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Ep. 375: At Bat and Behind the Levee with Austin Riley · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless,
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  Speaker 1: don't have like a strong emotional connection to the song. Now, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there's a way to hand all right, everybody. We're in Atlanta, Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: joined by Austin Riley Third Basement for the Atlanta Braves.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. You guys, beat you guys, beat
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  Speaker 1: our man Pete last night. Bad. That's all bad. You
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  Speaker 1: got You weren't like it seemed like you just like
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  Speaker 1: parked your car and came in there and got a
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  Speaker 1: nice hit. Yeah. I mean, um, we needed that one.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the racist is tough. They've you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Mets are a really good squad. Um they've had a
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  Speaker 1: really good season and and you know we're we're trying
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  Speaker 1: to win a division and and you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: what September baseball is all about. It's I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's about those those fights um with it within the division.
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  Speaker 1: And and you know last night was luckily it was
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  Speaker 1: on our side, but pe got two more against him.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, any anything can happen. Explain to me, like, um,
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  Speaker 1: explain me like I'm five years old, which is about
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  Speaker 1: where I'm at with baseball knowledge for sure. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: lastly you guys won handily. Well, I mean in the end,
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  Speaker 1: someone could have liked last inning is a little hairy.
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  Speaker 1: But and and uh just the amber we just met him,
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  Speaker 1: uh Tyler, he was milking it out at the plate.
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  Speaker 1: Bases were loaded. I was like, wow, this is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, could it could change in a heartbeat? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like one hit could have been that you guys would
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  Speaker 1: have been you guys would have been losing off. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What do you do when when that's going on? You
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  Speaker 1: do you look? I mean, oh yeah, you definitely you
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  Speaker 1: gotta you gotta play the whole situations um in your head.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you know that's yeah, you know, bases loaded
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  Speaker 1: up by three, you know, one like I said, one
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  Speaker 1: swinging back could could put us down by one. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, having Kindley up there, you know the
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  Speaker 1: career that he's had, I mean he's he's one of
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  Speaker 1: the best closers in the game. You know, you know
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  Speaker 1: in baseball, it's been around, I mean he so you
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  Speaker 1: definitely have a trust in him, no, no doubt, um
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  Speaker 1: and and luckily it was he was able to slam
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  Speaker 1: the door. Well, so, now here's the part you gotta
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  Speaker 1: explaining to me, like I'm five, okay, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: you can both head of the playoffs, But there's a
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  Speaker 1: You have a three game series, correct, So whoever whoever
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  Speaker 1: would win the the the advantage of winning the series
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  Speaker 1: is just that you get a break. Correct, So right
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  Speaker 1: now we've so right now, obviously it's tied now, but
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  Speaker 1: say if the Mets were to to win the division,
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  Speaker 1: they would get a You basically missed the wild Whoever
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  Speaker 1: wins the division, you missed the wild card. So if say,
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  Speaker 1: if we were to to lose, we would uh in
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  Speaker 1: the season in Miami on Wednesday, have an off day
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then we would play the wild card Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And then if whoever wins the division, that you would
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  Speaker 1: get like that five day break, and there's and then
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  Speaker 1: you have fewer games separating you from the finality of it.
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  Speaker 1: All separating you from the championship. You have you have
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  Speaker 1: fewer opportunities to get knocked out. Correct. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: you got the wild card n LDS and l yes,
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  Speaker 1: and then the World Series. So you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: make it all the way to the World Series, you're
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  Speaker 1: playing until November seven. Um. So it's it actually is
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  Speaker 1: a there's a lot of downtime, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: it like flies but going through it last year, Um,
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs fly by. Um. But it's just like like
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  Speaker 1: right now, so we're tied right now, say if we
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  Speaker 1: were so we got three games after after these two games, um,
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  Speaker 1: and say if we tie, then it goes to the
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  Speaker 1: best record against each other. So say if say, if
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  Speaker 1: we were to tie like straight up to end the season, um,
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  Speaker 1: and then then it would go but who who won
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  Speaker 1: the most games between us and the Mets, like out
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  Speaker 1: of the whole season, and then that's who That's how
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  Speaker 1: you decide the division. So UM, it gets a little
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  Speaker 1: a little complicated at times. Um. Yeah, I wish I
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  Speaker 1: was wishing it to be more clean. Ye oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and now you wish you could like like the Super
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  Speaker 1: bowls clean. Yeah. Now that it's just like it's just
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  Speaker 1: like even like minor like you got the minor leagues,
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  Speaker 1: you got through. I went through six systems before I
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  Speaker 1: got to the big leagues. It's like you played for
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  Speaker 1: six years before you even get the opportunity at the
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  Speaker 1: big leagues. It's just baseball is complicated. That's the only
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  Speaker 1: way to put it. Yeah, but you came up like
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  Speaker 1: through the ranks. So man, I you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: fortunate enough to to kind of go through pretty quick. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And and just like I said, I had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the organization gave me every opportunity and
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  Speaker 1: in the books to to grow my game and and succeed. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, like I said, I've been been very fortunate.
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  Speaker 1: And Austin played for one of the best minor league
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  Speaker 1: team names. He played for the Halinas for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the Fall League. That's another like. And so
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  Speaker 1: there's a league that, um that they do that's not
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  Speaker 1: affiliated with any organization. So it's they call it the
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Fall League. Um. It happens the month of November. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's in it's in Arizona at the their the Springs
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  Speaker 1: Tining complexes out there and each team it sends like
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  Speaker 1: two or three guys from each squad and they go
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  Speaker 1: play together. Um, and you know you play like I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like thirty games, super laid back. Um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it's not an affiliate or anything, but um it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different type of type of league. But it's
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  Speaker 1: it's fun. You know what we're talking about last night?
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  Speaker 1: Do you do you get when you hear take me
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  Speaker 1: out to the ballpark? What's that song? How's it going? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give five bucks. Any one this room can tell
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  Speaker 1: me who wrote that. I don't even know it. Keep
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  Speaker 1: you when you hear it? Do you get stirred up?
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  Speaker 1: I think it gets played so much and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of tune it out a little bit. This thing is
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  Speaker 1: everybody got up to sing and Krian I was like,
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  Speaker 1: why aren't you singing? As? I just don't having them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like seventh any stretch, that's what they play. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you're here for a hundred sixty two day or games.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, nice, let's get today thinning. Albert
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  Speaker 1: von Albert von Tilser wrote many hit songs. Let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you something, I'm a big Von Tills in your head.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Here's some more of his hits.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready for this, Put on your slippers and fill
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  Speaker 1: your pipe. You're not going bye by tonight. That's the
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  Speaker 1: Eric von tilt That was a von Tilser song. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he's got something, He's got. Here's here's another one of
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  Speaker 1: his hits, Oh how she could yackie hackey wicki wacky.
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  Speaker 1: This is a family show. See here's here's another one
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  Speaker 1: of his hits, My cuties due at two to two,
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  Speaker 1: so at one. If that's a m or p M,
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  Speaker 1: his cutis do at um. Another one of his hits
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  Speaker 1: is wait Till You get them up in the air Boys.
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  Speaker 1: It's some interesting one. But take Me Out of the
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  Speaker 1: Ball Game was listed a number eight on the list
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  Speaker 1: of songs of the Century. Mm hmm, so Christ, next
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  Speaker 1: time you see me, nat take me out the ball game.
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  Speaker 1: It's just you know, I'll sing some volgarty you're wishing
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  Speaker 1: it was the what was it yuck any whacky? I
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  Speaker 1: thought that I was like I was. I was hoping
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  Speaker 1: that they would play Oh how she could yucky hacky
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  Speaker 1: wicky wacky boo. But there's some people in this room
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  Speaker 1: for who take me out to the ball game tugs
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  Speaker 1: on the heart strings a bit. Definitely did for me. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let me let me ask you, let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: another question. They we're gonna we gotta cover off off
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  Speaker 1: some stuff. But you so with the whole thing, do
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  Speaker 1: you ever feel like it's a it's a it's a um.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a slap in the face of a deer
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  Speaker 1: hunter such as yourself, that everything ends on November seven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like that you could be like, let's start a week earlier.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start everything a week earlier, right, and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: hunt the first week in November for white tails and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, it's it's tough like last year. Um,
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  Speaker 1: even like you know because our regular season ends October three, um,
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  Speaker 1: and last year before we went to the playoffs, like
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  Speaker 1: if we like one, we were not even above five
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  Speaker 1: hundred at the break, like it was. It was a
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  Speaker 1: rough season last year, and like we just got hot
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  Speaker 1: at the right time, like took off. So I had
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  Speaker 1: like three hunts planned in October that I was just
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  Speaker 1: like what my buddy Tyler, and like it's just like
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  Speaker 1: one after other that I was having, like I am
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  Speaker 1: canceling this one where we made another week cancel this
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  Speaker 1: and we made another week, canceled that one, made another week. Um,
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  Speaker 1: all all worth it. Um, it wouldn't change it for
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  Speaker 1: the world. Throw that out there, so no one's mad
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  Speaker 1: at me. Um. But now it's um, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: much as I wanna, you know, be there for opening Day,
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  Speaker 1: I got the best of both the worlds. It's like
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  Speaker 1: as soon as baseball ends, I go right and hunting
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  Speaker 1: seasons in it and I'm in it until it's time
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  Speaker 1: to go back to baseball. But but for for you
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  Speaker 1: like to hunt turkeys, I mean you gotta be totally
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  Speaker 1: boned on turkey hunting, right, Yeah, that's hard. I've never
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  Speaker 1: never killed an Eastern. I've killed two asiola's all there
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  Speaker 1: in spring training. Oh so well played, right Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like all my buddies back home, give me, give
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  Speaker 1: me crap from like you didn't even kill an Eastern,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't get the chance, Like, give
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  Speaker 1: me a break. But uh, when you are when you
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  Speaker 1: talk about when you when you're you have a hunt
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  Speaker 1: playing and obviously you want to you know you want
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  Speaker 1: to win, no doubt, but do you, Um, is there
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  Speaker 1: ever any part of your head? Right? It's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to going on that trip.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, of course, like you know my passion.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely love to hunt white tells um so anytime,
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  Speaker 1: especially like never been much out of the state growing up.
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  Speaker 1: So I've I've killed you know, I've killed a deer
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  Speaker 1: in in um Texas, Nebraska, and Louisiana. And one of
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  Speaker 1: those trips that I had to cancel was at the
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  Speaker 1: Griggsbies in Illinois and that was like growing up, that
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  Speaker 1: was like my dream to go to Illinois. So that
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  Speaker 1: that one hurt a little bit, um But like I said,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's always other opportunities, um for you for growing
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  Speaker 1: up in Mississippi. Was that like the holy landed deer
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  Speaker 1: hunting was looking at Illinois, Illinois, Kansas, like just going
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  Speaker 1: up there like that was like my that's my bucket
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  Speaker 1: list is to go up there and some some big
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  Speaker 1: white tails. So what, um hold are you right now?
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  Speaker 1: And then so in in fifteen years like an old
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  Speaker 1: you're an old ass ball player at fort you right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like most guys are out thirty five ish.
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  Speaker 1: So um A side note, as soon as I'm done
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  Speaker 1: with that, I'm chasing Elk. In September when the bugle in.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's another bucket list. So but as but
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  Speaker 1: there's lead at the end of the tunnel. I mean
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  Speaker 1: not that the tunnel is that dark, but I'm just saying, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like the way the thing, that's why I don't comply.
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  Speaker 1: I got plenty of opportunities because you were you were
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  Speaker 1: on a professional track in your teens, right, so it's
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  Speaker 1: like you've had a career and you'll still be unless
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  Speaker 1: you do something horrible to your knees, right, I'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to just tear it up. Yeah, I'll be able
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  Speaker 1: to hunt as much as I want. So that's like I
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  Speaker 1: I said, you don't not every day you get to
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  Speaker 1: go chase the World Series. So I'm taking taking Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, as much as I love hunting, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't would not trade and change that for the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got it. Okay, Austin's got all he's got limited time,
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  Speaker 1: he's got stuff going on, he's got a big game tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into some other stuff and then we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get back in with him in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here's here's the thing we got to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes something gets so talked about I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it because what's there to say? The
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  Speaker 1: who like the fact that that that I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: put this here, Kran Why did you determine that that
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  Speaker 1: we didn't need to talk about it because everyone's already
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: talked about it so exactly as you said, it's true,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: but like, what what more is there to say? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like the news would make its rounds
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  Speaker 1: and all of the various circles that it's flying around,
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  Speaker 1: and that's it. We didn't need a touch on it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I want I didn't want to talk about it, but
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  Speaker 1: now you really did. Then it came to be that
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  Speaker 1: I realized I had a dissenting view. I had a
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  Speaker 1: dissenting view from the rest of America and thought we
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  Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk about it. When you google
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  Speaker 1: this story, the first results are npr tmz l A times.
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  Speaker 1: So when you say everyone's talked about it, literally everyone.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't mean like everyone that I hang out with,
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  Speaker 1: I mean like America. Yeah, could tell tell tell us
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  Speaker 1: just to bring people up to speed, Spencer, do you
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  Speaker 1: mind telling the story? Sure? This? Uh, this sort of
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  Speaker 1: like entered our radar about a week ago, where screenshots
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  Speaker 1: started floating around every piece of social media, from Facebook
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  Speaker 1: to Reddity, Instagram, Twitter, etcetera. Where it was a woman
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  Speaker 1: who posted on Facebook, uh five photos holding a skinned
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  Speaker 1: out critter and this is what the Facebook post says.
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  Speaker 1: It says, So this morning I set out for a
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  Speaker 1: solo predator hunt for a fall black bear. However, I
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  Speaker 1: got the opportunity to take another predator wolf pup. Two
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  Speaker 1: was a great feeling to text my man and say
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  Speaker 1: I just smoked a wolf pup hashtag first wolf, hashtag
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  Speaker 1: one less predator Montana. Okay, can you back up and
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  Speaker 1: give it to me a sentence at a time. What
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: here's the problem. There's the punctuation, So okay, break it on.
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  Speaker 1: If that sounded clunky, it's because out of nowhere, break
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  Speaker 1: it up, break it up in the same fashion and
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  Speaker 1: hit me with a not a sentence, but a thought
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  Speaker 1: at a time. Let me try her. So this morning
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  Speaker 1: I set out for a solo predator hunt for a
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  Speaker 1: fall black bear. Great, however, great, I've done the uh.
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  Speaker 1: I've done the same thing. However, I got the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to take another predator, wolf pup. Okay, here's where things start. Okay, great, great,
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  Speaker 1: she lives in a state where she there's in a
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  Speaker 1: state that has a long wolf season. And I'll point
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  Speaker 1: out has wolf quotas the states divided into seven regions.
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  Speaker 1: Each region has its own quota. There's a store, there's
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  Speaker 1: a total statewide quota. Uh, she has uh the necessary permit. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: nothing of foul now the pop part um hits it
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  Speaker 1: on the nose, but so, okay, great, okay, go on.
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  Speaker 1: And the last thing says two was a great feeling
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  Speaker 1: to text my man and say I just smoked a
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  Speaker 1: wolf pup. Okay. So has a great relationship with her boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: excited to share details of her life with him. Used
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  Speaker 1: they use the word choice, the euphemism for killed. But
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  Speaker 1: let's say she had said got text my man, I
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  Speaker 1: got my first wolf pop okay. And then that's followed
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  Speaker 1: by hashtag first wolf, hashtag one last predator Montana. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that the motivation is one less predator.
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  Speaker 1: I think the moti you know, the motivation is like
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  Speaker 1: you want to go hunting, you want to get a wolf.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that people really if you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: wake up any at any given day and do something
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  Speaker 1: for wildlife, in your state, okay, and in your in
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  Speaker 1: your soul, your your soul goal is to benefit wildlife
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  Speaker 1: in your state or benefit ungulates in your state. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that hunting predators is the best I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that hunting wolves is the best use of your time.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be that you would volunteer for
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  Speaker 1: the day for Rocky Mountain Helt Foundation. You'd volunteer for
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  Speaker 1: the day for mule of your foundation. You would go
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  Speaker 1: to work that day and take all the money you
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  Speaker 1: made at work that day and give it to a
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  Speaker 1: habitat organization. It's similar to I think it's similar like
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  Speaker 1: let's say you wanted to go shoot prairie dogs, um,
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  Speaker 1: but then you say like, oh, I'm going to help
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  Speaker 1: the rancher out. You know. I think it's mostly you
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  Speaker 1: want to go shoot prairie dogs. If you went to
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  Speaker 1: a ranch, if you went to a rancher's house and said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, today I woke up and I just wanted
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to help you out. What what is the thing I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: could do most to help you out. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna say. I don't think that's what
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna say. Stretch a wire he's gonna say like, oh, dude,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm dreading. You know what I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do? Throw square bales. Yeah, it's just so
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of a there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of mental masturbation that happens with people where
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  Speaker 1: you are. You get into where you're there's a thing
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  Speaker 1: you want to do, and you have perfectly legitimate reasons
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to do it, but you dress it up as though
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it's like somewhat altruistic. You know. Altruistic would be that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you went that you had the day off, went to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: your boss and says, I want to work today, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: want to do over time today, whatever. And then I'm
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: just gonna and I'm gonna take the entire pay for
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: today and and donate it to a wildlife habitat organization
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that would you know. So there it's a little fishy there.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, this story gets a lot more fishy, but
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: up to this point, I'm just laying out like what, Okay,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the parts. Now, here's the plot so far. Maybe a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: little bit of men my masturbation, but not offensive. Here's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: here's the plot. Twist and wide. You know, TMZ and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: NPR are talking about this the five photos she posted
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: are not with a wolf with a husky. Yeah, that's
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: where husky. That's where we enter into a problem. A
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: dead husky and a a skinned out husky. She rugged
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it out. Yes, Now, if it was a lab her,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a beagle, her, a hound, I would be more inclined
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to be like, what the right, more inclined. You're you're
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: already given her too much credit. Listen, it's not as
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I understand. As I understand that she was way back
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in the mountains and someone had dumped a pack, so
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to speak, someone had dumped a pack of like sled dogs, right,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: had dumped a pack of sleddogs out in the middle
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of nowhere just to get just to get rid of
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: them and dump them. So that that Facebook post was
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, and it had done its thing. It was
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: all over by Sunday, and and I feel like we're
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: all getting texts of it like is this real? This
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: is a joke, right, and things like that. I think
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: on Mondays when the Sheriff's office for Flathead County put
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: out a statement, that's when they gave those extra details
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that a pack of dogs were dumped in the wilderness.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And I think up until that point, eleven of those
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: dogs had been recovered, and it was like, what nineteen
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: or something that got dumbed. Well, a different Facebook post
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: from this woman who shot the husky, she said that
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: there were nineteen dogs that were dropped off and that
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: she was eleven miles in the back country. So people
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: had already kind of like formed their opinions by this point,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: by by like the three days two days later. You
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: know when the sheriff's office has a statement, I think
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that you could. You know when you go to get
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: if you go to bear hunting the state that has
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: black bears and grizzlies in the lower forty eight, your
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: state agency is probably gonna make you go do a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: thing where you have to look at pictures of You
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: have to look at pictures of bears in various contexts
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and pass the test about how well you can distinguish
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a black bear from a grizzly. It is not an
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: easy test. I'm not saying, I'm not even kind of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: saying it's the same thing as the husky, no wolf,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: but placed in a certain context where the last thing
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: on your mind is one thing, I think that it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: would be let me put out, Let let me tell
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you a story years ago. We went down when I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was in school, me and some me and my and uh.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: When I when I was in school in Montana. My
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: brother Danny was in school at Auburn. We went down
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to hunt the Tuskegee National Forest, Okay, and it was
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a great time. We just hunted public land, had really
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: no idea what we're doing. Everybody got a buck. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: got a buck. Who's a spike that was so small
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: we lax. I cut it off with a hacks on.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I was able to carry its rack around in my
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: shirt pocket. Caught a real thin little slice. You still
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: have that rack? No, I wish I did. Man. I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: literally went home with that rack in my shirt pocket.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: But it was a legal box either way. I remember
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: one point when I was walking down this road through
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Tuskee National Forests and look down a cut line and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: hit the deck because there's a deer. But once I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: looked through my skulle, it was some damn big dog.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But if I was walking down a street or a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: sidewalk through a neighborhood and I saw an object step
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: into a cut line, I wouldn't have thought or step
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: into an alley. I wouldn't have thought there's a deer. Yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you think there's because the context of where you're at
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: influences what you see. And according to this woman, she
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was eleven miles in the back country, which I don't know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe she might have been ten miles up a logging road.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And Hi, I don't really know what that means. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I absolutely understand it. But I think one thing we
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: should talk about is that there is no like So
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: this was a domesticated dog who was dumped into the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: woods and she rugged it out. Well, here's the thing,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: what do you There's no way this this dog probably
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: saw human for the first time, and however and was
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: probably probably ran up super friendly, like oh my god,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been says it ran up in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in like growling and snarling. I've been out Kyle hunting
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: before and called in dogs with a collar on. But
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: when they hear that kyo fight sound plan, they come
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: running in ready to you know, funck something up. They're
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: ready to fight. And I mean I have like personal
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: called in a husky while Kyle hunting, and in that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: context I can depth oh yeah yeah with a collar on,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I called it in a neighbors German shepherd.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: One time. It can happen. Definitely. I didn't shoot it. No,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I did not shoot it. I am not in any way.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not in anyway. I'm not in any ways saying
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it could have happened to anyone. I don't think it
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: could have happened anyone. I just think that the criticism
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: um is a little carried away, and I think that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it's not. It doesn't strike me as like this horrible
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as this horribly negligent, egregious thing. It
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: was like it was a mistake, but it wasn't if
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: it was a lab, like I said, if it was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a lab or a beagle, you'd be what. But there
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: are black wolves, there are white wolves, there are mixed
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: color wolves. We recently saw a pack of hunt in Alaska.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: We saw a pack of fourteen, all black wolves. I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: didn't know that could happen. Dang, fourteen solid black wolves.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And when you're looking at him from a long ways
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: way through a spot and scope, you would be like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: holy sh it, there's a bunch of black dogs running
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: along because they're just black. M So it just it
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't strike me. It just doesn't strike me as insane.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: As it's striking everybody else. And I think there's on
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: people's behalf. There's like a shipload of moral posturing. And
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I think the most of the people that are most
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: mad would have been just as mad if it had
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: been a wolf. And somehow, weirdly, when a woman does something,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: it pisces people off more than when a guy does it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That's true. And even though she's not gonna face any
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: legal trouble, this is gonna follow her around for the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: rest of her life because it if a woman does something,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: there's something about it that just makes even women hate
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: him more. You know, women, men, all right, they're not
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: given because it's like because she did this awful thing
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and tried, thought she killed the wolf, try to kill
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: a wolf, it was a dog, It's like they're gonna
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: pile onto her harder. Yeah. I think it's the sheer,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: just brazen confidence of that Facebook post to that's that's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: adding a lot of feel and my but my context
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: there would be then that it is a genuine mistake, right,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that it's just an individual made a mistake. Yeah, And
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have like this disneyfication of like
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: what a wolf would look like, right, don't. I don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: think people even always really know exactly what they look at.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: The people that are piste would have been pissed if
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: it was a wolf. Yeah, totally. The news coverage you
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: see of this, it always this is now like a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: launching pad to talk about like the delisting wolves and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: things like that. You see that in all these new
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: sources that are covering this story. It becomes it becomes
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not that a woman shot at husky. It talks about
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like the protection of wolves in the Rocky Mountains. It's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a referendum. It becomes a referendum on whether it's the state,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: uh should be love to manage the resource. Yeah, so
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's like we shouldn't have wolves delisted because otherwise huskies
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: are getting shot. Husky get shot. We need to add
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: some more clear need to add some more clarity to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the story. Though. So she had posted that like on
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the weekend, right, and the sheriff's office releases the statement
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a few days later. Um, and then she puts a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: follow up post on Facebook, and you had talked about
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: how she had shot it because it was like barking
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: at her or whatever. Here's what her post says, This
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is just part of it, It says I would still
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: have shot it because it was aggressive and coming directly
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: for me. So that that was part of her story
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that came out later. Uh, that the husky you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: was posturing as though I was going to attack her. Hm,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I can't buy that that. I don't have
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: problem with that. It's like dogs. We call it burger barking,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like coyotes do it. Dogs do it when they first
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: see a stranger. Hell, my dog does it through the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: window of the truck, like she see someone walking in
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the dark. Right, hackles go up. It's like it's yourself.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: It's a convenient it's a convenient detail. I don't know.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. I could see why
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: someone in this situation would feel the need to um
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: try to get themselves out of the death threats and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: right like I can see why someone under great dear
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: rest might stretch the truth. But in and of itself,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that is not an outrageous claim. No, it's not. If
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: someone told me. If if if my wife was on
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a hike with the kids and she came back and said,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: we were way up so such and such place, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: some damn dog comes out of nowhere, barking and growling
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: at us. What I'd be like, you lie in right now.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, that's like I can imagine that happened.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of places that I've hunted in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: South Dakota, Wyoming, it's like you have a random straight
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: dog come through your decoy spread while you're out there,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's that's not anybody's pet, that's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just a dog out roman doing its thing. We were
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: turkey hunting in a in a remote area of Montana,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I mean as remote as you can getting hunting. Turkey
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: hunting remote area Montagna. At one point I looked out
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: across this large patch of open ground and I'm like,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: what in the world is that. I couldn't tell what
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: was going on. As we got closer to investigated, it
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: was a domestic dog dragging a deer. Domestic dog dragging
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a dead deer through the fields. Yep, very similar story.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Me and you remember Danny Morrison. Oh yeah, Um, me
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and Danny were were turkey hunting in South Dakota and uh,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Danny was trying to get on this one gobbler and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: then this thing just disappeared. A scene wasn't out in
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the field anymore. And uh he pops up over this
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: little ridge to get a glimpse. Put byos up and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: there's this stray dog that had killed this turkey, just
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: out in an open field. Yeah, eating on a turkey
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: out in the middle of grass pasture. You know. Here's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: another quote from her follow up Facebook post. It's hiss.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: My safety was top priority. This animal was growling, howling
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and coming at me like he was going to eat me. Okay,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never met the individual. I don't
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: know that that's true, but that is not outrageous. Yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and even if it's not true, like you say, someone
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: told an outrageous lie, that might be a lie. It
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was not an outrageous lie. Well, I mean either way,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Like you can see how she's just trying to hit
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: completely completely understanding. It's just the yeah, and you've you've
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you've kind of pulled me over to the other side
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to but it's just the Facebook that the complete kind
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of her first post is like I smoked. I smoked
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: this wolf. I'm gonna tell my husband. And the next
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: post is like it was growling and snarling and charging
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: at me. I had no other choice. You know, it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: just kind of it's it's convenient. She's under tremendous dear
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: rest um. And again just we're not summed up yet
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: because I wanted we we need to hear the her
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: boyfriend to say. And and here I respect the um.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: You know you know that Tammy want to stand by
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: your man. This is like stand by your woman, woman, woman.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Now you're you're referring to a follow up Facebook post
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: by the husband, and in that face post, one of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the details that he says is that she has not
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: been filed for any charges. Well you read the whole
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: she will not be filed for any charges, but the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: sheriff's office UM says that they are investigating the thing.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: She's not gonna get in trouble. She shouldn't, man like.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: There were other claims which I don't know how people
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: came upon these that she addressed in the Facebook post
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that she didn't have a wolf tag. She did have
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a wolf tag. She says she has a wolf tag,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: but I don't see anything in the sheriff's office statement
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: saying that she did. It just says it's under no
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I think it was clarified that she had a wolf
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: taga and it kind of doesn't matter. A lot of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: this stuff is this A lot of it's like hate
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the game, not the player. Do you know what I'm saying?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: People are mad because they would have been mad if
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she shot the damn wolf. Uh. Phil, you know that
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you have a little machine that bleeps out obscenities. You're
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: gonna need to get a new one because the one
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you've gotten out is going to be worn out. It's
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be worn out. But I want you to very carefully.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Spencer's gonna read it, and I want you to very
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: carefully bleep the Incenti's out. And I think this will
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: make a phenomenal T shirt. This is gonna make me
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: blush and and like our last uh email T shirt,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: this one lacks punctuation. But don't worry about because Phil
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is gonna bleep it all out. No one will know
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: what it was that you said. That's right. Yeah, it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: just gonna sound like a mad lib when we're done,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: where it's like insert. If we do a T shirt,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we can about check copyright maybe
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the individual, but it would be with all the like
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: dollar signs and asterix and stuff for when you do
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a lot like the last. But here's an individual whose
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: girlfriend is getting death threats and here's his response. Yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even fault them for this. We're talking about
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: making a template that other people could use this for ready. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: any you mother talk all that you cause not one
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: of you mothers are tough enough to act on any
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of your bullshit. Said, If so, come to my place
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: and I'll beat your myself. Yeah, my girlfriend was out
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: hunting and shot a dog that was dumped out in
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the woods. No charges have been filed or will be
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: filed because no laws were broke. It was a dear
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: chasing feral dog on the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So if you want to be a bunch of cry
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: baby sheep, keep going, because we really don't give two
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: fings about what's going on or what's being said. Mistakes happened,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: big deal, you cry baby motherfuls. And for any other
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: hunters who want to talk saying it looks bad, well
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it does, you stupid mother. But mistakes happened. So, like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I said, any you want to act on any of
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: these threats and bullshit, come up, because I got one
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: for you. Sure, I love I totally understand. I don't understand. Uh.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: My favorite part is, like you all you understand it
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: looks bad, Well, yeah, it does. Owning their ship and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: in their intention was not to do what ended up
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: being done. Strip away the strip away the passion, strip
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: away the passion? What what? What is what is left
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: when you strip away the passion? Well, we was my
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: girlfriend made a mistake. She shot a dog. It was
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a dog out in the wild. It was a deer
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: eating dog. It was in the wrong place at the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: wrong time. Sure, it looks bad. Mistakes happen, and no
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: laws are broken. That it's like, okay, strip away the passion.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And it's like you just aren't dealing with people who
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: are that. It's not like you're dealing with irrational people.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: It was a mistake. This sounds kind of irrational because
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: it's infused, you know about infused with passion. Shawn's Duck
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: report minutes on that trying to move on. You are
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: right in that you are one of the only people
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I've seen take this stance on the internet, whether they're
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: in the hunting community or not. That uh this was kosher. No, no, no,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I want you to now, I want you to do this.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what my stance is,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: because I want to make sure you're paying attention to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, I'm not being fair your stances
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: at she made a mistake and that it it could
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: happen to folks, and that that I think that much
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of the anger is coming from people who have a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: problem with something put in place by the state where
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: she lives, and they're deflecting that honor in in a
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: big way. You know, earlier I was saying is because
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: it's a girl. But if it was a dude to
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: be bad, I take that back. I take that part back.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: They'd be pissed at a dude. Oh yeah, were you saying?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm saying that like people kind of what
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a woman does, like a woman goes to Africa and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: get it's almost a little it's like, in a way,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it's a people experience it different. It's that whole Kendall Jones.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: It's like because they're just like, you know, it's just
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: people feel it different. I agree it takes on like
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a sexual that the hatred takes on like a sexual
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: violence kind of think in celt creeping in there a
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: little bit. I think if it were a dude, they
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: probably would have Well, I don't know how do I
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: quantify or qualify like worse, but I think the follow
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: up like a rabid dog and her dog was barking
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: or I felt intimidated, I was, you know, protecting myself.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like something about that would not go over
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: as much if it were dude. Oh yeah, you're right,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: there's something. There's something about that. Dude would have had
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a harder time. A dude would have had a harder
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: time going down that path. Something you can't argue with, though,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: is that it appears as though she did a very
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: good job of skinning out this husky. Great job, what's great?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Like it would have made for a very nice rug
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: if I I mean, I would get it, if if if,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if John Hayes would do it, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I would put the bill to have it done and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: just have to be like, hey, remember that whole deal.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Well there's that, and I don't think it's going to happen.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: But how many people death threat, how many death I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: think you're underestimating how passionate dog would I would if
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I could get it, no matter what I could get it,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I would put it in the I would get it rugged.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I would get it rugged, and I would sell in
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the auction house of oodities. No, that's a that's a sure.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I think I think conservation it would fetch a generous bid.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And let's see if those folks would uh, you know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know that auction house of Oddity's item. Instead
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of that money going to the land Access Initiative of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: our own, I would take the money from that bid
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and give that money to the meal of your foundation.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And I would say in the end, in the end,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: it was good for dear. I think this won't be
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the last update we have on this story. And here's why.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: The Sheriff's has said that they recovered eleven of the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: dogs and they are currently at the animal shelter, but
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: they're not up for adoption at this time. What if
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: we find out in like a week that, like, yeah,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: come get yourself an adult husky. They're super friendly, great
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: family dogs. Uh. We feel very good about their prospects
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: of of going to a home. I am not saying
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that it could have had into anybody. I am saying
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: that when you strip the parts out, it's not as insane,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it's not as agregious as it's being portrayed fair. And
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: also people just like stop with the death threats, Like
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: just stop, like the threat of violence over a dog
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in that's just the internet. Well recently we had the guy.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: There's been three guys that have brought lamas to check
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: stations thinking they had cow elk Okay? Did they all
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: get death threats? They missed they misstook an animal. There
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: was a guy in Colorado shot someone's mule. Thought he
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: shot of cow. Should they be put to death? They
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: shot something thinking it was something that wasn't ye. People
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: just need to do they need to die. I mean,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: stop it, no, no, just like some people take that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: real serious. I don't think the hunter would want I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: don't think the Hunter would want to do this at all.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But if she, if she would come, if she came
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: on the show, I would love to have her on
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the show. How about her husband boyfriend I only did
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I only didn't want to do it, but they wanted
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to come and tell the story. It would be uh.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I would love to have him on the show. I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: bet they come out of this with a renewed fervor
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: in their relationships. Seems like they have a good relationship passionate. Well, listen,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: she was excited to share it. She was like, again,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: let's say it had been wolf. She was excited to share.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: He's defensive of her. It's not like he didn't cut
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and run. No, yeah, no, he's standing binder. Before the
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• 45:12
  Speaker 1: we're tackling kind of a big one in the waterfowl
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: community space right now. When I called John Devney from
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Delta Waterfowl asking for an interview on this subject, his
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: exact answer was, so, you want to write an article
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: on the most difficult waterfowl issue in the Western hemisphere,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So to which you said, yes, I do, and I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I've been off a lot here. It's taken me quite
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: a bit of time to uh right this article right,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: this duck report on this and the subject is the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Klamath Basin in the Oregon California border. Um. For a
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: little context, the Lamath Bason is like Upper Klamath Klamath Lake,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: then Lower Klamath Refuge and Tuley Lake Refuge that drains
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: down the Klamath River. UM. The Lower Klamath Refuge was
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt's first waterfowl refuge, and that really surprises me
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that he got to that before he got to oh, yeah,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: because the waterfowl refuge might be different. But you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: like that real urgency around the shore birds they were
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: shooting for the plintary trade. Yeah, I would have thought
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that would have been one of his first things when
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: we were trying to save all the e grits and stuff, yeah,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: from commercial slaughter. Well, and there's so much, right, there's
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: so much waterfowl habitat and like the East and the South.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Even think about chess Peak Bay, Like during his time,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Chesspeak Bay is getting just raped in pillage for better
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: lack of words, and and he goes and picks the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Klamath all the way over on the west coast. But uh,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the Lower Klamath and Tuly Lake refugees at their week
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: during the late nineteen fifties, we're holding four to five
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: million water birds. Two hundred thousand would migrate to the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: refuge to molt in the summer. Um of all Pacific
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Flyway water birds would stage here. It had more pintails
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in just the Klamath Basin then occurred continentally, like this
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: place is one of the most vital as as Dr
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Chris Nikolai from Delta water Fowl put it. He says,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: this is the second most important refuge system in in
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the entire refuge system, Number one, Yukon Delta. Oh yeah,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be some stuff around the gulf. Yeah,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: yep um. And so all that is to say the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: refuge is now bone dry, I mean, not a drop
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of water in the whole thing. And they've canceled the
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: hunting season for it, uh, which is no surprise because
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: there's no ducks there anyway. And if you go down
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: here to the next kind of page, you'll see a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: picture from Brian Huber. He's a waterfowl biologist out there
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: in California, and uh, the pictures are pretty grim and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: unfortunate because it's just a whole beautiful oasis just cracked,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: dirt and dry. Yeah, cracked, baked, click rock hard, cracked up,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: dried mud man. Yeah, and a lot of schools. You know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: it's important to note, like we are all very aware
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: of the drought that's just persisted across California and Oregon
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and made you know, wetlands having a real hard time
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: in the West. Anyway, California just shut down like three
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: more refugees hunting seasons in the Central valley. But um,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: there's more to the story with Klamath. And I'll try
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to not get too deep into the weeds here because
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: it's a huge thing to tackle. But one of the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: biggest problems that Klamaths faced specifically is uh. According to
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Ron Cole, the former manager of the Klamath Basin the complex,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the refuge complex, he really just has a problem with
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: what the E. S A Has done with the water. Um,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: they discovered two suckers there, the the lost River sucker
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and the short nose sucker in the complex there. That
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: now with the E. S A, a ton of the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: water allocation from the Bureau of Reclamation project there has
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: gone to recovering these two suckers as well as of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: course the threatened Southern Oregon Northern California still co host
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: s and salmon and uh, you know, the E. S
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: A has so much power right that like it kind
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of trump it's the trump card that the water all
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: goes to recovering these these species. And in the early
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: two thousands, two thousand six, ron Cole had kind of
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: helped bring all the partners to the table, all the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: stakeholders so to speak, California or again a bunch of
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Indian tribes, four counties, individual farmers, companies, irrigation districts, seven
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: n g O s. He kind of got them all
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: on one agreement, that was the Klamath Basin Restoration Agreement,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and they all they all signed on with it, and
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Congress never got it past. It just kind of went
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: to the hill to die, so to speak. And so
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: now everyone's kind of fragmented, not all on the same
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: page anymore, and not really getting along like they had before.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the refuge, specifically Lower Klamathan Tuley
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Lake don't have a real water right. They have one
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: that's for agricultural use for thirty five acre feet, and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the Fish and Wildlife Service hasn't like they haven't kind
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of demanded that water from the Bureau Reclamation. They have
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: exercised that water right. And so what you have now
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: is one of the most vital waterfowl habitats in the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: country going bone dry and really no obvious way out
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: in the short term. Um, you know, it's it's it's sad,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: it's sickening. Uh. You know, Ron Cole predicted it when
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't get the restoration agreement past, the refuge would
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: go dry eight out of ten years, and and you
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: just start sterilizing soil right like you're you're baking what's
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: wetland soil. You're you're pretty much cooking organic material. And
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you know, they only had a hundred and twenty nesting
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: ducks on this whole place this year. Um hmm. It's
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a sad deal. And you know, hopefully, hopefully kind of
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: it wakes some people up to the water situation in
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the West as a whole, and like kind of the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: importance of some nuance here. I don't think anyone really
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: has um like the end, he'll be all answer, But
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Ron called Ron Cole put it really interestingly
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to me. He said, the Pacific Flyway is like a
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: three legged stool. You have the Klamath Basin, you have
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the Central Valley in California, and you have the Bear
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: River Watershed right Salt Lake in Utah, and those three um,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: those three places are kind of what props up and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: holds up the Pacific Flyways ability to have ducks. And
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Central Valley in California is that like, you know, wetland
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: loss and hardly any water salt lake is going dry.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: One's bone dry dry. And then Salt Lake is like
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone's predicting five years type thing, and so yeah,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you you kind of just have this pervasive problem that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: hopefully I hope it sucks that it has to get
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: this bad for people to wake up to it, but
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you hope it's actually at this point like a wake
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: up call. We got to do something with. I was
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: gonna ask an ignorant question about like, well, they're birds,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: like can they not like fly to some other habitat
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: in the area, But it sounds like all the habitat
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: has gone some and evoly will but you're not gonna
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: right it's it's yeah, for sure in the short term, right,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: they can go to other places. The problem is just
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: a when you look landscape wide and when you have
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: a net habitat loss right, eventually a carrying capacity of
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the flyway just continues to decrease and you have um,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you know of all of California nesting mallards. California used
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: to nest a lot of mallards in the Central Valley
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: of those would all fly to the Klamath for their
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: summer molt. And now it's like they're gonna fly there
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: and find what bear dirt. Um some will figure something out,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: but you'll have just a massive net loss birds. Man. Yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: And I think one of the interesting questions that brings
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: up is, you know, there's no such thing as a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: free lunch, right how how far can you take it
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: when you are pushing water down a stream for the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: salmon to keep the water cooler before they eventually take
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: out these klamath damns um as they allocate you know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: acre feet of water for these um suckers, as they
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: allocate water the little water they do have to these
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: other things, like how far do you pursue you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: they the e s a right before before it's like
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: at the expense of everything else there. Yeah, you have
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: some conservation dependent species they're hanging on by a thread,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and someone might ask, is it worth losing of our
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: ducks to save a conservation dependent species that is almost
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: certainly doomed anyway? Yeah, and you know the extinctions forever man. Yeah,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's well, yeah, there's no I'm not saying that
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like I have that. It's a tough one because you
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: could also be like we you know, maybe we'll get
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: some great wet years and it won't be an issue anymore.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: But that's not what climate models are showing. No, climate
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: models are showing that this is the new norm. Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: And you just have you know, you have more development,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: you have more egg like, you have so many more
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: things demanding water. Is the time of less water. I
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: can see someone saying, like, is there a Sophie's choice
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: do remain here? That you'd say, um, that you'd say
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that that it's too bad. It's heartbreaking. But some of
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: these things are gonna some of these things that are
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: are gonna have to step aside to make way for
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the longevity of things that have a greater a greater
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: capacity to hang on. Right, Yeah, I mean the Klamath
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Basin used to be four hundred thousand acres of wetland
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: habitat and then it's now like it's zero. Right, It's
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: things can this isn't gonna be but things can turn
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: with with with impounded water, with watersheds, things can turn
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: around so fast. But this is this is turning into
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a long, long issue. Yeah, it's not like a freakish year.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: It's the new norm. Yep. Especially in the West. You
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: know there's oh god, what was that. It's like Malika
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Luka there's a lake that sits right about Pyramid Lake. Um,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that's like Applia, right over the hill from Pyramid Lake.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: That was the Dr. Chris nick I explained this to me.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: It was our first. It has the distinction of being
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: our first National Wildlife refuge to be sold because it
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: just went dry and was never gonna have water again.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Hasn't had a duck on it in eighty years. You know. Yeah,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's a dry playa and put something else. Yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: they sold it off man turned it into BLM ground
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and you know that's it sucks to say, but that's
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: where you see some of these other things going. Unless
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I guess hopefully, Um, if anything, there's kind of a
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: there's kind of new spirit of the the actual current
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: refuge manager John Brandenburg. He he said to me, he said,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I have hope that this is what brings everyone back
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: to the table and gets everyone do like agree, Hey,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: we need clean water going down the river for the salmon.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: How do you get clean water? You put it through
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a wetland. Right. Um, you know, we need a little
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: bit more equity because what we're doing is not working.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: And you know he he also said, how beautiful would
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it be right too to have like Teddy Roosevelt's first
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: waterfowl refuge be kind of the pivotal moment of wetlands
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: in the West, Like we find a way to get
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: through this and and create a solution together, and our
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: generation be like the ones that like save the Klamath
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: for the long haul. Yeah, should be cool, but it's
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: interesting or deal. You know, Pacific flyways got like the
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: most liberal limits. They can shoot seven ducks of person
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: out there. They have the longest days. Um, but that's
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna last long. You keep losing all your wetlands
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and all your water. You waterfowl hunter in the aerials
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: step up, Yeah, totally. The part of the problem that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: happened with the different sucker species is you didn't have
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: a huge advocacy advocacy group arguing on their behalf the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, you know, no one was knowing, people
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: weren't watching, people weren't yelling, right, And it winds up
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: in a situation where it becomes a federal e s
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: a issue and hunters, you know, hunters and angers get
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: criticized for being overly focused on the stuff there, being
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: overly focused on trying to conserve the resources that they
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: like to go after. It's like, least someone's doing it. Yeah,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, you just because you want to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: shoot him. It's like, well, first, it's more complicated than that.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: And second, wouldn't it be great if every species had
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: an advocacy group like this? Yeah, most people don't advocate
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: on behalf of any species. So to to knock on
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: hunters for advocating on behalf of the ones they like,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, great, buddy, go advocate on behalf of the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: ones you like. Yeah, or have you never done that? Right? Yeah?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And now you have? Right, you have even birders like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: piste Off in the Pacific Flyway because all of a sudden,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: what they, you know, kind of had they were able
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: to kind of take for granted, right, was all these
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: beautiful refuges that they could go bird at. Now all
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of a sudden they can't. Uh. An interesting thing about
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  Speaker 1: the the advocacy thing, you know, obviously I have a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: bias of wetlands, right, Like, there's a reason I love
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: wetlands involving duck hunting. But I think one of the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: things here is you can't ever deny the importance of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: a wetland on a landscape. I mean, they are just there,
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  Speaker 1: just essential for everything. And you know, at the same
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  Speaker 1: time that the salmon down river are facing like slow
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: warm water, dirty water, and they've got these like parasite
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  Speaker 1: issues in this salmon population, and they're pushed more water
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  Speaker 1: down river to try to speed up the water and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: make the water cooler. At the same time, they're like
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: neglecting the most easy obvious filter for that water, which
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: is the wetlands. But hopefully, hopefully something changes. You know,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: there's at least a lot of attention on it now. Ye,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So if you want to find out more and look
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: at some pictures and stuff, well the Clamath basin and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: the whole situation with Pacific Flyway waterfoule, will check out
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Shawn's big article at the meater dot com. What are
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you gonna call it? Ah, yeah, I'm not I don't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: know the exact title yet, but involved the clam It's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: there right now. Go to the meater dot com and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: you'll find Shawn's article. And we got Austin Riley back
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: with us here, so we're gonna get into We're gonna
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get into talking about him now. Oh so, hey,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: this this. This is an interesting thing. I mean, this
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: has just happened. This will help get us into this
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: will help get us into sports talk. So we've covered
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: if you listen to the show, you've become somewhat of
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a subject matter at brewn walleye tournaments because of our
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: very own Seth and Chester engaging in the Montana Walleye Tour.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: So we've learned all about walleye tours and bags and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: all that. Well, yesterday I get a text Seth yesterday.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Sets not with us right now, but Seth yesterday text
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  Speaker 1: me a YouTube video titled Walleye Cheaters Busted. We got
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: weights and fish. So this is a walleye tournament in Cleveland, Ohio,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: and two anglers, Jake Running and Chase Comiskey, weighed in
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a five fish limit that went just over thirty three pounds.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: This is yesterday, so it says like this is posted
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  Speaker 1: thirteen hours ago. After being announced winners and also Team
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: of the Year. The tournament master, like the tournament director,
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  Speaker 1: cut open their fish found eight pounds of lead sinkers
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and five fish. Also, I just talked to set this morning.
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  Speaker 1: They also the fish were stuffed full of walleye flas whoa,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: which is smart because some of these things they had
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: like four hounds lead sinkers in them. So how how
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: no one ever just pell painated? Oh that you I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: mean like like if you ran your hand over the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: if you just ran your hand over a fish, you know,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: it's not normal to find a rock hard? Can you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: explain how agreed just this is? Like just well yeah,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: because there's there's like all the stuff they've won. I mean,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: you know, these guys might win sixteen grand, twenty grand
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: in a tournament and these are just small you know,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: these are hobby anglers. Well you're inna here how piste
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: off people are when we're gonna play this little bit
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: of this YouTube it but uh yeah, I had a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: pair of fish impliers. Walleye plays all kinds of lead weights.
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  Speaker 1: And what's weird about this tournament is the fish are dead,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: you know, like normalet terments are always working to keep
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the fish alive. On the big tournaments. They put him
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: in these holding tanks, and the holding tanks have earth
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: magnets in them to search for stuff, and they're scanning fish.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: But Sets says, apparently these guys last year after winning
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: failed to polygraph. But uh failed to polygraph. But the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: evidence has already been destroyed, so this has been long suspected.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: And then this this video on YouTube's fifteen minutes long,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: but in it you see all the guys coming away
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: in and Sean, we're gonna play the clip where the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: discovery happens. But you can hear there's a lot of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: grumbling where guys are like, but my fish are bigger
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: than that. You can hear people be like, understand, there's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: no way, He's like, let me this, guys, let me
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: see those fish. We had fish that were bigger that.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: There's no way those fish way that. And things quiet down.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: And then and then here here's what happens in the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: YouTube clip. We got weights and there we go. I
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: love that. Everybody was like cheering after the bat. Oh,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: it was like brewing man like, people knew, people knew,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: and people here you were getting on the fact that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: so they they had weights, and they also were stuffing
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: them with walife filets. So apparently at first, like the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: first thing they cut one, he cuts one fish open.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: You see a guy that's down there fiddling with the fish,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and he cuts one open and screams that out, and
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: the and the announcer. The announcer cox back basically is
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: because the guy is standing right there like people are
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: braiding the guy. He's sustaining with staring at the ground
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: like he's there's nothing he can do, right, he's so busted.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: But the first thing on the announce, the first impulse
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: the announcer has, he cocks back like he's gonna give
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: that dude the biggest haymaker, but just does an air
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: punch instead. Next I think he was throwing him out
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: like a baseball umpire throws out a manager, just just arguing.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: That's what he did. He threw him. See. I thought
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: he was like, I'm gonna hit him in the face,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: but then changed his mind to the air punch. That's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: how you read it. Yeah, Austin, have you been thrown
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: out of a game before? Show him the video and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: then and then he can decide. At one time, rookie ball, Um,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: that's the only time I ever been thrown out. Other
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: than that, Um, I drew a line a ball was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: like it wasn't even close, Like and I was you know,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I was eighteen. I was stupid, and and that's like
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: the last thing you can do. And like I tried
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: to like discreetly, like as I might walking across the plate,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I kind of like behind my back, I draw a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: line and I ended up getting tossed, So like like
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: obviously you got the plate and you know ball's gotta
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: cross it anyway. It was like in the other pretty
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: much in the other's batter's box. And I was just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: showing the umpire where where it came across. So you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: were saying, in case, this is actually where it crossed.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: If you really want to know where it was, where
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, now you decide if this snare punch
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: or if he's getting thrown out like an umpire would.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: So the announcers on the it's that guy, the guy
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: that's cutting here, and he said get the f out
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: of here. So yeah, I think he was like, well,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I was trying to. I was trying to we can
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: make it that way for the a TV mini series. Yeah,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: when when you make a Netflix movie out of it'll
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: be that. He just he just gives him how many
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: pounds of fish like coming at the way and where
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: you like look at a small fish and like what
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: it or a small a pile of small fish and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: you you like, eyeball, what approximately that should weigh and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: then it's like seven times more with these fish that
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: are known, so it's not like a three pounds shark. Yeah,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: But also I was gonna I was gonna ask. Also
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, was there a big difference in like first instance,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, okay, So it's not like it was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: just like well maybe not in that one right because
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: of eight pounds of lead, probably a little bit of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: a game. Well no, because people have to watch the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: whole thing. It was like there's another team that had
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: overt right, So it was it was definitely they put it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Now apparently forty eight states have just like flat out
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: rule against cheating in any tournament. So he's got it's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: probably criminal. Oh yeah, very criminal. Most places, there's ane
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: that talks about how the two angler team had won
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: three thousand dollars and victories. Wow, that's all going to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: be under scrutiny now, Like I'm sure, Well, those guys
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: have won an article from you know, almost a year ago,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: so they were like prolific anglers in this area. Many
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: like mischievous. It's like felony still in money, Say, what's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the worst cheating you've ever done? Uh? I grew up
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: loving baseball in the late nineties, and you know, it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: was like it's hard to talk about cheating without with
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: a baseball player, without talking about steroids. Man, it's just
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: like the height of all the people watch like I was,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you could not miss the Cardinals play when Mark McGuire
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: was was chasing it was chasing that that that record,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: and no one, i mean maybe people were thinking that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I was pretty young at the time, but no one
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: was like looking at this guy thinking like why does
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: he look like he just got stung by a hundred bees?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Like no man should be should look like this. And
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: then and then the effect that that had on the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: week for a few years was was massive. I don't
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: know from someone who's like now a professional baseball player
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and he's that you still kind of feel that kind
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: of that that with the weight of the steroid. No,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's pretty it's pretty gone. Yeah, I mean we're
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: testing now. It's like you can't. Yeah, I mean we're
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: getting we've had c DT. They're like, which the guys
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: that drugged us is I mean starting It's been like
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: they've been there like every day for the last like
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: two weeks, and like randoms whether it's blood tests or
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: you know here, and so it's like they've cracked down
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: on it so hard. It's like guys aren't Yeah, guys
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: aren't getting away with it. They're just over yeah and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: sophisticated beyond, Like it's not just anabolic steroids they're looking
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: for anymore. Yeah, they're looking forever. And like I said,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: it's like the they're taking blood. It's like you just can't,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: you can't get away with it. When did you guys
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: when you were born? You were born in Tennessee, moved
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: in Mississippi, right, Yeah, so I lived I lived in
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: her Yeah, and I've never lived in Tennessee, like physically
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: lived in Tennessee. Um. Um, I've lived in Hernando, Mississippi,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: which is twenty minutes from Memphis. So it's like Memphis
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: was the closest hospital. So that's that's that's why. Yeah,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: it's like that's the only place to go. Um My
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: buddy is always you know, especially on the team, you're
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: not from Mississippi or from Tennessee. I'm like, oh, that's why.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I was always always like Mississippiromssissippi, Mississippi, and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: that's born in Memphis. Tenn because your parents drove over
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: there the way. But birth certificate says Memphis, Tennessee, so
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: you can't argue with it. He could still help out
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: with the Squirrel cook Off though, Oh yeah, we should
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: talk about this. How connected to Tennessee? Do you feel
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: like a strong, super strong connection? Not really to Memphis
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: area though, right, I go up like I went up
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: there one time this all season for Luke Kong's concert.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: That's the only time. So I don't don't, I said,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I get enough of somewhat of a big city, so
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: I stay stay secluded as possible. We ever got to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: meet Luke Oh yeah, yeah, he came into the locker
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: room about a love over a month ago. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: he's getting a great No, he doesn't know. He doesn't
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: know about this either, but so we're going to ramp
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: it up. Well, here's the thing we're trying to work on,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: so you might you might have to come up because
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: if you can make it, we're trying to work on
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: this sing where uh there's we're trying to get. There
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: were some people that wanted to move the National Squirrel
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: cook Off. World Squirrel cook Off has always been in Arkansas,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: and they wanted to bring it to Tennessee, but the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: animal rights people got onto it and like they're they
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: lost their venue. So we're trying to bring it back
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: with a band. Yeah, you might need to bring up
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: a squirrel dish. I can do that and you can
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: revisit your birthplace the kill Messa squirrels one morning. So
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: when when you were growing up there, what was the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: what was the How did you get introduced to hunting
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: and fishing? Um? So I got introduced really by my
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: my uncle, like bow hunting. Um my dad hunted. My
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: dad grew up in Demas, Arkansas, small town. Um, die
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: hard duck hunter. Yeah, that's good duck hunting country right there. Um,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: die hard duck hunter. Like he tells me stories all
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: the time. This is when to me, he said, when
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: ducks were around. He doesn't think ducks ducks around anymore.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: That's a common malady that happens when you get older. Yeah,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: they're not around as perhaps where you hunted them, you know,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: or they turned it into a Walmart or something, you know,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: and it just seems like the whole world ended. Yeah.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: So he you know, he said he they used to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: wake up in the morning kill limon and Mallard go
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: to class like every the morning. So it's like and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: then kind of, as you know, my sister came around,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I came around, my brother came around. He just kind
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: of stopped. Uh. He's more of a camp guy who
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: loves to cook, um, have a having cocktail along with it. Um.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: But really, my uncle Heath introduced me to to to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: deer hunting. Um why on Mississippi every weekend. I got
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: the chance too. I was going down there um and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: and just spending the weekend with him hunting. Killed my
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: first actually killed my first deal with a rifle there,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: killed my first boat or a dealer with the bow
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: there um and ever since then? What was that? Why?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: The Mississippi not not far from Startville, Mississippi State, about
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: an hour west of there. So did uh where'd you
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: wind up going to? So? What high school? Did you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: go to? Sota Central? Uh? In South Haven, Mississippi? And
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: by that point you were hardcore baseball? Yeah? At that point,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I this is as as soon as I
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: could pick up a bat, I was swinging a baseball bat,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: um and and just fell in love with it. My
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: my dad, um, you know, was a sports guy. He
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: punted at Mississippi State. UM played baseball there for his
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: freshman year and then just just went to football only.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: So we were always doing sports UM and just gravitated
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: towards towards baseball versus football or basketball. There had to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: have been though, man, Like, there had to have been
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: either or or this or that moment. There's this there's
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: this quote by Jim Harrison. I aishually I had it
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: with me. The writer Jim Harrison has this quote. We're
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: talking about where he grew up. He said that at
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: at some age it was either there was kids that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: had a baseball bat when they're riding their bike down
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: the road, or the kids that had a fishing pole.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: And he said, and they might intermix a little bit,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: but their destinies were set, you know. But that didn't
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: happen to you, Like, how was this sort of you
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: know what I mean when you how was it figuring
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: that out? Like from hunting, just like when you were young? Yeah,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, to be involved in something that
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: would be if you're good at it, you have promised
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: at it. It requires unbelievable dedication. You can't be distracted, right,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: and then you have to be looking at the stuff
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna do, right, Yeah, I know. I mean
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I remember growing up and and in the summers it
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, all my buddies were going to
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: the lake, all my buddies were going to the pool,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: they were going on vacation, and I was going to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: play baseball. Um And it was just you know, one
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: of those things that I love so much. Um And
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: it just like I said, it kind of what I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: was saying back earlier, is like I get the best
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: of both worlds. Like it's that's how it was even
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: you know, growing up, It's like summers were baseball winners
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: were hunting, and it's just like that's what that's what
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I did. Um and and and it was for me,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: it was an easy choice between baseball and football. Like
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I I liked football, um, but I knew just the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I think the tension to the small details that the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: game of baseball, you know, you have to understand and
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and focus on the mental side of the game. Like
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I think that was what you know, attracted me so much.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: There was so much uh little side, you know, the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: little things that the side of the you know, baseball,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: that that I think attracted me more. Um. And like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: I said, just being able to do baseball and then
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: one or for my hunting season. Yeah, I was thinking
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: about that earlier when we were talking about your last
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: five games after a hundred and sixty two games, that
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: it can come down to like a few pitches. You
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: know that that level of detail and statistical and nominally
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: in baseball, like this is not football. And that's that's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: what I think. Some fans get so bored with it
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: and they you know, baseball is boring, it's like, but
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: when you really dive into it, it's like, you know,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: there's so like the tens in the detail is so
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: huge in the game. Like you know, it's like, you know,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: if I say there's a guy on first and you know,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: somewhat of a slow runner, and I have an opportunity
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: to turn double play, I don't, um, you know, that
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: guy ends up staying on first or second or whatever
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: it may happen. It's like that guy ends up base hit,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: scoring and run. It's like, you know, looking back at
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: the end of the game, it's like, if I would
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: have turned that double play, the game's you know, you know,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: we may be when it when about one versus losing
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: by one and so it's like that small stuff is
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: to me is what you know? I think I love
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: so much of it. And you have that level of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: knowledge about all the players, like you know that someone's
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: a slow run. Yeah, yeah, we and part of it
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: like analytically, you know, it's taken over to the game
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: so much. It's like if I don't know if you've
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: noticed last night, it's like every between every batter, I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: was like pulling out this card in my pocket and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: it shows like where you know, it kind of gives
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: us an idea where to play. You know, it has
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: you know, how fast the guy I like plus minus
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: like whether guy runs fast? Like that. You know what's
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: funny because I kept saying I was saying to someone's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: like that dude just pull a phone out of his
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: pocket and he's like, there's no way from the Diamondbacks.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Did you'all see that happen? Yeah, the guys, that's what
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: you say, There's no way he had a phone. No. No,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: It's like we have like a little card they do
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: all like their their you know, analytical work. We get
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it um and it kind of helps us, you know,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: you know, we still play like the the eye test
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: of you know, we can make adjustments if we want to,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: but we you know, it's very helpful. Is that kind
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: of what what you're you're referencing when you start mixing
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: up how you guys are shifting up. Okay, so yeah,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: that's that's where we get get our information. Are you
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: happy or disappointed at the shift? He's going away happy
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: in a way because I don't have to run the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: right field. Um, you potentially we're shifting all the way
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: to write, Yeah, I don't know if I want. I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: went I went out to shallow right field. Yes, a
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: couple of times. Um, you know, I'm I'm excited at
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: that I don't have to do that next year. But
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: at the same time, like the rule is is you
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: have to have to position players on each bag or
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: each side of the bag next year of second base.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: My thought process was, as long as you have a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: foot in in the dirt. I was just like, take
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: away the extremes, like the guys that go all the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: way out to right field. But it is what it is, um,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: and I think it'll you know, it'll help some guys
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: from a hitting standpoint, and it takes you know, and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: then shows the value of you know, a true defender
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: of like the range. H you gotta have that that
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: side of it next year, so it'll be cool. How
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I know, you probably can't get into too much detail,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: but how um, how specific is the card? I mean,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: you don't have a card on every player, right or
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: not a card on every player, but like we have
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: every player um and then I mean it's pretty basic.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's you know, whether we're shifting
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: or not. Um and that, Like I said, that just
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: tells me if I'm if I'm going to right field
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: or not. And then um, if if he's you know,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: if he's a speed guy or if he's a slower guy.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: That just kind of helps us tell you know, how
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: much that game clock of you on our mind, of
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: how much time I have to to get the guy
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: out and hurt to find someone's card and find your
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: name on it. It's a slow guy, that's me. I'm
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: that guy on someone's car that's like, hey, all the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: time in the world. Just can you tell us what
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: he might say about Pete Alnto, Like what a few
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: things details about it? He's straight up, which I mean,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: that's kudos to him. He gets the ball, you know,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: you've seen it, like he has the ball power all
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: sides of the field. Um, I want to say he's
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: an equal, like what we call an equal guy, Like
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: he gets down the line pretty pretty fine. So, um,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: nothing nothing bad to say about Pete. Hey, you know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: speaking of running fast, who wasn't found talk what's the
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: dude that has the race? Like the seventh inning race?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: I was hoping that the freeze. I know, I'm very shocked.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: He normally there every day I checked there. Explain this
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, So they what they do is um
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: and this is exclusive to Braves games. Right, So they
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: start on one side of the foul pole in the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: warning track and they pick a random person in the fans.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, do you want to beat the freeze?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Where do they try to find like a fast looking dude?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: They because the dude that they had last day who
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: gets to do the run to get the base. So
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: that guy he looked like you went and found like
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: a pretty I mean, that wasn't just a random dude.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: There's been guys that have beat the freeze. And yeah,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: and there's been guys that pulled Hammy's Uh, they've beat
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: the free There's been guys that have a dirt that
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: have tripped, um, so I think they just go pretty random.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: But it's well, you got a nice little kick out
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: of it, especially, like I said, a guy that's you know,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: not stretched and he's about halfway there and he checks
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: up because his hamstring is pulled, and it's like it's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: like John Colt. It's like Coulter's run right, Like the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: guy gets the head start. Yeah, yeah, guy gets like
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: a fifteen you know yard yard head start, and you
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: know he normally he's can roll you. Yesterday should shows
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: you for that. Yet to night will make it happen
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: to me. Man. Yeah, it goes viral a few times
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: a year because somebody trips and falls and, like you said,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: gets a serious injury. It's entertaining itself. What do you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: have like a home hunting set up? Or is that
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: just out of the question because you can't do all
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: you can't keep track of this. So I'm in a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: hunting club on the Mississippi River in tunica Um. It's
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: it's four thousand acres um just just west of Tunaka, Mississippi.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's like twelve of us in it um
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: and that that's what that's why I you know, when
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I'm home, that's where where I hunt. So you got
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: a spot where, even though you can't pay any attention
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: to that stuff because you gotta focus, You've got a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: spot that your friends and stuff just roll right into.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so, um, the way it works is, um,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: like I said, there's twelve of us. One of my
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: my best friends is in it um will Craft and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: his dad and so they you know with this new
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Spartan you know they sell ear cameras are awesome this
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: time of year. Like I'm sitting in my locker ro
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm glued to it um because I'm you know, I'm
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: checking them. Um. Oh yeah. So they, like said, they
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: fortunate enough. They kind of set everything up, you know,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: feed um whatever it may be. You know, hang some
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: stands move from cameras around so that, like I said,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: when I whenever I do get home, you know I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: can I can roll right into it. How do you, uh,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about all the analytics and all the
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: stuff to keep track of and all the studying, what's
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: your when when? And how do you just zone out?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: I mean during season like as far as just that
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: you I don't know, watch some dudes getting in a
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: fight at a Walleye Tearraman on YouTube or whatever. I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: mean talking about during before games. No, I mean just
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: like in your schedule. I'm pretty low key. I'm not
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: gonna lie like I don't like to. I'm not one
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: of those guys that's sitting, you know, in my hotel
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: room and like I'm studying film or um. You know
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna check them like the next next day. Starter. Um.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: But you know, to me, it's like over a hundred
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: and sixty two games. If if you like, you gotta
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: step away from it. Um or you know, I like
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: to play golf on the on the road. If if
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I get an off day, you know, I'll try to
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: hit the links just to do something different. It's like
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: like I said, you're we may have like two to
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: three days off in a month, and it's just like
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I said, it's so repetitive every day. It's like hotel
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: field home field, hotel field home field. So it's like
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: doing something different. Um. I think is is huge from
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: from the middle side of it. So you know, I
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: lock in once I get to the yard. Um, like
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I said, I'll figure out who's pitching that night. Once
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I get to the yard, I'll go in to do
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: some homework. We you know, we have an app on
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: our phone that we're able to log in and um.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: And you know, kind of like I said, do your
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: homework short to speak of of what that picture is
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: gonna try to do to you that night. Um. But
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, at at the same time,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: there's some you know, definitely got to step away at points.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: You've also always been a part of like competitive teams
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: in the majors. And imagine you know, people who play
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: for a club that is eliminated from playoff contention by July,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: they like do feel that law more than you do.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: It's it's probably a lot easier stay engaged when you're
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: like always in the hunge. Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: like I said, it's like you're always looking, you know,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: even like this year, it's like you're always watching the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: box scores of the Mets. Um. We're we're seeing how
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: they're doing. Um. And I think that's that's the beauty
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: of its. Like you said, you're you're playing for something. Uh,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: You're not just out there you know, trying to you know,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be for For teams that you know,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: aren't aren't in a playoff contingent. But like I said,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: being able to being fortunate enough to be on a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: team that you know, competes every year, it it definitely
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: makes it, you know, a lot easier to to go
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: out there every day. And like I said, you're you're
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: playing for something, you know at the end of the year.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: You know how the president has an intelligence briefing where
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: people come in they right take it all down for it,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: you have to do your own like do you have
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: does someone present to you about what's going on? Or
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: you have to do your own research. You have you
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: have to go over the materials yourself. Uh no, like
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I said, that's like analytical side of the game is
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: like grown so much in the last three or four years. Um.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: So like we get we have we have hitters meetings,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: like we go over like scouting report um I Like
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I said, I just said that we we get a
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: scouting report on the picture. Someone for someone presents the
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: information someone verbally presents the information to that verbally and
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: we get like paperwork on it. Um at the field
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: and we can, um you know, go over and take
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: all take as much or as little information as we
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: want and like I said, form form a game plan.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah who who? Uh So it's probably the most demanding
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: for the picture, I would say, so, um, just because
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: is they're seeing so many different guys like me and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: all his personality right right. So it's like for me,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: it's like I may see you know, I may say
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: one guy one night for guys really good um that night,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: or I may see four four guys. Um. So, but
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: you know they're seeing you know, for sure nine you know,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: pinch hitting, you may see ten or eleven. Uh So,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's definitely more more important for for them.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: What's it like to have all your all your finances
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: just become like national news story, We'll you know what
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like yeah, yeah, to be like he will
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: get this much money in this ten years and all
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: of a sudden. I mean, it's just there's no sort
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: of like politeness about like actually, you know, don't know
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: what Bob makes. You know, it's gotta be like you
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: gotta feel pretty early on, you know, early on in
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: my career, I was, you know, a little a about it.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: But then it's like, you know, oh, I'm not gonna
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: step away from it because of that reason. So you
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: just kind of not to sign the contract. I just
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: don't want everybody to know. So, yeah, it's one of
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: those things you embrace, you just kind of get over it. Uh,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. Sean and I were talking about.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: There was a player last night. I was having a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: couple of had a couple of rough plays, and the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: guy in front of us just yelled out his contract amount,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's like it was the thing his
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: insult at the player was to yell out his contract amount.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Was it was it Rosario? Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, which
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: was a weird, weird thing to this, I can imagine.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: So you had you you have, um, you signed a
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: contract with the Braves. It was uh hadn't been done
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: before like a link time. Yeah yeah, um, thank you Braves.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Uh No, very very fortunate. Um. You know I I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: it made sense to me, um to to just be here,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully for the rest of my career. I mean,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I my family's five hours from here, you know, in Mississippi. Um,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: my wife and I had some family that lives here. Um,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the organization is great, you know, the family
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: relations are great. You know, having a little one that
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: just you know, it it made too much sense for
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: for me not to you know, to to sign something
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: that was that was long term here. So when you
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: when you did that, was it just kind of like, um,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: in terms of aspiration and career, when you got to
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: that point, it's just like a side relief. Where is it, like,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: holy cow, man, now I really got to like performed
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: for a long time, or else I'm gonna feel like dirt,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: you know. Um. And definitely was the side relief, just
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: because you know, up until that point, you know, I
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: could have been traded, you know, the next day, or
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: or you know, I you know, a career injury that
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: could happen. I could you know, not know what was
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: my next move. Um. So you know, like I said,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: it was just you know that that right there alone,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I think took a lot of weight off my shoulders,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: just knowing that, you know, my family set up for
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: the for the you know, the rest of your life.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: You know, don't have to worry about college for for
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: a little man, like any any of those things. All
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: the financial side of it was taken care of. But
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like, Okay, now, you know,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I expect more out of myself. Fans to expect more
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: out of me, so that that definitely, you know, plays
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: and I could picture that just being a huge you know,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: because then there's sort of this uh it's like the
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: fans everyone they've bought something and now it better turn
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: off um And And to me, that's like it's like
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: another thing that like I love. It's it's just like, hey,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: I got I gotta just another reason to work harder
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: and and try to try to perform better. Is just
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: you know, try to be that guy that fans can
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: rely on, my teammates can rely on um And and
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's the beauty of it. To me, I
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: spend a silly amount of time fantasizing about like the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: deer hunting property i'd buy if I were to win
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: the lottery or something. Now that you sign this contract,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: is that on your radar that you're gonna get a
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: farm Mississippi? I want? I would love to own some
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: uh some land behind the levee um by the Mississippi River.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Just um. Growing up hunting in the hills of Mississippi.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Deer on is big. Being in this camp that I
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: am in now behind the levee Um. There's some giants
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: that walk around there sneaky sneaky giants, swamp donkeys. Yeah,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: there you go. Um No, so that's definitely in the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: in the works and hopefully in the next couple of years.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: What about like when farm two comes around, is that
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be Mississippi as well? Are you thinking somewhere else?
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: If you know, if I whatever purchase another piece, um
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  Speaker 1: out of state Illinois, I would love to be able to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you know I could be there in five,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: five or six hours. Um, not not far um, Like
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I said, would love a love a piece up there somewhere.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Are you actively looking for stuff? Um? Always? Even even
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: before I signed the contract, Like I said, it was
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: a dream, Like I've always drained owing in my own
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: land and um, you know, building it for the better,
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  Speaker 1: for for wildlife. My grandfather farmed, Um, so I was,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: you know, own a tractor riding around. Yeah. So it's uh,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's owning a piece, you know that's
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  Speaker 1: you know, half of it's we call it like the
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: wet side, which is on the Mississippi side of the levee,
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  Speaker 1: or the dry side. Um, you know, whether it's half
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: and half farming a little bit, you know, definitely want
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: to want to do something just for people who aren't familiar.
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  Speaker 1: Can you explain when you when you talk about blow
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: the levee or so there's a huge levey. Yeah, there's
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: a huge level that runs down the Mississippi River. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just you know a flood flood you know,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: flood levee. Um. So just on the other side, like
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: on the wet we called the wet side, which is
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: the side closest to to uh to the river. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Just it's something about the just huge old um oak tree.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I mean just trees are huge. I mean it's just
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: different to me. It's like old forest. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you you go on the other side, it's
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: just like completely different. It's crazy. It's like when you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: go over there, it's like you're into me. You're in
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: a whole another another world. Well it hasn't been so
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: manipulated by man ye right. And then like you said,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: you're right there at the delta. So it's like on
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: the other the dry side, it's like straight flat pretty
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: much all farmland. Um. So it's I love spending time
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: behind behind the levee. H. That's a good term. Yeah,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: that's good. So what are your what are your plans
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: this year? When you get down? Your season gonna lay low? Uh?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: You know we had little man, uh my my son
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: eastan April, So, um, gonna gonna lay low this this
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: offseason because I hadn't got to spend a whole lot
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: of time with him. Um, I know, I'm going to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Nebraska to hunt, uh hunt up there. It's kind of
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: like my my year, my yearly thing that I do.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: But other than that, almost stay stay around the house.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and just you know, spend as much time with
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: him as possible. So like you got any trips you'll
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: have to cancel if things go good. Uh no, that's
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: I said, that's that's the only one I got I
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: got planned this year. So did you mean your kid
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: after the Baseball bat Company? No? So a lot of
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: people's tea. Yeah even better. Um is it true that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: you got that so your your son was born during season? Yeah?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: You guys get what's your what you guys get like
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: a three day fraternity leave or how does that work? Yeah?
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: So three days? Is I mean obviously if you need more,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: they do? You know? Alex is as good about it? Um?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Were you playing on birth? And? Oh? Yeah? So I
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: listen to that. So we were in l a um
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: and Anda was, you know, call She called me a
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: couple of times like hey, I'm having these weird you
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: know pains, and it's just you know, it's like every
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Like I was like, maybe you know, call um,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: what's what's the terms. She's not. It's not there like
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: the doctor, uh, midwife, midwife. Um, there it is. So
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: I was like call her and just like see if
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: you need to come in or whatever. And she was
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: like they're called her And doctor was like, oh, they're
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: probably just Braxton Hicks like you know, drink a bunch
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: of water and put your feet up, blah blah blah.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: So um, this was like twenty minutes for game time.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: So I was like I told our trainer George. UM,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, we call Anna just to make
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: sure she knows, like if anything goes on to call
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: you like that way I can you know, get get
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: on plane and go. Um middle of the game, you know,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the middle of the game. Um. You know,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: George gets a call and it's going to the hospital. Um.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: And at this point I think we're in like the
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: seventh or eighth inning. They start looking at flights. There's
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: no you know, no private flights that are gonna get
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: me in there any earlier, you know, commercial flights. There
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: was like the Red Eye was like the only thing
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I could take at this point because you know the
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: time change and stuff. Um so you're in you said
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: you're in Los Angeles, Yeah, in l A. She's here.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: So her her aunt ends up coming, get to her,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: take her to the hospital. You know this is you
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: know she's going, she's getting ready. Um as soon as
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the games over with George is like, hey, you gotta flight,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: you gotta leave. So like I'm like straight panic mode,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: go get in the shower. They get me a car,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: send me to the airport. Did you did you have
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: the bat while this is going on? Well they didn't.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: They luckily they didn't tell me, um because they well
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: there was no there was like there was no reason
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: too because the only flight I could take was a
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: mental like so they were they weren't pulling me out
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: like there's no sense and pulling me out of the game.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Um So, but they're working at it. Yeah, they're they're
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: all like behind talking to my agent, getting every trying
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: to get everything ready. Um So, as soon as the
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: game is over, I shower, rush to the you know,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: the airport, UM to take the Red Eye, and like
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: seven thirty I get a text from you know, Anna's sister,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: your dad, and I'm on the day flight. I end
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: up missing it, which crushed me. That was that was tough.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: You got like no sleep on the flight because I'm
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: sitting here, like, you know, thinking what you know what,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: you know, what all was going on? Um Landed said
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: he had, you know, born at seventh. It's like seven
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: thirty five. I landed like eight and end up getting
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: up there like nine thirty. Traffic and everything and just
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: it was a long a couple of days. But anyway,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: so we had an off day the next day. UM,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: and you know at that point, you know, I can
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: only do so much. So I up, you know, having
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: the off day and and just missing the missing the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: one one game. But no, normally you can, I said,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: you get three days of maternity ly even. But it
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: was a good little ride. Um but I tell and
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: I was like it, maybe I have a blessing in disguise.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Because they waited so long to give her the epidural
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: that my aunt ended up having to like step in
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: and being a little mean, which I'm like, I don't
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: know if I would have could have done that. So
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: you may have been a blessing in the sky. You
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: might not have been as good as an abbey. Yeah,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: so uh, you know, all things work out for a reason.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: So it's good. Do you guys desire to have more kids? Um?
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I would? I think she would to you know, we've talked.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think anytime soon. Um, I think yeah, to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, but I think there's definitely hopefully
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: another one in the in the future. We need to
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: do is get yourself a little calculator or a calendar
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: and figure out Oh yeah, we've I've already talked about
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: it planning in the off season. Yeah. Man, we're gonna
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: do this January, right man, I'm gonna be there. I'll
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: drive you down to the house. I be there for
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: the whole san day. Be like, well, I thought it
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: was gonna be that way, but we're kind of onto
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: this really nice box, so it's gonna be you have
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: to go again. Well. The farther thing is is like,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: and I could have been anywhere else, and I make
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: it on time, Like we happened to just be in
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: the West Coast, happened to be playing in l A.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Just couldn't have been playing Washington or Phillies or New
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: York where I'm an hour or two. You know, I'd
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: been five and a half hour flight. But talk to
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: us about your quote that win viral earlier this year
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: that I think it was popular among a lot about
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: doors been I'll go ahead and say I didn't say that.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: You didn't say that. So where did this come from?
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: So there someone made I guess it was an account.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Let's say the quality real quick. It says I crushed
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: the ball and hunt deer and it ain't deer season?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: Is that like the actual like insta liked graphic. Someone
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: made that about you, the very small print like sack
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: sports or something. Well, no, so it says Austin Riley
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: didn't say this something like that. So this account that
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: created this, I know, like it funny, funny quote. Great,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so it says, um, they like to say
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: account made all this stuff. So it says like a
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of random stuff like from players and that, like
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: they you know, I didn't say this, but it's kind
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: of funny. Oh yeah, it says Austin Riley did not
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: say this about his recent hot streak, literally put it in.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: I've had to tell a couple of people that, yeah,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: it's a very small down to saying that now, like
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: you should make that yours. I know, Um, I hadn't,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: but it's it's a it's a it's a hilary I've gotten.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: So when it came out, like all my buddies, like
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: everybody was sending to me, it was good. So did
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: that like introduce a lot of opposing players that would
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: come up and talk to me like, oh, you like
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: deer hunting to I think everyone. I mean really, if
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: you look at my Instagram account, it's it's got It's not. Yeah,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: it's not. Everyone knows. Yes, everyone pretty much knew that
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, being from Mississippi. Though, Oh, you're
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: a big redneck hunter, aren't you. I was like, yeah,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I guess all right, man, I know, I know you
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. But good luck with the
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: family first and foremost appreciate that coratulations on your kid. Think,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of the year, and then
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: one's done. Good luck with the hunt. Appreciate it. I'll
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: keep I'll keep an eye on it. Instagram make sure,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: for sure, So for sure I appreciate you guys have me.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Oh know it's great man, best walk up song in
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: baseball to you. You know I'm saying you have it?
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Stone called Yes, he was talking about how
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any connection to take me out to
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: the ball game. But when I heard the glass shatter
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: for on Steve Austin, I was like, oh man, if
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: I was an imposing patriot, be so intimidated at that moment,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: so real quick on how that came out, so like
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Nelly hot in here has been like my walk up
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: film for like ever since I got into pro ball.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: But everybody on Twitter was like hammering me. I was like,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: you gotta tang, you gotta uh And I think I
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: went through like a little skid where I struggle. I
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm changing it and end up going off
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: after it. So's it's stuck. I love it. And I
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: got to the after one in the World Series w W.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: E sent me like an actual belt. It's my most
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: like price. It says like w W World Series Champs
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: on It's got the Atlanta enbow on its nest. Yeah
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: I be Nelly never sent you like a face band, No,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: I got a huge belt. You who your real friends are,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: right man? Thanks good thanks good m