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Tyra Banks lacks accountability in the ANTM Netflix documentary · The Comment Section

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Speaker 1: Oh, Wendy, Wendy, Wendy, Wendy, Wendy. I feel like Wendy's
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gonna go to jail, David, I, I just can see
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her some time in prison.
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Speaker 2: Friends, Start over, start over? Where's your energy? You do
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not want to be here?
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Speaker 1: Well? Well you better? You better? You bet? Mister market
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got did together?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 1: All right, let'll start over. Oh, Wendy, I can't wait
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till you go to jail? Is that better for you?
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Do you want me to be happy about Wendy possibly
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going to jail? Like, how do you what's the energy
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that you want from me?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: You know what my energy is?
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Speaker 3: Like that?
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Speaker 1: Because I I watched the Potomac Reunion on Sunday Part
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one and Wendy Osea. This is the first time Wendy
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Osepha is speaking out since her arrest happened back in
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was October. I think her arrest happened her and Eddie's
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arrest for the insurance scam that they try to full do.
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Now you're new to Housewives, so usually after every Housewives show,
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they usually go on Andy Cohen's Watch What Happens Live show,
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which is like the after show. But Wendy has not
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done that all season because I'm assuming that her lawyers
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advised her not to go on any shows or podcasts
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because she can't talk about any of these legal actions.
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So this is our first time really listening to Wendy
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talk about her arrest. And you know what, we, as
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the watcher, the viewers, the audience, we are already knowing
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that Wendy is probably gonna face jail time her and
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her husband. But watching it on Sunday, hearing her talk
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about spending the night in jail, hearing her talk about
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having her son find out about their arrest online and
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he was scared to tell them that he saw them
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getting arrested online. Hearing that made me sad, you know,
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like damn.
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Speaker 2: Because they should have missed it, because they should have
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been lying. He ain't make me sad.
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Speaker 4: And then wearing the ship on the episode. And then
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fans are gonna.
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Speaker 2: Spot it out.
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Speaker 4: Fans be catching stuff all the time. I ain't feel bad.
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I'm feel bad for the kid, but I ain't feel
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bad situation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I even felt bad for the catch too,
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because when they're in jail. Wendy said that the kids
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had to say at her sister's house while her and
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Eddieburh in jail and her sister and Wendy's mother don't
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be like Wendy. So I know they're talking about I
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know they were talking shit to the kids about all
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their whole job. Could you imagine what the sister and
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the mother were saying about Wendy to her kids.
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Speaker 2: Probably, damn, mama, you're stealing, mama.
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Speaker 1: Don't be like your mama.
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Speaker 4: And if you're doing be smart, don't be dumb and
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have it online. Don't put your business online. That's what
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they get. Probably something very similar to bad I'm going
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to do.
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Speaker 1: I just know that they were talking so what shit
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about Wendy to her own kids.
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Speaker 2: If you was Auntie, I know you would.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, if you was an auntie, you will
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be talking so much shit, especially for what they did.
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Like you said you wearing the shit on the show.
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You returned the shit, the cops got the receipts of
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you returning the shit, and then you said that there
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was stolen. There was no one who ever broke in
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your house. It was a stupid everything. The whole entire
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scam that they try to do was just so stupid,
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so stupid, and Wendy if I were you, I wouldn't
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even be saying none of this on the reunion. In fact,
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I wouldn't have even shown up to the reunion because
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this may jeopardize your case. This may make the judge.
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First of all, you should have cried. That's number one.
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You didn't shut a tear. You know she said it
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far yes, because it's gonna make the judge feel bad.
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The judge is watching you on this reunion. You came
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in here. First of all, she was the best stress
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to me. Shut a beautiful red old down. Her hair
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was laid ooh, she looked good. She was the best
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stress to me at this reunion. I would have been
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looking thrifting, honey. I would have showed it up looking
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having a glamous life.
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Speaker 4: Against them using all of these things gift them. And honestly,
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in my opinion, to just the small snippets that I seen,
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because I did not see all of this, but from
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the small snippets that I seen, she did not look remorseful.
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She didn't really look like she's like, hey, this is
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what happened, blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: Baby.
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Speaker 4: To your point, Mark is your ass should be crying,
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be emotional because.
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Speaker 2: They are using this shit against you.
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Speaker 1: Don't think they can.
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Speaker 4: Use all this publicly available filming for your ass. She
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she don't even feel bad about Can she looking as
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good as she was looking?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean maybe she dress good for this reunion,
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her best look by Let me just say that this
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is her best reunion look by far. Maybe she looked
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her best because she knows this could possibly be her
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last reunion because she may be in jail for a
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couple of years.
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Speaker 2: At a refund she get from the that return shit.
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Speaker 1: And Angel MESSI I was rooting for you, Angel. Let
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me the Angel came to play. Angel was ready for war.
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You know how someone is so angry, You know how
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someone you know someone's angry when they're just interjecting themselves
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in every conversation and just ready for war. She was
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just ready to fight anybody, all right. She was just
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interjecting herself in every conversation, just with russion and anger
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as as she deserves. I mean, she was bullied all season.
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In my opinion, she was coming for Ashley and Giselle
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and I was here for it. And I'm like, this
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is the Angel that we should have been seeing all season,
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This type of Angel but as I will. Somebody said
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something to her, though, Marcus.
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Speaker 4: You know, somebody probably said, do you not realize how
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you were looking and how you were looking weak sometimes
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and how they were ganging up on you.
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Speaker 1: Do not go dowre and do that again.
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Speaker 2: Girl. You need to go there and fight.
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Speaker 4: That's probably if somebody had to talk to her.
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Speaker 1: But you know what this is. This was her first season,
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so when you're filming it, you probably don't know how
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to play the game. And she said in it interview
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that she waited until the reunion to watch all the episodes,
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and I'm sure she was angry and someone probably talked
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to her and then she was like, you know what,
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I'm a chin. Check all these hate and ass holes
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because that's what they are, hateing assholes, Giselle and Ashley,
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hating ass Ashley is an ashy ho, so she's a
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hat and ass ashy ho. All right, hating asshole. I'm
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not gonna call her ashy because she's an ashy. But
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good for you. Angel. I was in the corner cheerleading,
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get her Angel, get her Angel, get her Angel. Is
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that a good chair? What's a good chair? I supused
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to be saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, we we
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just we were just you're rooting for her, Oh, we're
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rooting for you.
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Speaker 4: That not that cheerleading like that. That ain't ain't that
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was some stiff ass cheer and base.
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Speaker 1: And and Stacey Rush, who was also on the Potomac Houswives,
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you know, I'm rooting for you too. She was also
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coming at Jesse and Ashley. You know, I just room
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for anyone who going who was going against the two
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bullies of Potomac, which is Ashley and Giselle Bryant. But
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but but yeah, Wendy, I feel like you're going to
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go to jail. It's just it was just really heartbreaking
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listening to you talk about your time in jail. And
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she even talked about her wig, you know, the picture.
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I don't know if you remember her her picture. The
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wig was this wigging in her muckshot. So she was saying,
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before she she say she got arrested, she was actually
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taken a nap and her husband woke her up and
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said the police are at the door. So she had
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to throw something on her head. And that's the wig
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that she threw on her head.
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Speaker 4: That's the Walmart's that Walmart wig we just running down
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the store real quick.
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Speaker 1: I will be watching Part two reunion Monique, Samuel's beyond there, Jessie.
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I don't even know Jassi's last name. She's a friend
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of so she's really not that important. So Jessie would
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be on part two, So I'll be there this Sunday.
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Can't wait this season and was a good Seasopotomac so
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can't wait for uh this Sunday, David. Now, you know,
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back in the day, America's Next Top Model was the
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Real Housewives. Back in the day, you know, everybody was
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glued to their screens watching America's Next Top Models was
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a Tuesday or Wednesday night every week on up And
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remember when I remember UPN throwback Thursday is it's such
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a throwback right UPN. Remember UPN had all the good shows,
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girlfriends one to one, half and half. UPN was a show.
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It was really the network back in the day. Right
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What happened UPN? They merged Remember the WB remember the
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network at the w B. Yeah, they merged together to
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create the CW. That's how the CW came about, was
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because both networks merged together. YEP movie Show was part
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of UPN. YEP the Parkers was part of upn Yeah,
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they all they all merged together. Well. Netflix has a
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documentary about America's Next Top Model and the capacity, especially
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because a lot of people started to rewatch the older
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seasons and notice so much wrong that Tyra and the
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Judges put these women through with body shaming, black facing,
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having girls get sexual assaulted and drugged and potentially alleged
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rate child. Netflix put a three part documentary and I
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watched it the day it came out. I was glued.
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I watched it in my office on Monday. I was
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glued to my iPad screen glued because, like I said,
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America's Next Top Model was a big reality show back
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in the early two thousands. You know, this is before
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the Real Housewives. This was before maybe during the time
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Real World was popular. I want to say, this is
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before American Idol. I think that maybe the American Idol
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America's Next to Model was Neck and Neck around the
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same time I think it was.
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Speaker 2: I know it was like the early two thousand. But
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one thing is that show was the show that kind
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of started like Judges like being kind of like mean.
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That was almost like the start of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, show and mean you know what I mean,
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like judges, I don't remember it before that. Yeah, yeah right,
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So Netflix and Netflix documentary it's called Reality Check Inside
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America's Next Top Model, and we got to see mister
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and miss and mister and miss Jay Nigel Barker and
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of course the creator of the show, missed Tyra Banks.
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And this is the first time that Tyra is actually
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speaking out against all the backlashes she has been receiving
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since people have been rewatching America's dock Top Model. So
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to me, when I watched this documentary, Tyra Banks didn't
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take an accountability. She actually none of the judges took accountability.
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What almost every single one of the judges was saying
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was twenty years ago was a different time, or you
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know that was acceptable in that time, or no one
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really said I'm sorry for doing that. That shouldn't happened,
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that we shouldn't have said that, we shouldn't have done that,
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especially when it came to do you remember there was
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two women who had teeth issue. One of the women
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her name was Danielle and the other one was named Joanie.
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I believe Joanie. They shaved and removed Janie's teeth right,
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only ten hours and there was a video of her
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was like, look, dude, she was just all her pace
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was all puffy. And then they still made her do
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a photo shoot the next day and then Danielle Danielle
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had a gap and the judges Tyra Banks told her,
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no one's gonna think that you're cute to be a model,
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you need to close a gap. And they made Danielle
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close a gap, you know, And people went back and
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when they were rewatching the seasons, people are like, how
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dare they tell these two women that you need to
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get your teeth done or you need to close your gap?
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How dare you make Danielle close our gap and say
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that no nat the agency is going to ever want
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to book you. And then I didn't see when I
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watch the documentary because I watched Amercrosocs Model for a
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couple of seasons, so after a while it got old
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to me. But I guess later in the series, towards
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the end of the series, like and they're like, you know,
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season twenty, I guess Tyra Banks made someone get a gap,
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and she made center to the dentist and parted her
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teeth to make her get a gap permanently. A permanent
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gap insane. I did not know that. I was like,
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are you kidding? You can't pay me enough money to
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separate my teeth. You're gonna how are you gonna look
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at somebody and say, you look you will look good
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with a gap? Make it make sense? Make it it's crazy.
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Speaker 4: And I want to kind of piggyback what you said
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earlier is that they're from because I was I'm eyeing
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a lie. I was falling asleep and watching this falling asleep,
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so I'm gonna go back and watch I don't know,
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but from what I but from what I had, from
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what I had looked at one of the things that
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I did not see. And we talked about this a
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couple of seconds ago, which is it was zero accountability.
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It was all about, oh, well, this is what it
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was back then, Like it was okay. Like even if
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the things was okay back then, it is okay to
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say we were wrong.
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Speaker 5: Then.
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Speaker 4: We did not realize how we impacted these women's lives,
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how we impact their emotional wealth exactly.
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Speaker 1: The fact that it was.
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Speaker 4: Like we are manipulating them to believe that this is
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what the beauty standard is. Who knows some of the
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things what came from that shit, and they just thought, oh,
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this is just what it was like that is to
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me that that's what I did not like that some
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of the few of the parts that I saw that
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was shameful to me and to other different allegations.
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Speaker 2: It was just know, like I apologize, like damn, I
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was wrong for that. That was the part that I
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didn't like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the tyrone would have been more empathetic,
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and especially when it came to a couple of the
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women were sexually assaulted by some of the male models
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that they hired for the photo shoot. One male one
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model in season two got drunk and she's alleging that
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she was raped. She doesn't remember having sex or giving
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the man consent to have sex with her, and the producers.
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Instead of the producers you know, like you know, sympathizing
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with her and feeling bad for her, they made her
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call her boyfriend after she felt like she got rid.
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They made her call her boyfriend to tell her boyfriend
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she has sex with another man, and then that led
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to the boyfriend calling her a whore and a cheater
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and pretty much humiliated this poor girl and them. They
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eliminated her because she didn't do well in her photo shoot,
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and she was saying that she was really wanting to
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be a model up until that point where she had
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that sexual encounter with that other male model. And she
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said her life has never been the same since. And
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then the other girl, her name was Kenya, and she
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said that during a photo shoot a man was just
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moaning and touching her inappropriately. On the show, she stopped
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the photo shoot. She said, this man is making me
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feel uncomfortable. And mister J with this fine sex of
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yess Ooh he's so good looking. Oh, he's so good looking.
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Mister J said that that was inappropriate of her to
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stop the photo shoot, and then he told Tyra what happened.
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And Tyra, you know, scolded her for a stop in
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the photo shoot. She said, you don't do that. You
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continue the photo shoot even if you are being inappropriately touched.
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And it's just like you said that in two thousand
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and six, Tyra Banks, we are in twenty twenty six
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right now, that was twenty six years ago. You don't pologize.
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You don't think you should say sorry about that. Get
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this to V. This is another thing I didn't know.
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During one of the seasons there was a contestant who
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said her mom got shot in the head and left
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her paralyzed one of the photo shoots. This is just
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wild to me. One of the photo shoots was about
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people murdered, and her photo shoot was getting shot in
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the head. And she said, of course she felt like
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against her, but because she knew that the producers were
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trying to use that against hers to get her to
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get a reaction on her reaction out of her, to
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cry and to wow out. She didn't say nothing, and
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she held it in. But she's like she told the
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producers that her mama shot and was left paralyzed, and
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her audition tape, and of course the producers, you know,
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tried to traumatize a woman. And that's pretty much what
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this reality check on this documentary was all about.
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Speaker 2: Was that sick. That is sick.
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Speaker 1: They had two photo shoots though with black face, at
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two different seasons, and then at the end of the
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three documentaries, we are so disgusted with Tira, we are
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just not looking at Tyra the same anymore. Do you
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know that Tyra had the nerve to say, this woman
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is sold losing. She said, our journey is not over
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and I can't wait to until you see what we
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have a in store for cycle twenty five. We don't
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want to say newa. We don't want to send new season.
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She's she's, she's hinting that there will be a new cycle.
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Cycle twenty five is going to be a good season.
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We don't want to see America's next time Model. In fact,
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the reason why the show got canceled because everyone just
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got sick of it. We all just got sick of it,
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you know. And this is a nothing thing too. None
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of the winners actually really had a good modeling career.
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No maybe the hand Eva Eva to Carla Yah yah,
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all this all the season three girls have a good
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life in the industry. But out of all the winner
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they did not get a good They did not have
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a modeling contract or a good modeling career, and one
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of the winners said that modeling contracts didn't want to
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really hire them for their work because they were reality
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stars years twenty years ago. Reality stars wasn't really you know,
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praised upon as they are now. So Tyra is handing
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out this title America zacks top Model and they're not
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even on top. They're still at the bottom in real
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life a lot of them never really got to work,
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and that's the reality of it all. Tyra Banks went
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on and she said one of the winners said that
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Tyra told her recently that Tyra knew that the winners
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were not going to be successful models. But she continued
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on and she said, Tyra says she felt bad about that,
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And Danielle said, she told Tyra, fuck you because you
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let these girls with a broken promise. And Tyra, you
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did if you knew that these winners weren't going to
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be top models, why you even continue the show?
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Speaker 2: And to me, that speaks more on character than anything else.
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Speaker 4: It speaks about she was only that's the case in
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the show was more so about her.
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Speaker 2: If she truly believed in she truly believed me.
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Speaker 4: In a fashion model, she cared about the art, she
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cared about the industry, and she recognized that her platform
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is not giving these girls an opportunity. To your point,
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why continue the show or why continue in the way
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that it's not going to give them no opportunity? Then
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you're lying to the audience. Now it's all a big charade.
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Now its just a TV show and it's not a
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true reality. Shit is sick to me, girl, get out
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of my face with that big as head of.
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Speaker 1: Yours, Davide. You know, I applied for America's Sack to
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Model and I got flown out. I got cut, but
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they flew me out the very first season. I don't
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know what season it was, but the very first season
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they let guys on the show. You know, I auditioned,
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I sent in a casting tape, I sent an application.
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They the producers were interested in me, but I got
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flown out to I don't know why they flew me
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out to DC. I met we're casting producers, but it
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was like a hundred of us there. I wasn't the
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only one. There was cameras there, but they cut me.
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But I didn't get to meet any of the judges
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that you saw on TV. They were judges, they were
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pre judges, and I didn't know America's American Idol had
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the same process. You know, remember in an American Idol, they
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you we saw them, see Simon, Paula and Randy they
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those That wasn't the first round for America's Idol. You
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saw two other judges before that for them, and I
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guess that was the same process for an America's snack Time Model.
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Thank God I didn't get on that season. I was
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heartbroken that I didn't get on, But thank god, because
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I would have went nowhere, where would I have went
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if I if I would have got on the show,
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even though.
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Speaker 2: Even probably the date rate no.
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Speaker 1: But even the contestants that were eliminated, they said that
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when they try to go to a modern day agencies
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and they brought those pictures, that they take a lot
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of agencies and accept those photos because they were so
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wild and just so exaggerated. So all those photos was
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for nothing. That that's the crazy part about this whole
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entire documentary.
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Speaker 2: They couldn't use the photos that they took.
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Speaker 1: No, because they found a lot of the photos just wild, exaggerated.
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They just didn't find it any like to use. Like
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a lot of the photos they weren't able to use.
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They had a lot of the contestants say the same
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exach story a lot of them. And if everyone's saying
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the exact same thing, guess what that that has to
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be the truth. That has to be the truth. It's
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just you know, I just I've smoted this fire and
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I thought about American Idol, because in American American Idol.
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We did see the earlier stars the winners become singers,
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but I didn't know the show was still on. And
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if the show's still on, there's winners. I don't know
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who has won in the past ten years. I don't
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hear anybody on from American Idol on the radio, do you.
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I don't American hadual No.
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Speaker 4: I know, Ruby stuttered, Fantagan Carston, Santos figure didn't even win.
21:59
Speaker 2: I don't think did she went.
22:01
Speaker 1: I think yeah she won. Yea jennfer Hodkins, No Jennaths,
22:06
she didn't win. They were in the same season, but
22:08
she didn't win.
22:10
Speaker 2: A white dude one want like a Blake Joe.
22:12
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Remember Jordan's Jordan's Sparks Onondays.
22:19
I mean, she had a good career, but another song,
22:25
sing another song? You can't.
22:33
Speaker 2: I thought so hard to.
22:36
Speaker 1: But I just wonder how many of these realities, so,
22:38
how many of these competition shows that promised that this
22:42
same fortune, how many of those winners actually got the
22:45
fame and fortune, Because up until now, up until this documentary,
22:49
I honestly thought that those American Exact Model winners actually
22:55
had a successful modeling career, and I was really dumbfounded
22:59
and shocked when I found out that none of them
23:02
really had a successful modeling career after winning. I was shocked.
23:06
I was very shocked. And another thing that shocked me is,
23:10
first I said, mister j Manuel so sexy man. I've
23:15
been following him on Instagram for the past maybe ten years.
23:18
His body. Oh, actually, I want to have sex with him.
23:23
I don't think I've ever said that on this podcast.
23:25
I want to have sex with him, I actually do.
23:27
I have never openly said this about anybody ever. He's fine, Yeah, yeah,
23:32
it just something about him, like I just want him
23:34
to do so many inappropriate things with me. Mm hmmm,
23:38
whoa I do whoa? But for Miss J. Now, Miss
23:43
j was a catwalk assassin. He taught these women how
23:45
to walk. He was funny. His face always gave shade.
23:49
The shade always gave face. He was everything you know.
23:52
During this documentary, we learned, yeah, he had a stroke
23:55
in twenty twenty two. He's been living in a hospital bed.
23:58
He can't walk, he had to learn how to talk.
24:02
Speaker 2: That was sad.
24:02
Speaker 4: That part was sad, Yeah, sad to see him, to
24:05
see him like that because he was so vivacious. Yeah,
24:09
you know, to see him like being so depressed because
24:13
he can't walk anymore. Yeah, but you know it also
24:16
gonna remind you, like how you can be up here
24:19
one minute and you never know what can happen to you, Like,
24:22
look look at you talking to someone the girls. Look
24:23
how he talking to him, Just how you're supposed to
24:25
do this, and now like now he can't even walk anymore.
24:28
You never know what life can throw at you. And
24:30
to see him like that is like he still looks
24:32
good though.
24:33
Speaker 1: It's good he goes sixty seven years old. I googled
24:35
his age, sixty seven, head full of hair. I didn't
24:39
see no grays. I'm sure he dies. But you know,
24:41
at that age, a lot of men, especially for men,
24:43
not so for women, but men, their hair starts standing
24:46
and receding. That's that wasn't a wig. It looked like
24:50
I saw the hair coming from the scalp. He had
24:52
a good head full of hair for sixty seven years old.
24:55
And I would have thought he was in his late fifties.
24:58
Never would have thund that that man is in his
24:59
late sixties. God is good. Good, he was good.
25:03
Speaker 2: He looks sad.
25:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was even more sad because we didn't
25:08
know of this condition until the very end of the
25:10
last episode, So he went all three episodes just talking regularly.
25:14
We had no idea that he was actually sitting in
25:16
a wheelchair, that he actually is living in the hotel,
25:19
out of a hotel bed in a rehab facility. Very sad.
25:23
And then a lot of people were upset that Tyrah
25:25
hasn't seen him. His other co stars, Nigel and the
25:29
other Jay has visited him and kept in touch. But
25:32
miss miss Jay said, Tyra hasn't seen him, and I
25:35
don't see why she would. Can I say that? Is
25:38
that me?
25:41
Speaker 2: Why she no?
25:42
Speaker 1: Hear me out? Hear me out. What I got from
25:44
this documentary was the only person that she was actually
25:47
really really friends with was mister j. They had a
25:50
genuine friendship. Okay, everyone else is a coworker to her.
25:54
So if you know how co workers your coat, so
25:58
some people at work, as soon as they leave the job,
26:01
you know, your friendship to terrates just because you don't
26:03
see them anymore. I don't really see Mark.
26:07
Speaker 2: Why long was they working together though?
26:10
Speaker 1: Guess how long you will think? Long? Only four years?
26:13
Only four years? Four years? Only the seasons that they
26:18
were on four years. Yeah, yeah, it was broken up
26:22
in two sections though it was eight cycles because they
26:25
had two seasons per year. But it was only four years.
26:28
It wasn't that long that Jay and mister J and
26:31
Nigel's on the show for so yeah, but she.
26:33
Speaker 4: Still, oh, she owes them, that she owes them at
26:38
least to go visit right, like he was part of
26:40
the show that made it to where it was even
26:43
like he like he was one of the pillars on
26:45
the show.
26:45
Speaker 2: You're telling me she can't owe just to go visit them.
26:48
I'm not saying you need to spend time with them, but.
26:50
Speaker 4: Just to go visit four years to sell four years,
26:53
but that's over twenty years.
26:56
Speaker 1: Well, they weren't friends, they were just coworkers. And on
27:00
top of her, she doesn't even live her nomore she
27:03
lives in Australia, so she doesn't even live here anymore.
27:06
So it's just like I can send a text, I
27:08
could see sending a text or sending an IG message.
27:12
But because I know, I know myself if I was
27:16
cool with some people twenty years ago in high school,
27:18
you know, some people in high school haven't seen since
27:20
high school. I was cool with them, and something's happened,
27:23
but I haven't visited and I don't expect them to
27:25
visit me. I don't know. I don't really see.
27:28
Speaker 4: And that's a little different though we're talking about coworkers
27:30
like they they were together like twenty hours, like a
27:35
lot of times filming four hours, four four years straight, filming,
27:40
like but it's a different type of bond that, like you,
27:43
she could come visit.
27:45
Speaker 2: Oh wow, this happened to him?
27:46
Speaker 1: Did she?
27:46
Speaker 3: Did she?
27:47
Speaker 1: Ever?
27:47
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they said that she called
27:49
and reached out to him or anything.
27:50
Speaker 1: Before they started the documentary, she sent him a text
27:53
and he did like a shady like. He did like
27:55
a shady look in the camera. He's like, she sent
27:58
me a text, you know, saying that she's come visit me,
28:01
But he did like a shady look, like that's never
28:03
gonna happen. But you know, the person that she do
28:06
need to be calling is mister j because they were
28:09
actually cool and Tyra fired the Jays and Nigel and
28:14
they haven't been cool since. And in the documentary, the
28:17
producer said, hey, Tyra, can we talk about why you
28:20
and Jay fell out? And she's like, no, He's not important.
28:28
She's like, we can move along. We can move along, Tira.
28:32
There's another documentary, America's Ex Model Special on E E
28:36
doing their own documentary that comes out in March. I
28:39
will be watching. I don't know if Tyra is participating. Oh,
28:43
let me say this too. A lot of people think
28:45
that this documentary Tyra had a part in. She did not.
28:49
Both Jay's and Nigel put this documentary together. Netflix liked it.
28:54
They pictured to Netflix. Netflix liked it, gathered all the
28:58
girls and reach out to Hira two Part two. Tyra
29:01
had no involvement in this documentary.
29:03
Speaker 2: Oh, I did not know that.
29:04
Speaker 1: She did not have any involvement. It was the two
29:06
Jays and Nigel that put this documentary together. So I
29:10
just want to throw that out there because a lot
29:12
of people think that she did this to make herself
29:15
look good. She didn't have to do this documentary because
29:17
she had no involvement in making it or creating it.
29:20
She was just asked to be a part of it.
29:22
But E networkers doing another documentary on them, and they're
29:25
going to have more contestants, the contestants that weren't on
29:28
this documentary. So I can't wait to see what the
29:30
other contesters have to say about miss Tyra Banks. David,
29:36
do you want to talk about miss Brandy? Nor? Would please?
29:40
What do you want to say about my girl Brandy Moesha.
29:44
Speaker 4: So, I don't know if anybody had an opportunity to.
29:48
I'm sure all you had opportunity. Look at the All
29:50
Star Game twenty twenty six, that was just this Sunday,
29:56
and we saw Brandy who was quote unquot labeled as
30:01
the voice seeing.
30:04
Speaker 2: The star Stingle band.
30:06
Speaker 3: Oh say can you see ba ba? What's so so prowling?
30:23
We had.
30:28
Speaker 2: Time last last clean.
30:34
Speaker 5: Radri bridstar Stam Si hoord Sea.
30:52
Speaker 2: We watched were Suck, Shame and Shame.
31:00
Speaker 3: And the rock Girts, Red Clad, the Bonsa Stay and
31:13
gay Girl crou the La bas There holl Sad that
31:31
sun spe speak of Bana w Hor the Free and
31:50
the Home up the.
31:58
Speaker 4: D thank you And let me just tell you something
32:03
right now. I was so furious of that goddamn song.
32:08
First of all, she did you get a chance to
32:10
look at it? I watched she had four people with her,
32:15
I think more other All she was doing was ad living. Yeah,
32:22
they were singing. She they was singing, Oh can.
32:31
Speaker 1: They singing. I hated it. It was one of the worst.
32:34
Speaker 4: I cannot believe that her being a voice that was
32:37
she gave. She gave the most lackluster and she literally solid.
32:41
She's got fing to smoking some cigarettes.
32:43
Speaker 1: Maybe she always sounded like that, but it really it
32:50
was at they had an auto tune over her voice.
32:52
I can tell it wasn't. It was very It was
32:54
a bad autotune that they have over. But you ever harmonized,
32:58
You and I harmonized a lot together. But in music
33:00
class I forgot what it's called. But I would start,
33:03
let's do row row row your boat. So I would
33:05
start singing, roll row row your boat gently down the stream.
33:09
Then you'll start and then you'll start as no, you'll
33:13
start the song over. So okay, I'll roll row roll
33:17
your boat and then you'll say, ready the street. That's
33:27
what she was doing. That's what she was doing. That's
33:29
what she was.
33:33
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
33:37
Speaker 1: I thought she was doing that, like what are we doing?
33:41
Speaker 2: Like like sing it. But here's what I'm disappointed is
33:45
because I'm.
33:45
Speaker 1: A Brandy fan.
33:46
Speaker 4: Brandy I know, and like Brandy hasn't even talked about
33:50
like her voice has changed over the years and she
33:53
can't sing some of the way that she used to,
33:54
like it was the one like like it was the
33:57
one documentary she was mentioned in like it's just very real,
33:59
and I get yeah, but Brandon, you can see the
34:01
fucking star single brand. You did not need four folks,
34:05
you know, pulled out of the audience to help you
34:08
sing this shit.
34:09
Speaker 2: And she just was ad libbing. And then the very end,
34:12
it was no climax. It just was not good. I
34:15
swear to god, I could have sewn that.
34:16
Speaker 1: I could have done it.
34:18
Speaker 4: I could have had somebody behind me and did that ship.
34:21
It was very, very, very very lackluster. I'm so disappointed.
34:25
I don't they can't go on to waste some one.
34:26
I didn't like that brand issue, but.
34:29
Speaker 1: Damn, you know what the issue is. Every person who
34:32
gets asked to sing the Star Spangled banner, they want
34:37
to Whitney Houston at, they want to Marvin Gayet, you know,
34:40
they want to make it their own rendition because they
34:43
wanted to be labeled as iconic. We saw Fergie do
34:47
it sh flop. Now Fergie's oh why it was as
34:52
bad as it was not as bad as it was
34:54
not as bad as motherfucker Burdos.
34:57
Speaker 2: It wasn't good. It wasn't bad as Vermons.
35:00
Speaker 1: Was it not Chaka Khan? It wasn't Chaka Khan. Who
35:02
did one right?
35:04
Speaker 3: Oh?
35:04
Speaker 1: Who was recently? I can't even think. But we saw
35:06
so many artists who try to do their best rendition
35:11
of the song and it just flops. And let's just
35:14
stick to this the regular way a song. We don't
35:17
have to remix it. You can't remix a song now,
35:20
the way that Whitney Houston did it Chief Kiss, the
35:23
way that Marvin Gay did it even better. But no,
35:29
I don't think she's ever did her own dition they did.
35:32
Did this start well?
35:33
Speaker 2: She did well, she did her own version. She sung,
35:36
She sung good, good, That's what I'm saying. She sung.
35:38
Speaker 1: Oh well, when I say Marvin Gay and Whitney Houston,
35:41
they sung it to where it didn't sound like you know,
35:44
oh say, can you see it didn't sound like that?
35:48
They made it sound like a whole completely different song.
35:51
Speaker 3: But we.
35:53
Speaker 1: He did his own little rendition. I remember, if you
35:56
get a chance, look at John Legend. John Legend did
35:58
his own way, and he was actually really good. But
36:00
she did not.
36:01
Speaker 4: We asked for Brandy to sing the Stars finger Brandy.
36:03
We didn't see Brandy and crew. We didn't say Brandy
36:06
and the girls. We didn say Brandy and the cists.
36:10
We said Brandy sing the star spinger Brando, Like, I
36:13
don't get not to say that the girls on the
36:15
back because they did it. But we just wanted to
36:17
hear Brandy. And all she did was ad lib the
36:20
motherfucking song. She added the whole damn thing.
36:23
Speaker 1: Even if she didn't. But even if she did sing it,
36:25
I don't think of what I came out good because
36:27
the flow this was not a good flow for that song. Whoever,
36:31
and when these people rehearse, and they rehearse in front
36:35
of their managers and the directors and the producers, why
36:39
is the one saying this isn't it?
36:40
Speaker 5: Bill?
36:41
Speaker 1: So mu should have told Brandy her daughter, who is
36:43
twenty four years old. It's just aid, my, this isn't it, honey,
36:47
This isn't it. This sing in the regular way as
36:49
if you were at war in eighteen whatever, what year
36:53
is it, eighteen eighty six, whatever? Whatever?
36:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever ye doing, don't don't Brandy?
36:59
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, oh Brandy, you're so and it's so iconic
37:05
all right, But that was not an iconic moment. It
37:09
wasn't But you know, I don't think it will go
37:10
down in the history of worst artists who performed the song.
37:15
It wasn't that bad. It just it was bad. But
37:18
I wouldn't say it was that bad. It was bad.
37:20
Speaker 2: I just wanted her to sing the damn song. I
37:22
just was listening to her, yelling.
37:24
Speaker 1: Like, just sing stop this scene.
37:27
Speaker 4: I wanted to cut off the other girls radio microphone
37:29
and just let her sing.
37:31
Speaker 2: Brandy and them, That's what it was. It was not
37:33
Brandy doing the stars thing of brand.
37:35
Speaker 1: So we wanted to work. We want to see we
37:40
want to see Brandy and not Moesha all right, Mosha,
37:43
Nissi and Kim. We wanted this Brandy, Brandy and the principle. David,
37:51
I have a question for you. Would you ever do
37:54
an OnlyFans page with a cousin, A cousin like my
38:00
personal root cousin, what like in the scene together or
38:07
they were recording in a scene You're doing only fans
38:11
content together own money?
38:15
Speaker 2: Hell no, I don't give a fuck. No, Wait, how
38:18
many cousins you're talking about?
38:20
Speaker 1: This one other cousin though I'm saying like one like
38:23
the first cousin, your second cousin, your third cousin, a
38:26
fourth cousin. Well, let me explain. I actually should have
38:29
sent you and told you about the story. But as
38:33
I was preparing for this show, I saw it on
38:36
my timeline and I said, oh, I have to investigate.
38:39
So there's two new reality stars on this show called
38:44
vander Pump Rules. Okay, I just sent you photos of
38:47
the two men. There's two reality stars on vander Pump Rules,
38:50
and it got it got out it that these two
38:53
are cousins and they do only fans content together. Okay,
38:58
they get paid good, though they get paid good. They've
39:01
got six they got sixty thousand followers, and it's they
39:05
charged to ninety nine a month, which equals one hundred
39:08
and eighty thousand dollars a month, allegedly. I googled that.
39:11
I don't know if that's actual factual, but so they're
39:15
not real cousins. They're cousins by marriage. So they're not
39:18
blood cousins, but they're cousins by marriage, and I guess
39:22
that they're I don't watch finnipup rules. I don't know
39:24
anything about a pump and a Vanda Pump. But you know,
39:27
the story just stuck out to me because I guess
39:29
that their cast think it was weird of them to
39:32
do that together. And they have sex with each other,
39:36
so I'm so. One of my followers informed me that
39:39
they only rubbed down each other. They probably show each
39:42
other like I think they show their penises, their erect
39:45
penises together on the camera and then I think one
39:48
helps another one with a penis pump. But that's all.
39:50
That's all my followers told me that they do. So
39:53
no sex, just touching and rubbing in little baby oil,
39:56
no diddy, that's what I retched, just to not blood related.
40:01
Speaker 2: I don't see how love it.
40:03
Speaker 1: I don't see nothing wrong with it.
40:05
Speaker 5: Now.
40:05
Speaker 1: These two are straight men and they were gay baiting,
40:08
and I guess that the Vander Pump cast is angry
40:11
that they do that because it's gay baiting. Hey, if
40:15
you want to make your money, I don't see nothing.
40:18
Gays are thirsty. Gays are always going to be interested
40:21
in straight men fooling around with other straight men, making money.
40:25
Cousin y'all having blood cousins, y'all cousins, marriage, No making money.
40:32
And then I heard too that Bravo. This is all.
40:36
Let this is all what I hear on the streets.
40:38
Bravo wants them to deactivate their only Fans page or
40:42
they can't be on the show no more. I would
40:45
not be for what Bravo. Let these people make their money.
40:48
It's not affecting you.
40:52
Speaker 2: More or only fans man more.
40:54
Speaker 1: This is their first season, so I don't know how
40:56
much these people. First of all, I have interput Rules
40:59
is about all about waiters and bartenders. I don't know
41:02
how the show been on the air for twelve years.
41:05
They might as well just give a show to Applebee's
41:06
and Chili's. I don't know why people are interested in
41:08
watching people serve food and give out drinks. I don't
41:11
know how. Yeah, yeah, that's the problem. And that's the
41:15
problem too. Even though I did, folks, I did audition
41:18
for the show. I auditioned for a last year they
41:20
revamped the series. I said, let me just put my
41:22
little input in it. I didn't get not I know
41:25
I got it. I didn't get an email, a phone call, nothing.
41:29
But I don't see the problem people on Fanta rules.
41:31
Let these cousins fuck each other they want to, and
41:34
Bravo what these people get their money. You know, gay baiting,
41:37
gay bait content is really popular. And if I was
41:40
just all the straight for all the two straight men
41:43
who are listening to this podcast.
41:45
Speaker 4: And if you have your friend recorded money and record
41:50
it to me and make sure you put a straight
41:53
guy play around. A straight guy likes to have fun.
41:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, jays love it.
42:02
Speaker 4: I hate when people be like gay baiting. Is gay
42:04
baiting that No, it's if people want to watch it,
42:06
then watch it. Yeah, we're not baiting because I'm not
42:09
because baiting would be like, hey, I am a gay man,
42:12
come over here now and I beat you up for something.
42:14
But I'm giving you an opportunity to see me.
42:18
Speaker 1: Right right, you know. The only thing I do about
42:21
dam the only thing I am gonna ask for. The
42:24
Jason Cohen guy, his eyebrows are this ugly. They're two
42:27
bushie They're not cute. Sometimes wrong with his eyebrows. I
42:29
just sent you a picture. I just send you a
42:31
picture of Jason Cohen. It's a guy on the right.
42:33
His eyebrows are just looking to me, like, what's going
42:36
on out the eyebrows are you? The eyebrows aren't saying that.
42:41
The eyebrows are saying that he is gay and he
42:43
likes to fuck his cousin. That's what the eyebrows are giving.
42:45
I'm gay and I like to fuck my cousin. He
42:48
got fuck cousin eyebrows. He got fuck cousin eyebrows.
42:52
Speaker 2: Now you got cousin eyebrows.
42:53
Speaker 1: I've never heard cousin eyebrows. Eyebrows with these kind of eyebrows,
42:59
I'm gonna say, fuck cousin eyebrows. He got fuck f
43:04
e B fuck no wait f c B FU. Cousin
43:11
eyebrows is cousin eyebrows.
43:15
Speaker 4: So of course when you edit, when you edit this,
43:16
you have you gonna have his picture popping up every
43:18
few seconds, zooming into the eyebrows.
43:21
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna do this. Yeah, I can't wait.
43:25
I can't wait till edit it. I can't wait. And
43:27
Jason Cohen, I hope you look and I hope he shaved.
43:30
Just they just look like they're just like either uh,
43:33
makeup on or they just look really unnatural. And I
43:36
don't know, I don't know, but yeah, they're just not cure.
43:40
But continue making your gay baiting content and yeah, well.
43:45
Speaker 2: Your money, that's our show.
43:47
Speaker 1: Everybody what a good show that went by really quick,
43:51
just like your sex life really quick. So what a
43:53
good show?
43:54
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
43:55
Speaker 1: Anything you want to say before we close out?
43:58
Speaker 4: No, no, I know what you're gonna Say're gonna try
44:01
to cut me off anyway, you bastard never never you
44:04
are guys.
44:06
Speaker 1: I have an idea.
44:07
Speaker 2: How about and then do you do? You cut me off?
44:10
I know I do.
44:12
Speaker 1: No, that's not what I do. This is what I
44:14
will do.
44:14
Speaker 2: How will you do it?
44:15
Speaker 1: Get ready? Look, let me ask you the question. Anything
44:19
anything you want to add before we end the show?
44:21
Speaker 3: No?
44:22
Speaker 1: Good, Well that's how show everybody, and we will talk
44:26
to you next Friday. Have a good week, everybody.
44:29
Speaker 2: Bye, bye see I you're gonna do that,