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640 - A neon green tone machine, Brian gets a new amp, and Josh Scott sells pedals! · Chasing Tone - Guitar Podcast About Gear, Effects, Amps and Tone

0:06
Brian: Hey there! Oh wait, we're recording.
0:09
Brian: We are recording.
0:10
Brian: It is going.
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Brian: Live and in session.
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Blake: In section, session, session, session.
0:16
Brian: I wish I had a good radio voice.
0:18
Brian: I've always wanted a good radio voice.
0:20
Blake: Welcome to the Chasing Tone Podcast.
0:23
Richard: You're the king of radio voices for this podcast.
0:27
Blake: I wish I could maintain like that all day.
0:29
Blake: That would be really cool, but it's kind of hard to do.
0:32
Brian: No, there's supplements that can help.
0:36
Brian: I'm Alvin, I'm Simon, and I'm Theodore.
0:38
Brian: Hey, they sold a lot of records.
0:40
Brian: That is true.
0:41
Brian: Mm-hmm.
0:43
Brian: Interestingly.
0:44
Brian: Rhinestone Chipmunk, that's one of my favorite ones.
0:46
Richard: Rhinestone! Interestingly, as well.
0:50
Richard: So did the Archies, a completely made-up band, right?
0:55
Richard: They're completely made up.
0:56
Richard: Well, yeah, they were a cartoon band made up.
1:00
Richard: The Archies.
1:01
Brian: You're saying Archies.
1:03
Brian: I was like, what's an Archie's?
1:05
Richard: Archies.
1:07
Richard: Not all cheese.
1:08
Richard: The Archies.
1:09
Richard: All cheese.
1:09
Richard: Now cheese.
1:10
Blake: Yeah.
1:11
Richard: Wait, did they actually have music you could hear?
1:14
Richard: Oh, god, yeah.
1:15
Richard: Uh, sugar sugar.
1:16
Richard: That was a massive hit by the Archies, and it's just a comic like video of nobody because, well, Archie and Jughead.
1:24
Richard: You must know this.
1:25
Richard: This is musical easy.
1:26
Brian: I didn't know that was.
1:28
Blake: I knew they were a band, but I only read them in the old comics.
1:30
Blake: I didn't know they actually like made songs that you could hear.
1:34
Brian: Yeah, I didn't know there was music.
1:35
Brian: Yeah.
1:36
Richard: What one of the greatest sort of songs of the 60s, I think it was.
1:41
Richard: Check that.
1:42
Richard: The Archies.
1:43
Richard: Yeah, it was actually a guy called Ron Dante who sang it, apparently.
1:47
Richard: But yeah, it's uh uh a song and a ban 1968.
1:52
Richard: Yes, there we go.
1:53
Blake: Look at that.
1:53
Blake: Look at that.
1:54
Blake: There it is.
1:55
Blake: See?
1:56
Richard: No, you mustn't do that.
1:57
Richard: You did that last week.
1:58
Richard: Stop it.
1:59
Richard: Stop it.
2:02
Richard: Brian will get dead.
2:04
Richard: Yeah.
2:04
Blake: Okay, you're not supposed to do that.
2:06
Blake: I forgot they were not on Patreon.
2:07
Blake: We can't do that not on Patreon.
2:08
Blake: Uh-oh.
2:09
Blake: We're in trouble with the Archies now.
2:11
Richard: We're in trouble with the Archies and uh Professor Bill Gates Wampler over there.
2:18
Richard: How's the uh how's the old empire there, Brian?
2:22
Brian: I don't know whether whether that's like a put down or can't go both ways.
2:28
Richard: No, no, no.
2:31
Richard: I'm a man of a certain age that respects the work of Microsoft in the 1980s and 90s.
2:36
Brian: Yeah.
2:37
Brian: I will say I don't think I'm anything like Bill Gates in multiples of ways.
2:42
Richard: Well, except you are now a software guru.
2:46
Richard: Um we should just very quickly round this out.
2:48
Richard: Pedal Spice is now available as a single transaction, right?
2:52
Richard: That's your your new thing.
2:53
Richard: So no more subscriptions, buy it once, own it forever.
2:58
Richard: Is that it?
2:59
Richard: And ever.
3:00
Richard: That's it.
3:00
Richard: Ever.
3:01
Richard: Amazing.
3:02
Richard: So that's why I called you Bill Gates, because you're a software magnate.
3:06
Brian: Oh, okay.
3:06
Brian: Yeah, let's let's think of someone that isn't tied to other nefarious people, maybe.
3:11
Blake: I mean, I don't think he really is.
3:13
Blake: I don't think there's anyone of that level that's not tied to nefarious people.
3:17
Richard: How about uh the Dell family?
3:20
Richard: No, we won't go there.
3:21
Richard: No, that's not it.
3:23
Richard: Yep.
3:23
Richard: Uh how about the Ellisons?
3:24
Richard: Oh no, look what I've done.
3:27
Richard: Yeah.
3:27
Richard: Uh I tell you who I tell you who the software person you should be tied to who is the greatest of all time, Jeff Minter.
3:34
Richard: Jeff Minter was a hippie programmer on the Commodore 64, famous for his Revenge of the Mutant Camels game, Bri.
3:43
Richard: I'm sure you're a fan of that.
3:45
Richard: Brilliant stuff.
3:46
Richard: I've never heard of it.
3:47
Richard: He was amazing.
3:48
Blake: So Jeff Minter is an English video game designer and programmer who often goes by the nickname Yak.
3:55
Richard: Yep, he does.
3:56
Richard: He created something called the Tripotron, which was a very early device to synchronize music to like computer graphic light shows.
4:06
Richard: So Tripotron.
4:08
Richard: Yeah, I mean, quite uh quite a evocative name.
4:11
Blake: I'm looking.
4:12
Blake: Oh, nope.
4:13
Blake: We got nefarious activity here.
4:15
Blake: Oh?
4:16
Blake: Of course.
4:16
Blake: He owns sheep.
4:18
Blake: I'm he's he's got something called psychedelia.
4:23
Richard: Oh, okay.
4:25
Richard: All right.
4:26
Blake: No, I don't actually see anything nefarious.
4:28
Blake: Maybe he's alright.
4:29
Richard: He he he's the best of them all.
4:30
Richard: I'll tell you an uh, I mean, I could talk about wonderful computer game programmers first.
4:34
Brian: Yeah, that's yeah.
4:35
Richard: But I'll tell you who.
4:42
Richard: I'll tell you one that like surprises me.
4:45
Richard: All right.
4:45
Richard: Um kill me.
4:48
Richard: Go ahead.
4:48
Richard: I think go ahead.
4:50
Blake: Winter is the best of shit.
4:52
Blake: The meeting camels and ma'am!
4:58
Richard: So there is a guy uh called um Demis Hasibis, who is uh one of the founders of I like his work on Knight Rider.
5:12
Richard: He is one of the founders of AI, Bri, as in the the modern kind of LLM technologies.
5:19
Richard: Uh he worked for um Google Deep Mind, but he was also part of Bullfrog Games who came out with Populus and Black and White back in the 90s.
5:31
Richard: And uh I knew him from that time, like every game he wrote was brilliant, and then fast forward 30 years, one day I'm reading the news, it's like Demis Hasabis.
5:41
Richard: I'm like, I recognize that name, and he's the boss of Google Deep Mind, which they know a thing or two there, Brian.
5:47
Brian: You're like, I smoke pot with his brother once.
5:49
Richard: No, what that's a terrible thing to say about me.
5:54
Richard: Oh, I'm I'm more multidimensional than you give me.
5:58
Richard: I'm just I'm just teasing.
6:00
Blake: If you're multi-dimensional because Oh, like sativa and indica?
6:06
Blake: That's okay.
6:07
Blake: There you go.
6:08
Richard: Uh I'm gonna introduce you both to my two buddies.
6:11
Richard: Screw you and screw you two.
6:14
Richard: Uh but if we're talking multi-dimensional, well, even even more relevant.
6:20
Richard: If we're talking multidimensional, how far has everyone got through Jay Stratton's book Out of the Shadows?
6:26
Brian: Man, I haven't had a chance to read it, but I've seen some videos from a lot of talks that he's got.
6:32
Brian: He's been on everything.
6:33
Richard: I'm on like I mean, I I've basically finished it.
6:36
Richard: I'm on like chapter 61 or something.
6:38
Richard: It's a long book, right?
6:40
Richard: I'm gonna tell you the the craziest thing I heard in it, though.
6:47
Brian: Should we should we tell people who we're talking about, by the way?
6:50
Richard: No, I want it a mystery.
6:51
Richard: We Jay Stratton, who is the author of the book uh Out of the Shadows.
6:57
Richard: Um he is he is picking up a lot of fame recently because he's probably the most credible person to come forward with UFO news, and he's got a lot.
7:08
Richard: But I'm not gonna like this isn't the most weird thing in the book.
7:13
Richard: Okay.
7:13
Richard: So there is other weird shit that happens, like lots of it.
7:16
Richard: Um at one point he has glowing orbs follow him into his living room, dance around him and his family, and change colour when he calls out different words, and then they fly out of the window into the garden, turn into a golden giant orb, and an alien steps out.
7:38
Richard: A non-human intelligence steps out of a portal in that.
7:43
Richard: That's quite the revelation.
7:46
Richard: That's a lot.
7:46
Richard: That's not I saw a weather balloon.
7:50
Richard: Okay?
7:51
Brian: That well and you gotta have to keep in mind who is saying this too.
7:55
Brian: It's not like it's Bob from Oklahoma.
7:58
Brian: It's not coyote.
8:00
Blake: I saw an orb.
8:01
Blake: I did see an orb.
8:04
Richard: I mean, I've been asking the orbs to visit me ever since like hearing this, because I'm like, well, look, you obviously can travel interdimensionally, you can probably hear me.
8:13
Richard: Come visit me, alien brethren.
8:16
Richard: Bring me your phone.
8:17
Brian: I just realized I said Bob from Oklahoma like in a derogatory way.
8:21
Brian: I don't mean it that way because that's Robert Keeley's actually from Oklahoma, I think.
8:26
Brian: So uh I don't mean it that way.
8:29
Brian: It's just a joke.
8:29
Brian: You could use Indiana if you want, that's fine.
8:32
Richard: Okay.
8:32
Richard: So uh yeah, as if it was like Robert Keeley from Indiana, right?
8:37
Brian: Right, exactly.
8:38
Richard: Exactly.
8:39
Brian: Yeah, uh no, it's it's yeah, I mean yeah, there's some crazy stuff going on that uh it's kind of scary.
8:47
Richard: Uh honestly, that there's only four conclusions, and I've shared them with you.
8:51
Richard: I'm not gonna share them over here that I came to, but none of them make any sense.
8:55
Richard: I none none of this I we're now living in a dream, Brian.
9:00
Richard: A dream?
9:01
Richard: A nightmare.
9:03
Brian: A terrible nightmare.
9:04
Brian: May maybe this is just the black hole that has swallowed us, you know, 15 years ago.
9:10
Brian: Time slowing down.
9:12
Brian: You know?
9:12
Richard: No, it's speeding up, Brian.
9:14
Richard: Speeding up, I feel like I was discussing this with my friend earlier.
9:18
Richard: 1986 appears to be the longest year of my life.
9:22
Richard: Like, I can remember so much about 1986, and it's the one year I kept a diary as well.
9:27
Richard: And I don't know whether that has made it seem longer.
9:31
Richard: Seems like that might be related.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: Dear Diary, this is Richard again.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: I am still looking at David Gilmore's strat with love.
9:40
Richard: Okay, I mean, it's worse than that, Bri.
9:44
Richard: At one point in this diary, I talk about the new yo-yo craze sweeping the school and how I was jealous I didn't have a yo-yo.
9:52
SPEAKER_02: Dear Diary, do you think David Gilmore plays with yo-yos as well?
9:58
Richard: I mean, it's scarily accurate, Bri.
10:01
Richard: Uh, but it does really feel like uh the longest year of my childhood.
10:08
Richard: Uh, but I no longer believe in anything because I've read uh or heard Jay Stratton's book, so it's all an illusion.
10:16
Brian: An illusion, illusion, I mean Yeah, I think uh I think things are gonna change with a lot of paradigms, you know.
10:25
Brian: I don't think I don't think a lot of people will take kindly to it.
10:29
Brian: Okay.
10:30
Brian: Alright.
10:31
Brian: But that's my professional opinion.
10:34
Brian: Right.
10:35
Brian: I mean, who wouldn't want to listen to a guy that basically builds guitar pedals for a living?
10:39
Brian: That guy owns everything.
10:41
Blake: You know in that barn in Indiana.
10:45
Blake: Right.
10:45
Blake: That's kind of like Bob from Oklahoma, isn't it?
10:48
Brian: Pretty much, yeah, yeah.
10:49
Brian: Brian from Indiana, Bob from Oklahoma, same thing.
10:52
Blake: Like from Portland.
10:54
Blake: Yeah.
10:54
Blake: Uh-huh.
10:56
Blake: Starting to see You know, it's kind of funny.
10:58
Blake: Everyone is just uh whatever their name is from somewhere.
11:02
Blake: That is true.
11:03
Blake: Oh, this guy from North Dakota.
11:04
Blake: I'm like, what I mean, you're from Kansas.
11:08
Blake: I mean, what difference does it make?
11:09
Blake: Like you're everyone's from somewhere.
11:11
Blake: Like exactly.
11:12
Richard: Yeah.
11:14
Richard: It's a way of categorizing another dimension.
11:18
Brian: He is.
11:19
Brian: He's not even from a real country.
11:22
Richard: Oh, you you've been following those Twitter accounts again, haven't you?
11:26
Richard: Man, your country folk really like to tell our country folk how terrible our country is.
11:33
Richard: And let me just tell you something.
11:34
Richard: You can say all you want about our food, but you're the ones with chicken in a can, not us.
11:39
Richard: That's all I'm saying.
11:42
Richard: You make a valid point.
11:45
Richard: Have either of you ever encountered a chicken in a can?
11:48
Brian: I've never put a chicken in a toilet before.
11:50
Richard: No.
11:53
Blake: I kind of forget that chicken in a can is a thing until I'm just like accidentally in that aisle at the grocery store, and I'm like, that's weird.
12:02
Blake: You must buy one.
12:03
Blake: You must buy one.
12:04
Blake: I don't want to.
12:05
Brian: This is an expensive.
12:06
Brian: You've never had chicken in a can before?
12:08
Brian: Not that I can remember.
12:09
Brian: No.
12:10
Brian: Well, sounds like somebody needs to go backpacking more often for a few days.
12:14
Blake: I've had sardines.
12:16
Blake: That's pretty good.
12:17
Brian: Oh, there you go.
12:17
Brian: Same idea.
12:18
Brian: Yeah, yeah.
12:18
Blake: Same idea.
12:19
Blake: That just seems less weird to me for some reason.
12:21
Blake: I don't know why.
12:21
Blake: Maybe it's the same amount of weird.
12:23
Brian: Fit fish in a can, totally different than chicken in a can.
12:26
Brian: Got it.
12:27
Blake: Maybe it's because like the fish are like I'm used to them being salty.
12:31
Blake: It's like normal.
12:32
Blake: I don't know.
12:32
Richard: Right.
12:33
Richard: If you opened up a can and a whole tuna slipped out, you would be concerned.
12:37
Richard: Because one, your can would be three foot long minimum.
12:41
Richard: And two, how did they fit the tuner in there?
12:44
Richard: How'd they get it in there?
12:45
Richard: It's still alive.
12:47
Richard: Oh, this is now verging on animal cruelty.
12:50
Richard: I don't do animal cruelty.
12:51
Richard: It's not animal cruelty.
12:52
Richard: It didn't actually happen.
12:53
Richard: Uh okay.
12:54
Richard: Everyone's getting married this week.
12:56
Richard: Have you noticed that?
12:57
Richard: Uh Tom Quayle just got married.
12:59
Richard: Congratulations, Tommy.
13:00
Richard: Congrats, Tom.
13:01
Richard: Congrats.
13:02
Richard: Andy Wood just got married.
13:03
Richard: Congratulations, Andy Wood, that's right.
13:04
Richard: Andy and Gelsey.
13:06
Richard: So um I've been married this week.
13:09
Brian: That that is uh that is everyone, so I have to right.
13:13
Richard: You better not have married wife number 17.
13:15
Richard: That's all I no, no.
13:18
Brian: This one seems to stick around more often for some reason.
13:21
Richard: Okay, more often.
13:22
Richard: So sometimes she does split.
13:23
Richard: Sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:26
Richard: Uh, so that's happening.
13:28
Richard: Uh, Josh is selling all his pedals on reverb.
13:30
Richard: Um I did see that.
13:31
Richard: I did sign up for that.
13:32
Blake: He's not selling all of his pedals.
13:34
Richard: Look, I can't make a clickbait title for this episode if I don't say that Josh is selling all of his pedals and maybe he is leaving the pedal business altogether.
13:44
Richard: Because that's a clickbait title.
13:46
Richard: Maybe does a lot of heavy lifting there, because maybe he isn't.
13:50
Richard: That is true.
13:51
Blake: Uh yeah, that's true.
13:52
Blake: I guess you didn't say that he was.
13:54
Richard: I said maybe he is.
13:55
Richard: It's a question, it's a clickbait.
13:57
Richard: I am the clickbaiter.
13:59
Richard: Uh yeah.
14:00
Richard: Something ending in the master of it.
14:02
Richard: Yeah, I am the master of the clickbait.
14:04
Richard: Master of clickbaiting.
14:05
Brian: Master clickbaiting.
14:06
Brian: Some might say that you're the you know, really good at it.
14:11
Brian: Brian Chicken.
14:12
Brian: I'm the Bill Dance.
14:15
Richard: Uh you don't know who Bill Dance is, do you, Richard?
14:20
Richard: No.
14:20
Richard: Well, for a start, I'd call him Bill Dance.
14:23
Richard: Does that work?
14:24
Richard: Dance?
14:25
Richard: Dance.
14:25
Richard: We don't say dance, we say dance.
14:27
Brian: What do you guys with your vowels and stuff?
14:30
Brian: How dance you gotta know Bill Dance?
14:32
Richard: Speak it differently to people in your face.
14:34
Richard: Yeah, it's a fishing guy, right?
14:35
Richard: Yeah, yeah, it's a fishing guy.
14:36
Richard: Yeah, fishing guy.
14:37
Brian: Yeah.
14:38
Blake: Oh, you mean Bob Mills?
14:39
Brian: Bill Dance Outdoors.
14:40
Brian: Yep.
14:41
Blake: Okay.
14:42
Blake: It's a timely reference from the 1980s, I think.
14:45
Blake: Was he caught doing something?
14:47
Blake: Uh fishing.
14:48
Blake: Yeah.
14:51
Richard: Uh lots of fishing.
14:53
Richard: Excellent.
14:54
Brian: Anyways, who else got married besides besides Tom and Andy?
14:58
Richard: Well, that's two guitarists.
14:59
Richard: Uh, my daughter got married two months ago, but we only just got all the photos the other day, so that was nice.
15:05
Richard: Um that's three out of the world.
15:07
Brian: What's it nine billion people in the world?
15:09
Brian: So that's three.
15:10
Richard: We got three?
15:11
Richard: Do I have to go for the other eight billion and nine?
15:14
Richard: You said everyone was getting married.
15:16
Richard: You said everyone, nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand or listen.
15:23
Blake: Huge claims require huge evidence.
15:25
Blake: So we gotta have to have you list.
15:27
Blake: You said everyone, I want to see the list.
15:30
Brian: Well just go ahead and make your list.
15:32
Brian: We'll wait.
15:33
Richard: Yeah, go ahead.
15:34
Richard: Okay, all right.
15:35
Richard: I feel I've been ganged up here.
15:37
Richard: I might change my name by deed poll to Hugh Jevidence, and then I win by default.
15:43
Richard: How about that?
15:43
Richard: Huge evidence.
15:45
Richard: Huge evidence.
15:46
Blake: Name's Jevidence, huge evidence.
15:49
Blake: You got it.
15:50
Richard: Uh what else?
15:51
Richard: Sounds like a guy from the insurance industry.
15:53
Richard: Uh don't don't knock the insurance industry.
15:55
Richard: It's been good to me.
15:57
Richard: Um do you guys have pet insurance, by the way?
16:01
Brian: Pet insurance?
16:02
Brian: I'd have to have a pet.
16:04
Brian: That sounds like something you made up.
16:06
Brian: So I'd like to insure my dog, please.
16:09
Richard: I only discovered this recently.
16:11
Richard: Um, because I've been doing a separate podcast about the world of insurance.
16:15
Richard: And in the US, the pet insurance market is very immature.
16:20
Richard: Over here, it's hugely mature.
16:22
Richard: We pay money every month for our dogs.
16:25
Brian: Wait, we pay money for what though?
16:26
Richard: You pay money for your dog.
16:28
Richard: What?
16:28
Richard: What do you what are you talking about?
16:29
Richard: Like what's what's what happens if you're okay.
16:32
Richard: Here's the risk: your dog needs to have surgery, it's gonna cost you three thousand dollars.
16:36
Richard: What do you do?
16:37
Richard: Yeah, you take him out to the business.
16:40
Richard: This this is exactly the difference between your country and mine, right?
16:45
Richard: Because uh there is a concept of of the um economic euthanasia, as they call it, and it's very much more prevalent.
16:55
Richard: And I'm sort of with you.
16:56
Richard: I've always sort of said to Anna, listen, if we get a dog and within the first year of its life, that dog needs 10 grand's worth of treatment.
17:04
Richard: I know I can get a shotgun for 500 pounds.
17:06
Richard: That's all I'm saying.
17:08
Blake: Listen, you just you say, look, we're gonna watch a movie tonight, it's called Old Gelly.
17:13
unknown: Right.
17:14
Brian: You just opened a door and then lock it behind them.
17:18
Richard: Over here, we're known as a nation of animal lovers.
17:20
Richard: So what we do instead is Oh, I love animals, they're tasty.
17:24
Richard: Pretty much what you do with your personal health.
17:26
Richard: Delicious.
17:27
Richard: We pay an insurance premium every month for our dog so that if he needs an operation, then you claim it on the insurance.
17:37
Brian: I mean, I guess that's one way to pay extra money.
17:40
Brian: Why not?
17:41
Brian: If you're gonna do that, why not buy Petal Spice from uh Petalspice.com if you're gonna throw away money.
17:47
Richard: I mean, firstly, Bright, if you're gonna market a product, I suggest that the phrase, if you're gonna throw away money anyway, I mean that's not the strongest marketing.
17:59
Brian: That's a good pitch.
18:00
Brian: I mean, if you got money to just throw away, you might as well buy some circuit simulation software.
18:05
Richard: You would look really weird dragging your MacBook around the park every morning, taking it for a walk.
18:11
Richard: It's not the same.
18:12
Richard: Says you.
18:12
Richard: Says you! It's just not the same, Brian.
18:15
Brian: I've got a strap and a little desk little thing that goes around my neck.
18:19
Brian: Walk around the laptop.
18:21
Richard: I was worried about where that was going.
18:23
Richard: I've got a little furry costume and I dress up like a dog.
18:26
Richard: Uh only at weekends.
18:29
Brian: No, I I mean I get it, so no, I don't think I've ever considered buying insurance from animal.
18:35
Brian: And it's not common in America.
18:37
Richard: I do have a dog, though, that's what I'm saying.
18:39
Brian: I do have a dog that we've spent more money on than I ever thought I was gonna spend on an animal.
18:44
Brian: But that's because it's my mom's.
18:46
Brian: Yeah, okay.
18:46
Brian: And we have to take it.
18:47
Brian: Are we talking thousands or tens of thousands?
18:52
Brian: Dog insurance.
18:53
Brian: Would have sold it.
18:54
Brian: It's ridiculous, and it frustrates me every time I see that dog.
18:57
Brian: But it's my mom's dog.
19:00
Brian: You know, uh because if it if it was my mom's dog, that dog would be dust.
19:07
Brian: A dusty dog.
19:09
Richard: This is very much one of the differences between our countries, and I'm glad to share it with you.
19:13
Richard: Uh but yeah.
19:15
Blake: People are gonna be really mad at us about this, but it is just a truth.
19:18
Brian: Yeah.
19:19
Brian: It is the truth, yeah.
19:20
Brian: It's a difference, but it's changing.
19:22
Blake: We're joking.
19:22
Blake: I am joking about the shotgun.
19:25
Blake: I would do it.
19:25
Blake: Yeah, I would say, yeah.
19:27
Richard: Yeah.
19:28
Richard: What's the nice word?
19:29
Richard: Bow and arrow?
19:33
Richard: Silent but deadly.
19:34
Richard: I don't know.
19:36
Richard: Silenced AK-47.
19:38
Richard: They go deadly.
19:39
Richard: Thanks moving too much.
19:41
Blake: They go to They go to the vet typically, Richard.
19:46
Blake: Probably the same way you do it in your country.
19:50
Richard: Is when you actually get there uh to the point where you've got to euthanise a pet, which is a horrible thing to do.
19:56
Richard: It's horrible.
19:57
Richard: No one should ever like take it lightly.
20:00
Richard: But you go there and then they say, Well, it's gonna cost you this.
20:02
Richard: And I remember when I got my last dog um euthanized, they were like, So we can give you his ashes or we can burn him with all the other dogs.
20:10
Richard: I was like, What's the cost difference?
20:11
Richard: And I thought that's a hundred pounds.
20:12
Richard: You're going in with the other dogs then.
20:14
Richard: So it's I don't need these ashes.
20:17
Brian: We actually have a little pet cemetery on our property.
20:19
Brian: Oh, good god, Bri.
20:21
Richard: This is like the only thing you could have done worse is tell me that you have also bought your house on Indian burial ground.
20:28
Brian: But that's that's a common thing, at least here in Indiana that we do.
20:31
Brian: I mean, that's common to you.
20:33
Brian: The ground is sour.
20:35
Brian: I mean, goats pass away, you know.
20:38
Brian: It what do you do?
20:39
Brian: You can either you some people do burn them, or if you have a tractor, you just dig a big hole.
20:44
Blake: They burn the goat.
20:45
Blake: I think there's like a ritual for that.
20:47
Blake: Yeah.
20:47
Brian: No, I I mean Do you wear a special hooded ring?
20:51
Brian: I I my neighbor, so my neighbor raises goats for food.
20:54
Brian: As a as that's part of his you know, livelihood goats.
20:59
Brian: You know, sometimes they pass away prematurely and so he burns them.
21:03
Richard: See you to uh to real life than we are over here.
21:07
Richard: If you own like an animals over here, I mean I suppose if you've got a farm, you you probably do bury them yourself.
21:12
Blake: Um you don't if you if you're in live in the suburbs like me, but if you have a farm, yeah.
21:18
Brian: So I mean it's coming out here.
21:20
Brian: Yeah, it's coming out here to live on like 10, 20 acres where I'm at.
21:24
Richard: Yeah.
21:24
Brian: Yeah, that's quite a bit of land.
21:26
Richard: Yeah, that's you can have a little like if I were to bury something in my backyard, Bri, it would always be within 10 meters of my house.
21:34
Brian: That's freaking out you'd step over it every time you came in the front door, right?
21:38
Brian: I I wouldn't like that.
21:40
Richard: Although I will say this at some point, Bri.
21:43
Richard: At some point, the reanimated corpses of all your dead animals are going to come and kill you in your house at night.
21:49
Brian: Yeah.
21:49
Brian: Well, like that's what I'm saying.
21:50
Brian: But that assumes that that assumes that I did something mean to them.
21:53
Brian: No, that's always a lot of things.
21:57
Brian: Yeah.
21:57
Brian: I don't watch those type of movies sometimes.
21:59
Blake: Oh, well, that's wasn't.
22:00
Blake: My reference about the ground being sour, so you must not have got that one.
22:03
Brian: Oh, I didn't didn't get it.
22:04
Brian: Okay.
22:04
Blake: Nope.
22:05
Blake: Didn't didn't register as me at all.
22:06
Blake: Ground is sour.
22:07
Richard: Don't go over there.
22:09
Richard: Ground is sour.
22:11
Richard: I think all of Brian's ground is sour because he also refuses to invest money in a latrine.
22:18
Richard: And he likes to spread his urine liberally on his field.
22:23
Blake: Richard, how do you how do you use your brain to do that?
22:26
Brian: That is natural byproduct that that you know it goes but turns back into dirt, just fertilizer.
22:32
Brian: Why would you why would you put that somewhere else?
22:34
Blake: That's what you did.
22:35
Blake: Same thing with the goats.
22:36
Brian: That's right.
22:39
Brian: If if a goat don't eat a toilet, then I don't.
22:42
Brian: That's my that's my theory.
22:44
Blake: What's weird about goats, and people I was I was gonna say this earlier because goats are strange, and I feel like maybe we've talked about this on the podcast before, but a goat will be fine one day, just chilling, being a goat, and it's just doing great.
22:58
Blake: And then you come out and the goat is randomly dead.
23:01
Brian: Yeah, yeah, it's difficult.
23:02
Blake: What?
23:03
Blake: Yeah.
23:04
Brian: It's crazy goat shops.
23:06
Brian: That's when you get the tractor out, and you're like, oh, time to bury the goat.
23:10
Richard: Brian, I feel you enjoy that part more than you're letting on.
23:14
Richard: Because as soon as you get a chance to mention your tractor, you're there.
23:17
Brian: I have to I have to admit, there is it's like a a kid with a little tonker, you know, tonka truck, right?
23:23
Brian: I'm jealous.
23:23
Brian: I'm totally jealous.
23:24
Brian: I uh looks like looks like we're digging some dirt today, boys.
23:29
Brian: Yep.
23:29
Brian: Get out and tractor.
23:32
Richard: Uh anyway, guitars, do you remember them?
23:36
Richard: We're supposed to talk about them most of the time.
23:38
Brian: This is another episode where no music uh music gear mentioned.
23:42
Blake: I mean today aliens, goats, burying goats, yeah, shooting dogs.
23:48
Blake: Also very wonderful episode, this is right.
23:51
Brian: Eating chicken from a can versus sardines.
23:54
Richard: The other thing that comes from uh Jay's book is uh uh there were um there were non-human intelligence corpses recovered at Roswell for sure, and at least one was living for a period of time.
24:08
Richard: Really?
24:09
Richard: Yeah.
24:10
Richard: So uh now resides in England.
24:14
Richard: Uh anyhow, PRS just released a new range of guitars.
24:19
Richard: Now I teased this maybe last week or the week before, the new Tekton range.
24:24
Richard: Bri, click on the link and I'm gonna make a guess about what the one you would buy is.
24:31
Richard: Okay, listeners, I do think it's pretty.
24:35
Richard: Um so the the tecton is like their PRS new is the green, right?
24:41
Brian: Gorgeous, man.
24:44
Brian: I knew it was that neon green.
24:48
Brian: I'm a sucker for neon green.
24:50
Richard: Oh, I mean, there's some other good colors.
24:52
Richard: A lovely pink.
24:53
Richard: There's a lovely pink, and the purple next to the phone.
24:55
Brian: The pink is the pink is like too.
24:58
Brian: I don't know what it's not a hot pink.
25:00
Brian: I I don't mind a hot pink, but that's more like uh a softer pink.
25:03
Brian: Yeah, maybe maybe pink.
25:05
Brian: The purple royale, that's beautiful too.
25:08
Brian: Yeah, I do like actually there's a lot of these great Richard.
25:13
Brian: You gotta look at these finishes and then come up with some new pedal finishes.
25:17
Brian: Okay.
25:17
Richard: I really like that's interesting.
25:19
Richard: I already have uh I already have the next 12 pedal finishes ready, Bright, and they're all on this page, and you've rejected half of them already.
25:27
Blake: Uh the uh the neck is interesting.
25:30
Blake: It looks like it's painted black satin on the back.
25:33
Richard: That's it.
25:34
Richard: That's uh really yeah, these are random machines.
25:37
Richard: Yeah, mental.
25:38
Brian: I like that.
25:39
Richard: I don't like a glossy neck, honestly.
25:41
Richard: Also, yeah, Floyd Rose Tremelo on a PRS.
25:44
Richard: Can I just say that is something that made me go, Daddy needs to take out a new credit card.
25:52
Richard: Are they locking?
25:53
Richard: Yeah, are they locking?
25:54
Richard: Appear to be, bro.
25:56
Richard: Let's see.
25:57
Richard: Oh, there's a seven string.
25:59
Richard: Oh yeah, it's strange scales, seven strings, they're all here.
26:02
Richard: Oh boy.
26:03
Richard: They are locking.
26:04
Richard: Interesting.
26:05
Richard: You can get them with a regular PRS bridge.
26:08
Richard: Uh I don't know whether you can get a regular PRS.
26:10
Richard: Um, that looks like a regular PRS trim.
26:12
Richard: No, it's yeah, there's some with a regular PR PRS trim.
26:16
Richard: Yeah.
26:16
Richard: Oh yeah, so there are.
26:18
Richard: Uh why why would you bother?
26:20
Richard: Uh no disrespect to the PRS trim, it's a great floating trim.
26:23
Richard: But if you get an option of having a shred master with a Floyd Rose on it, you're doing it.
26:28
Richard: Otherwise, we're not buying this green guitar right now.
26:31
Richard: Uh what?
26:32
Richard: Sorry, I didn't say that.
26:33
Richard: Ooh, the natural that pearl black.
26:36
Richard: Ooh, that's nice.
26:37
Richard: And can I just say something, right?
26:38
Richard: Because obviously these are at a longer scale length.
26:41
Richard: It suits the PRS body way, way more than I thought it would.
26:45
Richard: Like these look suddenly, these look like this is Paul's final destination.
26:54
Richard: That's a bit morbid.
26:57
Brian: Right.
26:58
Brian: So is Paul okay?
26:59
Brian: What are you talking about?
27:01
Richard: Creative, creative destination.
27:03
Richard: Oh, okay, okay.
27:04
Richard: His ultimate creation could be these guitars.
27:06
Richard: I love these.
27:08
Richard: The Tecton.
27:10
Richard: I mean, I need a pink.
27:12
Brian: I like the McCartys better myself, so why don't we take these finishes, put them on a McCarty?
27:17
Blake: You need a lime green McCarty.
27:20
Brian: Yes.
27:20
Blake: Yeah, that'd be cool.
27:21
Brian: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
27:22
Brian: And I I'll be honest, this purple row.
27:26
Brian: That is uh That is Carmen Amy, man.
27:29
Brian: It's very nice.
27:29
Richard: It is.
27:30
Richard: I even like I'm not a big man when it I I'm a big man.
27:34
Richard: I'm not a big man when it comes to like carved tops.
27:37
Richard: I can take or leave a carved top, I don't mind a slab top.
27:41
Richard: But that is a beautiful carved top.
27:45
Richard: That is the kind of carved top that makes me fall in love with playing the guitar again.
27:52
Richard: Yeah.
27:53
Blake: So if only our listeners could see these.
27:56
Richard: Yeah, well they can by looking at the press release that came out literally today about these.
28:01
Richard: Oh, hot off the press.
28:04
Blake: Press release.
28:04
Brian: Press release.
28:05
Brian: Look for tecton T-E-K-T-O-N.
28:10
Richard: That's the Tekton from OliverFX.co.uk.
28:18
Brian: Yes.
28:18
Brian: Yep, that's it.
28:19
Richard: This is a this is a beautiful guitar.
28:21
Richard: I'm I'm happy.
28:23
Richard: I I feel PRS has almost jumped the shark a little bit.
28:27
Richard: I feel there was a moment maybe five years ago, when it was all about the wood libraries and the dragon inlays and the stuff that was just unobtainable for nearly everyone.
28:38
Richard: These are not cheap.
28:39
Richard: I'm sure they're gonna bring out an SE version, they'd be mad not to.
28:43
Richard: But then the Silver Sky and the Silver Sky SE came out, and everyone looked at Paul and was like, You're insane.
28:50
Richard: But he did make an amazing guitar with that Silver Sky.
28:53
Richard: The SE is probably one of the best value guitars you can get.
28:56
Richard: And he's done it again with his I got one I love.
28:58
Brian: Yeah.
28:59
Richard: You have a Silver Sky SE?
29:01
Brian: No, I have I have just regular SE, sorry.
29:04
Brian: Okay, you have like a SEs in general.
29:06
Richard: SEs in general are incredibly like I believe they were originally outsourced to one of the factories out in Indonesia, and it is now essentially a PRS factory out there because they do nothing other than PRS, and the quality levels are incredibly high.
29:21
Richard: Like I can put this Indonesian um SE Silver Sky next to my American strat, and you wouldn't not really know the difference in quality.
29:34
Brian: Well, that's like my SE, like it doesn't play like a cheap guitar at all.
29:38
Brian: I mean, it's real it's really nice for especially I don't even remember what I bought it for, but it wasn't much.
29:44
Brian: Yeah, mine was like 500 bucks price, 600, right?
29:47
Richard: It was not like serious money, but you know, it's still a lot of money for a guitar, but not really in the ground.
29:56
Brian: Like it's just the quality, it just doesn't, they're not alike at all.
30:00
Richard: Not at all.
30:01
Richard: Uh these are real guitars for the money.
30:03
Richard: And I'm thinking about doing a couple of little upgrades over Christmas, actually.
30:07
Richard: Uh, there's two things that I don't like about the Silver Sky, and they're both made out of grey plastic, which one is the um truss rod cover, which is grey plastic, and the other is the tuner buttons.
30:18
Richard: So I'm thinking of replacing the truss rod cover with a uh rosewood trusswood cover with an om symbol on it, as in the purple om pedal.
30:29
Richard: Um, but also Santana has the om symbol too.
30:32
Richard: And I'm also thinking of dropping in different tuners for the head scroll.
30:36
Brian: So, question for you why, and I I'm not being snarky.
30:40
Brian: Why do you care what the truss rod cover is made of?
30:44
Brian: Uh is that a tone that like is that a tone thing that people are saying, or is that just in Bry.
30:49
Richard: I need to be able to modify it because I'm an inveterate tinkerer.
30:53
Richard: Okay.
30:54
Brian: That's I was just making I was just making sure there wasn't some theory that that changes the tone of it in some way.
30:59
Brian: Yeah, you gotta use real tortoise shell on that.
31:02
Blake: Right.
31:02
Brian: You got that trash rod cover, it makes all the difference.
31:06
Brian: Yeah, we gotta find a division.
31:07
Blake: Tortoise shell lampshade and make a new one.
31:10
Blake: Yep.
31:11
Richard: With the tuners, it's a bit of both.
31:13
Richard: With the tuners, I quite like the idea of sticking some PRS phase three locking tuners in there.
31:19
Richard: So I like the locking tuners, they're really easy to change strings on.
31:22
Richard: Phase three is open back, so you can see the gears, which I kind of like as well.
31:26
Richard: Um, and they're incredibly nicely geared and will hopefully stay in tune.
31:32
Richard: But mainly it's the like um stainless steel buttons rather than the grey plastic ones.
31:38
Richard: I'm not a fan of these grey plastic tuning pegs.
31:41
Richard: Um, but yeah, it's just what I've discovered, and and actually, this this segues nicely onto my next subject.
31:47
Richard: You have inadvertently, Brian, um given me the way forward with my band, which is I think I am straight country songs all the time, right?
31:56
Richard: That's right.
31:57
Richard: Yeah, maybe some of them are gay country songs.
32:01
Richard: What's wrong with that, Brian?
32:02
Richard: Um I mean you're going no, he just meant George straight.
32:09
Blake: Just only George Straight.
32:10
Brian: Yeah, I meant I'm I meant just like nothing but country songs from here on out.
32:16
Brian: Not any sexual preference at all.
32:19
Blake: It can be whatever orientation they want.
32:21
Blake: I don't care.
32:22
Richard: We have no preference on this show, but uh no, you said to me, instead of taking three guitars, like so here was my problem.
32:32
Richard: Problem number one is I uh was using my Floyd Rose equipped Friedman guitar for my band, which is fantastic because it's the easiest to play.
32:40
Richard: So playing the killers on it was easier than any other guitar, pretty much, because the action's so good, yada yada.
32:45
Richard: But I couldn't do a drop D tuning with it because you can't use the fine-tuners to drop a D.
32:51
Richard: It's and yeah, you don't want to unlock the nut in the middle of it.
32:54
Richard: So I was like, what am I gonna do?
32:56
Richard: So the uh and I need a whammy bar for like one or maybe two songs.
33:00
Richard: So I was like, I need a whammy bar guitar that I can do a drop D tuning on.
33:05
Richard: What's the answer?
33:06
Richard: Silver Sky, because John Mayer likes to have his bridge completely on the deck.
33:11
Richard: So I was like, perfect, and it works great.
33:13
Richard: One and a half tunes, it's a D.
33:15
Richard: So brilliant.
33:16
Richard: And then I was like, was Brian onto something with the use of a drop pedal?
33:22
Richard: Uh so I got my whammy out and set that to like the right distance and set the treadle to the right level, and I was playing Green Day with it.
33:31
Richard: I was like, I can now just take one guitar to rehearsals.
33:34
Richard: Right, I have to take another pedal, but I can now just take one guitar to rehearsals.
33:40
Richard: Uh, because a a capo and I can drop that mug really quickly.
33:46
Richard: So that's why I now want to spruce up my silver sky, because it's probably going to be my band's like main guitar for me.
33:55
Richard: It's it does everything really well.
33:57
Richard: What it doesn't do really well is have a humbucker, though.
34:00
Richard: So there might be a bit of um a bit of finagling there.
34:03
Richard: So I might buy an actual drop pedal now because I've got the like the whammy, and like I say, you it's got a foot switch on it, so you can kind of set the treadle and then use the foot switch and you drop down.
34:16
Brian: Which whammy do you have?
34:18
Brian: Because the one I have actually has a setting for drop.
34:21
Richard: Hold on.
34:22
Blake: Hold on.
34:23
Brian: I've got the same thing.
34:25
Brian: I think you shouldn't have to touch the actual treadle.
34:28
Brian: I mean, you can unless you want.
34:30
Brian: Yeah.
34:30
Brian: Uh you can put you on my screen here.
34:33
Brian: So you can set Oh you have the black one.
34:35
Richard: Yeah, I've got the black one.
34:36
Richard: Oh, okay.
34:36
Richard: So you can set the the thing here, but then you have to move this to get it to the right position.
34:41
Richard: That's the same one I have, but in black.
34:43
Brian: Yeah, so mine's a little different.
34:45
Brian: I think I have a little knob on mine I can I can change the setting.
34:48
Richard: I had heard you had a little knob.
34:49
Brian: Uh I do have a but my knob is actually tiny on it.
34:53
Richard: It's crazy.
34:54
Richard: Mine's purple, but uh you might have the whammy DT, which has like the drop on one side and the whammy on the other.
35:02
Richard: That's probably what it is.
35:03
Richard: So but but the drop pedal is like 120 bucks.
35:05
Richard: So I am thinking of just buying that drop pedal because it's a chance for me to buy some new gear.
35:13
Richard: And if there's one thing I know, if there's an excuse, I'm buying it.
35:16
Brian: Well, I mean, now that you're building guitar pedals, I will tell you one of the little known secrets, which is make friends and other guitar pedal companies and trade.
35:25
Brian: Bri, do you want to trade?
35:30
Richard: Are you my friend?
35:31
Richard: Uh that segues very nicely onto the fact that Bri, you in fact have an Oliver FX purple ohm pedal now.
35:40
Brian: I do.
35:40
Richard: Yeah.
35:41
Brian: Uh and I have modified it to be a compressor and overdrive.
35:46
unknown: I'm kidding.
35:47
Brian: I'm cheating.
35:48
Brian: And uh, it's cool, man.
35:49
Brian: That's a it's a good sound of fuzz.
35:51
Richard: Uh so we had a very long conversation.
35:54
Richard: Oh no, and Blake has one too, and he is wearing it on his hat.
35:58
Richard: Yeehaw! Uh did you open up and see the terrible drawings in the house?
36:02
Richard: I saw the black pudding, yeah.
36:03
Richard: You saw the black pudding.
36:04
Richard: It looked just like black pudding.
36:06
Richard: Excellent.
36:06
Richard: No, I did my job.
36:07
Blake: I couldn't mistake, I couldn't, I couldn't have mistaken it for anything else.
36:10
Blake: It was exactly what it was.
36:12
Blake: Good.
36:13
Richard: Um I've learned a lot by making this pedal.
36:17
Richard: Uh, and the number one thing I think I've learned is I wish I sent Brian a prototype earlier.
36:22
Richard: But that's that's just me, okay?
36:25
Richard: Because you know, Brian had some feedback.
36:27
Richard: Um, there are some things I would do differently next time.
36:31
Richard: Uh, but you know, this is pedal number one.
36:34
Richard: This is a collector's edition.
36:36
Richard: But what excites me more is we then went on to a little conversation about what I could do for my next pedal.
36:42
Richard: And Brian has given me some utter inspiration for some ideas.
36:46
Richard: But enough about me.
36:47
Richard: Tell me about how much you love my pedal, Bri.
36:49
Brian: Come on.
36:51
Brian: Um, well, see, the first thing I did, I got it, I opened it up, and of course, it has a little guy smoking a pipe, right?
36:59
Brian: Yes.
36:59
Brian: So I told Richard, I said, you know, on V2, you got each version, you gotta have the guy smoking something different, right?
37:07
Brian: Meats.
37:08
Brian: Like different types of bongs and stuff like that, you know.
37:10
Brian: Like that's that's how you tell the different versions.
37:13
Brian: Oh, that's the uh that's the aluminum can bong version.
37:16
Blake: That's fantastic.
37:17
Blake: Oh, I haven't oh yeah.
37:18
Blake: So you just want him to put a guy smoking crack on the fellow?
37:21
Richard: Is that serious question, though, right?
37:26
Richard: Uh you know, I mean, obviously, we have worked together for um nearly 10 years, but like the finish and everything I thought was pretty good for uh oh it looked great, yeah.
37:35
Richard: I'm quite happy with how that came out and like the the quality you looked inside it, the quality of the circuit was was to your mind.
37:43
Richard: Yes, fantastic, yeah.
37:44
Richard: Not a problem at all.
37:45
Richard: So you heard it here first, listeners.
37:47
Richard: Brian Wampler definitely loves the purple stuff.
37:51
Richard: He says, Brian Wampler.
37:53
Blake: Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it at all.
37:55
Brian: And and obviously despite what everyone else is saying, mine worked just fine.
37:59
Richard: Yeah, right.
38:01
Richard: There is no battery inside it.
38:03
Richard: Uh that's a mistake, maybe.
38:05
Brian: No, I mean, I don't know.
38:06
Brian: I think I know with our with the Wampler line, very few people use batteries.
38:10
Brian: I mean, I don't think that's ubiquitous across all different customer types.
38:14
Richard: Yeah, no, I think the two things I'm gonna change for my next series of pedals.
38:17
Richard: One, I do want to move that power jack.
38:19
Richard: It was a bit tight on this circuit to get the power jack at the top and not foul something, which is pretty much.
38:26
Brian: Sometimes you have to move the knobs and everything down just a bit to fit it.
38:30
Richard: And that that was that's on me.
38:32
Richard: Uh, and also my voice switch because we m added a modification to like dampen the the kind of clicking, it also lessened the bass response that you get.
38:46
Richard: And as I said to you, Bri, it's very, very subtle.
38:49
Brian: Something I found it really interesting.
38:51
Brian: I don't know if you want me to are you telling people where that kind of modification originated from?
38:57
Brian: I mean, not who exactly, but you you you can talk around it.
39:02
Brian: I mean, I found that really fascinating because that type of circuit was very popular, was popularized by another uh company that makes great fuzz pedals.
39:12
Brian: And I had no idea that those two were related.
39:14
Brian: So I just thought it was awesome.
39:16
Richard: Okay, good.
39:17
Richard: All right.
39:17
Richard: I mean, like I say, it learning experience one.
39:21
Richard: I I had to bring out a fuzz first because of the whole British King of Fuzz thing, right?
39:26
Richard: But the reality is, is I think people get scared by the word fuzz.
39:30
Richard: It's quite a tameable pedal, right?
39:32
Richard: You can use it like a distortion bed.
39:35
Blake: Watch out, there's the fuzz.
39:37
Richard: Oh, that's common around these parts.
39:39
Richard: Uh, but I I'm just glad that you know, again, I I wrote in messages to both of you this would not have happened without both of you.
39:48
Richard: You have both inspired and taught me uh over years.
39:53
Richard: I hear royalty.
39:55
Brian: Is that what I'm hearing?
39:56
Brian: Royalties?
39:57
Richard: Well, I am the British King of Fuzz.
40:00
Richard: This is royalty addressing you.
40:02
Richard: Uh we can we can have a commercial conversation.
40:06
Richard: How about this?
40:07
Richard: No, I'm just tea, I'm just teasing them.
40:08
Richard: For every for every hundred pedals I sell, I will send you a plectrum.
40:14
Richard: How about that?
40:16
Richard: That's a good idea.
40:18
Richard: I mean, a lot of people have told me that because I've I've been pretty honest with the sales figures for it, and we're doing okay.
40:23
Richard: Like for a first year, I think Brian, you would say we've done pretty well.
40:27
Brian: For a first release, you yeah, you've done 500% more than I did.
40:33
Richard: People are expecting uh like me to say, yeah, we've sold thousands of it, and I'm I'm a one of those pedal millionaires that you hear of.
40:40
Brian: But that's just not common in the pedal market at all.
40:44
Richard: In any market right now, I think.
40:46
Richard: I think everybody is is holding back.
40:48
Richard: Uh it's it's tough, but yeah, I'm really proud of it.
40:51
Richard: Uh I hope more people buy it, especially listeners of this show, because again, you're also part of the reason why I did it.
40:57
Richard: But anyway, advert over oliverfects.co.uk.
41:00
Richard: Uh and you got yours as well, Blake.
41:04
Brian: So I so question for you.
41:06
Brian: Yeah, yeah.
41:07
Brian: I did.
41:08
Brian: So a little bit of a website question.
41:10
Richard: Yes.
41:12
Brian: Why don't more companies in the UK just use dot com?
41:17
Brian: Um, because it's more expensive.
41:20
Richard: It is like what, 10 10 bucks a year or something, or what?
41:23
Richard: More like double the the price.
41:25
Richard: So like yeah, twenty bucks a year.
41:28
Richard: And also most of the dot coms have gone.
41:33
Richard: So like you can normally get a.co.uk when a dot com has gone.
41:38
Richard: It's funny because I looked up OliverFX.com and it was owned by uh Wamplum Media Inc.
41:45
Brian: I was gonna say some things in life are for sale, but yeah, I'm I'm just teasing.
41:51
Brian: Uh and yeah, I think also we're quite proud to be the UK I've noticed that because I mean obviously you don't see any.co.us websites, right?
42:01
Brian: Well no, that is.com, unfortunately.
42:04
Brian: Right.
42:04
Brian: Yeah.
42:05
Blake: But also known as the best, you know?
42:09
Blake: All right there.
42:10
Blake: Richard, I have a question about websites.
42:13
Blake: Yes, yeah.
42:14
Blake: And I and there's been a lot of because probably.com is getting taken up so much, um a lot of people doing completely different third level, yeah, third level domain.
42:25
Blake: Oliver effects dot pedal, you know?
42:28
Blake: And and how does how does that work?
42:31
Richard: Can you literally just pick any word?
42:33
Richard: Uh kind of some people have registered basically all of the um third level like domain names.
42:39
Richard: So yeah, paydown.
42:41
Richard: There's a bunch of them now though that didn't used to be.
42:43
Richard: Yeah, dot ai, dot io, all of these have diode, dot capacitor.
42:49
Richard: I mean, yeah, um so all all of those have pretty much gone.
42:54
Richard: And this womper guy, he's hoovering them up.
42:58
Brian: It'd be great if there's a Oliver.fx website.
43:00
Brian: That'd be awesome.
43:02
Richard: You know, dot.
43:03
Richard: Can you just say something, Bri?
43:05
Richard: Right?
43:05
Richard: I'm not allowed to swear on this show, but every time you mention a new URL, I'm compelled to buy it, right?
43:12
Richard: I mean, that would be owned by Wampler Media, yeah.
43:15
Richard: I mean, imagine if I said mod your guitar pedal.com, mod your own guitar pedal.com.
43:21
Richard: You got that too?
43:22
Richard: That's mine.
43:23
Richard: Mod my guitar pedal.
43:24
Richard: How do I mod a guitar pedal?
43:26
Richard: Why do I even want to mod a guitar pedal.com?
43:28
Richard: I don't have that one.
43:28
Richard: That one's a mod and what's a guitar pedal.
43:32
Blake: You remember, Ryan, this is gonna be a flashback.
43:34
Blake: I don't I think this was before Richard's time.
43:37
Blake: At least Richard's time.
43:39
Blake: Well, with the company.
43:41
Blake: Do you remember that dude who was buying all these subdomains and domains and then resell them back to the turn and resell them to all the pedal companies?
43:52
Blake: Yeah, that was a real piece of work, wasn't he?
43:55
Brian: Yeah, that was awesome.
43:56
Brian: Yeah, good business idea.
43:57
Blake: Yeah, it didn't work as you can imagine.
43:59
Blake: I don't think.
44:00
Blake: single person paid him for any of it.
44:01
Brian: Right.
44:01
Brian: We we call that trademark law, sir.
44:04
Brian: Yeah.
44:04
Brian: That's not gonna work.
44:05
Blake: Hey, I own uh wampletpedals.co and you might want that.
44:09
Blake: You wouldn't want a thing to get published on there that might be damaging to you, would you?
44:14
Brian: Right.
44:15
Brian: Yeah, because there's no legalities in that at all.
44:17
Brian: Sure.
44:18
Brian: No.
44:18
Blake: It's not an established brand name that you own and have for, you know, right.
44:22
Blake: Almost 20 years now or 20 years?
44:24
Blake: Like something like that.
44:26
Brian: 25, maybe even 25.
44:28
Brian: Mm-hmm.
44:28
Brian: Close to it, getting close to it, yeah.
44:30
Richard: Uh but anyway, enough about you guys.
44:35
Richard: Uh more about my pedal.
44:38
Brian: Enough about you.
44:39
Brian: Let's talk about me.
44:40
Richard: Did you guys try out the glow in the dark picks?
44:43
Richard: They do glow in the dark.
44:44
Richard: They do glow in the dark.
44:45
Richard: I have not tried it, no.
44:46
Richard: Oh what is even the point in sending you anything these days?
44:50
Richard: Uh sad news the guitar shop that I bought my Les Paul from back in 9 2000 uh is no longer with us, which is Steve's music store in Toronto.
45:03
Richard: What's Steve doing now?
45:05
Richard: I think there are still some music stores around in Montreal maybe that bear his name but the the flagship stores in Toronto have gone and I'm sad about that.
45:17
Richard: I remember when I bought my Les Paul this is how it went down I've flown out to Canada for five days.
45:23
Richard: I was in business meetings every single day I fell asleep in at least two of them and had to be woken up by colleagues.
45:30
Richard: It's just like this podcast.
45:32
Richard: Right.
45:33
Richard: Not much has changed in that for um there was a lunch break and it was like two hours long and I just jumped in uh a cab and said take me to the nearest guitar store and he took me to Steve's guitar store and I went and I said I want a cherry red lespool so he showed me all of the lespours and I said I'll have that one please 750 Canadian dollars um no a thousand Canadian dollars which back then was like 600 pounds.
46:01
Richard: What's that in maple syrup?
46:03
Richard: Um 14 hectares.
46:06
Blake: Okay all right all right uh love mmm I love me some Canadian maple syrup.
46:11
Richard: Took the guitar back to the hotel played it unplugged for three days flew home and job is a good one.
46:17
Richard: Job is a good one especially if there's maple syrup.
46:19
Brian: Were you nervous flying back home with the Les Paul?
46:22
Richard: Kind of very nervous about that I mean this Les Paul has it I took it in like I just threw it in the luggage.
46:30
Richard: I threw it in the hole plane yeah but I was flying first class so I don't know if they treat your luggage better in first class I don't think they do and maybe they think they're in first I don't know no there's a there's a lot of like let's see how far this guitar case will go so I I I'm not sure whether that's the case.
46:56
Richard: Also we beat the guitar case up beforehand because I think I'm safe to admit this now I didn't want to pay any import duty I wanted to pretend that I'd taken the guitar out with me and bought it back.
47:06
Richard: So we wrote my address on it and then rubbed it out and scuffed it by all jumping up on the guitar case.
47:11
Richard: I'm just grown men jumping on a guitar case in some parking lot somewhere.
47:17
Richard: Well no I can tell you it was in the uh business breakfasting area of the King Edward Hotel in downtown Toronto and the people that jumped on it were the senior vice president of sales and the senior vice president of product uh uh both of whom are multi-millionaires and have got better things to do than jump on guitar cable not actually they're like this is what I do with my cars I jump on up and down on it dent them all up and went on to paying taxes on it but let me tell you that that Lespool is on my rack 26 years later uh perfect it's got a few dents it's it's lived a life but it has never jump on it a few times it'll do that yeah I mean you jump on it something long enough I did take the guitar out before we jumped on the case just right now but anyway good I have seen now I don't remember the company that makes it but I believe it was the former owner of Brown Box.
48:19
Blake: I cannot remember his company name but it's a great idea if you have a les paul that you love he made this metal brace that is it comes on and off but it goes right at that joint the where they always break and you can fit fit it in your case with and everything but he made this metal brace for traveling with your les pauls and Gibsons that have that headstock angle.
48:41
Blake: And I was like dude why did it take this long for somebody to come up with that this has been a problem for years.
48:45
Blake: It's a great idea great idea.
48:48
Richard: But yeah I I wouldn't trust the guitar now on on the airplanes uh that's for sure uh Brian you've got a new amp right uh I don't have it yet but I do have it ordered yes should be here any day yeah it is a JMP um started its life in I forget what year it actually started in the 70s maybe so I was confused about what year your amp was because the range was 74 to 87 yeah so the thing is this one has actually been rebuilt by George Metropolis and oh yeah so and I've you haven't really I don't really talk about this much not for any certain reason just hasn't came up but he's one of my favorite amp builders the guy knows his shit when it comes to plexis module that he made right yeah he's got he's just he's just I love his work man he's so good and and his amps were when I was just like going to guitar shows and stuff he'd always have a have a room there and or a booth there and I was like man his marshals are just always so damn good sounding so yeah so I saw this one when it was rebuilt by George I'm like uh that one's mine I believe I'll be taking that one yeah I think he closed up shop last year he did he closed up man yeah but yeah I was like oh man I always wanted one of those yeah that's the same same yeah so I saw this I'm like okay now's my chance I'm getting one of these Metropolis Marshall yeah but he's been a legend in the modded marshall world for yeah so talented just so just such a great set of ears too man so yeah but that's the story that's why the year kind of doesn't matter that much and when did you get it uh yeah that's a good question let's look on the old reverb right now and see when it's coming as of today the 20th it says that apparently there's nothing in my cart what does that mean let's see order that's selling I'm not selling anything right now I'm buying and it was shipped on the 18th to 1930 Avenue Oregon City Oregon No supposed to arrive this Friday so there you go I'm excited yeah couple of other quick questions about my pedal um did the boxing arrive completely intact yes was the packaging sufficient for international travel totally oh yeah not a problem see there you go that's what you buy when you buy an Oliver FX product so we uh I can't tell too much but I will say we bought something offset from 1967 that we're not gonna be keeping I'm just gonna put it that way okay stay tuned for for that just teaser out under the wind I got I got a guitar coming my way I don't know when it's coming um and it came completely randomly so we have a friend um and honestly we need to get him on the show at some point to talk to you Bri.
52:00
Richard: His name's Ricky he works for Crimson guitars that's oh yeah the the cats who did the uh the day for me and have invited you on a telecaster course any day you want to go there Bri uh but you've got to fly to England first but um Ricky is going to learn how to wind pickups so we started talking about making his own range of pickups uh I came up with this name check it out Rick Ups oh my god I'm a genius such a marketing genius right but anyhow he's gonna learn that and he was like but you know I need some guitars to test them in I'm like well I'll test it and he's like would you I'm like yeah absolutely I just need a guitar to put them in because all all of my pickups I love and he's like well I was like we could build a little like scratch built telecaster and he's like no I don't I don't like parts casters it's like I've probably got a neck and a body that we can do and it's gone from let's throw something together to he is now sourcing me rare woods to build the custom spec telecaster out of like it's gonna take some time um and I don't care about that I'm in no rush I just think it's hella cool so yes sorry uh curious why why doesn't he like parts uh guitars because he works for a company that sells guitar building courses Brian I think that's a sales lie in the to uh to get you to come and build a telecaster gotcha you could come on our course is some part those courses sound like so much fun though yeah that would they are yeah absolutely helpful I mean like I asked him I said how long would it take he's like five days I'm like see for me the biggest problem isn't the fact that it's a cost but that's five days off work five days right exactly and you know that's from from blank wood to painted telecaster at the end yeah that's an amazing I will tell you though but you know that's a perfect vacation for someone I was gonna say if that was in Oregon I would be like yes I'm I'm going let's go do that oh no I'll I'll say this again if either of you ever make it to England and have a week spare then we will go and do it together and that will be the ultimate vacation but um yeah neither of you have uh but yeah he's doing that that's amazing um he's really obsessed by Brad Paisley like he is really entirely obsessed by his tone he buys all of our kind of like Paisleyish pedals um it's on the fingers man I've heard Brad play on everything and it it's just the way he plays well he's Hayden Baker's the same way he can play exactly like Brad no matter what he plays.
54:30
Richard: Really yeah he he's he's built a couple of like Dr.
54:34
Richard: Z clones uh and they look really nice.
54:36
Richard: He's built some really good amps uh and and I'm like dude if I was your age I would continue doing this because this is how you a good business.
54:47
Brian: I was thinking about that the other day like if I had if there is some downtime where may maybe I'll do this like five years or something.
54:55
Brian: I would like to just build a bunch of different types of amps just for the hell of it.
55:00
Brian: Just for the hell of it.
55:01
Brian: Not for anything other than just for fun.
55:03
Richard: Yeah every great amp builder got started Brian it's very time intensive it is but you know I kind of see you a bit like the next Jim Marshall I want to build guitar amps for a living for fun is totally different.
55:17
Brian: Yeah not for a living you should that's um I mean I say that who knows what the who knows what's gonna happen in five years.
55:28
Richard: So I I literally got AI to rewrite a classic computer game in less than a day today and I did it by feeding it a disc image.
55:36
Richard: If that's where we are today like Donkey Kong.
55:41
Richard: How did you know what my wife calls me well I thought that was Space Invaders throwing barrels all the time that's um no uh well I'm not gonna tell you the name of the game but I can tell you that the name of my game is Mega Holdon.
56:02
Richard: So you'll either know it or you won't but honestly it's scary how good technology sent it to me today and it's I I I played it for a while and that was great.
56:14
Blake: Honestly it's just in more digital yet though I think people will still want to do real things.
56:21
Richard: Well this is what I'm saying I think people want to do more real things because software is going to get to the stage where we no longer have software programs.
56:29
Richard: We just pay for AI and you go to your computer and just go uh today I'm building a spreadsheet so create me the right environment for that spreadsheet and it'll create you XL light you know that's gonna happen you know and not this is not another plug for my course but honestly seriously from like the pit of my stomach I think that's where things like building your own guitar building your own pedals that's where it starts becoming so much more valuable for the person from an experience point of view.
56:58
Brian: Definitely because it's that because it's if you can build anything digital that you want to very easily then it doesn't have value anymore.
57:05
Richard: No I see the plu I see the arse falling out of the plug-in market.
57:09
Richard: Yeah for sure literally I I can't this is what's gonna happen the next time I want to buy a plug in I'm gonna go I'm gonna say I need this effect and if it isn't free I'm gonna build it I don't know if you've heard about this be careful.
57:26
Brian: So somebody was able to plug a stryman pedal in I have heard about this yeah basically were able to use Claude to reproduce that onto another piece of hardware entirely very easily didn't know anything about effects just asked Claude what to do that's kind of scary on one hand.
57:48
Brian: Also it's also it's sad too yeah I mean I think lawyers are involved now because that's yeah I mean it's but I mean if that if anyone can do that for their own purposes easily then what why would anybody want to spend time writing the algorithms for a great delay pedal we're back to the tuna fish in the canon we I know you said purposes not porpoises sorry no not porpoises but I mean if you spent a lot of time creating something and it just gets ripped off and easily distributed what's the point?
58:25
Richard: Like really it what is the point?
58:26
Richard: And it's why I do believe are you talking about the music industry right now?
58:31
Richard: Well I mean that's that's the thing it's that's the kind of yeah yeah it is a paradox because I'm not being funny AI is now influencing how music is written and other than the uh rather splendid Mary in the junkyard which a lot of listeners have dug that recommendation for there are there is less good music out there because there's more bad music so there's the same amount of good music there's just so much drivel to get through right you know so um it's tough man it is tough so only listen to our recommendations and you'll be alright that's right the new chasing tone record on Spotify but I do think Bright you make a good point I I think um physical products are going to become more valuable in a way and I think artists and experiences like building your own guitar experiences and communities because you know I I feel more isolated than ever and actually and we'll get into this a little bit on the Patreon I'm struggling with my addiction to mobile phones method no mobile phones social media networks I mean you're exactly right I mean you're staring at a screen all day long it uh once you pull yourself away from it sometimes you feel the urge to just check email again or check code again or check that you know I actually this is weird the thing that broke me out of the loop today was AI because by having a little project to build in AI my focus was 100% on something new and shiny creating something yeah and I again look back at myself in an astrally projected manner and went you fat waster you spend all day long scrolling through your phone thinking it's doing something for you and it's not so yeah I'm gonna try not to do it a bit more I don't blame you.
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Richard: So job's a good one job is a good job is a good one.
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Richard: So uh speaking of goodens we should probably mention all our wonderiferous executive producers.
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Richard: Oh our executive producers of the chasing tone podcast yes indeed my friend Blake the executive producers of the Chasing Tone podcast oh the ones with without whom this wouldn't be possible those be the ones shall I say them or shall you oh I think it's your turn I think right okay well looking at Brian's smiling face he's left some tripwires in there so let's see Bill Bays Andrew Adkins David Tyndall Dave Trombetti Eric Wilson Vida Frostad Michael Friggs Sean Arbo of Gunstreet Wiring I spoke about him when we were talking about pickups Rick Calhoun of Honey Picks Patrice Fournays Dylan Talks Tone the Missouri electrical box company Kevin Harrington Barry from Grez Guitars Tom Kelly Jake Young of the Man the Helm podcast Pigsy John O'Neill Brian Wompler uh Robert Carr Hunter Hudson Bob Stokes Nick Spano Sasha Sir Jay Stratton Out of the Shadows available now brilliant book Harry Post Harvey pedals Brian Wompler Alison Carroll Bum laser Anthony Stevens at a plays a guitar Philip Carter of the 40 Watt podcast Christopher Logan hold on Jason Engelhart Billy Hammington the third is that real uh Josh James Thomson Colin Foschetti of Odin Derek Lion Darfel Dustin Romero Wizard of Wars Crap Tom Bud Cole's badly advised ponytail DJ Farnes Kyle Viana Robert Harden John Hill Nick Cole Kyle Ray your face Brian Wampler D V D D V Evangelista Dave Evangelista of the Guitar Dance podcast Roxy Gwynn Derek Howe Churchill from Cam Girls Plus Ross Edwards and William Price thank you all you are wonderful even the three Brians a lot of Brians in this world all right folks talk to you um next week we'll see you I'm leaving next week oh owed it like leaving the podcast or leaving for work leaving for work and play I think I'll be here on Tuesday I have to check my calendar we'll we'll find out what's happening next week on another episode of the Chasing Tone Podcast.
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