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- 0:05Speaker 1: Fall systems don't clear.
- 0:07Speaker 2: We lift.
- 0:36Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody happy Monday afternoon. We're talking some hoops. Hey,
- 0:40Speaker 1: we got NFL and hoops on tonight. There we go.
- 0:43Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good night over here. Excited. I
- 0:46Speaker 1: won't lie. My main screen will one hundred percent the NFL,
- 0:50Speaker 1: but maybe my side screen will be some NBA if
- 0:53Speaker 1: there is a little sweat just looking at only four
- 0:55Speaker 1: games on tap, but we have a seven Eastern, two
- 0:58Speaker 1: games at seven point thirty, one game at eight thirty Eastern,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and that is it for us. And that is both
- 1:03Speaker 1: on FanDuel and DraftKings. So fandel was last year for sure.
- 1:08Speaker 1: At the beginning of this year, I'm not quite sure,
- 1:10Speaker 1: but they like grouped all the games in. It would
- 1:13Speaker 1: normally have been a six game slate, and I think
- 1:15Speaker 1: is what we have. Yeah, six game, but it's just
- 1:17Speaker 1: for they separated the same as DraftKings with my man, Matt,
- 1:21Speaker 1: excited to talk to some hoops. How you doing today,
- 1:23Speaker 1: I'm good man.
- 1:24Speaker 3: We talked a little before how NFL kind of got
- 1:26Speaker 3: us this weekend, but I feel like Fandor was doing
- 1:29Speaker 3: the full full ride, the full six gamer even this
- 1:33Speaker 3: early is like last week, so a little bit of
- 1:35Speaker 3: a change up that they are only doing the four
- 1:37Speaker 3: gamer tonight.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was surprised to see that as well.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Maybe it has something to do with NFL also going on.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows, but we got go collect in here.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Oh see Jason Turner, little neck, William Wins a lot
- 1:50Speaker 1: YEP title is doing the double dip today. Splash, Oh god,
- 1:54Speaker 1: ja Jake Swalees changed his name to Splash, Oh God.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Good to see Clinton here asome to see you as well,
- 2:01Speaker 1: speedy hope everybody doing well. Took down the Saturday NFL
- 2:05Speaker 1: slate and hit a hundred time. Look at that. Jalen
- 2:08Speaker 1: Cocher is the man. Do love to see that? Absolutely
- 2:11Speaker 1: went off what's up NBA stream? Yeah, so we're gonna
- 2:15Speaker 1: be doing Monday through Friday. We're gonna be talking hoops
- 2:18Speaker 1: on this channel Saturday too. A quick hit as well.
- 2:20Speaker 1: So yeah, there is NFL today, but because it's only
- 2:23Speaker 1: the last NFL Showdown game, we're still keeping with our
- 2:26Speaker 1: regular NBA schedule started last week, which is Monday through Friday.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Only four to talk about. So again, anytime there's four more,
- 2:33Speaker 1: you will see us here three or less you won't
- 2:36Speaker 1: to still get Rio's slate plan NBA slate plan to
- 2:39Speaker 1: check that out for all members. Core report from our
- 2:41Speaker 1: guy Matt Ham and Rio cash reports me the Stone
- 2:45Speaker 1: best tool in the business, and of course showdown content
- 2:47Speaker 1: slate plan projections ownership from our guy Little Neck who
- 2:51Speaker 1: does an awesome, awesome job. First thing that stands out
- 2:54Speaker 1: to me, I'll throw a broad slate to you. Obviously
- 2:56Speaker 1: a good amount of Q tags that matter, But then
- 2:59Speaker 1: I'm just staring at this is one one hundred and
- 3:01Speaker 1: thirty imply total for the Calves the nut matchup against Utah. Yeah,
- 3:06Speaker 1: can Utah hang? That's a good question, my broad slate.
- 3:09Speaker 1: We got a lot of QUE tags and man we
- 3:10Speaker 1: got a big boy Cleveland or implied total.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of feel exactly how you do. That's
- 3:16Speaker 3: the two Those are the two things that stand out.
- 3:19Speaker 3: The Q tags certainly, you know, gonna factor in and
- 3:23Speaker 3: loom large on this slate, certainly especially the ones on
- 3:26Speaker 3: Dallas because it's the last game. And then Cleveland. Uh,
- 3:30Speaker 3: hard to get away from the Calves here. I will say, like,
- 3:34Speaker 3: depending on how you think this game plays out, If
- 3:36Speaker 3: you don't think Utah can hang with Cleveland. That might
- 3:39Speaker 3: be a reason to maybe not spend up out some calves.
- 3:42Speaker 3: And I also think, for whatever it's worth, it might
- 3:45Speaker 3: not mean anything because they're just not very good. I
- 3:48Speaker 3: do think we see an inspired effort from Utah here,
- 3:52Speaker 3: more inspired than normal, I should say, after just getting
- 3:55Speaker 3: embarrassed against Charlotte a couple of nights ago. Losing by
- 3:58Speaker 3: like sixty five points or fifty five points to Charlotte
- 4:02Speaker 3: is gonna embarrass anyone. So I think we see Utah's
- 4:05Speaker 3: best foot forward here. What does that mean? I don't know,
- 4:09Speaker 3: does that matter?
- 4:10Speaker 1: I don't know. It just kind of just what I'm feeling,
- 4:12Speaker 1: though I like it. Yeah. So, looking at the spreads
- 4:15Speaker 1: and the totals for these four games, twelve and a
- 4:17Speaker 1: half point favorite of the Caves. The next highest favorite
- 4:20Speaker 1: is the Pacers at five and a half, then four
- 4:22Speaker 1: and a half for the MAVs, three and a half
- 4:24Speaker 1: for Philly, So three of the four supposed to be
- 4:26Speaker 1: competitive in terms of the totals though, two forty nine
- 4:29Speaker 1: and a half for Utah Cleveland big one right there,
- 4:32Speaker 1: two twenty five and a half, two twenty and a half,
- 4:34Speaker 1: two nineteen and a half for the others. So I
- 4:37Speaker 1: do think it is very important. If Utah does hang it,
- 4:40Speaker 1: it feels hard not to see multiple guys in this
- 4:44Speaker 1: game getting there. If it does blo out, you could
- 4:45Speaker 1: see obviously reduced minutes for the starters, and it busts.
- 4:51Speaker 1: The big thing is injuries too. We're gonna go game
- 4:54Speaker 1: by game talk injuries, but I'm seeing Brandon Ingram Kawahi, Paul,
- 4:57Speaker 1: George m. Bead and them Hard and Daniel Gafford all questioned.
- 5:01Speaker 1: But like, that's a lot of very important Q tags
- 5:04Speaker 1: now a good amount of those are in that's eight
- 5:06Speaker 1: thirty or excuse me, seven to thirty window, only thirty
- 5:09Speaker 1: minutes after cavs Utah locks. Obviously I always look at
- 5:13Speaker 1: it's like thirty minutes is when I expect to get
- 5:14Speaker 1: the news. Plenty of times you do get it before.
- 5:18Speaker 1: If something, for some reason, we don't get them hard
- 5:22Speaker 1: PG and Beat any of the news, it does make
- 5:25Speaker 1: me like this first game a little less just because
- 5:27Speaker 1: maybe like an NBAT or a PG or I mean,
- 5:31Speaker 1: there's a lot of important ones. If they're out, you
- 5:33Speaker 1: will get a lot more value, a lot more stronger
- 5:35Speaker 1: plays in those second games as well. So any thoughts
- 5:38Speaker 1: on that, assuming we don't get the news, would you
- 5:40Speaker 1: back off the first game maybe a little bit or
- 5:42Speaker 1: just ride it as is.
- 5:44Speaker 3: I don't think you have to back off, but I think,
- 5:46Speaker 3: like you put it, it gives you more like reason
- 5:48Speaker 3: to back off if that's like what you want to do.
- 5:51Speaker 3: And it goes both ways. Also kind of to how
- 5:54Speaker 3: you were saying that there's going to open up, you know,
- 5:57Speaker 3: if guys are out, it could potentially open up a
- 5:58Speaker 3: lot more value.
- 5:59Speaker 1: But on the other side.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Of things, if just let's say you have Embid and
- 6:03Speaker 3: Paul George out, it's all of a sudden gonna make
- 6:05Speaker 3: Tyrese MAXI look like an infinitely better play.
- 6:09Speaker 1: So I do think that stuff is important to pay
- 6:12Speaker 1: attention to.
- 6:13Speaker 3: I don't think that there's enough Q tags to where
- 6:15Speaker 3: there's just gonna be, you know, plays that open up
- 6:18Speaker 3: that are going to become better plays than the guys
- 6:20Speaker 3: in the first game. But I do think there's merit
- 6:23Speaker 3: to potentially backing off a little bit from the first game.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. We will jump
- 6:28Speaker 1: right into that first game first, or man, trisk it.
- 6:31Speaker 1: That is absolutely insane minus sixty last game and one
- 6:35Speaker 1: NBA game. I mean that should be a fireable offense. Yeah,
- 6:39Speaker 1: it's funny too.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I saw I saw that stat a couple hours ago,
- 6:42Speaker 3: and I saw that his brother J Dubb Jalen Williams
- 6:45Speaker 3: was on Instagram like under someone commented that stat and
- 6:49Speaker 3: he was like, he didn't even play that bad. Plus
- 6:51Speaker 3: minus is a bad stat.
- 6:53Speaker 1: It's like, bro, just back off this one. You know
- 6:55Speaker 1: what I mean, don't I would not have responded. I
- 6:57Speaker 1: wouldn't have responded to that at all. Minus sixty There's
- 7:00Speaker 1: no if there's no way other way to put it
- 7:01Speaker 1: than that is absolutely terrible. I wonder if you have
- 7:05Speaker 1: the number trisk get or if you saw it, man,
- 7:07Speaker 1: what's the second worst in NBA history? Because man, that
- 7:10Speaker 1: feels like they get up there. They get up there.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Like Jdubb himself was like minus forty in an NBA
- 7:17Speaker 3: Finals game. So like that in itself, you know what
- 7:19Speaker 3: I mean, Like that in itself shows you that, like
- 7:22Speaker 3: in these NBA games, when they get tilted like that,
- 7:24Speaker 3: some of these numbers get skewed big time.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Wow. That that is crazy. All right. We will touch
- 7:30Speaker 1: on the first game of the slate, though again on
- 7:32Speaker 1: an island at seven eastern. The Cleveland Calves kevaliers minus
- 7:35Speaker 1: twelve and that point favorites over the Utah Jazz two
- 7:37Speaker 1: forty nine and a half total in this one, really
- 7:40Speaker 1: no injury news like Dean Wade's out, but relative to
- 7:44Speaker 1: the slate there is no Q tags. There is no
- 7:46Speaker 1: big injury news on both sides. It really just comes
- 7:49Speaker 1: down to Calves have the nut matchup against Utah very
- 7:53Speaker 1: high pace, so at their prices, even though they're healthy,
- 7:56Speaker 1: you're gonna have a decent amount of guys grade out
- 7:59Speaker 1: pretty well. Almost all Calves as you can see outside
- 8:02Speaker 1: the use of Nerki, who project solid point per dollar.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I'll let you take it away at Calves in Utah.
- 8:08Speaker 3: So yeah, Cleveland side is obviously gonna look like probably
- 8:10Speaker 3: the best side on the entire slate. Donovan Mitchell their
- 8:14Speaker 3: lead dog, ninety four hundred. It's a nice tag for him,
- 8:17Speaker 3: like you're not getting any value on him there. Certainly
- 8:19Speaker 3: it's a revenge spot. I think he looks good here.
- 8:22Speaker 3: He's projected, you know, depending on where you look for
- 8:25Speaker 3: twenty to thirty percent ownership. I think it makes sense,
- 8:28Speaker 3: Like I think there are ways around it. On this
- 8:30Speaker 3: slate we're gonna talk about a Boston team without Jalen Brown.
- 8:34Speaker 3: We have Philly potentially missing guys. We have that Dallas
- 8:37Speaker 3: Brooklyn game with a couple expensive spend up options. So
- 8:40Speaker 3: I think there are ways around it. But I do
- 8:42Speaker 3: think that he projects well in this spot if Utah
- 8:44Speaker 3: can hang around which Monday NBA. In the NBA in general,
- 8:49Speaker 3: like the spreads, thirteen is thirteen to fourteen. If it's
- 8:53Speaker 3: a fifteen point game at the beginning of the fourth quarter,
- 8:56Speaker 3: Utah is gonna be playing their guys. So as long
- 8:57Speaker 3: as it's not one of these crazy creat blowouts twenty
- 9:01Speaker 3: five or thirty after the third, I think you most
- 9:03Speaker 3: likely get full run. Certainly, it could get you know,
- 9:06Speaker 3: crazy and blowout and then you get less run from
- 9:08Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell. But if you're playing it like Utah keeps
- 9:11Speaker 3: it at least semi competitive, I think he looks good here.
- 9:14Speaker 3: I think Mobili looks good at seventy nine hundred. The
- 9:16Speaker 3: ownership worries me on him though he's projecting for even
- 9:19Speaker 3: more ownership than Mitchell. He's projecting to be one of
- 9:22Speaker 3: the top eight nine guys owned on the slate. And
- 9:27Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I get it. I guess
- 9:29Speaker 3: it's seventy nine hundred in this spot, but he hasn't
- 9:32Speaker 3: really shown a ton of upside recently. I don't love
- 9:36Speaker 3: playing him into ownership. So between the two main Calvs guys,
- 9:41Speaker 3: it's gonna be Mitchell for me, even though he's more expensive,
- 9:43Speaker 3: and usually the answer to that is Mobili, But with
- 9:45Speaker 3: Mobile getting more ownership, and I think there are a
- 9:47Speaker 3: bunch of pivots around in his price range, I'm leaning
- 9:50Speaker 3: more towards Mitchell in here. I could be topped off that,
- 9:53Speaker 3: but that's kind of how I see it. And then
- 9:55Speaker 3: the next guy for me that stands out. The next
- 9:57Speaker 3: two guys that I think I might like more than
- 9:59Speaker 3: either the expensive guys are Jarrett Allen and Money Meryll.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Sam Merrill five five or more threes and four straight
- 10:08Speaker 3: games he made four threes in the game before that.
- 10:11Speaker 3: He's just seeing the hoop really well right now. I
- 10:14Speaker 3: like that At forty nine hundred in this nut spot,
- 10:16Speaker 3: I like Jarrett Allen a lot. Also at sixty three hundred.
- 10:19Speaker 3: He was playing much of the beginning of the season
- 10:21Speaker 3: with a couple broken fingers. He's talked recently about how
- 10:24Speaker 3: they have healed and he's able to actually catch the ball.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Now you're seeing it in his DK scores. He's been
- 10:29Speaker 3: a lot better recently, he's still too cheap in this
- 10:32Speaker 3: spot at sixty three hundred. So I like Mitchell, I
- 10:35Speaker 3: get the Mobile ownership, but.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I really like Merril and Alan Moore. How do you
- 10:39Speaker 1: see it? I really like that Allen show because he
- 10:43Speaker 1: does have power. Oh I was looking at fand to
- 10:45Speaker 1: it family has power forward eligibility just center on DK, however,
- 10:49Speaker 1: center is I mean, it's fine on this slate, and
- 10:52Speaker 1: bid q TA is pretty important, but I think just
- 10:56Speaker 1: the leverage it can get you on Mobile. It's not
- 10:58Speaker 1: necessarily football the two running backs. But if Jared Allen
- 11:02Speaker 1: has a spike game in rebounding, that probably comes with
- 11:05Speaker 1: Mobile not having as great of a game. And we
- 11:07Speaker 1: do see a big ownership discount right there. So I
- 11:10Speaker 1: don't hate the Jared Allen shout for two X less.
- 11:13Speaker 1: I do like d Mitch. If this game stays competitive,
- 11:15Speaker 1: it feels hard not to see him having a solid game.
- 11:19Speaker 1: But again, playing Donovan Mitchell, then it'd be harder to
- 11:22Speaker 1: spend on MAXI or you just have to if you
- 11:25Speaker 1: plug in too many pieces or too many expensive pieces,
- 11:27Speaker 1: in this game and then Beat and Paul George or
- 11:30Speaker 1: just one of them are out. It can box you
- 11:32Speaker 1: out of some stuff. Now, granted, more value opens up,
- 11:35Speaker 1: but just at the point guard position. Oh his shooting guard.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I take that back, Yeah, I mean I think there
- 11:42Speaker 1: would be enough value where you can plug in a
- 11:44Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell. I don't want to go overboard, like I
- 11:46Speaker 1: don't want to play Keyante and d Mitch. I don't
- 11:49Speaker 1: want to play Lori marken In. I don't think I
- 11:51Speaker 1: don't want too many spends in this first game, because
- 11:54Speaker 1: I do want to have some flexibility and spend up
- 11:57Speaker 1: options with the very important news that we have like Kawhi,
- 12:00Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram and BPG Like, I think some of those
- 12:04Speaker 1: Toronto spends, especially MAXI if both or even won a
- 12:08Speaker 1: PGM beat open up, like that's the priority I'd want
- 12:10Speaker 1: to get to.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. So I feel like kind of
- 12:14Speaker 3: both sides of this so on one hand, like Cleveland's
- 12:17Speaker 3: getting so much ownership, where part of me is just
- 12:20Speaker 3: like man, no one's gonna account for the late news.
- 12:22Speaker 3: As far as the Cleveland ownership goes, then all account
- 12:25Speaker 3: for the late news. And I just won't load up
- 12:27Speaker 3: on Cleveland because everyone's loading up on Cleveland.
- 12:29Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense to me.
- 12:30Speaker 3: But the other side of it is no one's playing
- 12:32Speaker 3: Utah really Yeah, like marketing is getting a little bit
- 12:35Speaker 3: of ownership but nothing crazy at all, and like no
- 12:38Speaker 3: one else is getting any ownership after that, So that
- 12:41Speaker 3: kind of like that point goes for naught when you
- 12:44Speaker 3: talk about Utah. So I see both sides of it.
- 12:47Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about you. You're really
- 12:50Speaker 3: spending on them. They're not cheap at all. The guys
- 12:53Speaker 3: you want market in eighty eighty five hundred nurkic seven
- 12:56Speaker 3: k kyante George is like eighty four hundred eighty four
- 13:00Speaker 3: to eighty six hundred somewhere around there. So like you're
- 13:03Speaker 3: paying for these guys. There's a lot of opportunity costs there.
- 13:06Speaker 1: That said, I think.
- 13:07Speaker 3: There's a lot of merit in running it back with
- 13:09Speaker 3: a Utah guy or two if you're playing Mitchell and
- 13:12Speaker 3: another Cleveland guy, because you certainly want Utah to keep
- 13:15Speaker 3: it competitive, and at Cleveland's price tags, you probably need
- 13:19Speaker 3: Uta to be semi competitive. So yeah, I think this
- 13:22Speaker 3: is a little bit of a tough nut to crack.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Just because we don't know the late news yet, which
- 13:27Speaker 3: is often an NBA just it's hard to know exactly
- 13:30Speaker 3: what to do with this game without having any of
- 13:31Speaker 3: that like news.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and we very well might get like these first
- 13:36Speaker 1: two geate like and these are important, Like I'm not
- 13:38Speaker 1: as worried about this Dallas Brooklyn stuff just because I'm
- 13:40Speaker 1: not expecting to get it with it being an hour later,
- 13:43Speaker 1: but within a thirty minute window, like assuming we get
- 13:45Speaker 1: all of the Philly Toronto dude and they're all in,
- 13:48Speaker 1: then I would definitely like, can you hear me? I
- 13:51Speaker 1: just want to make sure you can hear me? Are
- 13:54Speaker 1: you frozen? Matt Am I frozen?
- 13:59Speaker 3: Oh?
- 13:59Speaker 1: Scared not? Let me let me know and check here
- 14:03Speaker 1: you on my end? All right, you hear you? You
- 14:06Speaker 1: hear me? Am?
- 14:06Speaker 2: I in?
- 14:06Speaker 1: All right? I think you guys can hear me. I
- 14:09Speaker 1: thought I just saw you frozen and I was worried,
- 14:11Speaker 1: worried if it was Am I am?
- 14:12Speaker 3: I back now, I got you, I got you now, Okay, cool,
- 14:16Speaker 3: I'm worried.
- 14:16Speaker 1: So if we get the news on and beat MPG
- 14:19Speaker 1: all these guys at seven thirty that are in, I'm
- 14:21Speaker 1: a lot more inclined than to play the Utah stuff
- 14:24Speaker 1: and just hope this game stays competitive. Then I wouldn't
- 14:26Speaker 1: care playing d Mitch and Keyante George. Uh, all right,
- 14:29Speaker 1: thank you, Reo. Use of Nurkic is my favorite Utah
- 14:33Speaker 1: spot though, because again I don't think center is very
- 14:36Speaker 1: good on this slate. He's been playing thirty one thirty
- 14:40Speaker 1: two minutes. He's been really really good in those minutes
- 14:42Speaker 1: as well, and the usage just been higher than I
- 14:44Speaker 1: really expected with the Kyante with the Lori marketing. I mean,
- 14:48Speaker 1: it's sitting at about like twenty three percent. If you're
- 14:50Speaker 1: giving me thirty one thirty two minutes he has to play,
- 14:53Speaker 1: I think those minutes. With how big Cleveland is, if
- 14:56Speaker 1: this game stays competitive, I think Nurkic could be in
- 14:58Speaker 1: for a very solid game. He'd be my favorites. Again,
- 15:01Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about that center position. Allen seems
- 15:04Speaker 1: pretty contrarian. Other centers getting some ownership are like Claxton, Gafford.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Maybe a little Danny Wools shows you.
- 15:15Speaker 3: That shows you right there, like how weak center is.
- 15:17Speaker 3: When the first guys you list are Claxton and whoever
- 15:20Speaker 3: else you in Gaffer, you.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Know for sure so I think I think Nurkis is
- 15:24Speaker 1: actually a pretty solid play on this lay Tim and
- 15:26Speaker 1: Allen not getting too much ownership at center. I don't
- 15:29Speaker 1: even know if I believe this twenty four percent any
- 15:32Speaker 1: Lenon Lowri or Kiante, if you were spending up for Utah, Like,
- 15:36Speaker 1: if this game stays competitive, who do you think it's
- 15:39Speaker 1: on the back of more?
- 15:40Speaker 3: I think in that with that question, I always leaned
- 15:43Speaker 3: Kyante just because I feel like his upside is higher.
- 15:47Speaker 3: But you know, I like the idea of game stacking
- 15:51Speaker 3: this game and playing you know a bunch of these guys. Again,
- 15:54Speaker 3: it goes back to the problem being the price tags,
- 15:56Speaker 3: because once you play Mitchell Mobley like, then if you're
- 16:00Speaker 3: playing Kyante and or marking in like, then you're really
- 16:04Speaker 3: boxed out at any of the other good plays on
- 16:05Speaker 3: this slate. I will say, though it's only a four
- 16:08Speaker 3: game slate, this game has a crazy high total. There
- 16:11Speaker 3: are worlds where like this game goes nuts and then
- 16:15Speaker 3: the other three games just aren't good at all, and
- 16:17Speaker 3: there's just pieces that you want from them. So I
- 16:20Speaker 3: could see a scenario where like a game stack or
- 16:22Speaker 3: five pieces some six pieces from this game really plays
- 16:26Speaker 3: out well if you talk and be competitive, and if
- 16:28Speaker 3: I'm playing Utah, I love the Nurkic call him and
- 16:31Speaker 3: Allen really look good to me here.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I like it. And yeah, you're Sam Merril shout and
- 16:34Speaker 1: he's gonna be unowned. But yeah, guard Ford eligibility last
- 16:38Speaker 1: three games twenty nine thirty three thirty one DK points.
- 16:42Speaker 1: We know he's always been a sniper. If he gets
- 16:44Speaker 1: hot from deep, which he definitely has been lately, and
- 16:47Speaker 1: they'll get him plenty of looks. Rio talks about Utah
- 16:49Speaker 1: being bad against the three bet against everywhere, it seems,
- 16:51Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that Sam Merril's shout very interesting
- 16:54Speaker 1: on a four game slate.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Yeah, you're kind of like paying up a little bit
- 16:57Speaker 3: to be contrariing there. The sticker shock at a forty
- 17:00Speaker 3: nine dollars, Merrill is going to hit some people, but
- 17:02Speaker 3: he's gotten there a bunch recently and this is another
- 17:05Speaker 3: good spot for him to get there.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Yep, we'll keep it rolling to the next game on
- 17:09Speaker 1: the slate. Philadelphia seventy six ers three and a half
- 17:12Speaker 1: point favorites over the Toronto Raptors two twenty and a
- 17:15Speaker 1: half total in this one. Injuries on the Toronto side,
- 17:18Speaker 1: no RJ. Barrett, no Yaka Pertle, no Jacobe Walter, and
- 17:22Speaker 1: then Brandon Ingram's questionable. So again right there like quickly
- 17:25Speaker 1: and Barnes would look really really strong, probably would be
- 17:29Speaker 1: higher own if we get this news like before Cleveland
- 17:32Speaker 1: and Utah and people have time to adjust. I think
- 17:34Speaker 1: two of the Chalkier guys probably on the slate, which
- 17:36Speaker 1: would lower that first game ownership a little bit. Same
- 17:39Speaker 1: can be said on the Philly side at bead Paul
- 17:42Speaker 1: George questionable. If those guys are both out, you will
- 17:46Speaker 1: see Edgecombe, Tyree, Sma, Si Drummond like you'll get some
- 17:52Speaker 1: value on this Philly side. Now, even if just one
- 17:55Speaker 1: of them are out, I'm curious. I'll throw it to
- 17:57Speaker 1: you on that question. Let's say it's just Paul George out.
- 18:00Speaker 1: How big of a bump does embiid get if it's
- 18:01Speaker 1: just mb get, how much interest do you get in
- 18:03Speaker 1: Paul George or do you think you need both of
- 18:05Speaker 1: them to be able? So I think.
- 18:10Speaker 3: The big one is embiid right, helps everyone, But I
- 18:12Speaker 3: don't think we're playing anyone for Paul George being out
- 18:15Speaker 3: like he was out last game. He missed a bunch
- 18:17Speaker 3: early in the season. It's Embiid, right, Like Embiid is
- 18:20Speaker 3: the usage king, like the guy that's gonna eat up
- 18:22Speaker 3: all the rebounding equity, et cetera, et cetera. So like,
- 18:25Speaker 3: certainly they'll everyone will look better if Paul George's out,
- 18:28Speaker 3: But for me at least, and it might be different
- 18:29Speaker 3: for other people, the big one's EMBIID because then also
- 18:32Speaker 3: then you sort of unlock Drummond, you get to other
- 18:35Speaker 3: pieces or I don't think Paul George unlocks.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Anything makes sense any What else do you like in
- 18:42Speaker 1: this game? Just talking through it, I don't know why
- 18:44Speaker 1: you clicked on this next game for phild No you.
- 18:46Speaker 3: I thought I froze again for a second, so you
- 18:48Speaker 3: kind of tweaked me out, But I'm glad that I didn't.
- 18:50Speaker 3: So yeah, So from this game, the Toronto side is
- 18:53Speaker 3: obviously gonna look really, really good because we got all
- 18:55Speaker 3: those guys out. So the first guy that I look
- 18:58Speaker 3: at that's been good recently that I think stands out
- 19:00Speaker 3: as probably the top value play at least right now,
- 19:03Speaker 3: is going to be Jamal shed coming off a game
- 19:05Speaker 3: winner in this very same spot against Philly. He looks
- 19:08Speaker 3: really really good at forty four hundred, not priced up
- 19:11Speaker 3: for his current role with you know RJ. Barrett, et
- 19:14Speaker 3: cetera out, So you know brandon Ingram's missed the past
- 19:17Speaker 3: two games. He's questionable again. Shed and all these guys
- 19:20Speaker 3: that talk about are gonna look better if Ingram's out
- 19:22Speaker 3: because Brandon Ingram's another guy that's gonna eat up a
- 19:25Speaker 3: lot of usage, shot volume, et cetera. So we start
- 19:28Speaker 3: with Shed. Scottie Barnes, I think looks like a very
- 19:32Speaker 3: fine you know, spend medium, spend up, not even that expensive.
- 19:36Speaker 3: He's getting about the same ownership as Mobley. I think
- 19:40Speaker 3: that I'm fine playing either of them. I like the
- 19:43Speaker 3: Barnes pivot off a mobile. I expect mobiley to be
- 19:46Speaker 3: more popular. I don't think you have to play either
- 19:48Speaker 3: of them. I think Quickly looks good at sixty eight hundred,
- 19:52Speaker 3: will look really good if Ingram's out. So yeah, like
- 19:56Speaker 3: this game doesn't have the total that the first game does.
- 19:59Speaker 3: None of the games on this slate do. But fantasy
- 20:01Speaker 3: points come in all shapes and sizes, Like you don't
- 20:04Speaker 3: need necessarily need points to get there. Games can get
- 20:08Speaker 3: can get real ugly. Fantasy points can be gotten that way.
- 20:10Speaker 3: So just because again these games don't have a crazy
- 20:13Speaker 3: eye total, I wouldn't shy away from maybe going over
- 20:16Speaker 3: on some of these other games and under on the
- 20:18Speaker 3: Cleveland game. Potentially, don't saying not saying you have to
- 20:21Speaker 3: do that, but I think it's in the cards. So
- 20:23Speaker 3: again I think we have to wait on the Philly
- 20:25Speaker 3: News to really know what we're gonna want to play there.
- 20:27Speaker 3: A little bit of the same for Toronto, you know,
- 20:30Speaker 3: we know most of it except for Ingram, but definitely
- 20:32Speaker 3: a game I think you're gonna want exposures.
- 20:34Speaker 1: To someone get I don't even know if you were.
- 20:45Speaker 1: You were talking. Someone called, It went through my headphones,
- 20:47Speaker 1: say something. Can you hear me again? All right? Are yeah?
- 20:51Speaker 1: Someone calls, So the headphones went to the phone. I
- 20:53Speaker 1: thought you were the worst. No, no, sorry, I didn't even
- 20:56Speaker 1: know that you didn't hear me. No, you're good. But
- 21:00Speaker 1: I do know for sure is Jamal Shehed will be
- 21:04Speaker 1: maybe third highest zone on the slate right now, and
- 21:07Speaker 1: then for sure if we get brandon Ingram out probably
- 21:11Speaker 1: becomes the highest zone and that does take off a
- 21:14Speaker 1: point guard spot, which again we talked about the Tyree
- 21:17Speaker 1: SMAXI stuff. I still think. I mean, Jamal Shed looks
- 21:20Speaker 1: like one of the better value plays regardless of the outcome,
- 21:23Speaker 1: on a slate that I don't think there's too much
- 21:25Speaker 1: strong value, Like he's projected better than Ryan Demhard, who
- 21:29Speaker 1: also is a solid value play for three hundred cheaper.
- 21:32Speaker 1: And it seems like the other one that people are
- 21:33Speaker 1: gonna want to play is Danny Woolf. That is power
- 21:36Speaker 1: forward center eligibility though so Shed looks very strong in
- 21:39Speaker 1: that aspect, and I think it was on the Show
- 21:42Speaker 1: with You last week we talked about Colin Murray Boyles
- 21:45Speaker 1: or we a little bit, not too much, but he
- 21:47Speaker 1: went off for like fifty two. He was the leverage
- 21:49Speaker 1: off of Paul Reid. Could you get to any Murray
- 21:52Speaker 1: Boyles in this spot still showing low ownership.
- 21:54Speaker 3: I think he definitely could. I mean he's shown the
- 21:56Speaker 3: upside there fifty one hundred again price bag increasing, But
- 22:00Speaker 3: with these rookies, there's so much unknown here, Like fifty
- 22:04Speaker 3: one hundred looks like a lot because he's been low
- 22:06Speaker 3: four k's recently or for most of his career, most
- 22:09Speaker 3: of the season, but what if next year he's like
- 22:11Speaker 3: an eight K player. And fifty one hundred is like
- 22:13Speaker 3: an absolute steal for him. We do not know think
- 22:16Speaker 3: there's a lot of merit in just playing off that upside,
- 22:18Speaker 3: the unknown upside that is. And as far as Shed
- 22:20Speaker 3: goes like, yeah, he's gonna be real popular, don't love that.
- 22:24Speaker 3: But as far as like NBA and popularity and chalk
- 22:26Speaker 3: plays go, again, this isn't like an all size fits
- 22:29Speaker 3: one or all yes size.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Fits all rule.
- 22:32Speaker 3: But generally, when you get these really really popular value plays,
- 22:37Speaker 3: I think those guys are much more hard to get
- 22:39Speaker 3: away from than the really popular expensive plays, simply because
- 22:43Speaker 3: when you've got really popular expensive plays, there's usually pivots
- 22:46Speaker 3: in those guys' price range to get away from that
- 22:49Speaker 3: are also really good players. When you've got guys like
- 22:52Speaker 3: Shed at forty four hundred, you're just not gonna have
- 22:54Speaker 3: as many pivots in that price range that are going
- 22:56Speaker 3: to project at nearly the same rate as he does.
- 22:59Speaker 3: So I don't think you absolutely have to play Shed
- 23:02Speaker 3: if you're playing one fifty, I wouldn't play him in
- 23:04Speaker 3: all one fifty. But if you're playing one lineup, I
- 23:06Speaker 3: think you just plug him in and move along.
- 23:08Speaker 1: If Drummonds out would you have any interest in Drummond
- 23:11Speaker 1: at four or five or Bona at four to one.
- 23:14Speaker 3: Yeah, So if mbat's out, I think we definitely have
- 23:17Speaker 3: to take a look at Drummond at four or five.
- 23:20Speaker 3: You know, Bona's going to eat into him a little bit.
- 23:22Speaker 3: And I don't think Drummond's going to be a must play,
- 23:25Speaker 3: But that's a really really cheap price point for him,
- 23:28Speaker 3: And that's that price point is not accounting for mb
- 23:30Speaker 3: being out.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Yeah, and at a week center position like we talked
- 23:34Speaker 1: about as well, you could get more value there then
- 23:36Speaker 1: you could spend up on a Tyres maxie maybe if
- 23:39Speaker 1: we get the news, like you could more game stack
- 23:41Speaker 1: the first game, because you know, you have some more
- 23:44Speaker 1: value in this game with Drummond. Obviously Shed's already a
- 23:47Speaker 1: strong value. I wonder also like if we do get
- 23:50Speaker 1: a PG and Drumming out, like Grinds would get a bump,
- 23:54Speaker 1: Barlow would get a bump, Ubra would get a bump. Now,
- 23:57Speaker 1: I'd have to see what the projection and ownership is
- 23:59Speaker 1: relati of the other guys on the slates, But that'd
- 24:02Speaker 1: be two huge guys, I mean obviously, and beat a
- 24:05Speaker 1: ton of usage PG solid amount of usage as well.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Tyres would be like the the main guy that I'd
- 24:11Speaker 1: want exposure to would become Chalky. But maybe that is
- 24:14Speaker 1: more intriguing to stack up that first game if you
- 24:17Speaker 1: want to fade at Chalk Max. See there's plenty of
- 24:19Speaker 1: spend ups in the first game. Hope it stays close,
- 24:21Speaker 1: and if it does, I think it's underprojected a little
- 24:24Speaker 1: bit by the market. Yeah, we're not playing. We're not
- 24:27Speaker 1: playing yesterday's it's Daily Fantasy Sports DFS today. So if Drummond,
- 24:33Speaker 1: if it beats out, it's forty five hundred. Yeah, exactly.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Even at forty five hundred, he's almost in the territory.
- 24:40Speaker 3: When i FM beats in, he starts to become and
- 24:42Speaker 3: play like he's getting close to that number. When you
- 24:45Speaker 3: start to get the low four k Drummond, you start
- 24:47Speaker 3: to just have so many outs for him to get
- 24:49Speaker 3: there because he's such a good fantasy producer. I don't
- 24:52Speaker 3: know this off the top of my head, and it's
- 24:54Speaker 3: hard for me to look up while we're on the show.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Do you have any idea that you probably don't either,
- 24:58Speaker 3: Maybe someone in chat does. The last time embiid missed
- 25:01Speaker 3: was because I think it's gonna go ahead.
- 25:04Speaker 1: I think it might have been yesterday, and then we
- 25:07Speaker 1: saw nineteen minutes for Drummond thirty two for if I'm
- 25:11Speaker 1: seeing this right, Yeah, I see that now, Okay, So yeah,
- 25:14Speaker 1: but I don't know what happened within the two uh,
- 25:18Speaker 1: Like Bona played so many more minutes. Now I wasn't
- 25:20Speaker 1: in like in tune of why he played more minutes.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Like if I mean, if that's the split again, I
- 25:26Speaker 1: go based off of like Projection always has that updated
- 25:29Speaker 1: and accounted for. But I mean, if it's thirty two nineteen,
- 25:33Speaker 1: obviously Bona is the guy that pops. I'm not sure
- 25:37Speaker 1: before the last time I was trying to find an
- 25:39Speaker 1: embid missed and I can't right now, Like if we
- 25:41Speaker 1: just go back to like last month, mid December, when
- 25:44Speaker 1: thirty two minutes, twenty three minutes even sixteen, like he's
- 25:47Speaker 1: a fantasy point per fantasy monster point per minute monster
- 25:51Speaker 1: when he gets the minutes, but Bona wasn't nearly as
- 25:53Speaker 1: involved back in December when that happened. So yeah, I
- 25:58Speaker 1: want to see it starts.
- 25:59Speaker 3: And I know why that kind of slipped through the
- 26:02Speaker 3: cracks because I covered yesterday's slate. But Philly and Toronto
- 26:05Speaker 3: weren't even on the main slate yesterday, So that's how
- 26:08Speaker 3: I missed that Embid missed yesterday, and I am I'm
- 26:12Speaker 3: with you, I'm with the chat in like hard to
- 26:15Speaker 3: trust Drummond certainly after last night because he only played
- 26:18Speaker 3: twenty minutes and Bona. You know, the split was not
- 26:22Speaker 3: what people thought it would be.
- 26:23Speaker 1: But I also think that might have just.
- 26:24Speaker 3: Been a one game scenario. And I do think that
- 26:26Speaker 3: if Embad's out and Drummonds starting at forty five hundred,
- 26:29Speaker 3: he's very difficult to get away from for me.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm trying to look. So he started, you
- 26:35Speaker 1: played six minutes stints, didn't really do too much. But
- 26:40Speaker 1: then he started the second quarter as well, which is
- 26:43Speaker 1: what you want to see. The stint to start the
- 26:45Speaker 1: third quarter was a little shorter, it was only five minutes,
- 26:49Speaker 1: and then he just started the fourth quarter which was
- 26:52Speaker 1: like four minutes. Then he came out right away. I mean,
- 26:55Speaker 1: maybe Bona was just better. I'm trying to see because
- 26:59Speaker 1: at Bona and uh, Drummond didn't share one minute on
- 27:04Speaker 1: the court. From what I'm seeing, Yeah, they didn't do one.
- 27:09Speaker 1: So I definitely wouldn't play him together if Drummond starts, though,
- 27:13Speaker 1: I still think projections are gonna show and that Drummond
- 27:16Speaker 1: looks like a stronger play. But maybe in a four
- 27:18Speaker 1: game slate, Bona is an interesting pivot depending on what
- 27:21Speaker 1: Drummond's ownership does get to. Yeah, people are saying Drummond
- 27:25Speaker 1: was terrible last night. That sort of looked like on
- 27:26Speaker 1: popcorn machine. Yeah, and you do have the risk of
- 27:29Speaker 1: the game though. Yeah, it went to ot and you
- 27:31Speaker 1: do have the risk.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Like Toronto, especially without peerl it doesn't have like a
- 27:35Speaker 3: typical big man like Bona is a little bit more,
- 27:38Speaker 3: you know, tweener ish, like.
- 27:40Speaker 1: He's also a kind of big big So like I.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Personally feel like that was just a one game scenario
- 27:46Speaker 3: and Drummond just didn't play well or whatever. They played
- 27:49Speaker 3: better with him off the court, And I am like,
- 27:52Speaker 3: if mbad's out, I like Drummond at forty five hundred,
- 27:54Speaker 3: But I'll put it like this because of the unknown
- 27:58Speaker 3: there with how know Bonus certainly back and in the
- 28:01Speaker 3: mix to play a lot of minutes. I won't let
- 28:04Speaker 3: embid possibly possibly being.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Out stop me from playing Allen or Nurkic. I agree
- 28:10Speaker 1: with that. I agree with that for sure, Rio is
- 28:12Speaker 1: saying that Bono has already had a drumming lately, even
- 28:15Speaker 1: overlap in minutes with Embids sometimes, so that makes sense.
- 28:19Speaker 1: He didn't overlap with Drummond obviously, which I just looked
- 28:22Speaker 1: at it too, But with mb that means for sure
- 28:25Speaker 1: in the court a little bit.
- 28:26Speaker 3: So I do feel like also that that is a
- 28:29Speaker 3: little bit volatile as well though, because yeah, Bona had
- 28:32Speaker 3: moved ahead of Embiid as far as like when mbat
- 28:35Speaker 3: is healthy, but when embiid is out, like, do they
- 28:38Speaker 3: still want that like drumming inside? Maybe not now, but
- 28:41Speaker 3: maybe I don't know.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I'm just looking at a small one game sample.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Those two did not play or overlap any minutes, and
- 28:49Speaker 1: Popcorn Machine only has four guys that played in OT,
- 28:52Speaker 1: so I wonder if it was Bona that got the
- 28:54Speaker 1: OT run. It's just saying Edgecombe, Grimes, maxi Ubre. I
- 28:58Speaker 1: wonder who that fifth is, but it clearly he wasn't drumming.
- 29:01Speaker 1: I might just be off the situation.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Knowing that Drummond has real upside at forty five hundred,
- 29:05Speaker 3: doesn't seem like a lot of other people are gonna
- 29:07Speaker 3: play it, So I don't think there's that much opportunity
- 29:09Speaker 3: cost in not playing it, But would anyone be surprised
- 29:13Speaker 3: if Drummond starts and puts up forty DK points tonight?
- 29:15Speaker 2: No?
- 29:16Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think we'd have spent enough time on
- 29:19Speaker 1: Drummond versus Bona. But if EM beads out, you get
- 29:22Speaker 1: value plays at the center position. I would want to
- 29:26Speaker 1: see what projections and ownership looks like anything else on
- 29:29Speaker 1: like the like just say there's no Brandon Ingram. Are
- 29:32Speaker 1: we looking at a Grady Dick and a Baje? Do
- 29:35Speaker 1: we just not even need it? With Shed? You already
- 29:39Speaker 1: mentioned Sam Merrill. Again, the value is not great on
- 29:43Speaker 1: this late assuming everyone's in, but it's the NBA. I
- 29:46Speaker 1: assume some of these Q tags will be out and
- 29:48Speaker 1: some value will open. So what any open on Toronto
- 29:50Speaker 1: If no Ingram obviously still no bear.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Well.
- 29:53Speaker 3: The other problem is not only is the value not great,
- 29:55Speaker 3: but neither are the spend up options, So like, yeah,
- 29:57Speaker 3: I feel like unless we've got really really good value,
- 30:00Speaker 3: I don't want to play it. And both ag Bajie
- 30:03Speaker 3: and Dick are pretty volatile fantasy performers, so I'm not
- 30:07Speaker 3: dying to get either of them, I guess Dick would
- 30:09Speaker 3: be the preferred option, like Boji is just not it.
- 30:13Speaker 1: Oh shay O Baji. All right, we'll keep it rolling
- 30:15Speaker 1: next game. Honest, he was Kansas, Yeah he was, Yeah,
- 30:18Speaker 1: he was. That's what I was thinking of. Right when
- 30:20Speaker 1: I see him, I always think of I knew that's
- 30:22Speaker 1: what you're thinking. All right, we'll keep it rolling next game.
- 30:25Speaker 1: On the slates, Boston Celtics and Indiana Pacers five and
- 30:28Speaker 1: that point favorites of the Celtics two twenty five and
- 30:30Speaker 1: a half total on this one. Injuries on the Boston side.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Sam Houser questionable, Jalen Brown doubtful. So we're gonna have
- 30:37Speaker 1: some popular plays in this game. No Jalen Brown, and
- 30:40Speaker 1: the Houser news is by no means like nearly the
- 30:43Speaker 1: most important on the slate. But already down Jalen Brown.
- 30:46Speaker 1: That'd be another wing, so that could open up some
- 30:48Speaker 1: minutes and some usage to go around Indiana side. Nope,
- 30:52Speaker 1: Bendings at Mather and still Andrew Demhart is questionable. That's
- 30:56Speaker 1: some pretty big news again this this seven thirty window,
- 30:59Speaker 1: very important injury news with MB and them Hard Brandon Ingram,
- 31:04Speaker 1: Paul George hoping we get the news before seven Eastern
- 31:07Speaker 1: it will make life easier. Otherwise, maybe you're a little
- 31:09Speaker 1: more inclined to backload it. At least I probably keep
- 31:11Speaker 1: ownership down a little more in the first game relative
- 31:14Speaker 1: to if all these guys were ruled in. Yeah, take
- 31:17Speaker 1: it away, just sorting by value point per dollar the
- 31:20Speaker 1: first what seven first, the eight guys are all on
- 31:25Speaker 1: the Boston side. Indiana will have very little ownership. Take
- 31:28Speaker 1: this one away.
- 31:29Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana won't have a lot of ownership. I guess
- 31:31Speaker 3: unless Andrew Nemhart's questionable again, right, he was questionable, missed
- 31:35Speaker 3: a game, then questionable played the game, and now.
- 31:37Speaker 1: He's questionable and unknown.
- 31:39Speaker 3: So certainly I think it's easy to say if he's out,
- 31:42Speaker 3: I think we just look at TJ McConnell. But as
- 31:44Speaker 3: far as the Boston side goes, to your point, the
- 31:46Speaker 3: Houserd news is important because the trickle down effect is real.
- 31:50Speaker 3: To what you were saying, If he's out, all of
- 31:52Speaker 3: a sudden, it opens up even more wing minutes with
- 31:54Speaker 3: Jalen Brown being out, so then you get guys like
- 31:57Speaker 3: Hugo Gonzalez, who's in play right now. He would look
- 32:01Speaker 3: like a much better play if Howser's ot. If Howser
- 32:03Speaker 3: is out, Jordan Walsh would look better. So pay attention
- 32:07Speaker 3: to at Houser news because I do think that those
- 32:09Speaker 3: guys would start to look pretty pretty good if he
- 32:13Speaker 3: is out. You know, it goes without saying, kind of
- 32:17Speaker 3: burying the lead that Derek White is gonna look amazing here.
- 32:20Speaker 3: Great matchup against Indiana, who is not good defensively. He's
- 32:24Speaker 3: eighty four hundred, should have the ball in his hands
- 32:26Speaker 3: a ton. I mean, you're taking out one of the
- 32:28Speaker 3: top three usage leaders in the NBA and Jalen Brown,
- 32:31Speaker 3: So it just opens up so much for Boston here.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Derek White, Peyton Pritchard, Anthony Simon's all guys that are
- 32:38Speaker 3: gonna get ownership that I'm very very interested in. I
- 32:42Speaker 3: think Indiana kind of looks like Utah here. It's like
- 32:46Speaker 3: we want a lot of Boston.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Do we want to.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Play Indiana with them? I think they look similar and
- 32:51Speaker 3: I do like some pacers here. They're all of a
- 32:54Speaker 3: sudden playing a little bit better. At won a couple
- 32:56Speaker 3: games recently after they lost like thirteen in a row,
- 32:59Speaker 3: so again talked about them hard. If he's in, he's
- 33:02Speaker 3: in play. He had a Monster Game on either yesterday
- 33:05Speaker 3: the day before, might have been yesterday Monster game. Siakam
- 33:10Speaker 3: price tag is up for him. Doesn't feel comfortable paying
- 33:12Speaker 3: eighty nine hundred, but it's not gonna feel comfortable for anyone.
- 33:15Speaker 3: So he looks like a very intriguing GPP pivot off
- 33:19Speaker 3: of the Evan Mobley Scottie Barnes of the world. Those
- 33:24Speaker 3: guys are gonna project better, certainly from a points per
- 33:27Speaker 3: dour perspective, but all of a sudden you get a
- 33:30Speaker 3: little bit of a wonky game environment here and Siakam
- 33:32Speaker 3: outscores them, and it's not gonna outsize or surprise anyone
- 33:36Speaker 3: on a one game sample size. Aaron neth Smith, who's
- 33:39Speaker 3: playing good Ball, I think I like Indiana more than
- 33:41Speaker 3: the field. They're not getting any ownership. They look like
- 33:44Speaker 3: Utah here, but their price tags are even better. So
- 33:47Speaker 3: I like Indiana more than the field. I understand why
- 33:50Speaker 3: the field is not getting to them. And then I
- 33:52Speaker 3: think Boston, it's kind of the usual suspects of Jalen
- 33:54Speaker 3: Brown being out, And then pay attention to the howser news.
- 33:58Speaker 1: I don't mind me some of them hard, but so
- 34:01Speaker 1: would you rather play him Kiante LORI like, how are you?
- 34:05Speaker 1: How are you ranking them?
- 34:07Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think on the surface, I'd rather play
- 34:10Speaker 3: one of the Utah guys, but I think there are
- 34:13Speaker 3: scenarios where like I kind of back off of Cleveland,
- 34:16Speaker 3: and if I'm playing more of this game, then I
- 34:18Speaker 3: watch Siakam there like in a one v one. I'm
- 34:21Speaker 3: with you, I think the Utah guys are more fairly priced,
- 34:25Speaker 3: Like Siakam should not be the most expensive out of
- 34:27Speaker 3: this whole crew. There's no reason for him to be.
- 34:30Speaker 3: But again, I think he'll be like the lowest owned
- 34:32Speaker 3: of all of them. And I think that again we're
- 34:36Speaker 3: talking about like a couple projection points. Again, you get
- 34:38Speaker 3: a little bit of a weird game in this Boston,
- 34:40Speaker 3: Indiana game, which wouldn't surprise me.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Then Siakam scores more.
- 34:43Speaker 3: So Yeah, I like those guys a little bit better
- 34:45Speaker 3: if I'm just like choosing a last guy in. But
- 34:48Speaker 3: I think there are certainly ways I get to Seakam
- 34:50Speaker 3: if I'm playing more of this game.
- 34:52Speaker 1: For sure, And I mean this game kind of like
- 34:54Speaker 1: Gocleck said, getting one hundred percent and ninety five percent
- 34:56Speaker 1: of Prichard and White, the two chalkiest guys on the slow.
- 35:00Speaker 1: If you sort just by ownership alone, it's really not
- 35:03Speaker 1: even close. When we're sorting by the average our ship
- 35:06Speaker 1: and nation and sabersim. And that will happen when Jalen
- 35:09Speaker 1: Brown is doubtful, I did see just got hit with
- 35:11Speaker 1: thirty five k fine, I'm still seeing doubtful for back.
- 35:14Speaker 1: If it changes, he gets a midday upgrade or whatever
- 35:17Speaker 1: it may be. Obviously the slate changes, Richard's ownership goes down,
- 35:21Speaker 1: White's ownership goes down, projection all that. But right now,
- 35:24Speaker 1: with the news we have is doubtful, we're gonna talk
- 35:26Speaker 1: about it like that. Yeah, I mean, if Howser's out
- 35:29Speaker 1: this Hugo Gonzales, then then more and more value keeps
- 35:32Speaker 1: opening up, and then you could fit the first game
- 35:35Speaker 1: if you want to go d Mitch Kante Lorie like,
- 35:38Speaker 1: you can fit whatever you want. The stud's a lot
- 35:40Speaker 1: easier that way. Again, even more value could open up
- 35:44Speaker 1: with Philly stuff as well. Can we get to any
- 35:46Speaker 1: of these Anthony Simon's cad Jordan Walsh, assuming Howser's out,
- 35:53Speaker 1: any of these guys as value plays or like pretty
- 35:56Speaker 1: much their value pivots outside of hughgo Gonzales or mid
- 36:00Speaker 1: tier pivots at the fifty two to five K. But
- 36:03Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to think of any ways
- 36:04Speaker 1: that we can not play one of Prichard White or
- 36:08Speaker 1: like who can eat into these guys where they're fifty
- 36:10Speaker 1: percent plus, I mean, were they're not on the Winner.
- 36:13Speaker 3: No, I kind of loved them all together.
- 36:14Speaker 1: But that's a good point.
- 36:15Speaker 3: Like Simon's definitely in play. I think you can play
- 36:18Speaker 3: him honestly with both of White and Pritchard because Boston
- 36:23Speaker 3: is not priced for Jalen Brown to be out, so
- 36:25Speaker 3: all these guys are too cheap. So I think you
- 36:26Speaker 3: can play like any combination of them together. But I
- 36:29Speaker 3: think really Simon's works as a pivot mostly off of Prichard.
- 36:32Speaker 3: We've seen Simon's get hot plenty times in the past.
- 36:35Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he gets hot. He's eating into,
- 36:38Speaker 3: in my opinion, mostly Pritchard. I think White is just
- 36:40Speaker 3: gonna have so much usage here it's gonna be hard
- 36:42Speaker 3: for him not to get there. Certainly, you could throw
- 36:44Speaker 3: out the same argument there though, playing Simon's and Prichard
- 36:47Speaker 3: and not playing Derek White, like not spending up on
- 36:50Speaker 3: the expensive Celtic. There's certainly merit for that also, So
- 36:53Speaker 3: Simon's definitely has a role on this slate. He doesn't
- 36:56Speaker 3: look as good as Prichard or White, but hardly anyone's
- 37:00Speaker 3: going to look as good as Richard or White. So
- 37:02Speaker 3: I think mostly you're playing Simon's with those guys, but
- 37:05Speaker 3: I think he works as a tournament pivot off of them.
- 37:08Speaker 3: Cada in play, but just nothing changes with Kada for me,
- 37:11Speaker 3: So he would be in play here with brown in.
- 37:13Speaker 3: He's in play with Brown out. But I think I
- 37:15Speaker 3: like those other centers we talked about more.
- 37:18Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, I mean it's not very often
- 37:20Speaker 1: you see a sixty nine hundred dollars guy or projected
- 37:23Speaker 1: for forty and a half DK points obviously going to
- 37:26Speaker 1: lead to a lot of ownership. I'd be more willing
- 37:27Speaker 1: to fade Derek White if picking just because of that
- 37:31Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars difference. And yeah, but like were talking
- 37:34Speaker 1: about Lori Keionte, just two examples we keep going back to,
- 37:37Speaker 1: but showing a lot less ownership right in that same
- 37:39Speaker 1: price range as well. Anthony Simon, he's a hooper. Minutes
- 37:43Speaker 1: are down. He has to be efficient with a shooting.
- 37:46Speaker 1: But yeah, he definitely has that ability, So I like
- 37:49Speaker 1: that call a little bit as well. Point guard shooting
- 37:51Speaker 1: guard eligibility. And I will say I should say, if
- 37:54Speaker 1: Sam Houser plays, I think he's a very strong play
- 37:57Speaker 1: thirty eight hundred. I mean he probably shooting six seven
- 38:00Speaker 1: in this game. Very good price take there, Boston. It's
- 38:04Speaker 1: hard to ignore these guys, that's for sure. Yeah, really
- 38:07Speaker 1: hard to ignore. I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, no,
- 38:09Speaker 1: I was gonna keep moving anything else in that game. Nah.
- 38:12Speaker 3: I was just kind of agreeing with your point, Like,
- 38:14Speaker 3: really hard to get away from this game. And Howser
- 38:17Speaker 3: definitely in play because I think his ownership is probably
- 38:19Speaker 3: a little bit newtered with the questionable attack all day.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that as well. Last game of
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- 38:40Speaker 1: The Brooklyn Nets and the Dallas Mavericks tip off for
- 38:43Speaker 1: the late game and late game for the DFS lates,
- 38:46Speaker 1: there's still is two later games if you are playing
- 38:48Speaker 1: the Knights Layton showdown, but three net point favorites other
- 38:51Speaker 1: MAVs two nineteen and a half total in this one.
- 38:53Speaker 1: Injuries on the Dallas side PJ. Washington, Brandon Williams doubtful,
- 38:58Speaker 1: no ad Daniel Gafford questionable that gaff for again, I'm
- 39:03Speaker 1: not backloaded because this game is an hour after the
- 39:06Speaker 1: other three games. Like I'm not gonna try and guess
- 39:09Speaker 1: wrong or whatever and then be screwed. But that gaff
- 39:12Speaker 1: for news is pretty important on this late with already
- 39:16Speaker 1: down some big guys in the front core PJ obviously
- 39:20Speaker 1: no Lively and Anthony Davis Brooklyn side. What no Cam Thomas,
- 39:25Speaker 1: no Igor Demon And that is all I'm seeing there? Yeah,
- 39:29Speaker 1: I guess just before you even break down the game,
- 39:31Speaker 1: are you kind of seeing that the same thing where
- 39:32Speaker 1: you can't like you're not really worrying about these qu'es
- 39:35Speaker 1: tags as much because you have no wiggle room assuming
- 39:38Speaker 1: we don't get it, or how are you handling I
- 39:40Speaker 1: guess the gaffer Q tag and then break down the game.
- 39:42Speaker 3: No, I think that's I think you're one hundred percent
- 39:45Speaker 3: right here. It's not only that we don't have a
- 39:47Speaker 3: lot of wiggle room. It's also that's just like I
- 39:50Speaker 3: don't see a ton that's gonna open up that we're
- 39:53Speaker 3: gonna like be dying to roster no matter how you
- 39:55Speaker 3: look at it, outside of like maybe Moosa cisea if
- 40:00Speaker 3: Gafford's out, But like that seems pretty flimsy in a
- 40:04Speaker 3: state with other at least good centers we've talked about,
- 40:08Speaker 3: So like, yeah, like I'm definitely not setting my rosters
- 40:13Speaker 3: like in with some delusions of grandeur that there's gonna
- 40:16Speaker 3: be tons of spots opening up from this game. I
- 40:18Speaker 3: do think that it's worth paying attention to, and as
- 40:21Speaker 3: you said, the Gaffer news is important, but I just
- 40:24Speaker 3: I think the other three games offer so much in
- 40:27Speaker 3: terms of potential value that it's really really hard to
- 40:30Speaker 3: hold back roster spots.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Assuming that and beads in and we don't have any
- 40:34Speaker 1: more center value open up. How crazy do you think
- 40:37Speaker 1: it is to play or I guess how many teams
- 40:39Speaker 1: would you need to play? Like a CC just plug
- 40:41Speaker 1: them in at thirty three hundred, And I'd more kind
- 40:46Speaker 1: of be wanting to do it in the util because
- 40:48Speaker 1: I think then you can just go one hundred more's
- 40:51Speaker 1: d Russ and he at least projects for five points more.
- 40:54Speaker 1: So I guess I'm kind of talking myself into a
- 40:56Speaker 1: little more.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Let's see, i'd probably personally, yeah, i'd want like a
- 41:00Speaker 3: two for two maybe like that I could stop to
- 41:03Speaker 3: but I do think that to your point, like there
- 41:05Speaker 3: are outs d Ross, ste Low, and Powell.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, if they're in the util, I don't
- 41:12Speaker 1: hate it because he's already going to be super low
- 41:14Speaker 1: and in centers. And again, if you're playing him at util,
- 41:17Speaker 1: you like you're already playing another center, which is limits
- 41:20Speaker 1: the appeal a little bit. But man like if you
- 41:24Speaker 1: if center bus which very very well could on this
- 41:26Speaker 1: late and you get no Gafford, I think see, I
- 41:29Speaker 1: think you'd want to have CC in your lineup at
- 41:31Speaker 1: thirty three hundred, again assuming and beats in, but the
- 41:35Speaker 1: risk probably just outweighs the reward.
- 41:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Like the way you're putting it,
- 41:41Speaker 3: You're like you're gonna need say if the efforts out.
- 41:44Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I do agree with you.
- 41:47Speaker 1: I do agree with your premise at the ownership. At ownership,
- 41:51Speaker 1: I love it you would like you would love to
- 41:53Speaker 1: have it by no means would you need it.
- 41:55Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how it put it, and I could.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Marcus Robinson like, I'm like, any time you're getting a
- 42:00Speaker 1: wide receiver too at point seven percent or like three percent.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's news driven obviously, but there
- 42:08Speaker 1: just always will be way under owned relative to what
- 42:11Speaker 1: they would be owned if they had if you had
- 42:13Speaker 1: that news.
- 42:14Speaker 3: Exactly to the point that you're making. If we found
- 42:16Speaker 3: out right now that Gafford we're out, ssay would be
- 42:19Speaker 3: much higher on than if we find out Gafferd's out
- 42:22Speaker 3: at seven thirty or whatever. So just because of that,
- 42:26Speaker 3: I think it does make sense to potentially do exactly
- 42:29Speaker 3: as you're saying now. I don't think you're starting your
- 42:32Speaker 3: lineups like putting CISA in at utail, but I do
- 42:35Speaker 3: think that that's a viable route, and like I would
- 42:38Speaker 3: want CSA based on everything we've said, if Gafferd's out
- 42:40Speaker 3: and Gafford is so volatile, not going to be surprised
- 42:43Speaker 3: if he's out. So that's a really really good point.
- 42:47Speaker 3: I'm glad we talked that out because it makes me
- 42:49Speaker 3: like doing that even more for the main Dallas guys.
- 42:52Speaker 3: I think it's kind of the usual suspects. We saw
- 42:54Speaker 3: this last game Cooper Flag eight k uh. He busted
- 42:59Speaker 3: last game fifteen or sixteen Fantasy points. He was like
- 43:03Speaker 3: ninety percent in the higher dollar tournaments that day. I'm
- 43:06Speaker 3: sure he'll be really really high owned today. Hard to
- 43:08Speaker 3: get away from him. You can roster him at five
- 43:10Speaker 3: different spots, you know, no ad, so the usage is
- 43:13Speaker 3: gonna be there. He can fill it up in a
- 43:14Speaker 3: lot of a lot of different avenues. So Cooper Flag
- 43:18Speaker 3: looks like the top Dallas piece. And then you get
- 43:20Speaker 3: to all the Klake Thompson, Max Christie's of the world.
- 43:24Speaker 3: You know, all these guys are going to be in play.
- 43:25Speaker 3: It's hard to know. It's kind of hard to differentiate
- 43:28Speaker 3: between these guys, like before the slate starts. But I
- 43:31Speaker 3: think if you're playing one fifty, you want exposure to
- 43:33Speaker 3: all of them. If you're playing minimal lineups to kind
- 43:35Speaker 3: of just choose your favorites from the Brooklyn side. I
- 43:39Speaker 3: see Reo has already thrown it out in chat. Danny
- 43:41Speaker 3: Wolf point forward night. Yeah, I think he's gonna have
- 43:44Speaker 3: the ball in his hands a ton here. Four k
- 43:46Speaker 3: really cheap price point for a guy that again can
- 43:49Speaker 3: fill it up in a lot of different areas. So
- 43:51Speaker 3: I think Wolf does look really really good. I don't
- 43:55Speaker 3: love like the forty or forty five or thirty five
- 43:58Speaker 3: percent ownership depending on where you're looking that he's projecting for,
- 44:01Speaker 3: but I like it a lot more than the same
- 44:04Speaker 3: ownership Nick Klaxon is projecting for. So I'm willing to
- 44:07Speaker 3: eat the Wolf Chalk at that price point, willing to
- 44:10Speaker 3: get away from Claxton at that price point. Powell, I'm
- 44:14Speaker 3: kind of indifferent towards like, if you need the value, fine,
- 44:17Speaker 3: I doubt he like breaks the slate Noah Clowney. I
- 44:20Speaker 3: feel similarly towards Michael Porter Junior. I'm interested in like
- 44:24Speaker 3: he's a spend up option that I don't think it's
- 44:26Speaker 3: a ton of love. I think he comes in, you know,
- 44:28Speaker 3: probably fifteen twenty percent owned, and I certainly think there
- 44:32Speaker 3: are routes to him getting there. This game can is
- 44:36Speaker 3: likely to stay competitive. Neither of these teams are very good,
- 44:38Speaker 3: and he's been really really good this year. So eighty
- 44:41Speaker 3: seven hundred again a little bit of sticker shock, but
- 44:44Speaker 3: his play has been deserved of it. So I like
- 44:47Speaker 3: Porter Junior here as kind of the alpha who's gonna
- 44:50Speaker 3: have the ball in his hands a ton. This game
- 44:52Speaker 3: is ugly, though, Like I don't exactly know what to
- 44:54Speaker 3: make of this game, Terrence Man, There's like so many
- 44:58Speaker 3: plays that are okay to good in this game that
- 45:01Speaker 3: I don't love any of them except Wolf.
- 45:04Speaker 1: I agree, I don't like Cooper. Flag would be my
- 45:07Speaker 1: favorite outside of Wolf because I but like, yeah, he's
- 45:10Speaker 1: gonna get ownership. You're painting a real price because I
- 45:12Speaker 1: struggle with Clay Tom. I mean I said it, I
- 45:15Speaker 1: think the one night and then he knuked, but then
- 45:17Speaker 1: he did what he usually did the game after, like
- 45:19Speaker 1: right wide range of outcomes. But when he's getting some ownership,
- 45:23Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe just the seven percent ownership. It
- 45:26Speaker 1: depends like if all these Q tags are ruled in,
- 45:29Speaker 1: people are gonna go to Dallas, gonna go to Clay,
- 45:33Speaker 1: gonna go to some Christy, a little Ryan Demhard, Like
- 45:35Speaker 1: we just don't have really great value on this shed
- 45:38Speaker 1: and it's Danny Wolf and pretty much after that it
- 45:41Speaker 1: seems like nobody. So people will go to these guys
- 45:44Speaker 1: if they want to pivot a little bit.
- 45:46Speaker 3: And I am a little bit worried about like if
- 45:48Speaker 3: you're playing single entry higher hour stuff, like a lot
- 45:52Speaker 3: of lineups are gonna have Derek White, Peyton Pritchard, Jamal
- 45:57Speaker 3: Shed Cooper Flag, and Danny Wolfe. Yeah that's five guys
- 46:02Speaker 3: right there. I don't really want to be playing three
- 46:04Speaker 3: v threes, so I'm likely to get off one or
- 46:07Speaker 3: two of those guys. Not sure who it is yet.
- 46:09Speaker 1: No, I like that. Yeah, I struggle with some of
- 46:13Speaker 1: this map stuff. I think this ownership's wrong. I think
- 46:16Speaker 1: this may be the ownership if like some of these
- 46:18Speaker 1: guys are ruled out. I think you can pretty much
- 46:20Speaker 1: double everyone in this value range because I think again
- 46:24Speaker 1: you need Bali to make rosters on your slate, and
- 46:26Speaker 1: I just wouldn't like Ryan Emhart would be my favorite,
- 46:29Speaker 1: I think, but he just point guard eligible, which I
- 46:31Speaker 1: don't love. But I don't love Clay, I don't love
- 46:34Speaker 1: Chris c. I guess d Russ is chief. Someone mentioned
- 46:37Speaker 1: Revenge Game, like, yeah, he always can chuck it, so
- 46:40Speaker 1: I guess I don't hate him. But what's his upside?
- 46:42Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Sharp versus Claxon? If Clason's
- 46:46Speaker 1: really gonna be like thirty percent and Sharp's all the
- 46:48Speaker 1: way down there obviously pretty much the same price, but
- 46:52Speaker 1: Canny outscore him in a vacuum, Like, is there any
- 46:54Speaker 1: merit to playing him in very chalky teams? I don't
- 46:59Speaker 1: hate it.
- 46:59Speaker 3: And he is a little litle bit cheaper too, so
- 47:01Speaker 3: you get a little bit of salary, you know, salary
- 47:05Speaker 3: help there by spending down on Sharp. It's just tough
- 47:08Speaker 3: because Sharp isn't as cheap as he normally would be
- 47:10Speaker 3: in this situation. So I think you're overpaying for Sharp
- 47:15Speaker 3: to get away from Claxton. And in that scenario, I'm
- 47:18Speaker 3: more than likely just to get away from Claxton and
- 47:20Speaker 3: play someone else instead.
- 47:22Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think Clowney Noah, Clowney's pretty strong at
- 47:25Speaker 1: fifty two hundred. Sure's power forward eligibility, but I think
- 47:28Speaker 1: that's a way to do it as well. And I
- 47:30Speaker 1: like your MPG shout. If people are spending over Ak,
- 47:33Speaker 1: they're not clicking. I don't even believe like that nineteen percent.
- 47:36Speaker 1: I don't think they're clicking Michael Porter's name. But yeah,
- 47:39Speaker 1: it's not a game I love like. The first game
- 47:42Speaker 1: is obviously way better. I like Philly Toronto more and
- 47:45Speaker 1: then this in the Boston game. My least favorites, just
- 47:48Speaker 1: in a like an environment aspect. Obviously, Boston with the injuries,
- 47:53Speaker 1: you're going to be forced to play some of them.
- 47:55Speaker 1: But I don't love this game, and I won't be
- 47:57Speaker 1: really waiting on news. If Gafford's ruled out, great you
- 48:00Speaker 1: could play some CSA. Otherwise, just have a plan if
- 48:02Speaker 1: you do. Plug that in for sure.
- 48:04Speaker 3: And I see Scooters asking the single entries tonight are
- 48:08Speaker 3: two hundred ish people still don't love the three v
- 48:10Speaker 3: three or four v four approach with the chalk and
- 48:13Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I don't. I mean, I really don't
- 48:16Speaker 3: love it. I think there are ways around it. I
- 48:18Speaker 3: don't think you have to get off of any of
- 48:19Speaker 3: those four or five guys, but I do think that,
- 48:23Speaker 3: you know, it's probably the optimal route to build, at
- 48:26Speaker 3: least as of right now, just because you don't want
- 48:28Speaker 3: to be holding hands with so many people. My big
- 48:30Speaker 3: problem with all these guys getting ownership, I guess except
- 48:35Speaker 3: for Wolf, like take what I said earlier, whenever you've
- 48:39Speaker 3: got shocky players on much more apt to get away
- 48:41Speaker 3: from the more expensive ones because there's more pivots in
- 48:43Speaker 3: the expensive players price range. And I think that's true
- 48:46Speaker 3: with Flag and White. In this instance, the problem is
- 48:49Speaker 3: that both those guys are underpriced for their current role.
- 48:52Speaker 3: You've got White under price for Brown being out, and
- 48:55Speaker 3: Flag still isn't priced correctly for Ad being out. So
- 48:58Speaker 3: both those guys, at least projection wise, are going to
- 49:00Speaker 3: project really well. Now, Wolf is the one guy that
- 49:03Speaker 3: doesn't really fit in there. You know, Kaushett is under
- 49:06Speaker 3: price for his current role too, and certainly Pritchard is,
- 49:09Speaker 3: but Wolf probably is two because you've got guys out
- 49:12Speaker 3: for Brooklyn and he's going to be playing a different
- 49:14Speaker 3: role tonight. So all five of those guys are getting
- 49:16Speaker 3: ownership for a very good reason, making it hard to
- 49:19Speaker 3: get away from any of them.
- 49:21Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would also say to this, so two
- 49:23Speaker 1: hundred people, obviously that's a small is it the payout structure?
- 49:28Speaker 1: Two thousand to first, five hundred a second and one
- 49:30Speaker 1: hundred to third, which I don't think it is. But
- 49:33Speaker 1: if so, then I would like playing the chalk even less.
- 49:36Speaker 1: Whereas if it's very balanced like that two K one
- 49:39Speaker 1: point three one k like that, then I'm more likely
- 49:43Speaker 1: to play some Now I do know though in the
- 49:45Speaker 1: smaller we talk about a lot two hundred people in
- 49:48Speaker 1: that tournament, the chalk will be way chalkier than it
- 49:50Speaker 1: will in the flagship and project that way, So you
- 49:54Speaker 1: have to eat chalking NBA. There's no doubt about it.
- 49:56Speaker 1: Just yeah, trying to find the fine line. If I'm
- 49:59Speaker 1: playing a four v four a twinter man tournament, sure
- 50:01Speaker 1: I don't hate it, but maybe I don't want the
- 50:04Speaker 1: four chalkiest guys or whatever five chalkiest guys on my team.
- 50:08Speaker 1: To start it off with four it would be I uh,
- 50:12Speaker 1: maybe it would just be like, all right, I'll play
- 50:14Speaker 1: White Pritcher Chalk, but then I'll fade one of shed Wolf,
- 50:19Speaker 1: and then Mobiley's getting a lot, so I won't play him,
- 50:21Speaker 1: and then I'm going to like the seventh, eighth highest
- 50:23Speaker 1: like something like that. So you always have to look
- 50:26Speaker 1: at ownership and your cumulative ownership. But the second you
- 50:30Speaker 1: start playing guys that are like seven percent or less
- 50:32Speaker 1: and you get to those really really low owned guys
- 50:35Speaker 1: where you're the only one that has them pretty much,
- 50:37Speaker 1: then you can even eat more chalk a round since
- 50:39Speaker 1: that's your difference makers. So it really depends, yeah, so much.
- 50:43Speaker 1: So many variables go into it.
- 50:45Speaker 3: Yeah, The problem is a lot of times, those really
- 50:47Speaker 3: low owned guys are low own for a reason. They're
- 50:49Speaker 3: not gonna be sta great plays. But again, that doesn't
- 50:51Speaker 3: mean there aren't diamonds in the rough and the you know,
- 50:54Speaker 3: you have the ability to find those good plays. And
- 50:56Speaker 3: I'm with you more or less like you have to
- 50:58Speaker 3: eat chalk and NBA like you don't want to be
- 51:01Speaker 3: in an on an island in NBA. It's just a
- 51:03Speaker 3: matter of like, yeah, the big problem is kind of
- 51:06Speaker 3: what you were saying. Most tournaments on DraftKings these days
- 51:09Speaker 3: are so top heavy that it does encourage you to
- 51:12Speaker 3: be more different than you would be if they weren't
- 51:15Speaker 3: so top heavy.
- 51:16Speaker 1: To your original point, for sure, and it's a four
- 51:19Speaker 1: game slate we're talking versus the nine game slate. The
- 51:21Speaker 1: smaller the slates more you have to focus on ownership
- 51:25Speaker 1: there so, but at the end.
- 51:26Speaker 4: Of the last pivots there are also to that point, yep,
- 51:29Speaker 4: so there's not going to be those one, two, three,
- 51:32Speaker 4: four percent guys like on a main slate with ten
- 51:34Speaker 4: games in the NBA, you can find a random.
- 51:37Speaker 1: Stud that's three percent that obviously still has sixty point
- 51:39Speaker 1: upside for whatever reason that is.
- 51:42Speaker 3: Yeah, there are pluses and minuses to both. Like when
- 51:44Speaker 3: you have the ten games slates, like you're able to
- 51:47Speaker 3: play really really good plays at low ownership. The problem
- 51:50Speaker 3: with those big slates is there's always random guys that
- 51:53Speaker 3: you don't even think about that are gonna go off
- 51:54Speaker 3: and someone's gonna have them. You kind of have the
- 51:56Speaker 3: opposite problem on slates like this, you.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Know, yeah, exactly, like you have such a great team
- 52:01Speaker 1: and then yeah, there's you have to beat out this
- 52:03Speaker 1: one percent whoever it is that just went for sixty
- 52:08Speaker 1: Malachi Brandam or Murray Boyles that you needed last week
- 52:12Speaker 1: for Paul Reed, Like, you just can't win without them,
- 52:14Speaker 1: and it makes it tough that way. So yeah, but
- 52:17Speaker 1: single entry two hundred people, you have a lot more
- 52:19Speaker 1: wiggle room and out's not hitting the optimal than you
- 52:22Speaker 1: do in the flagship. Of course, any final thoughts on
- 52:27Speaker 1: this late before we get on out of here again,
- 52:29Speaker 1: all of our content will be up Rio slate playing
- 52:31Speaker 1: Corps projections ownership of course.
- 52:34Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty grimy Monday Night slate, but that's what us,
- 52:37Speaker 3: the NBA dfs lovers enjoy, So let's get after.
- 52:40Speaker 1: It absolutely and again, if you do want to join
- 52:43Speaker 1: us at the Nation we'd love to have you. You
- 52:45Speaker 1: can see the big PGA earlier Bird special that will
- 52:48Speaker 1: end in two days. Most of you might play PGA,
- 52:50Speaker 1: but obviously you're probably playing NBA. So I think the
- 52:53Speaker 1: better deal for you if you go to join the
- 52:55Speaker 1: nation right here. We do have a daily pass, but hey,
- 52:58Speaker 1: you can get in for five days for nineteen with
- 53:00Speaker 1: Sabersim with the discord and that I'll get you. PGA
- 53:04Speaker 1: this week starts on Wednesday, Thursday. It's almost always Thursday.
- 53:08Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a day early this week,
- 53:10Speaker 1: but we'll have no it's Thursday. They're doing the Wednesday show.
- 53:14Speaker 1: Definitely huge, huge contest for PGA. The best team in
- 53:18Speaker 1: the business over here. Also get your NFL if you
- 53:20Speaker 1: sign up today for tonight and it gets you close
- 53:23Speaker 1: to Saturday. But yeah, it gets the NBA all throughout
- 53:27Speaker 1: the week, NHL all throughout the week. College football is
- 53:30Speaker 1: next Monday. Excited for that. NBA of course, going on PGA.
- 53:34Speaker 1: MMA will be back before you know it. We would
- 53:36Speaker 1: love to have you five days for nineteen dollars, a
- 53:39Speaker 1: daily pass four nine dollars or if you want all access,
- 53:42Speaker 1: if you know you'll be here for a month. Multiple
- 53:44Speaker 1: different options right there, all include discord and save or
- 53:48Speaker 1: SIM that'll do it. Good luck in your NBA contest
- 53:51Speaker 1: if playing NFL, good luck in those as well. We
- 53:54Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow myself in Rio talking some hoops.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Be safe. Good luck for matt On tits.
- 54:18Speaker 2: Hast hast hasty still