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Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP13 - Is There A Heathen Hof Coming In The U.S?? · Random Heathen Ramblings

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You know, today's today's show is going to be very random to be
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honest with you. I got a great voice mail but I
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want to listen with in all of you from Crow, who's a go, the I
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believe for a heating tribe Kindred, what's up, you know,
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what have you and the state of Idaho called the death, Landers,
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and before we get started into that though, I didn't want to
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call attention to a very Extensive voicemail or message
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that was left here a couple of weeks ago at this point week and
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a half or so ago because I didn't address it on last week's
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episode and I feel like that wasn't very fair.
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It was, it was a manual Freire. Who if you're watching listening
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thank you for taking the time out of your day to the call in
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and leave multiple messages. It's no problem at all.
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It's not it's you know, have no issue.
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With it. But upon your request, I'm not
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going to broadcast it on the podcast because it is very
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extensive and very detailed and then in its nature, but it
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brings up some really I think, you know, cool ideas and
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valuable points but it has to do with building.
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A heathen Community like a literal Heathen Center as it
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were here in the, you know, lower 48, at least of the
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continental United States. and man, he was asking a lot of
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like, really specific questions, you know, really good questions
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and I'm inclined to say that, you know, a lot of the questions
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that were being asked, we're better would be better position
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to have a dialogue, you know, with an and kind of pick brains
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a little bit and chew the fat amongst each other as it were.
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Because, you know, he's talking about, you know, I've got these
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opportunity to build a community with A pretty substantial amount
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of money up front to get the whole thing started.
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And he mentions, you know, making some sort of a pledge or
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I don't want to put words into his mouth, but it sounds a bit
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almost like an oath to do something within a certain
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period of time, either on his own or with the aid and help of
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others in the community and the community.
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Again, as I've talked about in another cast, you know, like the
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Pagan Community, he Community, it's so diverse and it's so
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spread out even here in the United States where, you know,
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when you say build a community with people that are Heathen,
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you know that could that could open up a that could open up a
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lot of unwanted and unloved solicited.
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Characters. You know what I'm saying?
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Just because of the certain aesthetic and some of the things
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that people that Kind of approach this this religion, or
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this Faith with skewed ideas and skewed, thoughts and wrong ideas
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and wrong thoughts, just to be frank, you again, you kind of
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opening yourself up to. When you say, I want to have a
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community, I want to build a community want to have like a
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centralized Hub or location for heathens to be able to come to
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and gather and live and in cultivate a community and have,
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you know, he's talking about things like, you know, have a
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central hope. Basically, like which we see in
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in some historical references and like Upsala and all do Sala,
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Sweden, the Hidden Temple there, something of an equivalence here
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in the States. You know, having something like
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that. And then having homes built on,
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said land, and having schools. And, and basically being
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somewhat of like a closed off to the outside world.
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And I don't mean to like, Put words again into into into your
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mouth Emmanuel for air but it Rim it reminded me of almost
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like a community similar to like what the Amish have we're there.
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In the world but not part of the world as it were, you know, so
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they have their, their school houses and they have their shops
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and they have their, you know, people within the community that
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do things for that Community alone.
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So it was very reminiscent to me when I listen to your multiple
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messages that came through very reminiscent of something like
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that and it's very ambitious, it's a very ambitious goal, you
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know And nothing like this comes like he mentions in his
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voicemail looks voicemails. Again it was it was drawn out
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over probably five minutes or so worth of messages and ideas and
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just kind of talking through it all and stuff, like I get your
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goal and I get your idea. And I think it's very ambitious.
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And I understand that you understand that this sort of
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thing, takes a lot of effort, a lot of money, a lot of time.
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And a lot of collaboration, you know, like he he mentions about
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having this goal of his achieved with, you know, by I think he
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said, if it's in 15 years and or sooner with with the right help
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and he mentioned some things, you know, like You know that
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he's not a prominent person in the Pagan Community reason.
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I think even said I'm a nobody And I you know, first of all, if
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you're coming out and talking about doing something like what
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you're describing to do, that does not make you a nobody that
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makes you quite the somebody in my opinion, you know, to think
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about having a centralized location.
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Even if it's one place in the United States, people would be
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willing to travel to people were going to come and perhaps set up
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homes in. And on this land that you're
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talking about. Purchasing the guy, the guy is
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going into some very heavy duty stuff.
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You know, talking about selling his home and selling his
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belongings and stuff and actually like Re shifting his
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hole. Lifestyle, you know, lifestyle
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that others in his Circle, and others within his, in and guard,
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I'm sure would be impacted and affected by and it's, again,
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it's a very ambitious goal and then something to have, but, you
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know, having that kind of goal in in knowing what goes with it.
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He's asking a lot of questions and he kind of posed, the
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question to be something like, hey, maybe you could be the
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voice, or would you want to be a part of it?
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Meaning, you know, myself. Um, and all that sort of thing,
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and I've, you know, had several weeks.
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Well, now, two weeks since you called this this in a week and a
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half, two weeks, I guess now to kind of ponder it and whatnot.
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And again, I'm so excited to hear that a person.
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One person is presented with an opportunity to do something with
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their possessions, with their land, with their homes, even,
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and have that be Be the thing that starts something for a
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larger audience for a broader audience for people to have a
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place a centralized place that you know they have a
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commonality, you know? And again it becomes very it's
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so it's so ambiguous and it's so great to think about it.
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But then there's also some reservations that I have about
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it too. Because, you know, you talked
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about The day and age that we live in in so much of the
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legislation that you have to go through, to be able to do things
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like this on a scale and be recognized by the government.
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And then, you know, you've got the government involved and look
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what happened with the indigenous people of the, you
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know, North America when the government got involved and you
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know, so on and so forth and it just becomes so deep.
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When you think about The potential that's there.
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And then the hurdles that come along with it.
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And again, it's not something that you know, you're going to
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achieve overnight or even within a very short period of time.
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You know, we're talking about a decade more or more if you if he
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takes it on as like a solo project and but he made this
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pledge, he made this statement as I understand that at least to
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do the thing and you know as as heathens when we say that when
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we, when we put that out there to whatever degree, you know, I
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mean, like your urine You're putting your reputation on the
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line. You're putting your luck on the
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line and I believe Emmanuel fair.
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If you're watching listening, what have you to my knowledge
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and understanding you? You serve a position amongst
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your Kindred amongst your tribe within your small or whatever
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size heating or Pagan Circle as Goethe, you know?
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So you have a position of leadership and of responsibility
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that others in your circle. We'll look to as a position of
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they rely on you and they hold you to a standard you know.
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So when you put your name out there and you put your
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everything out there on the line as you do, you now have things
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like again your reputation your refrain on the line and you are
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you are potentially Guys can't hear, but there's Thunder.
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There's thunder rolling right now.
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There's a thunder storm, that's rolling through and I hear the
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thunder rolling. You put your reputation online,
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but you you're starting to establish what we look at as
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frith, right? Because now you're, you're
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putting out something that you you have obligation.
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Now, to do the thing that you say you're going To do, right?
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It's kind of like it's in, it's an interesting timing of things,
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you know, where this whole obligation frith and and all
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that plays and plays a factor because I myself have my own,
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your friend and my own luck and everything like that online.
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But the, my luck it that I'm tying to the luck of My Tribe as
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Chieftain of our tribe, you know, I have a grave
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responsibility too. Achieve what I've set out to do
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within the time that I've set out to do it and it's great like
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it's great to do that because again, it's secures strong luck
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for those that your nearest and dearest with and it does good
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things. If you fail then it can be
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detrimental. But if you approach it in a way
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that you, you know, set out the goal and you achieve that goal,
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then the luck becomes so strong and it is a added to the well
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and becomes part of the whore log but later on down the line
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and again, becomes potentially really good things but the
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timing of it like talking about this and thinking about this now
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and understanding that you have Put something out there that you
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are now obligated to do because you you don't speak to the gods,
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you don't you don't declare these things among your kith and
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kin. You don't, you don't say these
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things. You don't swear these types of
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OHS lightly and you don't set a goal without first understanding
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the challenges ahead of you. And, and, and really and truly,
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if you do that without understanding them then,
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hopefully you've had The checks and balances set in place, you
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know, somebody who can kind of call you out and be like, whoa,
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whoa whoa, whoa. What do you mean you're going to
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do XYZ within 15 years? You know, what happens, if this
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that and the other and hopefully all of those, you know, factors
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have been considered before taking on such a enormous.
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Such an immense in such a, an impressive and ambitious
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undertaking, because like I say you for one person to take what
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they own and take their livelihood and sell it to be
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able to provide the opportunity to have something for a larger
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community that says a lot about an individual's character and
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it's very I mean, that's some powerful main I think is as is
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the word I would use is main your power.
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Your my at that point is Speaks a lot, you know, not a lot of
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people would first of all, entertain that idea because it
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would it would scare them, they would, it would put them in a
18:03
position of taking a risk, too great to to run it, right?
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And you know you asked me some very pointed questions during
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your call and ask me about what I would be willing to do or be
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involved in. And I am apprehensive right now
18:23
to the point of committing to anything.
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I am. Very keen in following this, you
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know, especially when you say it's, you know, a long-term sort
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of goal. I'm very keen on following it
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and approaching it in that way. And as you also request it in
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your call is I was opening this up to the community.
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The majority of my audience is here in the United States and if
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anybody who would be interested in being a part of this and
18:56
wanting to help you has opportunities themselves that
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they're looking to to exhaust, right?
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Maybe they have resources, maybe they have things that would
19:06
benefit you in your endeavors. Here's an opportunity for us to
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perhaps. Open up, open this up to a, to a
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larger and wider audience. And so that's why, when I said
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at the beginning, where I'd be, I'm really leaning heavily on
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wanting to have a dialogue about this, and get some sense in
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understanding of, you know, where things are at and where
19:35
things could potentially go. And then and then perhaps
19:37
develop a plan or help in that sort of way, develop a plan of
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whether or not I'm directly involved but at least give this
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some sort of a platform and give this some sort of a, you know,
19:49
running start. Art as it were and get people
19:51
because I'm just one person and you're just one person but
19:53
together, especially on like this platform in these
19:57
platforms, where people are listening watching, etcetera.
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Hey, you know, I want to be a part of something.
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I want to help, because, guess what I have XYZ.
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I have something that I could contribute to this.
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And when are you doing it? And where are you located?
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And oh, I know about some of the, you know, legislation
20:14
that's involved in doing something like this and maybe,
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you know, networking can take place and we Set the wheels in
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motion to get this. Get this idea.
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You know, some steam and get it actually moving because it
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starts with one person. And that's what I wanted to talk
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to kind of touch on is that, you know, don't think that just
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because you're one person that all, I'm just, you know, I'm a
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nobody, you're not a nobody, you know what I'm saying?
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Like you're one person, expressing an idea or a thought
20:44
and that thought is being shared out now to hundreds, if not more
20:50
people and who knows whose ears, this may come across and where
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this could go. And so it's a seed that gets
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Lance. And you know the greatest and
20:58
strongest of oak trees started off in a small Acorn.
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You know, the the most powerful, the most robust flavors of herbs
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and things start off with just of minut, little seed, you know,
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the beach is made up of my Newton, tiny grains of sand and
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each one of them are important to make up that beach.
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So everybody has a role in, everybody has a part and it's
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just A matter of what our part is and how far were willing to
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go and what were willing to do to establish ourselves in the
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annals of History, right. Because we do live in Saga times
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in the sand Saga. Times will continue.
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So, where do we put ourselves down in that Saga?
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You know. Well, Emanuel fair starts by
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declaring that he wants to establish a heathen Community.
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A central Hub of sorts Of heathens where there's
21:58
education, there's farming, there's medicine, there's Health
22:02
Care. There's, you know, schooling
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there's worship. There's all these things that
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make up what a heathen Community is in a centralized location,
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and he's willing to get that ball rolling, he's looking for
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help. And so me, and my way, without
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having the greatest voice in the Pagan Community, but having a
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voice here, I am talking about it and extending an idea and a
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thought and then Then, you know, abided by the time, this podcast
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airs, you know, Emmanuel I'm going to have sent you an email
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so that way you are tuned in and that you at least catch this
22:39
this episode of the podcast. And that, you know, that I
22:43
didn't ignore your reaching out and that I'm not by any means
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disheartened or discouraged of your, you know, 45 voicemails,
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and it's no big deal. I have no problem with it.
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I'm matter of Glad that you did, and I'm glad that you were so
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relentless. And I want to see about
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potentially talking more about it, in real time, perhaps we can
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get on a You know, a caller or whatever here and then have it.
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I don't know whether it's aired or not, like that's not the
23:14
biggest importance to me, but at least we get something started
23:17
where other people that hear this can can follow back up
23:20
because I'm sure this is this is going to Peak some interest at
23:24
the very least people are going to be intrigued and and want to
23:27
be you know know more about what's going on.
23:30
Where is this where even is is because I'm going to be honest.
23:33
I'm not 100% sure without going back through and looking I want
23:39
to say it's in like you know the West is are of the United
23:42
States, the West Coast area but I can't I don't want to you know
23:46
put my name on the line for that so again wherever and whenever
23:51
and however I think there's going to be some, some interest
23:54
peaked in this because this doesn't sound like something
23:57
that has been I mean, I think that that's something like, this
24:02
is either being attempted or has been attempted in the past, but
24:06
I don't know of the updates on it or where things are at.
24:10
So, you know, maybe this is the thing, maybe this is nothing,
24:14
maybe this could become a thing. And then, maybe there's people
24:17
that will find a home or place that they can call home because
24:21
of this thing. And I would love to, you know,
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At least at this point right now with what limited, you know,
24:31
information I have is explore opportunities.
24:36
And then, without committing to anything, 100%, give give at
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least what I can too. To hear you out and provide
24:43
perhaps a platform for for more information to be shared and
24:48
more knowledge to be spread about it.
24:52
And maybe other people who have other resources themselves can
24:56
collaborate with you and be a help in that way as well.
25:01
So I do appreciate your calling in and sharing all the
25:08
information that you shared a manual for air and I raise my
25:11
glass to you and toast. So Halen skull.
25:13
Thank you so much. All right, I did have something
25:22
I did want the listeners and the viewers to hear if I can figure
25:30
out. Yeah, I think that's the one.
25:35
Baby. Let's see, let's try this one.
25:43
Nope, that's not it working off this new system and I'm figuring
25:47
out certain things about what I'm trying to do.
25:52
And Am I able not to to do it? We shall see.
26:05
I see. Boom, no says computer audio.
26:14
Oh, is it? This, is it because of this.
26:18
Let's try that. No, it's not.
26:21
Mmm. Content from another camera.
26:27
Well, maybe I don't get to listen or maybe we don't get to
26:31
share the audio this week because of Technical challenges.
26:47
It's telling me that I want to share my computer audio but then
26:49
I can't share it. Hmm, maybe that's something for
26:56
next week then. unless, Nope, that ain't it.
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We're figuring it out together so exciting when you figure out
27:21
things together. Especially when you're on a new
27:29
new system. In.
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Why? It's not letting me just share
27:44
the audio. It's all I want to do.
27:49
It's all I want to do is just share the audio.
27:57
I want to share audio from another device.
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Okay, I'll figure it out and maybe we'll come back to it at
28:03
another time because otherwise I'm just going to sit here and
28:08
Bore you all with me clicking around and trying to figure out
28:10
how to do this. We'll figure it out at another
28:13
time, but it does come from Crow from the deathlanders tribe out
28:20
in Idaho. A May brings up some really
28:25
useful and good points and I did want to make sure that we talked
28:28
about it, so that'll be something for for next week's
28:31
episode. It's kind of riding off the
28:32
coattails of This past weeks, episode about self-care and all
28:39
that kind of stuff. Which by the way, I hope that,
28:42
you know, all of you are taking care of yourselves.
28:45
And it, that, that particular episode is actually gotten a lot
28:48
of traction. A lot of good response and a lot
28:52
of good feedback. So guys, keep keep taking care
28:57
of yourselves out there. It's a matter of fact, I'm
29:02
looking forward to coming back next week and I think that.
29:07
The whole like technical hiccup or whatever that I'm
29:12
experiencing right now. Just learning curves, right?
29:16
I think that next week's episode where we listen to crows voice
29:23
mail. So Crow I know you listen and do
29:25
you watch and catch what we do here apologies that we couldn't
29:28
get it on this week's episode but it's common.
29:33
I think it's going to be good timing because next week next
29:37
episode is going to be on the Following Seeger bloke.
29:43
I've been talking about cigarillo almost, as much as
29:46
I've talked about, like, the upcoming you'll festivities and
29:49
stuff. And it's, you know, it's fitting
29:51
because Sigma blow for, for, for us and our tribe here in Middle,
29:55
Tennessee is like it's a big deal, you know, I'm in the
30:00
process of writing ritual for that night.
30:05
And as it stands right now, we may have a potential chance of,
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you know, some Is it rain or whatever that day?
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But it's very minimal. The temperatures look, actually,
30:15
to be quite lovely and that's going to be Saturday.
30:19
So, for everybody that's catching this not live now and
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occurring right now it's, you know, two days prior to our
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superb load event. And that's falling on the, the
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night of the full moon, which is almost perfect.
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That's like the fact that it hits that way and that were able
30:35
to celebrate it on that day, is really ideal and You know, in
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the past we will we make accommodations, you know, for
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scheduling purposes. You know, if it's a few days
30:45
early or whatever, we're going to do it when the rest of like,
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when all of us can get together and do it, you know, comfortably
30:52
and without having to impact our work lives too much.
30:56
So, fortunately, we're getting to do it on the actual day of
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the start of Seger boat, which in historical times, was a
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three-day long celebration, but we're doing it.
31:09
The one night, I know that are go the and his daughter are
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going to be camping overnight on the grounds of the vae
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surrounding on the family lands, and I personally won't be
31:21
camping that night, nor will our law speaker due to Prior already
31:26
established obligations with family.
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The following day because it just so happens.
31:31
That the Christians celebration of Easter is the day after our
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singer bloat celebration. So we have family things to do,
31:41
and But I'm excited to talk about what's going to be
31:46
happening of singer boat or on singer boat for us at least and
31:51
talk about what things that we can talk about.
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Because I'm in the process of writing ritual for that.
31:58
We're going to be doing like a. We usually do a variation of a
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wicker, man on singer but at least we have in the past and
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that's the plan for this year as well as to do something like
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that. And I don't know it's going to
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be I think Going to be a really fun conversation next week.
32:15
And maybe I get dingo to come in and, and, and talk about it
32:19
because course, he'll be there in his daughter will be there.
32:23
And Patrick are lost, speaker will be there as well.
32:26
So who knows, who knows who we have on next week's episode to
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talk about it? Because I think it'll be I mean
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it's almost a guaranteed it's going to be something that
32:38
helps. There's some sir, some
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interesting topics or whatever to talk about.
32:40
So I'm excited about it. I'm excited about everything,
32:45
leading up to it and all the preparations involved.
32:50
It's like you know, I think for those that maybe catch the last
32:54
or caught catched the English language, it's going to get you
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for those that caught the the episode week before last We're
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Dingo and I were talking about the ritual leading up to Ritual
33:10
or the preparation of a ritual and that, you know, the ritual
33:13
itself, what you would, you would classify what you would
33:17
call. The ritual itself is almost
33:19
ceremonial at that point, because everything that leads up
33:22
to, that moment is the actual ritual, right?
33:26
So we talked about the preparations of the grounds and,
33:30
and just mentally preparing and the work that goes into it all
33:34
same. And it's very similar sort of
33:36
thing. You know, we've got the land
33:38
cleared, we've got it prepared, but we've also got some prep to
33:41
do beforehand. We got to get there early, we
33:44
got to assemble our wicker, man. You know, we have to, you know,
33:50
do that thing. We have to cart, you know, cut
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enough wood for those who will be camping then go and his
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daughter to have warmth and stuff overnight, which it's not
33:59
supposed to be terribly cold, overnight, thankfully, but at
34:03
least that way they have Have it, and they can keep the fire
34:06
going and have a warm place to assemble around the following
34:10
day. You know?
34:10
So all of that again is important because it's the
34:17
Everything leading up to that ritual, everything leading up to
34:19
our ritual, the preparation of it, it puts you in that mindset
34:22
and it puts you in that headspace.
34:27
And but I have, I am, I'm really excited about being there and
34:32
having our ritual and talking about it.
34:36
But that afterwards, as much as we're able to in this in this
34:40
way, you know, share what we want to share and talk about
34:43
what we want to talk about. Maybe, you know, maybe you folks
34:46
are are planning a singer bloat event for the weekend coming up.
34:52
So if you are and you want to share, you can definitely write
34:55
into the podcast midgard, musings TN at gmail.com or do
35:00
like a manual, fur, didn't call in leave six voicemails.
35:03
Let's talk about it. Let's hear about what you did.
35:07
Let's hear about the special moments that you had.
35:13
You know, for your sewer boat, if that's what you're doing.
35:16
If you prefer not to talk about it, you know, no pressure at all
35:19
whatsoever, but you offers there and the thoughts are there?
35:25
So, aside from that, you know, I mean, Just sipping on some
35:37
Scotch tonight. New format new.
35:42
Backdrop new display. Hope you've all enjoyed it.
35:48
I did want to just briefly mention something that I know a
35:51
lot of people. On my side of the family, if
35:56
they're still doing the thing that they've always done,
35:58
they're going to see this and they're going to hear this.
36:01
So this one's really for them. But it's also for somebody else
36:08
for other people here too, because I'm sure that this is
36:10
going to hit The nail is going to be hit on the head of many
36:15
nails, like we're going to hit the nail on multiple heads here.
36:19
We're going to hit the multiple heads of many nails.
36:22
I don't know. Anyway, What was it?
36:32
Earlier this week Sunday. My niece, my wife's niece.
36:38
My, our niece was baptized And I've the reason why I'm
36:46
mentioning this is because I've gotten a lot of messages emails.
36:54
People have asked questions on different platforms about.
37:00
You know what to do when you know you have to be in a church
37:04
and oh and Pagan and are the gods going to be mad at me
37:07
blabbity blah. Here we go.
37:11
Right? Classic example.
37:13
You you what we talk about here on this podcast and then some of
37:17
the subject matters that come up.
37:19
It's like I don't I don't first of all, I don't advocate for
37:24
doing things that I wouldn't first, myself necessarily do it
37:27
when it comes to like, The involvement of integration, I
37:33
guess would be probably the best term of, you know, you as a
37:37
pagan, or we as pagans in our, how our lives intertwined, with
37:43
our families who are, who are not Pagan, okay, and how much of
37:48
a conflict that can cause in the challenges that we face when it
37:52
happens and so on and so forth. This past, you know, weekend was
37:57
it was a great example of you. you know, you make mountains out
38:01
of molehills when you think about stuff too much and are
38:10
nice. You know, she's seven months old
38:13
and her mother and the family wanted to, you know, have a
38:18
celebration of a of their baby girl's life to declare a
38:27
connection to the Christian faith and I have my opinions
38:34
about it and my opinions don't really matter at the moment.
38:39
I'm going to feel the way I feel and that's okay, everybody can
38:41
feel the way they want to feel, but the fact of it is is that I
38:48
I didn't I didn't lose any credibility with the guys, I
38:51
didn't lose any credibility with my answers, as if anything, I
38:56
carried them with me by going to this church.
39:01
Sitting in this assembly and celebrating this event and being
39:08
there in support, you don't have to necessarily agree or or
39:12
follow the same path but I get it.
39:14
I understand where they're coming from with it and if
39:17
anything else like I mean I've attended a lot of Christian
39:24
Services I've attended Catholic mass.
39:27
I've been to Pentecostal sermons, you know, I I've seen.
39:35
You know, Baptist services Methodist services.
39:39
This particular one this past week was at a Methodist.
39:42
Church. Okay, which you know, let's add
39:46
some levity to the situation, you know, methodists are the
39:49
Catholics that just weren't fully committed, you know.
39:51
They're they're they're the the light version of Catholicism
39:56
similar to what I would say is the Catholics are pagans in
40:01
denial because it's so ritualistic man.
40:04
Like it's so setup, Stand Down, say this say that do this do
40:07
that very ritualistic and the the the approach of things the
40:12
way they did it, that how they involve the community right
40:16
there, their church, family, whatever.
40:17
It's there's elements there that you could take and learn from on
40:22
a heathen tribal scale on an even level, you know, the way
40:27
that they declare Devotion to their deity, the way that they,
40:33
you know, come together to support one another and be there
40:37
for one another for, for a sacred.
40:39
Right? You know something that for them
40:42
the baptismal vows are sacred and to sit and be witness to it.
40:48
If you've never been is is a is a very educational experience
40:55
and I've talked to or I'm not necessarily talk to you but I've
40:58
seen enough interaction. Actions of people online where
41:00
they like, I don't want to go into that church because the
41:03
gods will be mad at me. And then this that way ever, I'm
41:06
like They don't care that they don't care about that.
41:11
The fact is I went because my wife is like I want to go to
41:16
support, you know, her niece. And I said, well that I'll be
41:20
there with you and that's family and that's Ken and that's or log
41:24
and that's all the things that really mean something to me as
41:28
in my Pagan path and the way that I Heathen, you know, not
41:32
telling anybody else how they should be heating or how you
41:34
should be a pagan, or how he should be a pagan or she Sure
41:37
they or whatever, but that's how it worked for me and it was, you
41:40
know, it was it was a it was a way for me to be like, hey guess
41:46
what? I may be Pagan and I may hold my
41:51
devotions to deities that the Christian path abhors or, you
41:58
know, Dams, me and condemns me for believing it, but that's not
42:04
me. I'm not going to be the one to
42:06
condemn or damn anybody for their belief.
42:08
If anything, I will be there beside them because they are kin
42:10
to me because they've never done anything wrong to me.
42:14
So guess what I will be there in support and I did I went you
42:20
know no no outward visible signs of my paganism.
42:24
Other than the fact that you know, These ranks never come off
42:28
and they haven't, you know, they carry certain Pagan symbols but
42:31
I'm not like, you know, flaunting myself in a church
42:34
with a hammer on or whatever like that I you know.
42:40
What is that dude was that prove?
42:41
There's nothing. There's nothing that's going to
42:43
add good for, good luck for my, for my or log, you know, or to
42:50
my luck that that becomes or log later on, that doesn't do
42:53
anything for me, you know, and I know where I stand with the gods
42:58
and I know where I stand with my ancestors, and I do what I do.
43:05
To to add to my luck. The gods will observe or not and
43:10
it's, you know, they're busy doing their things or whatever.
43:13
I know where I stand. So you can do it.
43:20
You can do it to. Anybody can do it.
43:21
You don't have to feel weird about walking into a church
43:24
because I'm paying it, guess what?
43:26
I've also been told that I'm possessed.
43:29
I'm told that because, you know, I put on a facade when I'm in
43:33
ritual or I really embrace the ritual theater aspect of my
43:37
practices. You know, this whole, you know,
43:40
get up right here, right now. Like the hooded thing that the
43:43
the the, the tunic, the Staff and then and everything like
43:48
that. I mean, when I get into a ritual
43:50
State, when I do my thing, I really get into it.
43:55
It, if that's been recorded in my vistage, has been seen as
43:58
what could appear to be as being possessed, right.
44:01
Well, guess what? You know, this possessed Pagan,
44:06
you know, didn't burst into flames, walking into the house
44:14
of God as it were, Because I respect their God and I respect
44:18
the fact that that deities and sacred beings exist across many
44:23
cultures and across many Pantheon's and they are, they
44:28
are not the same as us as humans there.
44:30
You know, that's not the way I see it at least and so, you
44:34
know, whatever I may not venerate, I may not call to that
44:40
specific deity or give that deity any sort of worshiper.
44:46
But they are still what they are and I don't disrespect them on
44:51
their ground as it were because I feel like there's something to
44:54
be said for that. So that's where I'm at.
44:58
That's where I'm at with it and for those listening and watching
45:02
that are literal blood kin to me, there you go.
45:11
The doctrine over the years that has been taught and that has
45:14
been spread around as being the ultimate truth.
45:21
There there, there's more to the world, there's more to you,
45:24
there's more to us, there's more to everything than what a 63 or
45:28
64 book manuscript has to offer because that's all we actually
45:33
have. There's there's way more to that
45:35
that's not documented. There's way more to that, that's
45:37
not been written down. Matter of fact, the religion
45:41
that I follow most of, it hasn't been written down so we're all
45:45
still figuring it out. We're all still learning and
45:46
we're all still getting our, you know, navigating through those
45:49
Waters. So There's my piece about it and
45:54
that's all I'm going to say about it and at least for today,
45:58
at least for this podcast, at least for this episode.
46:01
So until next time and until I figure out how to get crows
46:09
voice mail, recorded, our recording shared right now
46:12
again, I don't know why. I like I've been able to do it
46:14
before on a different device and on, you know, different ways.
46:18
Not sure why we couldn't get it this week, but everything
46:20
happens for a reason. Reason.
46:21
So we got to learn, right? We got to figure things out.
46:27
And I hope that this week's episode has given all of you,
46:33
some things to think about. So more to come on the whole
46:39
Emmanuel for are Heathen, Community land Building Homes,
46:46
hope stuff like that. More to come on that.
46:50
I think this was just kind of a start.
46:52
So we shall see where it goes. And Emmanuel fair.
46:56
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47:00
Think I have your email. I said before that, I send you
47:03
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Is it to have me know, pretty sure I have your email.
47:09
So if I don't send you an e-mail it's because I shot myself in
47:13
the foot and didn't actually know of an email but if you get
47:18
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