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The Epstein List Names Have Arrived... And? · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Start your day with Wes. You're listening to the West
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  Speaker 1: Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, eighteenth day of February. I'm Wes. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining me. Yep, still sound like this. I wish I
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  Speaker 2: could tell you that I sound better than I feel.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty close. It's pretty close. Maybe maybe some improvement.
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  Speaker 2: I hope we're finally coming out of this. It's occurred
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  Speaker 2: to me though, that coming out of this long, very
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  Speaker 2: very long illness that I guess is a cold. I
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  Speaker 2: think I told you yesterday that the doctors who saw
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  Speaker 2: half of my family described it. One of them at
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  Speaker 2: least described it as a flu like non flu virus.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds sound to me like they just like saying,
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  Speaker 2: I don't we don't know what it is, and I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's what he said. We don't know exactly what
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  Speaker 2: it is, but it's something viral and it has, you know,
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  Speaker 2: done horrible things to us for a period of time
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  Speaker 2: about a week. And I'm getting close to my week,
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  Speaker 2: so hopefully very soon I'll at least get my voice back.
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  Speaker 2: But it's occurred to me that after going through this,
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  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen next? And this is where things become
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  Speaker 2: especially interesting for Jake and I. Jake, my seventeen year
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  Speaker 2: old is yesterday like I had to I had to
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  Speaker 2: like actually be out and about because I had to
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  Speaker 2: do some school play dad uber yesterday even though I
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  Speaker 2: didn't feel great. Jill took some of my normal dad
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  Speaker 2: ubering responsibilities yesterday, but there was there. I can't even
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  Speaker 2: say it. I mean, I have to say it though,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't be the first one to have noticed this.
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  Speaker 2: We've noticed that the weather has started to change a bit.
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  Speaker 2: The groundhog up in Pennsylvania doesn't really apply to us,
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  Speaker 2: as it's pretty evident with the birds chirping and the
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  Speaker 2: weeds starting to bloom that spring spring is upon us.
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  Speaker 2: In many ways, not the literal season hasn't started yet.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't even gotten to the calendar start, which is
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  Speaker 2: technically March. But the pollen is there. I started to
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  Speaker 2: see it yesterday and I thought, oh, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna come out of this. And Jake and I
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  Speaker 2: are the two major allergy sufferers in the house, so
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna come out of this cold right on into
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  Speaker 2: you know, the seasonal stuff. So yeah, this is just
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  Speaker 2: your reminder that if you have to take seasonal allergy meds.
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  Speaker 2: Now is the time, I guess to start. Consult your doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Probably the time to start if you're taking the over
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  Speaker 2: the counter stuff. At least it's time for us to start.
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  Speaker 2: And I again, like I, like I tried to tell
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  Speaker 2: you with COVID, talk to your doctor. That's all I
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  Speaker 2: can do. COVID or the GLP ones that we go
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  Speaker 2: vis and you know, talk to your doctor whatever whatever,
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  Speaker 2: your doctor and you can say this is what we want.
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  Speaker 2: That they're supposed to be the ones guiding you on
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  Speaker 2: this journey, and it's your body that's where we should be.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it should be for almost everything, shouldn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the doctor shouldn't be advising you on legal matters,
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  Speaker 2: but it's the same principle. You know your lawyer and
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  Speaker 2: then your decision what you want to do, how it
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  Speaker 2: should go with things. I'm a strong advocate for just
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  Speaker 2: let's all live our lives. Man. You know, be the
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  Speaker 2: best human being that you can be in accordance with
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is that's going I have my principles and
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  Speaker 2: my faith in my Savior that guide me, and I
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  Speaker 2: hope that you have the same. And if you don't,
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  Speaker 2: it's your life. I hope that you can find the
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  Speaker 2: thing that's going to guide you based on my personal experience.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you find the same thing that I did
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  Speaker 2: to guide you. That's what I hope. That's my hope
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  Speaker 2: for you. But that's what we need. That's what this
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  Speaker 2: country's founded on. Is nobody's gonna tell us what we
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  Speaker 2: can do and what we can't do. But lately that's
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  Speaker 2: all we do is we tell each other what we
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  Speaker 2: can and can't do. You gotta think this way, you
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  Speaker 2: got to act this way, you gotta live this way,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta take this shot, you gotta do all these things.
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  Speaker 2: We're just we're into this mind virus, aren't we. That's
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  Speaker 2: what it is anyway, So we're we're just knocking on
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  Speaker 2: the door of the pollen's here, but we're really knocking
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  Speaker 2: on the door of spring birds chirping and lizards running around.
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  Speaker 2: I saw lizard yesterday and I thought those they they're
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  Speaker 2: coming out to get some sun. They want to warm up.
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  Speaker 2: There were big ones too. How do they get so
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  Speaker 2: big instantly? Where have they been? They just been hiding?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I need to do a little study
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  Speaker 2: and a little research on my lizardology studies. So again,
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  Speaker 2: probably be a little shorter show today. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the endurance back from from being ill,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know how long I can go. One
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  Speaker 2: thing I do just want to address today, just as
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  Speaker 2: a topic, is a little bit on, like, now that
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  Speaker 2: we've had the full list, I guess all the Epstein
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  Speaker 2: files and accordance to the law have been released, all
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  Speaker 2: the names have been released, and suddenly now the like
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  Speaker 2: there's a different attitude now when the full list comes out.
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  Speaker 2: It's just interesting now how there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a change. So this is this, this is what I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of want to give an example. But first
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind that when we didn't know what all
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  Speaker 2: the names were going to be, Okay, we had an idea,
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  Speaker 2: we knew who some of the names were going to be.
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  Speaker 2: We knew some of the names. We were pretty confident.
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  Speaker 2: And what happened in the midst of the mystery of
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  Speaker 2: who the names would be when all the files were out,
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  Speaker 2: all of the redactions were revealed or whatever. And now
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  Speaker 2: that Pam Bondi has finally gotten around to it, there's
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  Speaker 2: still people screaming that she shouldn't be attorney general anymore
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  Speaker 2: and all these things. But eventually they got there, and
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  Speaker 2: there were some reasons. I don't know that we've been
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  Speaker 2: given all of the reasons, but we've been told you
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  Speaker 2: can't just drop all the names out there because it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be bad for a lot of people because
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  Speaker 2: some of the names in the list, or people that
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  Speaker 2: aren't necessarily guilty of anything, their names are just in there.
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  Speaker 2: I remember hearing this. I think we heard this even
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  Speaker 2: from the president, didn't we. And people were like, well,
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  Speaker 2: of course he's going to say that because his name's
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  Speaker 2: going to be in there, and it is. It's in
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  Speaker 2: there a lot, but it's in there in this context
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  Speaker 2: of you know, he ran Epstein out of mar A Lago,
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  Speaker 2: all of these accusers, and people saying that Trump had
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with any of it, because they were questioned.
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  Speaker 2: They were asked, his name is in it a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but his name is not in there that I've seen
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  Speaker 2: that I've heard officially in any sort of guilty capacity.
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  Speaker 2: But people wanted to say, well, his name's in there
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  Speaker 2: a lot, that must mean he's guilty. It's like saying,
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  Speaker 2: we hear Trump's name mentioned a lot in the news.
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  Speaker 2: So he must be a horrible person. Well, his name's
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  Speaker 2: mentioned a lot in the news because they talk about
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  Speaker 2: him a lot, and because he's now the president again.
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  Speaker 2: It happens sometimes, right, But you can't just sit back
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  Speaker 2: and just say, well he's been impeached twice, that means
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  Speaker 2: he's terrible. Well, they impeached him twice to hang the
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  Speaker 2: scarlet letter on him. That's what they did. That doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean anything. There's no guilt anyway. It's still a little different,
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  Speaker 2: I know. So his name is in it a lot
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  Speaker 2: because he was discussed a lot in emails and things.
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  Speaker 2: It's just how things have played out. And I know
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  Speaker 2: people are still digging through all of these files and things,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of things in there that are
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  Speaker 2: really disturbing. Videos, pictures, things nothing to do with Trump,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a lot of disturbing stuff in there. And
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  Speaker 2: the list of names does include some people, and that
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  Speaker 2: we knew that we're going to be in there. No
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  Speaker 2: surprise that you know, Bill and Hillary Clinton are in there,
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  Speaker 2: No big shock, no surprise. Everybody kind of knew they
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  Speaker 2: were going to be in there. And trips to islands
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  Speaker 2: and things aside. Let's just say there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: names in there. It doesn't mean everybody whose name in
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  Speaker 2: there is guilty of everything. Which leads us to the
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  Speaker 2: example that I would like to give, because now one
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  Speaker 2: of the names that's in there wood be Goldberg. She
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  Speaker 2: took her time on the View to discuss this, basically saying,
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  Speaker 2: in the name of transparency, my name is in the files.
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  Speaker 2: And she basically referenced the fact that there was an
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  Speaker 2: email that was being sent that when they were asking
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  Speaker 2: they wanted Whoopy Goldberg to travel on an airplane, asking
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  Speaker 2: if Jeffrey Epstein would offer his private plane for her
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  Speaker 2: to fly on it. This wasn't about her going to
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  Speaker 2: the island, This wasn't about her doing anything other than
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  Speaker 2: using the plane, and someone was asking on her behalf, no,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to have to hit the mute button
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  Speaker 2: for a second, so for coughing purposes. So and then
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  Speaker 2: on the View, she enjoyed Bahar basically saying that anybody's
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  Speaker 2: name can be on this list, Yes, and that would
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  Speaker 2: explain some of the sentiment about just dropping all of
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  Speaker 2: these names and files at once without any sort of
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  Speaker 2: understanding of what was in there, why it had to
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  Speaker 2: be handled delicately. Now, I'm with you. Maybe that's maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's they underestimate our ability to handle it. Maybe by
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  Speaker 2: holding it back the way they did just gives more
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  Speaker 2: room for the conspiracy folks. I don't know, conspiracy folks
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  Speaker 2: have already been running with us for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Go back to q and On about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you got people like Bill Mahers saying, we kind of
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  Speaker 2: ow qan On a little apology. You were right about
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  Speaker 2: more of this than we thought you were. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff in here. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't dig deep into the q and On stuff
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  Speaker 2: back in the day. I knew people that did. I
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  Speaker 2: think I talked about this. Last week, I knew people
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  Speaker 2: who did. They were in it. They were all about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I just was like, eh, come on, come on,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, some of it, we think I could
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  Speaker 2: buy that, but not all of it. I still don't
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  Speaker 2: buy all of it. But you know, like they say,
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  Speaker 2: as the conspiracies are coming true, you go, well, we
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  Speaker 2: have to kind of see where it all plays out.
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  Speaker 2: My point, though, is that some of the QAnon stuff
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  Speaker 2: is what Bill Maher is talking about, saying, Hey, this
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  Speaker 2: stuff ended up being right. That's Bill maher. Now you've
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  Speaker 2: got Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar and others defending, saying, well, wha,
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  Speaker 2: wha wa, wait a minute, just cause your name's in
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  Speaker 2: there doesn't mean you're bad. And see, this is the
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  Speaker 2: interesting game that's played. It's our names aren't bad for
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  Speaker 2: being in there, but Trump, Yeah, he's bad for being
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  Speaker 2: in there because of how many times he's in there.
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  Speaker 2: They're ignoring the context of what was said about it.
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  Speaker 2: And if we're going to be honest and sincere about
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  Speaker 2: all this, you really have to go into why the
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  Speaker 2: names are in there, and what context, in what way
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  Speaker 2: the names are in there, What are the accusations, what
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  Speaker 2: are the things that are being said. Because understand this,
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  Speaker 2: yes we have this general curiosity about all this, and yes,
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  Speaker 2: we want to know what happened to Jeffrey Epsteen. We
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  Speaker 2: want to know the truth, We want to know all
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  Speaker 2: of that. But let's be real for a minute. There's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a certain contingency of people who don't
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  Speaker 2: care about the truth. They want their truth. And see,
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting to me that we have the conspiracy theorists
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  Speaker 2: who say, I want my truth. I want to find
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  Speaker 2: what I know to be the truth. And then we
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  Speaker 2: also have a certain number of people on the left
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  Speaker 2: who talk about my truth. This is my truth. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is my truth about transgenderism, this is my truth
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  Speaker 2: about sexuality, This is my truth about what's right and
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  Speaker 2: wrong versus truth truth. It's kind of interesting, isn't. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just throwing that out there because that's one of those
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  Speaker 2: things that's been coming up here lately, this idea of
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  Speaker 2: my truth. So basically what we goalwork saying, I speak
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  Speaker 2: about me because I'm getting dragged. People have actually believed
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  Speaker 2: that I was with him. It's like, honey, come on,
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  Speaker 2: every man I've ever been with you known about because
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  Speaker 2: you're either The Inquirer wrote about it, people wrote about
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. So no, I never had this, and no,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get on the plane because you know what
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  Speaker 2: I would have to do to get on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: And they were basically referencing the fact that she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like to fly. That's babbel, but that's what she said. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Do I think Woopy Goldberg because her name is on
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  Speaker 2: the list, is guilty of anything we jet? No, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know for certain, but just because her name is
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  Speaker 2: on there, just like many of these others, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that they're necessarily guilty of anything because their name
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  Speaker 2: is in there. Some of these people are, though, and
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  Speaker 2: we do need to get to the truth. We do
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  Speaker 2: need to know the answers, and we do really need
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  Speaker 2: to know what happened to Jeffrey Epstein in that cell.
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  Speaker 2: And there's this growing conspiracy that he what happened in
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  Speaker 2: that cell wasn't even him. I'm not necessarily jumping into
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  Speaker 2: that one. I'm just pointing out that that's out there.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's like some of the conspiracies said, you
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  Speaker 2: almost have to acknowledge it in case we find out
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  Speaker 2: in six months, oh yeah, he's still alive and living
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  Speaker 2: under the name Ted or whatever. And so you just
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  Speaker 2: feel like you have to just put it out there.
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  Speaker 2: You just have to throw it out. But like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still not in on all of them. Okay, you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to convince me yet that we didn't land
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  Speaker 3: after the break, well have you heard this term mogging?
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  Speaker 3: So this is apparently a new term for something.
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  Speaker 2: The actual practice isn't necessarily anything new. It's probably really
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  Speaker 2: in our DNA. I know it's in DNA for I
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  Speaker 2: guess all animals, or at least all mammals. There's an
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  Speaker 2: element to it, most of them maybe, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: some of them want more laid back ones maybe not
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  Speaker 2: so much, but you know, more of the alphas at
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  Speaker 2: the very least the ones higher on the food chain
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  Speaker 2: would probably it would fit. So the term mogging it
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  Speaker 2: comes from the term a mog or a mog, which
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  Speaker 2: is that means alpha male of a group. Okay, And
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  Speaker 2: mogging is basically a term that's being used now when
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  Speaker 2: people someone asserts their aggressiveness, their alpha neess on other
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  Speaker 2: people dominance. It's specifically being used primarily to reference I guess,
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  Speaker 2: men asserting it over younger men, right, and it's supposedly
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  Speaker 2: some sort of toxic masculinity thing. I would think though
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  Speaker 2: technically if people are doing it, like I mean, when
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  Speaker 2: you start talking about it from alpha male standpoint, but
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  Speaker 2: asserting dominance is not something that's specifically only male capable,
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  Speaker 2: is all I want to point out. But this term
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  Speaker 2: isn't necessary like people that use it or probably you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not nice people necessarily if they think that
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  Speaker 2: they're doing it and asserting it in a very deliberate way.
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  Speaker 2: But I would just think anybody that's asserting their sort
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of dominance in a group would be mogging, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: But it's definitely being attributed as a toxic masculinity thing.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, do you and your partner travel well? Well,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: there's a new survey that says twenty five percent of
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: couples say that they are incompatible travel partners. According to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the survey, among the top things that couples disagree about
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  Speaker 2: when on vacation or where to eat that's every weekend, right,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: what times to wake up, when to go to bed,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: activities that you do, how much to spend. Only about
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: twenty eight percent think their partner ticks all the boxes
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: when it comes to traveling together. But it's not all
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: doom and gloom. A quarter of couple say that opposites
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: actually make trips more fun, helping them avoid silly arguments,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: who gets the window seat, how early to get to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the airport, There was sorting things. Yeah, these are things
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  Speaker 2: that you kind of have to experience to know the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: answer to if you're in a young relationship early in
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the process. Sometimes it's the honeymoon for people when they
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: do that first trip and they go hang on this
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: is a very different approach to things. All I'll say
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: to you if you're early in the process and you go,
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  Speaker 2: I need to go to the beach and just relax,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and your partner says, I to go to the beach
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and you know, visit museums and nature centers and things.
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  Speaker 2: At first, it'll be an adjustment in time. You can
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: find that compromise. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And especially if you marry someone who is from a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: continent far far away, and that person when they travel,
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  Speaker 2: they like to do everything to do when you're there,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: they like to take everything in. Because I can just
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: speak specifically form my experience, Australians they don't know when
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: they're going to go back to a certain place because
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: they're so far away from everything. So but it does.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And Jill and are great travel companions now and our
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: whole family. We just did our trip last summer and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: everybody clicked. Man, it was great. Everything worked. It wasn't
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: without stress, as you may know. I documented a lot
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of that here on the show, but we managed it.
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  Speaker 2: We got in there and we got it done. So
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: there you go. All rights. Also on the subject of couples.
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  Speaker 2: New research says that one surprisingly simple habit that can
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: help couples stay bonded when life gets tough is to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: just take a minute and reminisce together. Study found that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: couples who regularly savor good memories, enjoy the present, or
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: daydream about future plans are way more resilient when stress hits. Basically,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: if you and your partner take time to relive fun vacations,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: laugh about old inside jokes, get excited about what's coming
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: up next, and your relationships stay solid even when everything
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: else will overwhelming. Key is about doing it together, not
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: just silently thinking happy thoughts off by yourself. So that'll
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: do it for this Wednesday edition of the show. Thanks
• 23:12
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• 23:16
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