doctor and you,
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: this has come up in my life. Yeah, this has
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: come up in my life many, many times, and I
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: have always formed my own opinion. But I don't under
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: understand why it happens. I have noticed that when some
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: people drink, they're happy and they're fun to be around.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Other people are just quiet and recluse, and some people
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: are just mean and angry. But one thing that I
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: noticed in common of all of them is that when
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: they're drunk are stoned as the case, maybe they will
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: say things, and sometimes they're very revealing and wow, like
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that happened, or you did that. And
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: then when you talk to them and they're sober, not
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: only do they deny that it ever happened, but they
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: deny that they ever said it. And I said, well,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: of course you would deny that you were drunk. You
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: probably forgot or maybe it's something you don't want to remember.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: But what I don't understand, what is the truth. Do
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: you think I'm knowing your experience that you have an
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: answer for that is the truth? When they're drunk and
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: sown and they let the truth come out or is
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: the truth when they're sober.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I figured.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Soon as he stopped that don't encourage you.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem with those kinds of mood altering substances,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: whether it's alcohol or or drugs, is it lowers the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: hibitions there. You know, we lose our inhibitions about talking
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: about things. A lot of stuff that people talk about
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: when they're under the influence are things that they have
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: kept secret for years, decades whatever. A lot of times
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: they are fantasies that people will tell talk about when
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: they're all the experiences they've had doing this and the
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: other thing and there. It's all kind of made up,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: but it's it It taps into a part of our
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: uh of our psyche that it's just a different reality.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: And I've learned of after many years of watching this stuff,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that when somebody has had a little too much to
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: drink or had a little too much to smoke, it
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: can be interesting. But how seriously do you take that?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: And it depends on the person, it depends on the situation,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: but usually not very much. But it's it's it's just
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: destroys or normal normal. I almost sound like I was
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: in the Midwest. I said normal. It destroys our normal
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: sense of of balance and of of what is appropriate
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: and what is what is our real I mean, we
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: all have multiple realities. We've talked a little bit about this,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and from time to time and when when we've had
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: too much to drink or whatever, the barriers, the barriers
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: go away, and it's just not Oh yes, A friend
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: of mine in Minnesota usually say let's go out and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: get drunk so we can be important. It's just, you know,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't resist, it doesn't work. That's a good question.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, why do why do people do that?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: A lot of times people drink too much or smoke
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: too much because it allows them for a moment to
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: find a sense of a freedom, a sense of being
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: a different part of their personality. But it's that their
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: real personality. I mean, what's what's truth? What's truth? Who
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: are we? Who the hell knows? Well?
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: The reason I brought it up, It's happened to me
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: many times in my life because when I've had a
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: few drinks one, I don't like to get drunk, so
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: I tend not to. But I'm still me. I don't
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: you know change much from drinking or not drinking. But
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: I've noticed a lot of people that I've been around,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: and I've been told some stories that blew my mind
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: and the detail was so perfect that I was sure
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: it was true. And then a few times over the
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: years in my life, I would bring something up and say,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: you know, you told me this the other night when
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: you were drinking, and they said, I don't remember that.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: I know I didn't do that. I said, I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: it did.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's kind of a violent And you
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: know you said that when when you had a few
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: drinks that didn't change you very much. But what would
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: somebody that you were talking to say about that, Well.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: They usually everybody usually tends to drink more than me,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: so they probably wouldn't remember. When I was in the Navy. Yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: when I was in the Navy, you make it a
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: point to go to the bars. We would we'd go eat,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: but everybody we'd go hang out at different bars. And
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: in Italy, I remember getting this three liter mug of
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: beer boy that was big, and I don't think any
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: of us finished it. And then luckily for us, the
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: trolley car was right there. You didn't have to walk
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: and take you back to the pier where the liberty
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: boats could pick you up. But but I noticed with
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: me that at a certain point whatever I was drinking
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: didn't taste good no more, so I would stop. But
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of my friends would drink from the time
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: we left the boat to time to get back for
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: quarters in the morning, and that there were different people
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: when they got that drunk, and some of them were
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: so used to doing it that after a while, as
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: long as they didn't have to pass the driving test,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of people wouldn't have known they were drunk.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: But some of the stories I've been told by people
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: just blew my mind. And then they'll tell you I
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: didn't say that, I never did that. I said, you
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: couldn't have described it so perfectly to me had you
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: not done it. That's not possible. I said, there's no
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: doubt in my mind that after you had been drinking,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: you told me the truth about that particular story. And
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: I'd find that what happened a lot of times, and
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of people either have selective memory. When the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: sober they truly don't remember, are they're embarrassed to remember,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: and they don't want it brought back up so I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: don't know. That's why I wanted to throw it out
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: to you and see what your take was. I'm sure
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: you've had to deal with that before.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I'm time, oh and it's break time.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: But I wanted to say one thing real quick. People
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: wonder how the drugs mess them up. And there are
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: lots of drugs that will steal nutrients from the body
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: when you take them. A lot of the heart medicines
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: and the cholesterol medicines, they will steal coenzyme Q ten
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: and selenium, vitamin A, P twelve, vitamin D, magnesium so
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: you could see, and vitamin K one of them for clotting,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: and they'll take away like calcium. Calcium is very important
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: for get out to the tissue, and they'll take away
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: vitamin C and folic acid and iron. So what happens
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: when you take these drugs, Not only is there the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: effect of the drug that the pharmaceutical guys wanted, but
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: it steals from your body, which is how we get
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: to that state where now I'm not taking them anymore,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: but I still bruise easy. And I've seen it with
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: a lot of people. My mom was one of them.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: She would look at something and be bruised, and in
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: those days she was taking a lot of medications and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: we've worked to get her off of it, but.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Not all of them.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: I can't win the battle, and I don't live there anymore.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: So that for a lot of you, if you're wondering
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: how did my medications do that? They steal a lot
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: of the nutrients from your body when you take the meds,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: and that's what happens with women on the pill. It
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: steals a lot from them, and it messes up their
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: their hormones and they're you know, they can really become
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: a basket case. All right, anything before we go to
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  Speaker 4: her that, Bill, anything before we go to break No,
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  Speaker 4: All right, we are back. Welcome back to Doctor groupa's
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  Speaker 4: Natural Health hours. It is time for Bill's weekly topic.
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  Speaker 4: So Bill, take it away.
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  Speaker 1: Carry it off.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this kind of ties into something you were talking
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: about a little bit ago, but before the break. But
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: for many years, I've been kind of interested or amused,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: or sometimes concerned about how things that we haven't thought
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: about for maybe decades, just all of a sudden pop
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: back into our heads. Occasionally we'll remember a melody of two,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: a song we haven't heard for twent thirty years, and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're rehearing the whole thing again,
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  Speaker 1: And where does where does that come from? One of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: the things that came into my head this weekend was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: something that we talked about when I was in school,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: and it was one of those kinds of topics that
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: some university faculty just get really excited about. It's almost
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: like a fad that they talk about and they talk
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: about and they talk about it, and it's very clear
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: that they really don't know what it is. I don't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: have any concept about what the feel is. But this
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: particular one that I was thinking about was a called thinking,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: and I've talked about just before on the show and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: quite a while since I've done that. But the whole
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: idea of critical thinking was it was very at that point.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody was very critically and use this as as a
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: tool for just almost everything, but nobody seemed to be
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: able to find it. And it's, uh, one of the
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: things that we've talked about, and you mentioned again that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: tonight about listening to your body and listening to your
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: listening to what your body's telling you. Critical thinking to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: me means removing the emotionality from the process. Most of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: most people that I know, and I certainly do this
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a lot too, is we tend to confuse feeling about
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: things the way we feel about something. We can to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: confuse that with thinking. The two distinct processes. And if
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: we think about critic writes a play or a piece
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  Speaker 1: of music, or a book critic or a literary critic
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  Speaker 1: or an art critic, there's somebody who looks at a
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  Speaker 1: particular I'd never thought or a piece of piece of
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  Speaker 1: work very objectively, very disinterestedly, and hopefully without much emotion
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  Speaker 1: or opinion, but just stating kind of where things are
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  Speaker 1: and when. When thinking about this a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: over over the last few days, it's how often do
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  Speaker 1: we when we have something that we need to think
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  Speaker 1: about our feelings from that process, because, as I said,
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  Speaker 1: those are two distinct aspects of that endeavor, and having
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  Speaker 1: to think critically about our health or think critically how
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  Speaker 1: we're feeling physically. Feel bad. Now that doesn't really say anything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what what what? What does that mean? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know I feel bad, I don't feel good. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're bad or what you're good is.
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  Speaker 1: And this is this kind of I just said to
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  Speaker 1: what you were talking about with folks who can't remember
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  Speaker 1: stuff that that they've just said or thought about because
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: of mood overing substances. But how do we how do
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  Speaker 1: we just really define a problem or something that's confronting
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: us or concerning us objectively to be able to form
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: some kind of a as we used to say, a
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  Speaker 1: treatment plan to find a way to deal with the issue.
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  Speaker 1: I think again, as as the first part of the
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  Speaker 1: process of really defining a problem, understanding why I feel bad,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: understanding why I'm feeling depressed, understanding why my back hurts?
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  Speaker 1: What have I done? What have I how? How did
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I get to this point? We have to be able
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  Speaker 1: to objectify that part of the exam and then balance
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: it with with the emotional part. I think that that
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  Speaker 1: as we work through particular almost every day, it is
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  Speaker 1: a two part process, and we need to understand that
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  Speaker 1: we can't just do one and figure that it covers
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  Speaker 1: the whole ball game. It doesn't. We've got to readly
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: do both. And the more serious issue, the more important
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: is to have that that separation and uh, the completion
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: of the ballots about engaging not only what do I
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  Speaker 1: think about something? But how do I? How does that?
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  Speaker 1: How do I feel about that? You think about ethical
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  Speaker 1: questions that you can frequently, uh, it come up with
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  Speaker 1: both sides of that and the ones that you know
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  Speaker 1: I remember as a kid was well, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: a guy steals, steals things to be able to support
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  Speaker 1: his family. The ethical issue is did he break the law? Yeah,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: he's stole stuff. The feeling part of that emotional part
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  Speaker 1: of it is yeah, but he had to feed his family.
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  Speaker 1: His family was starving. So where do you you where
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  Speaker 1: do you draw that line, and how do you begin
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: to combine that a hard intellectual fact that he'd broken
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the law and broken a cultural custom. How do you
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  Speaker 1: balance that with the fact that he had to feed
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  Speaker 1: his family, So keeping those processes separate, but understanding that
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: they have to ultimately balance each other off so that
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  Speaker 1: we can find some way through that. The other thing
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: that just led into was what I've talked about a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: couple of times on the show, but again it kind
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  Speaker 1: of came up this week was what I call critical listening.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have many people they were a good listener,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: but I met anybody who are How do we listen? Certainly,
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  Speaker 1: and my affection as an issian, being able to critically
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  Speaker 1: listen to what a person is talking about requires a
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  Speaker 1: lot of practice. It's not something that is that critical thing.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: It's not something that I think comes easily to most folks.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I think we have to we have to train ourselves
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  Speaker 1: to do this. And where most people are not good
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: listeners is they keep interrupting. You know, when I was
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: in school, they never they never brought this up. But
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: if you know you've got a patient coming in and
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: it's talking about something that's that's causing them difficulty. You know,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: our minds as explinicians are kind of whirling around processing
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: what they're telling us with what we understand clinically, and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: what are we going to do about it? And really
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: the only thing that we really need to do is
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: just listen very focusedly. And this again comes back to
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the critical thinking and the critical listening. If we're thinking critically,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: we have to eliminate all kinds of intellectual distractions. What
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: is the problem clearly, stimply and cleanly. If we're listening,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: we have to not hear the doors slamming down the hall,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: We have to not hear things outside. We have to
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: listen only to what that person is saying. And to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: be able to screen out of an extraneous noise in
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: a conversation is it's not easy. We have to have
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: to learn how to do it. But to listen to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: a patient talking about things that have bothered them, perhaps
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: for many, many years, part of the process is letting
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: them talk about it. Part of the process is simply
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: listening to what they're saying, while at the same time,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: in our inner mind we are we're going different places
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: with it. We're thinking about why and how and how
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: how has this distorted your life, and how have you
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: been able to cope with this? And why have you
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: decided at this point of your life that this is
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: something that you need to talk about. What brought that on?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: It's again coming back to listening to what our body,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: or listen to what our mind is telling us. If
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  Speaker 1: we have what we used to call behavioral distortions, if
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: we're aware that we're behaving differently than we usually do,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: if we're irritable. Talked about this a little bit last week.
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  Speaker 1: For if we're irritable, or if we're jumpy, or if
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  Speaker 1: we're depressed. It's one thing to feel irritable or jumping
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: to depressed, but critically thinking about that, we're looking for causality.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: We're looking for what what brought on that irritability, or
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: what brought on that jumpiness, what brought on that depression
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: or whatever happens to be Where did that come from?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: It's all part of the makeup of each one of us.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Every every person has within the capability to be anxious
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: or to be depressed, or to be irritable or be
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: jump here, to be angry. But where are the triggers
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: and what are the what are the limits that we
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: put on on that behavior, and when that behavior becomes distorted,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: what caused that. Now, if somebody who has chronic pain
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be intense pain, it can be fairly
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: mild pain. But if it's chronic, it goes on for weeks, days, weeks,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to distort their behavior. To be aware of
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: that behavioral distortion is the beginning, and it's a critical thinking.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: The critical listening part of that. Listening to yourself, listening
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: to what's going on in your mind, feeling what's going
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: on with you physically, is part of the beginning of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: healing that I think, you know, working with a lot
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: of not a lot, but with a number of elderly people,
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  Speaker 1: and by as I become older, I noticed that my
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: definition of elderly keeps being pushed farther and farther back.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: So many aspects of their lives drop up. They just
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: kind of come into their mind all of a sudden.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: They haven't thought about the horrible things they said to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: their dad, or the horrible things they said to their mother,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: or somebody's feelings that they hurt, or you know, you
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: talked about bruising a little while ago. Mean, a lot
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: of people get emotionally bruised just as easily as physically bruised,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: and the ability to confront that and talk about it
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and recognize that not only have we been bruised, but
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: we've probably bruised other people as well. What drove that
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: was that situational was there a long term pattern here?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: Was that caused by the fact that my neck hurt
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: for years and I couldn't never do anything about it.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: We have to be able to critically look at ourselves
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: in a way that allows us the option to create options.
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  Speaker 1: If we just kind of get lost in the emotionality
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: of feeling bad or feeling down, or feeling if we
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  Speaker 1: if we don't stop and really begin to take that
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  Speaker 1: apart intellectually, we just get lost in that emotionality of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of a dead end. We stay there for
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: a while, and it is until either we get tired
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: of feeling bad that we begin to do something about it,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: or it just sort of occurs on us on that
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: says on its own, and we understand that we can
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: take a we haven't they have a thereity to take
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: to make a choice here. We can continue to say
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: the way we are, or we can change and if
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: we're going to going to change, what do we need
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: to do and how do we begin to do that?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And is there a reasonable manageable way to really undertake
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: behavioral change? How do we how do we begin to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: recognize that we can't we can't fix this, We're not stuck.
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  Speaker 1: It's a choice if we've you know, as I said
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: last week, once once we begin to take a problem apart,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: we've taken out of the emotional aspect and like the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: emotional part of it, and we've created a series of choices.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: And one choice is to go back to just feeling bad,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: to do doing the things we've always done, or the
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: choices to begin to consciously make substance of change and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: understand that that's a long process. The critical thinking and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: critical listening is really screening, filtering out, screening out the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: distractions to the core of the issue, whether it's a
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: thought process or a listening process. And you know, as
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  Speaker 1: I found as a therapist, you know, if you're listening
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: listening to somebody, I mean really listening to what they're saying,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: and there's a couple of levels there where they're they're
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: talking about about a particular problem, but they're also describing
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: an underlaying a series of events and learning to listen
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: to all of that. It's hard work, it's exhausting. A
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: lot of therapists who are you know, don't don't work
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: much more than six hours a day because it's physically
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: just too draining to deal with a kind of trauma
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: all the time. Okay, how do we deal with that
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: as a therapist? How do we begin to separate our
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: own emotionality from the physicality of it or the intellectuality
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: of it. So learning how to really objectively approach almost
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: everything that we talk about that has to deal with decisions,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: or has to deal with with feelings or with things
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: that we need to do. It takes time, it takes practice,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: and it's not easy, but I think we can all
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: do it within the capabilities that each one of us has.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: And I think that's our job. I think that's our responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: As always deep and interesting stuff you're all on the
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  Speaker 1: Pretty cool?
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  Speaker 6: The you know the part about you know, paying chronic pain,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: that's you know, that's interesting. Interesting. You know, I think
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  Speaker 6: that you know, in my case, I recognize it, and
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  Speaker 6: I think when you when you do recognize it, that
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  Speaker 6: you can make adjustments. Yeah, there's times when when I
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  Speaker 6: can be grumpy and I'm like, Okay, it's been it's
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  Speaker 6: been a tough you know, a couple of pain days.
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  Speaker 6: I think the trouble is when you don't recognize what's
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  Speaker 6: causing your bad behavior. And in some days, frankly, Bill,
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  Speaker 6: I don't care. But that's very very very rare.
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  Speaker 1: Now, but it happens. It happens, and that's part of
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  Speaker 1: the process.
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  Speaker 4: I think we just need to send Huddle another sympathy card.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be all right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's funny. He went to the grocery store,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: and so I made him on a little short list
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: because I told him last night, I said, either I
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  Speaker 6: get some watermelon or I'm gonna have to check into rehab.
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  Speaker 6: So he decided that going to the store and getting
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: watermelon was cheaper, which means he chose to keep me
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: pacify me with watermelon instead of sending me off to rehab.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know the old saying, it's cheaper to keep
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  Speaker 4: her all right, all right, Well, we're almost at break time.
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  Speaker 4: That was pretty interesting stuff, Bill and Bill accused me,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen, uh, recently of sometimes saying words that
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  Speaker 4: nobody knows what I said? How did you put a
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  Speaker 4: bill that you're used to saying them types of things,
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  Speaker 4: but the rest of us are.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Well, yeah, I mean you're talking about some of
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  Speaker 1: the products from Standard Process and you know you've been
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  Speaker 1: dealing with this for a couple of decades, right, and
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  Speaker 1: you understand them. But for those of us who are
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  Speaker 1: perhaps trying to write it down or remember it or
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  Speaker 1: at least understand, sometimes that's not it's not always very easy.
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  Speaker 1: So so slowly, hell down, will you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: You think I was speaking in another language?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm sure sometimes yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well That's that's what's good about you guys, is you've
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  Speaker 4: always managed to tell me when I said something that
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  Speaker 4: makes no sense or nobody understood what I was talking about,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: that I can rethink it, because You're right. Sometimes it
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: just pops in my head from things that I've experienced
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: and uh, I'm not thinking on the what's on the
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: receiving end? Did they get it that way? So I
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  Speaker 4: always appreciate that kind of stuff. You and Susie have
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  Speaker 4: been great. Sometimes been pained both of you, but I
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  Speaker 4: better because if I say something and it went right
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  Speaker 4: by everybody, then I defeated the purpose and I need
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: to make sure. So I really appreciate that you told
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  Speaker 4: me that this week, and Susie's done it on several
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: things too, like Okay, no, I'll say that again. All right, Susie,
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  Speaker 4: you got a recipe or two up your sleeve.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got a couple of them.
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• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: bat page, go down that three quarters of the way
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  Speaker 6: and you'll see a link to our website and we
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: can be reached at a three zero three seven seven
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  Speaker 6: two one three one.
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  Speaker 4: And you can also see a picture of the Lovely
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: and Talented Pistol back in Harper's Valley Pta Girl and
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: our producer Steve standing out there in the road next
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: to a Fredericksburg sign. He's on the website down there too,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: so you can check them both out. Only Bill won't
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: give a picture because he's afraid they'll find him. But
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: other than that, we're okay, So Sissy take it away.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: Okay. So I think I've had a few recipes that
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: had something to do with the ranch dressing mix, and
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 6: so I just went and found the ingredients. You know,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know every grocery store in the world, so
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: I just went to Amazon and it's this is packets. Now,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: granted you can buy it, you know, in like a
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: bulk container, but it's three packets and it's nine dollars
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: and forty nine cents. So the very first so when
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: you read ingredient labels. The first ingredient is always the most.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: Of course, the second one is the second most, and
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 6: on and on and so the first ingredient, like I said,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: is salt, The second is MSG. The third is modified
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 6: corn stars, which you know that means it's from GMO corn.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: It does say spices, it says onions melodextron, and it's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: got gargum, and it's got calcium stereate, and it's got
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: dried milk and soy, and so that's pretty bad. You know.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: I do read labels. I read labels on everything, and
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to eat that kind of stuff.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: I don't want to spend time in the kitchen creating
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: something and then add this sort of a thing to it. Okay, So,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: like I said, well, it's ninety six for three of these,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: and I'm not remembering or seeing what what the ounces are.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: That comes to a dollar eighty nine an ounce. I mean,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: you know, give me a break, Okay. So each one
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: of these packets is point four ounces. So from that,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: here's how you make your own. And this makes eight
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: ounces and you can put it in like a small
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: pint jar. I'll leave mine setting out, you know, my
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: my home is not really cold. You can put it
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: in the fridge, but all of this stuff is a
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: shelf stable. So I would say there's a comment in
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: here about you know, it's lasting for a week, you know,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: in an air tight jar, or refrigerated for a month,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: But that makes no sense. So it really and truly
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: is a thing dry buttermilk powder. How a cup, three
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: tablespoons of dried parsley, a tablespoon of granulated garlic, two
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: teaspoons of granulated onion, two teaspoons of dried deal weed,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: a teaspoon of dried onion flakes, a teaspoon of dried chives,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: a teaspoon It says kosher salt, you can use the
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 6: Celtic salt, and a half a teaspoon of black pepper,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: and a half a teaspoon of granulated sugar, which means
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: you can use a half a teaspoon of your wall
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: whole cane sugar and just mix it all together. And
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: I'm going to put that recipe at the rumble because
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: it does give you some recipes for making your dressing
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: and then also for making a wrench dip. But this
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: takes us to my recipe. The main recipe for tonight,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: and I've made these and everybody loves them and they're
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 6: crack burgers, and I have not done them outside, which
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: is ridiculous because I have a gas grill and I
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 6: got a trigger. But frankly it was Texas heat. It
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: was too hot. Not didn't want to do it. But
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: these are best on the grill. So this, let me
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: see how many of this makes what's be's servings. Heck,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: if I know, okay, you're gonna want one and a
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: half pounds of ground chuck. That's always the best for
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: burgers because of you know, the flavor it gives it,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: three tablespoons of sour cream, two tablespoons of the ranch
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: dressing mix that you just made or is in the recipe,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: and half of a cup of cooked and crumbled bacon.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: And then the rest no one cup of shredded chaddar cheese,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: and the rest is just whatever topics you want. And
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: so just a large bowl, you're gonna do your ground meat,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: your sour cream, your rants dressing, your bacon, and your
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: scheddar cheese. Mix it until it's just incorporated. But don't
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: overmix it because it can make your burgers be tough.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 6: And then form your patties. And yes, now it tells
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 6: you this should make six patties and that makes sense
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: quarter pounders each, and then make them however you like,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: whatever thickness you want.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: I like.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: Well, for the last couple of years we've been on
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 6: the smash burger train. We we really like taking my
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: past iron bacon press and just pressing those. Sometimes I'll cook,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'll slice up thinly vydelia onions, put that
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: on my gretel, then put a quarter pound hamburger ball
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: on it and then smash it right into those onions.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: But anyways, cook it, you know, to your desired temperature
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: for medium, you know, one hundred and forty and forty
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: five degrees. And that's basically it. That's your crack burgers.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: And like I said, I will put these at our
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: rumble Doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. I'll put them in
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: the chat. I think I had like a blonde moment
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: last week. Doc said that he puts links into chat
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 6: and uh they're clickable, and uh, I've been putting them
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: into just comments and they're not clickable. But uh, I'll
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 6: have those there shortly. That's all about that.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: That's it, And don't ask her about a care package
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: because you get your heart broke. That ain't happening. Build
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: anything on the recipes.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: No, that sounds so that was interesting.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Are you a burger man and a smashed burger man
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: on top of that?
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I like uh, I like hamburgers. This is a
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: but you know, I've I grew up, as I've said
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: many times with my Italian out who had a brother
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: who ran a restaurant and who showed me how to
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: make hamburgers, and uh which you know, you make them.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: You make them about a hardball, a snowball size, and
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: then you start slamming them down on the counter, and
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: you turn them and slam them, and you turn them
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: and slam them, and you ultimately it keeps them from
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: breaking up when you cook them, because it mashes everything
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: all up together, and all the fibers in the meat
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: kind of intertwined, and so the hamburger stays as a
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: complete unit. My mom never figured that out, and her
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: hamburgers always broke apart. But I've always made it by
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: by slamming them down three or four, three or four
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: times on either side. It gets a little noise. Scares
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: of cats, it's okay, so they make a good hamburger.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I do put stuff in it. Might either
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: cut up an onion there or cut up garlic and
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: put in there, and then I add stuff to it.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: So this sounds like a little different approach to that
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: and a little a little more interesting.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: Well, you were ahead of your time because nowadays smash
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: burger is like something new and a lot of people
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: have been beating them with a mallet all along, and
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: you guys were doing it because your friend had a restaurant.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: That's how he did it. But today it's a fancy name,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: and uh that means they can charge a lot more.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: I just you bet you yeah.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: I just like my burgers then I always have. And
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: when you know, they finally came out with a term,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: I was like, that's that's me. That's that's what I like.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 6: I like that that crispy edge on it that you get,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 6: you know, when when you smash it like that, And
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 6: of course they cook up super fast. But yeah, the
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: smash burger. I've been all about the smash burger all
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: my life. I'm not impressed with a big old thick
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: patty of around me.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: Interesting, So both of you guys were ahead of your time.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: Because this is something fairly new in the last couple
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: of years, smash burger as far as out there in
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: the commercial world, but I think a lot of people
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: have probably been doing it, making your burger stick together.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: So Bill, your mom didn't do that? Did you show her?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: How have you ever showed your mother how to do
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: anything right?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: Well? Sometimes when I just want to feel crazy, Uh yeah,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: gets smacked.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it reminds me of that joke last week. Yeah,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: the police, I might as well say it. The kid
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: goes to like police academy and he's asked, you know,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 6: what are you going to do if you have to
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: arrest your mother? I'm gonna call for backup.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: I won't give names, but somebody and my family helps
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: somebody out because they don't drive and they need help
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: going to stores and stuff. And there have been many
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: times where they told this person they were helping that
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: they couldn't buy that, and they couldn't buy that, and
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: they didn't know what was good or bad for them,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: but they thought they did. And this last week I
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: was told that they wanted a curling iron and they
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: were told, no, you might forget to turn it off.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: So I made sure that person got a curling iron
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: and told them, don't tell the other person, so you
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: don't have to hear a bunch of bull. And nowadays
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: the curling irons have auto shut off anyway, So that
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: was kind of a dumb thing to tell them. But
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: I just hate if you're gonna help somebody and you
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: take them to the store or whatever, let them do
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: what they want. None of us have the right to
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: tell somebody else. So let's that your child and you're
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: raising them, and we're all past that, you know, to
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: a point where the kids get well, you know, but
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 4: the kids get to a certain age and they've already
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: got their mind made up a lot of things. You
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: just try to guide them some But to take somebody
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: who's lived a full life to the store and tell
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: them what they can have and what they can't have
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: just wrong, absolutely wrong.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: So douc hey, doc, Yeah, there is such a thing
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: as a curling iron that auto shuts off.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's what we got, okay, Yeah, because that was
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: what they were told, I can't have the curling iron
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: I want.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: And what they did.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: I don't understand this because I've never bought them, but
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: they said that the person bought them some little rollers
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: and it wasn't what they wanted, but they felt like
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: that was safe. Just disgust me.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: Unless you step on them.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Unless you step on them, and then they're not safe.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I remind people all the time, and
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: over the last few decades of doing this, when somebody
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: you'll tell me, well, I got my daughters doing this,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: or the son in law, or somebody's trying to tell
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: us what to do. I remind people you're still the
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: head of the family. You don't have to let them
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: bully you. You're the head and they're not. You know,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: if it's you're the dad or you're the mom, they're
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: still your saunder daughter and they don't get to tell
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: you what to do. But a lot of people try,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: you know, Like the way I think of it, if
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: you lived to ninety or one hundred or longer and
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: you want to drink, smoke and chase wild women in
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: your wheelchair, go for it. I saw a thing the
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: other day. The oldest living veteran from the Civil War,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know why they said civil because it was
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: not civil at all, was laying on his deathbed smoking.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: A cigar.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: And he was one hundred and sixteen years old, and
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that person in my family would have told
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: him you can't have a cigar, and he would have said,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: I'm dying. Shut up. So I don't know anybody out
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: there that feels the need to control people. Go get
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: a race car or something that has a remote control. God,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: leave them alone, let them live their life. People say, well,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: smoking's bad for you, Well, there's been people that smoked
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: their whole life and never had a problem. And there's
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: been people that never smoked and died of lung cancer
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: at thirty. So you can't tell people that. You can't
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: say this is bad or this is good. That we
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: could say we know that this is probably not the
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 4: best for you, But if that's something you want. You
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: you're one hundred and sixteen years old, I think you
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: ought to be able to have whatever you want exactly.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: Well, you know the reason I know about the curling
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: iron because I've had a tendency to leave my curling
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 6: iron on. And there's not much that irritates my husband,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 6: but if I leave my curling iron on, he says,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: do you really want to burn your house down?
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: That's really what you want to do?
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's very smart. And if you can't
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 6: remember to turn your curling iron off, maybe you did
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 6: not have one. So my iron cuts off automatically. My
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: curling iron. I've got two or three different curling irons.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 6: They all cut off automatically, and so I don't get
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: chewed out no more.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: And like them.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: That that that man he needs to watch the John
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: Wayne movie called McClintock.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that woman sees something else.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And and he finally had enough and he bent
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: her over his knee.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: No, no, no no.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: And one of those guys handed ema, I don't know,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: like a fireplace shovel. It was hilarious, but but he's right.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: You know that that's dangerous, you know. And uh, when
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 6: my iron broke, I got me a shark. I love
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: that thing, and uh, it just shuts off automatically. I'm like,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: you're my new best friend. I'm not gonna get in
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: trouble no more.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: Oh funny. All right, guys, Well we're at that time
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: of the night, says he. Have you got anything you'd
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: like to close with?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 6: No? Just ladies, do the automatic shut off heat devices.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: Anything that helps smooth out of marriage is worth it.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: You know, the automatic cut off curling iron, you know,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 6: especially if you work outside the home and you have
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: to run out the door and you're driving down the
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 6: road and you're going, did I turned my calle on off?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, funny bill anything?
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I did? But I forgot what it was.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: That blonde girl did it to you, didn't she?
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: No, It's just there's just not enough going on in
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: my mind and it just goes away.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: Well, knowing you you got some deep thoughts going on,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: there's not a lot of room up there with all
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: the music you remember and all the analyzing psychos.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff. I think a lot of a
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: lot of people who are you know, when folks get older,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: it's just not that they forget stuff or that they
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: move the ability to uh to cognatively handle things. Just
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: got too much stuff.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: Going on, right, Our hard drives get full.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: That's why I've said that forever. People keep saying, oh,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: I'm getting older, I forgot no what it is? Is
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: There so much information that has bombarded your CPU that
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: by the time you get to a certain age, you've
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: learned to push stuff aside, clear some memory, and and
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: you decide what's important and what's not and uh. And
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: there are things that we can take to help us
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: with our memory if there is any kind of issues,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: and I've had a lot of patience for that, you know,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: some of them like Kinkobaloba, Bill Berry, it's good for
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: night vision, and what's that.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Gosh tequila?
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And they either help you remember
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: or forget, you know, or who cares right yeah? Or
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: who cares right?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: And it's so funny. I loved it when I saw
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 4: that thing with the guy one hundred and sixteen years
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: old smoking a cigar and they said he was laying
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: on his bed shortly before he died. But by the
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: time you get to a certain age, your family should
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: not be trying to dictate to you like you're the
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: kid and they're thet You're still the head of the
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: family and unless you're just totally delirious, they don't have
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: the right to try to control you.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: But some people do. And my family it's uh, there's
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: some some real real control freaks and they cannot stand it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm going to hear about it when they
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: find out that Curl and Iron got bought. Now, I'm
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: gonna hear it bad. But it does automatically shut off.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know they did that, Susie, until this
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  Speaker 4: incident came up.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they did that for me. And then the other
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  Speaker 6: gadget that's for me is because I'm directionally challenged, is GPS.
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  Speaker 6: And when that stuff came out, you know, it was
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 6: external it was a gadget, and then a garment or
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 6: something like that. I can't remember the name of it.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, I am so getting that,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm never getting lost in Santonio or Houston or
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  Speaker 6: Austin again ever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, sometimes those things will steer you wrong. But
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  Speaker 4: I have noticed I have never ever seen a woman
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: walk out of a store and remember where their car is.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: I see them in the parking lot, hitting the thing,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: trying to get at the honk, looking running and pushing
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: their cart around lost. And in my family, every woman
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  Speaker 4: has always been that way. They can't find the car.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the old ladies, because I'm not one
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  Speaker 6: of them. They go and get a plastic flower like
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: a rose, and they tape it to their antenna if
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 6: they have an antenna. And I used to wonder what
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  Speaker 6: is that? But real quick, a friend of mine was
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 6: at a big parking lot. Some woman was coming out
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  Speaker 6: with her bags and she was holding that remote up
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 6: and she was clicking it trying to get her car
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  Speaker 6: to honk, and he hit his horn every time she
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: held up.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean, uh, what a world we.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 6: Live in, and that he bragged about doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Really, that's that's sad. That's sad. Funny but great idea. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know you brought up that blond so sussy and
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: I'm reminded of that joke and I got to tell it.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: I'm sure we probably talked about it before, or maybe not,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know. But there was a blonde on the
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: airplane and she sat down in a first class section
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: and she didn't have a first class ticket, and the
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: stewardess is back then. Now they call them flight attendants,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: but back then they would call them the stewardess. And
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 4: they they tried to explain to this lady that you
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: have a ticket for coach and you're sitting up here
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: in first class, and she kept telling them I'm blonde,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: and I'm fabulous, and I'm staying right here, and they
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: just went over this over and over and over, and
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: she would never budge. She just kept saying I'm blonde,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: I'm fabulous, and I'm not moving from this seat. So
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: finally they hadn't taken off yet, and the captain, Oh no,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: they had taken off, and they and the captain got
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 4: up for a moment, and one of the ladies said, hey,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: we got a problem with this lady in first class.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: And as soon as they told him it was a blonde,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 4: he said, I'll take care of it. He said, I
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: speak blonde. I'm married to one. So so he walks
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: over to her and he said, ma'am. They said, they've
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: tried to explain to you that you're in the wrong seat.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 4: I'm blond, and I'm fabulous, and I'm not moving, he said,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 4: But what you don't understand is first class does not
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 4: go to the city that you want to go to,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 4: only coach and she got up and moved.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I love it all right, guys, Well we're at that
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: time of night. I cannot thank our producer Steve, Susie
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: and Bill enough and all you ladies and gentlemen to
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: tune in and listen to us. We are so grateful,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: so honored. I noticed we had India, Canada, Spain, where
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: else did we have. I'm trying. Oh United Kingdom. We
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: had about eight different countries that we were being listened
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 4: to in and that was always a great feeling. And
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: we're so honored that you guys tune in and we
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: appreciate it and click like on some of those things.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 4: It's supposed to help us a little bit, well, we
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: don't know, and we go out to a lot of
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: different things. So if you're listening to us on Rumble,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: we're also on many other formats that you can pick
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: us up. But I like to thank everybody, and I
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: know you guys appreciate the work that Steve does and
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 4: Susie and Bill. If it wasn't for Susie and Steve
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 4: working on all this place, Matt that I've ruined him
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 4: and now they call it, we wouldn't have the cool
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 4: pictures and all that stuff on Rumble. Bill and I
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: do not do that, but thank God that they do.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: And it is so great to have the weekly topic
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: and the recipes. It's just a lot of fun and
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: the blonde joke just helped. So anyway, May God bless
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: you all with health and happiness, keep your lives peaceful,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: free and safe. And as you know, it is that
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: time of night for good Scotch, good cigars, and good.
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  Speaker 6: Night, good night all, not everyone, God bless.
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  Speaker 5: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so old
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 5: before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the taste
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 5: of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: I teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: the way that even breeze.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 5: May tease a candle flame. The thousand dreams I dreamed,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: the splendid things I planned. I always built to last
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 5: on weekend.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: Shifting sand.
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  Speaker 5: I lived by night and shun the naked light of day.
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  Speaker 4: And only now I see how the years ran away.