Latest / Kvetch & Release / AM800 Roundtable with MPP Dowie, Councillor Tonial, & Rino Bortolin
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- 0:09Hey everyone, Good morning John Lidkey filling in for Dan McDonald here on Am
- 0:15eight hundred c k l W. You just heard the smooth stylings of Dan
- 0:20on in the Morning Drive with Lisa Williams. We're doing a bit of a
- 0:24musical chairs round table thing today show swap. It's fun. It's a big
- 0:29day too, with some breaking news being revealed on the Morning Drive by Mayor
- 0:33Dilkins that we're gonna dive right into regarding the H four hub, but first
- 0:37I'm gonna set up the round table right now. I'm so glad to be
- 0:39joined around the table by Winter to come see MPP Andrew Dowie. How you
- 0:44doing, rach On. I'm so always a great day when I get to
- 0:47come home. Oh absolute, I thought you're gonna say, its always greatday
- 0:49when you get to see me one and then swinging a mess, but that's
- 0:53okay. Thank you also have joining me right now Ward three counselor and to
- 0:57come see Rico Tony. How you doing doing very well? Very well?
- 1:00Thank you really appreciate having your time here. And last but not least,
- 1:03former Windsor Ward three counselor and owner of the soon to be opening up Patrella's
- 1:10Italian street food. Reno bortel enjoins me, how you doing, Reno,
- 1:12Good, Good morning, Johan, good morning. Well, as you just
- 1:17heard we were mentioning and if you're listening a bit earlier on, we've got
- 1:21news about the H four hub. That is right this new housing hub.
- 1:26We finally have a location. Mayor Dilkins was on the Morning Drive this morning
- 1:32and he said that seven hundred Wellington was chosen by council to meet the needs
- 1:38of the community. Today we'll actually announce the official site. So it's just
- 1:42off of Wellington in Windsor and it's the site that was reviewed. We looked
- 1:49at over two hundred sites. We asked the community and the public, you
- 1:52know, who had property or who wanted to identify sites within two kilometers of
- 1:56the downtown. Let us know what you think would work for what we're trying
- 1:59to do. And that's the permanent home for the H four which is currently
- 2:01at water World. And we received a lot of different submissions and then we
- 2:07narrowed it down to four. It went to City Council and ultimately, with
- 2:10some back and forth, city Council chose this property at seven hundred Wellington seven
- 2:16hundred Wellington. There is the location. Mary Dilkin says that this location is
- 2:21the best to meet the growing needs of our community. When you look at
- 2:24the size and the location, it's really best equipped to meet the growing needs
- 2:29of our community. And what we're talking about here is relocating some of the
- 2:35supports and the homeless services in our community to one site and having sixty four
- 2:42one bedroom sort of permanent support of transitional housing units built at that site with
- 2:47the supports around it, and working with partners. We have been working pretty
- 2:52heavily behind the scenes to align with a lot of the partners that all of
- 2:55whom you know, that deliver services to this population that would be better served
- 3:00if we all work together on one site. And I really think we've got
- 3:04a good plan. And Mary Dolgan says that at this point the timeline is
- 3:08not certain and he expects it to be a fifty million dollar project, but
- 3:12says it's going to require coordination with upper levels of government. Timeline. We
- 3:17need to all align federal and provincial funding to get it out of the ground.
- 3:21It's probably a fifty million dollar project. So we've got our part ready
- 3:24to go in terms of budget and land acquisition. So we'll work very diligently
- 3:29and we have behind the scenes, so we will try and get this out
- 3:32of the ground as soon as possible. So let's start things off here the
- 3:38conversation. Andrew, I'll bring your voice in as the MPP for Windsor to
- 3:42come see. Obviously we're hearing from the mayor that we're going to be needing
- 3:44to see some funding flowing down from upper levels of government. And as the
- 3:49representative of one of our upper levels of government sitting around the table right now,
- 3:52what's your perspective, How is this relationship going to work? What do
- 3:54you see as how this unfolds? Oh? Absolutely, the province of Ontarious
- 4:00social supports and healthcare services and this is no different. So the City Council,
- 4:06to its credit, has been working on these for a long long time
- 4:11and has brought forward some really some a great package and I've taken the opportunity
- 4:15already to bring that forward to the different ministry officials and they're pretty encouraged by
- 4:19what they see. I think all that's left now is the business case.
- 4:23What are the specifics. The concept is something that I think is very attractive.
- 4:28Now it's a matter of how will the operations go, what is the
- 4:31actual ask of the province in terms of the funding, what services would be
- 4:36delivered, and then trying to put together that envelope of where you know where
- 4:42the different pockets of funding would come from. And not everything is in one
- 4:45unified ministry, as I learned day in and day out, so we have
- 4:48to figure out the back end of it. But no, I think it's
- 4:51an attractive project for the community, and I say that where we need it.
- 4:57We need supports for mental health. It's the top priority for the Ontario
- 5:01Health Team, which is the call it the cornating body for all of our
- 5:05local healthcare service providers. But also it's when we hear timetime again as the
- 5:11top issue for the residents of Ontario. I've been on the budget committee for
- 5:15two years now and I've heard it repeatedly. So the investments are needed and
- 5:20I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next. Rena, I'll bring you in
- 5:25on this one just to start things off. We're gonna have to take a
- 5:28quick break, but I want to get your perspective right off the bat.
- 5:30Obviously, you know you were word three counselor. This is located about as
- 5:34much as in ward three as possible without it going over the line. I
- 5:38feel like it's like price's right rules almost right now. Quite frankly, we
- 5:43know that they looked at two hundred different properties and four specific expression expressions of
- 5:47interest. Are you surprised by where the location was chosen knowing what was available
- 5:54within the area that was being looked at. No, not at all.
- 5:57This is a property that's been talked about for a while for these types of
- 6:00services and for other medical services in the Core. I think this is a
- 6:04great announcement today. I think the you know, the key here is how
- 6:09fast we can move on it. The H four Center as an entity,
- 6:14you know, was needed yesterday, and the temporary one is doing as much
- 6:18as it can. But there have been issues. It is very difficult because
- 6:25you know, people will talk. I've already heard a couple of comments about
- 6:28this not being sort of downtown or close enough. And we have to get
- 6:31away from this sort of clustering or this sort of over concentration of services.
- 6:38And that's been part of the problem in the Core is that when there are
- 6:41too many services where to the point where the people taking advantage of the services
- 6:46available are actually outnumbering the number of people who work and go to those areas
- 6:51that becomes a problem. And so this is actually a great location and great
- 6:56step forward. I would add to Andrew's comments that we need addictions funding as
- 7:02well, because to go with that mental health. Not to say that everybody
- 7:06that's homeless is experiencing addictions and mental health issues, but it is a trifecta
- 7:12that is very important in sort of moving past all this. So the you
- 7:16know, I think the good the good thing here is that the model of
- 7:21coming together with all the multiple partners makes it very easy for Andrew to sell
- 7:27this at the provincial level. This is not something that you know, we're
- 7:30coming out of nowhere. We've been doing this, we've been piloting it for
- 7:33a few years. The partners are all on board, The partners are talking
- 7:36about the successes, and so we need to continue that and actually lead on
- 7:41the issue to show that the funding isn't just a big ask, but it's
- 7:46a big ask with outcomes that are there to actually show both the community and
- 7:50show the province that this is a good move. Rick, hoping you're in
- 7:56really quickly on this one as well. Obviously, homelessness is not an issue
- 7:59that is isolated to just Windsor Or to the downtown core. There's homelessness experience
- 8:03throughout all of our municipalities and towns throughout the region. Here when you look
- 8:09at the fact that we're going to have one big hub like this and we
- 8:11know that there are other services offered throughout the community and the region as a
- 8:15whole, is this a good first step. Yes, I think any anything
- 8:18that we can do to help the social issues. You know, over the
- 8:22twenty years of my last twenty years of policing, I noticed the officers are
- 8:26doing more social occurrence is not criminal occurrences. So I think that you know,
- 8:31the governments all need to work together and find the remedy not a band
- 8:37aid, but an actual remedy to the homelessness, including addiction, including mental
- 8:41health issues. Windsor has a concentration of it because they have the services,
- 8:46So people are going to come from the county to stay there because the services
- 8:50are next to them. Decompsy has been experiencing some homelessness. People have been
- 8:54hanging out in our foyers of banks and things like that. So yes,
- 8:56it is coming to DECOMPSI and it's a it's a problem for everybody. Even
- 9:01though Windsor is building this, it is helping the county with homelessness too.
- 9:07Nobody's isolated from the societal problems that we are, of course facing here.
- 9:11We're gonna take a quick break right now. When we get back on the
- 9:13side, I do want to dive more into the timeline of what we're going
- 9:16to expect here. As we were talking about Reno, you said, you
- 9:20know this was needed to open yesterday years ago. Quite frankly, I always
- 9:24get concerned when I hear a number like fifty million dollars and start to think,
- 9:26like, well, that timeline's got to be at least five years,
- 9:30probably more than that. What does that say about where we're at and where
- 9:33we're going. We'll find out from the round table when we get back.
- 9:35John Lydkey here on AM eight hundred CKLW. I'm joined by Windsor to Comcy
- 9:39MPP, Andrew Dowie, Word three counselor to Comsy Rictonio and Patrella's Italian street
- 9:46food owner and former Windsor Word three councilor, Reno Bordolin. Don't go away,
- 9:50folks, We'll be back right here on AM eight hundred CKLW. After
- 9:52this, Hey everyone, we're back. John Lydkey here on am eight hundred
- 9:56CKLW. It is the round table, joined by Windsor to come, cy
- 10:01MPP, Andrew Dowie to come, Seeward three Councilor, Rictonial and Patrella's Italian
- 10:05street food owner and former Windsor Word three Councilor Reno Bortolin. We're talking about
- 10:09how the City of Windsor has identified the location for the new housing hub.
- 10:13After two hundred properties and four specific expressions of interest by property owners, seven
- 10:18hundred Wellington Avenue has been determined and approved by City Council as a location for
- 10:24the new housing hub following council direction. Administration did initially attempt to negotiate the
- 10:30purchase of this site, but was unsuccessful and will be using their powers of
- 10:35exp creation expropriation to wrestle it away from the property owner. We were just
- 10:41going to talk about the timeline of these things, but I do want to
- 10:43actually go into this conversation right now about this idea that the city went forward
- 10:48and asked people like, hey, do you want to be involved in this?
- 10:50Would you be interested in potentially selling your land to US went into negotiations
- 10:54with four of them and obviously weren't able to break through with any of those
- 10:56four, and now they're using the the strong reach of the law to take
- 11:03it away from them. Reno, you were just expressing some thoughts about your
- 11:07opposition to expropriation. Why, well, I generally, I generally am not
- 11:13a fan of expropriation. Of forcing someone to hand over their land is to
- 11:16me a last last ditch effort. I mean, I'm hoping and obviously they've
- 11:24done their diligence as far as having you know, wanting to negotiate and having
- 11:28to get to this point. I think it's a good sign that the city
- 11:31is serious and that if they're coming out announcing this, that they are moving
- 11:35ahead and they will be you know, buying the property. So I think
- 11:39from that side of it, going to your timeline comment, this will move
- 11:43as quick as possible. Obviously there will be legal issues with an exporporation.
- 11:48Hopefully throughout the process they can come to an agreement. That's sometimes what happens
- 11:54once you start expropriation. People say okay, okay, let's just settle on
- 11:56a price. But it will take a couple of years to put everything together.
- 12:03I think in that time though, the business case can and should be
- 12:05made to be presenting to the various ministries that will be being asked to fund
- 12:11this. If we're looking at capital expenses, we'll probably be asking the federal
- 12:16government for funding as well, so it'll take the time to get it set
- 12:20up. You know, your five year timeline that you mentioned is probably realistic.
- 12:26Ideally we see something shorter in the three year timeline where by the time
- 12:30all the legal issues are done, there's shovels in the ground immediately. But
- 12:35you know, the idea of excorporating is in my mind, it just shows
- 12:41how serious the city is on this and that it's a good thing that we're
- 12:45moving forward on this. Again, I would prefer it to be something where
- 12:48the landowner was willing a willing partner in it. But to me, this
- 12:54is a worthwhile project to be moving ahead on, absolutely, and we know
- 12:58it's necessary. Andrew will bring your voice in on this. You know,
- 13:01we were talking about what kind of services need to be offered and how that's
- 13:03not just something that's going to be you know, shoved down from the province
- 13:07to the city to deal with. It's got to be an inclusive process where
- 13:11both parties are coming together and recognizing this as what's needed. How does that
- 13:13actually work though, for like the average lay person listening, Well, there's
- 13:18a belief system why that the local communities know what's best for them. The
- 13:22demands are different from place to place. You'll see different sets of data on
- 13:28different types of behaviors. For example, at different centers these in the East
- 13:35there are a lot i'll call it more cases of addiction on record than in
- 13:39the West. Who knows why that is. But ultimately that we see some
- 13:43regional variations. So with that, it's important that we have some degree of
- 13:50coordination here. And so I mentioned earlier the Ontario Health Team, something that's
- 13:52relatively new. It used to be done through the Local Health Integration Network.
- 13:56Really the goal is always to have everybody talk to one another and decide who
- 14:01monks themselves is best suited to lead a certain portfolio. But instead of having
- 14:07kind of the transition for that is, whereas the Local Health Integration Network was
- 14:13its own entity, now the Ontario Health Team is really more of a voluntary
- 14:18sort of organization. It's got some staff, but predominantly the heads of the
- 14:22organizations decide amongst themselves who will be the chair. We have two great co
- 14:26chairs, Kristen Kennedy and Nancy Brockenshire, who are leading that. They among
- 14:33the fifty something local healthcare providers, they decide what their collective priorities are and
- 14:39who will take charge of a given service. And so we are still someone
- 14:46in the infancy of that. There's still some time to that will pass before
- 14:50we'll have everything figured out. Maybe we'll never have everything figured out, but
- 14:54we're certainly trying, and we'll get a better sense of who will operate the
- 14:58services, what's the best provider, what's the best service delivererty model? And
- 15:01this will change from place to place, So it's it's just dependent on the
- 15:05data, what you see on the ground, and with that you can only
- 15:11only from there will you know where to go next. And sorry, John,
- 15:15if I can just add to that, if you think about what you
- 15:16know, like I hate to use this term about sort of the chain of
- 15:20custody. Let's say, if so or so somebody that comes into the to
- 15:24the to the center. Sometimes they're brought it. They're brought there either by
- 15:28police or suggested to go there. They have already worked and touched the homeless
- 15:33shelters. They are then looking at health services, so the health services and
- 15:39the health ministries are involved. They may be looking for addictions treatments, which
- 15:43is another subsect of the health sector. But then they're also moving into supportive
- 15:46housing then potentially long term housing or housing with supports, which is joy suck
- 15:50locally at family services it does that, so that's a different ministry housing,
- 15:56permanent housing becomes a different ministry again, so you can see how it's not
- 16:02just complicated. The coordination and the ask for funding is not simply we need
- 16:07ten dollars, we need we need ten dollars split eight different ways, and
- 16:10this is how we need to do it. So and from our end of
- 16:14it, the partners have been fantastic. I mean I've always had a great
- 16:17working relationship with those social agencies, but now more than ever they see the
- 16:21coordination working. And Rick, I'll come to you lastly on this. You
- 16:25know, when we talk about what the actual social impacts of not doing this
- 16:30would be, you know, we see the spill on effects. We know
- 16:33that when people aren't housed that we see greater instances of addiction, of needs
- 16:37for mental health, supports of needs for greater community intervention. You're a retired
- 16:41opp staff sergeant, so you know crime is your beat where you come from.
- 16:45What happens if we don't do this, it's definitely a spin off of
- 16:49to crime. We're going to have more crime. There's a necessity. I
- 16:55always say crime are three things. Stupidity, you know, kids just doing
- 16:57the wrong thing, Opportunity, unity you leave out something, or necessity you
- 17:03know what I mean. And we could teach the first two, but the
- 17:04third one is a social problem. They're doing it out of necessity, not
- 17:08because they want to steal your property. They need money for their thing.
- 17:12So we need to fix as I said earlier, if we can work on
- 17:15the social issues, and maybe the province needs to spearhead a committee because it
- 17:21sounds like every city has this problem. Big city has this problem. Therefore
- 17:25it can't be something we delay and delay and delay. Maybe it's something we
- 17:29need to spear ahead and move this faster than anything else. You or what
- 17:32I'm saying, because everybody's experiencing it has so much spin off to our community
- 17:37as in crime and other social issues. We want these people healthy, back
- 17:41in our community and being proproductive and I'm sure they want to be too.
- 17:45That's the goal that everyone has around the table. There's no doubt about that.
- 17:48We got to take a break right now. We've got the nine to
- 17:51thirty Information Update coming up next and then after that we're going to get back
- 17:53into the round table with Andrew Dowie, Ricktonio and Reno Bordel and don't go
- 17:57anywhere, folks. John Lydkey here on a I'm eight hundred CKLW. We're
- 18:00back after this. Hey, folks, good morning. We're back on the
- 18:04Daan McDonald show. John lid Keith filling in today nine thirty five. Hope
- 18:08you are all doing well. We're keeping our roundtable going Windsor to come see
- 18:12MPP. Andrew Dowie joins me, as does to come see Ward three counselor
- 18:18and retired opp staff sergeant Rick Tonial and Patrell's Italian street food owner soon to
- 18:22open, and former Windsor Ward three councilor Reno Bordolin joins us. Right now,
- 18:27we had some news out of the province with a new announcement of a
- 18:33province wide cell phone ban. Ontario Education Minister Stephen lecche announced the strict crackdown
- 18:40on devices for the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five school year forbidding them
- 18:45in use, saying it's about focusing during instructional time. Now, this is
- 18:49already the rule at the Greater Essex County District School Board and the Windsor Essex
- 18:53Catholic District school Board, so it's gonna be status quo for the most part
- 18:57here in terms of how we operate. But there is a little bit more
- 19:00teeth to this policy as well as the fact that it is now uniform across
- 19:06the entire province. Apt for us to allow for when comes the MPP Andrew
- 19:11Dowie to come in to discuss first about this. As you're with the government
- 19:14that's introduced this, I don't think you'd be surprised to hear that the local
- 19:18president of the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario called this a distraction, said that
- 19:23this is just simply trying to change the channel on the real issue, which
- 19:27is the need for more funding. You know, Andrew, I wasn't surprised
- 19:30to see that the ETFO would come out immediately knee jerk with a criticism of
- 19:37it. What I do find really interesting though, is the fact that they're
- 19:38criticizing it and saying it's a distraction when we already do have this in place,
- 19:42but it's being expanded across the province. It's not a distraction if it's
- 19:45going to places that it's never been before. Oh exactly. You know what,
- 19:52it's always a good day when the policy's not criticized, right, And
- 19:56that's the case here. This is something that even I was asked to have
- 20:02a petition in my office on this couple of months ago, and so people
- 20:07come into my office and they'll they'll they'll look at and say what is this
- 20:10and give a description. And I had the most signatures on that petition out
- 20:15of anything that I've had before. So there's a sense from parents that there
- 20:21are distractions in the classroom. We you know, say, I'd say we
- 20:26collectively those of my generation did not have cell phones in the class. Cell
- 20:30phones existed, but they weren't as prevalent, and if parents needed to reach
- 20:33us, they would call the principal's office. So it hasn't been too long
- 20:37ago that we had a system where you didn't have a cell phone in the
- 20:41classroom and that there was still an effective way for parents to reach their kids.
- 20:48I mean, the rule here is truly just no cell phones in class.
- 20:51It doesn't mean to give them up, it means they just have to
- 20:53be out of sight. We've seen four school boards I think you mentioned this
- 20:59yesterday on that they're they're suing the social media giants for bringing forward these distractions
- 21:04and they're being used in the classrooms. So I guess I'm disheartened a bit
- 21:08to see an inconsistency between the boards and the employees of the boards on how
- 21:14important the distractions of social media are. I am of the mind that ultimately
- 21:22I'm on the phone all the time. I don't know what I would do
- 21:23in the legislature without having technology, because I want to be productive. I
- 21:27understand very much that cell phones can be a tool, but at the end
- 21:33of the day, if it's if the tool is not the right tool to
- 21:36learn, if there's a lesson being delivered and there isn't a need for the
- 21:41tool, then the tool should be put away for until such a time as
- 21:45it's needed, and an educator has a discretion to allow the tool to be
- 21:49used when it's appropriate to use it. So I'm pretty heartened by this and
- 21:55I also would tie it into what I feedback I've heard from students in the
- 21:59last couple of years. Vaping was number one. That was also part of
- 22:03the challenge, But cyber bullying had come has come up multiple times, and
- 22:07that the prevalence of it and the speed of it within the classroom was a
- 22:15big chunk of the concern that was put forward. So if no one's looking
- 22:19at their phone and no one's able to type into their phone and engage in
- 22:23that cyber bullying in the classroom, then it's not going to stop it from
- 22:27happening, but it certainly going to reduce its frequency, and at least it's
- 22:30a path to a better, better start ahead. And so I unless there's
- 22:37some sort of reduction in the amount of education being offered because of this removal
- 22:42of the cell phones, I don't see how this could be anything but a
- 22:47positive going forward. You know, I feel like I'm an old man right
- 22:51now yelling at the clouds on a front porch because when I was a kid,
- 22:53I had a cell phone in grade eleven, grade twelve. It was
- 22:56pretty well at paperweight back then. It could play brick breaker and snake for
- 23:00the most part, and God blessed that there wasn't social media, because I
- 23:03don't know what it would have been like to have been a kid with social
- 23:04media the way that exists today. But I'm from a generation where the teacher
- 23:08was like, you can't pass notes in class, you can't keep a calculator
- 23:14in your pocket because you're never going to actually just always have one. It
- 23:18just seems to me like things got a lot more lax inside schools since I
- 23:22graduated a high school, it seems. And I get technology changes, Rick,
- 23:26when you hear about this one here and the change, are you on
- 23:30board? Yeah? I don't think phones need to be in our schools.
- 23:36My wife's a retired teacher. A lot of my friends are retired teachers,
- 23:38and they're there to teach, not discipline. A cell phone not discipline these
- 23:42social issues. They want to teach the ABC's and one two threes, and
- 23:47that's what they should for. As Andrew indicated, if it's a tool to
- 23:51help the kids learn, yeah, the teachers could acknowledge, okay, time
- 23:53take your phone out to look up something, that kind of thing. There's
- 23:56a learning process of how to use a phone to all that kind of stuff.
- 24:00But I don't think They're a total distraction. If I had them in
- 24:03the phone in school, I would just be on my phone the whole time.
- 24:06We would not be paying it. I had enough trouble discipline in myself
- 24:10to pay attention in school. If I had a phone, I would be
- 24:12a lost cause for sure. I would never have graduated to tell youth.
- 24:15Honestly, I'd be watching the squirrels all day long out the window. Like
- 24:18I said, But there's also a social issue with that school brings. And
- 24:23my wife was a JK teacher, and she says it all the time.
- 24:26You teach structure, you teach how to communicate with each other. You talk,
- 24:29I listen, vice versa. That kind of thing. With cell phones,
- 24:32we've lost that. So do we want to continue that in a school
- 24:34setting now where kids don't even socialize at recess anymore. At lunch time,
- 24:38they're not playing with a ball, they're playing with a phone, you know,
- 24:41those kind of things. I think it's a total distraction to have a
- 24:45phone. On the emergency side, I was called down the office many times
- 24:48for injuries or being a bad person, I guess, or doing the wrong
- 24:53things. And my parents were found every time, and they were able to
- 24:56come and pick me up on an old landline phone calling the bank where my
- 25:00mom worked at. So it's possible for emergencies to take care of people.
- 25:06And I don't think cell phone should be in a school at all. Don't
- 25:08even bring them. You don't need them at school at all. You know,
- 25:11I don't like the term helicopter parent. I think it does too much
- 25:15negativity with it. But I think there is a sense of parents saying like,
- 25:18look, I want my kid to have a phone at all times.
- 25:21That way I'm able to always be in contact with them. But again,
- 25:23flip side to what you just said, the office still works. There's still
- 25:26a secretary who sits at the front desk who can get in touch with you
- 25:30over the PA system, John Contna, the principal's office immediately place. It
- 25:36must be that many times. It must be difficult. You know. I
- 25:40know you've got three kids, right, so the issue of cell phone usage
- 25:44must come up, and stuff like how do you, as a parent,
- 25:47you know, deal with this dichotomy of wanting to reach out to them but
- 25:52also recognizing like these probably aren't the best things in a class, or if
- 25:56I'm putting words in your mouth, tell me that I'm wrong and let us
- 25:57know what you think. Well, we never My kids didn't have cell phones
- 26:03until high school and they didn't have service until they could pay for it.
- 26:07So if they had free Wi Fi places, fine, but they were never.
- 26:10We never paid for sell service. There was just no issue. They
- 26:14walked to school. They walked to high school and grade school. There's you
- 26:17know, the issues are overblown when it comes you still got them. Well,
- 26:22they have their own cell phones now, the older ones, they're still
- 26:25around. They're not like wandering still right exactly? Okay. I mean they
- 26:26found their way home and all emergencies they were able to get in touch with
- 26:30us. I think the issue here though, is that, like I'll agree
- 26:34on all that's been said about the importance of getting off your phone to teach,
- 26:40I will go back two steps and think of why is the government doing
- 26:42this now? And I will agree with the unions that I don't often agree
- 26:47with that this is a distraction. In my opinion, we had a bill
- 26:52in twenty nineteen that did the exact same thing. It didn't have the teeth.
- 26:56We also vaping. They came out and just said it's but it's illegal
- 26:59to ape on any school property because it's illegal. It's actually against the law
- 27:03except if you're eighteen, which is very few people that go to high school.
- 27:08So these are odd issues to come up, and then to spend thirty
- 27:14million dollars on the now we're going to enforce these issues stronger. It's sort
- 27:21of it's sort of tough to swallow when you look at you know, spec
- 27:23ed classrooms being underfunded and woefully a need of funding, and we're spending thirty
- 27:29million dollars to follow up on cell phones in the classroom, especially when this
- 27:33is the same government that's been pushing a huge amount of interactive in online learning
- 27:40and a lot of teachers have integrated cell phones and devices as part of their
- 27:44classroom work and using them to do online work. So it's it's it's something
- 27:52we can all agree on. I think, you know, to Rick's point,
- 27:55I think if you polled ten parents, nine out of ten parents would
- 27:59say, yeah, we need to control cell phones. So this looks good
- 28:02from the outside, but there's been restrictions in place. That was a very
- 28:07similar bill by this exact same government in twenty nineteen. It didn't have quite
- 28:11the teeth that this one does. You just needed to moderate that and work
- 28:17with the local boards to make sure that the teeth and that it was being
- 28:19dealt with better. It's still going to be up to that teacher. If
- 28:22a teacher doesn't care and doesn't care that everybody's on on their cell phone in
- 28:26that classroom, nothing will really change. So at the end of the day,
- 28:30it really does come down to the fact that these are things that local
- 28:33boards, local teachers, local schools are technically making those decisions based on their
- 28:38actions, and so the funding of thirty million dollars, in my opinion,
- 28:42could have been much better spent on spec ed classrooms that are woefully underfunded right
- 28:48now. So we are running short on time. But I have to give
- 28:52Andrew an opportunity to respond to that. So I've got some good news.
- 28:55It's not thirty million dollars being vest It's only seventeen and a half. So
- 28:57the raining twelve and a half that you're contemplating, Okay, take seventeen and
- 29:03a half in spec ed class YEAD. So the seventeen and a half because
- 29:06Wrap Round supports for student mental health to deal with addictions and difficulties, partnering
- 29:10with school mental health on TARO to develop problems by webmars for parents and separate
- 29:14products for teachers, and funding for parent involvement committees run local awareness and prevention
- 29:18campaigns. Spec ED has increased in funding for especially for our local boards consistently
- 29:25throughout the last number of years, and our government will continue to fund special
- 29:30education. Thank you for that clarification. Much appreciated. There, we're gonna
- 29:37take a quick break right now. We've still got a bit more of the
- 29:38roundtable to get to, so don't go anywhere. We'll be back with Andrew
- 29:41Dowie, Rick Tonial and Reno Bortlin right after the break. John Lidkey here
- 29:45on AM eight hundred. Hey folks, we're back. John Lidkey here filling
- 29:48in for Dan McDonald on AM eight hundred c k LW. It is nine
- 29:55to fifty one. I hope you're all having a great start to the day.
- 29:56I know, I am. It's because it is a round I'm joined
- 30:00by Windsor Tecomcy MPP, Andrew Dowie Ward three to Comcy counselor and retired OPP
- 30:06staff sergeant, Rick Tonial and Patrella's Italian street food owner and former Windsor Ward
- 30:11three councilor Reno Bordolin joins me right now on the round table. We've been
- 30:15having a lot of fun talking about the H four hub location having been chosen,
- 30:21also discussing the ban on cell phones in school classrooms, which will be
- 30:26starting this Stember. And it's amazing how quickly the round table goes by,
- 30:32sometimes because we have plans for like four or five topics and then we only
- 30:34actually get to two of them. But one that we always do get to
- 30:37is our plugged in segment, where we allow everyone around the table to shout
- 30:41out something that they think needs some attention in their community or in their own
- 30:47lives. Rick, what needs some attention? What needs a spotlight? Thank
- 30:51you very much. The town of Dacompsy is starting a new initiative in the
- 30:55Stinklaer Beach Community Center next to Saint Andre's School, will be starting the Senior
- 31:00Active Living Center. It's going to be starting on May thirteenth and it's going
- 31:04to be Monday to Friday. Full gamut of senior programming, yoga's, crafts,
- 31:08meditation, cooking, everything you could think of for seniors is now going
- 31:14to be into Compsy. We've partnered with the Community Support Center of Essa's County
- 31:18over in Puce there, they've been doing it for thirty something years, so
- 31:22we partnered with them. They're bringing all their services that we currently provide.
- 31:26I work there at Meals and Wheels also, and we're going to bring that
- 31:29servicing over into the COMPCY. Residents can register to be a member of the
- 31:33Senior Active Living Center. They can attend the Sinklair Beach Community Center on May
- 31:41eighth to tenth from eleven am to one pm to register for all the programming.
- 31:45So looking forward to it. We're going to have so much more programming
- 31:49available for our seniors RT into COMPS. That's what makes a community a liverble
- 31:53place is having amenities and services that are available for the constituents. We'll keep
- 31:57going right around the table, Reno, what needs to be shouted out,
- 32:01plugged in, spotlighted well, as you've alluded to in describing my new venture.
- 32:07So we're opening Petrella's Italian street food sandwich shop in the next couple of
- 32:13weeks. I know we've pushed this back, so we're doing probably a soft
- 32:16quiet opening next week and then expect a sort of official opening on the week
- 32:22of the fourteenth. But we've been really excited to be in the neighborhood of
- 32:25Ford City. Lots going on in that neighborhood. So one of the events
- 32:30that's coming up is Sunday, May twenty sixth is the Ford City Flea Market.
- 32:34It's in the thousand block of Drewllard from ten to four that day.
- 32:38So if you hadn't had a chance to check out all the great things happening
- 32:42in Ford City, this is a great opportunity to do so. Lots of
- 32:45great shops, new businesses, sandwich shop, barbecue shop, coney dog,
- 32:51so lots going on in Ford City. We're excited to be part of that
- 32:53neighborhood. So look for the opening of Patrella's in the next couple of weeks.
- 32:58If you have a chance to follow us on Instagram and on Facebook on
- 33:01our socials, absolutely I'm excited to try it out and last but not least,
- 33:07wins to come see MPP Andrew Dowie. What do people need to know
- 33:09about? Well, you know what the season is now upon us for the
- 33:15Veterans ceremonies. We have about just over a dozen that happened throughout the year
- 33:20and they're put on by the winter. Veterans Memorial Services Committee, and so
- 33:24it's one of the points of pride for our community. Truly, we have
- 33:28some phenomenal services that commemorate those that serve in the different battles. So the
- 33:32first one of the season is happening this coming Sunday, May fifth, at
- 33:37two o'clock. It's commemorating the Battle of the Atlantic and it'll be hosted at
- 33:42Dieppe Park. So that's right across the street from the Saint Clair College Center
- 33:45for the Arts. So the public is welcome to be there. They're very
- 33:51informative, you learn about why the battles had existed, you get to meet
- 33:55veterans of the battles, and truly an opportuny to show our respect for those
- 34:00that served for us and to give us the great country that we have today.
- 34:05Absolutely incredibly important to not remember who fought for the freedoms that we have
- 34:09and that we're able to enjoy here on a daily basis. Hey, I
- 34:13want to give a big thanks to all of you for joining me today on
- 34:15the roundtable. I know that none of you were expecting to sit around the
- 34:17table with me today, so and it's a bit of a swing and a
- 34:21miss for you guys. But we got through it. It was an hour.
- 34:22It's all good. Winsord to Comesy MPP Andrew Dowie to come see Ward
- 34:27three councilor Ricktonio and Patrella's Italian street food owner Reno Bortolin. Thank you so
- 34:32much for all of your time, gentlemen. We're gonna take a quick break
- 34:37right now. When we get back on the other side, we've got the
- 34:39ten o'clock news coming up next, and then we're going to dive back into
- 34:43this conversation about the H four Homelessness and Housing Hub location being chosen over on
- 34:50Wellington just in Ward three as close as possible to Ward two as possible.
- 34:55We'll be talking with the executive director of Street Help about that to find out
- 35:00out what they think that this is going to be able to do for those
- 35:02who need help in our community. So don't go anywhere. John Lidkey here
- 35:06on AM eight hundred Cklwe are back right after this